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I can't stop thinking about if part 5 was set in a pharmaceutical company, like that's such an interesting take since it does fit. But I wonder what the other conflicts would be, like how LS would fit in? And wouldn't there be a lot of similar problems as to what you have w part 5? The corruption would more than likely b spread thru the entire company, and Bruno bringing ppl into a place he knows is corrupt would be the same as him bringing ppl into the Mafia? Not trying to be argumentative or anything, I'm genuinely very curious about how u would rework this!

That is also very true. I was just throwing a concept out that I had briefly thought of, but now I want to explore it more, lol. (Although worldbuilding and creative writing is not really something I am super confident in I will give it a try.)

For a start, I feel like the problems that I had with part 5 would at least be lessened by default due to a couple of things. For one, the setting of an actual company instead of a mafia would make it so Giorno and Bruno’s motivation of solving the corruption would make much more sense (it’s not really possible to have an uncorrupt mafia, after all, but it is at least somewhat possible to deal with the corruption in a company), and Bruno’s thought process would still become a little more coherent and true to the character I think Araki was trying to write. Maybe he’s been in the company since before things started to go wrong and Diavolo became too power-hungry, so he’s attached to the business and wants to restore it back to its previous state.

I also imagined that the corruption, while very present, could be hidden to many of the employees at first (which I think would fit in with Diavolo’s secretive nature- he might want to conceal what he was doing so no one gets suspicious, right?), and it would really only benefit/be perpetrated by the people at the top, like the managers and CEO- so, Bruno could bring Narancia, Abbacchio and Fugo in while he was unaware of what was really going on behind the scenes, thinking he’s doing a good thing for them while not realizing what was actually happening. I also imagined that hiring Fugo and Narancia for some sort of internship to boost a future career for them would fit considering Narancia’s neglect at home not giving him a very good start and Fugo already being intelligent, but kicked out of school. Their lives would’ve effectively been ruined if Bruno didn’t help them.

This would make his morality not necessarily flawed in bringing people into the company, but just make him initially ignorant and maybe a little naïve to not see the issues going on until it was too late. (I think this would fit, considering Bruno had to be pretty ignorant and naïve to not realize that Passione was distributing drugs... lol).

La Squadra is an interesting piece to fit into this, too, considering the kind of characters that they are. I would argue that they are a sort of middle ground in-between the ‘good guy’ status of Bruno and his group and the actual main antagonist, Diavolo. They’re no doubt bad people (being greedy assassins who tried to murder an innocent 15-year-old girl kind of automatically puts you in that category, after all), but their motivations are actually more nuanced, in my opinion. Their grudge against and motivation for hunting down the Boss stemmed from when he hired someone to torture and murder two of their members. That’s really not an inherently evil motivation, and it ended up being the protagonist’s goals themselves after all of La Squadra was defeated as well.

Functionally, I don’t think there’s anything really ‘evil’ about their desire to hunt down the Boss. The fact that they cared about each other enough to do something like that shows that they’re not pure evil as well. Instead, what was amoral was their methods of achieving what they wanted. They wanted to kill the Boss, so they raced to get to his daughter because she was the only connecting link that they could find, causing harm to innocent people in the process of enacting their vengeance. (I hope that makes sense.)

So... I think that La Squadra, in the company setting, could be a group of higher-ups in the company (maybe Diavolo turned it into a pyramid scheme /hj). Maybe they had been benefiting from the corruption and abusing the power they had while taking orders from the Boss/CEO up until this point, until two of them (Sorbet and Gelato) got too greedy and broke a rule, disobeyed the Boss, tried to find out his identity or otherwise made him mad enough to react by murdering them, similar to how it canonically played out. This, then, would become La Squadra’s motivation to turn against Diavolo and try to find out his whereabouts to kill him or otherwise undermine his power.

I think that narrative would work since it portrays La Squadra in a pretty similar way to canon- higher-ups hurting innocent people and overall being scumbags until they see the violent nature of the Boss be enacted on one of their close friends, which then prompts them to sacrifice their status and enact revenge on the person they previously followed, albeit still causing harm to innocents in the process. (I imagine it as less black-and-white and more... a dark shade of gray, I guess.)

In this case, Unita Speciale (Tiziano & Squalo, Cioccolata and Secco, Carne, etc.) could also be higher-ups that take orders from the Boss. They would probably dislike the main cast because they all benefit from the power they’re given and don’t want things to change, so they are willing to put up resistance to and potentially kill anyone attempting to get rid of their power. (I also just think that a regular boss of a company hiring his employees to straight up kill protesters would be kinda funny.) I doubt Doppio would also be a higher-up in the company due to how young he is, but maybe he could sort of ‘disguise’ himself as an intern while secretly carrying out orders from the Boss and essentially being a spy for him. (I always imagined that he views Diavolo as a guardian figure more than a regular Boss based on the way they interact, so it would make sense that he’s loyal to him to that extent).

I feel like a lot about Diavolo could remain the same or similar, with him remaining anonymous and not going out in public or revealing his name or face to anyone, so no one really knows who the actual CEO of the company is. It’d be a little more unrealistic than a mafia setting, but I think the whole plot point of trying to discover the Boss’ identity could still work. (I also feel like there’s room for unrealistic/hard-to-believe things happening, considering that’s kind of just what Jojo is like.)

He’d probably need more of a stated reason to hide his identity, though- maybe he’s trying to avoid the government because of all the illegal stuff he’s doing. (Like, for example, not paying his taxes would be one of them). In that case, his reasoning for killing his daughter would also remain essentially the same as canon. She is a connection between him and the outside world, so he views her existence as a threat and sought out to eliminate her.

There is one big thing I would change, though, and it’s the role that Polnareff plays in the story. One thing I always hated about Vento Aureo’s narrative is how after Abbacchio was murdered and all hope seemed lost, Polnareff just suddenly appears on the protagonists’ computer and is like “Hey, guys! I have the Boss’ name, face and all of the information and power you need to defeat him! Isn’t that just so convenient?” Like, man... I feel like that was the worst possible way you could’ve progressed the plot.

Instead, I would like to introduce Polnareff to the story more naturally. Maybe after the events of Stardust Crusaders, he moved to Italy and started working at the company a few years back, so he would be connected to the story in a more sensical way that doesn’t feel shoehorned in. I also think that he could be introduced a little earlier, so we can get used to his presence and he doesn’t feel shoved into the narrative. I think the reasoning for how he found out Diavolo’s name could be pretty similar to canon- Diavolo, in his early days, didn’t do a thorough enough job concealing his identity, which Polnareff managed to uncover, resulting in his attempted murder and leaving him disabled.

The second main thing that I would like to change is the stuff surrounding the Requiem arrow. While I don’t necessarily have a problem with Requiem stands in and of itself, I feel like it has the same problem as Polnareff in that it was introduced way too late to feel like a natural or non-forced addition to the story. I would also introduce the Requiem arrow earlier on, maybe still alongside Polnareff, so we can get used to its presence in the story.

As for Gold Experience Requiem and what Giorno does after Diavolo is defeated- for a start, I think the big thing I would change about GER is the fact that the arrow becomes “forever Giorno’s” by embedding itself in Gold Experience permanently. I don’t like that, for reasons I have previously talked about. I think it’d be better if the arrow pulled itself out of Gold Experience after Diavolo is defeated, with Giorno maybe keeping it afterwards just in case, but otherwise using it sparingly. I also might change the ability as I feel like infinite death is generally too overkill (although if we are considering the circumstance that Giorno might not use the ability again since he can only use the arrow very sparingly, the concept does become less bad to me. Maybe the concept of a death loop could be kept with a couple of factors introduced, like for example, the ability is able to be deactivated, or it automatically ends if Gold Experience is destroyed or Giorno dies... infinite death is just a disturbing thought to me, man.)

As for the very end, I don’t think it would work if Giorno became CEO of the company. (I feel like that would be a little too unrealistic, even for Jojo standards.) I think the most likely thing that would probably happen is that the company would get bought by another corporation/wealthy person, who would take things over from there. Maybe Polnareff, Giorno and Mista could survive and inform the new CEO (who is assumedly a better person, and if not, Giorno could probably threaten them into complying) of what’s going on, so they can seek to stop the corruption going on. I think that is the most sensical way I could see it playing out.

This would definitely need some more fleshing out + extra worldbuilding if an AU/remake was going to be created, but this is a sort of guideline with some concepts for changes I thought up. (I hope it makes sense even though my knowledge on business is limited).

#agh sorry this took so long to answer my brain is not working right #also busy with things irl #i also had a couple other ideas for an alternate setting. like maybe diavolo could be a monarch in a medieval kingdom #i think aus/concepts for that exist already though #this is definitely not realistic to an irl company but jojo is not realistic either so it's fine yknow #i hope i didnt miss anything jfdfk #vento aureo #shoe talks a lot

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