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beanghostprincess · 2 months

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Luffy not knowing about Zoro promising Sanji to kill him if he ever ends up losing himself makes me go feral because that's something they can only know about. Because Zoro's respect for life and death goes beyond anything, and Sanji knows he understands. Sanji knows that if somebody has to kill him, it's him.

And I don't even think it's because Sanji assumes Zoro's opinion of him is hatred and it would hurt less for him to do this, but because Sanji knows only Zoro would be able to treat the promise as it is. Because he would put Sanji's wishes before any feelings he has for him. It's not that Zoro doesn't care, but I think he respects people's ideals and decisions to the extent of being able to kill Sanji if he so desires.

That being said, he'd do it if there's no other way to fix it. If it's either dying or living as an emotionless machine, which is the same as dying for Sanji, Zoro would fulfill his promise. And there is just... Something about Luffy not knowing. Their captain. The man they're devoted to the most as if he were their God. Luffy doesn't know. It's something only the captain's wings are aware of and the thought of these two keeping this from Luffy until the end is just insane. Not even trying to make it romantic here, but the bond and respect these two have for each other is crazy.

Maybe it's the poetry of it all, too. Somebody like Zoro, who has looked at Death in her face multiple times and said "no", ending Sanji's life, who wants to give in to death to not experience a fate worse than death for him.

#bean posting zosan this is so rare and weird don't get used to it sweeties #kind of tired of people jumping to extremes with these two btw like-#they don't hate each others but they're also not best friends-- respect is something they value even more than those things #they're not good for my mental health they make me go insane #this wasn't meant to be in a shippy way but idk if you wanna see it as romantic you do you bc it could def be #it depends on my mood #i consider myself a zosan shippers on random days #you could also say sanji thinks zoro doesn't give a fuck about him and that's why he tells him bc we know this guy's self-worth is awful #but i also like to think it's because zoro's views on life and death are exactly what sanji needs #luffy would try to look for a way to fix this and they others wouldn't be able to do it tbh #i mean if it ever got too serious i think luffy could do it but do you really think sanji's gonna make him go through that #if zoro has to die he wants to die by luffy's hand but if sanji has to die he wants to die without involving their captain #idk if that makes sense okay i haven't slept at all tbf #one piece #black leg sanji #roronoa zoro #zosan

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petiolata · 2 months

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Decided I'll just block people I see tag their art with "not ship art" "don't tag as ship" and the like.

It's not that I care whether it's ship art, or whether the artist intends it platonically or romantically.

It's that it shows a deep, fundamental misunderstanding of how art works. Art is not meant to be interpreted to the exact dictation of the artist. Art is meant to evoke thoughts and feelings *beyond* what the artist intends.

The audience, viewing, completes the experience by supplying interpretations based on their own unique experiences.

If someone doesn't get that, then they're too mentally shallow for me to waste time on their art. Why would I? There's nothing for me in it--I'm not permitted to have my own thoughts or feelings about the art after all.

Viewing art as complete, immutable product that the audience exists only to "consume" without thinking is the mentality that enables the hideous conversion of "artist" to "content creator".

Besides, the artist has admitted they can't clearly communicate ideas or scenes, since they feel the need to clarify something that should be obvious 99.9% of the time.

#fandom #artist problems #fandom discourse #discourse #death of the author #reader-response theory #op #personal #it always surprises me how ignorant many creatives are about their own supposedly beloved method of creation #“I love to make art! now I'm going to learn absolutely nothing about it 😃”#“I'm never going to bother thinking about the audience's role or art's purpose and what it gives humanity! 😃”#it's just a very complacent and shallow attitude #altho tbh it's a common failing generally. so many ppl never bother to think critically or analytically or have any curiosity about anythin #i know i probably shouldn't bother voicing these opinions but pseudo-intellectual rants are just part of my content-creator “brand” baby #along with my struggles with various household objects #if you can't be a little insane and pretentious on your own tumblog then where can you?#btw the art that prompted this wasn't even about a “problematic” ship which is what made seeing it so bizarre and jarring? like it wasn't #even an attempt at advertising the artists' values #just “You [the audience] are clearly all idiots so let me clarify this scene for you and spell everything out”#but even aside from that particular piece I've seen plenty of posts with similar tags. stop treating your audience like they're dipshits #also trying to forcibly control how your audience interprets your work is control freak BS

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welcometogrouchland · 2 years

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Thinking abt Gus' dad being in the oracle track at hexside and abt Gus wanting to see the oracle artifact instead of an illusion one in agony of a witch and about how the magic amplifier allows you to see memories that haunt ppl and about all the eye imagery in labyrinth runners and the oracle covens symbol being an eye and about how Gus is one of the only hexsiders besides Luz to use glyphs (which is wild magic) more than once and about how oracle magic can summon ghosts and how there's a couple figures (namely Caleb and the Titan) haunting the narrative in toh rn.

Anyway what I'm getting at here is Gus s3 necromancer arc when???

#ramblings of a lunatic #LET HIM BE A WILD WITCH! HE DESERVES IT!!#(tbh i think it'd be neat if post canon all the hexsquad (minus luz and hunter cuz they already are) became wild witches)#(amity does healing and maybe oracle magic and willow does construction and maybe healing. btw <3)#(that's just a baseless hc but still)#HE SAW THE PORTRAITS IN HOLLOW MIND. HE KNOWS WHO THIS DUDE IS. WE GOTTA SEE CALEB SOMEHOW. LET IT BE GUS #the owl house #gus porter #owl house theory #wasn't going to maintag and tbh i dont think it'll even show up in tags but i think this is coherent enough to deserve it

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michaeljoncarter · 1 year

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hi okay i just followed u and i actually would love to hear if u have recs or thoughts on the other spectrum of lantern rings bc i saw ur one post abt the red lanterns and. tbh i do not know much abt them. or any of the colors really? but u also seem like u’ve read a lot of them and i do actually want to get back into reading comics so i figured i’d ask!

i am like… weirdly invested in the emotional spectrum & all the different lantern corps as a concept and have actually been wanting to make a sort of "intro" post to all of it for a while now, so thank you for finally giving me an excuse!

not really gonna get into any of my thoughts about any of it just because if i let myself start rambling, this will spiral into a 200k word long monstrosity and never actually get answered so! recs!

the good news is 99% of this was introduced in one big saga, so it's actually pretty straightforward & easy to get into. apart from the greens, the only two that were sortakinda introduced before the whole war of light era were the star sapphires & yellow lanterns, but they were both originally pretty different to how they are now

honestly, the older version of the yellow ring doesn't really matter all that much when it comes to the current version. i'm still gonna put a couple things where it shows up, but you could definitely pick up later comics without reading them and not be lost if you'd like to skip

on the other hand, i would suggest reading at least a little about the original star sapphire before jumping into the war of light era because it builds on & references back to the older comics quite a bit

Sinestro/Yellow rings:

Green Lantern (1960) #7, #9

Green Lantern (1990) #83 - 85 for the introduction of fatality

Green Lantern (1990) #131 - 136

Star Sapphire & the Zamarons:

Green Lantern (1960) #16, #26, #41, #73 - 74

Superman #261

Green Lantern (1960) #129

Green Lantern (1960) #178 - 190 is where the predator (which will come back later) is introduced, but the fact that the predator existed pre-blackest night isn't something you need to know to understand its later iteration. it's really only ever mentioned a couple times in passing, and to be honest, this whole arc is just... really not my favorite. you can absolutely skip if you find you're not having a good time with it

Green Lantern (1960) #191 - 192

Green Lantern (1990) #83 - 85, again, for fatality

Emerald Twilight (Green Lantern (1990) #48 - 50) is also really important to read if you want to be able to understand like... anything that happens later

less importantly, i'd also suggest checking out the original ion arc (Green Lantern (1990) #143 - 150). you won't be super lost or anything if you don't, but it'll provide a little context about wtf this ion thing everybody's talking about is

and LASTLY, black lanterns were a thing before Blackest Night. Blackest Night & Brightest Day and like 99% of what's here is pretty heavily based on Tales of the Green Lantern Corps #1 - 3 & its annuals. you don't have to read that before jumping into Blackest Night (i think i'd actually recommend waiting and coming back to it later), but if you're interested, it's definitely worth checking out!

and now, with all that out of the way, we can get into the johns/tomasi era & the actual point of this post lol

pretty much every single arc here is constantly jumping between about 3-4 different books, but instead of linking to a bunch of different reading lists, i'm just gonna put all the individual issues so everything's all in one place & hopefully easier to use as a reference, if anyone wants to do that... so this is going to be an obnoxiously long post! sorry about that!

ok! first and perhaps most controversially, Green Lantern: Rebirth. the dreaded parallax retcon, but it's kind of the foundation of all of this, so it's a must-read when it comes to the whole spectrum.

again, if you only read one thing from the older comics, let it be Emerald Twilight (Green Lantern (1990) #48 - 50) because Rebirth will really not make much sense without that context

next, i'd recommend jumping ahead a little and going ahead to read hal's origin (Green Lantern (2005) #29 - 35). you can wait and read it later if you want, of course, but it's just kinda shoved in the middle of a different arc later, and i really think it makes things flow a bit better if you just get to it up front instead

the first part of the green lantern & green lantern corps titles (Green Lantern (2005) #1 - 20 & Green Lantern Corps (2006) #1 - 13) don't have all that much to do with setting up the spectrum or the other corps, so if you're eager to just get straight to that, you can skip that

but if not and you want to read everything, be sure and check out Green Lantern Corps: Recharge, which is what sets up Green Lantern Corps (2006), before jumping into it!

Green Lantern (2005) #17 - 20 is the Mystery of the Star Sapphire arc that kicks everything off. from this point on, it's pretty much non-stop arcs spanning multiple books and more tie-ins than you've ever seen in your life

it's all very fun, but it is, quite frankly, annoying as hell to read. like i said, i'm gonna be listing it all out, but i'm gonna separate everything by arc and put the names of each because most of these have been collected into TPBs or omnibuses & if you can manage to track down that version, i'd HIGHLY recommend reading it that way to save yourself some frustration

Sinestro Corps War:

Green Lantern: Sinestro Corps Special #1

Green Lantern (2005) #21

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #14

Green Lantern (2005) #22

Tales of the Sinestro Corps: Parallax #1

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #15

Green Lantern (2005) #23

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #16

Tales of the Sinestro Corps: Cyborg Superman #1

Green Lantern (2005) #24

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #17

Tales of the Sinestro Corps: Superman-Prime #1

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #18

Green Lantern (2005) #25

Tales of the Sinestro Corps: Ion #1

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #19

Green Lantern (2005) #26 - 28 and Green Lantern Corps (2006) #19 - 28 are the epilogue of the Sinestro Corps War, including the Ring Quest Arc, the introduction of the alpha lanterns, and the prologue to Rage of the Red Lanterns. also, if you want to read hal's revamped origin (Green Lantern (2005) #29 - 35) here instead, this is where it was originally placed

Rage of the Red Lanterns:

Final Crisis: Rage of the Red Lanterns

Green Lantern (2005) #36 - 38

Agent Orange & Tale of the Black Lantern:

Green Lantern (2005) #39 - 42

Green Lantern (2005) #43

Sins of the Star Sapphire & Emerald Eclipse:

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #29 - 32

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #33 - 38

BLACKEST NIGHT:

ok, this is the big one. pretty much everything that was running at the time of this event did a tie-in for it, and as such, there are a lot of issues in the full reading order that aren't super necessary to read, as all that really happens is you get to see which rings went to which characters

i'm gonna be putting the less important tie-ins in italics. you can skip them & come back later if you want

Blackest Night #0 - 1

Blackest Night: Tales of the Corps #1 - 3

Green Lantern (2005) #44

Blackest Night #2

Green Lantern (2005) #45

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #39

Blackest Night: Batman #1

Blackest Night: Superman #1

Blackest Night: Titans #1

Blackest Night #3

Green Lantern (2005) #46

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #40

Blackest Night: Batman #2

Blackest Night: Superman #2

Blackest Night: Titans #2

Blackest Night #4

Green Lantern (2005) #47

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #41

Blackest Night: Batman #3

Blackest Night: Superman #3

Blackest Night: Titans #3

Blackest Night #5

Green Lantern (2005) #48

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #42

Justice League of America (2006) #39

Superman/Batman #66

Doom Patrol #4

Booster Gold (2007) #26

R.E.B.E.L.S. #10

Teen Titans (2003) #77

Adventure Comics (2009) #4

Outsiders (2009) #24

Blackest Night #6

Green Lantern (2005) #49

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #43

Blackest Night: Flash #1

Blackest Night: Wonder Woman #1

Blackest Night: JSA #1

Justice League of America (2006) #40

Superman/Batman #67

Doom Patrol #5

Booster Gold (2007) #27

R.E.B.E.L.S. #11

Teen Titans (2003) #78

Adventure Comics (2009) #5

Outsiders (2009) #25

Green Lantern (2005) #50

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #44

Blackest Night: Flash #2

Blackest Night: Wonder Woman #2

Blackest Night: JSA #2

The Atom and Hawkman #46

The Phantom Stranger #42

Starman #81

Power of Shazam #48

The Question #37

Catwoman #83

Weird Western Tales #71

Suicide Squad #67

Secret Six #17

Blackest Night #7

Green Lantern (2005) #51

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #45

Blackest Night: Flash #3

Blackest Night: Wonder Woman #3

Blackest Night: JSA #3

Green Arrow and Black Canary #30

Adventure Comics (2009) #7

Secret Six #18

Blackest Night #8

Green Lantern (2005) #52

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #46

Untold Tales of Blackest Night

Brightest Day:

there was a main Brightest Day book, but it's mostly just about the heroes resurrected in Blackest Night running around trying to figure out what to do now. you can read it if you want, of course, but it doesn't actually have much to do with the lantern corps, so we're ignoring it here

Green Lantern (2005) #53 - 62

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #47 - 48

Green Lantern: Emerald Warriors #1 - 7

Green Lantern Corps #49 - 52

War of the Green Lanterns:

Green Lantern (2005) #63 - 64

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #58

Green Lantern: Emerald Warriors #8

Green Lantern (2005) #65

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #59

Green Lantern: Emerald Warriors #9

Green Lantern (2005) #66

Green Lantern Corps (2006) #60

Green Lantern: Emerald Warriors #10

Green Lantern Vol. 4 #67

War of the Green Lanterns: Aftermath #1 - 2

Sinestro & The Secret of the Indigo Tribe:

Green Lantern (2011) #1 - 6

Green Lantern (2011) #7 - 10

Red Lanterns:

Red Lanterns #1 - 12

New Guardians & the beginning of the white lantern kyle arc:

Green Lantern: New Guardians #1 - 12

Rise of the Third Army:

Green Lantern (2011) #11 - 12, Annual #1, #0

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #0

Red Lanterns #0

Green Lantern: New Guardians #0

Green Lantern (2011) #13

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #13

Green Lantern: New Guardians #13

Red Lanterns #13

Green Lantern (2011) #14

Red Lanterns #14

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #14

Green Lantern: New Guardians #14

Green Lantern (2011) #15

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #15

Red Lanterns #15

Green Lantern: New Guardians #15, Annual #1

Green Lantern (2011) #16

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #16

Green Lantern New Guardians #16

Red Lanterns #16

Green Lantern Corps (2011) Annual #1

Wrath of the First Lantern:

Green Lantern (2011) #17

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #17

Green Lantern: New Guardians #17

Red Lanterns #17

Green Lantern (2011) #18

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #18

Green Lantern: New Guardians #18

Red Lanterns #18

Green Lantern (2011) #19

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #19

Green Lantern: New Guardians #19

Red Lanterns #19

Green Lantern Vol. 5 #20

Green Lantern Corps Vol. 3 #20

Green Lantern: New Guardians #20

Red Lanterns #20

aaand this is unfortunately where things kinda start to go downhill imo--for the main green lantern book, especially. you can, of course, read everything if you want, but tbh Red Lanterns, Sinestro, and sometimes Green Lantern Corps were the only things i actually enjoyed reading & would really recommend from this point on, so i'm gonna be skipping a bit

Red Lanterns #21 - 23 is guy's red lantern coup d'etat arc, and Green Lantern Corps (2011) #21 - 23 is kinda build up to The Fatality Thing that comes in the Uprising arc, and then we get to Lights Out, which tbh i just straight up do not like, but we're gonna put it here anyway because it's important to a lot that comes later (unfortunately)

Lights Out:

Green Lantern: New Guardians #22 - 23

Green Lantern (2011) #24

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #24

Green Lantern: New Guardians #24

Red Lanterns #24

Green Lantern (2011) Annual #2

Uprising:

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #25 - 30 is kinda prologue to this, including some actually fun weirdness with von daggle & the more covert/espionage side of the glc

Green Lantern (2011) #31

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #31

Green Lantern (2011) #32

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #32

Green Lantern (2011) #33

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #33 - 34

Red Daughter of Krypton (one of my favorite arcs to come out of this whole thing <3):

Supergirl (2011) #26 - 29

Green Lantern (2011) #28

Red Lanterns #28 - 29

Supergirl (2011) #30

Red Lanterns #30

Supergirl (2011) #31

Red Lanterns #31 - 32

Supergirl (2011) #32 - 33

Red Lanterns #33, Annual #1, #34

the beginning of the long-running "sinestro trying to regain custody of his child" arc:

Sinestro #1 - 5

Godhead:

New Gods: Godhead #1

Green Lantern (2011) #35

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #35

Green Lantern: New Guardians #35

Red Lanterns #35

Sinestro #6

Green Lantern (2011) #36

Green Lantern Corps (2011) #36

Green Lantern: New Guardians #36

Red Lanterns #36

Sinestro #7

Green Lantern (2011) #37

Green Lantern Corps (Volume 3) #37

Green Lantern: New Guardians #37

Red Lanterns #37

Sinestro #8

Green Lantern Annual (2011) #3

Green Lantern Corps (2011), Green Lantern: New Guardians, and Red Lanterns all only had 3 issues left after this arc ended, and they're all... fine? i'd recommend reading them just because, y'know, why not? and then thaaat's pretty much it

after this, we're just left with the main title, which continues to be very meh imo, and Sinestro, which is actually pretty good. i'd say just stick with that, read Sinestro #9 - 23, and then join us all in Rebirth & hoping dc gets its shit together and actually does something interesting with all this again sometime soon

#ask #tiramisusam #LONG post #being a johns hater who's also super into all this is so tragic. feel like the comic book version of a class traitor #anyway!! sorry for taking like a week to answer this! and also for how messy it is lol #i didn't really get into rebirth because well. mostly because this was already SO LONG honestly #but also tbh i just don't like most of it #Green Lanterns wasn't bad (outside of how simon's characterized)#& that's pretty much the only compliment i have fr how things have been going since it started lmao #anyway umm. got kinda carried away here but hope it helps at all!

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bugsbenefit · 1 year

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okay i'll say it again. i'm personally not a very big fan of the theory that Alice Creel and Karen Wheeler are the same person from a personal perspective. However, looking at the show, i think at this point we should consider it as more of an option because aside from the multiple weird instances about it. i think the most notable is that it's one of the most solid explanations for what Nancy saw in her vision.

Vecna specifically threatening Karen, Holly, and Mike. leaving Ted out. is funny to us from an audience perspective because it allows for the assumption that Nancy just doesn't give enough of a shit about Ted for Vecna to use his death as something shocking.

but this makes very little sense in universe and with the way it was shot:

While Nancy is never shown to be close to Ted it's also clear she doesn't hate him. they're very ambivalent to each other, we rarely even see them in the same scenes. from a character perspective, jumping from this to Nancy not caring if something happened to him is very inconsistent character writing. most people would care if someone in their lives died even if they weren't personally very close. for Nancy to really not care if he died they would require a more negatively afflicted relationship. which they don't have.

the moment is also not played like a joke. the entirety of Nancy's vision serves as foreshadowing to the end of s4 and s5. it's all taken very seriously both by the characters and the audience. Nancy leaving Ted out of her vision is subtle and something we only talk about in hindsight because it's weird Vecna left only him out. causing jokes like "even Vecna says fuck Ted Wheeler" to spring up as an explanation. but the scene isn't shot like a joke and the exclusion of him falls flat. it was just subtle enough to be there and pass by ga's prime focus since no character drew attention to it, or asked afterwards "what about your dad?" "what about my dad?" which would have made it an actual joke and given pay off to this weird list. but none of this happens. Ted is just Missing from the vision and we're moving on. it's not played like something funny to notice, Nancy is crying and everyone is serious.

so. why IS Ted missing from the vision? summing up what we know:

it does not come across like a joke at all. without drawing attention to it the GA misses it, causing the joke to not work. and even more attentive audiences who pick up on it, recognize it's not really a funny haha joke. and while we can try and turn it into something jokey and say it's because Ted is stupid and nobody likes him, that explanation makes much less sense for the characters themselves. Nancy and Ted don't have a bad enough relationship as far as we're shown to justify Nancy suddenly not caring if he died. he's still a person she sees every day, even without a parental bond she would at least have an opinion on him dying.

so if this dialogue doesn't serve the purpose of character development/ exposition or comedy, why is it there?

well like the rest of the vision, it's part of the points that pretty straightforwardly tell us what will happen next season. s5 will have a creature with a gaping mouth, monsters all over Hawkins, and the Wheeler family minus Ted in danger.

Mike being in danger here makes sense since he's already hinted at being a central character in s5. both from a "return to s1" perspective, because of the "love triangle" plot and painting plot that include him, AND the fact that him and Will had a whole scene dedicated to planning Vecna's death as a conclusion to the season. Mike and his relationship with Will and the overall story are being highlighted so him subsequently being in danger because of that is a given. (there's also the whole argument to be made of Mike getting targeted Specifically because of Will as a bargaining tool) still, why Holly and Karen would have that same target on their back is a little bit more unclear as of now.

but the Real question is why Vecna doesn't include Ted when he already lists the whole Wheeler family by name. naming three people and then being too lazy for a fourth is... pointed. again i've made it clear i do believe Nancy would be sad if Ted died. there's also the opposite question to be raised: why does Vecna go to Nancy and show her Karen, Holly, and Mike specifically? there's other people Nancy is close to, arguably even closer with than with Mike for example since the two of them Also have a very minimal bond. Vecna showing her Jonathan dead, or any of the kids, Steve, even Robin by this point. it would hurt her just as bad. if not worse. because Nancy is Not a family oriented character. she doesn't value her family over her friends, the whole blood is thicker than water is bullshit to her and her characterization shows that, she's actively afraid of repeating the suburban nuclear family life her mother chose. Nancy is NOT more scared of her family dying than she is of her friends dying.

so this raises even More questions now as if the one we have isn't out there enough already. into the question pile it goes:

why does Vecna only show her her family and no one else when it would arguably be equally as shocking for her, if not more so in some cases? why is only Ted missing? and honestly why does Vecna even show Nancy the vision? (there were 7 people present so it was a 1/7 chance it would be her. why didn't he go for Steve standing right next to her? he had to pick one of them but given he had 7 options and seemingly no bias towards any of them we can question this choice.)

as of now we can't answer any of these questions, we'll need more insight from s5 to understand what Vecna is trying to get at here. however, this is where the theory comes back in because as of now it's one of the only things that actually Could explain it.

if Karen was actually Alice Creel and somehow survived that night. (there's a Lot to say about this but this i'll get into it on another post) it would mean Henry's attempt at familicide went even worse than originally thought. not only did his father survive but his sister would have lived as well and even gone on to have a family of her own after the fact. Victor tells us that he fears the "demon" will return, kill him for good, even Vecna himself tells Nancy he's interested in paying Victor a visit soon, so by that we can assume Henry is finishing his sloppy family murder that really only killed his mom next season. (and in all honesty, i don't see Victor surviving it, he's got death flags all over him)

but this presents a new possibility. Alice, now having children of her own, means that Henry's original family he wanted to kill is now extended by a nephew and two nieces he didn't have before. which raises the question: why wouldn't he want them dead too? Henry's murders were never about the people he Lived with, it was targeted at his family specifically - it was about the ideals he hated so much and what their superficially perfect happy nuclear family embodied despite being "bad people" on the inside, according to Henry's perception.

so when Henry finally goes back on what he announced to Nancy and kills his family for real next time, who would he classify as family? just Victor and Alice? or Alice's children who are his blood relatives as well?

because "Mom, and Holly... Mike" would be the exact list of Henry's living relatives according to this theory. minus of course Victor (locked in Pennhurst) and Nancy herself (the one receiving the threat).

and this would also finally give us an explanation of why Ted wasn't included in the vision. being a random well-earning man Karen married years ago he has no blood relation to the Creel family and therefore no significant role in a potential familicide. giving us the explanation that it's not Nancy who doesn't care about him dying but actually Vecna, since he would really just be a Random Guy to him.

this theory would all in all go to explain why:

the 1/7 chance of having the vision fell on Nancy.

Vecna then went out of his way to give her his whole tragic backstory in an immersive dia show instead of us seeing it through El's NINA memories

AND why Ted Wheeler is weirdly missing from the threats known family killer Henry Creel makes.

again, i'm personally not a die hard believer of this theory myself, but at this point there's a lot that would make infinitely more sense when placed with the backdrop of this theory. for this scene alone it's the only solid explanation as of now to really give us a reason as to what could be going on here. of course we're still missing the facts s5 will give us but with what we're working with right now? this theory is actually a lot less crack-y than i initially believed.

(ngl i was pretty anti this theory at first. again, not the biggest fan of the "and they're related" trope in general so it's not my full jam. but I have to consider it at this point because there's just so much in canon hinting at it. it'll either actually be what canon goes for or it's supposed to be a deliberate audience misguide and fakeout to leave people guessing for s5 because there's Too Much going on here. this scene is just the tip of the iceberg too, i'm genuinely amazed how much there actually is both in the show as well as narrative wise)

#i wanted to make a silly post on this theory a few days ago and now i kind of ended up in a full google doc i'm still writing #i didn't buy into it At All starting and now i'm looking at scenes like bro are you for real what is THIS???#it's not even just this scene #you can go at it from the angle of looking at the Wheeler family but you can also just look at the Creel massacre flashbacks #whatever the actual canon conclusion to this is. SOMETHING is going on with Alice's death #even if she doesn't end up being Karen Wheeler. there's more to her 100%#because looking at the show. even Henry's retelling of his family murder is off #not only is it shot oddly. it also presents us a completely impossible timeline that contradicts itself within seconds of the event #so even if Alice is just RandomGirlTM s4 wasn't the last we saw of her. Henry himself is Absolutely not a reliable narrator either #i'll make a post on that soon i promise i promise. the blatant timeline fuckery of that night genuinely baffles me tbh #no one has their story straight for that murder incident at this point not even you Henry sorry to tell you #stranger things #stranger things theory #st5 theory #st5 #karen wheeler #nancy wheeler #mike wheeler #alice creel #henry creel #byler #(I've seen so many of us in the tag talk about this topic we're all insane)#creel/wheeler theory

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hawkinslibrary · 2 years

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Perhaps you’ve noticed coordinates that have cryptically appeared on social media this week relating to Stranger Things. IGN can exclusively reveal these are coordinates to rifts to the Upside Down that are about to open up worldwide!

As we near Friday’s launch of Stranger Things Season 4, Part 1, these “rifts” to the Upside Down – achieved using custom light technology – will take over 15 iconic landmarks in 14 countries on May 26 as part of a Netflix global fan event.

These locations include the Empire State Building in New York City; Bondi Beach in Australia; Duomo Square in Milan; Gran Malecón de Barranquilla Malecon Barranquilla in Colombia; The Gateway of India in Mumbai; Menara Kuala Lumpur in Malaysia; Al-'Ula National Monument in Saudi Arabia; Calle Gran via 28 in Madrid; Cologne Media Park in Germany; XBox Plaza in Downtown LA; Wawel Castle in Krakow, Poland; Medborgarplatsen, Stockholm in Sweden; Shoreditch, London, and Tokyo, Japan.

The New York City experience will begin with the mysterious clock from Season 4 counting down until 8:45 pm ET when a giant rift to the Upside Down will gradually emerge on the southern facade of the Empire State Building. Major moments from the series thus far and Season 4 storylines will also be seen during the visual spectacle. The light show – designed by renowned lighting designer Marc Brickman – will last for 15 minutes and then be looped for roughly two hours.

The European and Middle East spectacles utilize forced perspective projection mapping, playback technology, lighting, and audio to create those rifts. For the Asia and Latin America spectacles, the rifts at those iconic landmarks will be realized using a projection mapping system, smoke machines, and additional lighting wizardry.

Stranger Things Season 4 Fan Event Will See Rifts to the Upside Down Open Worldwide

#there wasn't going to be a good way to post these bc they're all different sizes so #click on the pics or go to the link if you want to see them better !!!#this is so fucking cool to me #i hope people take videos #how do i even tag this skdnfkjn #s4 #st4 spoilers #spoilers #bc it ties in directly to the posters that were connected through the rifts #long post #article #this is the whole article tbh just not the coordinates

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youraveragecatastrophe · 9 months

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We’ve talked in the past about Julia’s red shirt (in her season 1/season 4 outfit) showing her sympathy towards Carmen. What about other parts of her outfits?

First, to contrast with the red shirt peeking through her dark pantsuit, we have Julia’s ACME suit.

[ID : two cropped screenshots from the 2019 show Carmen Sandiego. The first one shows Julia Argent on the train in India, in her dark suit with red shirt outfit. The second one shows Julia in Rio de Janeiro, in her ACME suit. End ID]

The ACME suits, being uniforms, are all the same (the biggest difference being skirts for the women vs pants for the men), the same way the agents are asked for uniformity, conformity and following orders.

The suits have no color apart from a navy so dark it’s close to black - in fact, depending on the lighting they look almost black and white. Quite like their way of thinking.

[ID : a screenshot from the 2019 show Carmen Sandiego. Agent Zari and Random White Agent stand on either side of a door. They are in the shadows and their uniforms look dark and desaturated. End ID]

As I noted on a previous post, at the same time Julia receives her suit and as such lets go of her red shirt, she is asked to renounce her feelings that Carmen is innocent. Season 2, where she almost exclusively wears the ACME uniform, is the one where Julia briefly doubts Carmen and struggles to reconcile following her superior’s orders with her convictions. Ultimately, when she does not manage it, she resigns (season 3) and as such goes back to her red shirt outfit. It is in that outfit that she teams up with Carmen in a substantial way in season 4.

Other agents (and, notably, agent Zari, the most featured ACME agent apart from Julia and Chase) tend to wear black gloves. In line with their behavior, this suggests keeping a distance with their environment, refusing to feel things too deeply. Julia doesn’t wear gloves, however, not even in Stockholm where the weather would definitely justify it. Despite Chief's insistance, Julia keeps paying attention to her feelings.

Then, Julia’s glasses. Her glasses in seasons 2-3 are ACME regulation eyewear : once again, they’re part of the uniform, so the same model as the other ACME agents. Big, bulky, they’re almost rectangle in shape, all sharp angles : this suggests rigidity and an absence of flexibility in ACME’s mentality. Also note the dark lenses : they symbolically obscure the vision.

[ID : a screenshot from the 2019 show Carmen Sandiego. In Indonesia, Zari and Random White Agent stand against the sky. Their glasses' lenses are noticeably very dark. End ID]

And what about Julia’s original glasses, the ones she wears before joining ACME and those she returns to as she leaves ? They are the exact opposite of the ACME glasses : round and clear, what you need to look at the world as it is.

[ID : a cropped screenshot from the 2019 show Carmen Sandiego. In San Francisco, Julia wears her red shirt outfit with her round glasses. End ID]

#carmen sandiego 2019 #julia argent #if you think i'm reading too much into this. yeah. i'm me. reading too far into tiny details is what i do #(though tbh i keep going from 'this is reaching right?' to 'this is so obvious i'm breaking down an open door' so...)#and let me tell you i'm having the time of my life #you wouldn't imagine the glee i felt thinking about this #mentally i'm lying oin my bed giggling and kicking my feet as i type this #that post wasn't lying. the most fun a girl can have is analyzing making connections seeing patterns etc #anyway with all that (see: post) in mind if i had been in charge of the show i would a. have put julia in a uniform with pants #oh my god that skirt is the ugliest thing i've seen in my life.#also i want julia to be butcher #b. maybe more importantly i would have made julia wear her uniform sliiiightly wrong #like sometimes her tie isn't well fastened. or her vest is partially unbuttoned #or like that moment in rio where she says she still believes in carmen's innocence and her glasses are low and she has to recenter them #(they sort of have that with the gloves but she's not the only agent not to wear them so it doesn't really go all the way)#idk. like she tries to fit it tries to just put her head down and work tries to get into that mold acme wants her to be in #and she's. not terrible at it. she's used to being discrete and working well #with only a quick look you think she's perfectly in line with the other agents. a closer look however tells you otherwise #and shows you how she's not quite at ease with what's asked of her and it makes her miserable #which leads to her leaving acme later #do you see my vision

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oveliagirlhaditright · 8 months

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What’re your favorite kh ships?

If I'm being honest... I really only true ship SoKai these days (my forever OTP). Mainly because I feel like that's the only one I can really ever see actually being canon (well, aside from Yozora and Nameless Star, and I also ship them: a lot of that for Versus XIII reasons. My heart won't let go). And, I mean, not that a ship needs to be canon for me to ship them. Not at all. But I'll admit that I've grown out of some of the KH ships a wee bit, as I've found more adult ones in other fandoms to get invested one.

That being said, the KH ships that I do still care about are:

SoKai

RokuShi

Namiku

RokuNami

Terqua (though it seem these days the kids call it Terrqua. Or Terraqua?)

Gulava

Skulmera

Playerlitzia

YozoraNameless Star

Xehaqus

AkuSai

SoRiKai

RiKai

Roxiri (though not in canon. More in fanon. More for crack, kind of, actually. And friendship first and foremost)

I'm warming up to Replinami some these days, because of the tragedy of it all.

I've also started to warm up to Rion a wee bit... that past Shanna thought she'd never see.

SoNami in CoM only.

I could do XionRoxasNaminé. NamiXI, too.

VenAqua slightly, but I'd always choose Terra and Aqua over it (but one thing about the Wayfinder Trio for me, if I'm being truthful, is that I prefer the three of them as friends before any romance with any of them. Part of me even really thinks all three of them are truly just meant to be friends.)

A lot of people ship Ven and Strelitzia for some reason. And I doubt it'll ever happen, tbh. Who knows if they'll ever even really get a chance to meet and be friends. But I do get why they think it'd be cute.

And while I don't know if I truly ship them anymore, a part of me will always have a soft spot for Ventus and Naminé. Because for some reason, I really used to ship this crack pairing, back in the day.

I also don't really know if I ship them... but despite what I said above, I do get the feeling that Nomura might be doing something with Lauriam/Marluxia and Elrena/Larxene.

#i used to LOVE vanaqua and vannami. and some of my heart probably always will for that reason (mainly the former). but for the most part i #think i'm over it #i also used to ship ephemer and ava a tiny bit. but i'd pick gulava any day #i also used to get into olette pairings. but tbh. i just can't really be bothered anymore #i also used to somewhat ship ira and invi because of that comment in back cover about them having to see each other less now so the others #wouldn't get the wrong idea (because taken out of context it sounds like they're dating). or aced and invi because they reminded me (and #everyone) of terra and aqua. but i was never really serious about those to begin with and have let them go. -shrugs-#really. at the end of the day. it's sokai. forever and always: sokai #asked and answered #and really the main ones for me are sokai rokushi namiku rokunami and terqua #but mostly sokai -i say. sounding like a broken record-#and while we're mentioning everything (because somehow that's what this post turned into) i used to be big on larxel (like khii days)#but not for many--MANY--years #wait. i do like gulava a lot too. and rikai. because riku and kairi--in whatever form they're in--don't get enough love #there's also a tiny bit of me that ot3s eraqusxehanortvor. xehaqus is the otp and they're perfect together: i know and agree with this #and yet they have an interesting dynamic with vor. i feel like before dark road started they were the SLIGHTEST bit of a trio. not truly #because xehanort and eraqus still spent way more time together but it was there a little bit #and it's interesting to me that eraqus. of all people. gets annoyed at vor snooping on them some at the beginning of dark road #before the game came out if you told me something like that would have happened i would have guessed it was xehanort. but nah. it's eraqus #and xehanort moreso telling him to chill and letting vor tag along (and the eraqus thing wasn't really serious. and more in good fun #because he DOES care about her). and then they're both DEVASTATED when she dies. and vor really cared about them #also a slight ot3 with xehanorteraqusurd because despite what i just said about vor it's URD they spend the most time with in dark road and #i like their dynamic with her too. -shrugs-#vanikai a smidge back in the day

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Intentionally or not on his part, Sol is probably the reason any kind of Queen media has survived to the present day in the guilty gear universe

Yeah I think about that a lot, too, especially since his surviving piece of Queen media is something as fragile as a vinyl record. With the Dawn of Revival being catastrophic enough to level entire cities, it makes me wonder just how many vinyl are left in the world of GG. Like not even just Queen records, but vinyl as a whole.

A lot of music archive places are in big cities, like the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame's archives are right near the heart of Cleveland (Ohio), with the Hall itself pretty firmly in the center of it so, if Cleveland got leveled, that's a lot of music history just gone forever.

Sol probably had his Sheer Heart Attack record from pre-DoR too, which means he's somehow managed to keep it intact for like 100 some years plus however many years old the pressing of his record is. SHA is a pain in the ass to find now here in 2022, I can't imagine how hard it would've been to get a hold of before stuff like Discogs and eBay lmfao. I'd probably be pretty attached to my Sheer Heart Attack record too if it was basically the only thing I had left from before the world went all to shit haha. Sol needs to hurry and get that thing digitized.

#asks #I wonder if Sol ever had to clean it using wood glue because he wasn't able to find any actual record cleaner after the DoR lol #(you smear the glue over the record and when you peel it off it picks up all the dust and grease)#Oh shit after Begin he ends up living out in a shack in the middle of nowhere #So he couldn't have been keeping the record in his lab or it would've gotten destroyed #Which means he either went home at some point to go get it #OR he found it somewhere AFTER becoming a Gear #I dunno which of those two possibilities would be more heartbreaking tbh #Finding a record of your favorite band intact in a falling apart record store somewhere #Or sneaking your way home in the dead of night and having to go through all of the things from your life you can't ever return to #One day I'll make a Sol post on here that isn't an entire essay I promise lmfao #I got Queen on the brain today

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