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yinyangofnevermore · 3 years

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Kids...

“You can’t believe in honesty, that your children can win a war.” -Hero

“Have you no shame signing them up for your war. Train them to fight what they can’t beat. Your sins are what they’ll pay for... Those children you mislead, you’ll watch them all bleed. Strength will not bring victory.” -Divide

#RWBY #RWBY V8 #RWBY V8 spoilers #RWBY V8C9 #RWBY V8E9 #Oscar Pine #Hazel Rainart #Marrow Amin #yin yang of nevermore #RWBY Soundtracks #Jeff Williams #Casey Lee Williams

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lunarwby · 3 years

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f in the chat for the best 5-minute redemption arc

#rwby #rwby spoilers #rwby v8c9 #rwby volume 8 spoilers #hazel rainart #i have so many questions after this chapter holy fuck #im literally shaking

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localboop · 3 years

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can we talk about the fact that in V8C9, Ren’s aura broke before he even saw Emerald AND HE FUCKING CALLED HER OUT FOR BEING SCARED AND HE COULDN’T EVEN USE HIS SEMBLANCE.

WHY IS THIS SO FUNNY

MAN WAS LIKE “ yo she level 10 scared”

BAHAHAAHAH

#what is wrong with me #why is this so funny #lie ren #emerald sustrai #v8 #rwby v8c9 #rwby 8x09 #rwby volume 8 #rwby8 #rwbyv8 #MAN WAS PROB LIKE SHE GON SHIT HER PANTS LMFAOOOOOOO #WHY DO I FIND THIS SO FUNNY

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alexkablob · 3 years

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Emerald spent months pining after Cinder while stuck between Mordor and a whale and then once she finally reunited with her “hero”, Cinder was so profoundly ungrateful that she managed to make Emerald go from full-on undying loyalty to dumping her with a text in the space of 24 hours.

#rwby #rwby spoilers #emerald sustrai #cinder fall #rip emerald simpstrai (v2c1–v8c9)

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green-like-pine-trees · 3 years

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Itty Bitty Wittle Ozmosis Detail

So, each character in RWBY has a musical theme, right? There’s an entire wiki page dedicated to the leitmotifs (aka the basic idea of a character’s theme), and I’m pretty sure it’s mostly maintained by one guy! Anyways, you can see that in some scenes, it’ll be like “This person’s talking, so their theme, this person’s talking so their theme”, it’s kinda funny.

In Refuge when Ozpin and Oscar are speaking on the bike, it’s pretty back and forth. Oscar talks, so Oscar’s Theme, Ozpin talks, Ozpin’s theme, Oscar talks, etc... The only thing of note being that it switches to Oscar’s theme when Ozpin says: “On the inevitable path to becoming one”, then switching back to Ozpin’s when Oscar says he doesn’t want that and Ozpin agrees. Make of that what you will.

But then, we have Ozpin and Oscar’s heart to heart within Monstro in “Witch”. There’s a little cool thing that the music does, where it switches back and forth between their themes, until when Oscar starts speaking about magic influencing the merge, their themes overlap. This is the first time that their themes have done this since the Volume 8 finale where Oscar’s theme sounded a lot like Ozpin’s.

I’m not exactly musically inclined, so I can’t expand past that - I just think it’s neat! :D

#rwby #rwby v8 #rwby spoilers #rwby volume 8 #rwby v8 spoilers #ozpin #Oscar pine #v8c9

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itsclydebitches · 3 years

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On the Anime Slushie guys, I was with them until they said in their V8C9 recap that Yang and Oscar are in the wrong for treating Salem like a monster. Like I'm sorry, but no matter how much hardship she endured that stops being something I expect sympathy for when she's trying to murder everyone, especially when she's in the process of torturing both Yang and Oscar. They even say Ozma's wrong for doing it too which is just... huh?

I haven’t watched any of the earlier episodes yet, but yeah, I personally can’t get behind that perspective. Outside of the general ideas that tend to thread themselves through the RWBY fandom — that all the women are inherently good and forgivable; that if Ozpin is as evil as people claim, Salem must be his contrast and secretly At Least A Somewhat Decent Person — the “poor Salem” viewers seems to rest heavily on (you guessed it) a lot of headcanoning. I can’t speak to the Slushie peeps, but I know many fans have interpreted Salem’s plunge as a total loss of agency: the grimm goop overtook her, forced her to become a monster, and if our heroes could just remove this pesky, magical illness then Salem would go back to being one of the good guys. She’s not a villain, just a slave to evil magic. Which, overlooking her choices made while she was 100% human — I feel for the woman trying to resurrect her lover and deal with a horrific curse, far less for the woman who decided that dealing with that meant lying to a good chunk of humanity so they’d help her commit two murders — this is straight up contradicted by canon:

“She was wrong. This force of pure destruction could not destroy a being of infinite life. Instead, it created a being of infinite life with a desire for pure destruction.”

Idk about everyone else, but “desire” sounds pretty attached to agency to me. It’s not that Salem is forced to ruin people’s lives, it’s that her experience created the desire to enact ruin. “But that’s still just the magic taking over!” No, it’s not. We might have gotten that version of RWBY, but then the rest of the episode showed Salem living alone in a picturesque cabin, having tea with Ozma, ruling four girls in peace... Sure, they did some VERY iffy things in terms of presenting themselves as gods to the people, but ultimately Salem was a pretty chill wife/mom for years. Until she realized her kids had magic and decided to replace humanity with her “superior” genes. Until Ozma went, “lol wtf no??” and tried to escape, so she decided to kill him and her kids. Those peaceful scenes showed us that Salem does have agency. She can, at any point, take hold of her destructive tendencies and tell them no, we will not be killing people today. Sorry! Perhaps with more difficulty than the average person... but that’s not an excuse. Yang has more trouble controlling her anger than others, but that difficulty doesn’t give her a blanket justification for lashing out all the time. Salem, no matter what she is now, is 100% making her own choices... so no, no one is required to be nice to her. Especially when she is currently destroying a kingdom, torturing a child, and attempting to kill three of his friends. We should keep these acts into perspective, AKA, horrendously bad things.

I know I’m a broken record at this point, but it really does boggle my mind that characters like Ozpin are presented as, “I was given the impossible task to save the world and though I’ve tried my hardest for generations, things went wrong :(” and the response is, “You monster! You’d better be punished and beg for forgiveness.” But we’ve got Salem presented as, “I’m the unambiguous Evil Villain of this story who has spent eight seasons doing objectively horrific things on screen without an ounce of remorse :)” and the response is, “You poor thing! You still deserve to be saved. Hey, heroes she’s trying to kill, chop chop. Be nice to her already!” Like yeah, RWBY can absolutely write a “everyone lives/is redeemed/forgiven” story if they want to, but that doesn’t erase that comparatively those responses have been wild.

#rwby #mymetas #Anonymous

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desib717 · 3 years

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I saw a WMG on tv tropes that said that penny is the girl who fell through the world and rwby is known to put their fairy tales into the show (and when thinking about it if penny cones back she's the only one that fit the character)

(I'm not sure if there's more detail on the girl who fell through the world in the Fairy Tales of Remnant book, but I haven't read it so I'm just going by what Oscar and Ozpin talk about in V8C9)

I know right now there are quite a few characters that are theorized to be 'the girl who fell through the world,' especially with all of the characters who have just literally fallen out of Remnant. And based on what Oscar and Ozpin say of the story, I'm not really sure what you mean when you say that Penny is the only one who fits.

I will agree with you though that Penny could well be one of the characters that that story can apply to, and you're definitely right in saying that the in-universe fairy tales are almost always relevant in some way to the main story, so if Penny is intended to be the girl who fell through the world, then that could very well lead to some interesting future developments

#there are some parts of the story that do fit Penny really well #but there are also some parts that I personally don't see as much of a connection to

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knights-of-onyx · 3 years

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No context GIF summary of RWBY V8C8 "Dark"

Ohohoho..... We're going to be destroyed this half of the volume, I just know it.

Welcome back to these shitty summaries, but more importantly, welcome back from hiatus RWBY. Now destroy my soul

V8C7 V8C9

#rwby #rwby spoilers #rwby vol 8 #rwby vol 8 spoilers #rwby volume 8 #rwby volume 8 spoilers #rwby8 #rwby8 spoilers

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marithlizard · 3 years

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First Impressions: RWBY v8c9, “Witch”

"Witch", huh? Presumably Salem. Are we going to get more backstory lore? Because YES PLEASE.

The Atlas army vs. the whale whose teeth loom like mountains on the horizon. They look like toys. I can't help thinking these soldier mooks equal any Huntsman in courage, if not in skill. And this is the first real large-scale action any of them have seen - that anyone in the world has seen in their lifetimes.

eyy Ren has gotten over the snappishness as well as the despairing angst. Suddenly gaining control of his evolving Semblance must help a lot with the feelings of powerlessness. (And though we haven't seen him use it on Jaune or Yang, I'm thinking being able to know for certain how much your friends care about you and have your back is a source of power in itself.)

They're discussing fairy tales MY HEART

Ozpin continuing to confirm he has handed over the reins completely to Oscar. I don't like this about the accelerating merge, though. It feels like we're going to lose Oz very soon. And yet, Jinn's vision definitely showed us Oz and host coexisting in middle age. Did they not use magic in that lifetime? Or is the merge somehow not about "losing" either one of them?

Team FNKI in a line of regular soldiers! They've got to have mobilized all the students, but I wonder if we'll see any others besi- Neon. Neon you are wearing rollerskates to the apocalypse.

...well, why not?

Marrow, YOU'RE just a kid. You can't be more than a few years older, and you're not that much more seasoned. Though I understand the feeling.

So, Hazel, you're ready to rejoin fact-based reality? Or at least listen to someone who pretty much definitionally can't be lying?

(Actually...the only information we have about Jinn comes from her, and it'd be a hell of an interesting twist if she was editing facts to fit her own agenda. I don't think it's very likely for meta reasons, but it'd make a great fic premise, wouldn't it?)

Huh. He sounds much much calmer, and like he's been thinking through everything for the last few hours.

....what? He's not even going to ask??? THAT is a surprise. The existence of Jinn and knowing Oscar gave him the password in good faith were enough to deradicalize a violent extremist. (Wish it was that easy in RL.)

Oscar's little wave

(You know, now that I think of it, Ozpin has never interacted with Jinn himself. She's greeted him twice and he hasn't answered. Does he resent her for not answering his predecessor's questions more helpfully? Mistrust her? )

yes rescue Emerald good

"Just to be clear" - oh god I thought that was Salem's voice and nearly jumped out of my seat.

"I'll come back for it" crap crap crap Hazel's redemption arc is going to be short, painful, and fatal. And Salem will keep the lamp, if not have the password.

And we'll just all turn our backs on the divine artifact-entity and walk away. I guess they don't think she's enough of a person to say goodbye to?

And our eavesdropper is...the one person who CAN'T summon Jinn or ask her a question.

Oh no. No. Please don't have the fandom descend into "Jinn is ablist" discourse. (ETA: upon thinking further I take it back, the gods suck and providing a Relic that not everyone can use is in its way a tiny symbol of their callous attitude to people. )

RJY working smoothly together, nice.

Robyn said people are always suspicious of her, and her truthsense ability has a clearly visible limiting condition. But Ren can apparently read the emotions of everyone around him all the time without them knowing. Surely that would make a lot of people uncomfortable. (Although I expect the writers to ignore this, and will be pleasantly surprised if they explore it at all.)

That's always the way isn't it, you roll a 4 on your concentration check right when a demonic jellyfish is floating by.

Huh, they separated from Oscar? And Hazel is worried about him? I'm still dizzy from the speed of this 180.

uh...hi, Salem. Nice...weather outside the whale today? Seen any good dismemberments lately?

Hazel, you are a terrible liar and you can't bluff. Admittedly the stakes are a lot higher here than in the weekly WTCH poker game.

Salem NYOOM

No one can accuse Yang of not understanding the core competencies.

"Juan"??? I did hear that correctly, yes? Marrow not remembering Jaune's name is hilarious. And I was about to say understandable, but no, they worked with the Ace Ops for weeks! Did you just have him mentally filed as "the blond himbo tank"?

O-kayyyyyy. I can't blame Emerald, but this could go so horribly wrong so fast.

Isn't Hazel-disguised-as-Oscar way too heavy to pick up like tha- OHHHHHHHHH. Now things make much more sense. Oscar was the one worried about Hazel earlier, and failing utterly to bluff. Infinitely more in character.

Awkward Semblance is also extremely convenient in short-cutting negotiations. Nice.

I do not, in fact, have any doubt that Winter would blow up her sister. And in this situation I can't say it's the wrong thing to do. As far as they know their bomb is the only hope.

Wow. I really did not think we’d go to toe to toe with Salem herself at this point in the plot. It's so traditional to save the final boss fight for, well, the final boss. She's terrifying and unstoppable, but not actually more terrifying than the giant whale.

Her regen is just like the Hound's body morphing, but far smoother and faster with a thousand "deaths" of practice.

She sounds more normal right now, oddly. Her voice is lacking both the measured slowness and the resonance it has when she's making speeches. I like the idea of that falling away when she's surprised and exasperated.

Our heroes are very very lucky that RWBY is not a darker show, or those Grimmhand restraints would be doing a lot of gross agonizing damage with their nails. There's no reason she'd want to be gentle at this point.

Yeah, there's the sonorous voice again. Although it wavers again with that "Why do you Keep. Coming. Back?" Does she not know? How can she not know, Jinn's vision said Ozma told her everything. Perhaps she means: why do you keep fighting me instead of hiding like the hermit.

Yang, don't give her information, gah! "Her again." She sounds pleased. I think we are going to find out Summer's fate this volume after all. Salem will reveal it to break Ruby’s spirit. Prediction: it will work.

(EDIT: I completely missed the significance of Yang calling Summer “my mom”. Wow.)

She definitely intends to turn Emerald into something like the Hound.

"No more Gretchens." Oh, of course that's what Oscar said he needed before they could leave, the cane.

Hazel's life expectancy is minutes long but at least it included a satisfying KAPOW. And every single sparkly crystal he owns. Somehow he seems smaller here, less bulky than he did at Haven. Less a titan and more a man.

yigh he's pounding her into mush. Which he has several times before, apparently. This is all to buy you time, Emerald, why are you not running. (I know, I know. She's never had someone actually help her and care about her, only scraps of affection to establish control. At this moment Cinder's hold on her is breaking forever.)

(Neo, on the other hand. Will she bring the lamp to Cinder, who frankly has been a totally crap partner and deserves no loyalty? Is she still after revenge? My bet is still firmly on her planning to backstab Cinder as soon as Ruby is gone. But beyond that, we don't know her thoughts at all. She might join the heroes, or disappear like Raven to hide while the apocalypse works itself out.)

That's true, Oscar, but what can you do to stop her?

Hah! Clever, Hazel. And she's actually screaming in pain from the fire, whereas she didn't make a sound when being pulverized.

What does the cane DO? It's impressive as heck, but I can't tell. Channeling his magic, certainly. Are we going to lose Oz right now? With no chance to talk to Ruby or Qrow or anyone, to reconcile? It seems all too likely, and such a waste.

Which makes me think, in turn, that perhaps we will lose Oscar too in a way. Unexpected - I have always thought the merge would end with Oscar holding all the memories. But maybe he won't be quite either of them anymore, even if he remembers both and the others still call him Oscar. And that thought also makes me sad.

Anyway, good episode, though now the title doesn’t seem particularly relevant. Hazel was much more the focus.

#rwby #rwby spoilers #rwby v8 spoilers #rwby volume 8 spoilers

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abysskeeper · 3 years

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Summary: There's a fullness in his mind that's ready to burst at the seams. There's a clawing in his heart searching for the presence now missing.

When Oscar said he didn't want the merge to happen, he didn't realize how close he really was to having everything he never wanted.

Cross-posted at fanfiction.net

I touched up this drabble a while ago and wasn’t going to put the links here since the post is already floating around. But you know what? Maybe now it’s relevant. Speculative post V8C9

#rwby #rwby8 #rwby spoilers #oscar pine #ozpin #rwby fanfiction #my writing

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yinyangofnevermore · 3 years

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Fear

She tried to play it off

But then

#RWBY #RWBY V8 #RWBY V8 spoilers #RWBY V8C9 #RWBY V8E9 #Emerald Sustrai #Salem #yin yang of nevermore

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lunarwby · 3 years

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the way ren gets empowered by what jaune says and how it’s connected to ren’s voice actor too with in such a deep way is AHHHHH THE FEELS

#rwby #rwby spoilers #rwby volume 8 spoilers #rwby v8c9 #yang xiao long #lie ren #jaune arc

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wolfbetweenrivers · 3 years

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Just to let y’all know...

Saturday is not just the day RWBY V8C9 airs. It’s also Pokemon Day. While I’ve only been drawing RWBY fanart so far, it’s not my only interest. I love Pokemon too, and quite a few other things, and I expect a new Pokemon game to be announced by Saturday. If that happens, I will be doing both RWBY and Pokemon fanart.

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yinyangofnevermore · 3 years

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Once Upon a Time