#simon and grace

[they-call-me-haiku]

i just realized how similar Simon from Infinity Train and Catra from SPOP is.

both of them start at a pretty bad place but only gets worse from there. they have anger issues. they support a cult-like environment that fosters animosity and cruelty towards innocent people. they kill people, they are controlling and possessive of their best friend/love interest, and they refuse to take responsibility for their actions.

both of them have gone through some kind of trauma that left them with abandonment and trust issues. both are powerful villains but horrible people. they violate their best friend/love interest's boundaries. their best friend/love interest tries to get them to snap out of it and stop all their evil bs, but they respond to that with bitterness and toxicity. both of them have a mental breakdown at some point. their best friend/love interest would save them in a heartbeat, and they would kill that person in a heartbeat.

the only difference is that:

1. Simon was at least a better friend to Grace before she started to deflect. he seemed to actually care about her. he also had the potential to be redeemed. I would even argue that he starts out slightly better than Grace, because he wasn't as manipulative as she was in the beginning.

2. Simon doesn't get a lazy and rushed redemption arc. he doesn't get his happy ending with Grace. instead, he gets the ending he deserves, even if it was a little brutal. Simon was a sympathetic and insanely complex character, and that is why the creators chose not to redeem him, because it would have ruined his character.

(also the reason why i love Simon and hate Catra)

#spop salt #spop critical #spop criticism #spop discourse #spop #spop catra #simon #simon infinity train #infinity train #grace infinity train #simon and grace #anti catra #anti catradora #catradora #catra #adora #shera #she ra

[coffeekoe]

Screen shot redraw of the faves <3

#my art #infinity train #your honor im obsessed #simon laurent #grace monroe #simon and grace #infinity train fanart #infinity train book 3 #redraw #digital art #grimon

[thelostmoongazer]

yeah he's baby girl or whatever

#fionna and cake #fionna and cake spoilers #simon petrikov #winter king #winterkov #/ suggestive #yeah dont even look or breathe in my direction #I think i might lean back into posting more suggestive stuff again #nothing super debaucherous but yknow #also i like drawing wk a little bit aged despite him altering his appearance however he likes yknow #give him a tasteful aging and nice graceful wrinkles <3 #moon art #simon x winter king #selfcest #simoncest #i look at those tags and i admitedly hate them fbdhjvfbh but someone asked me to tag it #ive never liked the ''selfcest'' tag cuz it has connotations i dont particularly agree #but if its for the sake of tagging appropriately ill do it whatever

[nymphacae]

i was planning on making this a print if people are interested! The Gang's All Here

#my art #ill probably edit some stuff around later #infinity train #tulip olsen #jesse cosay #lake infinity train #hazel infinity train #grace monroe #simon laurent #amelia hughes #ryan akagi #min-gi park

[saccharinescorpion]

it's been three years since Infinity Train Book 3 aired. here's something i made like two years ago and never posted

#infinity train #infinity train book 3 #simon laurent #grace monroe #hazel infinity train

[johannesviii]

So we've been watching Infinity Train with my friends and we just finished season 3 and

#textpost meme #tumblr text posts #infinity train #infinity train spoilers #the speed at which I made that too #like we finished s3 #and 10 minutes later I was making this #grace monroe #simon laurent

[cursed-iris]

this is so old but you bet i'm still going to post it because i think it's funny.

#infinity train #infinity train book 3 #infinity train book three #grace monroe #simon laurent #art #artists on tumblr #digital illustration #digital art #cartoon network #hbo max #infinity train memes #infinity train season 3 #rip dust boy #illustration #art memes #shhh ignore all the mistakes #i need to redraw this

[lalalvlove]

Drew this very late for the #givebackinfinitytrain trend on twitter yesterday :]

#infinity train #infinity train fanart #infinity train book one #infinity train book two #infinity train book three #infinity train book four #tulip olsen #one one #jesse cosay #lake infinity train #ryan akagi #min gi park #rymin #grace monroe #hazel infinity train #simon laurent #amelia hughes #kez infinity train #alan dracula #Atticus infinity train

[kingoftheu]

Infinity Train Book 1: Man this Train is fucked up!

Infinity Train Book 1 Finale: Just kidding the Train is good lol

Infinity Train Books 2-4: lol get pranked again the Train is really fucked up

#infinity train #infinity train book two #infinity train book three #infinity train book 4 #infinity train book four #tulip olsen #mirror tulip #lake #lake infinity train #jesse cosay #alan dracula #grace monroe #simon laurent #hazel #tuba #amelia hughes #ryan akagi #min gi park #trauma #owen dennis #infinity train spoilers

[huntmavs]

mission: impossible dead reckoning part one (2023) is my favourite comedy film

#tom cruise #film #movie #ethan hunt #huntmavs edit #mission impossible #edit #midr #mi7 #mission impossible dead reckoning #part one #hayley atwell #grace #benji dunn #simon pegg #rebecca ferguson #ilsa faust #ving rhames #luther stickell #eugene kittridge #henry czerny #shea whigham #jasper briggs #greg tarzan davis #degas #pom klementieff #Paris

[they-call-me-haiku]

so something that bothered me about the Infinity Train fandom is how they always seem to be on either of two extreme ends when it comes to judging Simon's character. it's either "Simon is an evil scum who deserved to die" or "Simon is an innocent misunderstood victim". like.. have you guys never heard of complex villains?

the worst take I've seen is people blaming the show writers for killing off Simon because "they're implying that he deserved to die". i just don't know how people jumped to this conclusion, it's a leap for sure. you don't kill off characters in a story because they deserve to die, you do it because that's the way the story goes.

and i agree that certain writers can have controversial ideals that reflect in their writing, but i really don't think that's the case here. Simon's death was never framed as satisfactory or victorious, it was framed as tragic. you don't see Grace and the Apex celebrating his death, you see them mourning it. he tried to kill Grace but she is still heartbroken and traumatized by his death. it's so clear that the narrative wants us to sympathize with him, but also acknowledge the fact that he did some pretty heinous stuff that can't be forgiven.

could Simon have been redeemed? yes. i think any character could be redeemed, regardless of how evil they were because as i've mentioned before, redemption ≠ forgiveness. but did he need to be redeemed? no. the point of this season was to show two characters who start off in the same place and end up in wildly different ones. two characters who are given choices and choose the one that decides their fate.

the truth here is that while Simon is a traumatized character that we can empathize with, he still chose the path that led to his demise. and believe it or not, people sometimes do that. for example, if a person with an alcohol addiction drank and drove, and ended up killing themself in an accident, that is the direct consequence of their actions. does that mean they deserved it? probably not. they may have had an understandable explanation to why they drank. they may have been depressed or peer pressured or trying to escape harsh realities, and none of it is their fault. but people die and sometimes it's a grizzly death. sometimes the nicest people suffer a lot, and it's not a testament to their character.

some fans may have painted Simon as a pure evil but the show certainly didn't, and it's stupid to attack the creators for killing off a character for narrative purpose. like.. is this the first time you've seen a fictional character die? i understand being upset about it, i was upset about it too. but it was the right decision in a narrative sense. Infinity Train has never shied away from touching on brutally realistic topics and this is just part of it.

my point is. sometimes people just die a brutal death. death doesn't have a specific meaning and it's not a testament to people's morality. it's just death.

#i've seen people behave the same way about azula from avatar #like yes we love a good redemption arc #but not everyone can be zuko #anyone can be redeemed but not all characters need to be redeemed #sometimes its interesting to explore what would happen if a character didnt try to redeem themselves #anyway this has been my rant #infinity train #infinity train book 3 #simon infinity train #simon laurent #simon and grace #grace infinity train #grace monroe #infinity train meta #infinity train spoilers #i guess infinity train fabs wanted a catra-style redemption arc where grace is like #“its okay simon i forgive you even though you murdered someone” #fans*

[coffeekoe]

silly blushy boy

#my art #your honor im obsessed #infinity train #infinity train book 3 #infinity train fanart #simon laurent #grace monroe #simon and grace #grace and simon

[noonewilleverknowistealkneecaps]

Why everyone so awkward.

Slowly but surely pulling myself outta art block with the people from that train show.

#Cant wait to get inspiration for Twin peaks as well #infinity train #infinity train book 4 #infinity train book 3 #infinity train book 2 #fanart #drawing #sketch #doodle #art #rymin infinity train #ryan akagi #min gi park #jesselake fanart #jesselake #mt #jesse cosay #simon infinity train #grace infinity train #tulip olsen #one one #infinity train atticus #sillies #my scrunklies

[flickering-nightfall]

#here's the other crossover i was talking about #“what do you mean these aren't denizens?” #“what the hell did that cat thing DO???” #...how do you think five pebbles got on the train? #do you think it magically destrung him? #do you think it just barreled through the walls of his superstructure to get to his puppet... #rain world #rw spoilers #dp spoilers #rw artificer #five pebbles #infinity train #infinity train spoilers #sort of #only tagging simon and grace in my heart because they're in the background #i hope one day infinity train magically gets picked up again and finished #it's an amazing show

[nymphacae]

Infinity train book 3 stands in the corner of my room every night

#my art #infinity train #grace monroe #simon laurent #hazel infinity train #tw eyestrain #body horror #you know me at this point

[omarcitoloves]

simon's arc and growth in s3 was one of my favorite storylines and is one of the main reasons i like s3 so much.

in s1 we got to see the foundations of such a beautiful complex character - a boy who loves his family and those who have earned their way into his heart almost more than himself, loyal to a fault, vibrant and not afraid to make himself more of an outsider by standing by his ethos and personality.

and simon being his truest self taught the 2 most important ppl in his life their key lessons. sara now understands the gift of giving ppl second chances and wanting to hope they wont always fuck it all up. and wille learned everything from simon. how to love unashamedly. how to believe in yourself. how to look outside of yourself. how to speak your mind. how to forgive. how to live freely

idk i think there is something so missing in ppl who cant understand his character in s3 and maybe its a lack of life experience but knowing when you need to remove yourself from a situation that is destroying you and the ppl you love is important and real. he made himself so small to try and fit for willes life and that hurt them both, wille needed shining simon as much as simon did.

love is not always enough and simon was brave for recognizing that. for continuing to stand by issues and ideals that were deeply important to him. to recognize when his own actions were causing ppl harm. to continue to forgive and give ppl more chances despite being hurt but also knowing when he needs to put himself first

on my first watch of s3ep6 it something i couldnt stop thinking abt and i stand by it on a few rewatches, for someone so integral to everyone's personal growth bc he was that catalyst or lesson for them, he felt a bit forgotten. and i get there was a lot of loose ends to be tied up but im ngl he felt a little rushed/in limbo bc of it but i still think he had a full beautiful arc in s3. and the way ppl still damn him for every move makes me wish he had even more time to develop throughout esp s2 i wish everyone could see just how beautiful and complex simon is and how he is the base of everyone around him

#simon eriksson #he is my son and i will stand by him until i die #rambles at 2 am idek if this is fully coherent but oh well #was reading the song of achilles and it reminded me a bit too much of my love for yr at the beginning #he deserves just as much empathy and grace as every other character #he is not villain #young royals #young royals s3 #young royals analysis #young royals character analysis