#especially dean's ketch's and cas' | Explore Tumblr Posts and Blogs

aerialworms · 1 year

Text

+ bonus Midam :)

(Shoutout to @bloodydeanwinchester for inspiring this, although I’m 75% sure this has been done before 😅 ID under the readmore!)

[Image ID: A series of screenshots of the Supernatural characters paired with the answers from a Buzzfeed quiz. The first image is the title of the quiz: “...would you fuck a clone of yourself?”

2. Sam Winchester, looking weirded out at his alternate self in 15.13 Destiny’s Child, answers “I don't want to fuck my clone because it would be gay sex and I'm not gay.”

3. Eileen Leahy, smirking at Sam in 15.07 Last Call, answers “I'm not gay, but I would actually totally fuck my clone.”

4. Jack Kline, looking baffled in 13.01 Lost and Found, answers “I'm gay, but I still don't want to fuck my clone, that's gross and weird.”

5. Castiel, looking scared as the Empty yells at him in 13.04 The Big Empty, answers “I don't want to fuck my clone because my self-loathing is THAT strong.”

6. Crowley, looking suggestively at Dean in a bar in 9.11 First Born, answers “I'd fuck my clone because who would know better how to fuck ME than ME?“

7. Dean, handcuffed on the floor in Endverse Dean’s cabin in 5.04 The End, tells his alternate self “I'd totally do all sorts of weird things to my clone I'd be embarrassed to ask someone else to do.”

8. Arthur Ketch in 13.07 War of the Worlds, pretending to be his twin, Alexander, answers “It's basically the same as masturbating, right? So no big deal.”

9. Mary Winchester yells at Ketch “It's not the same as masturbating; it'd be like having sex with your twin. Wrong and bad!”

10. Good!Charlie Bradbury from 10.11 There’s No Place Like Home says “I would not have sex with my clone because what if my clone is evil.” except the “what if” has been crossed out.

11. Mustachioed Gabriel from the Casa Erotica DVD in 5.19 Hammer of the Gods answers “Not only would I have sex with my clone, I'd probably make a bunch of clones and just get it on with all of them at once because that's how pro-clone fucking I am.”

12. Chuck, in 11.20 Don’t Call Me Shurley, shrugs and tells Metatron “I'd totally fuck my clone because I want to know if I'm good in bed.”

13. From the start of 9.18 Meta Fiction, Metatron tells the viewer “To be honest, fucking my clone has always been my fantasy.“

14. Michael and Adam on their dinner date in 15.08 Our Father, Who Aren’t In Heaven. Their answer is simply “Yes.”

All the images are watermarked with the creator’s url, “@aerialworms”. /End ID]

#whoo boy i spent way too long on this #worth it though #spn #memes #and now for the tagging jesus christ #sammy #eileen leahy #jack the baby god #castiel #deannnnnn #king of hell #ketch #mary winchester #charlie bradbury #gabe the babe #midam #i added the episodes in the id because i spent ages finding the perfect screenshots #from relevant scenes (or as relevant as i could make them)#especially dean's ketch's and cas'#and sam and charlie's #and of course the midam one because they're canon #the amount of doppelgangers on this show is insane #i also wanted to include that one shapeshifter that turned into mary while ketch was torturing him but alas mary's faces weren't any good #for the answer i wanted to pair her with #also SORRY if i left out anyone's faves i was going off vibes #metatron wants to fuck himself (affectionate) and the rest of us want him to fuck himself (derogatory)#and chuck's an insecure little bastard #also that's the scene where he was talking about how he'd slept with girls AND guys #eileen's 'i'm not gay' means 'i'm bi'#original poast

706 notes · View notes

spnfanficpond · 4 months

Text

November/December 2023 Angel Fish Awards

(Angel Fish design by @slytherkins!!)

Every month all of you fantastic writers work your asses off to post some truly incredible stories. Our Angel Fish Awards are the way for all of us, as a community of writers and readers, to lift each other up and give praise to those who have captured our attention and deserve a few kind words. (Click here to learn more about how to nominate a fic for an award!)

Nominated by @deanwinchesterswitch

Five-Finger Discount by @talltalesandbedtimestories

This story is so smartly written - so many fantastic descriptions and lines of dialogue and it flows so beautifully. I didn’t want it to end. If you don't already have an obsession with Dean's hands, you will by the end of this fic.

~*~*~

Nominated by @annahmiraculousmillenium

A New Form by Kenophobia (AO3)

I'm nominating this story because it introduced me to a new tag I really like now: "Shapeshifter Dean" Sam is bossy (and Dean actually obeys!) Bobby is in there! John dies! And other cool things I don't want to spoil. Also, it's gen.

~*~*~

Nominated by @glygriffe

Said the Salmon to the Sea by @bendingsignpost

A mesmerizing (or mermaid-rising?) Dean-centric story about change, about the fact that it comes whether we want it to or not, and how the heck we deal with it. “If this is as far as we can go, it’s as far as we can go,” Dean says with a heavy shrug. Slowly, Sam says, “It’s as far as I can go.” “Yeah, that’s what I just said.”

The Angel of Emetgis V by Kayliemanlinza (AO3)

I read this as part of the Dean/Cas Reversebang 2022 (with beautiful art by @missaceriee) and the concept of true-form Castiel as an alien meeting "grease-monkey" Dean in deep space is compelling as much as how love is expressed between species. (Here is the original DCRB post that made me discover the story)

~*~*~

Nominated by @heavenssexiestangel

Unlikely by @apocalypseornaw

This story was written for me for the Secret Santa hosted on the Pond. It's a lovely fic with Ketch/GN!Reader, something there kind of is a lack of (both with GN and Male reader inserts). And like, also with Ketch lol it was a really nice pick-me-up as I'm not having the best of times right now, and it made me read an author I didn't know before, so it's a win-win Situation!

Follow That Car! by Mrs_SimonTam_PHD (AO3)

A really nice, short Ketch/Dean story with a side of murder. "I wish to fuck you, Dean" is forever embedded in my brain.

~*~*~

Nominated by @mrswhozeewhatsis

Spotless by @stusbunker

This is a Dean x reader AU with SO MUCH DELICIOUS PINING!!!! And now Bela's involved! And the reader gets to watch Dean and Bela make heart eyes at each other!! SO MUCH YUMMY ANGST!!!

~*~*~

Nominated by @salt-n-burn-em-all

Care and Feeding by foolishgames (AO3)

Sam is somehow turned into a cat. The best stories are the first and last ones if you are not an S/D reader, then can be read as mostly Gen.

Dissecting the Bird by nigeltde (AO3)

♥♥♥ Just right.

The Witch and the Wolfen by meus_venator (AO3)

I love everything about this story- meus has an amazing talent and this is one I reread often- plus, it just got a second story!

Sounds Like Truth Feels Like Courage by Sprinkle888 (AO3)

Well-written SPN story. Gen, no pairing, but it doesn’t need one. Sam binds them together with some MoL magic rings and finding out how they work is a riot. Some angst, temp character death, but ends happily. 10/10 recommend. Also posted on my Tumblr.

~*~*~

Nominated by @spn-fanfic-reblog-writes

Slither by Tiamatv (AO3)

I absolutely love this story! The show of cultural differences between Dean and Castiel that even the reader will miss the cues. Lol! The conversation about sex was hilarious especially since Dean doesn’t ask. 😂 Wait until you read the word “clasp”. Poor Dean. Look up the word: hemipene. This stems all the hilarity in the fic. Just wait. Just wait. It’s hilarious!! SPOILER: Castiel is a naga refugee that is half human and half beautiful snake, and Sam basically “adopted” him as a charity project that turns into Dean’s charity project that ends up making him very happy very quickly.

Rubber Duckie Boots by Hexentaenzerin (AO3)

This such an adorable meet-cute. I love it! I also love that Dean wears rubber duckie boots while videoing carpet cleaning videos for his business, which Castiel absolutely loves to watch. Just can’t get enough of seeing Dean in those boots. Castiel even buys a rug to try to get Dean to notice him. **squee** It’s great! The ending is so Dean and Castiel. ❤️❤️❤️

Weighted by Tiamatv and amireal (AO3)

I absolutely love this fic because I actually sleep with a weighted blanket and when my kids are sick, they love their own. I even have one in the car. It’s light but enough to feel it. This is just so fluffy and romantic all thanks to our favorite redhead introducing weighted blankets which helps so much. It’s been shown to even help babies but blankets aren’t great for them. Anyway, they’re so cute and that scene where Dean opens his eyes all slow and gentle with “hey”, just broke me. My husband and I do that periodically and it just means more snuggles and sleep. lol. Poor Castiel thinking he couldn’t have Dean which I understand since Dean has said so much he is straight or implied it rather often. Ugh. This was done so well. I admit I wish there was more especially with Dean exploring this new aspect of himself and with Castiel. Curious to see what their bumps in the road are and how they handle it.

Close Encounter of the Fourth Kind by Fathersalmon (AO3)

First, this is smut. Second. It is fucking hilarious! I rarely find crack in smut. You have to read this hilarity. Dean’s sassy mouth is just amazing in this while Castiel just ignores him. 🤣 If you want to laugh, read this!

Firelight Glow by bleuzombie (AO3)

I just love how it progresses and the ending is great though. It’s so sweet and fluffy. Their connection is so tangible the reader can feel it like the characters do. It also has Trans Dean Winchester, which I always love to read, especially by @bleuzombie who knows how to write them so authentically and truthfully.

~*~*~

Nominated by @spencereliotwinchester

Stray Hearts by blujay44 (AO3)

It's definitely a weird one, but I really like how fluffy it is. Really, though, it's weird... but it's a feel-good one, especially when Jensen comforts Jared.

Pastiche (orphaned work on AO3)

This is literally one of my favorite SPN fics ever. I reread it a lot. Features Autistic!Jensen and loveable goldenretriever Jared who just wants to get to know his neighbor.

Flash by ellia (AO3)

Short, sweet, almost possessive... Also features my two favorite boys: Jensen and Christian.

For the Taking by veronamay (AO3)

Steamy, sexy, bdsm, Jared and Jensen. What more could you ask for??

~*~*~

Nominated by @mariekoukie6661

House of the Rising Son by @kittenofdoomage

I really love the idea of Sam and Dean being the bad guys! The story as a whole is so goood!

Blood and Honey by @kittenofdoomage

Dark!Winchesters are my favorite kind of tropes! This is such a great story, very well written!

Baklavas For Your Birthday by @cloverhighfive

This is very cute!!!

Muddy Soul by @impala-dreamer

This is so good! Its very dark at times and you absolutely need to mind the tags! But this is such a great series!

Strangers by @smellingofpoetry

Very cute story!! I liked it!!!

I am my beloved’s and my beloved’s mine by @heavenssexiestangel

Very cute! Very fluffy!!!! I liked it!!!!

THANK YOU ALL, KEEP UP THE AMAZING WORK, AND AS ALWAYS, HAPPY WRITING!

- From your Admins and Manta Rays, @manawhaat, @mrswhozeewhatsis, @mariekoukie6661, @thoughtslikeaminefield, @spencereliotwinchester, and @heavenssexiestangel!

27 notes · View notes

shallowseeker · 3 months

Text

OMG, ANOTHER THING ABOUT THIS EPISODE

Two seconds after Mick Davies is talking about a code, we see Ketch kill Madga, the girl Sam bonded with, and he shoots her in the chest.

Emma parallel????

12x16

Emma parallel???? Emma parallel????

When Sam kills Emma, Sam is psychologically wounded, becoming obsessed with stabbing his heels into the dirt and makes the job as black-and-white as possible. He's also, at the time, trying to pt a CODE in practice.

He becomes obsessed with "not choking."

He accuses Dean of choking because he's become so afraid for all of their safety, especially with all that's happened...

...NOT TO MENTION Dean's grief terrifies Sam in the same way John's grief did.

Sam is a bit like Bobby in this regard. Im response to recent trauma, his psychological-wound-of-the-moment sways in the direction of, "Be ruthless, abide by a code, and whatever you do, don't die."

SAM: You know what? Bobby was right. Your head's not in it, man. When Cas died, you were wobbly, but now... DEAN: Now what? Oh, what, you're dealing with it so perfect? Yeah, news flash, pal – you're just as screwed up as I am! You're just... bigger. SAM: What?! DEAN: I don't know. SAM: Look... Dean, the thing is, tonight... It almost got you killed. Now, I don't care how you deal. I really, really don't. But just don't – don't get killed.

There's something about codes and fear, huh.

#magda #parallels #spn 12x16 #emma #sam #ketch #the code #the cause #sam ketch parallels

7 notes · View notes

elasgottoomuchfreetime · 1 year

Text

My brain divides SPN into several… i don’t know… Sections? Seven to be exact (I think).

Season 1-2

Season 3 (cuz I always forget it)

Season 4-5

Season 6-10

Season 11-12

Season 13-14

Season 15

At this point I’m in fact not sure, why it’s like that? But between these sections it felt/feel like something changed, like a new book began or smth like that.

I am personally fond of 4-5 and very fond of 6-10.

The first two seasons seem like a separate thing to me because it‘s like, what they originally wanted the show to be about i think? The Prologue or smth so to speak.

Season 3, I never know what happened there, when we rewatched it I was frequently like „Oh! That was season 3?“. There’s just not much that really sticks out? Besides Dean going to hell maybe. Which I only remember because Cas pulled him out in 4.

Seasons 4-5, the apocalypse, I think I liked the concept of it? Dean & Cas‘s chemistry of course, Lucifer, the angels. I just enjoyed it.

Seasons 6-10, Cas betraying the boys, the Leviathans, Sam being soulless, Purgatory, Benny, Dean having a Crisis every other episode, Charlie, Metatron, Rowena, Alex, Donna being introduced, Claire being reintroduced, Crowley, the Mark of Cain- all examples of concepts & characters I adore. There is a distinct change after Season 5 was over, in Dean and Cas’s characters especially. Probably because it was supposed to end after S5? Whatever, I really enjoyed that. It was fun.

Season 11-12, I don’t remember much? I think it was the Amara/Darkness & Men of Letters Arc thing? The concept of the Darkness was nice. God, Lucifer and the whole squad teaming up to get rid of her was kinda cool I guess? Ketch was… I don’t know a little weird at first but I got used to him? Never grew overly fond of Mary’s character. Jack‘s birth of course was… something. Over all neutral ig. I don’t know why this is distinct for me, but I feel like something changed after 10 was over, can’t put my finger on it though.

Season 13-14, I’m currently watching 14, I think the whole parenting thing with Jack they‘ve got going on is nice. I‘m currently enjoying the whole Micheal trying to destroy the earth & possessing Dean arc and whatever the hell is going on with Nick. Gabriel coming back in 13 and the girl squad with Donna, Jody and the kids feeling more… prominent (?) was fun. What changed here is probably conditioned by Jack being added as a character. I like him, but it kinda changed the dynamic I guess? Also because it kinda conditioned everything that happened afterwards.

Season 15, I haven’t watched it yet. From what it looks like Dean’s character gets ruder than I‘m used to? Especially to Cas? Then there‘s the Destiel confession (that I naturally know about) and the weird way Dean dies in the end. Even though I haven’t seen it yet it already kinda feels like they were hastily trying to rip the whole thing off kind of abruptly? Correct me if I’m wrong. I‘ll report back when I watched it, currently I’m rewatching in German (currently S6) with my mother who hasn’t seen the show yet.

I don’t know what this is supposed to be? I think I just wanted to rant about this whole section thing in my mind and how/why I like said said sections. Maybe also for me to write it down and make up my mind about this stuff, because as I’m rewatching the show I’m reflecting and thinking about stuff a little bit more.

If you want to you can add on with your own opinions on the seasons & how/if you section them. Or if you can/want to add any bonus information.

I enjoy reading other people’s opinions & takes.

Anyway have a nice day. And thanks for reading.

41 notes · View notes

ruinedsam · 2 years

Note

re: your last post

now I'm curious 😭😭

Ok but don't say I didn't warn you 😱

Tw for being a hater

Agree with you regarding Claire, she's insufferable. The thing is, her character actually had potential, she would have been ideal to show and really put a face to the collateral damage Sam, Dean and Cas leave behind...this whole wanting to become a hunter and being all budddy buddy with team free will makes no sense

I really liked Charlie in s7, but then the Sam antis in the writers room took her character over :(

Bobby has a few good moments but mostly I can't stand him because of how he treats Sam

all angels post s6 are deeply boring, especially au!Michael

I hate what they did with Crowley in mid/late seaons, they really turned him into a caricature of his former self, and he should never have become friends with the Winchesters - he was such a great villain!

POST CAGE LUCIFER SHOULD HAVE BEEN OBSESSED WITH SAM AND ITS SO DISGUSTING HOW THEY RIDICULED HIM IN S11 CASIFER IS THE WORST AND THEN THEY TRIED TO GIVE HIM A REDEMPTION IN S12/13 🤢 S5 LUCIFER WAS THE BEST VILLAIN OF THE SHOW HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO HIM

I can't stand Dean in seasons 7-10 and want to puch him in his face basically every time he's on screen

I like Jody but I hate how they tried to make her into everyone's mother figure, including the Winchesters 🥴 she deserved better

I hate Ketch with every fiber of my being, Toni obviously as well

I hate Cole or whatever his name is, the entire storyline was so stupid and out of place. Sam and Dean were literally branded as serial killers a few years before but somehow he missed that?? Also he called Sam Sammy without being obsessed with him 🔪

au!Bobby was boring

demon!Dean was boring

post s6 Cas whenever he interacts with Dean because I loathe how they took away his spine and dignity and made him into Dean's bitch

no wait the worst thing is when he lets Lucifer out of the cage and then refuses to take responsibility for it

Benny but that's because I'm sam-coded lol. Like I don't have anything against him as a person, but he's the living symbol of Dean's infuriating hipocrisy so I can't stand the sight of him

Never really cared for the ghostfacers

Or Kaia

Or the randos from Lebanon

I don't think I liked Cain but honestly I barely remember him every day I come closer to wiping the horrible memory of season 9 and 10 out of my mind <3

#ask #spn critical #lol excited to see if this will make me lose followers

28 notes · View notes

norahastuff · 2 years

Text

Remember when they brought the ghost of Kevin back in s15 and made him tell Sam and Dean he loved them? Like what the fuck, Bucklemming? He hated them – especially Dean. It was practically his defining character trait, and Bucklemming know this; they’re the ones who made him reiterate that in the episode he originally died in.

Like it’s so fucking ridiculous it practically circles right around to being hilarious. Kevin, cursed to hell by Chuck and never allowed to gain entry to heaven, standing there saying: “I love you guys,” while Sam and Dean look on stoically and don’t even say it back (somewhat of a theme of s15 apparently – oh shit, were Kevin’s final moments foreshadowing for Cas’ eventual fate? Sure, I’m going with that now. Why the fuck not – it’s not like his appearance served any other purpose).

Anyway, it was all so ridiculous and completely out of character that it genuinely just makes me laugh when I think about it. It was also in the episode where Rowena and Ketch have the most cringe-inducing flirtation scenes, and we find out Rowena used to date Jack the Ripper who was at that same moment inexplicably holed up in a brightly-lit suburban kitchen, hosting neighbourhood watch meetings with the other hell-ghosts... Jesus, what even was 15x02?

Anyway, it’s cool, Kev. Don’t worry, I know you were just being sarcastic and Sam and Dean just didn’t get the fucking joke.

#oh 15x02 #how was an episode that was so terrible in every conceivable way #somehow have that brilliantly written ''you asked what about all this is real? We are''#conversation between dean and cas about free will vs the futility of resistance #like did they just spend all their time on that convo #(and lbr the shitty rowena/ketch flirting)#(you just know they loved writing that shit)#and then realise oh crap #we got 35 more minutes to fill #in all seriousness #it does seem like there was a plan at one point #to address all the problems with the afterlife #between the repeated focus on very big issues with heaven/hell/the empty #but then something happened and they just dropped it all #similarly with Cas' grace #they spent the first half of the seasons #really drawing attention to how his powers were failing #and then absolutely nothing came of it #I could keep going #there's so much more #s15 you are so baffling to me in so many ways #negativity for ts #i guess #though mostly it's just me expressing bafflement #rambling into the void can be quite therapeutic #my spn thoughts

6 notes · View notes

dyed-red · 2 years

Note

12 and 22 for salty asks!!

12. Is there an unpopular arc that you like that the fandom doesn’t? Why?

I'm in the small minority who really enjoyed the s12 Mary storyline. I don't like where they went after with s13 and apocalypse world and all of it, and I think s12 definitely could have been better, but I actively enjoyed the bulk of the way s12 was played with the family emotions and mess with Mary.

I hate that she wasn't young and her age makes no sense, but the way she is distant from sam because of her guilt over what she doomed him to, the way she is harsh with dean over being more than just a mother, her discomfort over the way she's been idolized, the way she leaves them and the way she sides with their enemies because she's so damn isolated and so so susceptible to manipulation.

Mary is a goddamn bitch and I love it and love her for it.

that being said, i'd pay any amount of $$ to see them use their narrative threads better in terms of her and Toni Bevell, who the show goes out of their way to establish as a mother for no reason (it feels obvious to me that there was an intended foil there for mary that was just completely dropped as a narrative thread, though i have no idea why).

and i'd pay double that "any amount of $$" for the subsequent s13 storyline with mary to have gone somewhere interesting with lucifer considering she's a potential vessel, or for them to have done something more interesting with jack's parentage (can you imagine if mary was jack's mom???), but even so, i still liked it and i still think it was a good idea to bring her back and open up the board that way. 22. Popular character you hate?

less soapboxing for this question haha, because i'm not sure? most characters i dislike tend to also be disliked by others, at least in supernatural? mostly i just don't feel a strong investment in the majority of the characters.

i don't enjoy late seasons cas all that much but that's down to bad writing and the way his story has gone, not really a dislike of the character. and i mean, i can't stand ketch, but can anyone? (please don't tell me if he's popular, i don't want to know).

the one character i do actively hate is post-s5 lucifer, especially casifer and mark pellegrino's hallucifer. the only time i find lucifer interesting in the slightest in the late seasons is the cave scene in s13 with sam when lucifer is being a calmer and more sinister type of cruel. otherwise he just seems pathetic??? attention-needy and annoying and massively de-powered for no apparent reason and somehow, despite being the literal devil, bland.

tbh i blame bucklemming for like 80% of this but dabb is absolutely not free of blame either, and why gamble allowed hallucifer to be written in that farcical and annoying way, i'll never understand.

#i went on a long rant one time about the gamble era and about hallucifer #i think it's what started my tag for #metric tons of salt #salt #wank for ts #fandom wank #negativity for ts #canon crit

7 notes · View notes

antigonewinchester · 1 year

Text

12x08 Season 12 is really trying to play to the contemporary political climate at the time, huh. A Christian President agrees to be possessed by the Devil to bring America to a better place, the month after Trump got elected through the strong support of Evangelical Christians. Not subtle.

This ep also continues the bad British Men of Letters vs. good American Men of Letters plot, especially in how much Ketch is a sinister flamboyant James Bond parody. He’s fun in a… queer-coded evil bisexual Disney villain sort of way. Kind of surprised to see this character type in 2016, but I suppose it hasn’t gone away, just become less common. It actually feels indicative of what seems to be going on in the writing of the later seasons, which has (sometimes) less explicit homophobic, sexist, racist plots but all of these ideas still shows up in subtler forms.

12x09 I’d seen how Ketch was positioned as a foil for Dean this season, but I hadn’t realized the show does the same with Mick and Sam.

Also had heard about Dean’s line about imprisonment vs Hell (“MARY: Why would you-- / DEAN: We were already dead. Being locked in that cell with nothing... I've been to Hell. This was worse. / SAM: At least this way, one of us gets to keep fighting.”) and I know I’m biased, but the writers continually downplaying Dean’s time in Hell is... Particularly because I do think Dabb intended this ep to echo back to Dean’s Hell experience—Dean being the one to “break” first (not Sam) to make the deal w/ Billie, Cas saving Mary but also Dean and Sam by killing Billie > paralleling Dean being in Hell, his breaking, and Cas then rescuing him after. And then in contrast to Sam holding out under torture at the beginning of the season w/ Toni. Leaves a weird & cynical taste in my mouth, I’ll just say that. (Although I will add the fandom takes this thread and runs w/ it to make it about 100x worse than it is in the show.)

12x10 The show has done a lot of “how does one reckon w/ the things one has done in the past and how one has changed” and not always succeeded at it, but this ep and Cas reckoning w/ his past mistakes actually worked for me. Somewhat. The writing is still doing the “I had good intentions so don’t be mad at me!!” pattern, which I will have more thoughts on later. What didn’t work for me, and what I think consistently prevents the show’s writing from being more nuanced around this theme, is how it presents a duality between revenge & resentment vs. forgiveness & letting go. Take Cas’s last line about how if Lily Sunder couldn’t forgive him, she could come find him (implied that she could kill him). It sets up only two choices: hurt people out of resentment or forgive them to let go of that resentment. But that’s a false binary; one doesn’t have to forgive someone to not try to get revenge. While chasing after revenge because of one’s resentment isn’t a good thing, resentment on its own isn’t necessarily bad; it’s just a feeling.

I’m also curious when the writers started intentionally writing Cas as in love with Dean, given 15x18. Some of the framing in the episode (angels falling in love w/ humans, certain shots of Cas’s reactions, Dean as Cas’s “heart”) could be read as subtext about Cas’s romantic feelings for Dean. It’s one of the first times when I’ve thought, huh, ok yeah, I could see an interpretation where the writers were putting the romantic angle in deliberately. Definitely only on Cas’s side, though.

#dean & hell #ketch #season 12 #spn rewatch #queue

5 notes · View notes

janiedean · 1 year

Note

How are you Lavi? I was wondering, have you have shared your opinion about the end of Supernatural? I would especially love to hear your thoughts about Destiel and that love confession.

hey! I'm... extremely tired because a lot of stuff is going on that I will partially share on main about soon but has been sapping my energies a lot (i'm OOOLD) but it could be worse, thank you <3

also, wrt spn: I think I did say it in scattered posts but if you want the condensed version:

I had quit spn like early s12 at the hitler episode then I finished it after the ending because I figured I owed it to them after watching the finale live as it aired so... it was something but going in order

I actually greatly enjoyed s12-15 up to the end and I was pleasurably surprised - like okay it was the usual crazy shit half of the time and it def had gone on too long but 12-15 were eons better than the slug that was 9-11 and I had a lot of genuine fun when watching them and like they actually look/are extremely coherent for spn standards so I mostly have positive stuff on the topic like the apocalypse universe was cool, the ketch redemption arc was cool, tombstone and the tarantino episode were a masterpiece (and the 80s rock episode too sdlgkjd same as the scooby doo crossover) and I loved chuck as the villain and how meta that was

concerning deancas and the love confession: I mean as the resident idiot who had written her first deancas fic after 4x03 aired I always thought that they didn't know what they had been doing until like s5 when they realized what they were doing (sorry no one convinces that 5x03 wasn't written by someone who didn't have the deancas agenda in mind in spades) but like I generally thought that if it went somewhere it was gonna end with sam retiring and being a man of letters or smth like that and deancas going off to fight monsters in a way where you could frame it as THEY ARE BEST FRIENDS™ in places where them being gay would be frowned upon

I also thought that if anything happened whether like... either canonization or adjacent-canonization it was gonna be the last five minutes of the series finale because otherwise some parts of fandom wouldn't have let anyone involved with that show live which is why I was pleasurably shocked the confession was in ep 18 and not 20

now: I think the network authorized it and then chickened out when covid hit because the way the entire thing is structured... like sorry but this story starts with cas rescuing dean from hell, in 18 cas ends up in the empty from which he can obviously be rescued, in 19 every single plotline gets wrapped except that one in an episode that can work as a finale-finale if you leave it at that and I'm supposed to think that the og plan for ep 20 didn't include a reverse thing where dean got him out and they made out? sorry at this point bite me I'mma put my money on that esp given that...

... episode 20 is the most useless finale i've ever seen in the sense that literally nothing happens in it, the show itself had fillers where more shit happened like honestly I've never seen 40 minutes of a show that were more... a waste of time and resources and effort as that one, it looked like they told the writers they needed to have dean and sam be bros™ one of them had to die and they met in heaven again and they did that but just that X°D like sorry but the vampire porn diaries had the exact same finale template - one brother dies the other lives a happy normal life and they meet again in heaven -, s8 of tvd was vastly worsely written than spn s15 like i'm not even arguing that, but if you look at tvd finale actually shit happens in it and when you watch it it actually looks decent/wraps things up/makes you feel stuff, the spn finale is just stupid but I can't even be angry at it because imvho it's obvious they did it on purpose X°D but like tldr if the og plans hadn't been scrapped whatever they were they would have had an ep 20 where shit actually happened and that wasn't the drag it was, and like if it had come at the end of a badly written season (like tvd) I'd have just shrugged and whatever but... it came after an actually well-written season that was actually coherent with the previous four ones so I can't believe that was the real endgame content really XD

anyway: the confession was imvho absolutely ic and coherent with the entire thing starting from s4 because like sorry cas being in love with dean since then is just blatantly making sense, I never thought once it was baiting or teasing because only ppl who never watched the show would think the delivery was bad or that either misha or jensen were cringing while saying their lines, cas saying exactly the stuff he said made absolute sense in context, dean's reaction (as much as I'm sure they cut stuff) was absolutely sensed as well and no one tells me he didn't reciprocate bc the entire thing was built so that he'd admit it to himself at the very end and I mean anon my friend my comrade when I watched that episode I cried for twenty minutes straight after I finished it so X°D

like okay yeah part of it was the SEE WE WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG FUCK THE DENIERS but most of it was that I honestly was moved and I found that entire speech extremely heartfelt, meaningful and a whole lot of things I'm not sharing on main because I don't want people deciding stuff based on it but like I have zero negative things to say about that confession, I'm glad it happened and I don't regret catching up also because it happened as it really felt like the natural reaching point of cas's whole arc, I'm just sad that whatever the fuck went on with the cw they didn't let dean have a decent ending bc honestly what the fuck was that thing and they deserved to be happy without presuming they met offscreen in heaven or whatever the fuck but honestly all my issues with spn's ending are with the cw obviously getting cold feet concerning episode 20

tldr: the ending-ending sucked but up until 15x19 I thoroughly enjoyed most of what I saw nonsensical or not because at that point spn was the kinda thing you watched bc you liked it with all the faults it has, I 100% believe that the last episode sucked on purpose because I've never seen a finale done with so little effort after four seasons full of effort ever like not even penny dreadful whose finale imvho sucked on purpose sucked this much but like getting there was worth it and deancas being canon in itself was smth I never thought we'd get this explicitly and I'm very very very happy it happened, peace

#anonymous #ask post #supernatural for ts #otp: don't ever change #otp: i'd rather have you #otp: i love you #i mean... i don't even know how to say it #but i've been shipping dc since 2009 #seeing it become A Thing was... something #like really fucking SOMETHING #and again that confession was written in a way that resonated with me a lot #so personally i have nothing to say about it except if i ever meet berens #i'mma cry in front of him probably #i mean #if i ever have spn convention funds again and get to talk to misha it's gonna be extremely embarrassing but #he prob deserves to know he made me bawl so #destiel for ts #/o\

5 notes · View notes

angelcasendgame · 2 years

Note

What do you like about season 12? :) I'm watching that one now.

SEASON 12 MY BELOVED!!!!! Okay SO individual banger episodes aside, my main thing would be how much I love how s12 leans into an ensemble in a way spn didn't really do before!! The brothers, Cas, Mary, Rowena, Crowley, Kelly, Mick, Ketch, Toni, even Lucifer (ugh) have an arc where they had some change throughout the season. We see everyone have their own individual emotions and motivations that ACTUALLY push the plot and each other forward, that ISN'T JUST WINCHESTER MANPAIN. And it was really fun and interesting to me!!

Like sure, Dean and Sam argue but they're not actively pitted against each other and we see a lot of sweet brotherly moments. S12 concluded with learning to let go of each other. Especially with Dean's whole life mission being about caring for Sam--with Mary back and almost losing Cas, his priorities have shifted, and this allows them to both let go and see each other as equals. I will forever think about the climax with the bmol where Dean and Sam willingly and encouragingly part ways; that would have never happened before. They grew so much in s12 to trust each other and have other people to care about so they could go in different directions. This was the beginning of Sam's leadership arc and Dean settling into domesticity and finding peace in both that we see into develop more in s14!!

I love that we got to see Mary on her own too! Bringing her back was a brilliant idea and they dismantled the pedestal as this perfect mother and show how she's a flawed human like everyone else and it was PERFECT. I love Mary and I love that we got to see the complexities of the situation she was in because her kids by now are literally older than her and they're in this life because of her and everyone she knows is dead, and how tf do you cope with that!!

And God, Cas my beloved. I think s12 was when Cas learned how much he meant to the winchesters. I know everyone is mad about how no one said I love you back to Cas and while I agree, I don't think he felt unloved. They called him family, which is so important to the winchesters, and they stayed and fought for him. Dean wasn't just willing to risk his own safety, he was also willing to risk Sam and Mary's for Cas. And same with Sam and Mary risking each other and Dean's safety for Cas. Cas still has issues with self esteem and we see him flail without having a purpose, he still struggles to see where he fits in but part of s12 is understanding how much he means to them and why by s14, he's says that they're a family!!

(I have my issues with how they handled the deaths of characters in s12, like a LOT of issues but I really did love what they did with the others!)

And none of this would have been possible without having more of an ensemble because we wouldn't see how they all act individual of each other and their actions wouldn't have had that big of an effect on the story. Even earlier characters like Bobby, while having a significant role in the show, rarely had motivations and actions that were conflicting or even that different from what the brothers wanted. But in s12, everyone has thier own personal agenda and sometimes they align and sometimes they don't, but it never felt like they were manufacturing conflict for the sake of conflict--it very much felt in character for each person and what they wanted!

So yeah, I absolutely LOVE s12 and could sing praises about it forever

#(I also need you to know my original answer was 3.2k--and I still wasn't done--and I had to do some frantic editing to get it down to this k #SORRY THIS IS SO LATE #but here ya go!!!!#i would love to hear your thoughts on s12 too <33 #does any of this make sense? I left a lot out trying to condense it and i hope it makes sense kfjshgksdfj #thank you sm for the ask i am so happy to talk about s12 <33 #mailbox #my best friend s12

5 notes · View notes

hawkland · 2 years

Note

Do you hate Sam? I stumbled on your Jack art and it's really lovely, so I came here to look at all of it! And was a little surprised to see just about everyone but Sam? KETCH, even? (I mean, fandom is fandom and we do what we love! He's in your fics, but no where in your art or tumblr. No judgement, though, just curious!)

Hello! I have no hate for Sam—in fact I have one piece of Sam posted currently (though admittedly it was Lucifer!Sam from The End), and will actually be posting two Sam & Dean pieces tomorrow for the SPN Gencest Bang, which I was eager to sign up for to do some gen art focused on Dean & Sam's relationship.

Many of the portrait pieces I've done, including of seemingly odd characters like Ketch, are because I wanted to have original art to get signed at the conventions I've attended instead of just photos. So I even scrambled to do my Gadreel/Tamoh piece in 2 days after Creation announced Jared wouldn't be at the NJCon this year but Tamoh would be. Most of the art I’ve been working on the months since then has been either for specific bangs or commissions, and as those were mostly Destiel focused, that’s what I concentrated on! I’m actually hoping to widen what I do in SPN art in future months as I’m signed up for some more multi character/ship bangs like the SPN Media Bang and SPN Canon Bang, so you just never know!

As far as writing/talking/reblogging Sam content: I do really enjoy reading & writing Sam and especially focusing on Sam & Cas’s chaotic friendship (something that will play into a long piece I’m working on right now), and I think I do reblog TFW/related content and art when it crosses my dash and I find it interesting, cool or funny? Admittedly I do mostly follow Cas- and Destiel-centric blogs, and while I try to maintain a ship-and-let-ship attitude in my interactions in the fandom, I have blocked my share of SPN accounts that had a lot of unpleasant anti-Mish or anti-Destiel content. So maybe that cuts me off from seeing some good Sam stuff but that hate does seem to come from some of the more extreme elements of that part of fandom, and I just choose not to engage with it for my own peace of mind. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

#thanks for the ask!#spn thinky thoughts #of a sort I suppose

5 notes · View notes

billiewena · 2 years

Note

have 2 go w the obvious and ask about supernatural

FAIR (though I'm doing other fandoms for this ask game on my main @homosexualslug too!)

favorite male character: 💕💕💕 CASTIEL 💕💕💕 followed by sam, rufus, and death 1.0

favorite female character: ROWENA, followed by ruby, anna, eileen, jo, and miriam from 13x01

(also bonus fave nonbinary character is, of course, 💀🖤billie 🖤💀)

least favorite character: cole, kfc demon, NICK, and ketch (eileen's death is literally one of the cruellest ones in the show I hate him I hate him I hate him)

prettiest character: castiel, bela, eileen, jessica, kali, claire. and cain. yeah.

funniest character: castiel (again), rufus, eileen, rowena and crowley. also sam when he's bitchy which should be always.

favorite season: FOUR. not a contest. tho I usually end up rewatching five too.

favorite episode: I am a basic Bedlund bitch so it is a tie between "on the head of a pin", "the man who would be king" and "my bloody valentine." I also love "mystery spot" and any yockey episode (especially Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets and Funeralia)

favorite romantic ship: saileen. deancassie. every sappic rarepair (especially anna/mary and billie/rowena.) and of course the one that's the reason why I'm here at all, the one that's had its ups and downs and fights but always kept going, the one went canon in 2020 after a decade and reactivated my spn phase for good... deanpala ♥️

favorite family ship: tfw 3.0 (which in my head includes rowena, eileen, etc). jody & claire & alex. bobby & sam & dean. mary and all the boys (including cas and jack.) linda & kevin. ellen & jo.

favorite friend ship: cas & kelly, cas & rowena, cas & charlie, etc etc. I just like it when cas has friends. dean & eileen. jody & the winchesters. and the many I enjoy as both ships and best friends: dean & benny, sam & cas, bobby & rufus, jody & donna, sam & rowena, etc.

worst ship: deanketch because it involves ketch. sam*fer because why would you do that to sam. and all the weird ones, you know the ones.

Leave a TV show or movie in my ask box and I'll tell you...

#asks #ask game #long post

5 notes · View notes

inthiswhisper · 2 years

Text

repear: [to sam] death keeps notebooks with all the ways a person might die, depending on their choices. … but in rowena macleod's notebook, her death is always the same — she's killed, sam winchester, by you.

-

sam: why are you killing reapers?

rowena: they’re just a means to an end. ... death has something i want. my son. after you told me he was gone, how he died, i had an unexpected reaction. we had our differences, but it’s my fault he went down the path he did. i left him. ... fergus — a man abandoned and loveless, tricked by a demon, died in a gutter. he deserved better from the world. from me.

-

rowena: everything i did before — for wealth, for magic, for myself — meant nothing. and it took everything from me, everyone i loved. ... i’m a flawed, petty, evil creature, ... i don’t know if i can be redeemed. but i have to try. and i do wish there was another way.

sam: what are you saying?

rowena: well, you said it yourself. there’s only one way to stop me — you. but if you’re dead, well... then i can’t be stopped, can i? death will have to grant me an audience.

-

sam: i know what you went through and i know how much you lost, and i realize how much you want your family back. but don’t do this. this is not you. not anymore.

rowena: what happened to me, those were my choices. but fergus never… it wasn’t fair.

-

death: you were never going to kill [sam]. there was a time you would've, but not now. i can see that.

rowena: [crying] i don’t know what i’m doing.

death: sometimes life is unfair, and sometimes we lose things. and sometimes we make mistakes. and some of these things can never be fixed, no matter how powerful you become. some things just are, and everyone has to live with that.

rowena: and now you’ll take me?

death: no. [referring to sam] you already know how your story ends.

—

i would have liked a bit more build-up in rowena mourning crowley, but i appreciate this season wrapping up previous storylines, especially the ones that never received any proper closure — rowena / crowley, dean / charlie, cas over what naomi did to him. sam over his lucifer trauma and learning to live with a past that can’t be changed, like he told rowena. also, the brothers’ grief over mary. it’s been in bursts, but i feel it escalating the closer they get to seeing her.

then, there’s redemption at the center of this too — rowena wanting to be better because of her loss, ketch because his choices backfired and left him guilt-ridden. even sam and dean after what father lucca told them, where they’re trying to hold onto faith by doing their best in spite of how easy it is to do the bare minimum, or get swept up in thoughts of self-gain and revenge.

and then there’s how much cas and rowena have been paralleling each other. both making questionable choices and going to extremes, even risking lives — their own or another’s — for the sake of their family. especially their child. just like dean warned cas that he can’t make impulsive, fatal decisions, sam warns rowena that hurting him isn’t who she is anymore. cas and rowena both say it’s ‘something’ they ‘have to try.’ but, again, is it redemption if she’s taking a life to save a life, like cas hurting donatello for the spell to save jack and mary. like ketch trying to act morally superior to asmodeus before being put in his place, sparking his redemption.

moreover — i was going to sit on this, but sam being rowena’s undoing does (and will) parallel interestingly to dean being cas’ undoing. one putting their faith in the other’s goodness, and awakening the other to their own actions, and begging the other to remember who they are.

i mean, it’s not a coincidence they brought back naomi this episode. in ‘goodbye stranger,’ dean begged cas to wake up, open his eyes, that he ‘needs’ cas — it’s all echoed in sam’s speech to gabriel before but especially in sam’s speech to rowena, as she’s literally standing over him with a blade. so… the fate and inevitable demise of both of these creatures — once considered all-powerful, unfeeling, and immortal — are now tied to a winchester brother they couldn’t help becoming emotionally attached to. shattered at the altar of winchester and all that.

#samwena reminding me of destiel #that's where i am now #destiel #supernatural #spn liveblog #13x19

2 notes · View notes

shallowseeker · 7 months

Note

hey was it you who pointed out that dean makes barbed comments at cas's virility being indicative of his latent sexual hangups about him

I don't think so? Unless it was in passing, anyway. I think you're on to something, but I'm too not fresh on paying attention to this specific issue. Current impressions:

// ANGELS Emasculation seems to be something that gets hurled at everyone a lot but definitely angels in particular. And it's more than gender, I think. As protector archetypes, they're expected to step up and get stronger in order to protect the fam.

They're expected to be brutal with enemies but gentle shields when it comes to the inner sanctum/fam/humans. Their violence is attractive, but only when it's turned outward on others. (If it gets turned inward, you get something like a "John Winchester" vibe, you know?)

I think there are a lot of protectorship duties wrapped up with the very concept of "angels."

I'm thinking about "junkless" aimed at Uriel in season 4 and at Cas at the end of season 5. I'm thinking about how Lucifer called Michael a "cuck" in season 15. There's also the whole matter of grace, which is not on infinite tap. This is a very classic nod to the fact that virility can be "used up" and lead to "performance issues." (See Gabe n' Rowena, season 13).

Cas instinctually understands the dynamic on some level, which is why he says, "Figuratively," with such annoyance during the diner scene in season 6's Mommy Dearest -> DEAN: Mom's makin' you limp? CAS: Figuratively, yes. //

POWER EQUALIZATION The reality is that very often, angels are too strong to go toe to toe with. Even Arthur Ketch learned and acknowledged that verbally, post-AU his Earth adventure. "Nagging" phrases and innuendo function as an easy-bake way to try and equalize the elephant in the room; that is, a big power difference. //

DEAN USES INNUENDO WHEN HE'S STRESSED One of Dean's primary modes of survival is to use innuendo when he's feeling powerless and scared, to desperately posture. (This is also something most syrupy-speaking, demonic characters do, especially when they're coming at a situation from a "weaker position.")

So, it's not just about Cas. //

BUT THE CAS JABS ARE INTERESTING Certainly, when Cas is in danger, Dean gets unhinged and demands Cas be faster, stronger, and more virile, and if you ask me, I think it's subtly different than Dean's usual shtick of throwing innuendo as part of a pissing match/power struggle/or teasing.

With Cas, it often seems to be a panic response along the lines of, "Cas, do something!" Dean lashes out at many friends when he’s scared, but with Cas, it’s almost always a demand for him to be braver or stronger.

I think this moment in 5x18 captures the whiplash of Dean's simultaneous mode of wanting Cas to be stronger in order to take on danger, and his displeasure with Cas taking on that very danger. He'd prefer if Cas were invincible, and he reaches desperately towards that fantasy, especially in the early days of their friendship.

CASTIEL: Because there are at least five angels in there. DEAN: So? You’re fast. CASTIEL: They’re faster. CASTIEL takes off his tie and wraps it around his palm. CASTIEL: I’ll clear them out. You two grab the boy. This is our only chance. DEAN: Whoa, wait. You’re gonna take on five angels? CASTIEL: Yes.

#asks #spn 5x18 #spn point of no return

6 notes · View notes

spainkitty · 1 month

Text

Okay season 12. IS. SO. GOOD!! Aaron Bass cameo! BIG ALPHA VAMP CAMEO?? WELCOME BACK, MY FAVORITE DADDY MONSTER!!! (aww he died bye alpha daddy) An overwhelming amount of Dean's mommy issues!? twice as much Cas compared to s10/11? the utterly grey morality of the Brits, especially Ketch? Sam being the best Sam and least inconsistently written in years, so much so that I LIKE him? I'm loving this. 12x14 "The Raid" is soooo good (if one ignores the rampant amount of 'red shirt' deaths poor sad Mick)

#kitty babbles #spn #spn s12 #having so much fun #it doesnt feel like it HATES me this season #it stupid and fun and funny and good! and SAAAAD #allllll the emotions

0 notes

mlobsters · 2 months

Text

supernatural s14e19 jack in the box (w. eugenie ross-leming, brad buckner)

foreboding episode name. also rolling my eyes again that they decided to do hallucifer 2.0 with jack

sigh i am not really up for mary's wake today. next day. i tried to watch jason kelce's retirement press conference, which was so emotionally taxing, i decided watching this episode would be better. watching someone trying to not cry when their entire body is fighting it is so hard. so hard. i made it a minute before my chest hurt so much i had to stop. anyway.

well i did yell at sam for burning mary's picture, but this the same one but bigger so i guess it was fine. weird choice, but fine.

SAM Hey. Uh, most everybody's headed out, but Bobby's gonna stick around. I thought maybe we could open that scotch Ketch left and hang out, talk about Mom. DEAN "Talk about Mom"? SAM Yeah. DEAN Isn't that what we've been doing?

dean handling it as well as expected

quick sob in the woods to take the edge off so he can go back to being emotionally unavailable for sam. i get it. my personal m.o. is to go silently sob somewhere and then come back and be able to have a cool, calm and collected rational conversation about things. wouldn't recommend that either

SAM But they're real, right? We know that Mom's not sitting on a cloud playing a harp. She's in a good place. Or she's in a great place. She's with Dad. DEAN Hmm. You know what else? There wasn't enough left of her to even try to bring her back.

i have been thinking about that a lot lately. knowing about heaven etc, if it weren't so busted and broken down, what's the big deal if someone dies. especially if they're a "special" case soulmate type so they get another actual human to be blissful with. like the only real-real is on earth, they say, but the alternative sounds awfully compelling

dumah having jack turn a heretic into a pillar of salt, hokay

DUMAH Words can't begin to express how Sam and Dean will feel. Now here is the real test. We need more angels. You're not God. You can't just make them out of thin air. But if a human were predisposed to it, maybe you could take their soul and forge them into one of us.

LOL what. they got duped by lucifer when he said he could make more angels, but i guess they've been working the problem

handy we have this special box ready for eternal torture of archangels and maybe juiced up nephilims? who knows

DEAN No. Well, I mean, I want Zeppelin to get back together. But what I need -- What we need is to stop Jack. Big difference. But here's the deal. We both got to sign off on it. This might be our only shot, and if he even catches a whiff that this is a scam, he's off into the wind. SAM Exactly. And how do you think he's not gonna know something's up? DEAN Because you're gonna be so damn sincere. SAM Me? DEAN Mm-hmm. SAM Why me? DEAN Because you've always been in his corner, all right? You're his go-to guy. Sam, if you reach out, he'll come. If I do it, after what happened to Mom, I could lose it. I will lose it.

how about we cool off, take a minute or week or four, and think about this first. but dean wants to do it literally right now. great.

did not see castiel ganking dumah coming, all righty.

SAM So what do we do now? Just go on with Jack locked up in there forever?

i mean yeah it's reversible but this is the most accelerated plotline ever. like an instant pot to turn jack into lucifer

SAM You know, I never thought it would end like this with Jack. DEAN Sammy, we knew from the beginning it was a long shot with him. SAM Yeah. Yeah, but long shots are kind of our thing.

one day you've got three dads who love you and then you fuck up and they're locking you in a box

DEAN He's locked up, safe. He's in the Ma'lak box. CASTIEL No!

please, we need some pushback on dean about this.

DEAN He agreed to it. Because deep down, I think he knows it's best. CASTIEL No. You're doing what Dumah -- You are manipulating him.

tell him, cas. i hate when they have dean be like this

all right. surprise, surprise. it didn't go well.

i haven't finished an episode this quickly in ages.

#supernatural #spnwatch #spn 14x19 #eugene ross-leming #brad buckner

0 notes