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annbourbon · 6 months

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Mystic Messenger Timeline (Explained)

I'll be obviously skipping a lot of stuff in between, but this is just to make things clear. It's not the way you're supposed to play, just the timeline.

⚠️ Contains Spoilers ⚠️

⚠️⚠️ Spoilers ahead ⚠️⚠️

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First Rika Behind the Story (DLC)

Then I'll start counting as Year 1, the events that lead to the RFA and Mint Eye foundation.

Year 1:

V and Rika know each other

They meet Saeyoung

Saeyoung leaves

Rika kills the Twins's mom

Rika gets engaged to V

Mika and Rika (Mina) create 1st draft of Mint Eye

V buys the department

*on that note, seems that there are 4 cameras but Saeyoung only knows of one*

**This also implies that Saeran was abused as soon as V and Saeyoung took their eyes off of him since Rika used Saeran as model to defeat Saeyoung's skills as a hacker.

***What happens because neither Saeyoung nor V know anything about Saeran whenever they reunite for RFA parties and their engagement? Why no one asked anything?

Year 2:

Rika meets Jumin

RFA begins (yes, it was Mint Eye first, and the reason why the name was Magenta first. Mika?)

RFA 1st party is held

Jaehee joins RFA

Rika kills Sally

RFA 2nd party is held

According to V and Saeyoung this is where the hacker starts attacking the RFA (first time)

Rika blinds V

Saeyoung installed the Special System. AKA: The Bomb

Plot holes: Where's Mika? Why they don't notice there's another person living there? It's not that easy to hide your presence 💀

But according to V, he knew about Mika. It's at least implied.

10. According to several chats during Yoosung route, they barely paid attention to V being blinded. This of course included Zen, Yoosung, and Jumin (who is worried and suspects something but doesn't intervene despite V having severe corneal damage from external trauma)

11. There's a point where Jumin admits barely seeing Rika after the 2nd party. Meeting with her and V for the last time 3 months before her death. Yoosung Route. Day 9. Chat room 7AM called V's eyes.

*At the same time, there's a line, I forgot where exactly, that says that both, Rika and V called off their engagement at some point. They don't say anything about coming back together after that. wtf!?*

12. "Rika commits suicide"

Another Story

1 month after her death, prologue.

Five months later

*means 4 months after they break up their engagement? Assuming they did not break up before but because of Rika behavior blinding him. Which kind of solves the plot holes from Year 1 setting Mika on the apartment and V not fully knowing but suspecting, although it would be impossible or almost impossible without his eyes do something about it. Especially since his blindness is recent. If you need to understand a bit more about blindness watch my post on Rika killing Sally. It may be a dog, unlike V lol but it's still enough information to set up the rest of the story.

Anyways, let's go back to our timeline no?

Bad ending prologue #1 (Casual & Deep) and #2 (Another) are part of the same story and unlikely that it is set into an *alternative route* like some people like to say. Bad ending prologues even from Another Story seem to fit almost too perfectly when you think about it, but only if you agree to go with Unknown after rejecting him several times.

Because it would fit into the idea that the MC's were captured by the cult and discarded after a while (or put to work under Mint Eye. But also because according to the opening on the Casual and Deep, it would mean that Saeran's been watching you, so does Saeyoung.)

As I said before, the other MC's are either dead or anything but MIA (whatever that means for Mint Eye?) and this one, the brunette, is selected and it's the only one who survives and passed the whole trial. Not at first but it doesn't matter. This MC is not dead. The others are. You think "The others" are just the player with different image? I've got news for you, each one of this has a number~ check this post ^^

Either you become the assistant of Unknown with that bad ending which is an option available for every prologue or you enter Day 1 to Day 4 of Another Story and play throughout to reach:

Day 6 and Day 10 from Ray/Saeran Route which are part of the same ending. They're not a different ending. Both however lead to the Casual Route, Day 1 (after the prologue)

Which means, if you get the bad ending in the prologue of Casual/Deep you'll be going back to Mint Eye. Yes. It's not supposed to be your first rodeo there. And if you have a Bad Ending on Mint Eye, you're brainwashed andd set on Casual/Deep (You're supposed to be an spy, but who do you work for? Are you a victim or a villainess? that's another story 😜)

My theory?

*This is where I'm still stuck, so I'll be fixing major plots here and there and editing this same post over and over until I get it right. Please bear with me 😭*

Rika DLC > 1st party > Rika gets engaged > Saeyoung leaves > Rika kills Sally > Rika kills Saeran's mom > Rika starts torturing Saeran > Mint Eye begins > 2nd party > Hacker attack > Bomb is installed > Rika blinds V > Rika dies > Another Story (prologue) > Another Story (Day 1 to 4) > Another Story (Day 6 & 10, bad relationship both of them) obviously with what causes these bad endings > Casual Route (with bad endings included) > Deep Story (with bad endings included) > Secret Endings (except for V dying, we'll get there) > Another Story again but V route happens first (no happy or normal ending) and then something weird happens:

And this part if I'm being honest, I have no idea but I'm fixing it cause my theory is that

V and Saeran's route become so intertwined that is almost impossible to know what happened.

The bomb on Mint Eye? Saeran? Although it is suggesting in the bad endings that he died, we never saw that to happen.

V dying in the secret endings?

Saeran burn?

Seven does mention a couple of numbers, associated with the other MCs, somewhere in the game. Unfortunately I can't remember if it's on a call or a chat so I'm going back all over again because I was so shocked at the time I was unable to take a screenshot.

Truth to be said I can't fully find the order rn but! I will, I definitely will. I need time. I mean, more time. I've been working on this for 6 to 7 years now, I'm posting this because it's so big I can't keep it to myself and I'm freaking out here. So I'll be editing this in the future. As many of my other posts. Sorry lol

Ironically, Saeran's AE would be indeed the Final Ending.

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kusukixcrystal · 10 months

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Zen & Rika are Trapped in The MM World Part 1

I’m splitting this into 2 parts because it would just be too long. This is sort of a continuation of my “Zen is A Prince From Grass” theory and “Saeran/Ray created Another Story” posts. In one of them, I suggested the possibility that Zen is a bunny prince who is trapped in the Mystic Messenger world. In the other, I do talk about Saeran, but I added a follow-up delving into Rika, Saeyoung, and V and how Rika is trapped in the MM world, too.

In this post, I will focus mainly on establishing background information.

Pocket Universes/Dimensions

First, I have to establish that I believe that the world of MM is a pocket universe. Basically, it's a new universe completely different from a real universe. For example, characters from Nameless and Dandelion all live in a real universe. Dandelion is where the term ‘pocket universe’ first comes up in the franchise, and refers to a new universe created by The Wizard by using a large amount of his power. He did this because he wanted to be with a woman named Heejung, but couldn’t descend to Earth because he couldn’t leave his dimension. So, he created a pocket universe where he can enter it and brought Heejung along.

So, why do I think MM is a pocket universe? Well, basically pocket universes don’t operate under the same rules as a real universe. See the example I gave above with The Wizard and Heejung. In a real universe, The Wizard couldn’t physically be in her presence. In this pocket universe, it's different. Because he made it and probably established the laws of how this universe works, he physically can be with Heejung.

In my previous posts, I mention off-handedly how the MM world is ‘fabricated’ or ‘fake’. This is what I mean. It's not a ‘real universe’ but a ‘pocket universe’, operating under different rules and created by wizards.

I hope that makes sense. Now let’s get into all the signs of why MM seems to be a pocket universe.

These signs mostly manifest as the 4th wall breaks or references we see throughout the whole game. It’s not just a “hehe haha this is a videogame” thing from Cheritz. It's diegetic. No, it’s the characters literally realizing that they are living in a pocket universe. As for the references, I will go deeper into their relevance. First I will list the most relevant of these instances, and then break down why it's all important in part 2.

I won’t list all examples of 4th wall breaks, but here are some big examples:

1. Casual Story Common Route Bad-ending (4th Wall Break)

I discussed this ending extensively in another post, so I won’t get into too much detail. Basically, this ending shows how the RFA members might be machines, following an algorithm/script, and being controlled by V and Saeyoung. Yoosung says that the messenger is fake and that their only purpose is to hold the RFA parties. I also talked about how I think that V and Saeyoung are wizards who created this pocket universe.

Just a tiny addition to this point is that Jaehee breaks the 4th wall in this ending as well. After Zen and Jaehee visit Yoosung, worried about him after he started raving about how they are machines. In the screenshot above, at first, Jaehee treated Yoosung like he was delusional, and sent him to get a mental health examination. Despite saying this, her last 3 messages indicate her true thoughts. She believes him and chastises the MC/player for getting this ending. You only get this bad ending if you either don’t participate in enough chats or don’t get enough hearts to get into a character route. Jaehee is directly telling the MC/player to choose a route next time. Some people can get this ending if they try to balance getting hearts with characters, too. That’s actually how I got this ending originally because I was indecisive and kinda wanted to see what would happen.

2. Another Story Common Route Bad-ending (4th Wall Break)

I went into detail about this one in my Saeran/Ray made Another Story post. In this ending, Saeran says that the RFA are AIs. In the surface story, this turns out to be a lie. Here in this bad ending, though, Ray talks about the RFA as if they actually are AI, even going as far as to mention Saeyoung (’that redhead’), asking if we played ‘his version’. I speculated that what he means by this is the Casual and Deep stories.

3. Dandelion and Nameless (References)

The first screenshot is from day 3 of the Casual story common route, the next 2 are from the April Fool’s DLC.

Zen is dressed up as Jisoo from Dandelion in the first ss, which is apparently a play that is being adapted from a book. The other reference to Dandelion is in the 2nd ss, an animal hospital named Dandelion is mentioned by Jumin and Jaehee. The characters from that game were part cat/rabbits, so this ref goes deeper than just a name drop.

Nameless: The One Thing You Must Recall is referenced too. Tei’s Tea Leaf is one of the plays Zen starred in. This is a reference to Tei from Nameless, Cheritz’s game before this. (I don’t know where this is mentioned in the game). Another example is in the last screenshot, the password that Jaehee mentions is from the title of the game. There is also a big reference to Nameless in Deep Story that another Tumblr user named smol-grey-tea has brought to my attention.

The story that Jumin reads to MC directly references Nameless’ backstory, which is revealed in the true route in secret ending 2. Nameless is the character pictured above as ‘???’ and he is a stuffed bear. The scene that Jumin reads is when Eri’s grandfather buys Nameless for Eri. The person who gave this book to Jumin is Rika. I will talk about the significance of this later.

EDIT: Here’s part 2 btw

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wwsans · 1 year

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finished my art trade with @jauntyeyes after doing fuck all for nearly 2 months!

#mystic messenger #mysme #saeran choi #fanart #the way i'll never learn color theory bc of how heavy i rely on gradient maps 😩#but learning and practicing is hard

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marshmallowprotection · 4 months

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…Is Seven wearing velcro strap shoes???

These shoes are either Velcro or Button-Snaps. I imagine that's for the sake of convenience. He doesn't have time to waste tying his shoes during a mission, or when he needs to move from location to location without worrying about tripping over his laces. I imagine it's way easier on his hands, too, which no doubt have carpal tunnel from all the years spent repeating the same motion over and over again!

I think he values functionality over fashion in his everyday attire, even though he loves dressing up! The day he doesn't have to live in fear... that's the day when he wears shoes with laces. Saejoong is no longer a threat, nor is the agency in the RAE. Laces! The agency is gone and never coming back, but Saejoong is still in the Secret Ending! Velcro!

I think that is a neat character aspect... it shows a subtle means of his palpable paranoia, and a great accessibility tool.

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cheritzheadcanonz · 6 months

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Jaehee scholds Yoosung for his gaming habits bc there was a time when she developed a slight addiction to dating simulation games and ended up spending a little more money and time than she should have. She discovered Dandelion this way. But she felt embarrassed and decided to stop.

She will never admit this to anyone and is trying to forget about this.

#I LOVE MY JOB!!!! THANKS FOR THE ASKING!#I love when you guys cross the games you know #does it counts as Cheritzverse?#Jaehee #mysme #MM #mystic messenger theories #mystic messenger #headcanon #Jaehee Kang #cheritz #otomegame #otoge #edit #poor Jaehee that's make a lot of sense #dandelion wishes brought to you

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gifti3 · 6 months

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If it was literally anyone else saying this i would believe it was a mistake

#remember that theory that said 707 was aware that this was a dating game or something like that #this reminds me of that #anyways even then #ik that man stays silly but #i think he would be the least surprised if jaehee and the player dated #wow u guys are dating totally didnt see that coming from 5000 miles away 🤓#mystic messenger #mysme 707 #luciel choi

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bonkbunn · 3 months

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Breaking color theory's ankles with this wip of Dae-Jung and Saeyoung sjdjsjfndk

#digital art #art #clip studio paint #mystic messenger #fanart #mystic messenger 707 #saeyoung choi #mysme 707 #trans artist #color theory #im literally a god #mysmes oc #mystic messenger oc #mystic messenger male mc

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outofcontextcheritz · 6 months

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It's me again your fav mod ORANGECATZ advertising my discord server about Otome Games and CHERITZ! Come on in!

Also my other blogs:

@cheritzheadcanonz

@cheritz-shitposting (modWiz is my friend)

@otomegameconfessions

@natsuneages (my personal blog)

#cheritz #cheritzverse #dandelion wishes brought to you #otome game #discord server #discord #mysme #mystic messenger #the ssum #nameless the one thing you must recall #otoge #funny #humor #theory #edit #memes #MC #orangecatz

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mysticm3ss · 11 months

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Chapters: 24/24 Fandom: Mystic Messenger (Video Game) Rating: Explicit Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Zen | Ryu Hyun/Main Character, Zen | Ryu Hyun/Reader, Zen | Ryu Hyun/Original Female Character(s), 707 | Choi Luciel/Main Character, 707 | Choi Luciel/Reader, 707 | Choi Luciel/Original Female Character(s), 707 | Choi Luciel & Main Character Characters: Zen | Ryu Hyun, 707 | Choi Luciel, Han Jumin, Kang Jaehee (Mystic Messenger), Kim Yoosung, V | Kim Jihyun, Vanderwood (Mystic Messenger), Choi Saeran, Original Female Character(s) Additional Tags: Eventual Smut, Fluff, Hurt/Comfort, Love Triangles, Heavy Drinking, Creampie, Angst, Multiple Endings, Named Main Character (Mystic Messenger), Plus-Size Main Character, Swearing, Explicit Sexual Content, but only towards the very end, Reset Theory (Mystic Messenger), POV Second Person, Mental Health Issues, Borderline Personality Disorder, Implied/Referenced Suicide, Suicide Attempt, Implied/Referenced Cheating, Cheating, Eventual Happy Ending Summary:

After Ending 2 of the April Fools DLC, Zen has realised that 'MC' doesn't exist... but in another world, a young woman named Leah does. With Seven's help, the pair of them manage to bring her—you—into their reality.

But even when you're desperate to escape your old mundane life, adjusting to living in a fictional reality is no easy feat—especially when you have your own set of mental health issues to cope with. With that said, though... it is nice to be hugged by your favourite fictional characters.

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I finally finished writing this goddamn fic!!! please read it and comment lol I've done sooo much writing the past few days my brain is dead

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natsuneages · 1 year

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Let's talk about Cheritzverse:

All Cheritz games even when they are in just normal Earth, there are places, planets and dimensions with something MYSTIC!

Let's see some of them:

(We gonna see some spoilers, so be warned)

DANDELION:

• The space\ The Void\ The Wizard's home:

This is a place in somewhere were this magical creature called "Wizard" lives and where he can watch everything any planet and dimension from here.

#cheritz #dandelion wishes brought to you #nameless the one thing you must recall #otome game #dandelion #wizard #nameless #ssum #the ssum #otoge #dating sim #theories #cheritzverse #crossover #AU #UA #mystic messenger #mysme

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roxannarambles · 2 years

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MysMeSsumConnections: Post 1

Hello, all. This is a compilation of my Ssum lab’s first subject of discussion.

Welcome to the lab for discussing theories about how the worlds of Mystic Messenger and Ssum might connect!

First Q: If these two games ARE connected, in what way would you love them to be related?

The consensus seems to be that if there is a connection, it’s probably related to 707 in some way. (Although one user pointed out Teo and V or Zen may meet/become friends due to the career connections)

I’m going to list out some possible ways that Seven could relate to Ssum.

1.) Ssum is a phone game that Seven programmed himself.

It is possible Seven made a dating app just on a whim (he’s certainly done other pet projects on a whim) and then forgot the password before its release, as seen in the MM screencaps.

(Contributed by: Saiph - gNAPzi) It is also possible he made this app to play out his personal fantasy of having a normal life with MC (with Teo being his self-insert). There are many elements in Ssum that seem to match his personal style and aesthetics (the space theme, the AI bird, etc). The setting is also somewhat similar to MM’s premise; meeting a stranger via a mysterious app that somehow ended up on your phone.

(Contributed by: Nia - uHARzC) If you subscribe to reset theory or to the idea Seven is fully aware that he is in a phone game, perhaps Seven programmed Ssum as a way of keeping us company and checking in on us.

2.) Aliens are real and Seven is directly involved with working for the Ssum Forbidden Lab or is at least aware of its existence.

(Contributed by: o6APzn) Perhaps Seven programmed PIU-PIU and some of the Ssum app’s interface. And maybe his involvement runs even deeper and Dr. Cus-Monsieur is just another one of Seven’s many alises-- or, in the very least, Seven knows the Dr and works for them.

(Contributed by: Sofia- aeAOzj) Other people have suggested the easter egg you can find in the Achievements section may be hinting at something bigger. What if one day, Seven was hacking something and somehow discovered a signal from the Ssum Lab? He would learn about this incredible series of labs in space run by aliens-- and then he accidentally blocked the signal/lost the data. Seven desperately tries to find it again but never does and remains obsessed with “the space station” he knows is out there, doing mysterious studies on love.

3.) MysMe and Ssum are set in the same universe but have no direct relation (outside of a few easter eggs).

(Contributed by: Ms- ZfAPzT) This is perhaps the least complex theory. It’s simply the idea that Teo lives on the same planet/time as the people from Mystic Messenger do, but they probably won’t interact much, outside of a few easter eggs. However, user Ms pointed out that even though that may not be as exciting, it’s still a very nice thought. “I’m already happy just thinking that perhaps this world (Ssum) is a world where all of [the MM characters] exist, and that the MC of MM is helping them.”

There is one last theory I did not see posted so far but I wanted to include real quick:

4.) MysMe and Ssum will be connected via some kind of multiverse.

There have already been several hints dropped that Ssum will involve a multiverse in its deeper plotline. PIU-PIU also talks about how they manipulate time and space around Teo, and seems to imply that Teo may exist in a different universe from ours/MC (or a different planet, at least). It’s reasonable to speculate that MysMe may possibly exist in the multiverse in their own dimension, too. (You can also get into a bunch of ideas spitballing off the April Fools Special from MysMe, which implies MC's dimension is seperate from the world of MysMe)

And that’s it for now! A huge thanks to everyone who participated in this lab’s very first research question. If you’d like to join in on the fun, you can find MysMeSsumConnections in the City of Free Men. I plan to post one new discussion topic a week about Ssum & MysMe fan theories, and the top response will get a gift! 🤩

#ssum #mystic messenger #mysme #cheritz #otomes #freedom to be bored #the ssum: forbidden lab #ssum labs #city of free men #PIUPIU #707 #seven #god seven #saeyoung choi #fan theories #mild spoilers for easter eggs #mysticmessener #this is all assuming cheritz answers my support ticket and they fix my game ;__;#right now I literally cannot access any teo chats lol

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annbourbon · 10 months

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My Mystic Messenger Theory: Master List

⚠️ Please be warned: Several of these post contain HUGE SPOILERS so, don't say I didn't warn you. ⚠️

Part 1- It's a Game

Part 2 - MC Mystery *I'm not on acid, but maybe my brain is lolol*

Part 3 - The Characters are Error Numbers

Part 4 - 404 as F.E.

Part 5 - Dandelion

Part 6 - Mystical Chess

Part 7 - Vanderwood

Part 8 - Choi Twins (Saeran's AE)

Part 9 - The Agency

Part 10 - Cheritz Matrix (The Ssum)

Part 11 - Rika killed Sally

Part 12 - Memories

Part 13 - Mystic Messenger Timeline

Part 14:

♥️ 🩷 💚🖤

Analysing RFA & M.E. personalities

💜💛🩶💙

💛 Jaehee 💛

♥️ Saeyoung ♥️

💚 Yoosung 💚

🩶 Zen 🩶

💜 Jumin 💜

🩷 Saeran 🩷

*This includes Unknown, Saeran, and Ray*

💙 V 💙

🖤 Rika 🖤

* Currently working on these analysis.

Part 15 - The Muse

Part 16 - The Real Wizard

(More soon)

★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★☆★

The following ones are not mine but are interesting and add a lot to my theories. Plus, some of these blogs have been deleted so I just reposted them to not miss this info:

MC Soul

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kusukixcrystal · 10 months

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Zen & Rika are Trapped in The MM World Part 2

Now that I established all of the 4th wall breaks and references to previous Cheritz games, we can now get into Zen, Rika and the April Fool’s DLC in more detail, and how all of this ties together.

Let’s start by discussing these references. I think they are also diegetic, like the 4th wall breaks. If MM is a pocket universe created by Saeyoung and V, then of course they would know about the events of Dandelion and Nameless. Why? Because those events inspired them to create the MM pocket universe. They saw The Wizard host these games and meddle in the lives of mortals. He not only accumulates a lot of power by hosting these games but also ends up with Heejung in the end. I talked about how I think V wants to be with Rika, paralleling The Wizard and Heejung’s situation.

What Saeyoung gets out of this is 2 things:

1. Creating a ‘videogame/pocket universe’ because he enjoys it.

2. Get more memories to fuel his power by getting the MC/player to play through the routes.

I can imagine Saeyoung throwing in references to Dandelion and Nameless as a homage to his inspiration for creating this pocket universe, just like how game developers irl reference their own inspirations/previous works. This is really meta, I know. It’s amazing.

The laws of how this pocket universe seems to work are like a videogame. People are machines/AI/robots. They have to follow a set algorithm/script. The only way we can interact with the characters is through the messenger and VN scenes that only show certain locations.

This is how I interpret all of the weirdness in Mystic Messenger, while also connecting it to information we have about wizards.

Rika is Trapped:

I discussed in a follow-up to my Saeran/Ray Another Story post that Rika may actually be trapped in the MM pocket universe too, along with Zen. Though in her case, she finds out this truth and seems to want to get it out. I suggested that this is part of why she created Mint Eye, to get away from V and find a way out of the pocket universe.

1. Rika was the one who told Yoosung that everyone in the RFA are machines in the CS common route bad ending. I talked way more about this in the Saeran/Ray follow-up post.

2. Let’s elaborate on Jumin’s story:

This friend that Jumin is talking about is Rika. For her to want Jumin to read this book, that coincidentally is about the origins of Nameless... I have a feeling that she knows this book’s contents are based on actual events, and that she wants to tell Jumin the truth of their universe, but had to start small.

On that note, Jaehee, Yoosung, and Jumin all seem to understand on some level that their world is fabricated. This is extremely evident in the April Fool’s DLC.

Zen is Trapped:

Here we go. This one is gonna have way too many screenshots:

I can not understate how bonkers this DLC is when it comes to the deeper lore of this game. It took the bad endings, 4th wall breaks, and references, and blows it all out of the water. It feels like all of it has led up to this: a scenario in which Zen realizes he is living in a pocket universe. This crack started in the CS common route bad ending, but we don’t actually see him believe Yoosung.

In this DLC it is Zen’s birthday, and he found himself unable to leave the RFA chat and remains logged in the entire day. I believe that this is because the messenger is the main way characters can communicate in this pocket universe, and if characters are not on screen then they... might be in stasis? Or something similar? In any case, keeping Zen in the chat like this forces him to exist and remain present the entire time.

In the screenshots above, Jaehee clearly understands something that Zen doesn’t. She gives him hints on how to ‘become like them’. In this DLC everyone is an inanimate object: 707 is cardboard, Yoosung is an omelet, Jumin is a cat, and Jaehee is a coffee maker. She doesn’t directly spell it out for him. If Zen does what she says, and acts as bizarre as them, essentially blending into the ‘normal’ of this world, then he turns into an inanimate object too in a bad ending. Can you see the double meaning here? This is a microcosm of what living in the usual (CS, DS, AS) MM pocket universe is like. Act like everyone else. If you don’t, it can lead to suffering (see CS common route bad ending).

Let's ask. Why is this DLC so bizarre anyway? Why did the laws of the pocket universe change? Well, our answer is from dear old Saeyoung the wizard.

This is what he does at the end of the DLC if you get the good ending, where Zen ‘wakes up from his dream’ and has his B-day party. We literally witness Saeyoung state that he needs to change the messenger back to normal. He talks about it in terms of doing magic as a wizard.

Anyway, let’s get back to Zen being trapped. The following screenshots is Zen realizing that he is in a pocket universe. Buckle in it's a doozy:

I mentioned in the past how I think Zen is a prince from Grass. I bring up multiple possibilities for how he got to the MM universe, and I think the most likely one is that he was trapped here, whether he wanted to be here originally or not. He seems to have either been here since he was a child, or his childhood memories were fabricated by Saeyoung. In any case, this dream he had when he was younger may have potentially been him seeing the future. Because he had it when he was younger, it may be further back in the timeline from what we play through in the MM routes. So, seeing us, the real us beyond the screen is predicting the future. It predicted that Zen will find out that we are an entity in another dimension/universe.

I talk about MC and the player interchangeably, and that’s not an accident. I mentioned in a past post that I believe that this time around, we the player are the MC. The avatar with the long brown hair we see in pictures throughout the game is just a vessel for us to interact with the MM pocket universe. This is why she is a blank slate with little personality outside of predetermined options. This is why the MC this time has no personality while in Dandelion and Nameless, Eri and Heejung were fully fleshed-out characters.

I talked in more detail about how we, the player, have been established as an in-universe character way back in Nameless, too.

This doesn’t sound good... this sounds like a man who has fallen into despair. Zen says he has come to terms with it, but he also told us to "use me". He is trapped here, but hey, at least he has some entity in another dimension/universe that he can talk to. Even if that entity is restricted with limited dialogue options! At least a real person knows he’s there, and he asks us to come and see him any time...

Mystic Messenger’s hidden story is messed up.

It’s probably a better outcome to get the good ending in this DLC, where Zen celebrates his birthday with the RFA, his fellow prisoners (if Yoosung is to be believed about them being real people at some point). Maybe ignorance is bliss in this case?

Now let’s think about why Saeyoung or V would want Zen to be here. Maybe both Rika AND Zen made a desperate wish. Maybe Zen made this wish to either V or Saeyoung, not The Wizard from Dandelion.

Perhaps Zen wanted to get away from Grass, for reasons I mentioned in my previous posts? And they technically grant it by sending him here to the MM pocket universe. His memories of Grass may have been the price for this wish, thus why he doesn’t remember his old life as a prince.

As for Rika she probably still led a tragic life, not dissimilar to her backstory from RAS. It seems like she made this desperate wish to a wizard we have never seen before. We even SEE this happen with her in V’s after ending, where Rika is seen in a dimension eerily similar to where The Wizard and other wizards are known to reside.

The background is a sea of stars. They aren’t identical but keep in mind that Dandelion was made in 2012, and V after the story was made in like 2018. In RAS we see this location again, along with it we hear a song from Dandelion play called “Ra rochu ra no so - In a Frozen Dream”.

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It’s the same song. The wizard speaking to Rika has a female voice and seems to be much gentler. I think that besides V and Saeyoung there are definitely way more wizards involved in all of this.

TL;DR: Mystic Messenger is a pocket universe created by Saeyoung and V. Their goal differs. V wants to be with Rika and Saeyoung wants memories/fun. Rika and Zen both had desperate wishes. Zen to leave Grass and Rika to realize she is the sun. Zen made his wish to either V or Saeyoung, and they grant it by sending him to the MM universe. Rika made it to an unknown wizard but is whisked away by V because he became obsessed with her. He tries to become her ‘sun’. This doesn’t work out.

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one-hell-of-otaku-is-here · 29 days

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Now this is very interesting from pov of someone who played mysme and is now playing the ssum... connection between two goes deeper than I initially thought...

For the context here - June, Jumin's half brother was moved to Jumin's inslad (we all know very well from Mysme btw). Jumin have decided to have his friends aka V and Rika to visit June because June is a talented painter (and if you know you know V used to be painter too). Since V and Rika are still together this all makes me believe this all takes place some time before Mysme but what's most interesting is Piu Piu content on "you must be connected to lab's founder"

For those who played Harry's route (which is a must, it'sonly finished route and despite being long it was... interesting), we have seen silluete of this founder, the one WHO MADE THE SSUM IN THE FIRST PLACE, but we know nothing about him. Yet the fact HE IS CONNECTED TO V AND SO TO MYSME AS A WHOLE is very interesting... ofc I don't think the founder is 707 but I do think he's someone connected to him and ofc to V

Aaand if you've been here since 2016 or played Cheritz first two Pc games you'd know of existence of wizards and since app as a whole can 1) take satellites photos and 2) do deep analysis on what Voice on chats should and shouldn’t be shown for the sake of LI's relationship with MC I wouldn’t be suprised if he was more than just some dude (especially since we know June had to wait a long time for his match unlike for example Henri which makes me believe LI has to be at certain state of mind to be able to get their perfect match... and our founder of Ssum isn't going to do anything less than wholeheartedly...

Bonus - Cheritz isn't even trying to be subtle they want me to call out MY DEEP LOVE FOR V AAAA WDYM HE'S WAITING IN ANOTHER WORLD???!?!?! (V WIZARD CONFIMED OR WTF IS PIU PIU TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT IN ANOTHER WORLD??)

#the ssum #this is just a theory #cheritz theory #pls i miss supernatural stuff pls bring it back #cheritz #mysme

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disemboweled-fish-pastry · 2 years

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☆ Anyone ever notice Yoosung and Seven's glasses resemble each other's hair color? XD ☆

wait...

no way, right???

#mystic messenger #mysme #yoosung #707 #mysme 707 #mysme yoosung #yoosung kim #saeyoung choi #lol me releasing my borderline believable crack theories to the wind #I have more! I could always throw in how people think Seven created the Ssum app and how Teo has purple eyes like Yoosung. teeheehee #Who's interested in me creating borderline plausible crack theories?#An easy debunk is that the black star Seven uses for Yoosung's username is actually U+605

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cheritzheadcanonz · 10 months

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"Rika was the first MC who tried to help RFA, but all power consumed her at the point she lose her power of reset and now she is trapped in a Bad Ending.

The MC is the another plauer in this game to fill up this role. That's why they (even Rika) says we are like her and when we do BE we got traped in this same circle until another player cames out. That's why we have so many MCs but only ONE won the game."

#cheritz #Mystic Messenger #cheritzverse #wizard #Rika #rika mystic messenger #theories #otome game #dating sim #mysme #THIS IS ONE THEORY ABOUT ONE FIC I HAD AND POST ON THE SSUM GAME IF YOU WANT I CAN REPOST ON TUMBLR #I'M NOT RIKA STAN OR TRYING FEEL SORRY FOR HER. I'M NOT!!! THAT'S SAD BUT ARE JUST CRAZY THINGS IN MY HEAD NOT FIGHT OVER CARTOON CHARACTER #tired #english is lame as me and my edits #i hate being in dead fandons as I hate cheritz #I see your theories guys #they inspires me a lot to still posting and not giving up of this fandom

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