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subsystems · 5 months
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Final Fusion Misinformation
You might have seen people saying something like this before: "studies find that final fusion only works 12.8% of the time." When I was pursuing final fusion, people in the community threw this 12.8% at me to try and discourage me from my desired recovery. After all, what's the point of pooling all of my time & energy into pursuing final fusion if it has such a low success rate?
Although I don't know where exactly this "low success rate" idea came from, most people I know explain that The Plural Association introduced it to them. This would make sense, because this nonprofit frequently states that final fusion has a 12.8% success rate on their webpage & resources. Here's some examples:
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Now, here's the thing:
This is at best a misquote & at worst purposeful misinformation.
The study that is linked here does not say that final fusion is only successful 12.8% of the time, or that only 12.8% of DID patients achieve final fusion.
In this study, a handful of DID clinicians are interviewed about their patients. It says that 39 patients terminated their therapy. 25.6% of those patients said that they reached a successful resolution in their therapy, they no longer needed it. 12.8% of those no longer needed therapy after full fusion, 12.8% no longer needed therapy but didn't fully fuse.
This is not a success rate. This does not say how many patients achieved final fusion. This is just a reason behind why some people left their therapy. The percentage is the same for people who did and did not achieve final fusion.
Here's the exact quote from the study:
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I have no idea how anyone can take a look at this and misconstrue the 12.8% to be about how successful final fusion is. It's possible it was just a misunderstanding, but I have trouble trusting that as The Plural Association has cited this study multiple times, including writing a whole article on it, yet continues to misconstrue final fusion as only being successful in 12.8% patients when that's just, blatantly, wrong.
Please reblog & spread this! Final fusion is horrifically stigmatized and fully fused systems are subjected to frequent harassment & misinformation about their recovery choices. It's not okay, and we should hold nonprofits like The Plural Association to better standards.
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Ableist: You always play the victim.
Me: yes I have covert NPD that was created as a response to childhood trauma.
Ableist: then go to therapy
Me: it was medical trauma that caused me to devolpes NPD form the mental health industry.
Ableist: your just anti recovery.
Me: if by anti recovery you mean me being anti therapies that are designed to make me convenient for people with neuronormative privilege then yes, I am anti recovery.
Ableist: you don't have a right to hurt people.
Me: Do you have the same energy for Neurotypicals who hurt neurodivergents?
Ableist: 😡😡😡😡
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sickness-stricken · 4 months
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Y'all ever think about how fucked up it is that you can be prescribed things like anti-depressants or anti-psychotics that can make your life infinitely worse upon taking them and the person that prescribed it is just like "Oh. Oopsie 🥰 Let's try another one"
Keep in mind, it's perfectly acceptable to mock stoners who say "Nah man, you just gotta try a different strain bro just trust" and write off what they're saying as quackery, but telling therapist bootlickers about the terrible experience you had on a specific medication is 9 times out of 10 met with "Well you should just try a different one :)"
Okay, then what happens? The same healthcare professional that prescribed me the first med is gonna do the exact same process again with another med with almost identical effects because they have it in their head what I'm like and what I need. They want me to keep nodding along to whatever brain fog shit they decide to put me on next because it looks good on their stupid fucking papers while they laugh at their new favourite test rat.
I'm so tired.
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belinhagamer999 · 10 months
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Traumatic psychology/psychiatry experience flag
[PT: Traumatic psychology/psychiatry experience flag /END PT]
A awareness flag for those who experienced trauma with psychology or psychiatry, and also those who don’t have trauma with it but bad experiences. This is in honor for people who tried to cure their neurodivergence but psychology or psychiatry harmed them in some way, people who had terrible experiences with therapy, and etc.
I decided to make this flag, because we aren’t represented and our experiences are almost always invalidated and ignored even by other neurodivergent people! We have our own right of choice to not recover or seek other ways to heal ourselves, whatever makes us more happy!
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[IMAGE ID: The image features a lilac and white checkered or grid pattern filling a square-shaped frame. At the center of the image, there's a white square that contains the psychology symbol. The design conveys a sense of simplicity and elegance. /END ID]
Lilac and white are typical colors of healing, it represents our internal or external alternative healing methods. Psychology symbol with an X in it shows that we’re tired, we don’t want to be in a harmful environment anymore
Please this is a coining blog, discourse isn’t allowed.
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enbygunderson · 7 months
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PSA: No one is obligated to treat you kindly if you've already decided you're somehow above the effort of doing the same because of your alleged disorders/past traumas. If someone venting about their experience with a particular style of abuse strikes a nerve and feels personal to you, that actually says a LOT about you. Cuz people who walk around the pool are not the ones who get bent out of shape when the lifeguard yells at someone to stop running.
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needtobeskinnyy1 · 27 days
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3 years ago i went into ed recovery. my lowest weight was 102lbs. Now, i am 140lbs. i need to get back to my old body. i cant live like this. give me tips on how to get out of eating and how to resist the urge to snack. i used to be able to go so long without food, now i cant. i fucking hate myself. don’t report pls.
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malocher444 · 2 months
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“Why don’t you get better”
What would you rather have?
Watch the weight go down and feel happy.
Or
Watch the weight go up and cry.
Think about it 🫶.
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justflesh54 · 2 months
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Need someone to bully me into harming better please
hi i need a friend who will motivate me to cut more often and deeper to share sh pics (sh related only) share sh tips and tricks to bully and motivate me into harming myself better than i currently am and if its an area they're knowledgeable on help me get better at restricting without binging i need to get the binge under control so i can lose more, i keep rationalizing recovery but its pointless for me and i need someone to remind me its pointless
I am in a very happy relationship so do not contact me for sexual things i want a purely platonic friendship with someone who gets it (ideally a girl, they tend to be meaner)
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kodiescove · 6 months
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Antirecovery crowd:
Give me your reasons for not recovering. Tell me why you're antirecovery. Do you believe/have you been shown you just can't recover?
I'm going to be writing a post about recovery from mental illness, and I want to include how choosing not to recover is a valid choice.
Will also be talking about how some people just don't recover from mental illness and that's okay.
I want to display that recovery isn't the only valid option.
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subsystems · 6 months
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What some anti-recovery shitheads think happened after I achieved final fusion: Welp! I had DID for basically my entire life but now that I’m fully fused I no longer know anything about DID anymore. I’m no longer a system OR a person with DID, because final fusion means I couldn't possibly still identify as either of those things obviously! Time to leave all the DID spaces I’m in because obviously I have nothing to say on DID anymore since I’ve recovered. My lived experience with DID and recovery couldn’t possibly benefit anyone else! Time to quit my DID therapy too because there’s no way I’d still need that! I am clearly never going to be affected by DID again. There’s no way I would ever still need help or support from DID spaces. In fact, PLEASE harass me if you see me in these spaces! You SHOULD be uncomfortable with people who recover in ways differently from you, and you should NEVER challenge that discomfort! Now I better get out of here so I don’t force you to attack me! ☺️🫶👋
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sickness-stricken · 4 months
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It will never not be funny to me how "pro-recovery" people will scream about Autism Speaks and BetterHelp but then still support "traditional" psychiatry and therapy.
"Autism Speaks supports eugenics!" "BetterHelp is a scam that doesn't work!" Yeah, that's how the entire mental health field is. They ALL see us as cattle to be pushed through their system and eventually disposed of regardless of how nice they might act towards you. If you're lucky they WON'T decide you're unfixable enough to dump you in a ward where you'll be more explicitly abused there. When we decided that healing trauma and recovery were things to be a part of a capitalist system and not built from good communities was when we created the downward spiral for neurodivergents, ESPECIALLY low-income ones.
The pro-therapy people just don't like that Autism Speaks and BetterHelp said the quiet part out loud.
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xxlovelynovaxx · 1 year
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Anti-recovery people: hey, it's okay to be unhealthy. That's not always something you can change and it's certainly not something you have to do. It's okay to exist as you are.
"Pro-recovery" people: OMG YOU'RE what's wrong with the mental health community, you BRAINWASHED me into thinking it wasn't okay for people to seek help if THEY wanted it, this is honestly TOXIC AF.
Anti-recovery people: but ... that's literally not what we said. Most people view recovery as this linear progression of milestones that often includes becoming more palatably neurotypical, which is ableist. What we're saying is that it's okay to recover if you want to, but that doesn't have to look like the mainstream abled version of recovery, and that it's okay to not do so at all. Some people also can't recover to those standards and we celebrate accepting your limitations.
"Pro-recovery" people: So it's OKAY to just harm your friends because of your mental illness? You support being a BAD person and not bothering to change? Also being unhealthy is bad and I'm going to assume because I recovered that everybody is capable of doing so, even if using different methods, and just choosing not to bother because of YOU people.
Anti-recovery people: What? No! Hurting other people is not okay! Do you actually think that these symptoms of a diagnosis are what causes someone to choose to harm other people? That's both super ableist and also a fundamental misunderstanding of what causes harmful, toxic, and abusive behaviors.
Anti-recovery people: In the few cases where someone is truly incapable of controlling a harmful behavior, where someone has extremely high support needs, we support them getting the adequate societal support to have someone help them through these behaviors without anyone getting hurt, but more importantly, without exacerbating their own distress that they are very clearly expressing.
Anti-recovery people: In most other cases, conflating the choices and actions of someone who is mentally ill with their diagnosis is super ableist, as is conflating "it's okay if you struggle to brush your teeth" with "it's okay to treat your friends and loved ones like shit with no consequences". I assume you're defining harm as "actively insulting, belitting, invalidating, physically or sexually assaulting you, though, and not just visibly having symptoms of a mental illness or talking about their struggles, right?*
"Pro-recovery"people: . . .
Anti-recovery people: We're saying that it's harmful to moralize health, for multiple reasons. There's that you are not capable of determining if a person is able to recover, for any given definition of recovery. There's that even if a person is able to, them being unhealthy is not actually harming you, and they have the right to make those choices even if you wouldn't make the same ones for yourself. There's the fact that recovery looks different for everybody, and for many, accepting that you can't "recover" to the expectations set by the mainstream IS recovery. ESPECIALLY given that many things that are called "unhealthy" are perfectly harmless and healthy aspects of neurodivergence that have been unnecessarily medicalized by our ableist society and psychiatric institutions.
"Pro-recovery" people: . . .
"Pro-recovery" people: YOU'RE the reason I wanted to kill myself for a decade and didn't bother to do anything about it! Personal responsibility, ever heard of it? Once I left your CULT I started doing yoga and now I'm BETTER and so everyone else can do that too!
Anti-recovery people: ... Do YOU know what personal responsibility is? All the "anti-recovery" in our names means is that we are against the idea that it's morally wrong to refuse to recover, whether that means refusing to conform to the mainstream ideal of recovery, a choice that you make to not pursue recovery, or an acceptance of your own inability to recover. We are not against choosing recovery as a personal decision if that's what you want - in fact, we support those people.
Anti-recovery people: Anyway, you don't know what led up to someone making this choice. Someone with long-term treatment-resistant suicidal depression is not wrong for not continuing to try meds that have not once worked, pursuing expensive TMS they may not be able to afford which is not covered by most insurance, continuing meds that have some effect but worse side effects than the depression itself, or psychotherapy that may have little to not effect, especially if they have at any point been subject to psychiatric neglect or abuse, which is more common than you're aware.
"Pro-recovery" people: See, I was toxic like you but unlearned all of that so now I'm no longer toxic. Btw I'm currently actively harassing disabled people because they're not 'working hard enough' or using 'better coping skills' and them being unhealthy is a personally harmful to me and everyone that ever interacts with them. What do you mean that's not okay just because the disability is a mental illness?? That's ableist!!1
Anti-recovery people: Okay, so, you haven't even bothered to deconstruct the moralization of healthiness and how that ties into ableism, I see. It's actively bigoted to expect someone to meet certain standards of health when they have a CHRONIC HEALTH ISSUE. This is no different than expecting someone with a chronic illness never to eat or drink anything unhealthy, to exercise regularly, have perfect sleep habits, and otherwise be a paragon of healthy choices or else it's "their fault" for just "not caring enough to put in the work to recover. Of course, you likely also do those things, in which case the comparison is lost on you, because ableists are so rarely ableist against only mentally or physically disabled people and not the other.**
Anti-recovery people: You also seem to believe that you're ontologically incapable of doing harm - you say that it's an "ongoing process" but then your actions show that you haven't bothered learning to listen when people say you're harming them and have just changed your targets to be people who have less societal power than you so they're less able to stand up for themselves and you're less obligated to listen to them. Are you just trying to find a justification for bullying people that others will accept?
"Pro-recovery" people: . . . STOP HARASSING ME!!1
Anti-recovery people: *Looks into camera like they're on the office*
*I have actually harmed others in the past in ways that were influenced by my mental illness. OCD, of all things, was the one that most directly impacted my actions, and I owned my mistakes. That being said, they were still my CHOICE. The mental illness played a role, but it didn't cause the harm I did. You know what wasn't my choice, though? My overreliance on my friends for essentially trauma-dumping and for getting my emotional needs met because I was actively being abused and the system was neither providing me ANY way out nor even adequate mental healthcare (as if that's possible when being ACTIVELY ABUSED WITH NOT EVEN A BROCHURE OFFERED ABOUT HOW TO ESCAPE ABUSE.) I was a drowning person clawing at them for survival, and it was neither of our faults that the system is primed to actively keep disabled people in abusive situations. So don't @ me.
**I would know, I am both multiple physically and multiply mentally disabled.
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anaharasanablog · 2 years
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relatable pr0 4n4 memes
Ana: Hi i am a helpful weight loss coach your doctors may call me anorexia but my name is ana.
Ana: I will start easy. you must restrict your calories to 500.
You:Thanks I need to lose a few lbs anyway
Ana: let me explain how things are going to be now
You:ok?
Ana:Like i said i am called by doctors anorexia ,my name is Ana and i will help you loose some weight (you fat fucker).
Things will work like this, when i am in charge you will be at your thinnest but it will never be enough.while i am in controll you will diet, fast and exersise to oblivion.
you will rebel however and go to the dreaded kitchion . eating whatever you can to rebel.
I will catch you and force you to stick your fingers down your throat and perge
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needtobeskinnyy1 · 25 days
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actually proud of myself rn. i walked to dunkin with my sister and i got a caramel latte and a donut. i was able to avoid eating/drinking them, walked 1.2 miles, and i kept my 16 hour fast going. i kept reminding myself that the flavor and joy would be temporary and i would just feel guilty afterwards.
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sanctuary-for-the-mad · 3 months
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I'm not meant to improve. I'm not meant to be healthy. I'm not meant to inspire people to get better.
I'm meant to get worse. I'm meant to be a warning for others to see what happens when they don't try to get better. I'm meant to make those who are close to me worse. I can't show you that you can improve, but I can and will show you what happens if you don't.
I'm what you'll be if you don't try to improve yourself. Broken, cruel, miserable. That's what I am, and that's all I'll ever be.
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flibbertiigibbet · 1 year
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Tiktok becoming old tumblr 2.0 is kinda sad
The amounts of teens once again publicly romanticizing their EDs, SH and mental illnesses in general is so dangerous and sad, almost infuriating tbh because not only does it affect them, it affects younger kids on the app and other teens that doesn't feel like they're "sick enough" to purposely make themselves worse
Tiktok is insanely anti-recovery and I despise "mental illness" tiktok because of it
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