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sanstropfremir · 1 year
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just for fun, how would you stage taemin's waiting for? since he didn't perform it, i've seen many ppl here giving their takes, i want to know yours^^
oh HO what a question!!! hmmmmmmm
i think what i'd want to do with waiting for is to play up the dream elements that are in the lyrics. there' a lot of talk of appearing/disappearing trying to keep hold of something intangible etc, and so i'd either want to do something like what they did in film : kai for hello stranger, with the laser projector and smoke, OR in a more elabourate idea for actual performance, i'd want to build a whole bedroom setup and use pepper's ghost to create an illusion where he would actually be dancing with a 'ghost' (actually a projection of another dancer offstage. here's a demo of a group imitating the effect at the first theatre it was performed in in 1862, it's a very old style of optical illustion that uses a glass + light setup that can be done totally live and with no digital! the stage setup is pretty elabourate and although you can do it with much more sophisticated technology now (it's the same technique that was used to create 'hologram' tupac) so in theory one could do it at large venue like taemin's concerts normally are at, but actually what i would want to do is do a full staging of both parts of ngda like they were a play or an opera, and in a european style theatre with a smaller audience where you could actually do the whole technique the traditional way. one of the things that taemin really likes doing with his concerts is investing in new and unusual stage tech, and personally i think it would be a really interesting artistic challenge for him to use only OLD stage tech and to be constricted by the physical limitations of it. we've come to associate him with big arena shows and big spectacle in the last year and change before he left, and i want to pare all of that down and give him a chance to really flex both his performance and also how high concept his work really is.
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dearweirdme · 10 months
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I think there's an interesting discussion to be had about how marketing and promo can reasonably look differently for each member based on what it is they're trying to go for and achieve.
The issue is that Hybe has never treated Taehyung fairly, has always tried to dim his shine and has actively othered him since the beginning. Therefore, how Hybe ends up handling Taehyung's promo can't really be separated from this frustrating reality. At the end of the day we can't fully know what parts of it will be Taehyung's vision or the company's, unless something happens that directly opposes Taehyung's own spoken intent (e.g., Jungkook has actually talked about wanting to perform a solo concert, so if he never got to, we'd know that was the company doing him wrong).
I honestly feel a real tension here because I want the best for Taehyung, I believe the company holds him back, but I'm also trying not to assert my own vision and desires for him beyond what he actually wants for himself. I don't want to give the company a free pass on their bs and I think they need to be called out for a lot but I don't want to overstep or ask for things that don't actually fit Taehyung's own vision but then again I don't trust the company to truly actualize Taehyung's on vision so it becomes dizzying 😵‍💫 Where I end up landing is that the best thing for Taehyung when he releases his music is going to be us staying out of petty fights, associating only positivity to his name, and showing up to support his music to the best of our ability. I also think we can safely draw a line at any ARMYs claiming Taehyung doesn't care about streams because that's just never going to be true for an artist releasing their own music, so I'll gladly push back on ARMYs making excuses not to support him because of his promo.
Also, on the topic of gp appeal, I believe Taehyung has massive gp appeal on the whole, but I also agree that he seems inclined to pursue more niche styles of music than you'll hear on pop radio. I've always seen him more like an indie artist, while I think JK for instance is going to pursue more mainstream pop radio-friendly styles. But pop radio doesn't necessarily equate to gp appeal. On that note, maybe saying Taehyung isn't mainstream feels better than saying he's less gp-friendly, because I see being gp-friendly as an ability to appeal to a broader audience than just the context you're in and what naturally comes with that. For example, much of the SK gp doesn't even pay much attention to kpop; a kpop artist having a lot of kpop fans doesn't mean they appeal to the gp, then, and I believe Taehyung can and does powerfully appeal to the gp beyond kpop. I also believe Jungkook has gp appeal in his own right, as he'll naturally attract fans outside the kpop bubble too. But they have different lanes in which they do this.
Hi anon!
I understand your reasoning. I dislike how Tae has been portrayed too. He is so much more than what they made him out to be. Always the pretty one, never the one with depth. And I can understand how you have lost trust in the company because of that. I can see how, with the past in mind, you would be distrusting of the way things go now. I suppose a lot will be clearer once his album is released and we’ll be able to see how things are handled when Tae releases his own music.
I think you have landed in a very positive path to support Tae. Arguing does not help at all. Sending positive support into the world will.
I agree on the last part of your message. And yes, mainstream is probably a better way of putting it.
Thanks for your message. Very well laid out.
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otakebi-cam-wao · 6 months
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Produce 101 Japan The Girls ep 5 - by a harowota in real time
this time written on my phone!
Part 1: Elimination????
i spoiled me w friends cuz i started to follow the eliminated trainees on insta and twitter as they started to appear and post but forgot anyways
group introduccions are always nice specially with funny/cute poses and or phrases or gimmicks, or whatever
Kassa took out her Anju chara there
Omg Ao Haru posing as アオハル
i want to talk bout the style changes
i got the same reaction to Shizuku's blonde hair, Kaela
Kaela is kinda troll, love that energy lol (i should stop talking bout the trainers and the MC of the whole show)
okay, let's start the beheadings?
Part 2: Dance Battle
WAIT WAIT WAIT NAKASONE VS YUMEKI?!
i go for Nakasone cuz she's so mother but Yumeki is even a year younger than me
AAAAAAA TOGETHER DAMN
still Nakasone mother
RANDOM PLAY DANCE!!! OWO
oh so it depends of the year nice nice
let's see if i can recognize some (spoiled one)
2021? idk this one... ohhh the pd101 japan season 2
they're so happy
1985!!! no one thought they'd know Dacing Hero eat me up... okay
so cool Sakura (no gyaru)
2000!!!! RENAI REVOLUTION 21 OFC!!!!!!
Kassa didn't ran but danced from the class A side (my harowota hear is a bit dissapointed specially cuz Kokoro told her to go together and didn't)
Honoka and Rino? went to dance it
Nakasone proud somehow?
2010... heavy rotation ofc
Rimika did what i hoped Kassa did with rr21, ofc she knows it lol
almost everyone went running (good song and I don't like akb48, .... complex emotions with the video)
2020 ohhh.... it's kpop, i dunno, but it says wannabe
ohhh yumeki did the choreo
2023.... leap high was obvious lol
the ones who couldn't fit in the dance floor on their sides dancing ofc
now real battle by class, and genre (cute, sexy, wild)
they'll win sneakers!!!!
cute first
Sakura C class, Kagura F, Mana D, Rinon B, Yuuki A; wow Rinon mixed a bit of sexy i guess, cute Sakura... Mana cute but :/
Sexy now
Sae D, Honoka C, WOW NONOKA FROM F CLASS (awwww camera on baby Hina surprised, too much sexy for this baby to see(?)), Wow Moe B and Miu A they know for sure
WILD!!!!!
okay i saw, Tsukushi (A), Ranka (F), Keiko (B) quickly
Keiko is wild indeed
now Ayano from C WOW
LET'S GO TSUKUSHI
this is just time for the dancers of each class
Aruha nice!!!
nice Ranka
They're all so good, i go for Keiko or Aruha
mood Nakasone, OH MY GOD
winners?
B class!!! Dance queen Keiko!
the random leap high jump was amazing
THEIR NEW SHOES!!!!
awww Keiko's "minna aishiteru" after they thanked her
Part 3: ok now elimination? or well rankings
i know the one i was worrying bout got into the saved ones
oh 49th Mana (can't like her :c but let's go "grandma"), 48th Kanno Miyu, i shouldn't say these tbh... so I won't
iiiiiigh! Ranka got saved :/ she has Nomura Minami looks but her vibes throw me off a bit, good for her tho (I'm a supporter of everyone in some way)
okay, so i really clap clap Uchiyama Rin cuz of getting a bad throat and pulling such vocals
a twin (Mikoto) is in!!!! is the other twin (Kotone) in as well?
ahhh nice Yurara!!!! (I'm saying each position anyways somehow)
YESSSSSS THE OTHER INTP GIRL I LIKE (lower than how i like her but yes!!) HARUKA!!!! so cute and looks so ADHD (but shy) creature on the stage of the ones who passed!!!
words from some top 49 to 41 okay okay
lol Uchiyama, you're not allow to go back home soon...
cutie Yurara!!!!!
ok 40 to 31...
where's Kotone
KOTONE 39!!! (YOU'RE GETTING OVER YOUR NEE-SAN)
SHIZUKU 37!!!! YES, DESERVED, I WANT TO LISTEN TO HER VOCALS MORE, SO OPERISTIC operastic?
Fujimoto Ayaka is the hard time seifuku no manequin team leader... right? ah yes deserved 36 with all that
... i don't like Rimika, idky but she passed
YOSHIDA HANA 33 DESERVED (obsessed with her "narcissistic my god i love it" from their love dive performance)
Husky voice 32?! MOMOKA YES!!! YES!!!! YES!!! (btw weird but interesting hair styling)
Miyu 31, she was such a nice neesan for her group, deserved
awwwww Ayaka u gonna make me cry, "pien" as S. Miu said in the mbti lab
THIS IS TAKING SO LOOOOOOONG
a take bout an eliminated girl i remember
Ameri deserved better (cuz we can't vote overseas, and she knows it, liked a comment where she was told it was unfair to have eng subs but no overseas votes)
Part 4: social experiment in Korea?
the girls helping an small baby girl
HIGH QUEENS FIRST
JUERI YOU SAW THE GIRL!!!!!
ok, bby had to walk to them to talk, then they became nice nice nee-san
high queen knows korean, ofc; 3 minutes?
Jueri sensed it was a prank before the dokkiri daiseko paper was shown, nice
oh they know Korean cuz dramas lol
REMEMBER ME TIME!
i feel like Ayaka might be the quick one to act?...
oh it was Rino
they started to play w bby
all got pranked and no one thought was the bby the prank
AOHARU!!!!
oh so Nana wants to be a teacher, she might react quicker, Tsuzumi will make her laugh i have the feeling
Nana immediately took her hand
all yelling to ask for her mom
ohhh an unrelated person got in so run for the prank paper
they're so noisy and are looking for the cameras lol!!!!
Miss Japan
so Mana decided to talk to staff while Chiharu takes care of her talking and playing
NANA TEAM
they decide to look for the mother nice
5 minutes looking around awwww Serina? pick her up to not get her tired
lol the prank paper
they laugh
so worried cuz bad at korean
Part 5: more ranking
30 to 21 ok
29 the gyaru!!!! nice
SAKATA KOTONE!!!!!!!!! 28!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!! MY F TO B GIRL!!!!! and good leader
Hina bby 25 she became the little chick already, she broke her egg shell
Kitazume Sakura 22, she was really cute, and powerful, deserved!
YUI 21!!!!! YES YES, LEADER NICE NEESAN, NICE VOCALS.... also the way she was holding hands with Koto waiting who would be 21st, CUTE
20 to 12 ohhhh a longer one
Joa 20, deserved, tho I don't like her enough, VERY VERY DESERVED!
Kokona chubby cheeks 19, surprised me on performance nice nice
idk if I'd vote for Tsukushi (18) to get higher, probs cuz mic incident
OWO RINON 17 amazing, I'm amazed, really deserved
Mena 16 is so deserved, she's so idol bright, she has that thing that makes you oshi her (not my oshi)
taking advantage of Kitazato Rio 15 to say... her new hairstyle makes me think a bit of Nishida Shiori from BEYOOOOONDS on her face
NAGOMI 13!!!! MY BABY IS 13 SO DESERVED SHE COULD BECAME THE COOL OF THE SONG BEING SO CUTE AAAAAA BBY!!!!!!!
Keiko 12, yes you see her and you smile, she's so funny and amazing deserved
Mena talking so idol bright! so cute! so oshi-able
I'm so proud of bby Nagomi, wanna hug her
I'm at 1hr 19 minutes?! wow one hour more to watch yet
Part 6: members choose tops
top 3 personality
so 3 chose Honoka, she's funny the few things I've seen, i agree, she's ENFP, right? expected, she's top 3
Kokoro top 2 cuz nice nee-san and someone who listens, nice
top 1 is???? Moe ohhhhh, dunno what to say i think I haven't feel like I've focused a bity bit on her
top 2 beauties?
top 2 S. Miu i can see that very well, no comments tbf
yes Miu, as an eye lover(?) you have very beautiful eyes
lol she cringed at herself after that scene thingy
ohhh top 2 was a tie, makes sense
Sasaki Kokona, i agree she's captivating even if I don't want to look at her lol
okay top 1....!!!!
goddess vibe?!
Nano, yeah i agree, like damn girl is beautiful and captivating
she doesn't want to do the line thingy
the profile pics tho for Nano and Miu... not helping
Part 7: final rank?
so the 11 fitting the debut group?
yes the top 11
wait i know this, well I'm supposed to (i know top 1 tho)
Aita Rin top 11 was surprising (i have her in my top 11) so deserved as leader, hard worker, soul strength, team mindset, all, wanna hug her cuz i feel PROUD of her
Koto 10 is so amazing! so wow, no words just WOW feelings
AYANEEEEEEEEEEEE 9!!!!! I LOVE HER, SHE'S (with Momona) MY TOP 1!!!! my INTP tism creature looking songtress with huge off stage on stage gap girly!!!! YESSSSSS (her talking is so 🥹)
Nano 8 nice nice sleepy but nice beautiful nee-san
Sasaki Kokona 7 again captivating aura, no wonder she got so many votes
cute, she says she doesn't think is good enough for that rank
Tsuzumi 6 makes me so ajsjjsjsjshsj :D she's so cute energetic full of emotion bby and good performer... awwww she got so emotional towards AoHaru, so cute bby bright smile bby
Suzu 5 nice, she has a something i can see but don't get to my top 11
cute, just cute, no comments
i forgot the top 4-2 order, i know the ones there
Kaela hurry up!!!!
ofc Ran, Miu, Kokoro and Momona fight the 1st place (I know :D who has it) WHICH WAS THE ORDER!!!!
4 is?! Miu okay okay, so then... Ran, Kokoro Kassa, right?
Miu get out of my top cuz... idk... but maybe she was evily edited... so it feels like she's a diva (as some friends said) i want to think is all due to this edit, and being ISTP cold
Ran 3 right, i liked her a lot and a friends is doing propaganda for her
cute girl, amazing, like her low voice, she seems funny but not so WOW funny
so now is Kokoro, I just know that already
but nice that rebloom where fighting the top 1, starting with their idol performance
plus both (mainly Momona cuz time, i mean since she was 13 in angerme and 12 in hello pro kenshuusei, she has like 8 years experience!) are pros
"Kokoro-chan aishiteimasu" (not in shipping way) beautiful
i want what these two have
such strong friendship
so well, Momona 1, Kokoro 2, already knew that
LET'S GO KASSA!!!!!!
they're like so proud of each other!!!!! mainly Kokoro of Momona
it feels so amazing to see Kassa going up those stairs to the 1st place seat!!!!
ok top 50 is missing, who got the cut position?!
4 fighting the place 50
oofff this is hard to see
Karen, Aruha, Shion and Misaki
i want them all (yes, i forgot who didn't got there that i follow on insta)
i think Shion didn't
how low was Jueri btw? (liked her voice)
ok 50th is?!
Karen!
i wanted Aruha...
but it's okay
oh god, i feel so sad for the ones who didn't make it, i hope some angencies contact them soon
they all deserved to pass
WAIT!!!! FUKA GOT ELIMINATED
NOOOOOOO FUKAAAAAAAAAA
wow, Jueri got 92nd going down 15 places
third INTP girly Tabuchi Miu got 86th (tbh, i didn't saw her a lot, but sad cuz INTP too)
AMELI 79? i swear if overseas have voted she would have made it to top 50
the Moron Anon (joke joke, her name is Moro Anon, such a weird name) 74th... sad cuz she surprised me at the group battle
Iyota Hana 71... ok
you're not telling me Fuka didn't make it cuz of a 10 places gap?! ... pien
Part 8: coments random cuz didn't pay attention to the thingy with songs at the end
Kassas short hair is beautiful, i wonder if she donated her hair again...
sadly they cant sns cuz rules... so we won't know... not yet
expecting what we'll see next week... or on thursday, deppending if I can't handle the need to watch...
I'm wondering why they can't change a bit more the twins' look, it's so hard to tell them apart
someone said one have thicker and other thinner bangs and I'm like "HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU KNOW THAT"
OH NOOO THE HUGS AND CRYING AT THE END
is sadder that whole groups got eliminated...
they became such good friends apparently
now i wonder what will happen if one twin is eliminated later
OH NOOO AYANE CRYING NOOO, DEAR!!!!
oh that's all...
there was a lot
well, eliminated B class girls at least get new sneakers
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mini-yoongers · 11 months
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i'm not saying if you loved ratka and her styling we can't be friends but.......
we can't be friends. lmao.
that woman was such an insult to TXT. the five most incredibly beautiful and talented boys in the industry and she couldn't even figure out how to compliment their figures and make them look good. i am so fucking glad Huening Kai is free of that misery. no wonder he was always dressing in baggy clothes that hid his body, when every time ratka dressed him she put him in pants too small and shirts that barely fit. honestly i resent that woman so deeply for putting him through that.
clothes are so incredibly important to how a person feels and i can't imagine trying to perform dynamic choreo like they do in clothes that aren't comfortable.
now, of course, i would never claim to know what is going on in Kai's head. i respect that all my idols have a separate life i don't have access to and it's not healthy to project, but it's not a far cry to say the styling was part of why he seemed so off in later gbgb era. Kai is one of my top idols, i pay a lot of attention to him and how he looks/seems in terms of his mood and health. there was a distinct change in his behavior/vibe during the last half of that era, and then as soon as it ended he perked up again.
honestly i don't know why so many stylists in kpop have such a frigging hard time making their groups look good. i'm sure it's a harder job than i think, but a little research goes a long way. ratka always gave me the impression that she had no interest in growing as an artist, and obviously NEVER researched styling a different body type. sometimes i really do wonder if the sweet mirage fits were the final straw and BH actually fired her.
i'm sorry but those outfits.... were so horrible. like. you have to WORK HARD to make TXT NOT look good. i'll also never forget those fucking AMA fits. god.
i'm just.... i'm so glad they're free. i'm so relieved. i'm so excited to see their styling moving forward and to see Huening Kai finally in clothes that suit his figure and allow him to be comfortable and at ease while performing.
/end rant.
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theninthdoor · 1 year
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bahiyyih || a look into 2023 (part II); tarot reading
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(In Part I: General View of Her 2023 ⭒ Her Role/Attitude  ⭒ Swords || Mental State.)
⭒ Cups || Emotional State:
cards: ten of cups, six of cups
Now we're back with some positivity! Emotionally, 2023 will be a great year for her, even though she's dealing with communication issues. Both of these cards reference family connections, so 1) she could be relying on them more than ever before; 2) she's wanting to spend more time with them; or 3) we will see her promoting with her brother more often OR even collaborating with him (on tiktok or some collab stage, for example). There is also a possibility that she could be reconnecting some old friends or work colleagues, and rekindling those friendships/partnerships will then bring her immense joy. Overall, it's just a period of great emotional contentment, really. She's feeling loved, valued and cared for; she has a strong support system to help her through tough times.
⭒ Pentacles || Career/Financial State:
So, here's the thing: when I first pulled the cards for this reading (some 2 weeks ago), I got… drum roll… the 3 of pentacles rx + 4 of pentacles. Those were the EXACT SAME cards that I got for both Chenle and Jaehyun in this section of their readings! At this point, I can only assume that this is an industry problem, not a NCT/SME problem. With that in mind, I pulled some clarifications cards on this issue, and this is what I got: five of pentacles, judgement, three of wands reversed. Basically, we're seeing most groups having a lot of trouble getting enough/proper recognition for their work this year. They're not getting enough opportunities; money and time are being wasted; the public isn't buying what they're selling… things aren't looking pretty over here. Companies will then start to shift their groups' image/sound/performance style more drastically to fit into the trends, which will leave the artists feeling very frustrated and uninspired. No matter how hard they work, the public only cares about a couple of particular things and nothing more! If these groups don't have those things, they won't pay any attention to them. So, similarly to what we saw with the NCT members, Bahiyyih will also be dealing with a lot of setbacks and confusion regarding her career. Nothing seems to be working; no one knows what to do or what the public really wants; they are doing things just for the sake of doing them… I don't know what else to say about this, to be honest. They are part of the machine, and the machine is out of control.
If you guys ever come across another reading on this topic, please send me the link! I would love to know what other readers have to say about this + the changes in the kpop industry in 2023. Every time I take a look at this topic, it's always a big, confusing mess… maybe it's a ME problem… at this point I don't even know anymore… (you can also send me your own opinions! I'd love to know what you think)
⭒ Wands || Energy/Creative State:
cards: two of wands, five of wands
Ok, so- she will be making lots of plans for her future, and deciding on which paths to take; what projects to give up on; what projects to put at the top of her list; etc. It's not really a year of action, exactly, but moreso a year of making decisions and thinking outside the box. She's not limiting herself to what she knows - she's exploring new possibilities; new ways to express her creativity. She's being very collaborative, too, and sharing her own ideas with others (instead of just following along with what they want without giving her opinion). However, there's also the sense here that external influences (people's opinions/personalities/wants and needs) could make it a little difficult for her to follow through with her plans right away or as she would like. There's just a lot going on around her; she's being pulled in all kinds of directions. This could also be talking about her group, though, since she's still quite attached to them (professionally) and venturing on her own in the industry won't be all that easy, considering group schedules + her company's priorities and desires. Nonetheless, there's a lot of fire in her! She wants to act and to put forward her wishes for the future. She's ready to compete and prove herself! (I also wonder if there will ever be talks of her/the group being in some kind of competition again?? I'm not too confident in this, though! Just a thought that came through...)
(Disclaimer: all readings are alleged and for entertainment purposes only.)
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mygirljunhee · 1 year
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bias game
tagged by @pinkhyojin - thank you 💖
pick 10 of your biases (or as many biases as you have and then fill in the rest of the spots with idols you like) and number them 1-10. then answer the questions below. try not to look at the questions before you make your list!
Wonho
Mijoo
Kei
Leedo
Felix
Hwanwoong
Moonbin
Ryu Sujeong
Junji
Kihyun
Questions
1. Between 7 and 5, who did you bias first?
Moonbin! Even though I learned about Stray Kids first (I got into kpop about a week before Back Door was released - I didn't know about Astro until March 2021) - Moonbin's always been my #1. Stray Kids... I think my bias order was something like Han > Bang Chan > Felix > Bang Chan > Changbin & Felix
2. Between 2 and 6, who are you more attached to?
Oh... this one's easy... Hwanwoong my beloved I'm so sorry - the answer's obviously Mijoo. I'd take a bullet for her.
3. If you were to spend the day with either 3 or 1, who would you choose and what would you do?
Now this. This question's painful. Part of me wants to say Wonho because it's Wonho, but...
Kei. Probably hang out, go out to eat, and watch horror movies, because - one of my fave fun facts - she loves horror/ghost movies? Which are my absolute fave. Literally would have never guessed looking at her.
4. what is your favorite physical feature about 9?
HAIR! Long hair! His mermaid hair means the world to me.
5. What is your favorite part of 6’s personality?
He's just a silly lil guy! I literally just watched a video where - he wasn't even the focus of it, but he just pops in to bully Leedo. Love him.
6. If you were to tell 8 anything you wanted, what would you tell them?
I'd tell Ryu Sujeong that her music is incredible, phenomenal, some of the best work I've ever heard. I'd tell her to please for the love of god keep making full albums. Love the indie vibe she's going for right now - but I'd kinda want to see if she'd ever go and do something like Tiger Eyes again - so I'd find a way to bring that up.
7. Between 1 and 2, whose closet would you raid?
Love everything Mijoo wears but let's be real I'm not fitting into any of that - so Wonho.
8. What is a style that you want to see 3 try?
THIS IS THEE QUESTION!!! Kei is sooo amazing & super brave because she's tried many styles outside her comfort zone! Like her trouble maker performance on Artistock? Loved that. I don't think she's the best at it - but I'd love to see it again. Honestly I feel like her style jumping is going to be her downfall in Queendom Puzzle - but I'm so pumped for it. Really hoping for another performance like wish you were gay on Queendom 1. I think she'd kill something like that now. I think Kei in a dark concept would just be fun to see - I know she was in the Death Note musical so like... She was styled that way, but it'd be interesting to see her cover Pixy/Dreamcatcher/PinkFantasy or oooh VIXX. Kei VIXX cover when.
9. Between 5 and 4, who are you closer to in height?
Leedo! He's an inch taller than me.
10. Between 10 and 9, whose music do you like the best?
Oh god I have no clue. Monsta X and Onlyoneof both have really big hits & misses for me. I will say I liked Kihyuns solo work more than Junji's.... I'm gonna go with Monsta X. tagging: @shiningwonho @kingleedo @flops @kingdomtual @dongkwan @sanstropfremir @sapphicshawol @alexanderfuckingwept @kafffeesatz @seohotonin
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Idk why something always seems a bit off about txt performances for me. Maybe bc they don't always seem to fit their concept? Or some of them fit it more than others? Sometimes they don't seem like a cohesive group or like there's something missing. They're so popular and keep getting more successful, so I always try to check out their new music, but I can't seem to get the hype. Most other successful bgs I understand why people see the full package in them, even if I don't stan, but it doesn't click with me with txt and I don't find their performances very memorable. I hope this doesn't come across as me hating on them bc I really want to like them since they seem nice
I think every single time TXT drop a new song or I watch their performances I comment on this. TXT don't really have star appeal to me. There's nothing exceptionally charming or attractive about them. They don't particularly stand out in variety shows, interviews, or their own content; none of the members, even Yeonjun, stands out to me individually outside the stage; their styling is super boring and always the same, not to mention uncool; their choreos are too repetitive and fast paced - I never have the time to appreciate anything since the boys are always transitioning from one move to the next at a steady pace, so nothing sticks out to me, with the choreos lacking dynamic, uniqueness, and being unmemorable, no single member ever having a point move or something that makes me remember them; their performances lack spontaneity and charisma too - they're just well rehearsed but not alive, exciting, hype, different. To me, TXT are a very typical boy group. They aren't any different from most groups who don't have much of a say in their artistic vision, and TXT do have songwriting credits on most albums, but even other groups have a bigger identity and ownership of their group. IVE aren't particularly involved in their artistic output, but already have a stronger brand and a more distinct and recognizable image than TXT. You know who IVE are and the members generally embody the concept of the group well without it seeming fake or too much like a concept. TXT, on the other hand, mostly feel like a group put together by Big Hit with the members just following orders and trying out the concepts they're assigned. It feels more like a business venture and less like a group. TXT have their own image and sound, and the members' bonds bring the group together, but, at the same time, it's like the group doesn't really belong to them and the members could be replaced to create a new TXT, like the concept of TXT is stronger than the group itself. I like the boys, but I can't imagine them ever blowing up. They're not memorable or engaging enough to me. SKZ's success makes so much more sense imo.
I'm not hating on them either, because I like them, but they're missing something for me too.
Thanks for the ask! I like being ask about other kpop groups!
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fff777 · 8 months
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The more I think about it, the more frustrated I get about Winwin's situation.
Originally, my thought was that "I've been through the Exo and Lay situation, I've seen it all." But the more I think about it, Lay and Winwin's situations are very different.
Warning: This is a ramble just to get things off my chest.
At the base of it all, I think that Yixing benefited much more from SM than Sicheng ever did and ever will be able to.
Yixing did start dancing as a youngster, and his dancing ability only grew as he began training with SM. The style of dancing that he studied would have probably been more of a hip hop style, which would have been in line with Yixing becoming an idol.
During his time with SM, we know that Yixing also developed his music skills a lot, both singing and composing. By the time Yixing left SM, he was very much a well-developed idol who was proficient in singing and dancing.
Sicheng's background in Traditional Chinese dance is well-documented. He was always a top student in his dance academies. You can see here for a list of his accomplishments. SM could never have helped him improve on his skills in Traditional Chinese dance. So where could SM have helped him? In developing his other skills, while emphasizing his pre-existing talents. The way I see it, Sicheng could really have made something special if he could develop a kind of fusion style, something that could still showcase Traditional Chinese elements while still fitting with some of the popular music and dance styles.
Unfortunately, Sicheng is currently known as the neo with little to no lines. Having watched some of NCT 127's earlier videos, I don't think Sicheng was ready for NCT at debut. His language skills weren't quite there, but I also felt that his dance didn't fit the style of the other members. Later on, Sicheng's Korean improved, and he got better at hip hop. But how does that serve him? Yes, him being better at hip hop dancing is an extra skill that can be helpful in the entertainment industry, but that is a skill that many other idols have. Compare that to how many traditional Chinese dancers are known in mainstream media, and internationally. Basically, I don't think SM took advantage of Sicheng's talents, nor did they give him enough training to be a top idol? They just trained him like a regular trainee instead of using his strengths. And that's surprisingly considering what I've heard about the lengths that SM went to to recruit him.
The reason that I'm frustrated is that while Yixing has had some opportunities to shine with SM (granted, they were limited), Sicheng has had fewer.
When Yixing was finally given the spotlight in Lucky One, or even in Love Me Right, it was amazing. I was like !!!! that's the boy!!!!! He's killing it!!!!!
The only time I have felt that was during Sicheng's performance with Ten, dancing to Lovely. That's contemporary dance, not even traditional Chinese dance, but it so well showed off how elegant Sicheng can be, when most of the audience he's marketed to (idol fans) just think of him as a cute and pretty boy. Yes, he is that, but like...he'd worked his entire life in traditional Chinese dance. And it's such a waste to not show that off. That makes him special! (Like how the ballet dancers in kpop are asked to show off their skills)
Otherwise, in Winwin's performances, he's often been relegated to have few lines, to having little screentime. And I get it, his skills aren't compatible with kpop as much as the NCT golden boys. SO WHY DID SM WANT HIM SO BAD!!?!??!
The reason I'm frustrated is that I'm usually a fan of groups coming together. I would love for the Exos to express love for Yixing publicly. And I understand that it won't happen because of how Exo is.
In a similar vein, I know that the NCT members love Winwin. Because of the way that NCT is set up, even though Winwin doesn't really promote with 127 anymore, he is still technically a member of NCT, and they're still able to interact that way. But whenever Winwin is with NCT, I can't help but think about how he's going to be shafted to the back again.
I'm frustrated because I don't think being with NCT and SM is good for Sicheng anymore. Being with Exo and SM was still somewhat good for Yixing because his goals were in making music and popular style dancing, all of which SM excels at. But what can Sicheng learn from SM if they're not going to train him, or work with him to find something that works better for him?
They had years to work on that, years to showcase Winwin not only with 127 but also with WayV. But they did not use it to their advantage.
From what I've gathered, Winwin graduated from Beijing Dance Academy and then was admitted to Central Academy of Drama. So it looks like he was intent on pivoting his career from dancing to acting. And now in China, he's finally acting in dramas.
And it made me think that...in China he's more on track to reach these goals. There's little he can get from SM now, other than the international fame, I suppose. And I do admit that being with SM and NCT has brought him a fame that he probably would not have gotten even if he had become a mainstream actor in China, as the kpop global market is currently huge. But if his place in NCT isn't going to change, if he isn't going to get more lines (and singing/rapping training), if he isn't going to get more screentime, I feel like he's going to get more fulfillment from his position in the Chinese entertainment industry.
Tl;dr:
Yixing' skill set was more consistent with that of a typical idol, so he grew a lot by going through SM's normal idol training program.
Sicheng already had a pre-existing skill set of traditional Chinese dance which is very different from popular dancing, so the normal idol training program was never going to work for him. Still, SM did not work with him in a way that would show off his skills, instead just putting him through the regular idol training program and then shafting him to the back because (surprise!) the idol training program didn't really expand his skill set in a way that made him shine.
All things considered, I'm still going to follow NCT's new comeback, I'm still going to pay attention to Winwin. But I think I'm ready for the separation, whether or not it'll be officially announced.
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hello frankie!!!
aah i'm glad you received it! tumblr often eats up asks or notifications so i'm not too surprised lol
i had a feeling you already knew day6 since you like kbands lol shoot me is just so good. as for btob, missing you is just one of those songs i can't skip it's been on my top 100 tracks for like 3 years (so since the first time i heard it lol) and i really recommend their most recent music (as a quartet and then as a full group).
i hope you've had time to listen to the songs, i enjoyed discovering the ones you mentioned 🥰 i actually already had flowering by lucy and hoppipola's cover of creep but i hadn't listened to them in a long time so it was nice to go back to them (i love that hoppipola makes long songs it's so rare). the guitar solo in montage is insane and i have a mutual who's really into yonghoon and he really has an amazing voice so i ended up listening to the whole album!
the dreamcatcher's concert was my first kpop concert (and it was so fun even if i was on my own)! i started listening to kpop like a year before covid hit so by the time i was enough of a fan of groups to consider going to their concert they had stopped touring (or they did online concerts which were technically my first concerts lol) - hopefully there'll be more! what about you, have you been to any concert?
oooh i knew hweseung could play guitar well but i had never seen that performance, it's so nice! i love their lol medley too (love the vid and that dongsung got to sing) but aside from that my faves are probably their live don't cry cover and their don't start me now and leave the door open covers, i really wish they could be on spotify so i could listen to them more easily (seunghyub and hweseung also have great solo covers!) but i think it's already really cool that they have full videos for them with different sets and styling to fit the song, it's liek they really make the songs theirs
as for my holidays traditions, i celebrate christmas 🎄 when i lived with my parents we used to put up the christmas tree together with my brothers but now that i live on my own i don't have enough space to have a tree lol so i'll be going back to my family this weekend to celebrate together 🥰 and other than that i took part in a christmas market at my church (we sell handmade cards and other stuffs as well as some food so that's always nice) and i also really like finding presents for everyone in my family in the weeks leading up to christmas. when it comes to new year's eve i used to do a movie evening with my family but i'll be working that day so i won't go back and i don't know yet what i'll do probably a movie evening of my own! what about you?
and now it's already time for my last question (next time you'll get a notification from me, it'll be your gift!): if you went to an nflying concert, what are the songs you'd like on the setlist?
your secret nfia ✨
i know what you mean 😔 it's a gamble sending asks sometimes. haha but thankfully i got the last ask, and this one too!
so far, i've listened to btob's newer releases (i just let the eps/albums play while i was working earlier!) some of the nct 127 songs - namely favorite and simon says - were familiar! i feel like i listened to parts of those songs. i love the chill vibes for gold dust 🥺 i also got the chance to listen to kihyun's ep, and ended up loving youth too 💛 i'll probably end up listening to the rest of the song recs while i work again. thank you for the recs 🥺💛
i also love that hoppipolla has longer songs too! i feel like it really lets the instrumentalists play around and showcase themselves more~ whoa that's cool! o: and i agree, yonghoon's voice is just *chef's kiss* was there a particular song that left an impression when you listened to the album?
aww that's a bit of poor timing getting into kpop 😔 but i hope the pandemic/quarantine period gave you the time to get into other groups! i actually attended one of the seventeen stops in north america this year during their world tour, and that was my first concert ever. it was so much fun 😭 i also hope there will be more opportunities to see seventeen again / and other groups of course! you said you saw dreamcatcher in their europe tour so i'm assuming you're from there/near europe 👀 unless you traveled to see them ofc. have there been any announcements for n.flying near you? i know they announced a north america one this january! as much as i want to attend, the nearest stop is still a bit far from where i live ;-;
i had to look up the don't cry cover and wow??? their vocals are insane, and hweseung's range is 😲 the rock vibes were very strong. i love don't start now too!! the bass line is so good 😭 leave the door open was great too! haha it's hard to choose fave covers because n.flying always does above and beyond with their arrangements.
it's always nice to spend time with family during the holidays 💛 sorry about the tree LOL the christmas market sounds interesting!! what gifts did you get your family! ah it sucks when work gets in the way of festivities 😔 i also spend christmas with the family! we normally have a big extended family party, but we held off on that during the pandemic so this will be the first time we'll be doing something big in a long while.
hmm setlist... i would definitely want video therapy on there, just because of that one live clip. everything down to the special effects was just great, i would love to see that live! moonshot as well, and of course their recent cb i like you! mainly because that's my first comeback with n.flying as a proper n.fia ☺️ how about you? o:
i can't wait to see the gift!! thank you for the fun conversations 🥺 i hope your week is going well 💛
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AHHHH!! yes mx + suits 💓💗💓 we love to see it. Also, Shownu with his suit croptop has really awakened something in me but shhh this is between us. You are so right. The cohesiveness of how mx look on stage without being a carbon copy of each other is great. The stylists are amazing. Now that is awards season, what has been your fave mx awards performance? OR your ult groups awards performance. I love watching live performances so if you have any recs pls 🤲🏽🤲🏽🤲🏽 -🎄
I'm sorry for bombarding your inbox but I have a lot of feeling. THAT KYUN RED LEATHER LOOK AH! did you see the bts footage of Kim Shinyoung's radio show from the same day and changkyun was having a hard time tying up the bow 🥰 I love all of your choices. I just don't like for some lapels for their button up shirts are unnecessarily large. But big yes to everything. For Kihyun, I like for their j-promos, they dress him up like a Youth Pastor or Substitute teacher. idk i kinda love it🤫🤫 -🎄
they really are just a dynamic and always well-fitted group on stage! with their recent tour(s) and the more royal / uniform looking jackets those also were whole ass looks. like damn they really carry the mantle of the kpop men™️ so well and never put on a bad look or show anymore! and the way it's always individualised too (like kihyun and changkyun and their cropped jackets .... sorry for being the shortest) which makes them fun to look at by themselves! also same with their j-promos, i always enjoy that they are a little bit of an antithesis to the whole mx brand in sk and how there's a bit more freedom to the styling! also love the japanese alligator styling, who let them out of their p.e session / the local fila store?
my definite favourite award show performance from mx was their beast mode / love killa performance for mma's 2020! the whole team of 'love's madness'. red lights and hyungwon's intro, their live vocals and rapping through both songs, the table and props, the dramatic editing, the whole vibe ... it was just top tier across the board! no notes! and another, though not really an award show as a year end show, was the shownu / mingyu / yugyeom collab stage. my heart for monsteen 7 ❤️‍🩹
besides that my fave award show performances are svt's getting closer at the 2018 mama's + their fear performance in 2019 + their left & right / home;run in 2020. they just always bring it. and then of course the iconic shinee sherlock performance from the gda's. an evergreen! another fave is taemin's door performance in 2017 and his and sunmi's shared stage in 2019.
those would be it i think! what are your ult groups / fave mx performances, anon? i hope you have a great week! ☺️
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bonny-kookoo · 3 years
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JJK: Fictional Happiness
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In which Jungkook, youngest of Kpop Group and werewolf Pack BTS, finds his mate at his own concert; just to learn that reality is nothing like the movies - and that not everyone is blindly after him and his name.
Tags/warnings: werewolf! AU if it wasn't obvious already lol, angst, there's so much angst Jesus, romantic kook, kinda selfish kook though, shy!reader, anxiety, medication mention, therapy mention, panic attacks, idol!Jungkook, slow burn, strangers to eventual friends to lovers/mates, insecurities, bad habits, kind of tsundere! Jk, Impatient kook, alpha!kook, omega!Reader, swearing, reader doesn't like him a lot at first just as a heads up, realistic approach- meaning she won't just fall head first right away like nuh-uh we're wearing seatbelts on this ride yall, smut in future chapters
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The job that he does has become more like a routine for him than anything else. He's used to it, knows what to expect, doesn't have any stage fright anymore like he did when he'd just started. It's all become normal, and yet, the adrenaline is all the same each night.
As Jimin and Jin chase each other on the stage, he has to laugh to himself; the playful banter between the 0ackmates amusing everyone around them as they almost tackle one another.
Growing up, all he's ever known was his pack.
Hes left his home and family behind at an early age to pursue his dream, but never could he'd ever imagined his life to turn out like this. And as he walks on stage with his mic in his hand, he feels like he's home- at least at first he does.
It's not as hot outside as yesterday, he notices as he walks onto the stage.
And yet, he feels itchy; like his clothes don't fit, like his skin is suffocating. It's frustrating, and it makes it hard to concentrate, as he tries to shrug it off. He walks around, unable to stand still, and its a bit easier at the right corner of the stage. It doesn't feel as stuffy here, he thinks, as he decides to just stay there.
He doesn't spot you until the wind manages to blow your scent straight towards him.
It hits him all at once, that feeling, that suddenly craving, as if he's missing something so terribly bad that he wants to curl up and cry- but at the same time he's restless because where are you?
And then he spots you; right there, near the front, with those big sparkling eyes of yours, and his inner alpha won't shut up again as he spots you too.
>>There she is. Looks at her- she's perfect, isn't she? I knew we'd find her.<<
And jungkook can't help but agree. You're absolutely stunning, even though he can see you're wearing barely any makeup at all, and your choice of clothing is set on comfort instead of style. But it all fits so well into what he'd always wanted in a mate- and the fact that you're a fan makes it all the better for him. Because that means, he's not going to have to work for it much- you're basically already his, aren't you?
At least he thinks so, because, who wouldn't want to be Golden Maknae Jungkook's mate?
But it all doesn't matter at the end of the day because as soon as he walks backstage, he realizes that in his euphoria he's forgotten a key fact. He's got no idea who you are, has no clue where you'll be standing at the concert tonight-
But as he gets onstage, glowing eyes eagerly searching, he can't believe his own luck; because there you are again, big eyes reflecting the stage lights as they make them glow. His alpha feeds off of your attention, as he performs more energetically than ever before- putting on a show, just for you, because that's what he should do right?
But when he walks backstage after the concert, he's not greeted by the sight of along the security guards- they're alone, without you, and he feels instantly irritated by it. "Jungkook-ssi.." they say, careful as to not set the young alpha inside him off. "She didn't want to." They say.
And for the first time, both him and his alpha as well are absolutely speechless.
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serafilms · 3 years
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enhypen with an idol s/o !
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↳ pairing – enhypen x gn!idol!reader
↳ genre – fluff; crack; headcanons; gender neutral reader
↳ warnings – none
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heeseung !
your biggest fan? yeah no that’s just him
will 100% buy multiple copies of your albums for no reason
“hyung why did you buy so many?”
“i nEED TO SUPPORT MY BABY”
actually lets out a squeal if he pulls your photocards
stars in his eyes when he watches you perform
and when he sees you speaking english
will copy your accent lmao
and pretty much when you do anything
will post dance covers of your comeback on tiktok
surprisingly fans have yet to find evidence that you're dating him
all they can confirm is that heeseung is a fan who has a fat crush on you
luckily that means he can have heart eyes for you whenever he sees you at award shows
he will always be the first to support you no matter what
jay !
mans has a cool guy façade to keep up
but you're really out here trying to bring it down
literally everything you do
sexy concept? he'll probably pass out
cute concept? would not be able to hold back his squeals
cool concept? would drool on the floor
you posted a dance cover of drunk-dazed on tiktok after it dropped and jay messaged you immediately after to praise you and fanboy over you
so so so soft for you and will give you all his uwus
would probably send reaction memes of both you and himself and you're just like "??????"
it's a thing now
you send memes of him from twitter and anywhere else and he sends memes of you
sometimes it's a while before either of you can reply but it's a good way to feel closer to one another
jake !
kinda memey vibes
aussie idols just........ yeah y'all get it
y'all were guest mc's together and there was this bit where you both had to speak english to one another
you messed up the line and you both just started giggling
everyone else was confused but y'all just couldn't stop
the producers had to separate you two after because you laughed every time you made eye contact
fans were a little sus after that but they just wrote it off as idol interactions
recite memes and vines together ("deez nUTS")
will always support you
his secret stan acc is mainly enhypen and your group
will always message you even when he's busy to make sure you're getting enough rest and eating properly
if he suspects something's wrong he'll contact your leader or manager to make sure they sort it out
is always ready to fight your company if they mistreat you
top tier idol bf material
sunghoon !
power couple vibes
think kai and jennie (rip jenkai) but make it 4th gen kpop
loves having a say in your comebacks
like he doesn't need an s/o that's super talented or perfect but we all know from i-land my dude laughs at people who aren't good
he'll give advice on how to do a dance move better or help you with lyrics or vocal techniques
also tells you what hair he thinks you should try and feels a swell of pride when you send him a photo of it after getting it done
begs your stylist to let him choose your outfits sometimes
they said yes just to shut him up but the fits ended up being surprisingly good
fashionista couple
you two are shipped together even without any interactions because of your similar personalities and great sense of style
you're both a little bit more quiet than other people but towards each other it's just constant teasing
he will clown you for every meme he finds of you on any form of sns
but don't let that fool you, he has your pc in his wallet
sunoo !
heart eyes #2
your biggest fan in the whole world
has predebut photos of you that your family sent him and sends them to you to squeal about how cute you were
will message you after every single thing you put out there
a new sns photo, a teaser photo, mv, performance?
sunoo's already on it
"y/n you look so pretty" "y/N YOU DIDN'T TELL ME YOU DYED YOUR HAIR"
would send you recordings and spoilers of enhypen’s new comebacks to try and bribe you into spoiling yours for him
you gave in very easily
it was fun at the time but now you're both struggling
it's hard enough to try and not spoil your own comebacks, let alone each other's
so now you're both just trying so hard not to let anything slip but it's too late to get out of the arrangement because you still want spoilers
jungwon !
so professional that nobody will ever suspect you two are dating
as far as netizens can tell you two are just acquaintances
like would bow at each other at awards shows but no further interaction
little do they know behind the scenes at award shows you and jungwon will meet up near the waiting rooms and eat snacks together
it's very important to him to make sure you're getting enough to eat so he always brings extra and hides them from his members
even if you two are on a variety show together you're so good at faking that you don't know each other
seriously you guys need to star in a drama
at this point you could literally be spotted outside the hybe building and they'd be like "no no she's probably just taking a walk in the area"
so subtle that if you announce you're dating the whole internet would blow wide open
niki !
puppy love
that's all i have to say
you're both so shy when it comes to pda
just like jungwon they'll never suspect you're dating
4th gen dance power duo
you did a performance stage together and the edits went on for months
the behind the scenes were so cute too
you two had to pretend you didn't know each other but couldn’t keep away from each other either
sharing glances across the room and playing around when the cameras were off
fans have noticed that you two were on your phones a lot but they never suspected that you were just texting each other across the room
but learning the dance together and practicing it was really fun even if you couldn't openly be a couple
after it was aired you two went out to get food together
it was dark so nobody saw you but you still got scolded at the dorms
but it was worth it
teen idols in love :')
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moonstarinfinity · 3 years
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BTS Group Astrology Interpretation
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What is BTS's overall vibe? How does their debut influence them as a group, their sound, and how their career as a team will play out? There are a lot of things you can see about a group or business using event astrology, and we're going to explore how BTS's group astrology plays out for them as a whole. Want to see what placements are beneficial? Does their chart indicate fame? How does it influence their music? What potential things could be issues for them as a group? Lets take a look!
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(This is long winded, so grab some banana milk and churros and enjoy the ride!)
Chart Pattern
Their chart pattern is called a "Tripod" pattern. This pattern indicates that they like to do their own thing. They are the trailblazers, and are often doing things that have never been done before. They refuse to be boxed in. We can see this in a TON of their music but the song that comes to my mind first is "Idol." They are not afraid to speak their mind and to bravely put their thoughts and feelings out for anyone to see and hear.
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Personal Planets
Sun in Gemini - 7th House
Communication, self-expression, curiosity, and adaptability. This placement is STRONG for BTS when it comes to their lyrics and style. They change up their sound and styles frequently as they grow. They are excellent communicators and often times their lyrics are deep, but easy to follow.
They are crafters of the spoken word, and this placement is actually a great one for an artistic group. It allows them to stay current and to be able to understand and gather information about what is going on around them at all times.
Gemini Sun placements are very good at fitting in with the world around them, and in this case the placement is strengthened in the 7th house of relationships and beauty.
Gemini in the 7th house is all about learning how to get to know others better. This plays out in them trying to keep up with their fans and each other, and to really understand and relate to their closest relationships.
You can see this influence in their style, and in the way they try to empower, relate, and connect with people through aesthetics and communication. Take "Dynamite" for example: It was created in an attempt to connect, inspire and uplift people all over the world. It was well thought through, brilliantly created, and extremely successful.
Amongst themselves this placement allows for them to understand each other better. They are all very different people, but they all have an understanding and love for each other regardless, and this energy is part of what makes their bond so close due to it's ability to help them understand and communicate as a whole.
One thing they need to watch out with when it comes to this placement is a restlessness. They struggle to stay still for too long, which is good and bad. When it comes to the 7th house this means that they tend to not focus on one commitment for too long, but it also means that when things seem too stable they may get anxious as a group, which can cause some discord. Thankfully this is also good in the sense that it always helps them to stay relevant, and as long as they are investigating and researching before they make moves, they can use this to their advantage.
Moon in Leo - 8th House
Loyal, proud, adventurous, enthusiastic. This is a really bright and cheerful placement. It's also a placement that LOVES love.
In the 8th house this is a very creative and straightforward placement. They thrive on creating with their emotions, and they likely bring a positive spin to topics like death and rebirth. They often will have a deep understanding of things that are more taboo, and are able to express their views and feelings of these things in a creative and positive light.
As a whole they are very aware of the important people in their lives (ARMY), and it's very easy for them to emotionally attach because their love for their fans and their group is very deep and intense. If anything were to happen to their relationship to their fans or as a group it would be a huge blow.
They need to be able to express things in big, passionate ways. They have a big voice as a group, and it's likely people will try to discourage them and dull their shine and intensity. Think to when Namjoon and Yoongi were both teased and looked down on for being in a kpop group by other rappers. This is the energy they face as a group overall, and it's important to continually express their passion and energy regardless of the people that try to bring them down.
A downside is this placement tends to be pushy and somewhat domineering, so they need to stay patient with each other as a team. They may try to rush themselves into situations, and at times this could make them feel unstable, but again...as long as they are taking calculated risks with their music and contracts then this is a good thing.
Let me also say that this is a very psychic and intuitive placement and people and businesses with this placement are often times healers. They heal through their artistic expression, and they bring those deepest, darkest feelings to a place of comfort for their fans. If you look at all of their music there is a theme. Map of the Soul. That alone is already proof of this placement without including each song, their music videos and concepts, and the way they connect to their fans.
This is a GREAT position for a business because the moon in the 8th is also seen as a position that indicates wealth earned from others.
Ascendant in Sagittarius - 1st House
BTS has an overall energy that exudes exploration and is extremely social. They are relatable and well-respected all over the world. They are open-minded, flexible, and extremely good at adapting to constant change.
Hope. Excitement. Change. Optimism. This is a very good ascendant to have in both a personal and group situation. You can see everything here from adventure, to fame, to being charitable, to expression, to intuition.
Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter and in the 1st house they are larger than life. This placement has been, and will continue to be, an amplifier for them. It is a placement that has led to fame, expansion, and notoriety.
This placement helps them be confident in themselves and their music. It's a placement of good luck and success. People are drawn in by the energy of this placement, and it helps BTS explore and understand all types of people, no matter their background.
They exude a colorful, childlike energy as a whole, even when talking about deep concepts and darker parts of the world and psyche. This makes them relatable and even for those that don't understand their lyrics, they can feel a sense of magic when listening to their music. They are funny, playful, hopeful, optimistic, and extremely likable.
This is another placement that has a strong intuition and a connection to spirituality. They often discuss things like the persona, shadow, ego, and the soul. These things are explored and the group as a whole grows and bonds through their own personal journeys and discoveries of who they are.
Generous. They LOVE to donate to causes. They LOVE to do things that better humanity. They are well informed, knowledgeable, and extremely attuned to the things going on in the world, and will sacrifice whatever they can as a group to bring awareness, support, and donations to causes that really need it.
A downside to this placement is a tendency to get bored, so they may have lots of projects that don't get finished or brought to light. They may get restless when they feel like they've been stuck in a situation for too long.
For some they may come off as naive or overly optimistic, and we can see that this was an issue in the beginning for them when they were looked at as just a kpop group, and not as a group that is more serious. Thankfully they have worked hard and proven time and time again that they are much more than just a kpop group.
Personally I don't see many challenges for a Sagittarius rising, and I love this placement. It's beautiful, and I could talk for days about how this placement is a lot of what BTS is known as.
Mercury in Cancer - 8th House
Here we find a place that helps BTS to slow down their high energy. Cancer is all about emotions, intuition, and going with the flow, and is traditionally ruled by the moon. Mercury is all about communication and knowledge, and the 8th house is the house of Scorpio traditionally. A place that is deep and watery.
This is a gentle, calm, and deep placement. They understand emotions, and express in a way that helps people who are in the darkest places feel heard and nurtured.
This placement is a huge one for music. It helps with rhythm, lyrics, and putting emotion into melody. This helps BTS express emotion through their sound, and that's a magnet for them as a musical group. Think poetry through sound and lyrics.
They can get frustrated as a group with "facts only" conversations, and as a whole will always touch on deeper subjects. They likely won't engage with drama or mainstream theatrics. They will likely stick to more personal topics in their music.
This also allows them to present or perform things in a powerful way that lets people know what they think and what they mean without any doubts. They are honest, and expect that honesty back from the world.
They may also need to retreat at times to work on projects or to go through their projects as a team, and all of them have to bring their viewpoints together in order to create the deep, soulful music we know. They likely have a ton of deep conversations amongst themselves about their feelings and emotions.
Ultimately this placement is kind, caring, and loving. BTS uses this placement to help people heal deeper wounds through love and compassion.
Venus in Cancer - 8th House
This placement honestly just triples the love, compassion, intuition, and care BTS has.
It brings a sensitivity and dependable energy to their group, and to their fans. They are protective, patient, and caring when it comes to their group and to ARMY.
This is another romantic placement, and it means they have a DEEP love for BTS as a whole and for their fans. They feel the connection on a deep level, and they place a ton of trust in their fans. (See Jungkook running into a crowd during a concert with zero fear, or how outspoken they are on controversial topics.)
They build a home amongst themselves, and invite their fans in to that home. It's a home built on dreams, intuition, love, compassion, and connection.
Again...spirituality. Literally their chart screams spirituality. This is another placement that focuses on the deep inner workings of being a human, loving ourselves and others, and developing humanity overall. You can see all of these spiritual influences in their music. They even touch on subjects like astrology, intuition, death of the ego, dark night of the soul...the list can go on for a long time.
They need to make sure to appreciate where they are at now, as this placement can make them forget to enjoy the moment. They need to allow themselves to revel in the current success and not chase after the next thing on their list. Celebrate the successes that you have now, because soon this moment will be a memory. Enjoy it while you are in it.
When they are hurt by someone or something they have a tendency to close down, and this would affect them on a more personal level. For example if someone in the group is hurt by a rumor, the entire group will put up a shield and nurture that person. They might withdraw from the public to make sure everyone is safe and cared for until there is no longer a threat. They also might hold grudges as a team against people who wrong them as a group, meaning that they could potentially fuel each other to do this if they aren't careful.
If you've ever noticed that they have a magnetic draw, part of that charm can come from this placement. It makes them naturally appealing and have a social chemistry as a whole that keeps people intrigued and coming back for more. As a group they develop each other and can actually increase each other's attractiveness.
Mars in Gemini - 7th House
Witty and edgy! Mars in Gemini knows how to use their words, and they definitely are not shy about it. This is a high energy placement and when the group is fired up about something expect there to be a lot of explosive communication about it. Think about songs like "Cypher 4" and "Ddaeng" and you can feel this energy.
Fast. This placement is FAST. This seems to be a good thing for BTS as long as they can take the moments to celebrate their successes as they happen. They are always quick to change and adapt. This speed allows them to keep up with trends, other groups, and the world. They just need to make sure all decisions are thought through, and usually this placement really helps them make calculated, smart decisions on the fly.
This placement is really good for BTS in the sense that it's usually a great fit for careers in the media, fashion, and entertainment. Again it's about keeping up with the trends and communication. What is cutting edge? This placement knows.
Usually people with mars in Gemini discharge their powerhouse energy through their hands, so it makes sense that as a group they are constantly making music. They also enjoy doing group puzzles and games together. (See BTS Run.) They have to constantly stay busy or they may get bored or depressed, and this just means that as a group they feel the most success and happiness when they are busy. They need that constant change so they can stay hyped up, and when they are all together their energy levels rise tremendously. This is where some of that chaotic energy comes from.
With Mars in the 7th house they may often times actually thrive in being the leaders, and they tend to have a dominant energy, but for a powerhouse group this is a good thing. They are extremely honest and loyal to their fanbase and they will likely fight anyone who comes for their team or their fans.
They are extremely competitive, and this placement almost always guarantees success. They don't stop until they are finished with a project, and they throw themselves into what they are passionate about as a group.
Jupiter in Gemini - 7th House
Lucky. Successful. Spiritual. Curious. Jupiter rules Sagittarius traditionally and this is actually a really great placement for them. They love to travel and be students of the world. They are constantly exploring in many different ways, and this allows them to bring their knowledge to a platform.
This placement is also very fortunate financially. It brings them wealth, which in the 7th house this can mean that it also brings the group lots of beauty and love.
Long term partnerships and relationships (with each other and their fans, and company) are predicted here. Jupiter is the sign of expansion and in the home of partnerships, relationships, and beauty, this can indicate a very happy, harmonious, long term situation.
I want to mention that their Ascendant is in Sagittarius and that actually affects this placement as well. Sagittarius being ruled by Jupiter means that this placement is actually their chart ruler. That means the effects of their Jupiter can be felt much stronger as a group than some of their weaker placements.
They have an innate ability to make their enemies into their friends, gain the affection and trust of the public, and to turn any partnership into a successful, financially lucrative situation. So this makes lots of people want to work with them and sponsor them. Think LG, FILA, Maplestory, Hyundai, Conway, Baskin Robbins, etc.
This placement personally makes the group very aware of their own energy overall. So they are very in tune with what feels like it's in alignment for them at any given time, and they will do research if they are not sure how they feel. They will usually discuss amongst themselves and really feel out how the whole group feels and thinks about things like partnerships and projects before committing to them.
Legal matters. They win. The 7th house is also the house of legalities and contracts so if at any point any legal matters arise for BTS, they have luck and intelligence on their side x10 because of this placement. They likely will quickly, easily, and successfully deal with any legal stuff that comes their way.
Last, but not least, for this placement: Their fans mean the world to them. Their love and relationship with their fans is amplified because of Jupiter being in the 7th, and you can see their love for their fans runs deep. It hits them very hard that they haven't been able to perform live, or meet their fans in person for a while, more so than a lot of other groups. They feel very deeply for their connection to their fans, and feel extreme amounts of happiness, love, and success when their fans show them love.
Saturn in Scorpio - 11th House
Hard workers first and foremost. Saturn is the planet that rules over hard work, and Scorpio is one of the most intense signs in the zodiac. They take their work very seriously, and they will dive into their work and won't come back up for air until it is finished.
Shadow healers. They use their music to relate to people on a level that makes you feel like you are their best friend. This allows them to really help you open up to yourself and dive into the depths. They can take you on many journeys through your soul and psyche and help you through even the toughest moments.
Saturn here is really fortunate because it means they are meant to reap the full benefit of their hard work. Whatever work they put in they are rewarded tenfold in time. Because they had to put in the work they appreciate the reward a lot more, and generally don't let things like materialism or finances go to their heads. (See Bangtan forgets they are millionaires videos on Youtube.)
Friendship and their relationships with fans are very important to them. They value the friendship that the group has overall, but also externally. They actually gain a ton from their friendships due to this position, which is no surprise. Think about all of their music collaborations, and the fact that their fans are what makes them successful. This Saturn can traditionally make it hard for the person to open up completely, but...that's not necessarily a bad thing for BTS because they are a KPOP group, and need that privacy.
Speaking of privacy:they treasure their privacy, and they are extremely protective over their individual lives away from the group. They tend to have a wound here about trusting others with things like this, and I think rightfully so honestly. Fame can bring good and bad things, and being overly cautious when it comes to who you let inside is important for idol groups.
This placement also nods to a group that refuses to follow trends. They are very unique and want to express that, so they will ignore what everyone else is doing, and follow their own beat. This can lead to them feeling isolated as a group sometimes, which may make them doubt themselves at times, but they ultimately should know that this ability to be themselves is what attracts the greatest things into their lives.
Their biggest shadow fear is the fear of being misunderstood. Mostly because of the point we just went over. They have a fear that they will be so deep or different that people won't understand them and that they will lost interest, or they will never truly understand their messages.
They also may fear that they will lose their passion as a group and things may spin out of their control, or become inconsistent. They want to heal the world and reach as many people as possible, and there's a fear that they won't do this, and at this point that they would lose the status they have and stop being able to change the world through their music.
They need to know that their whole chart is lucky, and as long as they keep following their passions, their spirituality, and their values they will be extremely successful as a group. You're already so many leagues ahead of so many people BTS, so look around right now and know that you are safe and that so many millions of people love and support you.
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Transpersonal Planets:
Uranus in Aries - 4th House
A powerful trailblazing placement! This is yet another sign and planet combination that goes their own way and leads the group into uncharted territory with confidence.
Uranus in the 4th house traditionally makes them feel like they are outcasts or outsiders. That they don't necessarily fit in or have a "home." Aries being here drives them to create a home of their own. This is why they make every person feel included and safe with them.
They also will find that this aspect makes them feel at home with each other as a team of people who may feel like they don't fit in with "normal" society, but they feel like they fit in with each other.
As a whole they will encourage each other to rebel against society, norms, and traditions. They will all feel like a fire is lit beneath them when they are working together. A passion and bravery will exude from them as a whole.
This will give them a craving for freedom (which goes hand in hand with their Sagittarius Ascendant) and a desire to be independent. They will find that this placement develops a safety and stability within their group, and this is what gives them a strong foundation. They may at times come off as cliquey but they are far from it. They just really like to do their own thing, and are confident in the foundation they continually build together as a team.
Normally this placement can indicate hardships with family, but because it's a group chart reading this is saying that they come from all different backgrounds, and atmospheres, and they find a way to make anywhere their home as long as they are together. At times they can be dependent on each other, but this bond is what gives them stability in their endeavors as a team.
They are all inclusive, meaning that their love (ARMY, music, each other) doesn't judge, and it accepts everything. They are not superficial, and they like to think of themselves as a safe place for anyone and everyone to land.
Neptune in Pisces - 3rd House
Led by their intuition and thinking processes, they will look within their group and themselves to move forward.
I know this is sounding like a broken record but: SPIRITUALITY. I can't say it enough. They like to know the ins and outs of the deepest parts of life. They like to develop themselves on an individual level, as well as in their group. They then like to share this journey through music and art as true Neptune in Pisces placements often do.
It's another placement that gives them a leg up when it comes to communication as well. They have a way of using metaphors, art, sound, lyrics, and emotion to explain and teach things on a global scale. It's one of the reasons they are so popular globally, and relate to almost anyone they come across.
This placement has a power struggle early on between the mind and intuition. Generally there's a lack of knowledge on how to express, but over time as the mind and creativity flow together, it becomes a powerful placement. We can actually see this in BTS in the way that early on their music was influenced more by others, and now they are the ones who are creating their music exclusively from within themselves.
Eccentric, different, funny, and sociable. This placement creates a very forward-thinking group that loves the unusual and thrives from doing things in their own ways. It's given a very energetic and humorous spin because of the fact that the ascendant is in Sagittarius, and the overall energy of their chart allows for the group to have a massive amount of freedom, passion, and drive.
Pluto in Capricorn - 2nd House
I laugh at this placement because this can lead to a tendency to be very frugal with money, but can lead to holding onto things too tightly. So for instance: If your phone breaks, you tape it back together instead of buying a new phone. It's not that you can't afford one, it's that you don't value buying a new phone, and would rather save the money for something better. Plus you like that phone, and it still works, so why not?
This is a very logical and practical placement, and the goal of this placement is to teach the group what is really valuable, and in doing so they can translate that to the world. It causes them to develop as a team in the realm of stability and finances.
They are incredibly gifted at following their intuition as a group when it comes to what they spend money on, how their tours are organized, what businesses to partner up with, and how much to invest into their projects financially. They just understand and know the ins and outs of what is the best deal and what can bring them the most success.
They likely have struggled as a team with the pull of money versus stability from within. They have to continually understand that their group is stable and abundant just because of who they are, and that it's not all about how much you can earn or how successful you are. This will help alleviate the fear that all can be lost at any moment by helping them understand that they could lose these things, but that they won't lose their stability in each other.
The lesson is to let go a little. They need to follow their intuition, and it's okay if they are a little possessive over their team, their fans, and their success, but they also need to be okay with letting things come and go. They seem to already work through this challenge really well, and thankfully their other placements make it a lot easier to not get stuck holding onto everything. See the song "Let Go."
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Aspects:
Scorpio North Node - 12th House
Their purpose as a group is literally to show the transformation process (death and rebirth, spirituality) through art and music.
Their challenges are to embrace the unknown and to teach others how to do the same while understanding and accepting their emotions and themselves for who they really are.
It's all about embracing change and emotions for what they are and flowing through them. You will find that most of their music is about this very thing. Love yourself. Map of the soul. It's all about transforming yourself by working through your shadows and wounds.
Song recommendations if you want examples: Butterfly, Interlude: Shadow, Persona, Ego, Black Swan, Mikrokrosmos, Magic shop....I could just say their entire catalog really.
The goal is to change the world by helping people step out of their comfort zones, follow their passions, and love themselves. If that isn't beautiful, I don't know what is. If you find yourself drawn to BTS, don't be surprised if you are also drawn to spirituality, self-love, and massive personal transformation.
Pisces Chiron - 3rd House
When I do group Chiron placements they are read as how the group helps their fans, each other, and potentially the world heal.
In this case they help each other and the world believe in the universe again. That there is good in the world, and that we are all part of one big beautiful consciousness. (Not to get all spiritual on you.)
People who feel like the universe has dealt them a bad hand, beaten down by the world, discouraged with life, will come to BTS for healing. When you listen to their music and connect to them as a group it creates a sense of oneness. They teach others that they are important, they do have a place in this world, and that they belong. Your differences are what makes you who you are, and they are here to help you see that, accept it, and embrace it.
They will help you see that even in the darkest times there is always light. There is always hope, and you are ultimately in control of your life. They teach that the universe co-creates with you.
This placement helps them to open people up when they've shut down. To nurture people back to believing in the good again. They do this through communication and connection. They help people to face their wounds and to transform from them instead of running away from them. Then once they've faced them, they teach you how to voice your thoughts, your passions, your emotions.
Chiron in Pisces helps them to understand and actually feel other people's emotions and pain, so as a group they need to make sure they take the time to recharge after long tours or giving their energy to people. They can easily take on other people's emotions as their own, but this is also what helps them heal others.
The 3rd house Chiron placement also helps them teach others to find a balance between logic and intuition. Practicality and spirituality. Light and dark. A place where you can have both instead of leaning into one or the other.
Speak your truth. Be yourself. Feel your feelings. Love yourself. "Speak yourself."
Midheaven (MC) - Virgo
This makes so much sense it hurts me. Virgo Midheaven is all about having the ability to look inside yourself and bring what you find out in the open to teach others. They are destined for a career that allows them to better themselves (which they all do) as well as the world around them.
They use language as a healing tool, and are suited to a career that allows them to express their knowledge that they've gained from deep introspection. They are direct, but nurturing. They often bring a grounding energy into their career.
They strive for perfection and organization, which for a group placement makes a ton of sense, considering this is for their career.
This also indicates an importance when it comes to coworkers and teamwork, which is yet another reason they all work so well together.
They have great attention to detail, and we can see this in how much work they put into getting each part of their music to be just right. It's a great placement for working on masterpieces.
There is a tendency to be overly critical of their work as a group, but again...they need to recognize their accomplishments and their success in the moment and this will help curb that. Plus a little self-criticism can be a push forward if it's constructive.
Hopefully this gives you some insight into who BTS is and how they interact with each other, their fans, and the world around them. At some point I would love to expand even further on their placements because they exude such a warm and supportive energy.
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Here's their chart for anyone who is interested. More on their aspects to come at a later time!
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queenahnhyejin · 3 years
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The many reasons moomoos love Hwasa:
Hwasa is a wonderful, kind, graceful, loving, caring and soft person. She is always real - no frame, no fake. She is one of the most respected idols, but many kpop stans drag her til this day. It is not on anyone to persuade a person to trust or like someone. However, Hwasa is hands down one of the most humble and kind idols, so here is a relatively short list of reasons people love her:
1. First of all, she is a role model for many. She defies all expectations and beauty standards of an idol. She makes millions of girls feel more confident in their skin. She is a darker-skinned Asian, curvy, with mono lids and a face that does not fit the idol standard. She has been called fat and ugly her entire career. (For no valid reason) Yet she NEVER changed the way she looks, because she loves herself the way she is.
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2. She regularly donates to charity and is part of many campaigns. She never posts about her donations, but many moos know that she has been very active over the years. Recently she partnered up with Tommy Jeans for "Together, we create". Refund Sisters donate all earnings of Don't Touch Me for a good cause. Mamamoo has made numerous donations for all kinds of causes and keep their fans involved and aware of many issues.
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3. She is always for LGBTQ+ rights. From the very beginning of her career until now.
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4. She is an artist. She writes, composes, produces and is involved in all of her solo work. She doesn't do the things she is told but the things she truly wants.
5. She never says anything bad about someone. In fact, she is a big softie and has a big heart. She really is there for her friends and colleagues, which is something they all said (Mamamoo members, Kei, Refund Sisters members, Park Narae, Han Hyejin, ILA cast...)
6. She talks honestly about her feelings and her music reflects she is a normal girl in her twenties that can get hurt and emotional like everyone else.
7. She is very proud and loving of her family. She never forgot where she comes from.
8. She is a relatable queen. She loves greasy food, sleep, movies, nature, messy buns, comfy clothes, she picks her nose and is lazy when she feels like it. And is totally not hiding it.
9. On the other hand, she is incredibly hard working. She never complains about the INSANE amounts of work she has. Only this year she had her solo comeback, was a part of ILA, Refund Sisters & Hangout with Yoo, filmed YeoEunPa, had a CB with Mamamoo, performed on music shows, award shows, variety shows, went on photo shoots, campaigns, fashion events etc. She injured her back and still performed. She was really unwell mentally but managed to out put an incredible album.
10. She is actually quite smart. She always uses word plays in her work and has a very good ear, so much so, that she can direct herself in the studio and use many foreign styles in her singing.
11. She shows affection wherever, whenever. To fans and friends.
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12. She rocks her bare skin and free titties and frankly doesn't give a damn.
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13. She is a fashion icon.
14. She made small businesses and venues famous and through her sell-out power helped them take off.
15. She is redefining makeup and fashion trends across SK. Some articles labeled it "the Hwasa generation".
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These are only 15 reasons, but no doubt, there are countless reasons to love this amazing queen.
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JIKOOK AND THEIR SHENANIGANS-pt1
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Disclaimer:
This is my opinion and perspective of Jikook. I do not intend nor imply malice by my choice of words or by my interpretations of BTS' contents. Nor do I intend to be disrespectful of any member herein mentioned.
Do not take my words out of context in furtherance of your own agenda. You are the author of your own intentions and interpretations. If you do hold yourself accountable first.
PREFACE
I am done with with Jikook. Lol
I swear to God by the time they officially come out as a couple, if they ever do, I'm going to be left with severe PTSD.
Pray for me.
A lot has happened with Jikook these past few weeks. A devastating lot. Everything was going great and smooth and boom- we were hit with yet another anomaly in their dynamics. It was usual given us most of the things that had happened were entirely new to their dynamics yet not at all surprising in the grand scheme of things simply because unpredictability is Jikook's schtik and as I've come to terms with, part of their dynamics- you'll get used to it if you are new. Welcome to the club. Lol
I have shared snippets of my thoughts here and there on this whole development as and when it unfolded and said I wasn't going to deliver a comprehensive commentary until later so here it is- grab a glass of wine or coffee. It's gonna be long. Bless.
WHY I WAS HOLDING BACK
Contrary to what some people say and assume about me, I don't pull my opinions on Jikook from my ass- a dollar to the jar. Lol. I don't base my perspective on Jikook's relationship and dynamics on puff and nada. Where is the fun in that? I may be delusional about somethings but... Anywho.
I have said time and again how when it comes to Jikook moments there's always context and subtexts we are missing- it's a challenge trying to fill in the gaps. Probably part of the reason I'm obsessed with their dynamics. Lol.
Most of the theories I share with you on here are based on my observations of Jikooks interactions over a period of time. My objective has always been to try and understand the motivations (context) behind their moments and interactions, some of which I find fit a pattern while others- I never want to tackle or even think about without several pain killers and depressants until years later when a piece of content is released to provide better insights into their dynamics.
Jimin's birthday is one such moment for me. While I understood and even predicted JM's use of 5/8 in May this year was going to be a substitute for May 13 because I felt Jikook were not in a good place, were under heavy scrutiny in SK within that time period- starting with that March 30th VLive which I believe had led to a ban on Jikook using the platform on their own(especially Jimin- JK was already under ban but we will get into it later) given as BTS's content had changed drastically with heavy VLive supervision and the pg 13 contents they were made to make post that JM's VLive; then there was rumors of Dispatch's alleged conflict with BigHit, BigHit's IPO, Jungkook's Itaewon scandal- which of course were all confirmed later on that month, I felt the prospect wasn't looking good for Jikook to Jikook as wildly and as openly as they did.
Now you all know about my wild assumption about JM taking space out of their relationship due to JK coming on strong around that time so I'll spare the details.
Contrastingly, post BigHit's IPO, post Soop since Stay Gold era I felt things were looking great for Jikook. They were back to Jikooking. I felt they weren't being monitored as much by their bandmates and had a new found freedom within BigHit to do their own things as it appeared BigHit had begun 'managing' and presenting them as a brand- which I have written dissertations upon dissertations on so I won't get into.
JK and JM had started their online flirty banter thingy, even Dispatch seemed good with Bighit posting BTS official photos etc. Jimin too posted for JK on his birthday, JK came out on social media to gear up for JM's birthday and then puff- ashes. We hit a wall.
Now I know some people are speculating there was too much attention on Jikook within this time frame which is why JK didn't post- uhhmm, I don't buy it that view. There's always attention on Jikook. It's usually the negative attention like around March-June that holds them back from Jikooking. In opinion. I wouldn't call the attention they are or were getting within that time period negative.
Then there were some who speculated JK wasn't going to post because he hadn't posted for any of the members since Jin's birthday last year which again I didn't buy into. Jk is fearless and doesn't shy aware from making bold expressions of his love for Jimin. Him posting for Jimin would have been a bold move but nothing exactly new.
We've seen his GCFs. Enough said.
Personally, I felt he had showed up on social media a few days to JM's birthday to promote his music but to also prepare the grounds for when he posts on Jimin's birthday.
I genuinely felt he was gonna 'out' Jimin with that post and have people raising all kinds of brows like they did with GCF Tokyo, Saipan and Helsinki. Lol
Why did I think he was going to do this?
DECEMBER 4TH 2019
Jin's birthday. Now I have given y'all the back ground to this timeline and so I will just hit the highlights- Rosebowl, New Jersey VLive, JK getting drunk on his Jun VLive which I felt led to a ban on him from making solo live on VApp since 2019 to date- his recent Solo live was on YouTube mind you.
Prior to this I felt he and JM had earned a ban from making a VLive together until their 2020 VLive which was heavily monitored as I have speculated in past posts- again this is just my opinion.
JK, I felt, was being 'reckless' within this period. He was making bold moves and pushing the boundaries of his relationship with Jimin and even teasing the gates of the glass closet they are in. It certainly didn't help that the You too movement in S.K and the whole Idol sex abuse scandals in Kpop was on going as I've mentioned before-which had led to August's issues. Again you know my theory on the whole tattoo girl scandal so skipping.
October we had the whole cancel Jikook hashtag trending after Jikook's performance of I still want you and the whole you are me, I am you schtick.
In all of this I felt Jikook were fine.
November is when I noticed Jikook having 'issues' in their relationship (rolling my eyes at Silver) lol. Now again I won't go into all of that but you can check the real time contents/ behind scenes content on BTS around the time period and draw your own conclusions on that.
Then came the December ups and downs, JM flinching and dropping his face when JK went to sit by him in Jin's VLive- JK's awkwardness around Jimim. Now I know some people interpret this Live as that they were fighting? I won't call it fight fight perse. Lol. Issues, perhaps?Just seemed to me JM wanted to keep a low profile because again they were under heavy public scrutiny around the time which was what I feel was causing RM to keep an eye on them throughout that period- by keeping an eye on them I mean he was invoking the spirit of Jesus between them Pentecostal style. Bless him.
But seems JK wasn't having none of that, clearly. Lmho. There were already alot of restrictions on him since June in the way he used social media(Vapp) he and JM were not allowed to VLive together, he couldn't solo Vlive no more and now he couldn't even sit right with his man- I approve of the frying pans Jk. I APPROVE. Lol.
All this is my opinion of course.
But I think that is what he meant when he kept saying it's been a while he did a solo live and didn't even know how to do one anymore in his recent YouTube live- Jk can be passive aggressive in that way but we will get into that YouTube live in a bit. Hang in there.
So with all this going on I felt I understood him when he missed Jin's birthday on Twitter. Felt like a silent protest to me. But then again I thought perhaps it was just an impulsive act on his part.
Then he missed Tae's Birthday too and I thought hold on- this man is up to something. He was gonna a statement with that in retaliation to all the ban and sanctions and interferences with his personal life.
I was just following this whole drama with anxious glee towards a big reveal and then- cricket's ass ass deadass. Chilee. This man is cruel! Lol. I'm gonna need therapy to process this one on god! Lol JK!
My Right brain said perhaps, others had been right after all and he hadn't done all of that missed birthdays on purpose at all but had only acted impulsively in the heat of the moment given everything that had been going on with the group in around Jin's birthday- Mama 2019, we all know what had happened.
I felt perhaps, the moment he missed Jin's then he had to miss everyone's because if he wished any other person a happy birthday people were going to ask questions. People were going to assume he hated whoever he didn't wish a happy birthday.
But then my left brain- the crazy delulu side, also thought otherwise. I had a funny feeling that JK really intended to post only for Jimin on his birthday since he had been gearing up for it and that the only reason he wouldn't go through with it was if JM had asked him not to.
Why would JM do that? Because he enjoys the glass closet- he loves to flex his bond with JK, tease their relationship, claim his man, he wants people to know JK is his man because he is happy with him and proud of the man that he is but that doesn't mean he is ready to come out as LGBTQ plus. In my opinion.
JK I feel was done hiding the moment he posted GCF in Saipan- he gets right with us. Bless him.
JK often weaponizes their 'secret' against Jimin and hold's it over his head sometimes- so often when Jimin is on his Kumbaya agenda with the group taking their sides on things relating to their relationship JK switches on him and tries to expose Jimin- if you're just gonna help them burn us, I'm just gonna blow the whole operation out in the open and we are all going down. Chilee!
God, I felt Jk was going to expose Jikook for real! 🤣 Don't mess with JK and his Jimin- even Jimin himself gets burns sometimes.
Remember when JK threatened to expose a picture of himself with a hickey if JM didn't stay and do a VLive with him? Remember that? JK scares me for real when he is on his Jikook agenda! Lol
I felt he knew exactly what he was doing just as he knew exactly what he was doing with Saipan and editing of Helsinki. He just reiterated it in his recent live- which we will get into soon. He pointed out how he had gone to ask the members to describe the feelings they wanted to express through the MV he directed.
He admitted yet again in that live how he expresses his feelings, HIS FEELINGS, through his art and music- for all those who keep saying you can't tell JK loves JM just because he doesn't do the things JM does. Lmho.
And so I was heavily confused by these two conflicting theories in my brain. Which is why I kept saying I didn't want to jump into conclusions, that I was going to need more content yadda yadda yadda.
Which brings me to my resolution for JM's birthday saga.
POST JIMIN'S BIRTHDAY
Jimin enjoys been treated special. It's part of his love language. Jk has always treated him like he is special to him. And I know people claim it's just a birthday post- sure. But I understand also that Jimin doesn't Joke with his birthday. His father doesn't Joke with his birthday and clearly neither does JK- given as even before they all started the exchanging of gifts culture that he was giving presents to JM and JM alone within the group.
Besides, he's said he reads the members birthday messages to him on social media and have gone ahead to read some of them on his birthday Vlives in the past. So I can't say JK not posting was nothing.
My resolution was simple. I was going to examine their interactions post Jimin's birthday to see if their dynamics had flipped to see if JK not posting for JM's birthday had in anyway affected their relationship.
If JM's birthday meant something to him. Jk was going to make it up to him- openly. Deadass but in my opinion. Lol.
That's one aspect of Jikook's dynamics you can always count on- hopefully. Lol.
They have a way of reassuring eachother of their love and affection. And I don't know what happened to put the fear of God in both of them but lord are they both scared of pissing the other off! Jesus! Not sure if it's the whippery but damn- they are both crazy for that.
For instance, take JinMin's VLive right before the New Jersey Vlive. JM posted immediately after their live had ended to say he is sorry and loves JK on Twitter. And y'all saw him when JK panned to him on the bed? I've never seen a man so terrified of another man in my entire shipping life- Manila must have put the fear of JK in him, which THANK GOD! lol. Jimin plays too much. Lmho.
Never knew a hyung needed permission from a dongsaeng to leave a room until that day. Chileee! Jin had pulled a prank on JK too but I didn't see him wetting his pants and blowing kithes to JK- come at me with Jinkook is real, see what happens. Lol
Then GCF in Tokyo! I know to some it seemed like a random act of confession on JK's part but boy did he have motivation! He don stressed JM out to the ends of the world with those weird ass rumors (again not gonna mention it because it's very controversial 'saesangs' nature) if you know good for you but chilee you didn't hear it here. Lol
Then there was that whole photoshoot and JM looking like he wanted to kill JK lol right around August 2017. Which I have discussed in one of my blog posts. I think it's in a lot of jeonlous. I'll link it later- if I find it.
Then the almighty 2019 Tattoo Girl scandal, I'm not talking about the August scandal. I'm talking about the one on JM's birthday last year which launched the severe 'I am sorry' hashtags in JK's post on JM's birthday. In my opinion definitely.
The Tattoo girl's shop had wanted until Jimin's birthday, almost a month after the incident, to release a statement which blew up the incident again and almost overshadowed JM's birthday.
Chilee, the delulu in me felt that was intentional. They just wanted to hurt JK by ruining his man's birthday for him- never let him forget. Lol. These evil masterminds. Chilee!
In my opinion. Please.
My point is, JM and JK do make out in efforts to fix their relationship. And usually, I find whoever is in the wrong takes the most initiatives- not to say all the GCFs was because of a fight. Personally I take Saipan and Helsinki more seriously than Tokyo. Just saying.
And of course we all saw JM fly all the way from Paris on JK's birthday- talk of grand gestures and extending Olive branches. Chilee, I'm single!
I was going to wait till I could see who was reassuring who after JM's birthday to see who was in the 'wrong' know what I mean? Like who is putting in more effort to let us know they are a thing?
After their March/May shenanigans that was JK with the thirst traps and shit on Weverse, which brought JM around and he started opening up taking initiatives of his own like in the Dynamite MV reaction VLive.
Afterwards it all seemed pretty mutual to me and they were vibing. Jikook was a Vibe. Sigh.
THE PHOTOSHOOT SAGA
Now I know some people assert they don't see the 'tensions' in that behind the scenes photoshoot but we would have to agree to disagree on that because I saw that as tension between Jikook as I explained in my last post.
Jk walked right past and around Jimin without a word- chileee. JM was 'extroverted' with everyone but Jk- chilee chileee. This is weird as fuck. Lmho.
Prior to this shoot I had my eyes on Tae, RM Jk due to the Twitter war that I felt was going on between them in the days leading up to the concert. If they had anything to do with JK not posting on JM's birthday it was gonna leave trails.
Jk loves everyone but fuck with his relationship with his man and you're- poor Namjoon. Lol.
I refrained from discussing the photoshoot video or conceptualizing a theory around it because for the love of me I couldn't tell who was mad at who in that footage.
They all seemed equally mad to me. Jk had his usual don't fuck with my man mood on with that glare he gave RM causing RM to back away from JM and that attitude he gave Jin right after- which I have already speculated on in my last post.
The stare down contest between him and JM was equally nerve wracking and reminded me of that interview stare down contest between Jikook around Manila.
And I know I mentioned the 'elite' squad backing up Jimin in that moment. Chilee, I was too tired to explain that term because I had been writing for a whole day nonstop but that is the term I give to RM, Hobi, Jin as the hyungs/ elders who enable JM's shenanigans most often in the group.
JK usually pans them down when he and JM are going at it.
I feel Tae, JK, Suga are the ones that stay on JM's neck and calls his bull the most out of all the boys- Y'all don't wanna know what I call them. Lol. Perhaps, I should call them Silver? Chilee, girl don stayed my neck, put the fear of Moses in me! Lol
It felt as if, whatever the problem was, they both had an interest at stake in that moment in my opinion and they were battling it out. Besides, 5 days had gone by and for the love of me I had no idea why that mood was still persisting especially if it had anything to do with Jimin's birthday.
But I understand JM had been away with his family after the concert and had spent his birthday with his family so perhaps they couldn't resolve things within that time period. And JK it seemed had also thrown himself into work from what he said on his YouTube Live, filming and directing and shit- good for him. JM's wedding suit won't buy itself. Lol
So now the Jikook Solo lives.
JIKOOK SOLO LIVES
Now y'all know I was waiting for this one. I told y'all I was waiting to see how BTS interacted with the VApp post Soop. Y'all know my conspiracy theory on this- the whole Jikook were banned from using it, JK was banned after his last VLive in June last year and how JM was banned in March this year after JK intercepted Jin's call and asked him on a date and said the whole I love you kithes thingy- they are trouble.
Then I talked about how JK had been trying to rebel in retaliation, the whole team up with Tae to expose BigHit on Weverse after their live.
I don't think much has changed in that regard. He still didn't do his Live on the VApp and through out his YouTube live he kept hinting at how BigHit had sabotaged his passion- he claimed he had lost his passion for GCF( at least that's how I took it) and that GCF felt more like work than something he did out of passion.
He threw jabs here and there at BigHit complaining about how he didn't even know how to do them Live logs anymore because it had been a while he did them- the lies Jeon Jungkook ne spilling! You was on a live with RM not too long ago what do you mean it's been long! *smirk.
Jimin did the same thing too but in a more subtle way I feel. He kept saying how he didn't know his way around the app, how the staff had set it up for him and JK said the same thing-but more aggressively. Lol.
It seems JK was just going to turn on the Live, keep it business and yeet himself out of there- just like people want him to do(to be professional and not expose his relationship- chileee, JK is that too much to ask? Sigh.
JK is really passive aggressive like the Silver Squad- see what I did there? Lol. Tae and Suga have taught him well. It's that control thingy, I feel. He hates it. He hates when he is controlled by anyone- except Jimin apparently.
He really enjoys and wants the freedom to do what he wants- rather dead than cool. Chilee! It's how he was raised I believe. He is a very independent free spirited individual, I keep saying.
All that, "it's awkward' 'it's been awhile I did this' yea he ain't slick. *smirk.
Another interesting thing I noticed is how both him and JM tried to keep the other's name out of their mouths- well Jimin tried. Dude couldn't help himself bless him.
I just think they have been cautioned to keep a really low profile on the app especially in regards to how they use the app, what they share on the app- no eye fucking, no weird tensions staring into eachother's souls, no I love you's in the background and certainly NO BONERS!
All in all, my impression of those two Lives was that- Jimin had baited BigHit when he posted that 'see you soon on VApp.' In my opinion.
I think he did that to force BigHit's hands. Jk did the same with his 'I can't do live logs on my own now' statement.
Jimin had put BigHit in a tight corner when he read that 'I miss Jungkook' comment. And the way he kept it pushing afterwards- the next day BigHit was like, y'all this is Simba. Hair slicked back and all. Take him. Lol.
I keep saying the one thing BigHit is scared of is a scandal. They really don't want people asking certain questions that's going to make them look bad especially towards their artists- in my opinion. BigHit please it's my opinion. Let the records show. Lol.
And as I keep saying, BTS and even Jikook have a way of weaponizing their social media Influence against BigHit- that nearly 9 million viewers Jimin read out on his VLive certainly gave BigHit a push to call out JK. Lol.
Personally, I was curious as I said earlier as to how that VLive was going to be live. Whether it was going to be monitored heavily like their lives were after the March 30th incident.
I was curious to see if he would appear on YouTube or VApp. As it stands, it seems whatever ban was placed on JM from having Solo Lives on the App has been lifted
And it seems he was fighting for his man too in the most kumbaya way possible- Jimin! Lolololol. He is hilarious. Bless him
I just hope JK doesn't call in on JM's future VLives again to ask him on a date- again cos damn that would chaotic. Lol.
It's crazy to me how people still look at JK and ask if he loves JM at all- damn if he isn't carrying their relationship on his back!
It seems for now he still isn't allowed a solo VLive on the App and from the Way he kept saying he couldn't do a log alone it seems he is pushing to have that freedom to have a VLive with JM again- I don't know. I might be delulu. Lol
As to whether JK was the wrong party for not posting on JM's birthday I still don't know. Would have to observe their interactions a bit more.
So far from their lives the only one who was making efforts to feed us was Jimin with the whole 10/13 Mickey Mouse thingy which we all know is reference to Jikook.
If my hypothesis is right, JM would be coming out here with heart eyes, clinging to JK, making all the efforts while JK has the mood he had during the On era again- acting like he not whipped but he whipped- bless him.
Sigh.
All that being said, this is just my opinion. I'm just sharing my thoughts and observations. I am not calling anyone to action. I am not instructing anyone on what to do with my opinion, to hate on BigHit, or any of the members mentioned in here.
If you are not an adult, and can't reason like an adult do not sit at the adult table. Immaturity is not a bar to freedom of expression.
CONCLUSION
When it comes to Jikook, I always feel JK has put in so much effort into his relationship with Jimin to squander all that effort over something as silly as a birthday post.
Jikook have both worked through a lot, come a long way in their love journey to let petty issues undo all the efforts they've both put into eachother.
If JM's birthday is an issue for JM, JK would have made it right by now. All it takes it one simple post to fix it. And he has taken much bolder steps in the past to chicken out now.
And if Jimin is the one holding JK then- dude better prepare another Paris trip to placate his man because JK about to pout him to death. Lol.
As I said I have a feeling things are good between them now. I just want to see more of their interactions.
Keep supporting Jikook.
Signed,
GOLDY
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Hey, I really enjoyed your KPOP headcanons (the Gosho Girls desperately need more content like this since everyone just focuses on the boys)! I came up with some myself for Kazuha (because I love her) and you said you were fine with other people adding on so here they are. This is... kind a lot so it might be super long... Maybe you could copy paste this into a post if publishing the ask is too hard? I'm not sure if you'll agree, but I hope at least some of them are good enough for you to add to your headcanons haha
- Kazuha seems like someone who greatly values authenticity and honesty (she says what she means and honestly thinks after all). So I think she would be the type to always sing live and refuse to lip sync, even if her singing is not 100% perfect. She would rather make mistakes and have flaws than to not actually sing/fake it. To her, this is what makes it a true live - something where anything can happen and something can potentially go wrong
- Despite this, she is still upset at herself if she makes mistakes and will try to train harder to overcome them
- As a main vocalist, her technique is amazing, obviously, but she is a performance > technique (or performer > technician) type of person and she would sacrifice technique for performance value if need be (though obviously she would try for both)
- Similarly, I don't think she would like her voice to be over-edited (or with many effects) and she would prefer to keep it mostly raw, since that is more authentic and conveys her emotions and passion more (so keeping in things like breaths)
- Which leads me to the next thing. Kazuha would never become an idol if she wasn't completely serious, enthusiastic and passionate about music and performing (mostly singing). So her performances are always full of passion and rawness and you can tell she really enjoys performing and doesn't view it as a chore.
- Kazuha is an amazing performer with lots of stage presence. She's super expressive (and emotional) on stage and that shows in her dancing, singing and expressions. Although she's good at synchronising with people (aikido requires harmony after all), she adds a lot of little flairs that show her individuality (and slight improvisation rather than always completely following all the choreography), and sometimes she does this too much that it may slightly clash with/disrupt the synchronisation or overall harmony of the performance
- Despite this, I think she is still overall serious on stage/when performing, and doesn't give out too much fanservice since she's completely invested in the performance and focused on putting her absolute all into it.
- In fact, sometimes she can get too into it and be a bit too intense about performing that she can exhaust herself when practising. She has probably fainted from practising too much and losing track of time (see movie 21 with karuta). This is especially the case if she does not think she is good enough at a particular thing. She will keep practising that nonstop until she's satisfied, and will tend to start panicking if she doesn't improve to the level she wants. She tends to do less well when stressed like this.
- Japanese idols tend to have more of an emphasis on stage presence and interacting with the audience, and I think it's the same with Kazuha. She really enjoys concerts (over music/award shows) because she gets to interact more with the audience, and perform more /for/ the audience. She likes seeing the impact her singing has on people.
- I think her brand of beauty would be more natural (like in canon) so her stylists usually don't do /too/ much and she usually looks similar between performances and comebacks (eg, she usually doesn't drastically cut or dye her hair)
- She almost always wears her hair in a ponytail (with a ribbon) because it's an iconic look for her.
- When she doesn't have her hair in a ponytail, she always still manages to incorporate a ribbon somewhere because ribbons are /special/ to Kazuha ok (and are probably all treasured gifts from people
- I would say her singing style focuses on good emotional execution (she makes people Feel things ok) and high belting/power vocals while still maintaining good technique.
- Dancing? Pretty good but not as good as Ran, obviously. She seems to be the type to make up for any flaws in technique and strength (like how aikido's less strength-based) using passion. And she's the main vocalist so she usually doesn't get hard dance parts so that she can sing (esp since she sings live). And she'll sacrifice her dancing for her singing if need be.
- She's a fast learner though, so she learns lyrics and choreography pretty fast.
- In livestreams, she sings a lot and will allow people to request songs for her to sing acapella
- Probably one of the first to make a solo debut (if she wants) because her singing abilities allows her to carry entire songs by herself. Her songs will be very vocals-focused rather than dance-focused. Does a bunch of collabs as a solo artist too
- Covers a lot of Japanese songs, including traditional Japanese songs because her family is pretty traditional (and she fits that theme). In fact, she may be skilled in enka and traditional Japanese folk singing (kind of like the caller in karuta - like if you remember in movie 21, there's someone that kind of sings out the poems)
- Kazuha acts really authentically. She doesn't put on a stage persona or act differently just because she's a celebrity (she can't anyway, even if she tried. She would probably break character really easily)
- Probably cries at concerts all the time
- Probably best at cuter and fresher concepts, but she can also be powerful
- Puts so much emotion into her singing (especially with emotional songs) that sometimes she herself can become overwhelmed with them. She has probably broken down or started crying while performing a particular emotional song.
- A theatre (takarazuka) fan! So you better believe that she incorporates musical theatre techniques into her singing and performing.
YES YES YES AND YES! I honestly had all these headcanons as well, but I didn’t post them because I didn’t have more headcanons for the other girls and it wouldn’t be fair to give Kazuha more.
But omgggggg I agree with you with EVERYTHING! Love this
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