#there’s no right or wrong way to be a lesbian

[the-sappho-of-lesbos]

It’s interesting seeing documents from both books and online that can showcase the divide from generations in the gay community. Be it with language , culture , fashion etc.

It seems like we go through a push and pull and always end up going around in circles.

Like around the discussion of the use of partner , butch femme identifies, politics etc.

Certain generations of gay people crave or long for or push for what was denied of them in their times , younger people will mainly see the points of those who have come just before them and then might push for the opposite.

Like with partner for example. I’m just speculating so I could be way off. But based on what I have read and the discussions I’ve had with lesbians my age, much older and younger , what I can gather is in the past the big push for the general use of partner with both gay and straight couples was that normalisation. And I think a lot of these came from times when pushing for gay marriage was one of the biggest things going on the community. Wanting to not be seen as other and just the same as their straight counterparts.

Especially in online spaces you see a lot of older lgbt members absolutely flabbergasted and confused over why young lgbt members feel like partner should be a gay only term or why they get let down if they find someone in a straight relationship using partner. It was something older generations really pushed for. This is the fruits of their labour because it was so important to them at the time.

But now I think with stuff like covid, lack of gay spaces (at least the same way they used to be), a massive online presence and just general loneliness many young people are facing in modern times , you have younger people craving community. Craving things they have seen in the past. Craving ways to find and communicate themselves to each other.

It’s not that one group is right and one is wrong , it’s just the goals and desires are different.

I think you see that with Butch Femme culture sometimes too. There were times where many lesbians felt pressured into those labels and they talk about it in a lot of the books I’ve read. But then there was also a massive push back against the culture where they were seen as outdated and many lesbians were shamed OUT of butch femme culture.

The way society changes and what has come before us often shapes what the younger generations of community will try and push for.

#just talking out of my butt honestly I don’t know if I’m making sense #personal

[uldahstreetrat]

is it awfully late at night for this? yes. but I just finished off a bottle of the worst watermelon liquor Ive ever purchased so

the pros and cons of each are below the cut, have at!

the Official Ophianne Love Life Fight

Artoirel de Fortemps

pros: probably the only stable relationship Ophianne has ever had, they both love music, witty banter goes hard

cons: right person wrong time but if it was the right person would there be a wrong time, she did the whole "ishgard noble's wife" thing once and it ended poorly, their dads are dating now and that makes the whole vibe REALLY weird, she had five years in the First to get over the breakup

Thancred Waters

pros: the OG love interest, both huge flirts, Ryne's parents fr, combat couple, he is SO much shorter than her, he constantly plays into her theatrical dramatics, no one else can make her laugh the same way

cons: they fight a lot tbh, he tends to run off and do his own thing and she has very specific daddy issues about that, they havent really spent much time together since ShB

Altani Dotharl

pros: tiny lesbian x super tall pansexual, would kill and die for Ophianne without hesitation, lowkey got that yandere vibe

cons: it was kinda a short fling, they really dont see each other much, lowkey got that yandere vibe

Guhthaerz

pros: hot and never wears a shirt, both have pirate backgrounds, actually someone that's taller than her for once, is absolutely so super into Ophianne, mid battle flirting all the time, almost holds his liquor better than she does - almost

cons: kinda sorta might be working for the villains, she's only flirting with him because her life has gotten too stable, they like just met, also again he's working for the bad guys and keeps ending up in fights with her niece

YOUR wol/oc

pros/cons: i dunno you tell me lmao

#this is one of the silliest things ive ever done #ill have to reblog this in the morning cause most people are almost definitely offline rn #im giggling so hard about this whole deal #people encouraged me into thinking it was a good idea

[dirty-bear-rick-sanchez]

Hi, sorry to ask but have you written any fanfics where Jerry is autistic? I've read your autistic!morty fic and thought that was excellent. I'm trying to find Jerry-centric fanfics where he isn't mischaracterized/demonized. (Way too many people write Jerry as transphobic which -_-ll no he isn't)

Hi, no need to apologise! I haven't written any autistic Jerry fics and I'm not sure if I know of any (if anyone else does, please leave recs on this post!). I do 100% view him as autistic though. Thank you!

Yeah honestly Jerry being portrayed as transphobic is something that bothers me as a trans guy? I headcanon him as supportive but clueless/cringe at times (he a little confused but he got the spirit).

I do have a trans Morty WIP with a scene between Morty and Jerry, although Morty is still very early on in figuring out that he might be a guy, and Jerry kind of knows something is up but assumes Morty is a lesbian rather than a trans guy and so kind of fumbles but ultimately is trying to be supportive/nice. Morty does worry about Jerry not loving him anymore if he's trans, although this is Morty's POV rather than being objective/a thing that actually happens.

I'll leave the scene below the cut in case anyone's interested. Warnings for mention of periods (and them being referred to in a gendered way), fear of transphobia from parents, accidental misgendering (and misgendering/deadnaming of Morty in the text since this is only the very start of Morty's gender questioning).

“Morti? Rick said you’re sick. Are you OK?” Jerry opens the door. Morti quickly shoves her phone under her pillow. Thankfully, her dad is as oblivious as ever as he walks over and rests a hand against her forehead.

“You don’t feel warm. Is it, uh, you know,” Jerry points down towards his own abdomen, “woman troubles?” he asks in an exaggerated stage whisper. Morti wants to die all over again. She presses her face into her pillow.

“Hey, sweetheart, i-it’s OK.” Morti feels Jerry rest a tentative hand on her shoulder. “Do you need anything?”

Morti takes a few deep breaths to calm herself and then sits up.

“N-no, Dad, I’m OK.”

“OK, honey.” Jerry wraps his arms around her and Morti can’t help but wonder if he would still hug her like this if he knew what she’d spent the past couple of hours reading about. She hugs him back tightly, suddenly unable to stop thinking that she might have to make the most of the affection while it lasts.

When Jerry pulls back, his face clouds with concern and Morti realises she’s once again been crying. She’s getting really sick of that.

“Morti, honey, what’s wrong?”

Morti feels the question writhing around in her gut until it chokes its way out of her mouth. “Dad… you’d love me no matter what, right?”

“Of course, sweetie. No matter what, you’ll always be my daughter.”

The words are meant to be a comfort, but all Morti can think about is the possibility that she’s not his daughter.

“Morti? Are you gay? It’s OK if you’re gay, you know.” As always, Jerry is well-intentioned but clueless. Truthfully, Morti’s not really put much thought into her own sexual orientation, and it’s not her main concern right now. She shakes her head, and Jerry looks doubtful but leaves it. 

After a few minutes, Morti works up the courage to speak again. “Dad? Could-could you… tell me a story? Like when I was little?” she cringes as she says the words, knowing she’s far too old to be asking for something like that. To her relief, Jerry smiles.

“Sure thing, sweetie.” 

He launches into an improvised story, very similar to the ones she remembers him coming up with when she was younger. She has a memory of Summer complaining Jerry’s stories were boring, always demanding more action. However, once Summer had aged out of wanting a bedtime story and left Morti as the sole listener, Jerry had settled comfortably back into his original stories, which Morti found calming and reassuring. 

Her dad’s voice relaxes her and she rests her head against the pillow, feeling her eyelids begin to droop. Jerry’s hand rests on her hair and strokes it gently, just as he used to all those years ago. It’s enough to block out the negative thoughts for the time being, and Morti is so exhausted from the recent events that she soon drifts peacefully into sleep.

#rick and morty #rnm #morty smith #jerry smith #autistic jerry #autistic jerry smith #trans morty #trans morty smith #transphobia #i hope this is at least semi-coherent #the brain fog is bad rn 😅

[aholotte]

The point of being a lesbian is to like women, not to hate men. That’s like if I said that the “point” of being a gay guy is to hate women, which is obviously not true.

So many exclus are so hateful to anyone who doesn’t fit their strict label of what a lesbian is, as well as anyone who isn’t a lesbian, that I question if they’re even happy.

#the only requirement to be a lesbian is to have a queer attraction to women #nothing more nothing less #I’m convinced that exclusbians are just political lesbians #they’re more focused on hating men; bi people; and trans people that I’m not sure even if they even like women #they don’t like anyone other than themselves #because they’re so hateful #lesbianism is different for everybody #there are many different types of lesbians like #he/him lesbians #they/them lesbians #trans lesbians #aspec lesbians #arospec lesbians #non-binary lesbians #Butch lesbians #femme lesbians #multigender lesbians #mspec lesbians #and many more #there’s no right or wrong way to be a lesbian #for me I’m bi but also a gaybian since I’m bigender #gay for men and lesbian for women #it’s cool actually #not that deep #anyways #respect all lesbians #don’t force someone to fit into your definition #I’m not here to conform to your strict exclusive boxes #lesbianism is an inclusive label #cry more

[sciderman]

Sometimes i remember a comics moment i randomly came across somewhere, where Sam Wilson mentiones a musical and Steve Rodgers says he doesn't like musicals, to whitch Sam goes "Guess that means you really are straight" and even tho i don't care about Cap America or the Avengers, the moment stuck in me for that quote by Sam. And like....Sci, any ideas if straight men actually don't like musicals or is that bullshit?

actually i think i know more gay men who hate musicals than i know straight men who hate musicals. i've had a drag queen stop me point blank when i was about to sing a barbra streisand song, and i know so many gays who pointedly hate abba. so based on my experience i think the inverse is true. most of the straight men i know are kind of impartial about musicals, but gay men? hate.

my theory is that a lot of gay men don't want to fall into stereotypes, maybe. but thaaaaat's just a theory! a gay theory.

#sci speaks #i'm trying to understand the gays. they are a mystery to me. #i've seen a lot more toxic masculinity coming from gay men than i have from straight men. #i think it makes sense. they have less women in their lives. so they reckon with a lot more masculinity. more dick measuring. #also gay men have some of THE most unhealthy romantic relationships i've ever seen in my life. #this isn't a blanket statement on everyone but just from what i've seen. it's such a strange pattern i've observed. #lesbians? healthy. straights? usually healthy. gay men? universally a tire fire that makes me say “if you hate each other so much ??” #“why are you together??????????” #i have never met a cis gay mlm couple in real life that was healthy. every single one of them made my eyes widen in horror. #i want them to be healthy. please treat each other better. #the number of bitchy bitchy fights i've seen between mlm couples in public that make me so terrified #but i know mlm relationships in general are usually less... affectionate than wlw relationships. even and especially friendships. #just an observation. #i hate to say that there is a definite difference between amab vs afab experiences when it comes to relationship dynamics but. #of course there is. there is. as much as i want to say gender and sex do not matter. it really does. #it makes a difference. it does. #which is kind of why i'm glad i was born in the body i was. when people say “trans means you feel you were born in the wrong body” #im like.. i don't think that's true. i don't think that's true for me. #i wouldn't be me if i wasn't born the way i was. and i want to be me. but i'm a boy. i'm a boy but in the body that i have. #my body is still a boy's body. because i live in here. #sorry this went off on a tangent. #but yeah i know my brain would be different if i was amab. and i don't want all those other issues. #i think the only reason i'm so peaceful and serene is because i'm afab. and afabulous. #i see cis guys and im like.. yeah i don't want what you got. #once again! lucky to be me! i'm lucky. im lucky i have a vargooba. thank fuck for that! #couldve been so much worse off. could've been born with a dick and would be fighting for my life right now.

[gauntletqueen]

Opinion on guys?

#yuri #lesbian #i will say that my opinion is hating all men is a very bad concept enforced as a form of transphobia and generally just shitty #men and women aren't any different in our ability to do right or wrong and it's bad to think that way #don't hate on men #hate on society for raising men wrong #but as a sister post to the ''opinion on girls?'' post #my response is :|

[wis-art]

i thought lesbians would think I'm an imposter or something because i have a boyfriend and i dont exactly look like a girl most of the time, turns out they love me and support me and what i do and appreciate my art.

#i fell in love with a girl and then he transed and now i love my man #idk.......... #i just appreciate being welcomed #and included #even if i am a little out of the ordinary #idk i told my bf i think i might just be a lesbian and he was like #cool #and then it kinda just clicked in a way #i was like #kinda giddy #cause you know technically i guess i would count as bisexual because i do think men are attractive too #but it just really doesnt feel right #like if i talk about myself and i say i am a lesbian with a boyfriend i just go like WOAAHWH #nothing wrong with bisexual and i think it is very much under represented and i am a little guilty of that myself #but you know #i just feel so very much right #when i can call myself a lesbian #and i realized that and maybe that's why i kept drawing girls in love all the time #maybe it's just the yearning to say something i am but i was a little intimidated #i didnt want to dissappoint my boyfriend or anger anyone because i dont perfectly fit a label #i am a lot more comfortable now

[the-lark-ascending69]

> be a robin buckley fan

> be lesbian

> project on robin

> look up "internalized homophobia robin buckley" on tumblr because it's cathartic

> 3/4 of the posts are about st3ddie or just about steve

#saw one in which steve was like ''no robin you don't understand! i have never been loved! i don't know how that feels like!'' #i have several grips about that interpretation #going from the fact that's not true (dustin is clearly a big steve fan + robin herself cares about him deeply) #to the fact he probably wouldn't be introspective enough to voice his emotions this concisely not to mention he'd probably wouldn't take #a moment to realize he's never felt loved if that were the case. i mean. he could think that. when he's like 35 and more in touch with his #inner world. 19yo steve can't even get the hint that hitting on a girl who's already clearly taken (nancy) is wrong so like i don't expect #him to be that smart #but i can live with people having takes i don't agree with. my opinion doesn't have to be everyone else's opinion if you see steve that way #it fine #what bothered me was the fact he was saying this to a lesbian living in the 80s lmao #who tells him that 1) her whole life has been an error 2) she doesn't think he'd want to be close to her if he truly knew her and 3) #3) is paralyzed by fear of social suicide if she dares believe for even a second that the girl she likes may like her too #like i dont need people to do deep dives into robin lore and quote from memory lines from Surviving Hawkins abt robin feeling like she's #rotten inside. not supposed to have friends. feeling like something is wrong with her and that pushes people away etc etc #the fact that she's a lesbian should tell you enough abt who has the biggest chances of being loved 😭 #also bothered me that it showed up when looking up posts abt internalized homophobia because?? where's the internalized homophobia therw #unless it's gay steve feeling bad abt it in an AU (as if canon robin didn't go through it) #like look im not bothered to find steve-centric content in the robin tag cos people are gonna tag her in posts mentioning her. #she's his friend. #but there are barely any posts at all about robin's internalized homophobia. like i saw 2 or 3. compared to all the steve or steddie ones #where's the love for my babygirl 😭😭 #anti steddie #not really but y'know i don't wanna bother anyone #edit: the bit about there being like 3 posts on robin w internalized homophobia isn't exactly true. there are a few. but they still feel #drowned in st3ddie posts #like something isn't right here

[florallylly]

sorry queen but a cheater is a cheater is a cheater and that's not a label i easily let go of

#obviously extenuating circumstances #but i don't mean i was traumatized and repressing my feelings blah blah staying with the safe choice #so u were an asshole. #so u obviously don't care enough about the person ur dating to stop for a second and actually think about the consequences of ur actions #and the fact that she didn't even acknowledge what she did #and just happily ended up with her man and her ex APOLOGIZED? #pick up ur head king ur crown is falling #and yes this is a major reason why i refuse to even support ronance #like it's my personal opinion and i'm not stopping people from shipping who they like #but i also want to get my thoughts out there scream into the void or whatever #as a lesbian from a small town i'll tell u i would certainly not date a girl who cheated on my best friend #so don't pull that argument on me #it just feels evil to me #like can't steve have ONE thing like ONE person in his corner #why make him constantly apologize and have to give way when he's done like. nothing wrong #first of all he was reclaiming queer duh #and he was right to be pissed #i get that it's two attractive girls and one is canonically gay #but ur reaching

[sixohsixoheightfourtwo]

The Ultimate Sterek Supercut - on vimeo

#teen wolf #sterek Rights #the lore #this is alltheir scenes. yes it's only 1hr16 which appears to feed the 'it was all made up from nothing' side of the argument #BUT - u have to realise that the showrunner CHOSE to drastically reduce their interactions once he became aware of the sterek fandom #truly a fandom has never been turned on the way that tw fandom was. the backtracking . Incredible to remember #was it bc d o'b hit it big w the maze runner films. was it bc tyler p was mad people paid more attention to the ship than to him #the main character.... was it JD's feeling of spiralling loss of control #this was the first fandom i remember ppl CAMPAIGNING for the ship and saying it was literally going to happen. and - more than that - #saying this ship was BETTER than certain other ships. beCAUSE it was going to happen. and /or bc it COULD happen #and they were not totally wrong right? bc this show made such a big deal out of being gay friendly 'this is a world without homophobia' &c #And yet that was a shallow statement bc the show had such a twink-centric view of sexuality. I saw a gif where Tyler P talked about how #great the show had been for the LGBT community and - I remember plenty of Gs but no Ls Bs or Ts u know #hah ok i just googled . there was a one episode lesbian couple - one of them DIED and the other went on to hook up w stiles. yell. #representación. #Vimeo #vids #reference #sterek

[bamboozled-distress]

why is there so much hate on poppy 😭 god forbid a woman do anything

#poppy is literally my favourite character i might have an unhealthy crush on her #AND I GO ON TIKTOK AND WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE HER GUYS #‘she ruined the songs’ #‘branch deserves better’ #‘the her and viva subplot in trolls shouldve been erased’ #‘poppy never learns the lesson she’s just so annoying to branch’ #‘poppy gets on my nerves so bad hope she dies in the next movie’ #WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU GUYS #‘i pretend trolls world tour doesn’t exist bc it doesn’t go with the trollsverse at all it’s the worst trolls movie ever’ #WHY ARE YOU HATING ON THE LESBIAN TROLLS MOCIE #POPPYS CHARACTER DEVELOPMEMT IS SO COMPLEX SND SO INTRESTING SHES LOVABLE AND WITH HOW SHE WAS RAISED OBVIOUSLY SHE WOUKD HAVE A HARD TIME #COMPREHENDING THE ABILITY TO HELP IN OTHER WAYS!!!!! THE WAY THAT BEING QUEEN HAS BEEN HARD ON HER AND HER DEVEKOPEMT OF BEING A GOOD QUEEN #IS LITETALLY THE BEST THING EVER WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU #plus why would you want to get rid of the poppy lore #like king peppy gets more fucking terrible in each movie you can’t look me in the eye and say you weren’t excited to see how badly he could #fuck up now #he’s powering himself up every mocie to become the ultimate villain in the last trolls movie guys #trust me. im right #i love poppy so much why is everyone being so mean to her #that’s very lesbophobic actuallg #trolls #poppy #laz.exe

[kithj]

there’s a scene in hijab butch blues where the author (lamya) comes out to a queer friend’s family because his family is convinced that she’s secretly in love with him and that he’s “leading her on” and her friend also wants her to have the “authentic gay experience” (gag) of coming out to Parents, which lamya never plans to do with her parents. she ends up agreeing, comes out and tells them that she’s gay, and then later the friend tells her that his mother is now convinced that she’s actually “a bisexual” and is still in love with him. lamya laughs at first but later feels very distraught over the fact that she finally had the courage to say it out loud only to immediately be doubted. anyways as someone who is a Lesbian and only ever calls myself a Lesbian or gay i really related to this especially in recent years where even other members of the lgbt community take issue with the word lesbian and try to paint us as regressive and “not queer enough.” there really is something so painful about that doubt and even scorn that can come from others that are supposed to understand you and support you and be a part of your community.

when you’re a gay woman, lesbian or bi, there is this constant outside pressure: if you’re a lesbian, they want you to be bi - you’re confused, you haven’t met the right man yet, you just need to give men a chance and be open to the idea. but if you’re bi, then you’re just doing it for male attention, you’re promiscuous, it’s a phase and you’re just an obnoxious straight girl. the reality is that no matter what, they’re always funneling us into what makes them more comfortable (which is, of course, with men), and they really just wish we didn’t exist at all.

#it did strike me as interesting that this scene happens right after another scene #where lamya herself challenges a woman who calls herself a lesbian #and asks ‘why that word instead of queer’ #maybe this is self awareness on the authors part to put these scenes back to back. i dont know #to be clear the lesbian woman was absolutely in the wrong in context but it still didnt feel great #for lamya’s response to basically say well queer is a better word than lesbian… #the sad thing is that it doesnt matter what we call ourselves; queer lesbian bi pan gay #theyre still going to find a problem with us #we’re still going to be Dividing The Community #whether its your lack of attraction to men or the way u perform femininity (or subvert it) #how you carry yourself how you talk. the boundaries you set #always Wrong #anyways! i have to take a break from this book after that. lol

[oxydiane]

sirius: just because my hair is long doesn’t mean i’m gay

sirius: i’m gay because men are hot and it pisses off my parents

#can’t relate but sirius and i go way back we are those gay lesbian bffs #spare him he had to live in close proximity to both remus lupin and james potter #can you imagine his gay meltdowns? i can #headcanon that he was actually friends with lily but nobody knew about it because she found him crying in the common room one night #over internalised homophobia and sat there with him afraid to say something wrong but also afraid to leave him alone right? #just as a comforting presence and they quickly take to hanging out late at night talking about nothing and everything #harry potter #sirius black #james potter #remus lupin #lily evans #peter pettigrew #marauders #marauders era #headcanon #but… in the tags lol #wolfstar #prongsfoot #incorrect marauders #incorrect quotes #incorrect marauders era #incorrect harry potter #incorrect harry potter quotes #incorrect marauders quotes #lily and sirius besties agenda #trust ME

[lucienne-thee-librarian]

Me @ Netflix if they cut Foxglove and Hazel or A Game of You or yassify any of the girls

#sandman season 2 #a game of you #fucking bullshit man this comic say what you want in not saying there's nothing to criticize but christ #where else even today do you get queer women characters this un-polished and prettied up #to still be appealing looking to cishet men who are allowed to be messy and Problematic without #being punished by the narrative. And Wanda god she's a nerd she's a scene gal fashion wise she's everything #Barbie is desperately recovering any sense of identity at all and it's so compelling. I don't even trust netflix to do them justice #at this point but if the lesbians the fandom was least likely to find Palatable background extras aka the most human ones #are cut? If Wanda is yassified if Barbie is cut? Because we have to streamline everything and cut off everything that made #sandman unique to pull as many bucks as possible? Yes I AM going to take that #personally actually. It kinda does feel like a slap in the face. Queer women and women in general were the core fanbase of the comic for ye #but if they say fuck us when it's time to make $$?? Then fuck them right back. Bye #We don't need yet another time that if queer women aren't looking like models #they're not fit to be seen according to executives and audiences alike #also it goes without saying that if h0b g*dli*g gets one second more screen time than is necessary #I'm gonna chew my way thru Netflix hqs walls #Has he not taken over enough. The fandom is already insufferable about him #and I'm so fucken tired of it we DON'T need more #yes I know this is all fears and speculation. I WANT to be wrong. You don't know how happy I'll be if i have to eat my own words #But until then I'm so nervous

[rearranging-deck-chairs]

imagining an alternate eotd where when asked about her confusing gay crush under threat of daleks one neuron in yazs brain fired differently and instead of going with "i dont know what you mean" she said "yes". same but opposite energy of when the doctor asks if shes a bad date and yaz super boldly just says "no". same but opposite.

because like imagine youre dan. he probably already had a good guess about what the situation was but his assumption being wrong is not out of the realm of possibilities. the idea that they could have talked about is not out of the realm of possibilities! if youre dan! if you just got here. if you didnt see all of s12.

like just imagine that scene! yaz just baldfaced lying as a way to like, bounce the idea off of him plus double duty to affirm her own beliefs that like the doctor never would plus triple duty paralleling 11x4 for 13 to ensure dan is never gonna ask about this again.

and WE'D KNOW. WE'D FUCKING KNOW. it'd be such a doctor move.

"have you ever told her?" "told her what?" "how you feel about her" "...yes." "well what did she say?" "i think you can guess" yaz snaps because she thinks she can. she has guessed or assumed or sort of correctly inferred a while ago that like, nothing is going to happen here, theres no point in her saying anything because the doctor isnt interested. and dan is like "i find her kind of hard to judge actually" because he still wants to hear an actual answer from yaz but yaz just laughs and goes "tell me about it" and then shes saved by a dalek.

of course we still want dan forcing their hand but thats easy to arrange by instead of him going all battering ram with "she likes you" in the next scene he just has to mention it. and i dont really know how he'd mention it because im not really sure how this would look to him.

so particulars to be determined but he does mention it In Some Way and now theres the doctor in a situation yaz indirectly accidentally put her in where shes suddenly having a Lot to process and also shes gonna lie about :) shes gonna lie about it so hard :)

maybe dan's guess is that whatever the doctor said was less-than-definitive ie vague as fuck because hes known her for like a week and has already seen how good she is at explaining herself and also because of yazs bitter "tell me about it" so maybe what he says is like "you better not be stringing her along"

and the doctor, in her perfectly inscrutable grey area between true What The Fuck Are The Humans Talking About This Time and a carefully crafted mask of obliviousness, goes "string her along what"

"i just mean that you gotta make sure your intentions are clear because it's really not fair to keep her guessing, and hoping"

and the doctor says "i dont understand what youre saying dan" because she really doesnt <3

and dan can still say his canon line "i think that you do, but you pretend that you dont" and in this case hes wrong, but he still hits the mark, wrong calculation right answer because the doctor is still like Fuck.

because she does know, of course. she does know about yaz and shes knows about herself and she knows what shes avoiding. and she will still do the same thing in sea devils. and this weird little lie yaz told will probably never come out. the doctor and her talk, dan isnt there, never sees how New this all is. the doctor has no reason to find out what yaz said to dan.

but we know. we know!!! we get to see this whole comedy of errors play out and still somehow arrive at the same answer. we have to live with how clearly none of them correctly assume each other's understanding of the situation. it'd be frustrating as fuck and such a nice encapsulation of what thasmin has been since the beginning. these half-communications that bounce off each other kind of painfully like billiard balls.

they would never find out. sea devils and potd play out exactly as they did and nobody would ever know. except us. it's a portrait of their shared fatal flaw finally laid out for us in broad daylight at the exact moment they come together. and only we can see it.

#thasmin #rewrite notes #now that ive imagined it i like this more than canon fhkjghjkg #it adds something and takes nothing away #and also it doesnt give dan like. perfect insight #bc like. idk i just like it if their neuroses are like all so tangled up together that they cant really see it #but also theyre right? #like theyre not right but like. both 13 and yazs choices in their relationship make total sense!! #it's not like oh haha they cant talk to each other lesbian sheep syndrome it's #a fucking tragedy #the decisions theyve made the ways theyve responded to circumstances and each other make sense you can totally see the reasoning #you can see how they got here #like this accidental hole they dug #and it's BECAUSE of this shared flaw of Im Just Gonna Keep It All Right Here In My Chest And Then One Day I Die #anyway #not that dan just like. intuiting the situation and moving it along Necessarily implies all that #just that i like it more when he Cant actually intuit the entirety of whats going on here bc it's like 5 years of Complicated #in so many ways #so he still moves things along but his assumptions are wrong and he gets lied to by yaz just as hard! #you know! #bc yaz is the doctor and the doctor lies and hes his companion so. she lies to him

[cream-and-tea]

if anyone was wondering i am still writing judge and calliope oneshot its just been taking a long time bc i've hit the part of the story that makes me have to get up and pace around my room every few sentences at least

#it does need a title still even if im not going to share it if it doesn't have a title itll drive me insane #flip flopping between doing a one word title or using a song lyric lol. the struggles never end #anyways there are lesbians in my google docs inventing methods of communication only shrimp can perceive or understand #idk these two make me ACHE its such a case of right people wrong time. they want to love each other in the right way but theyre just! #not able to!! not now! not like this!!!!!!! #AUGH #god i need a judge and calliope tag