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plural-affirmations · 4 months
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Here's to people who used to be/identify as plural, but they're not anymore.
There's a couple different reasons why this might happen (which I'll get to in a minute), but the important thing is that they still deserve love, respect, compassion, and understanding from the plural community.
Shoutout to:
Empty systems, fully fused systems, etc.
Gateway systems that have had all their members walk-out
Systems that have gone completely dormant
Those who have experienced a total system collapse
Rotatien systems [link] or other systems with cyclical shifts in member counts
People who know their headmates are there, but they've lost communication with them somehow
Those who choose to create headmates again after they're no longer plural
The ones who genuinely thought they were plural, but turned out to not be
And anyone else I missed
It's ok to be wrong, it's ok to not stay the same forever, and it's ok to just be you. You don't have to prove anything to anyone, especially not your own validity. You're perfect as you are!
We love you!
🖤💜💙💚💛
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stray-syst3m · 18 days
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Thinking about how I'm a fusion of two common fronters, starling and Parker, and how if I mix their nicknames I could call myself Stark but I also don't want people to think I'm like. Tony Stark or something lmao
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evergreensys · 9 months
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telling singlet friends about your DID who didn't know about it when you met is so weird to explain. like.
"right, so, you know me as Cameron. I went by that name for years, and everyone in the system goes by Cameron, but technically, I'm not Cameron at all and Cameron doesn't actually exist. Cameron was the previous host, who later changed his name to Juno. also I'm Phoenix, a fusion of the previous host and someone else, so I'm partly Cameron, but not really".
how the fuck do you phrase that.
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teenagenutant · 1 year
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Ngl I love Galileo's entire concept. Does he have double the ego-mask and double the insecurities?
hope you don't mind me using this message to compile some asks ^^ (if you don't see yours im probably planning on doing something else with it) thank you so much!! first off... yeah totally LOL
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gali's being totally genuine here. i don't think galileo masks their feelings at all- they're a total emotional open book in contrast to both donnie and leo, lmao. when they're being egotistical, they mean it 200%, but its also the same when they're feeling insecure...
(a bunch more galileo asks beloooow)
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made me giggle LMAO
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in regards to powers: i'm still unsure on exactly how to handle it, but i do like the idea of being able to create more stable portal constructs... maybe being able to teleport constructed items? maybe being able to create more sci/fantasy constructs than donnie alone can...? much to think about. parmi definitely has a combined Even More Insane portal powers, messing with both dimensions and space... (but he operates on rule of funny, lol, so a bit unpredictable) they can probably still use their normal separate abilities to some extent, but probably are still affected by each other!
i love the idea of galileo getting Very hyperfocused Very easily- gali gets their love of learning and being right, and they don't feel hungry or tired as much as either donnie or leo would, so they can get really lost in the weeds... components of a fusion remember everything that happens and would probably retain the information learned, but wouldn't for example make leo instantly knowledgable on all the complicated science stuff donnie knows, and vice versa. aka: leo and donnie both ending up with a LOT of contextless, near-useless trivia after unfusing post-wikipedia binge. the image of them fusing exclusively to combine their ability to Prove Someone Wrong On The Internet is really, really good LMAO
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THANK YOU !! galileo was a fun guy to design, i'm really glad people like them. i think being galileo is actually really fun, especially in the moment... like how initially excited donnie was + how hyped leo was to make scifi stuff in mind meld..
thank y'all for the asks!! i'll be tagging this stuff as 'fusion mayhem au' in the future. (again no promises this'll be a Formal AU Thing but i thought it be helpful for people to have a tag to filter!)
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daybreaksys · 6 months
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Some wisdom from Winter he gave us yesterday
Fusion isn't tragic
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Betty isn't dead nor in suffer, she is fine, she still is herself, she is also different. Fusing with Golb gave her the perspective to understand how unhealthily she was stirring her life. It would be tragic if she would still obsess over Simon in an unhealthy relationship style forever, erasing her own identity and individuality to live for him exclusevely.
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The only "tragedy" is that they're not together anymore, but that's not tragic. They talked.
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She moved on
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She has a life now, a life of her own, outside Simon.
Simon will move on as well. He loves her and wants to be with her, but now he understands that's not the best outcome for them.
That's not your typical happy ending for a romance, but that's a great ending, and by far not at all tragic.
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subsystems · 5 months
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Final Fusion Misinformation
You might have seen people saying something like this before: "studies find that final fusion only works 12.8% of the time." When I was pursuing final fusion, people in the community threw this 12.8% at me to try and discourage me from my desired recovery. After all, what's the point of pooling all of my time & energy into pursuing final fusion if it has such a low success rate?
Although I don't know where exactly this "low success rate" idea came from, most people I know explain that The Plural Association introduced it to them. This would make sense, because this nonprofit frequently states that final fusion has a 12.8% success rate on their webpage & resources. Here's some examples:
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Now, here's the thing:
This is at best a misquote & at worst purposeful misinformation.
The study that is linked here does not say that final fusion is only successful 12.8% of the time, or that only 12.8% of DID patients achieve final fusion.
In this study, a handful of DID clinicians are interviewed about their patients. It says that 39 patients terminated their therapy. 25.6% of those patients said that they reached a successful resolution in their therapy, they no longer needed it. 12.8% of those no longer needed therapy after full fusion, 12.8% no longer needed therapy but didn't fully fuse.
This is not a success rate. This does not say how many patients achieved final fusion. This is just a reason behind why some people left their therapy. The percentage is the same for people who did and did not achieve final fusion.
Here's the exact quote from the study:
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I have no idea how anyone can take a look at this and misconstrue the 12.8% to be about how successful final fusion is. It's possible it was just a misunderstanding, but I have trouble trusting that as The Plural Association has cited this study multiple times, including writing a whole article on it, yet continues to misconstrue final fusion as only being successful in 12.8% patients when that's just, blatantly, wrong.
Please reblog & spread this! Final fusion is horrifically stigmatized and fully fused systems are subjected to frequent harassment & misinformation about their recovery choices. It's not okay, and we should hold nonprofits like The Plural Association to better standards.
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papadile and crocotots summary: what if leatherhead found the turtles before splinter? that's the formula for papadile and croctots!! the croctots learn about the world around them, a mysterious hero, and their father's life before them.
fusions summary: 2012 AU where the turtles discover alien technology that allows them to fuse together to make a whole new person.
ronin plural au summary: made by systems, for systems, of systems!
papadile and crocotots - @crownedcrowrow
fusions - @amevello-blue
ronin plural au - @slippnslide
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antiendovents · 3 days
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abt discussion "is functional multiplicity a way of being non-disordered system?" if no one minds, am gonna add my opinion too.
functional multiplicity isn't non-disordered way of being system. it's like remission / recovery.
when you have some chronic condition, you can manage it and feel fine. you can show fewer symptoms or don't show them at all. but you still have this condition.
if you are on meds for arthritis and don't have active inflammation now, you still have arthritis. you may still have some impairment of damage that was already made. it may flare up. your meds may stop working or start working worse. and your symptoms will return.
also, if nothing of above happens, your life, needs, and experience are not the same as life, needs, and experience of people without arthritis. you need your meds to feel good. you need to go to appointments. you need to be careful with some things. you have different risks and so on.
and also. you have experience. you know how it feels. you know what it is. your life was changed by having arthritis, and you don't lose this experience when your symptoms leave.
so same with osddid. if you reached functional multiplicity. you still have some symptoms (having alters is a symptom). you still may split more alters, get more amnesia, get more other dissociative symptoms. and you still have experience. very personal-forming experience, don't know how to word it better. your brain doesn't work like singlets brains. your alters (in functional multiplicity case) aren't like singlets parts of personality. you can't close this door and unteach your brain to dissociate, split, create amnesia barriers. you also can't erase trauma from your brain development. (early life trauma makes HUGE influence on brain development, and even not only brain but the rest of the body too).
osddid is a super complex experience. it's early trauma. it's very specific experience of not being singlet, of not having singlets personality. it's alters (if we talk abt systems). it's amnesia (not always). it's dissociative symptoms. it's cptsd. and more and more and more.
it's super complex, super influencing. endos often see osddid like "cool dudes in your head and nothing more", and it's offensive exactly because of these reasons. because osddid is WAY more. and functional multiplicity is not "cool dudes in your head and nothing more" too. it's sad, but there's no such thing as "cool dudes in your head and nothing more".
that's why people don't lose osddid diagnosis when reach functional multiplicity.
sorry for being long, boring, and complicated.
nod, nod. That's what I thought, I'm glad to have others agree. Even once you've healed and reached functional multiplicity you still have alters, which are a symptom, and probably a few other symptoms too, which means you have the disorder. Even with final fusion, you're still disordered because your brain can always split again, since splitting is a coping mechanism that cannot be unlearned
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anti-endo-haven · 1 day
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⚠️ sorry rant fueled by that anon you don't have to post this if you want that just really kind of ticked me off. tw fusing and dormancy mentions and lots of angry and frustration about this topic and mentions and descriptions of our personal experiences with fusion and dormancy that was not at all positive, even if as a result of healing
⚠️ VERY TIRED of the "don't tw/cw dormancy or fusion!! its HEALING!!" crowd. because while yes this is OFTEN the case you have to also realize that THIS. IS NOT THE EXACT SAME THING FOR EVERYONE. and both of these, HEALING OR NOT, can be incredibly distressing. both of these things can also happen as a result of extremely negative things. NOT just healing. two introject alters we had who were previously in a subsystem fused as a result of extreme stress and as a result of the other who was formerly a persecutor (janus) reforming and no longer needing the other (cesar) to stabilize and to reenact harm upon. they became incredibly close after the janus recovered and it was an incredibly stressful, painful process for janus full of grieving. tiny's mother in system was in and out of dormancy repeatedly for months as a result of extreme stress and trauma done to her, which horribly destabilized our system and resulted in tiny grieving and grieving and grieving!! fusion and dormancy can be A SCARY THING just because it can happen due to healing and often does DOES NOT MEAN it is always surrounded by and full of happy positive emotions. it can be TRAUMATIC. PLEASE stop invalidating people and what they need trigger/content warned christ
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You can only spew your experiences but others have severe trouble and stress with dormancy and fusion, not everyone wants final fusion either. (/nay ⚠️)
Functional multiplicity is just as an okay a healing path as final fusion.
If people have trauma related to something that might be healing for others, let them take it at a pace right for them. Healing cannot be forced. And you cannot be the one to force it.
If someone is also healing and forcing themselves to get past it, it only makes matters worse. We still struggle with this and it has only made us worse for wear and hardly able to function.
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plural-affirmations · 5 months
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oh, and also, what is “splitting” and “integration”, and how would they work in a median system?
Ok, so, "splitting" is the system function that results in a new headmate. For example, if I had a system of 2 people, and then I or my headmate "split", I would have 3 people in the system afterwards.
From my understanding, it refers to the unconscious and unintentional act of having a headmate "split off" of someone else. It's frequently brought on by stress or similar things. If you were to create a headmate on purpose, that would be a different thing entirely.
For median systems, that might look like gaining a new facet.
Integration, on the other hand, is the exact opposite. It's the function that results in the barriers between headmates being broken down. That might also result in fusion, which is when 2 or more headmates permanently combine.
Some people use the terms "integration" and "fusion" synonymously, but they're technically different processes, even if they're similar.
In a median system, for integration, barriers between facets would be broken down. For fusion, that would be 2 or more facets fusing together permanently.
Basically, you can take almost any information about systems/being plural, and mentally replace the word "headmate/alter" with "facet" for median systems.
Wishing you a very, very good day, and please come back if you need anything else! :) /gen
🖤💜💙💚💛
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plural-culture-is · 1 month
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what am i supposed to do if i don't really wanna be a system
my system's boring, for lack of a better word. no inner world and no hopes of ever having one; when someone's in front they're never a distinct person from whoever else is in front and when someone's not in front they basically don't exist and both scenarios are just fucking lonely; because of the aforementioned nobody actually likes each other, at most they just like the basic idea of each other; we barely switch, which means interacting with each other is even more annoying because external communication literally just isn't an option; also because of the aforementioned fusion is just not possible, let alone final fusion; no littles or exomemories or anything like that that don't sound exactly fun but are at least interesting; i could go on, just the most stale nothing-burger system one could imagine.
but i can't even just be similar to a singlet oh no no no, i have to be JUST plural enough so that it impacts my life too much for me to ignore it. not in any of the ways that plurality could ever be enjoyable or improve someone's life, just a bunch of identity confusion and derealisation. being a system never helps me with my mental health, especially since none of us have roles or anything. all our trauma and mental illness and adult responsibilities are just dumped on whoever's in front this month, and if i need a protector or caretaker then too bad so sad i have to make myself feel better on my own.
i'd probably be fine with all of that if it weren't for the fact everyone else has interesting systems where shit actually happens. saying "oh well all systems are different" doesn't really help because my concern isn't that i'm weird it's that i'm missing out. even if i was a singlet i'd still be able to make my own system if i really wanted to, but i already have a system and it already has clear-cut functions that i can't bullshit my way out of. i just got the worst possible outcome. it's absolutely miserable, what am i supposed to get out of this.
i just want something to make it better. a way to get rid of my system or advice on how to go forward or whatever i'm just sick of this stupid fucking system. none of us like it and none of us ever will.
Final fusion generally isn't something a system can achieve on their own, it's something that takes work with a therapist to guide you. If this is something you want, finding a therapist who will help you with that is your best option. Alternatively, there may be therapists who can help you with communication and making your system function the way you want if that's something you're struggling to do on your own, but there are also guides on those kinds of things if you don't have access to a therapist (like these guides on how to build a headspace, this guide on communication, and these switching guides)
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racket-sys · 12 days
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— Fusys or Substar
☆ when alters fuse but instead of being normal, they function like a subsystem, or a system in a system
★ i call it Substar because that sounds cool as fuck, no other reason :3
sign off - 🥁
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sparklesquids · 9 months
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I am BEGGING YOU to stop moralizing fusion.
in BOTH DIRECTIONS
not wanting to fuse is okay! wanting to fuse is okay!
pursuing final fusion? Okay! Pursuing healthy multiplicity? OKAY!
Your recovery is not going to be the same as someone else's
I know a lot of this comes from a backlash to final fusion being viewed as the only acceptable way to heal for so so long, but it's not okay to go the other way around and shame people for fusion.
I also want to say that I as a DID system have experience unplanned/unexpected fusions that were DISTRESSING. and there have been times where I have been discussing this (since I think people should talk about it more! It's okay to be struggling to process fusion!) and seen people say things like "well WE would never want to fuse" "I love my system I don't want them to go away"
you are valid but you need to recognize the way that you're saying these things in a way that is shaming. you're implying that someone aimed for fusion (they don't always! sometimes it just happens naturally!) or that they wanted their system to "go away".
it's rude.
recognize that not every system is the same and we need to be supporting each other regardless of if our goals or paths happen to change, whether we hope for it or not
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sophieinwonderland · 2 months
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Our system has something like fusion except it's not permanent. Like in Steven universe
That's cool! 😊
Actually, it's probably more common than a lot of people think.
The idea of fusion as this permanent change was really popularized by singlet doctors whose idea of healing was making systems into singlets.
But even in their works, there was a tendency to acknowledge that patients could become multiple again after fusion. It was always shown as a negative in those cases. As a "relapse."
But the ability was always there.
I actually think it's sad how medicalization and perceived finality of fusion has made it something a lot of systems are afraid of.
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smokee78 · 9 months
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So I uh. final fused. unexpectedly, I thought this last bit was going to take a while
went from polyfrag to just. me, and I feel great about it
usually I'm quite anti endo, but I want to spread the love, healing, and recovery, so I'm open to questions I have from anyone, regardless of stance or lack thereof.
Anon is on. inbox open, message, reblogs, replies
questions of any type will be taken in good faith, no matter poor wording, unless they are purposefully hostile (ex. telling me I killed alters or some bs)
it took about a year and a half of active work to get from above 90 down to just me!
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korya-elana · 11 days
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Say it with me guys:
INTEGRATION is the LOWERING OF AMNESIA BARRIERS. This is a process that happens automatically as you heal and is necessary for healing.
FUSION is when 2+ ALTERS FUSE INTO ONE. Final Fusion is the fusion of every (or most) alters into a single identity.
These terms are NOT interchangeable. They CANNOT be used in place of each other. I see so much fearmongering around integration because people actually mean fusion. Please learn what you're saying! Research the terms you use! Misusing terms causes harm!
I'm seeing this more and more in the community and it's driving us up a wall.
Obligatory comment that while final fusion is not our goal, we support those with CDDs attempting to reach that state. Healing looks different for everyone.
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