#svtfoe critical

[slothyykittee]

The biggest thing I learned when being a critic of other writers, is that pride will lead to your downfall.

Whether you are religious or not, you may have heard the story of Lucifer and how he fell from grace due to pride. That story can be applied to this situation.

Writers proclaiming in their heads that their skills are pure perfection, to the point of doubling down on any criticism they see. This issue is due to these people seeing their writings as an extension of themselves, which then see this as a personal attack.

We all know that criticism, no matter how constructive, hurts. You worked so hard and did your best on a project, only for someone to point out the flaws of it.

You end up feeling broken and sad. Despite your efforts, your project is not perfect.

But here's the thing: You are human. You are bound to make mistakes. No person that lived on this Earth never made a mistake. You need to consider that person's point of view. Sure, you feel hurt hearing their critical words, but that's short term. You need to focus on the long term: the benefits that this critical view will give you.

Constructive criticism is like a medical needle: it will hurt you the first time, but in the long term, it will help you get better.

Listen what others tell you. They want you to reach your full potential. Don't dismiss it, or that will lead to your fall from grace.

#writing #writers on tumblr #writeblr #writing advice #vivziepop critical #hazbin hotel critical #spop critical #lore olympus critical #lore olympus criticism #she ra critical #svtfoe critical #writing community #on writing

[dappercritter]

(Never too late for a) SVTFOE Hot Take

I actually think you could have vastly improved the narrative if this guy was Eclipsa's monster husband instead of Globgor.

EDIT (23/08/23): I probably should have put this upfront but if Toffee was Eclipsa's monster-man instead, let me be absolutely clear that

I WOULD HAVE USED THIS AS AN EXCUSE TO GIVE TOFFEE A SYMPATHETIC BACKSTORY AND REDEMPTION ARC INSTEAD OF BEING JUST PLAIN EVIL LIKE A LAZY WRITER.

#star vs the forces of evil #svtfoe #svtfoe theory #svtfoe rewrite #svtfoe critical #(DON'T GET YOUR HOPES UP) #toffee of septarsis #toffee svtfoe #toffee star vs the forces of evil #eclipsa butterfly #queen eclipsa #eclipsa svtfoe #globgor #globgor svtfoe #ramblings of the critter #(I want to tag the ship names but I can't remember them and I don't think I want to) #you can tell by the amount of tags how badly I want people to notice this

[thousandyearphantombunker]

“The titan said Belos is evil tho! Are you stupid the show said he was evil!”“Masha said lil’ bro just got jelly that his brother got a girlfriend! He doesn’t have depth and his ending was supposed to be unsatisfying!”“But James Ironwood losing his arm is supposed to represent him losing his humanity”“Jason Rose said that James could’ve always become evil and sided with Salem”“They literally called him genocide general!”“But in this Q&A they said the puppies survived they just lost their laser powers! And in the tie-in material, they showed everyone was fine! You just hate Starco!”“The show/tie-in material/a fucking Q&A said blah blah blah!”These arguments are shit. TOH- “God says witches are evil so it is his duty to kill them!” is a pretty horrible justification for killing someone except when the titan says it to Luz. I don’t think Luz is in the wrong for killing Belos, he was a genocidal maniac and child abuser and genuinely irredeemable- nobody who hates the ending of The Owl House complains about Belos being irredeemable, they complain about the show flopping the cult critical message, how hunter’s possession felt like needless shock value, the show not properly setting up the collector or how the coven system/conformitorium’s writing is a mess or how Eda becoming a teacher makes as much sense as Toph becoming a cop and you can go ‘but the show said-’ what the show said had unfortunate implications, was uncomfortable to abuse survivors, and I can’t forgive the ass-pullery of the trailer-bait nightmare sequence or how in the hexside crew became irrelevant! When people complain about how Belos was handled nobody complains about him not getting a redemption arc- they complain that hunter should’ve been there to see belos die or how they hate Luz’s power up. RWBY -James Ironwood’s and Penny’s character arcs and deaths felt so ableist it’s actually uncomfortable to watch, I have ASD my sister, and like half of the people I know have PTSD, I don’t know any amputees but I’ve seen plenty making noise about how shit the writing was. Good, they should be mad! The show’s message about prosthetics/amputations was toxic! Not mention for all the hopeful messages Team RWBY screams at the top of their lungs about trust they knowingly broke Ironwood’s trust for very poorly defined reasons! while I do think ruthless pragmatism is a bad thing, team RWBY offered no alternatives, he wasn’t a villain- he was facing an ethical dilemma and got fucked over. And SVTFOE- I shouldn’t have to buy tie-in materials to understand the show- tie-in material should be a bonus not a supplement or requirement, I Don’t have to buy the ATLA comics inorder to understand the show, I don’t have to read all of Lord Of The Rings to understand the movies. It doesn’t matter how the show was supposed to be interpreted or how the audience is supposed to feel, and It’s perfectly valid for the audience not to care about damage control spinoffs (cough cough Steven Universe) or Q&A’s or whatever. I’ll admit sometimes the audience is fucking stupid and completely media illiterate but can we stop acting like anyone who doesn’t blindly consume product and go with what the writers said are stupid? I know im not articulating this well but I’m pissy rn and I’m having trouble deconstructing whats wrong with those kind of arguments but god there is so much wrong with these arguements

#fuck rt #Rwde #toh critical #svtfoe critical #I promise I'm not anti TOH I wrote a whole ass essay on the show because I love its depiction of disability for college #Also svtfoe is a comfort show #But can we admit that the writing is a mess #I used to love rwby but God the show fell from grace #As did rooster teeth as a whole #For such a woke show it sure was ableist! #ableism #Rant #Nerd rage

[starlight-bread-blog]

When a there is an outside factor building up to romantic leads not ending up together, while also wrecking the pacing of the ship...

And the red herring's being toxic but the writers just hope you pick up on the vibe without holding anyone accountable...

Is when it's time to check your bias.

#adrigami #pro zutara #zutara #anti adrienette #anti ladynoir #anti love square #miraculous critical #ml criticism #anti mlb #anti ml #mlb critical #ml critical #mlb salt #miraculous ladybug critical #anti miraculous ladybug #anti starco #pro tomstar #tomstar #tom x star #anti miraculous #miraculous ladybug salt #star vs critical #anti svtfoe #svtfoe critical #svtfoe salt #anti bryke #anti kataang #anti thomas astruc #atla critical #zutara was robbed

[ultra-creepy-fucker-things]

I feel like Toffee's reappearance in "Meteora's Lesson" is an interesting decision. It's kinda like their saying "yes, we are going to reveal he was right in a few episodes, but fear not! He was kinda a dick as a teenager, so he still deserved to get melted."

Also I do think that Glossaryck's position on the MHC kinda contextualizes Toffee's reaction to him. Glossaryck is not an innocent bystander, he has a high position in Mewni's government, which is extremely bigoted against monsters, and held that position during the reigns of such queens as Solaria, assuming Toffee knows who he is, he has every reason to.... Strongly discourage this creep from hanging around him and his freedom fighting buddies.

#svtfoe #toffee svtfoe #svtfoe toffee #svtfoe critical

[sagesilentfire]

Hello, everyone. It's so strange to be saying this, but the last part of SAMATFOE is imminent, and we're getting closer and closer to the End. It's been a really fun five years. (Four to ya'll, but I've been working on this for longer than I've been talking about it publicly!) The cast of characters has expanded dramatically, I've gotten much better as a writer and artist, and I feel I've grown as a person too. I won't stop stalking the svtfoe tag or talking about svtfoe after this is done, don't worry, but I have a lot of non-svtfoe related plans in the future, so if you like Sílthéy and her weird siblings, don't stop following when SAMATFOE is over. 

But as for the actual contents of s5, well, I've got lots of plans. We've got a dark magic plague that's an incredibly transparent metaphor for climate change. We've got Mina playing the oil barons and trying to stop everyone from saving the world for her own personal gain. We've got Glossaryck (capitalism). We've even got the answers to a lot of mysteries and character arcs. Like, so many character arcs. It has been incredibly difficult to stuff all these character arcs into this far-too-short piece of fanfiction. But I hope I did that adequately. 

On a personal note, while hiring a beta/sensitivity reader for a piece as massive as SAMATFOE proved impossible for someone who does not own their own money, I have done a lot more research than I had at seventeen. I wanted the monsters to be more than just badly-done allegories for Native Americans – I wanted them to be people with their own culture, history, and ideas. People who are inspired by real-world Indigenous cultures, but, because they're literally nonhuman, are distinct from them. Whether or not they could count as Indigenous is discussed in-text, but I do not come to an actual conclusion because I want my readers to draw their own. It's not my place to say whether colonized space aliens could be Indigenous. And their connection to the land and to magic is drawn from their shared knowledge, not mysticism, and their culture is idealized because a caring godlike entity helped them to that, not because they're better than anyone. I hope to demonstrate that they are all people, first and foremost. Because we're going to be spending time in Septarsis! So much time! And Toffee has officially been promoted to main character status! It's Star and Marcie AND the Forces of Evil, babey!

But there's a lot of characters here. So, for the second and final time, 

Dramatis Personae:

Star - Star doesn't know what to do. She has everything she ever wanted, even if she doesn't realize it. She has no future responsibilities, having passed that to Eclipsa, but she is still special and important, being the most powerful magic-user ever to exist and the only one who can fix the dark magic, and Toffee doesn't even seem to hate her. Sílthéy does, though, and that is a sticking point. Star is much less oblivious now, though even her oblivious former self would probably pick up on the bad vibes Sílthéy is actively sending her way. She wants everyone to see how hard she's working to make everything better, but Sílthéy doesn't, and that is unbearable. Add that to Shinjai avoiding her and Marcie growing distant, and she has very little time for introspection, even if that would help fix things.

Marcie - Marcie is done with Mewni. She can't believe she believed the Butterflys' lies for so long. She's going to devote herself to Septarsis as fervently as she did Mewni. She just... she doesn't want to bother anyone, or take anyone's time. Why should she get attention paid to her, when there are stronger and smarter magic users out there who could do so much to actually help the world? Marcie is small and useless, and clearly so easily tricked. Better to work on herself before she brings anyone else into her orbit. Also, Star keeps making bad decisions, and Marcie's boundaries are pushing her away too... maybe it's better to do everything alone.

Ludo - Ludo is having a great time! He's earned the trust of some of the monsters in the Avarius village, his plumbing has been fixed, and Pemma is teaching him how to use the Avarius Beacon! Certainly nothing bad is going to happen to him or anyone he cares about! :D

Buff Frog - I'll confess here: Buff Frog is not a huge part of s5. He'll appear in the finale, but he's not a fighter anymore, and lives a peaceful life in Septarsis. He still has fond feelings for Star, but he's not too worried about her. She's strong, and he has twelve young froglets to take care of. She'll be fine on her own... right?

Toffee - Una'met Co'tzin-Nekohtzaca, Last Child of Old Septarsis, The Forces of Evil, Kéta'cha For the Dragon of Space, is doing FINE. They're definitely not five bad seconds away from a total mental breakdown, definitely not, that would be bad for everyone involved, and they are a calm, peaceful, certified not-doing-bad-things-er. The fact that everyone is almost certainly going to die a horrible death from dark magic is fine. They just have to cram thirty-plus years of training into the rapidly-dwindling time before the entire multiverse is dead. They barely know Star Butterfly, except that she's too good for things like "basic training" and "reading." How are they going to do this? And why won't Sílthéy tell them why she caused this in the first place? Well, they do know one thing, which is they can't tell Star about that.

Jackie - Jackie is done with Star Butterfly. She's talked to... someone, and done some digging, and that only served to verify the book she was given in s4. She doesn't know anything about Mewni save for what the book told her, but she can't believe that she trusted the family that doomed her dimension.

Janna - Janna doesn't like this apocalypse. No chance of survival is boring. So she's going to do what she can to help out. Also, she's been keeping her own secrets, secrets that might hold the key to survival.

Tom - Tom isn't angry anymore. He's not angry at Eclipsa for keeping Miquiz locked up, he's not angry for the Butterflys for spreading the dark magic that's thrown the Underworld into chaos, he's not angry that he keeps being left out of things. He's. Not. Angry. Anymore!

Moon - Moon didn't kill her mother. She didn't. It was Toffee, Toffee who couldn't come up with some loophole, Toffee who couldn't forget a conversation that happened when they were a child, Toffee who aimed the arrow at Comet's chest. And her holding onto anger isn't what's driving Star away from her, it's Toffee. They're the one driving her daughter away from her! But as cold reality and remaining dark secrets loom behind her, her brittle facade is beginning to crumble.

Glossaryck - Glossaryck misses when he and Star got along. Yeah, he's destroying her dimension, and everyone in it, and her, all to win kudos from his family, but it really sucks that Star won't give him the time of day anymore. He used to be her wise old mentor! Geez, she was going to die anyways, that's what mortals do! Might as well get along before it happens!

River - River is tired of being left out of the loop. He doesn't know what's going on. He doesn't know what to do. Moon barely speaks to him, she's always busy with Eclipsa, or whatever. But he might be the thing Moon needs, if she would only let him in.

Angie - Angie doesn't know if she should have had Mariposa. Sure, Mari is wonderful, and she loves her, and she DID NOT have a baby to replace Marcie dear god why were the svtfoe writers like that – *ahem* but the multiverse is ending, and Mariposa is just a baby... she didn't want to bring a baby into this world just to have them all die.

Rafael - Rafael is worried about Star. He's worried there's nothing he and Angie can do to help her. He's worried about Marcie. She seems really stressed about the dark magic. But he's the calm, goofy dad, so he's going to keep being that, and praying it'll help somehow. 

Mariposa - Mariposa is fresh to the world, and doesn't understand much of anything yet. But everyone is worried she won't survive long enough to understand the world at all.

Kelly - Kelly is chilling. Apparently Star and Marcie are off on a trip to Septarsis, but that's none of her business as long as art classes and hangouts with Nova and Jorby go well. She might drop by to visit, though.

Miss Heinous - Saint Olga is dead. Miss Heinous's one reason for existing, her greatest love and greatest enemy, the robot who raised her, is dead. What does Miss Heinous do now?

Meteora - Meteora's doing great. She's won popular opinion, she's training to be a true Crown Princess, or at least a high-ranking official, if Sílthéy's democracy takes off. She's stepped into her role as a leader, far more than her mother could claim. But that's fine. Not everyone is suited for leadership.

Eclipsa - Eclipsa has an albatross around her neck. She is doing her best to ignore it, to be a good queen, to love her people, but... she cannot get away from the child she killed. Would it be easier if she was just always evil, not done one evil act out of rage and grief? Well, she knows what happened to her mother. What does she do now?

Globgor - Globgor is doing his best. He's a little miffed by Sílthéy mistrusting him, as her first big act of s5 will be to demonstrate how little he's valued as a Legitimate Voice of the Monsters, but really, who can complain. There's so much else going on, who cares if he fades into the background?

Shinjai - Shinjai gets the wand. Shinjai does not want the wand, and the circumstances surrounding her getting the wand are ridiculous, but she gets it, and she hates it, and she can't control it. Unlike Star, her inability to control the wand makes her not want to use the wand at all lest she hurt someone with it. Oh, and Star keeps wanting to teach her fun spells now that she's been handed this nuclear bomb of a magic wand, and Shinjai does not want to deal with Star. She hasn't forgiven Star. She doesn't want to forgive Star. She'll ignore Star as much as she can, and focus instead on Alice and the teen militia, which is much more fun. She loves Alice. She loves learning to fight, learning to battle the most dangerous people in the multiverse and win WITHOUT the help of a wand. She'd be doing great, if her past would stop knocking at her door.

Rasticore - Rasticore's worried about his partner. Una is fraying at the seams trying to fix everything, and he has the feeling they're not telling him something. But what else is new? He'll wait. He has friends to make, a new teenage militia to help train, and a Miss Heinous to keep from destroying Septarsis stone by stone. He's endlessly patient. When Una wants to talk to him, he'll be there for them. He just... has... to... wait...

Mina - Mina is trying to destroy the world. She doesn't tell her followers that, no, they don't even know the dark magic is a thing, but she wants Glossaryck to win and the Solarian Age, of which she is the last remnant, to end everything with it. So she'll destroy the world, and fulfill Solaria's dream of taking the Forces of Evil with her.

Lilacia - Lilacia is, somehow, a spoiler. Like, legitimately, the Princess Formerly Known as Ponyhead's role in s5 is a spoiler, and not for magic power-up speech cliché reasons. But she's still her dumb, ditzy self, of course.

Still Unnamed Mystery Character - "Stella" is still mysterious, but I promise you we'll get who she is and her backstory in this part ;)

Alice - Alice is wary of the new Mewman presence on the outskirts of Septarsis. She knows why they're there, but she's still extremely suspicious. She does not want them to hurt Septarsis. But she doesn't know that the true danger comes a little closer to home.

Teyauh - Teyauh is also a spoiler, but she'll be there!

Linda - Linda loves her wife, and will follow her anywhere, but Teyauh will have to accept that her knees don't work how they used to, so Linda will have to follow in a suit of POWER ARMOR, BABY!

Nova - Nova is part of the Nuxalkmc, an Indigenous tribe native to the Northwestern Turtle Island, and she loves that about herself. Now that Kelly and her dimensional scissors are here, she can finally explore the multiverse to find new places and see if they're anything like home. Septarsis is one of those places, and she loves it at first sight.

Dr. Edevane - Dr. Edevane is a doctor. He and Toffee have a lot to nerd out talk about together. He will be useful, too.

Dennis - Dennis is busy reigning in dozens of siblings, including Ludo. It's a busy life, but a happy one. Nothing bad whatsoever will happen to him! (I'm lying)

Chloe - Chloe doesn't know this "Star Butterfly" person, but she's very suspicious. But man, Mewni would be such a cool place to visit... so much magic! ...No, she needs to concentrate on being mad. And she is mad. She wants Earth to be like Mewni, like it deserves to be.

Hekapoo - Hekapoo doesn't like her dad's plan. He says it'll work out, it's fine, but the plan is... questionable. She doesn't like it. And she definitely isn't getting conflicting feelings about puppeteering her brother around, either...

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Reynaldo - Reynaldo looks and looks and he does and does, but he does not win this bet. It is the thing he wants most, that he will do all sorts of terrible, horrible-things-that-make-him-want-to-throw-up to get. What is it? 

Omnitraxus Prime - Omni will do anything to protect the multiverse. Including trusting zir dad, who is looking more untrustworthy by the day, and trusting Mina, who was never trustworthy in the first place. Mina has much more training than Star, and strong magical ability from spending three hundred years close to the wand, and it's the best option... right?

Necahua - Necahua is a mess currently, and being a mess leaves you more open to mistakes. Uh oh! Una still loves them, though. 

In fact, I made a short story in my creative writing class about the relationships between Una'met, Necahua, and Cayeto, since I feel they got overlooked in the main story. Yes, no one in my class had any idea what was going on. I'll post it next, before chapters 1 and 2 of s5.

Cayeto - Cayeto is also in the short story. He doesn't play a huge role in the main plot, but he is just another reason Toffee does the things they do. He died hoping that Una and Necahua, specifically, survived, and Necahua died, so he does not have the best grip on reality.

Xocochiapal - Xoco is the de-facto ghost leader of the ghosts now. No legislation without representation, right? Toffee does most of the work, but she's in charge when they can't address a thing right away. She was right despite everyone else blindly going to their deaths, and now everyone knows it. She also was the highest-ranked Septarian to become a ghost, and her hatred of the Mewman occupation is a clear and strong motivation.

Tecoloa - Tecoloa is the voice of reason. The good one. She died protecting her elementary school class from the worst of the heat, and that caring nature has translated into protecting everyone she can. 

Sílthéy - Sílthéy is a character now, and OH BOY is she happy about it. She hates Star and will never get over it, and she loves to remind Star of that fact. She feels immense guilt for what happened with Septarsis, and will never get over that, either. She is a mess, but she's been hiding her messiness for 0/0 years, so she's a pro. And it's not like anyone here can stop her from being a mess, can they? So she'll go on being a mess in her corner, and she'll be fine. Her hobbies include storytelling, dissing Star, and doing the most bizarre stuff in the background of any given scene. She owns her weirdness. She's annoying, but that just makes her more fun to write.

Mocel - Mocel is mad at Eclipsa. She's mad at all Mewmans, really. She cares a lot about Miquiz, and she hates that he's locked up while she, with her lightweight ash body, can sneak out whenever she likes. The world isn't fair, and she knows it.

Miquiz - Miquiz is dying a second time. The dark magic wound on his chest is expanding. He doesn't want to leave, not without seeing the sun again, but he may not have a choice. He doesn't want to leave without saying something to Eclipsa, but again, no choice. He doesn't know what to do.

Tecolo - Tecolo is just vibin. He wants to see Ludo again, and he will, but he's mostly busy having fun with his dead and living relatives after centuries floating in the void.

#svtfoe #svtfoe critical #svtfoe negativity #svtfoe rewrite #svtfoe salt #star vs the forces of evil #samatfoe #art #my art #my posts #update #sunday: i'm posting the short story. two weeks after that s5 officially begins. #queue queue

[weaselbeaselpants]

If I were a cartoon review youtuber, some of my videos would definitely be:

Underrated Animated films you should see vol. 1 - ongoing

Complete look at Skunk Fu! and all it's episodes

What's ACTUALLY wrong with Illumination films (spoiler: it's not the designs). And that video would probably have a sequel ironically unironically accusing Chris Meladandri of being a White Walker who rips out movies' souls.

Disturbing Animated Film Iceberg.

A calming, sweet short retrospective on The World of Peter Rabbit and Friends.

Killing off the idea of "endgame". Tho, tbf, I'm definitely going to be writing that thesis statement down someday. I guess in video format it'd be a big "did this series REALLY fall off cuz the creator catered to fans?" breakdown of a few shows.

A video about 9. Because of course I'd make something about 9.

Politically heavy (but not horror) animated films.

An essay explaining the difference between what I want to see in a story vs what's actually good in a story; and likewise the difference between what I personally do/don't find offensive and what's objectively offensive as a viewer.

The dichotomy and standards between different talking animal films.

A review about Mary and Max and why I like it but it's okay if other autists don't. which would be a broader video about how to listen to the opinions of demographics and minorities and not to treat any one as a hivemind.

Movies that I dislike but aren't actually bad.

Movies I love that aren't really all that good.

A deeper dive on my take that Steven Universe was always deeply flawed but having an otherwise working ending; where Star vs was a well-written show that utterly biffed it on the ending.

The Swan Princess is secret conservative propaganda.

The 31 dumbest things in Oogies Revenge.

Zero's Journey is the only good TNBC continuation.

13 Horror animated Feature Films. For Halloween, of course...

My issue with Dreamworks' stans and why I dislike How to Train You Dragon 2.

My issues with Anti v Proshipping. Def would be a multi part series explaining why I think most of the problem is just people really aggresively bulling one another -AND THEN, getting into heinous fandom shit that no one talks about and the ethics of children online and freedom of expression.

Prolly then would make an exclusive (cuz it's dirty) review abt the rights of r34 and adult artists and what they had to/have to put up with both from peers and websites banning explicit material.

What absolutely doesn't work about Pocahontas and Anastasia.

I'd do a series called "Spitball Re-haul" wherein I go through a revisioned show's premise and then explain all the reasons for the changes. I'd make:

How I'd rewrite The Owl House season 3.

How I'd rewrite Star vs the Forces of Evil "Cleaved".

How I'd rewrite Strange Magic.

How I'd rewrite Raya and the Last Dragon.

How I'd rewrite Seasons 4-8 of Friendship is Magic.

My tinfoil hat video on Disney trying to profit so much off of fans is hurting their bases.

Mapping out and analyzing different types of crossover fiction, their merits and their issues with story-keeping.

Mythological and cultural animated films.

and finally, for when I'd muster up the strength:

an HBomberGuy-type callout/deepdive into MysteriousMrEnter and Lily Orchard and how they've made cartoon reviews worse.

#cartoon #cartoon criticism #animation criticism #cartoon reviewers #animation review #critical fandom #the owl house critical #svtfoe critical #Steven Universe critical #mysteriousmrenter #mr enter #lily orchard

[fluffykitty149]

Does anyone else hate the episode Sophomore Slump?

Like when svtfoe originally came out with the third season I was super excited! I loved that show a lot and I was still reeling from seeing Star’s butterfly form.

When we got to Sophmore Slump I was intrigued by the title and thought a Marco centric story would be interesting. To see how he’s processed all of that’s happened. And apparently the process was turning into an egotistical jerk. It’s funny because I was more a fan of Star than Marco at the time and usually you’re less affected when a character who isn’t your favourite is written as jerk but even this irked me.

Maybe it’s because I haven’t watched in a while but that random boost of ego felt like it came quite literally out of nowhere. Marco was definitely gaining confidence in himself last season but it was more self assurance than anything else. Now they have him acting like a total jerk to everyone and for some reason being plagued by Mewnie but why?

He doesn’t seem to be experiencing any trauma from watching his friend supposedly die or being around when the King was overthrown. Maybe if they touched on that and showed that he was shaken up by what happened there and was just handling it badly maybe it could have worked better.

Maybe instead of the whole ‘best friend’ stuff with Jackie it could have been about how Marco is still trying to bury his insecurities instead of communicating honestly. Also did he and Jackie just never talk about what was said at the party? Maybe if it was written well Marco could have said something along the lines of he didn’t know for sure if it was true and didn’t want to jepordize Jackie and Star’s friendship over it without knowing but was too uncomfortable to talk about it, and then when the two finally did Star lied and said she didn’t so he figured it was just another assumption about them being a couple since they’re a male female friendship.

There are a lot of problems in the show ofc but I really hate what they did to Marco’s character.

#svtfoe #marco diaz #jackie lynn thomas #sophmore slump #svtfoe critical

[hughjidiot]

It genuinely hurts to go back and watch the early episodes of Star vs the Forces of Evil. At the beginning, it truly was a good show with great characters and an interesting plot that was also really damn funny. But rewatching with the knowledge of what the show will become and how it will end... shit.

It's like having a delicious dinner at a really nice restaurant, and then when you're done eating, the waiter puts on a pair of steel-toed boots and kicks you between the legs. It doesn't matter how good things had been up until that point; it kinda ruins the whole experience.

#hugh jidiot rambles #star vs the forces of evil #svtfoe critical

[piratedisney]

As much as I love Eclipsa and even had her on my blog name for such a long time, the writing on her is kinda weird because she's the one of the few characters that ever show sympathy for monster but the writing makes is feel like she only does it because she finds them hot, which isn't great.

#svtfoe critical

[calebscalamity]

Sometimes I think about Tomstar and how it had the potential to be an amazing ship with an excellent dynamic and character development akin to Lumity had it not just been used as bait for Starco. Felt like the writers were bending over backwards trying to add artificial relationship troubles instead of actually having Star and (to a lesser extent because he does develop on his own) Tom grow as a couple.

I mean, Star tended to act like a brat towards Tom most of the time, didn’t tell him about kissing Marco and then got mad when he called her out on it, left him in the magic dimension for days despite them only recently having broken up, and don’t even get me started on the stunt she pulled in Doop Doop. Star was a terrible girlfriend and Tom deserved so much better. The ship was treated as a plot device to prop up Starco, and as a Tomstar enjoyer I find that wasted potential to be simply unforgivable.

#svtfoe critical #tomstar #svtfoe salt #tomco beats both of them easily thou

[dappercritter]

ATTENTION STAR VS THE FORCES OF EVIL FANS!

I need YOUR help!

(Yes yours! I found a funny screenshot to get your attention and everything, see?!)

I'm putting together something about a certain character from the show while I work on the rewrite (with my good buddy @full-moon-phoenix who I'm sorry to tag-n-drag into this), and I need your help getting to the bottom of a mystery that might just help us all make sense of why the last season of the show was... you know... like that.

According to this bullet point from SVTFOE's What Could Have Been page on TV Tropes, the Season 3 finale was originally planned by Daron Nefcy and the team to be the series finale before the finale season was even green lit!

However--as you may notice when checking the page yourself--unlike some of the other details on the page, this one had no citation or link to trace back to the original interview for evidence. (Typical TV Tropes.)

I'm going to try and find the interview myself but with all the things I have to juggle, and search engines being as crappy as they are now, there's no guarantee I'll actually find the damn thing.

THAT'S WHERE YOU COME IN!

It's nothing really. Basically I just need you guys to let me know in the comments or in a reblog if you know where this interview is from or if you can find it.

If not, feel free to signal boost.

OK NOW LET'S SEE IF THIS WORKS BYEEEEEEE!

#star vs the forces of evil #svtfoe #svtfoe season 3 #svtfoe season 4 #star vs the forces of evil season 3 #star vs the forces of evil season 4 #meta #daron nefcy #cartoons #research #animation #disney tv animation #disney cartoons #svtfoe meta #svtfoe critical #(probably shouldn't use that tag knowing what i've seen on here but oh well I'm desperate) #ramblings of the critter #globgor

[notedgyanymore]

Sometimes I wonder why Steven universe had such huge critical community, not because the show doesn't have its faults but because other cartoons from the same time like star vs the forces of evil and adventure time had way more problematic content and had just as many if not more plot contrivances and, well, at least you can say that Steven universe didn't waste any of its time on meaningless love triangles.

#su critical #adventure time critical #svtfoe salt #svtfoe critical #Steven universe #I don't think that su is better than its contemporaries but is not worse either #also I don't hate love triangles #I just hate when they're poorly used and completely meaningless

[starlight-bread-blog]

Oh really, Daron Marco?

Putting aside the fact that Marco hasn't shown romantic feelings to Star at that time, and that it wasn't even hinted – there are evidence to support that this simply wasn't the case. Make what you will:

The Naysaya curse was to prevent the victim of it from confessing to their "one true love". But it didn't do that for Star, but Jackie.

Marco is forced to confesse who he has a crush on. The box flat out confirms that Jackie is his crush.

Janna spents 14 hours hypnotizing Marco out of having a crush on Star, which was proven to be effective. It didn't work due to the Blood Moon.

#anti starco #antistarco #anti-starco #starco critical #anti svtfoe #svtfoe critical #star vs the forces of evil critical #anti star vs the forces of evil

[sjbattleangel]

If people talked about ATLA the way they talk about Steven Universe, Star Vs. TLOK and She-Ra.

"So Aang just ran away and froze himself at the bottom of the ocean, leaving innocent people to be conquered by the Fire Nation? What a selfish coward! He has blood on hands!"

"Ugh! The stupid chauvinistic crap Sokka says! The creators are misogynists!."

"Man, Katara is such a Mary Sue! The way she grew into a waterbender was so unrealistic. Bad writing!"

"Toph is blind? But how can we tell? A blind person can never do THAT! Nope, sorry. Not good enough. Doesn't count as real representation."

"Zuko is an irredeemable, imperialist brat, too easily forgiven. He doesn't deserve a redemption arc. He should've been killed at the beginning. The creators clearly have a thing for "Draco In Leather Pants".

"The King of Omashu, Imprisoned, Jet, The Deserter, The Cave Of Two Lovers, Avatar Day, The Tales Of Ba Singh Se, ect. Pointless filler episodes with nothing to add. More examples of sunk-cost fallacy."

"Azula is a powerful young woman who slowly goes insane because Mommy and Daddy didn't love her enough? The creators hate women and want them back in the kitchens!"

"So we're shown that there're innocent people in the Fire Nation who don't support the war yet the Fire Nation are still the bad guys? Trying to earn woke brownie points much?

"Aang doesn't kill the Firelord but drains him of all his powers, ultimately sparing him!?! THE CREATORS ARE FASCIST SYMPATHIZERS!! OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!!"

#avatar: the last airbender #atla #avatar the last airbender #steven universe #star vs foe #star vs the forces of evil #tlok #the legend of korra #svtfoe #su critical critical #svtfoe critical critical #jokes #double standards #she ra #spop critical critical

[ultra-creepy-fucker-things]

CORRECTION: It was Eclipsa who said this, which is actually worst because she is the daughter of Solaria, ma'am, your mother was on a campaign of genocide against monsters as a whole as of a few years ago. This is not a grudge inherited from anyone's forefathers it is a recent situation. What the fuck.

Queen Comet's line about the Septarians holding on to the "grudges of their forefathers" is interesting to me, because we don't know exactly how old is considered old for a septarian, but this same book implies that Toffee was around at the same time as Eclipsa, which, if true, would mean he lived through the reign of Solaria, and an active, aggressive attempt to wipe out monsters that claimed lives no doubt in the high thousands, which is a completely reasonable thing to hold a "grudge" over. If Toffee as of Comet's reign wasn't especially old for a septarian, than that wouldn't be the grudges of their forefathers, it would be their grudges over shit that was done to them, and that's ignoring that the oppression of monsters didn't end when Solaria died and would've been ongoing when Comet took the throne. Comet's talking like she thinks the things their upset about were long over, when they weren't. Frankly if she was that disconnected, I'm not shocked that her attempts to negotiate peace ended poorly.

#toffee svtfoe #svtfoe #svtfoe critical