#anti alice cullen

[thecarnivorousmuffinmeta]

Hello, sorry if this has been asked before and no worries if you don’t wanna answer, but do you think Alice had an actual relationship with anyone (excepting Jasper, Edmund, and Bella)? She doesn’t strike me as a social butterfly and she’s not even that close to the rest of the Cullens. I’m don’t know if you would agree but she seems kind of lonely to me?

No.

Alice's gift is such that the people around her, even those she loves, are dehumanized. They become a series of probability distributions that she should guide into picking the best course of action.

Edward is the one she feels a real sense of kinship with, as he shares those visions through his own gift and like her is an unwilling voyeur to those he loves most.

Bella she seems to like because she can tell her what to do and do what she wants with her. She can always have fun times with Bella, can always have Bella look fabulous, and can have all sorts of new experiences and parties because of Bella. They don't actually talk all that much or say anything particularly meaningful to one another.

Jasper's similar in that their relationship boils down to "Alice had a vision about him". In canon, we see them chafing against one another, and their relationship seems to work as it is because Jasper at the end of the day has Alice has his highest priority/will listen to her, not because they have any kind of meaningful relationship.

The thing is, though, that while this is a very small group of people Alice has any relationship it's also the only effort she puts into any relationship. Rosalie wishes she could be closer to Alice, but Alice doesn't seem to want to put up with her. We don't see Alice reaching out much to the other family members or resentful of having only close relationships with a few.

While Alice is lonely, yes, I think she's also content with the situation. She has a sibling/friend in Edward who truly understands her in a way no one else can, she has a lover in Jasper, and a sister and friend in Bella. She doesn't need the others and if she wanted to she could seek a course where they would be whatever she'd wanted them to be (that is, at the end of the day, what Alice's gift is best for).

Alice is living that montage in Groundhog's Day where Phil tries to seduce Rita and treats it as finding the right combination of words to get his desired end result, where Rita isn't so much a person as she is a mysterious black box who can predictably respond to known input.

Basically, Alice doesn't see people as people enough to consider herself lonely. If she did, she would rework her approach to those around her to put people into roles that make her feel less lonely.

#twilight #twilight meta #twilight headcanon #twilight renaissance #alice cullen #anti alice cullen #edward cullen #jasper whitlock #bella swan #rosalie hale #meta #headcanon #opinion #sleepneverheardofher

[smallcatwoman]

I am too tired to correct the errors here but I hope you get what I was thinking.

What do you think the hypothetical kid of Jasper and Alice gift would be?

My sums of money on hallucinations cause survival reasons. (to combat Renesmee's gift)

Alice I imagine has resentment to Renesme because she blocks her visions. Hence the to combat part. Jasper's gift is emotionally based..SO I was thinking Alice's feelings would also become his cause he feels everything...

First of all, I am shocked in the best way that someone is asking a Twilight question like this to me as if I know anything. I'll try my best.

For the sake of this ask, lets assume Alice inherited Bella's horrendous taste in names and named her child Greige.

As of canon, Jasper can already sense and manipulate Alice's emotions, including her frustration at Renesmee blocking her abilities. If her and Jasper's child is a hybrid, they would also block visions by default.

But let's say, that Greige doesn't block Alice, adopting this as part of their gift, similar to how Renesmee isn't blocked by Bella. This is if we're going off of the theory from @therealvinelle and @thecarnivorousmuffinmeta that hybrids gifts are very powerful and versatile, and focused on helping them survive. This would make Greige significantly less annoying to their mother than Renesmee, especially if Alice also gets to dress them up in adorable outfits and hyper control their life to an even greater extent than she controls Bella.

I do think Greige would have some skills of emotional manipulation, similar to how Renesmee seems to enthrall others and make them love her. But in terms of combining Alice and Jasper's gifts, the only thing I can think of is sensing the emotional outcome of decisions.

So like, if it's going to rain and Greige doesn't put on a coat, they can't see themselves getting rained on, but they can sense the annoyance and discomfort they would feel. If Carlisle decides to kiss Aro in front of everyone, Greige can't see the horrified expressions of the Cullens and everyone arguing about it, but they can sense the horror, disgust, jealousy, etc that the Cullens would feel, as well as the happiness and love that Carlisle and Aro would feel. Maybe not as useful as Alice's visions, but still helpful in a pinch.

#twilight #twilight meta #aro x carlisle #jasper x alice #anti alice cullen #are yall proud of me that i didnt drag eleazar into this for once #i did write one fic without him too #but progress is progress #long post

[restinslices]

(I swear to y’all, imma go back to Mortal Kombat. But I have to rant. Imma pretend it’s the early 2000s and rant about Twilight. If you’re pro any of the Cullens, don’t even read this)

I’m not saying Jacob should’ve kissed Bella, but my thing is this; Jacob kisses you and you call him a dog and say you hope Edward kills him. Edward has done foul shit the ENTIRE SERIES and you let him slide repeatedly. There’s this part where Bella gets mad and says something like “at least Edward an act like an adult”. Bitch. He IS AN ADULT. What do you mean? Bella is way more harsh when it comes to Jacob and I don’t get why she holds so much anger towards this child and holds him to this high standard but has none of these feelings when it comes to the old ass adult she’s with. Since I’m typing, Stephanie Myers is weird and idc what y’all say. I remember Bella described Leah as beautiful in an EXOTIC way. MA’AM? It feels like she realized how asshole-ish the Cullens are and tried to make the wolves seem worse but all I’m thinking is “they’re definitely in the right when it comes to not liking the Cullens”.

The wolves don’t like vampires because they’re a safety risk. The Cullens being there (keep in mind, they’re rich enough to leave and never come back) is triggering these young ass people to turn into wolves. The Cullens don’t like the wolves because?? They have no valid reason. Edward constantly says the wolves are dangerous and yeah, they’re not the safest to be around but compared to vampires they’re a lot safer. Bella has only been harmed by vampires and only the vampires have tried to end her life. James, Laurent, Jasper, Victoria, the new born army that’s forming, the Volturi. She’s only been in danger because of the wolves once. Like, I don’t get how Stephanie expects us to agree with Edward when there’s proof that the wolves are way safer. Not 100% safe but better than vampires. And while I love Seth, I swear Seth is the “you’re not like the others” character. They only like Seth because he doesn’t hold animosity towards them as if that animosity isn’t valid. It’s giving “you’re not like other blacks, you talk proper” (ik he’s not black, it’s an example). I’m finishing the books because I’m too deep to quit but I wish they let Victoria finish the job.

#anti cullen #anti edward cullen #anti carlisle cullen #anti esme cullen #anti alice cullen #anti jasper cullen #anti rosalie cullen #Emmett is the only Cullen I like rn but that can change #I know it is 2024 but listen- #anti bella swan #twilight #Slices Speaks

[waldensblog]

So I finished New Moon as part of my twilight re-read, and... I kinda violently dislike the Cullens now? And I am absolutely 110% on Charlie and the Wolves side. Long ass rant below the line.

Bella gets a papercut at her 18th birthday, and is about to be murdered for it. Edward is completely 100% right on the car-ride back that if she went to Angela’s house or something, this shit wouldn’t have happened. So at first it’s like “oh good, Edward realizes this is very bad for her, since he does love her, he’s going to make the selfless choice and leave.”

And then this motherfucker manages to find a way to do in a selfish-ass manner. He barely says two words to her for DAYS and tells his entire family to skip town without saying ONE WORD to this girl whose grown very attached to all of them - especially Alice. Apparently she wanted to say goodbye but Edward decided it’s better this way. Now... it’s easy to just be mad at Edward for that, but no. I’m furious at all of them, Alice included. She could have ignored Edward, told him that’s a dickish move, and said goodbye in person, or SOMETHING. Like Charlie says SOME WARNING WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE. 

And then Edward, Mr. “Don’t go into the forest please, it’s dangerous” decides the best way to break up with Bella is to... bring her into said forest when breaking it off and leave her there. He even takes the fucking time to forge a note saying where Bella went - maybe because he knew she’d end up on the forest floor like that? Edward... what the actual fuck? No really, why not break up with her in her BEDROOM where she’ll lie in her bed, be safe... this is just... dude... wtf. 

Bella is then depressed for MONTHS on end, and Charlie is doing his fucking best. Unfortunately Bella never did get to have a slumber party with Jess and Angela, honestly - I think that would have helped so much. She spent so much time being depressed, feeling there was a hole, etc. and never got to the stage of being angry - furious, at all of them. She wouldn’t have needed to give details, she could have just gone on a tangent about the literal leaving-her-completely-out-of-the-blue, while Angela nodded and Jessica fist-pumped like she’s at a fucking rave. I was robbed, robbed of this possibility. Rather than go through that kinda healing, she basically ignores all her friends. 

And I think Bella was honest-to-god enthralled. She refers to it in Twilight as Dazzling, and we see that vampires have this uncanny ability to persuade someone - nurses, waiters, teachers, etc. whether they are conscious of it or not. I can’t help but think that when Edward decided he was going to talk to Bella, try and date her - he enthralled her (whether he knew it or not), and that’s why she just can’t get past it. She should be furious at him, but she isn’t.

Bella ends up spending time with Jake - at first she’s kind of using him, she wants the motorcycles to get hallucinations of Edward, which - Girl, get therapy, please. But over time she really grows fond of him, they become best friends, and I can actually see her falling in love with him. I know Meyer clarifies on her website that she did fall in love with him in New Moon, and I can fucking see it. 

At first she tells him she doesn’t share his feelings, but then she says “Maybe I could” and compares him to Paris - I don’t like that she’s seeing him as 2nd choice, but it’s clear that she does love him. He is her sun, he makes her feel whole again, she becomes a “wolf girl”, standing there in her dream beside Emily, another “wolf girl”. He puts his arm around her, holds her hand, calls her “honey”, others say she’s his “girlfriend”, and she doesn’t decline it. Then Mike straight up asks “are you dating him?” and Bella answers “not in the technical sense”. I’m sorry but... an answer like that is... she loves him, but is afraid to move on. She even then almost does - they almost kiss in his car when Alice shows up.

And of course... Bella, enthralled as she is, decides to go to Alice. Personally, if my 18-year old ass had been in that car with Jake deliberating “shift or get her to safety” and I saw Alice’s car, I’d have been like “Wait I know that car! Yeah let’s get the fuck out of here!!!” and held my middle finger to the window as he sped off. Like you really want to go see this “friend” who straight up ghosted you for months? Naw, not me. 

Jacob, despite being treated shittily, is more than understanding. I think the wolves are immune to enthrallment, and they can see it for what it is - so they try. Jacob comes back, he tries to talk to her, and they again, nearly kiss - it’s so close. But then shit happens, and oh no, Edward’s gonna kill himself because he’s a fucking drama queen. 

Bella, feeling responsible decides she must help. So she ditches Charlie, ditches Jacob, and runs off. 

When she comes back with Edward in toe? Oh.my.god. the rage, the seething from Charlie, like... I get it. I feel it. I side with it. Charlie straight up asks like... how dare you show your face? And no really, how dare he? Dude ditches town with no word, leaving Bella an absolute mess, then he brings her back after she ran off suddenly. Like from Charlie’s POV he’s gotta be thinking “Billy is fucking right, fuck this family.” Charlie then tries to forbid Edward from being in the house or seeing Bella, and she says no - obviously, being 18, he can’t make her do anything - but he’s concerned, and honestly, I’d be fucking concerned too. Her behaviour is irrational af from his POV. 

When Jacob shows up at the end, he isn’t even aware that Bella had been trying to call him. He thought Edward was controlling her movements - and again, it’s easy to see why he thinks that. From where he’s standing, Bella is enthralled, and is acting extremely irrationally. He’s trying to protect his best friend from what he sees as an obvious abuser, and the only way he knows how is to get her in trouble with the motorcycles (kinda odd to me that Charlie would ground Bella that specific way instead of letting her go to La Push, you’d think Charlie would be driving them together there frequently, but I digress). 

Jacob is sorry to get her in trouble, but he’s a 16-year old boy, and he’s doing his best. Then when Bella reaches out to him - Edward actually, literally, holds her back. How, exactly, is Jacob supposed to interpret this beyond Edward controlling her, even where she isn’t enthralled. Of course he’s pissed off. 

Of course all the wolves feel so strongly against the Cullens. Who found her on the forest floor, the dangerous-ass forest floor after Edward left her? Sam. Who was there for her when they weren’t, making her feel like a person again? Jacob. Who protected her from a vampire that the Cullens, as a collective, should have had the fucking brains to realize would absolutely come to Forks? The wolves. Who is responsible for these literal children shifting? The Cullens. Who has a ton of money and could easily do just about anything they want and decide to buy like 6 expensive cars and live in a mansion, hoarding their wealth? The Cullens. Who are immortal colonizers that damn well know what living there does? The Cullens. 

So yeah, my first time reading it, I was Team Jacob, but I didn’t hate all the Cullens. Now? Nah, fuck all y’all. Team Wolf pack, team Charlie, all the fucking way. Maybe I’ll feel differently after Eclipse, idk, but right now? Fuck them. 

#Twilight Saga #Twilight Renaissance #New Moon #Twilight reread #Bella Swan #anti Cullens #anti Edward Cullen #anti Alice Cullen #anti Emmett Cullen #anti Rosalie Hale #anti Jasper Hale #anti Carlisle Cullen #anti Esme Cullen #Team Jacob #Team Charlie #Team Bella

[vicontheinternet]

Friendly reminder alice isn’t as good as y’all make her out to be she willingly sought out a man who she knew was a former confederate and romantazied him. She was born in 1901 she’s mostly likely racist too. She’s been racist to Jacob.

#the twilight renaissance #the twilight saga #twilight critical #alice cullen #mary alice brandon #she’s not the better option for bella #she’s just as controlling as Edward #I know most of the ppl on this side of tumblr know this #but ppl still uwu her #they infantilize her #this isn’t necessarily anti alice #you can still like alice while recognizing that she not who you thought she was #you can empathize with the things she’s been through and still recognize that she *might* be racist and has been

[plumpuddingeverywhere]

I just watched Twilight 1 and 2 for the first time for the 💫 culture 💫 the other night and I was sooo pissed off- not because it was terrible- but because it was terrible and I got way more invested than I planned to, and was mad that Edward is the most dramatic 14 year old girl I’ve ever seen in my life. You’re supposed to be 109 brother 🤨. Team Jacob ftw btw! but FUCK you Twilight for cutting his hair and making him an Edward copy. nobody fucking likes you Edward 🙄

The soundtrack hits tho, at least they have that. And they couldn’t have chosen a better location for those movies ahhh Washington is so beautiful

Me looking at Bella at the end of New Moon when Edward is about to pull his stunt, knowing full well that she’s gonna run like hell to throw away everything with Jacob and go grovel at his white-ass feet:

#bees.buzzing #literally Bella should screw her head on right and go for THE REAL choice #which is Alice of course #or maybe a better relationship WITH HER FATHER #THATS WHY YOURE SO DEPENDENT ON THESE MEN IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!! #also can we talk about how Jacob spends most of new moon saving Bella from the trauma and problems that EDWARD caused her?? #and then she has the audacity to say: don’t make me choose. it’ll always be him?? #GIRL???? #GIRL JUST GO DROWN AGAIN #YKNOW WHAT BELLA AND EDWARD ARE PERFECT FOR EACHOTHER ACTUALLY #twilight #twilight: new moon #anti edward cullen #smirk

[tiktoksinspo]

#twilight #omg #twilight marathon #perfect #damn #funny #comedy #movies #nice #great crowd #I need to rewatch them just for fun #ew #bella swan #edward cullen #jacob black #anti jacob black #jesus christ #carlisle cullen #alice cullen #charlie swan #tiktok #@lauraaaaaaa_

[therealvinelle]

saw the buzzed art breeder article- is it just me or does alice's look like jackson rathbone's jasper?

Can't believe you're making me look that up again.

I actually was reminded of Morena Baccarin, who played the terrorist's wife in Homelander and Vanessa in Deadpool. It was an eerie similarity.

#morena baccarin #alice cullen #twilight #twilight renaissance #buzzfeed #anti buzzfeed

[gwyns]

I was reblogging a pro Elain post to show girlie some love and because I agreed with what it said, but I noticed some of the comments that just rubbed me the wrong way.

One of the comments said “That's the thing. Everyone wants Az with Gwyn because she's now a Valkaryie.. but does Az want that? He hates laryians, and especially hates how they treat the women. And we have a warrior couple.. why would SJM make another?”

And then some of the reblogs said “tbh most 'girl boss' characters are just..childish pick mes—characters like elain are so mature interesting fascinating” and “I don't know about yall but i am sooooo tired of these Feisty, Sassy, girlboss female characters, who smart mouth everybody. A soft feminine and quiet female character, who loves to garden and keep to herself and mind her own business is what we need more of”

I agree that we need more soft and feminine female characters, but to put down another woman just to show love for another isn’t okay. That post didn’t even say anything about Gwyn or ships, but she still got brought up.

E/riel’s say all these thing that they want for Elain, but then they try to make her a spy or a warrior. They constantly change her plot/arc and personality and characteristics just to fit Azriel’s. Make fanart of her with weapons, in leathers, and covered in blood. Complain how we “hate” Elain for being more soft and feminine, but from what I’ve seen, most Gwynriel’s strongly support Elain being soft and feminine. They support that she likes to bake and garden. They’re not trying to change everything about her character to fit a man. It’s like E/riel’s take one small thing that someone might’ve said a long time ago and just run with it, on and on and on.

I’ve seen antis say that SJM made Gwyn’s character to try and not be like other girls. The quirky, cool girl (but now they’re trying to say Elain is like Alice Cullen who is quirky/weird?), how she’s childish & immature because she gets excited, and squeals/makes high pitched noises, and likes to make friendship bracelets. Gwyn made an excited sound because Cassian told her that he knew the former Valkyries personally. It’s normal to make certain sounds when you’re excited about something. And the bracelets were a way to honor her sister who was killed in front of her. Gwyn is rediscovering joy and happiness after being severely traumatized. I don’t see how Gwyn is childish at all. I think the only reason why they’re anti Gwyn is because she’s a love interest for Azriel and that’s just sad. It’s fine if you don’t like a character, but if the only reason you don’t like a character is because she’s a potential love interest, then that’s embarrassing and sad. Sometimes I feel unsafe to voice opinions and love for certain characters. This fandom doesn’t feel welcoming anymore. It honestly makes me really sad.

ohhh boy let me answer this point by point because it got me a little heated

they do realize that there's only so many dynamics between characters, right? and like it or not, az is a warrior. just as cassian and rhys are and both of their mates are warriors in their own right. they're equals to each other. despite feysand and nessian having similarities they're still entirely their own couple, just as gwynriel would be. they wouldn't be a carbon copy of nessian like they claim

if they want more soft and feminine women go... read other books? we know elain is getting a book, why are they acting like gwyn would take away from that? this is rich coming from the "feminist" side of the fandom... you know what reeks of misogyny? dragging one woman down to uplift another

they looooove bringing gwyn up and that tells me all i need to know about their true feelings, they're jealous as hell

i can only speak for myself, and to an extent my mutuals since they're the best gwynriels in existence, but yes! we love that elain is more feminine and not into killing or being a warrior. we want her to be who she truly is and find love along the way. it's e/riels who i constantly see try to change her, to mold her into a character that suits azriel better and wow... would you look at that? it's a character very similar to gwyn! what an amazing coincidence. oh yeah they never let anything go, calling elain boring or simply disliking her is a mortal sin or something to them but sending rape and death threats to people is ok in their book!

i hate the argument that gwyn is a "pick me" or "childish" like damn! don't y'all have joy in your lives? clearly not if you get this upset over a woman embracing life and doing what she finds fun with her friends. i admire gwyn for this, i'm very similar in that i react the same way to things i'm interested in, there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing what makes you happy. no matter if people think you're silly or immature or some other incorrect thing, they're the ones with a problem. here's some simple advice to anyone who wants it, don't let other people dictate what is and isn't "cool", do what you like. the right people will come along and embrace it with you

as for your last point, i agree completely. this fandom has become such a shithole and it's sad. i'm always here to listen and gush about characters with you though, ok? on anon or off or through dms, whatever you want 💖

#antielriel #anti e/riel #asks #anonymous

[panlight]

The marketed love triangle is something I still get so frustrated about. I never once got the impression that Jacob actually stood a chance as a fair love interest. I enjoyed the parts of New Moon where Bella and Jacob felt more like actual teens and I wish SM cared enough to flesh that out and actually show Bella starting to move on from Edward and seriously date Jacob. Only in fics did I get the sense that Bella cared about the wolves. I'm still so upset that SM turned Jake into a creep!

My hot take continues to be that SM ruined Jacob not because she wanted to make sure everyone saw Edward was the better choice, but BECAUSE she was trying to make him more like Edward. Not necessarily in terms of personality, but like, intensity. I think she thought that happy, sunshiney, sure sure , warm soda and candy hearts Jacob doesn't come off as a real rival to "YOU ARE MY LIFE NOW" and "MY LIFE WAS LIKE A MOONLESS NIGHT" Edward. So Jacob become Eclipse!Jacob and Seth is promoted to the role of happy sunshine boy (even though his dad just died????).

I also think the kisses are Like That because SM REALLY wanted Jacob/Bella to kiss but she didn't want Bella to "cheat" on Edward, so she had to contrive these kisses and it makes Jacob look terrible.

Did SM run head-first into a whole host of anti-native stereotypes and tropes as she did all this? Oh yes. But I don't think it was a calculated "bwahaha I'll make Jacob look bad!" thing I think it was "I will make him seem more serious and intense about his feelings! Oh and also I want them to kiss but I don't want Bella to look bad," and biases manifested in the process.

But yeah I mean it was pretty clear she was always going to choose Edward and end up as a vampire. And I agree that only in fics do I really get the sense she actual cared that much about the wolves and as I've said before I feel similarly about the Cullens; I just don't buy that she actually cared about them individually other than maybe Alice. They were just another 'perk' of becoming a vampire, an instant family to be a part of. The wolves are just a 'perk' of being Jacob's friend, another group of people willing to put their lives on the line to protect her.

I can't explain SM choice with the imprinting, though. I mean I guess in Forever Dawn when Jacob was a minor character, just a family friend with a low-level crush it wouldn't . . . okay I'd still hate it because I can't get behind imprinting on children no matter how many times SM says it's innocent. But at least it's not like Breaking Dawn, where Jacob has become a major character, one of the NARRATORS even, and then she throws out all his development as the character who championed free will and choice and humanity by having him STILL imprint on Bella's half-vampire nightmare baby as originally planned.

#ask #tw: anti native racism mention

[thecarnivorousmuffinmeta]

How would Twilight have changed if it was Bella/Jasper/Alice instead of Bella/Jacob/Edward/Alice

We'll pretend Bella smells normal, as Edward would never be normal about Bella if she didn't.

Canon doesn't happen.

Bella gets turned into a vampire immediately, as soon as Alice sees an opening, which is going to be when she's on transit to Forks before she arrives so that a disappearance is never remotely linked with the Cullens who would never have met her. "Jasper, I'm getting us a wife :D" Alice tells him one morning, much to Jasper's surprise.

There's much drama in the Cullen family as Alice out of nowhere has turned herself a bride, who is the chief of police's only daughter and he and the entire town are grieving, Edward tries to defend Alice's behavior as she's Alice and not Rosalie and her visions must have told her this was the future but... Emmett at least had been mauled by a bear and was dying, Alice plucked this teenage girl out of an airport. This is too spicy even for Edward's support of Alice and so he chooses to blame Bella for ruining everything.

Rosalie thinks Alice is the very devil despite having done something similar herself with Emmett, as, again, at least Emmett was dying and had no other options. Alice just straight up kidnapped this girl then told her she can never see her family again and is dressing her up like a doll. What the fuck, Alice?

Esme tries to be supportive though this is, um, a bit of a mess.

Carlisle wants to think Alice had a reason for doing this, that this is mate bullshit again, but he's deeply uncomfortable with all of this and trying to find ways to speak with Bella and ask if she really wants to be here. (Sadly, her only other option is eating people or the Denali, and those are terrible options Carlisle wouldn't want to offer but when you compare it to being kidnapped and turned into the Bride of Dracula then maybe a terrible option is better than this option).

Emmett's keeping out of this mess and playing both sides by agreeing with Rosalie when she talks to him and agreeing with Alice when she talks to him. This will blow over in a few months, he hopes.

As for Jasper, he's still wrapping his head around Alice telling him he's going to make love to this woman he's never met. He did it once before with Alice, but now he's married to Alice. Is this cheating? Was he going to cheat, and this was what Alice saw as the solution? Jasper isn't even sure he likes this Bella Swan as everything's too chaotic for him to even talk to her properly. He must because Alice says he loves her, but--when?

Bella, of course, is very confused and torn between being enthralled at having entered a fairy tale where she's spirited away to a beautiful creature's castle, where she's then a beautiful creature too, and being terrified because she's been turned into a beautiful creature and wait this isn't how Beauty and the Beast was supposed to go! Bella should have months, months, to get to know the beast and the enchanted castle before anything happens!

"We skipped that part," Alice assures her.

Alice then gaslights Bella into believing that she is in love with Alice and Jasper both, and she should definitely have threesomes with them, while also gaslighting Jasper that she forgives Jasper for being in love with Bella because Alice is in love with Bella too.

Bella decides this is a great, modern, progressive fairy tale she's found herself in.

#twilight #twilight meta #twilight headcanon #twilight renaissance #twilight shipping #bella swan #jasper whitlock #alice cullen #anti alice cullen #bella/alice #anti bella/alice #bella/jasper #anti bella/jasper #bella/alice/jasper #anti bella/alice/jasper #meta #headcanon #opinion #shipping

[lavender-at-heart]

Velvet and Lace

Part 1 : The Invitation

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Pairing: Aro Volturi × fem!OC

AN: while this is a oc series I am purposely limiting descriptive elements so it may be read as a reader insert. I don't know how long this series will be, I also haven't posted on here in so long. Please give me feedback and wish me luck! Thanks for reading/engaging!

Warnings: none for this chapter

Word count: 710

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A year. I haven't been to Forks in a year. I spent my entire life thinking that it was everything, now I'm not so sure. I miss my home more than anything, but the wonders I have seen while away. I can only imagine what those quiet town folk will think of my stories. My reason for returning? An envelope that arrived to my hotel room in Bankok. Simple, off white paper with silver etchings that read the following:

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Isabella Marie Swan

And

Edward Anthony Masen Cullen

Together with their families, request the honor of your presence at the celebration of their marriage.

Saturday the thirteenth of August, two thousand and eleven, five O'clock in the evening

420 Woodcroft Ave

Forks, WA

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I could hardly believe the words as they spilled from my mouth. My sister, married? My sweet, anti-social, 18 year old sister? Yes I'm aware that she had found herself a boyfriend, our phone calls over the past year have been of nothing else, it seems. It's so unlike her, but nevertheless I am giddy. Later that evening I recive a phone call from the bride herself, bestowing upon me the title of maid of honor.

When I first met Edward Cullen, I was surprised. I never had any classes with him since he was a grade bellow me, but he always seemed off. His whole family did, which became the talk of the town for months and months. The rest of his siblings seemed relatively well rounded, with sharp minds and passionate interests. I became acquainted with Emmett and Rosalie during our shared English class. Rosalie, while much more reserved than Emmet, was always helpful and kind. We never became friends outside of school but I was shocked to find out that she had a disdain for Bella (I would later realize that this was due to me not trying to stick my nose into vampire business, although I would have if I had known that the Cullens were supernatural beings.) Emmett was very sociable, we didn't have much in common but I was glad to have such a friendly classmate.

After the shock of the wedding died down, I booked a plane ticket home as soon as possible. My father, Charlie, would pick me up from the airport. I would get to see Bella. Gosh. I haven't seen her in person since I left. Bella, one year younger than me, has always lived with our mother. That was the agreement. She went of to sunny Arizona and I started in the rain. I always liked the rain though, and I always liked Forks. Right before I started grade 12, Bella moved here. And I loved it. I had never been happier. But that only lasted so long. Bella got caught up with her vampire-like boyfriend and I started feeling a horrible longing to leave. I made the decision, much to my father's dismay, to take a gap year. Travel. I had been working at the diner after school since grade 9 and I had saved almost all of the money I made. My favorite thing about Bellas new beau was his family. They were quite lovely people, although strange, and they helped me quite a bit with my travels. Alice, the only one who I had become moderately close to, aswell as Mr. and Mrs. Cullen, had filled my mind with many inspirations for my travels. They also gave me some extra money to help make it as fulfilling as possible, despite me protesting about 100 times. By the end of grade twelve I was itching to leave. My itinerary was stacked, I planned to stay in Europe for two months and the rest in Asia. I cherished the cathedrals in Germany , the busy streets in Mumbai, the quiet ashrams in India, sights of Nepal, Vietnam, Italy, France, and now Thailand. I have come away from this trip with a bigger sense of the world, and myself. But now I've grown rather homesick from shuffling village to village, my sense of adventure has been filled and I'm ready for peace and simplicity. I think I'm ready to go home. Little did I know that returning to the middle of nowhere, Washington, would lead me on the greatest adventure of my life.

END

Thanks for making it to the end! <3 -CC

#twilight #twilight fanfiction #twilight series #twilight oc #oc series #aro volturi #aro volturi x reader #aro volturi x oc #aro volturi fanfiction #aro volturi series #bella swan #bella swan x sister #michael sheen #michael sheen x oc #michael sheen x reader

[goldeneyedgirl]

12 kisses: february: french, infidelity-verse.

Something a little different for Valentine's Day this year. Beautlilies got to pick which 'verse this fic was set in, and she chose my most cursed one - infidelity-verse. Maybe this counts for an anti-VDay fic?

Either way, I hope you enjoy it!

twelve kisses. february: infidelity-verse [ french ] a deep, passionate kiss with the use of tongue

It’s impulsive and stupid and he’s going to regret it. 

But he kisses her. 

He kisses her in a way that he hasn’t for a long time (he can admit that). He’s digging deep in his memory and the last time they kissed like this had to have been before they found the Cullens; the hal cyon days of their relationship. The kiss is deep and desperate like she’s the thing sustaining him, his hands cradling her head. 

And she kisses him back. Not with the same desperation, but she does kiss him back. She does lean into him. 

And its hope, pure and simple. Hope that there’s still enough of them left to salvage something. Hope for himself that it’s all going to be alright, that he’s learnt and he’ll never be that person that drives her away bit by excruciating bit again. 

(He’s learning - learnt - that he turned her into something she wasn’t. He treated her like an extension of himself, when she was always a person of her own. He taught her shame and anxiety and self-loathing and resentment. He taught her loneliness and inferiority. He thinks of the thin, faint lines of scarring on the tops of her thighs, from her scratching into her own skin in moments of worry and tension. They are shallow and thin, something he could feel more than he could see. She was never meant to be this. She was supposed to be lightness and joy and peace.)

He kisses her like it’s the last time and the first time and all the times he should have kissed her like he loved her. Loves her, because he does. She was just a convenient avatar for his self-loathing; he hated himself, so he hated and scorned the one person who saw any value in him. 

And then he pulls back, resting his forehead against hers. He wants to promise her anything - he won’t go back to the Cullens, to America. He’ll stay here, with her. They can be housemates, they don’t need to be anything. He can be her bodyguard, in case anyone comes sniffing around. She’s a foreign, solitary vampire; a prime target even if she wasn’t so slight. 

But he says nothing. He waits for her words, for her benediction or condemnation like a man at the gallows. 

“Hmm,” she says softly, sweetly, a smile playing at her lips. “Maria not answering your calls, huh?”

It’s like a blow, a cut right down and through the meat of him. It hurts, and the kind of wound that makes him defensive. He wants to demand why she has to say these things, why she can’t just… let something happen, let them heal, without lashing out at him?

And then he’s ashamed of himself because she’s only speaking the truth that’s she’s never dared say aloud before, when she was his hostage. Alice deserves to be angry, has the right to be furious. She could have slapped him for touching her. She didn’t have to invite him here, to her sanctuary, to talk. But she did. That’s important. 

“No,” he seas, and his mouth feels dry. “I… this is about you. I love you, I always have. I just treated you like shit. You know this, I don’t need to say it. I… there will never be a time when I don’t want another chance. I know I don’t deserve one, but…”

Alice sits back and studies him. “Do you want a reconciliation or do you just want my forgiveness, Jasper?” She finally asks. “Those are two very, very different things. And neither of them are start with a kiss like that.”

He doesn’t know what to say to that. Except…

“I love you. I always have. And I want us to have that future you saw all those years ago. I want us to be happy for real. Not just… treading water.”

Alice sighs, but she doesn’t move away. She looks tired and she’s… she’s changed since she left. She looks older; the gentle trust and innocence has bled out of her face. 

“There’s no formula or schedule to fix this, Jas,” she says softly, looking at her shoes. “Just time and space and communication. And even then, I can’t promise you anything. 

“I don’t need a promise. I just need to know if you’re willing to give me one more chance.”

One more chance. How many times has he asked for that? He doesn’t know. 

But he can hope. 

#alice cullen #jasper hale #jalice #my fic: infidelity #alice is done with nonsense #jasper is realising he needs intense therapy #it's a mess #angst #my fic: 12kisses meme

[waldensblog]

Jacob: There hasn’t been a pack since my great grandfather’s generation, but one thing we do know for sure is that vampires don’t like when you kill their mates.

Bella: Edward killed James, who was Victoria’s mate.

Jacob: Aha, this all makes sense now.

The literal 100+ year old Cullen family, upon returning to Forks and finding out Victoria has been hunting Bella since they left:

#the twilight saga #new moon #how did you NOT KNOW COME ON #Carlisle you are OVER 300 YEARS OLD AND YOU DIDNT KNOW?!?! #Edward didnt know and apparently NONE OF HIS FAMILY had a braincell between them to consider the possibility?!?! #anti Cullens #anti Carlisle Cullen #anti Edward Cullen #Anti Alice Cullen #Anti Emmett Cullen #Anti Rosalie Hale #Anti Jasper Hale #Anti Esme Cullen #Jacob Black

[cto10121]

Twilight Clown Takes—Part 5

Featuring not only fan dumb but anti fan dumb, which is arguably worse, Team Jacob dumb, and just another whole set of clownery. Without further ado, let’s get to it.

Anti Fan Dumb

“I own all the Twilight books and movies and have made custom T-shirts but also Twilight is garbage and it’s not hypocritical or bullying to say so!!1!!1 😡”

(Also, Twilight’s themes and even plot are anything but simple. There are so many interpretive lens you could apply, even critical lit crit ones, it’s dizzying. Like R&J, it only seems to be that way because people assume romance = dumb. Because they think romance = women, and women are inferior. It’s Sexism 101.)

This is going to sound truly crazy, but hear me out…if you don’t like something, just don’t engage with it? Ignore it???? Go be a fan of literally anything else????Out there, I know.

“I got what I wanted and I still hated it!!1!!11 😡”

Meyer Is Racist Round ♾️

…You know, I honestly can’t tell what this comment is supposed to aver. “Meyer’s portrayal is racist but also her series was ahead of its time in its portrayal of NA characters”????? Idek.

Anyway, it’s canon that Forks is neutral territory for both Cullens and the werewolves, so them looking after Charlie should be fine (I know Jacob says differently in New Moon but I have a feeling it is because of Alice’s presence—there is definitely a “we won’t be anywhere near you” component to the treaty). In Midnight Sun Edward says specifically it’s a five mile radius from the Cullens’ house.

There are so much wrong with this one sentence, it’s breathtaking. As in, I can’t breathe from choking with laughter.

1) “Despite its”—Because of, you idiot. It was Meyer’s success in tapping into ancient and nigh universal tropes and modernizing them without diluting their power.

2) Just because Twilight doesn’t have sex doesn’t mean it is chaste. There is nothing chaste about the erotic and sexual tension Meyer builds. It is literally off the charts.

3) “Forbidden love” and “steep imbalance of power” are not opposites. On the contrary, they are complementary. Literally every forbidden love romance has that aspect. Even Romeo and Juliet with its beautiful relationship of equals has Romeo’s privilege raised as male vs. Juliet’s raised as female. And yes, it does affect their tragedy.

4) “Damsel—” She is a human amid vampires and werwolves, idiot. Of course she is not going to girlboss her way out of danger. That would have been a one-way ticket to literal death. And she would have deserved it, for being too stupid to live. But Bella is not an idiot; she has more wit in her elbow than any of her antis combined.

Team Jacob Dumb

Ugh, kill this fanon with fire.

Meyer makes it clear that Bella is not attracted to all vampires the same way she is attracted to Edward. She isn’t taken in by James, she isn’t fooled by Laurent, and the vampires in Breaking Dawn are referred to in fairly basic terms. Even the way she describes the Cullens’ beauty differs—Carlisle’s and even Rosalie’s beauty (!!) she likens to Hollywood and Sports Magazine respectively. Very clichéd and emotionally empty descriptions. Most tellingly of all, she doesn’t describe other vampiric scents at all.

Meanwhile every little thing Edward does makes this girl cream. His voice, his scent, his crooked smile, his windswept bronze hair…because she’s in love with him, duh.

You may have had a point some years ago, Clown OP. Unfortunately for you, we now have Midnight Sun. There Edward does correctly guess Bella’s thoughts and feelings around 80-90% of the time. The only time when he’s consistently off is her attraction to him. He, like Bella, just sells himself short, as he relies on his mind reading too much.

Even if it were true that Jacob just naturally gets Bella better…in actual practice it’s mostly due to the fact that they are much closer in age. So their brand of humor (the running joke about ages, banter, the Simpsons allusion in Breaking Dawn) and style of communication are not that different (hence why Bella thinks he is so easy to talk to). Bella can truly be a regular 17-year-old with Jacob, and that is understandably attractive for a parentified teen.

Aside from that, though, Bella/Jacob don’t have much in common. Bella’s tomboyishness begins and ends with her truck and stretches to its limit to motorcycles. Otherwise she is a parentified class-conscious bookish Austenite and Jacob is your basic mechanic native boy who by all accounts is perfectly fine at the rez. He takes care of his father, but his situation is far from being as parentified as Bella.

Overall Edward is much closer to Bella in personality and likes than Jacob—he just has the disadvantage of being born in a different time and living a hundred years. Also, Jacob’s understanding of Bella doesn’t translate very well into respect for her—see forced kiss and manipulative second kiss.

Edward Hate Dumb

…I’ll give it to this one, this clownery almost sounds like a legit criticism. Almost.

First of all, it is clear beyond the shadow of a doubt that Edward would have never given up on Bella. Even when he left her he always planned to return and see how she was doing. In Midnight Sun he confesses that had he seen New Moon!Bella in her screaming nightmares he would have woken her up and stayed with her. And in Eclipse he tells Jacob explicitly that even if Bella did choose him he would always “be waiting in the wings,” seeing if she was okay and happy and watching out if Jacob imprinted on someone else.

So no, Edward would always be there for Bella, if just in his stalkerish way. That’s the problem with Edward, or what he feels is a problem: He wants to be this noble hero, but he is a simp at heart. He and Romeo could go neck to neck just on love clownery alone.

For fuck’s sake—

1) Edward telling Bella he cannot live without her is not and never was manipulative. For such a thing to be manipulative he would have said it in order to convince Bella to stay with him. He never does; he says it only as a simple statement of fact. Actually, Edward preferred Bella living her life as human—with or without him—so long as she is happy. That was literally his original plan except for Bella’s horror of growing older.

2) Edward actually does accept—deep down, but he does—Bella’s desire to be a vampire, even if he disagreed with it. He even accepted his family’s vote to turn Bella into a vampire quite fast. That’s because deep down, despite himself…Edward actually does want Bella to be with him forever. He just thinks it’s selfish of him to pursue that especially when he believes that humanity would be so much better for Bella. How do we know this? He admits this explicitly in Eclipse when Bella says she is afraid Edward doesn’t want her to become a vampire because he doesn’t want her to stick around for a millennia.

3) “Coercion” For fuck’s sake, it was just a proposal. Bella was free to reject it or negotiate (which she did! And Edward accepted her rejection!). Y’know, what actual irl couples do.

4) Ugh, I’m sick of these clowns whining about Edward dismantling her truck. Yes, it was shitty!!! Bella was annoyed and angry!!! He apologized for it!!! He said he was wrong to stop her and would not impede her from going to La Push from then on!!!! It’s called character development!!!!

Clown OP knows Twilight is horribly written because they’ve never read it. Works for me! Into the clownery bin you go.

#twilight clown takes #twilight clownery #anti anti twilight #preserve me #team jacob dumb #edward hate dumb #🤝 romeo hate dumb tbh #bella hate dumb is still the strongest tho #for obvious reasons

[virginiawerewoolfwazhere]

Twilight Is So Straight, It’s Gay: An Exploration of Camp and the Unintended Queerness of Twilight

Camp aesthetic is a visual movement that communicates appeal through what would be considered tacky iconography, prescribing value (whether good or bad) through the irony of ugliness or gaudiness.  It is theatrical, over-the-top, and dramatic. Campiness has long been tied inextricably to queer culture. Queer films little known to heteronormative society such as Debs, and, But I’m a Cheerleader, or even ubiquitous cult classics to the tune of The Rocky Horror Picture Show, and, Hedwig and the Angry Inch are undeniably campy. Within these works, the performance of heterosexuality is unsettling and seems unnatural due to the theatricality of the relationships (one only has to see But I’m a Cheerleader’s Natasha Lyonne drowning in the mouth of her character’s football playing boyfriend during a make-out session to see what I mean here). This type of camp is intentional and pointed. However, the performance of heteronormativity can easily fall into the realm of camp without intending to.

Stephanie Meyer’s Twilight Saga is never intentionally Queer; in fact, there’s not even a whiff of overt gayness to be found in the behemoth four book teen melodrama. Edward Cullen and the rest of his vampire family, as well as the rest of the town of Forks seem to be one hundred percent heterosexual. But since its release in 2008, and especially since the 2020 Twilight “renaissance”, Twilight has accumulated a steadfast and growing queer following, leading to packed midnight showings of the films, memes, fan art, and more. Twilight’s over-performance of heterosexuality whilst simultaneously destabilizing aesthetic gender constructs places the series firmly, if unintentionally, within the campy queer classics canon.

            Judith Butler’s Gender Trouble states,

“heterosexuality offers normative sexual positions that are intrinsically impossible to embody… both a compulsory system and an intrinsic comedy, a constant parody of itself…” (155).

Heterosexuality that does not have reproduction as a teleological goal is by nature not heterosexual, if society were to agree with the purpose of sexual desire as defined by anti-gay movements. In Twilight, the vampires are considered to be extremely sexually attractive, but in their current form, they cannot reproduce sexually. The relationships between vampires Alice and Jasper, Rosalie and Emmett, and, Carlisle and Esme, are now queer, because they are

“contesting the categories of sex or, at least, not in compliance with the normative presuppositions and purposes of that set of categories” (156).  

However, that’s not to say that sexual anatomy and reproduction defines gender or sexuality. For Butler, the performance of gender in queer relationships has to do with the destabilization of perceived gender constructs as they come into “erotic interplay” (157). A femme lesbian being sexually attracted to only cis-gendered women, but also being aroused by a butch lesbian’s performance of masculinity, is an example of that erotic interplay.  This becomes even more expansive in contemporary queer discourse, as we start to understand the performance of gender beyond the binary of men and women. Edward and Bella embody this destabilization through each of their gender crossing attributes. When Bella first witnesses Edward’s vampiric skin when it interacts with sunlight, she narrates,

“his skin, white despite the faint flush from yesterday’s hunting trip, literally sparkled, like thousands of tiny diamonds were embedded in the surface…his shirt open over his incandescent chest, his scintillating arms bare.” (Meyer 260).

Bella later goes on to say, “I would have liked to lie back, as he did, and let the sun warm my face. But I stayed curled up, my chin resting on my knees unwilling to take my eyes off of him” (260).

Edward becomes the object of sexual desire for Bella, subverting the narrative convention of the female being the focus of male desire.  

Masculine presenting people wearing glitter and being desired sexually is an intersection of the erotic interplay of gender performances. Edward is meant to be at his most beautiful when he’s in the sun. Meyer’s reasoning for his beauty is that it makes him, according to Edward himself, a perfect predator. He says,

“Everything about me invites you in – my voice, my face, even my smell” (263).

Meyer’s vampires use the erotic interplay of masculinity embodying elements of feminine presentation as an example of the ideal form of sexual desire, and therefore are able to seduce their prey before killing them. It is reminiscent, in some ways, of the seduction of Janet and Brad by Dr. Frank N. Furter, whose own drag aesthetic is considered to be erotic to all of the characters in The Rocky Horror Picture Show at one point or another.  

Edward and Bella are also transgressive due to the differences in their species. Edward states many times throughout their will-they or won’t-they courtship that their being together is a bad idea. In fact, he likens it to a predator falling in love with its prey; in the same scene where Bella sees his sparkly skin for the first time. He says,

“And so the lion fell in love with the lamb” (273),

noting the innate perverseness of their love. Vampire stories have been linked to queerness for nearly two centuries. Dracula leads the way with the homoerotic subtext between The Count and Jonathan Harker in Bram Stokers 1897 novel, something that is essentially canonized in the BBC adaptation from 2020. In the series, Sister Agatha Van Helsing asks Harker if he had “sexual intercourse with Count Dracula” and he remembers back to a dream he had at the castle where his sexual fantasies of Mina shift into a sexual fantasy of Dracula. The series ends with Van Helsing and Dracula together in their own sexual fantasy, which shows the way transgressive sexuality is eroticized in the vampire plot. Van Helsing hates Dracula for his cruelty, but is still attracted to him. Edward lacks Dracula’s cruelty, but his monstrous status has in actuality turned him into an ideal beauty. Bella is attracted to him in part because of his inhumanity, describing his face as angelic or godlike (Meyer 262). Her attraction to Edward is transgressive in a similar way Agatha Van Helsing’s obsession with Dracula is transgressive.

            In a pivotal scene in both the book and the later 2008 adaptation starring Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson, the vampire family plays a game of baseball together. The Cullen family can only play baseball during a thunderstorm, due to their super vampire strength (apparently they can hit a baseball hard enough to be mistaken for a crack of thunder, but yet the ball remains completely intact). Baseball seems to be a fairly all American, wholesome, straightforward activity. However, the way the Cullen family plays is decidedly theatrical. Everything they do is over the top and extra, from their vehicles;

“They circled around Rosalie’s red convertible, unmistakable lust in their eyes” (Meyer 222),

to Edward’s piano playing, to baseball. Everything is designed to make them stand out, and apart from the rest of the town. They are the monstrous other, even if they never actually drink human blood. Their everyday activities are performance.

            The Cullen family is theatrical in all things, but especially in romantic partnerships. The first night Bella and Edward ever spend together, she tells him that she loves him. He responds with,

“‘You are my life now’” (314),

which is an intense confession to make after one kiss and a sleepover. Throughout the rest of the novels, Edward and Bella remain obsessed with each other to the point of suicide. In the second installment, New Moon Edward believes Bella has died, and tries to kill himself. He says to Bella,

“I wasn’t going to live without you,” (Meyer 263).

In the last installment, Breaking Dawn, when Bella almost dies (again), he forms a suicide pact with Jacob where he wishes for Jacob to kill him if Bella doesn’t survive. He tells Jacob,

“the moment Bella’s heart stops beating, I’ll be begging you to kill me” (Meyer 70).

The theatricality of their relationship, along with the transgressive nature of the vampire plot, turns displays of heterosexuality into unintentional camp. This, paired with the erotic interplay of gender performances, shows us that Twilight is so straight, it’s gay.