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https-hargreeves · 6 months

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Hazel (on the phone): We have him

Diego: Who?

Cha Cha: We have your brother, Five Hargreeves

Diego: Oh

Cha Cha: …Oh?

Diego: Yeah, you don’t have him. He has you. Good Luck!

Deigo: (hangs up the phone)

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chalkbird · 2 years

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absolutely obsessed with this type of character

when a character is faced with so much violence and abuse that when pushed past their breaking point they snap and go on a killing spree. bonus points if they're cute girls

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bluecookiedisaster · 2 years

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How the 7 stub their toe

Luther: *screams but starts singing to cover it up*

Diego: *cries for Mom*

Allison: *takes pictures of herself with tears on her cheeks*

Klaus: *is stubbing his toe on purpose because it’s his kink*

Five: *curses and obliterates the wall*

(alive) Ben: *stares at foot, and says ‘frick’ really quietly*

Viktor: *apologizes to the wall*

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perthshirecottage · 2 years

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It’s interesting how each set of siblings names are written during their introduction. The Umbrellas are written with their number first and their name is written in quotation marks likes their name isn’t real. It’s just something they go by. But their given name is their number. Diego even says his name is “Number 2” like that’s the only night their dad ever gave him. Like that’s what is on his birth certificate. And we are never given any indication that the Umbrellas were ever given a chance to change their number. It was their name just as much as it was a rank. And the only time it was even mentioned as a rank was because of the rivalry between Diego and Luther. Other than that it was simply their names.

Now the Sparrows are introduced with their names first. With A.K.A and their number tacked on. Which implies that their name came before their number. Their number isn’t their name. It’s merely a rank that they go by. The only time that any of them go by a number is when someone is trying to make a point. ‘I’m number one’ ‘there’s a reason you’re number two’ ‘you failed when you had your chance, now it’s my turn to be number one’. They even switch rank around. Ben was once number 1. He messed up and lost his title. Fei wanted a chance to be number 1 when she found out Marcus was gone. Reginald even calls them by their names and only calls Ben number 2 to let Ben know he is still a failure.

I just find that small difference interesting and I wonder why Reggie had such decided to treat the kids so different.

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hjbirthdaywishes · 1 year

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February 21, 2023

Happy 36 Birthday to Elliot Page.

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mykinkyyandere · 2 years

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Did Five and Vanya had romantic feelings for each other?

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⚠️ Just a quick warning. I'm new in this fandom and Viktor Hargreeves is confirmed. But all the discussions were already made under the name Vanya and I couldn't find a new one. So I will go with that name and use she/her pronouns but only because I will talk about a pretty past relationship when he was still Vanya. Like, imagine as if I'm writing this in 2019. At least, I feel like this and I feel like I'm too late. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, I hope I'm doing the right thing. If not, I deeply apologise.

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I'm not going to talk about moral appropriateness here. I'm a dark fiction writer, so it doesn't matter whether I approve of the step-sibling relationship or not. Dark contents are different in real life and fiction. I don't support what I write. I said this many times. This is a problem that almost all dark creators experience. We are often accused of supporting toxic behaviors and relationships, but this is extremely wrong. Before accusing someone, we should do research and educate ourselves about it. In real life, I never support a step-sibling relationship and I strongly defend that it seriously damages family trust and privacy. There is no need to talk about the fictional aspect of it, I believe that everyone is free in fiction and we have no right to shame people. Real life and fictional life are different, we need to comprehend the difference. Here, I will talk about my own views on whether such an attraction actually exists.

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I don't think that Five and Vanya's relationship when they were kids was romantic. Aidan is free to share his theory and opinion, but as he said, it was HIS theory. I understand his interpretation of the story and characters. You can find it on this site. A handful of children who were abused during their childhood years and only had the chance to fulfill emotional support from themselves. In a traumatic life like this, the possibility of developing romantic feelings for their step-siblings is realistic.

Almost every person I saw reacted like, "This is disgusting, it can't be!". But we musn't judge, we must be objective. I'm not one to approve of this kind of relationship in real life either, but the traumatic lives of the characters in the series strengthen the possibility of this theory, and I think it's inevitable. Although we don't support it, it's realistic and possible for children trying to survive their traumatic life to develop romantic feelings, as Aidan says. Now I'm going to talk about whether it really exists from my point of view.

Let's start with something I see as a fact. You don't have to accept as canon a theory explained by the actor who plays the character, which goes for any movie or TV show. For me, to be canon, that information has to be confirmed by the creator. Like, the author, etc. For example, an actor said that his character might secretly in love with his teacher. Until this is confirmed, it's only as much a theory as yours or mine. Everyone has the right to believe what they want and make it canon whatever theory they want. The actor sharing his own opinion can make it canon for you, especially if you're a supporter of that idea. You would be so happy and excited to hear that your favorite character's actor shares the same opinion with you, it's canon now! But this romantic relationship has never been confirmed and will likely never be canon. So you're free to believe there was a romantic relationship or there wasn't a romantic relationship.

Often (depending on what kind of person you are) you get your shit together towards someone who seems quiet/fragile/shy. You don't want to offend them, right? For example, I'm a distant person who don't use bad language. People's behavior changes drastically when they're with me. They know I'm not that kinda person they can talk with (If you're a jerk, it's different ofc. That's why I said depending on what kind of person you are.). This isn't just for me, I just gave an example over myself. Whoever you are with, the attitude and distance you take or give probably changes according their/your personality/age. This is no exception for Five and the others.

As far as I understand, Vanya isn't a sarcastic and argumentative character. She's someone who is trying to cope with her trauma by shutting herself down. There was no reason for Five to be mean or angry with her. I don't find the way he "becomes softer" or "let his guard down" with her as romantic. Five is harsh with people who try to argue or challenge him or who have that potential and who don't listen. But Vanya's understanding and listening side gives him no reason for this harshness. Sadly, Vanya's personality alone isn't enough in someone's behavior towards Vanya. How understanding or caring the other person is, is very important. The siblings' own character builds, and their resentment towards Vanya because of her book, greatly influences the way they talk to her and their behavior towards her. Because they went through something, there is something between them. This breaks the effectiveness of Vanya's character build and others may not hesitate to offend her.

But Five met Vanya after decades. He learned everything that happened in between from the book she wrote. He didn't personally experience the anger of the other siblings had towards Vanya because of that book. Probably he would be angry too if he didn't get lost and read that book when he was still with them. When talking to Vanya, remember that he was 58 years old. She wrote that book, yes. But why would he show an angry approach? Everyone's mad at her anyway, the past is past, what happened happened. He read the book all alone, probably remembering them with a kind of longing. I think he didn't need to be angry while reading the book, because he read it with sadness without his family. He missed them. SO, no, I don't think it's romantic that Five compliments her book in his interaction with Vanya. He may even be glad that she wrote the book. It became a resource that he could fill a little bit of his lost years. I mean, taking the book with him everywhere and using it as a notebook isn't because he used to have romantic feelings for Vanya, but because it's a source of his family.

And after he read how bad Vanya felt as a kid, I think he felt the sympathy of a 60-year-old man when he talked with her and his approach to her softened inevitably because of this. After all, Vanya wrote the book, reflecting how she sees others while expressing her own feelings. We know that Five is controlling, ruthless, and rational, but he's a human after all, and he must have been pretty close to Vanya. Vanya described him in her book as her sole confidant. I think for the sake of the old days and probably being the only sibling he could talk to without being annoyed, he controlled his behavior when he was with her.

Vanya told Pogo how she left the lights on and made him a sandwich in case he would come back, but I think it was purely because of her grief over the loss of her maybe the closest sibling. Making sandwiches and leaving the lights on, telling Pogo how much she miss him, doesn't mean she had feelings for him romantically. And she said those things so casually, anyway. I didn't see and get any romantic vibe. Vanya was like that because of her kind personality and her closeness with Five that the other siblings don't have and only she has. We can tell from Vanya's speech, behavior and book that they had close relationships, but I think it's wrong to interpret them as romantic.

If your own brother disappeared, you'd leave the light on for years and make sandwiches for him. Being adoptive doesn't change that. It's normal for 7 step-siblings to act different and not feel equally close to each other. One sibling doesn't care that much, but the other one thinks about him all the time. It's not an excuse to romanticise their closeness. I think it's disrespectful to make a romantic sense of any intimacy just because they're step-siblings.

As I said, it is important to remember that Five is a man nearly 60. He's being soft with her, probably for the sake of the closeness they've shared as siblings in the past. It would be insufficient to rely solely on Vanya's confessions to Pogo and her book to interpret what's between them romantically. I see no "I used to like him" effect in Vanya's behavior. I don't think it's a romantic proof for Vanya to take care of Five's wound. Of course she would be concerned about Five's wound and would like to take care of it. Of course she would say "I don't want to lose you again". Five would of course go to her to talk, of course he would treat her more kindly and perhaps a little more expressively. And all this for the reasons I mentioned above. I don't think there is any romance between them.

I talked about the series. I didn't read the comics yet. But according to my research, there is no romantic relationship in the comics either. Actually, they say they don't really interact at all, she's close to Diego instead.

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