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lnsfawwi · 2 months

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Rumlow said Bucky and all of sudden I was a 16-year-old kid from Brooklyn

yes, Steve froze bc Rumlow said Bucky's name, but it's the 16 yro Steve that froze, not the 30ish Steve! which means 16yro Steve froze when Bucky was mentioned!

So imagine back when they were still in school, Steve overheard random classmates chatting in the hallway

Person A: Bucky won another boxing match. gosh, he's so cool!

Steve: *blushes for no reason*

Person B: we have math together. he's so smart, he even corrected the teacher today.

Steve: *heart pounding so hard he's gonna have a cardiac arrest*

(after school) Bucky: what's with the asthma attack today? what caused it?

Steve: nuthin'

#bucky barnes #steve rogers #stucky #stevebucky #captain america civil war #so we all know that's when steve had his gay awakening right #there is no heterosexual way to explain this #why specify 16 #why would 16yro steve froze at the drop of bucky's name #why bucky related emotion caused steve to regress to a teenager #it's consistent with steve's terrible emotional intelligence back then #they are gay your honor #seriously this regression is a BIG DEAL #cus steve is always very mature he had to act responsibly since he was a kid #and then he's suddenly a 16yro kid from Brooklyn #AHHHHHHH #this deserves a meta

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picnicbitchsokka · 7 months

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deadass caught sokka checking zuko out

#oh sokka #i belive this is right before the moment zuko turns around and says ‘what?!!’#‘i….didn’t say anything’#the fool and the fool #please explain this ss in a heterosexual way…YOU CANT #zukka #atla #zuko #sokka

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worstloki · 2 months

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Sigyn avoiding the allegations by only referring to masc Loki as her ‘husband’ and calling fem Loki her ‘bestie’ in the most allegation-inducing tones possible while insisting she’s unmarried for the time being

#‘how are you not married??? that’s the same guy!!!!’#Sigyn: I’m heterosexual 🗣🔥🗣🦅💥💥🦅💯🔥🗣✨💥💥🦅🚨🙌🗡✨🦅💥💥#people like why don’t u just call him your partner or explain that he’s living life as a woman at the moment and she’s like ‘...no <3’#Sigyn avoids misgendering this way but also avoids people being mean about the gender switch bc she insists fem Loki is not the same guy #a true ally fr #‘does your husband know you’re at the club right now??’ *sigyn looks Loki in the eyes and asks ‘what husband?’*

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sevendutchies · 3 months

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People in this fandom will really look at The Fool, Patience, Lacey, Carson, Sedric, Hest, Davvie, Lecter, Kennit, Ash/Spark, and yes, even Fitz himself, and still have the gall to call it queer bait.

These characters are explicitly queer, their actions impact the narrative, they are well written, and their identities are treated with respect. That is the best possible queer representation you could ask for in any story.

I've seen people on tumblr basing the likelihood of if they read this series on whether or not it's "actually gay" and I'm here to tell you that it is. There are queer characters. There are queer protagonists. And no matter what you see people in the fandom say, Robin Hobb wrote some amazing queer representation in a genre that rarely sees it at all.

EDIT: and I think it's pertinent to note that, no, characters who are questioning or struggling with their feelings about sexuality instead of knowing 100% does not make something queer bait or "less gay"

TLDR;

Queer bait = disrespectful marketing ploy that exploits queer audiences

Queer bait ≠ "my two favorite characters never have sex"

#Fitzchivalry ''i wondered if I lied so that I need not be ashamed of myself'' farseer thank you everyone #quite frankly the disrespect to Robin Hobb in this fandom is in EXTREMELY poor taste #the interview from 2008 before half the series was written where she explains why Fitz would not suddenly be head over heels for a person h #perceives as a man because all of his life he has only had heterosexual experiences apparently means that no queer characters exist #whatsoever in the whole series and Robin Hobb is an irredeemable backwards old lady who can't get with the times. right.#Fitzchivalry ''what were we? Beloved'' farseer #this is actually not supposed to be a debate over whether Fitz is canonically queer or not. he is. ope.#also...I do read Kennit as queer. just cause he is traumatized and his queerness comes out in predatory ways doesn't mean he's not queer.#that's called writing a compelling villain baybee #Hest!?!? thank you Robin Hobb for the evil gays god bless <3 #modern reader: the author didn't describe these characters dicks touching in detail therefore she is homophobic #rote #realm of the elderlings #fitzchivalry farseer #the fool #I really had to get this out of my system guys. thanks <3 #as if Robin Hobb didn't give us the FOOL. nonbinary/gender fluid character OF ALL TIME.

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deathtodickens · 11 months

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bering and wells was canon. i am not sure where or when the mood diverted into "it should be" but it is. and yes, conversation about how representation is presented has surpassed the show's creative existence by nearly a decade but there are ANSWERS to all of these questions and a lot of old heads in this fandom worked hard (and had a lot of fun trying) to get those answers. if the very people who played those characters intentionally played them as in love before the influence of fandom and, repeatedly (to this day), affirm that they were and are in love, the canon lives on.

i'm (not) sorry jack kenny is so wounded by the fact he didn't think up the most popular thing about a show that he decided to destroy the entirety of by throwing into a heteronormative chum bucket - but that doesn't negate the fact that MYKA and HELENA are IN LOVE and in love ON SCREEN, and the whole writing, filming, editing, and effects teams were all in on it.

#like please explain how every scene they're in together is set up and scripted the way they are #frame by frame explain this to me #please i am begging y'all #what is the reason #other than bisexual shenanigans #see #you don't know either #canon #bering and wells #there is no heterosexual explanation for any of this #it's called subtext my friends #i know y'all hate it but it is a powerful storyteller when the PTB refuse to let your story be told #and the funny part is that they never see it coming

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4ggravation · 11 months

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how do i explain that i think alhaitham and kaveh’s relationship is uniquely queer and trans in nature without sounding like i’ve lost it

#i dont know how to #i cant put it into words #but their relationship is just a fucked up homoerotic Situation. maybe a qpr that went off the rails?#either way #if you interpret them as heterosexual youve already lost the plot horribly #idk #i tried to explain it to someone but it didnt make sense #like. at all #its just #iykyk etc #kaveh #alhaitham

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sailorblossoms · 2 years

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Visualizing a deranged 5th year Simon wanting to follow Baz everywhere and jump on him but not really understanding why because he had yet to figure out his feelings or had yet to understand how actual sexual attraction even felt like... the line was "I wanted to jump on you, I didn't really think beyond that" (to answer whether he wanted to kiss Baz back then) (which he later answers "I always want to kiss you, I always have" when he actually looks back and thinks about it) but I can't help but wonder how it would have gone down if 5th year Simon actually got around to do any jumping lol would he have frozen there?? like right on top of Baz??? with his violent little brain scrambling for his next move but coming up empty like

#snowbaz #simon snow #baz pitch #looking back at simon deranged behavior that cant possibly be explained in any heterosexual way its always wild and hilarious #baz x simon #carry on #awtwb #simon snow trilogy

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daisyachain · 4 months

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Restorative or Transformative?: Homoerotic Subtext, The Closet, and Ciphers in Pop Culture. The nature of commercial art is that it’s sometimes bad and inconsistent. Notably it’s also misogynistic. One way in which audiences try to reconcile massive plot holes or gaps in character motivation is by reading secrets or hidden information into a plot.

Commonly, male characters are interpreted as closeted gay or bisexual to reconcile the absence of women from commercial narratives with the generally stunted and poorly-written male characters that form the focus on said texts. This reading has become especially common among a non-heterosexual milieu. Rather than transforming the original text into some radically different new form, this closeted interpretation seeks to make the original text stand on its own as a story rather than a Swiss cheese of dumb writing decisions.

This interpretation only works for a specific type of pop, usually genre fiction. Any story in which tortured male leads eschew women in favour of male-male bonds (because female characters are constantly killed off, written sparsely, or written out, because the production team keeps casting their male buddies, because actors demand to keep having scenes with their bros, whatever) can become a sounder structure if you put one of them in a closet.

The gay interpretation is the natural consequence of shoddy misogynistic writing from ventures like Supernatural, Naruto, all the biggest hits. It’s also the natural consequence of more benignly misogynistic writing like The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes or The Lord of the Rings, where women aren’t necessarily rejected but are simply absent from the worlds of the protagonists. When the emotional crux of the story falls on male-male interactions, this reads as romantic because society at large priorities (definitively heterosexual) romance as the pinnacle of human connection. Two forces are in conflict, the primacy of heterosexuality (read as: romance) and the primacy of men.

Anyway. All that is to say that the typical gay or bisexual reading of male characters in pop fiction comes from a very real place. But, in some places, that’s the default interpretation. Angst, insecurity, secrets, double lives, fatigue, disappointment, restrained passion, stunted personal growth, anyone living in the closet can tell you that it impacts and defines your whole life to know that you live in a way fundamentally incompatible with The Proper Way that life is structured around down to tax law and superstore prices (which assume a heterosexual nuclear family unit). Characters in fiction also tend to have personal problems because that makes them interesting and tasty.

If you’ve grown up on stories with the specific type of misogyny that can be papered over with a closeted interpretation of the male leads, carrying this interpretation over to any male character will make sense more often than not. Even a bit of angst or insecurity? Well of course that makes sense if a character is closeted.

Except that’s hurt a normal part of fiction, and sometimes the closeted interpretation takes away from the point of a character. If a male character is on another axis of marginalization, the closeted interpretation imposed by the slash reading community downplays or trivializes the effects of that marginalization in the plot by overwriting it with another type of marginalization. Alternately, sometimes a character’s heterosexuality is a part of the story. There are some sorts of critiques or investigations of misogyny or masculinity that don’t work if the character has an ‘opt out’ of the cisheteropatriarchal perspective. Not that gay/bisexual men aren’t except from misogyny, but misogyny masculinity and heterosexuality are so tightly linked that it sort of defeats the point if you interpret that character outside of heterosexuality.

All that is to say—the closet interpretation is a quick and easy spice to apply to the weaker parts of action-adventure genre fiction to make it taste better. It draws from a large enough sample of art that it’s pretty widely applicable. Because of that, it’s part of some people’s [my] default interpretation package just because the semi-dull macho show at least gets less dull if you imagine there’s a reason for there to be no girls besides simple hatred. That then forms its own problem where the interpretation that works with your average genre work gets then blanket-applied to all genre works and obscures the places where the closet interpretation doesn’t fix the work, and actually makes it less interesting.

#kelsey rambles #I’m as guilty of it as anyone.#just thinking about Johnny Storm and like. bisexual ass character. deeply bi guy. but.#what IF he’s just heterosexual. what then. wouldn’t that almost be…more interesting #if he’s Like That and not closeted? what twisty gnarled psychological torments would a good comic have to explain him #and on the other hand. that one post I saw about how miles/hobie totally misses the point that their relationship is about solidarity #spider-punk and spider-byte’s alliance with miles are the same thing and to read it as romantic erases the important part #and on a third hand. when speaking of miles’ story. the stupid fucked Bendis running joke/subtext with Ganke #to have Miles be gay would possibly take away from the messy and interesting part of his character that is being a person with nothing #to hide. a totally honest genuine straightforward kid who is forced to start a double life by an outside actor #but at the same time it’s dumb and a cop-out to throw in that much bait and that much of a genuinely charged tense friendship #and then go ‘lol jk. nothing to see here’#the other thing is the semi joke in atsv about ‘coming out’ as spider-man #the most important thing about Miles having to hide is his relatively precarious position as a black kid. he’s not afforded the leniency #that Peter Parker would expect if he got unmasked. Miles is more cautious because he is in more danger because he’s Black #so to paint that struggle with the gay brush is to disregard the character’s raison d’être. while also #using that sort of language and structure deliberately puts a gay lens over that character and ignoring that or kicking it to the side #feels a bit cheap. to borrow the look and not the substance #way too many tags and it’s past my bedtime. thesis statement is:#miles morales is a character whose history is fraught with plenty of real gay subtext and whose character struggles are entirely divorced #from any sense of gender performance. he’s subtextually bi but that’s got so little to do with his story that it feels almost wrong to read #that into him because there is so much other interesting stuff going on with him

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pythiaswine · 1 year

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CAN I JUST TALK ABOUT HOW BAD I WANTED LMM TO LEGITIMIZE LAMS but i kept being let down over and over again like ughhhh. first he gives the Angelica relationship a whole song and subplot and yes it was great, the whole musical's a lyrical, compositional, choreographed masterpiece BUT WE AREN'T HERE TO DISCUSS THAT. we are here to talk about how his source material was biased because Chernow gave breath to the Angelica thing, as improbable as it was (especially compared to the probability of the Laurens/Hamilton relationship? homophobia.) but then picture it, I'm a young, naïve teenager, I'm very fixated on lams and history, I loved the Hamilton musical, was a Hamilton teen and that part of me is irreparably burned into my brain. then LMM drops this sneaky little tidbit like the beacon of wisdom his fans see him as bc he wrote a historical self-insert fanfic for broadway, he says the Laurens/Hamilton relationship was real. great! but he didn't actually put it in the musical and that disappointed me. And damn, okay, he had a few lines here and there in the off-broadway version that were cut but maybe that wasn't his fault or maybe he planned on fleshing it out more and had to cut it down to make it more palatable for the people sponsoring his ride to broadway, a pathetic excuse but it could make sense. For all that, I could have forgiven, forgotten, etc etc... but I will NEVER forget naïvely believing during the year the Hamildrops were released that we'd finally get a Laurens/Hamilton song. In April it didn't happen, I thought okay, maybe pride month. Didn't happen in pride month. Didn't even happen in September or October, or as a last-minute gay reveal in December. It just didn't happen at all. We even got some covers of songs that already existed without notable variations on the lyrics and it's like... bro couldn't have done the bare minimum and had a Laurens cover of Satisfied? That's the moment I was let down for real. I had truly BELIEVED that because he said himself that the Laurens/Hamilton relationship was real, he'd actually follow through on something that could be digested by the fans more than a forgotten tweet. but damn it hurt. absolutely no queer representation in a musical about Alexander Hamilton. bro. to play devil's advocate, there is no way to "prove" hamilton wasn't straight (eye-roll) but it's not like Hamilton: An American Musical is historically accurate in the least. It's embellished, fun, glamorous. It paints people in their best (unless you're charles lee lol) considering it's about a bunch of people who definitely were not kickass abolitionist BIPOC, but because LMM found it important to represent America today, he made the cast very inclusive to cultures and ethnicities of those these historical figures oppressed. so why can't he fictionalize the story a bit more? it's not even FICTION BRO it's literally more provable (and less problematic and more interesting) than the Angelica/Hamilton affair so WHYYYY. all i mean to say is, i was very let down and i can't appreciate the musical or LMM the same as I did when i was younger because now it gives me the straight-man ick. the "yeah they were gay!" for ++ points with the lgbtq+ fans but a severe lack of action. i hate that shit. real allies would say "fuck your homophobia, i'm publishing my art as it is even if i face backlash and censorship," because that's how shit gets done. it really really let me down, that's all, good night.

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sciderman · 2 years

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fantastic four #362

#is there a heterosexual explanation for this? science side of tumblr please explain.#spideytorch #sci talks comics #johnny storm #peter parker #the way he looks at him...

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the-mad-prince-of-denmark · 4 months

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Hilarious statement both for how out of left field it is and because if only one of these two men into dudes, ITS FUCKIN DAN BABY

#literally the way I’ve explained the homoeroticism of Reanimator to several friends/#the plot doesn’t really make sense and the characters relationship doesn’t really make sense if they don’t feel SOMETHING for each other #that goes beyond traditional heterosexual plutonic affection #and like #there are A Lot of shades of grey within that #there are many ways you can interpret #their dynamic #famously Jeffrey Colmbs. the actor who plays Herbert. reads him as acearo and is kinda… weird about any gay subtext readings #but like. the plot simply doesn’t work I’d Dan isn’t drawn to Herbert in some way #if any and all of their closeness is just total manipulation on Herbert’s part. then that indicated there’s something in Dan that craves #physical connection and emotional intimacy. and RESPONDS to that manipulation. it WORKS on the man #re-alr #live read

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remcadll · 2 years

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Thanks for the queer rep Horikoshi

#BNHA #BNHA 364 #AFO #daruma ujiko #MHA Spoilers #BNHA Spoilers #I mean. we all know Ujiko is in love its so obvious but I didn't think that he would be so direct abt it like 😭#there is no heterosexual way to explain this like actually none zero room for debate #but maybe.. fighting chance for canon spinaraki? potentially? 😳#at least on spinners side maybe perhaps please??#This is actually so funny though like 120 year old gay war crimes scientist is BNHA's first love confession

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lesbicastagna · 3 days

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one thing i find interesting is that ever since i was little i enjoyed feminity in a way that wasn't sexual. i have always been into fashion i guess maybe that plays a part.

but obviously since coming out as a lesbian to my family, my mom has read all these interests of mine with a sexual undertone to them. so my innocuos magical girls posters are porn, my kpop girl groups albums are porn etc etc which should be insulting as a concept but i just find it so funny cause, even during my teens where i was very clueless about my sexuality, these interests were never about something sexual to me...

#like. there is a difference about looking at a pretty girl with nice hair and makeup and a cute outfit and thinking. cute she makes me happy #and seeing a woman that i find hot. who is most definitely not looking cute in a short pink skirt doing a pretend sleepover photoshoot #a #this is in my top 5 things i try to explain to ppl who arent lesbians and they go i think you're just a repressed crazy lost cause #cause i dont wanna jump every woman i see? ok damn #to clarify i do think these interests are in some way connected to me being a lesbian in the sense that i prioritize women #i enjoy more easily content focused on women's relationships. and a lot of my interests are geared towards a female public #and exclude heterosexual romance because of their format. so it does make sense but its not like i get off to it

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s0up1ta · 1 year

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listen i need to know if im not alone here- was anyone else's bisexual awakening just dance-