#Spiral Dynamics | Explore Tumblr Posts and Blogs

jarredlharris · 1 day

Text

Live-threading my thoughts while listening to the Thereafter podcast episode featuring Phil Drysdale

The following is a transcript of the live-thread I posted while listening to Thereafter podcast episode 102.

So the good folks over at @thereafterpodcast dropped a new episode earlier this week. I'm finally finding time to have a listen and post a few thoughts. Let's do this!

.@thepursuinglife: "It's getting a little Driscoll-y here." Worst weather possible. @thereafterpodcast

.@cortlandcoffey is talking about the Power Team, which I had never heard of. Apparently, there's a lot of shit in evangelical culture I was spared from. @thereafterpodcast

Since @cortlandcoffey and @thepursuinglife are talking about Driscoll's reaction at the men's conference over the sword swallower and the figthing it caused, I thought I'd share my comment from a post about the incident over at @friendly.atheist's blog. @thereafterpodcast

Since I mentioned it, here's a link tot he blog post by @friendly.atheist. @thereafterpodcast

.@thepursuinglife is suggesting the whole incident was a staged event to promote Driscoll's new book about the Jezebel spirit. I'm not sure whether to tease her about being a conspiracy theorist or admit she may be on to something. (Can I do both?) @thereafterpodcast

.@thepursuinglife is talking about the absolute hypocrisy of so-called "pro-lifers" making death threats. Yes, that's a thing. @thereafterpodcast

I'll also mention that I am among those who refuse to call people who oppose abortion as "pro-life." As far as I'm concerned calling them "anti-choice" or "pro forced birth" is more accurate. @thereafterpodcast

.@cortlandcoffey: "These people have never been 'pro-life' outside of the womb." Exactly. And they're not entirely "pro-life" inside the womb. When was the last time you saw a forced-birther advocate for universal healthcare for pregnant people? That'd be life-saving for more than one fetus. @thereafterpodcast

On to the interview with @phildrysdale! @thereafterpodcast

I will note that @phildrysdale doesn't seem to be all that active on Threads anymore. I'll still link to his Threads account in this thread for conveniences. But you might want to check him out someplace where he's more active recently. Such as Instagram @thereafterpodcast

.@phildrysdale says he "did Christianity hard." Insert juvenile boner joke here. (Consider who is posting this thread. What did you expect?) @thereafterpodcast

.@phildrysdale is talking about the difficulty of finding someone you can ask the difficult questions to safely and I feel that. @thereafterpodcast

@cortlandcoffey is asking @phildrysdale why it seems so common for people to leave one high control group to only end up in another one. Interestingly, he seems to be mostly focused on the tendency of some deconstruction spaces' tendencies to be high control at times, and I think that's an accurate thing to be concerned about. @thereafterpodcast

I think @phildrysdale's answer raises some good points. This is also where I'd add to it by going back to "The Authoritarians" by Bob Altemeyer and how he talks about that many authoritarian followers seek authorities as a way to feel safe. So it makes sense that people would often fall back into that habit and seek a new authority to provide a new sense of safety. @thereafterpodcast

Oh, @phildrysdale did get into the "safety through security/following an authority" aspect of things later in his answer! @thereafterpodcast

They're about to get into spiral dynamics. Hopefully they include a definition of what spiral dynamics are, because this is a totally new term for me. @thereafterpodcast

Okay, I love how @phildrysdale just worked a thinly veiled Trump joke into this discussion 23/10. @thereafterpodcast

So spiral dynamics is specifically focused on being a model for how we develop our values? Kinda cool. I definitely want to learn more. @thereafterpodcast

I think I'm starting to see the "spiral" part of spiral dynamics. Very interesting @thereafterpodcast

.@cortlandcoffey is asking @phildrysdale about his perspective on Christian apologists' recent treatment of deconstruction. This should be interesting. @thereafterpodcast

.@phildrysdale indictes that he was interviewed for the book "The Deconstruction of Christianity" in which he provided a lot of data, and none of it made it into the book. Incredibly revealing indeed. @thereafterpodcast

Total tangent: I'm considering watching the video of Greg Locke debating a pastor that believes the earth is flat. From what I've heard, it might be mildly interesting. But I'm not sure how I'll feel about actually thinking Greg Locke is the one in the right. (Well, from what I've heard, he was a total ass by the end of that video, so I'm using "in the right" very loosely here.) @thereafterpodcast

.@phildrysdale has perfectly described the difference between dialogue and most debates. @thereafterpodcast

Interesting. @thepursuinglife's reaction to people asking her what books she should read when deconstructing is essentially the same reaction whens someone asks me what books to read to get into Paganism and/or witchcraft. @thereafterpodcast

.@phildrysdale talks a lot about childhood development and uses examples from that for analogies. It's quite fascinating. @thereafterpodcast

.@phildrysdale is talking about how uncomfortable we can feel when remembering or being confronted with the things we used to believe and do. I can totally relate to that, especially when I consider how those things might have harmed others at the time. I wonder if I ever actively caused someone harm and if they've been able to heal from that since. @thereafterpodcast

I often think of the one young man who was in our youth group who later came out as gay. Was he struggling when I was leading the youth group. And I have to consider how I may have harmed him by what I didn't do. After all, I led that group for two years after I accepted that I was gay, but I never came out. How much comfort might he have found if I had put myself out there back then? @thereafterpodcast

Wow, I don't usually get this introspective and heavy during these live-threads. My apologies. @thereafterpodcast

I will note that my parents have kept in touch with that young man and his family. So I know he's happily partnered (I don't know whether they've formerly gotten married) and quite happy. So I take comfort in that.

In fact, I saw his parents (who I also knew) at my mother's memorial service. That was a pleasant moment, though we didn't get long to talk. @thereafterpodcast

I think that @cortlandcoffey is trying to get at the question of how to develop community with a wide diversity of views and experiences. @thereafterpodcast

.@phildrysdale is talking about the perception of many deconstructing people feeling like they're alone vs. the data. I think it's great to acknowledge that while feelings are always valid, but they're not always an accurate perception of reality. Learning to balance those two truths is important. @thereafterpodcast

Of course, it raises the question: If you're not alone, how do you find the others? @thereafterpodcast

.@phildrysdale just told about a guy who was deconstructing who wanted to meet other people and have them over to his house for a weekly worship session. My mind boggles. @thereafterpodcast

On the topic of finding communities, I'll also suggest that most of us need to find multiple communities in order to meet all our various needs. @thereafterpodcast

Another wonderful episode! @thereafterpodcast

#deconstruction podcasts #thereafter podcast #spotify #deconstruction #spiral dynamics #Spotify

0 notes

seedsofenlightenment · 9 months

Text

You might not know it these lazy, hazy, muggy days of midsummer, but things are getting pretty wildly out-of-hand in our republic. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. blew up the Democratic Party yesterday in the House Subcommittee on Weaponization of Government hearing, acting like a normal human while being set upon by a flock of harpies desperately screeching “Russia, Russia, Russia,” as if that means anything anymore. He branded them as worse than the McCarthyites of the 1950s, rebuked their insane scurrilities supporting censorship, and left them in a state of exhausted disgrace.

It happens that he is running for the nomination of that very party knocking itself out to destroy him. To win that prize he would have to put a thousand top Democrats through some grueling act of repentance and contrition — and then you’ve got to ask yourself: who would even want to win the support of such vile creatures as Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Jerrold Nadler, and Adam Schiff, let alone be associated with them in the same club?

Elsewhere around the scene this week, we have the ever more degenerate antics of the FBI on view as whistleblowers pour out of the woodwork disclosing the rot behind Director Chris Wray and his boss AG Merrick Garland. This Deep State Blob of turpitude has been growing and festering with so many overlapping cover-ups that they’ve run out of rugs to sweep their crimes under. The massive money-grubbing misdeeds of Hillary Clinton from Skolkovo and Uranium One beat a direct path through the Ukraine coup of 2014, to Russia-Gate, to the Biden Family’s global influence-peddling operation and every mendacious act in-between including the FISA falsehoods, the J-6 entrapment caper, hundreds of malicious and deceitful prosecutions, the Covid-19 fraud, the censorship and medical tyranny, and God-knows how many ensuing deaths from a poisonous vaccine… and now, a brain-dead government trifling with nuclear war.

1 note · View note

almondemotion · 1 year

Text

Multiverse & I (a bank holiday amble through time and space)

If this is too obscure, apologies. A little accident, it just happened. Let's take a break from time, just for a moment, let's take a break.

Ever thought, If only, I could have that time again? to re-run events, History? Ever considered, What might have been, had, I done or not? Life is not a dress-rehearsal or so we are told by Kundera, One chance to make best use the time available And then, Snap, It is over. Time is our most precious commodity, more valuable Than Mammon Than all the dollars stacked-up in the…

View On WordPress

#Back to the Future #Claudius van Wyk #Dean Koontz #George Bernard Shaw #Heathcote Williams #Jan Christian Smuts #L Kersh of London #Milan Kundera #Mokusatsu #Spiral Dynamics

0 notes

lastflowerofyourhouse · 7 months

Text

something i like about nona's family is that they're so like, almost a perfect little nuclear family, and then just. not.

like. pyrrha is "the person who works for her" but also the one who makes breakfast and does the dishes. she's a woman quite literally posessing the body of a cis man and really leaning into the look, honorarily trans in both directions, working construction and shaving in the mornings and braiding nona's hair before school.

and then there's camilla, her...nagging wife? troublemaking older child? roomate who she barely gets along with? the fact that palamedes shares this role is doubly weird. he's a man literally posessing the body of a cis woman, and they're both pyrrha's nagging wife/problem child/roomate. i don't personally believe that anything explicitly or overtly sexual was happening between her and either of them, but i completely understand where people who think that are coming from. and it's fucking weird (affetionate?).

even nona occupies a weird place in this dynamic. like. pyrrha is definitely a parent to her but camilla, who takes a much more active role in her daily life, is...idk. nona has a crush on her and wants to marry her and adopt dogs. camilla's feelings for nona are more parental or older-sisterly, in that she cares for her and wants to protect her, and if her feelings are more complicated than that, it's because of the obvious aspects of the situation which make her extremely sad and apprehensive of the future. her affection for nona seems relatively simple.

and then there's palamedes, who is in theory another parental figure (see: camilla's "i'll talk to your mother later" face, or pyrrha's "you're going to make someone a really irritating wife one day, sextus"), but in nona's view of things he seems like something more along the lines of an older sibling, or perhaps a cool uncle, which is funny because pyrrha arguably treats him more like a spouse than she does camilla.

it's all just so fucking weird and jumbled up on itself. pyrrha will kiss camilla on the head and say "i'll be home for dinner, dear," and then turn around and call both her and nona "daddy's own treasures" (don't get me started). she'll kiss palamedes and camilla both on the mouth and tell them she loves them. she'll tell them she didn't love them well, or even wholesomely, and she won't explain what she means by wholesome.

alecto calls her "mother and father." alecto tells her she should've given into her urges and eaten them.

palamedes and camilla are second cousins and queerplatonic and married and the same person and by the start of the book the lines between them are already dissolving.

nona is so so young and she's so so old and she's not so much younger than camilla and she's older than pyrrha can even comprehend and some days she needs help getting her shirt over her head.

and most importantly they all love each other. it's a weird and confused and unhealthy love. it's a love full of tension and annoyance and fear. it's a love that wants very badly to fit a category and can't. but it's love it's love it's love and even when it's over even when it has nowhere left to go it's not gone it can't be gone. it's over it's done you can't take loved away.

#i started out writing a very normal analysis of their dynamics and got increasingly emotional as it went on #but i kinda like the way it reads now so i'm not gonna edit for tone #enjoy watching me spiral in real time #nona the ninth #nona of new rho #the locked tomb #tlt #my post

2K notes · View notes

thebad-lydrawn-sanses · 2 months

Note

Is blue talking to fell?

Blue: YEAH. HE'S MY FRIEND. Blue: SOMETIMES DEALING WITH DREAM AND INK CAN BE TOO MUCH, SO I GO HANG OUT WITH HIM. Blue: (PLEASE DON'T TELL THEM I SAID THAT)

Phone contact: vermillion bitch (/paff) vb (texting): running late srry bb Blue (texting): BB?? LIKE BABY BLUE?? vb (texting): yeah Blue (texting): THAT BETTER NOT BE WHAT I AM IN YOUR PHONE CONTACTS vb (texting): i would never Blue (texting): PERISH

#swap sans #best friend dynamic #also tried to convey the 'was about to have an anxiety/panic attack but friend said something that interrupted the spiraling' on Swap's fac #get your hand away from your eye socket that ain't good for you man #I FORGOT PART OF THE BANDANA #it's fine it won't fit with the text #maybe it's behind his head or Swap partially unraveled it or something #queue

167 notes · View notes

charmac · 3 months

Text

Unspoken tension ahead of Charlie Work, a wound left open in Family Fight

The Production Order (the order in which the episodes are written) always seems of some value to me in Sunny, but 10 I find especially substantial. With half of the scripts of the season written by RCG, 4 are back-to-back (with their 5th one, Psycho Pete, being 2nd in order).

The run begins after The Gang Spies like U.S. Going off that into Charlie Work, as opposed to into that off Charlie Work, paints a very different narrative for the timeline.

We leave the reveal that Mac and Dennis are jerking off together into an episode that starts with high tension between Mac and Dennis. Dennis is frustrated that Mac isn't being direct, won't look him in the eyes, he's avoidant, timid. That's interesting, because Mac isn't usually any of those things, he's direct and abrupt and loud. Off 9, fully establishing Mac is gay, juxtaposing his closeted behaviour to Country Mac's openness, 10 focuses hard on the fact that Mac's confidence is continually battered as he refuses to step out of the closet. The Gang is tired of it, but Dennis is frustrated. His words maybe cut even deeper than the scratch, "Come to me like a man. Talk about being tough all the time, can't even look me in the eyes."

We leave CW and go into Family Fight, written right after, also by RCG. This episode has big focus on Dennis' obsession with public perception of himself, and the Gang. Though he can initially handle masking his demeanor, his tone of voice, what he can't mask are his words. He's smiling, he's 'joking', but there's deep truth in what he’s saying. He's frustrated, though his frustration in the moment is intended for Frank, Mac feels it directed at him. There's a fresh wound between them, because Mac fully understands what his feelings for Dennis are now, and that’s irreparably shifted their dynamic.

Misses the Boat is the last RCG-written episode of the season. From Charlie Work, where we’re kinda first faced with the fact that Mac is now overly-concerned with how Dennis perceives him, to Family Fight, where Dennis' masks slip completely and he has a public breakdown, they both veer hard to straighten themselves. Mac, very quite literally, goes straight, and Dennis resolves that he needs to cut ties to get back to being ‘cool’, he’s going to be a cool guy who has a cool car and hangs out with a babe and is cool.

But what we learn in Misses the Boat is that how they think the world views them, or should view them based on how they believe they present, isn’t who they are. They can’t actually function well in these situations. Dennis, untethered, somehow can’t control his rage as well as he can when he *is tethered* to the Gang. Mac, well, he isn’t straight, and he realises pretending to be into women is miserable.

Dennis gives him the offer: Do you want to go back? (To not addressing it, to a standstill.) And Mac quickly, excitedly takes it. Looping back to where they are in Charlie Work, back to where they settle for too long: Mac, absorbed in himself, clawing for approval from Dennis, and Dennis lashing out, tired of telling Mac what to do.

And I think this is why I love 10 more than anything, it finally addresses the issue the audience knows. With Charlie, Dee, and Frank, too. They’re going nowhere, spiraling in circles because they refuse to address the roots of their issues, and Misses the Boat makes them, themselves, fully aware of that fact. They’re miserable together, but they’re worse off alone. And they go into 11 and beyond knowing this, and all kind of resenting each other for it, until 14. Where they acknowledge it again, and decide they’re going to keep playing the game even though it’s set.

238 notes · View notes

imviotrash · 25 days

Text

I think Blue cult arc Elizanne would be funny because the contrast is SO MASSIVE.

#sometimes i remember that my dynamics are far removed from the cannon and putting them in the cannon is ridiculous #tmw you're spiraling after discovering your engagement was a lie and theres an idol group indirectly trying to save you #kuroshitsuji #black butler #kuroshitsuji fanart #joanne harcourt #vio draws #elizanne #elisabeth midford #elizabeth midford #lizzy midford

98 notes · View notes

souporsaladnatural · 6 months

Text

Will never understand people who in terms of destiel characterize cas as the "normal" and "well-adjusted" one. Like what show did u guys watch

#that gay angel is also an insane gay war criminal who makes poor decisions for sport and dont u forget it #dean isnt the normal one either btw theyre j both freaks #they both r insane and hav So many issues and thats what makes their dynamic and story so fun!!#spn #destiel #castiel #supernatural #cat spirals tag

163 notes · View notes

dittolicous · 1 month

Text

"anti-zosans just dont get it! the appeal IS that they hate each other!"

me, a zosan shipper:

98 notes · View notes

greywoe · 10 months

Text

nooo theon don't listen to the stinky man

bonus:

#asoiaf #asoiaf fanart #theon greyjoy #ramsay snow #ramsay bolton #whichever people use #my drawings #their dynamic in acok is so interesting (more than that in adwd imo)#bc of the impending doom of it all. ramsay playing the long game...#he gives theon bad vibes but still ends up fooling him #bc theon is in that desperate of a situation he barely has a choice #also to him he's just some smelly servant what could he even do #honestly i just love theon's acok chapters so much. his downward spiral. going from doomed to even more doomed #i have another drawing of this terrible duo i might post it later lol #don't want to inflict too much of this on anyone #acok

314 notes · View notes

gooboogy · 7 months

Text

The problem is they both make sense.

John lacks any agency, and as his abilities start "failing" he loses more of what little he has. The only things he can do is perceive the world through Arthur's eyes and talk to him in his head. That's it. He has no material effect on the world around them. He is solely 100% reliant on Arthur for his continued existence and influence on the world. He can't ignore Arthur whatsoever (unlike Arthur who can ignore John easy peasy) he can't Do anything but talk and observe (and also experience the deaths of people Arthur touches but ultimately that does nothing). Of course he is going to be distrustful of other people and possessive over Arthur.

Arthur feels like suddenly he can't rely on this very reliable thing that has been keeping him alive this whole time. It would shake anyone up. Especially with the shit they have to deal with? If he can't rely on directions he will be sliced to ribbons or shot without a chance of fighting back. They may as well be dead already. And for all of John's lack of agency, it's Arthur who has to actually deal with the consequences. He's the one who's getting wounded and torn to bits and has to fight all that. Plus it's HIS body. If someone's existence relies on your body, you have the right to refuse, bodily autonomy is a human right.

The problem is they've gone through this cycle before (cycle of learning and forgetting and learning that they are One Unit and need to work Together vs The Problems and forgetting) but never has it shaken Arthur so much. Even when they've argued before he would still listen to John's directions. But now? Everything is in question (as is probably the intent behind John's "failing" abilities.) They DO need other people to help and they DO need to be careful and include John. They cannot truly trust someone else while keeping John a secret or without his input. Arthur has the most control over the situation and the onus is on him to make the compromises. Yeah it's his body but 1) countless times he promised to John that they were in this together and 2) at this point separating them would be so traumatic that they may as well be One.

All of this is to say, curious that Arthur is so willing to tell Oscar about literally everything EXCEPT John. What happens if he does? What if there's someone else to assert for John in a way Arthur can't ignore so easily? Would that legitimize the shared ownership of Arthur's body? What does it mean for John to gain agency by the loss of Arthur's autonomy?

#im being Bold today and not saving this in the draft #pls be nicey if you disagree #i have a lot of confusing thoughts and feelings about what bodily autonomy means when youve got a guy living in your head #that is somehow separate from yourself #malevolent #malevolent spoilers #goobabble #also to be clear I think Arthur is being complete major dickhead #i understand why he feels the way he does #or at least how i think hes feeling #and i think john would stab him if he could #slap him upside the head for being a dummy #i wouldnt blame him lol #i cant include all the intricacies of their dynamic so theres def things that may be missing here but you get it #also yeah i watched the fionna and cake finale lol #to be completely honest i dont think these guys even know what Trust is #they are all men of faith #posting before i can overthink myself into a spiral about this

183 notes · View notes

almondemotion · 1 year

Text

Canine Consciousness, the plants know more than we think, our individuality, and an argument with the wind.

Sensory overload. Have you read Perfume (Patrick Susskind)? Stella and I have it out at the seaside.

I couldn’t sleep last night. A too late, too salty curry woke me at 2am I couldn’t find my Kindle, (Myron Bolitar, Book 7). And, Instead read the Guardian. An interview with Stefano Mancuso the Florentine professor researching plant consciousness, or, more precisely, as he calls it, the neurobiology of plants. How they sense and interacf with the world. Yesterday I travelled with the…

View On WordPress

#Blake #botany #Bridlington #consciousness #Fraisthorpe #recall #Schopenhauer #Spiral Dynamics #Sprointer #Stefano Mancuso #Stella

1 note · View note

karofsky · 7 months

Text

We really do not talk about the fact that Laszlo not only repeatedly offers the idea of Nandor turning Guillermo, but also is actively advocating for Guillermo to be a vampire? He doesn't want to cure vampirism so Guillermo could go back to being a human-- he wants to do it so Guillermo could instead be turned the right way, and ultimately get the two things he wants most out of it (vampirism and a life with Nandor). This man cares cares and it makes my heart ache.

#i'm soooo interested in seeing how the laszermo dynamic is next season #laszlo is... heartbreaking. he keeps failing people and I'm wondering if they'll touch more on that #and i'm haunted by whatever it is that he wanted to confess to guillermo (i'm assuming a longing to be human??)#next season is gonna hurt lol. watching guillermo and laszlo spiral together. oof #wwdits

136 notes · View notes

swinging-stars-from-satellites · 1 year

Text

so here's the thing. Cass's favorite brother is probably Tim. he's her little guy, her sweet cheese, her good time boy. they're both very similar to Bruce in a lot of ways, but more than that, they find it easy to be around each other. Tim is more quiet than the others, which Cass appreciates, but he's also fascinating to watch because there's constantly a thousand things going on beneath the surface of him. Cass and Tim are masters of parallel play, but only and primarily with each other. Tim is quiet when Cass wants to be quiet or talks when she needs to talk, and if she doesn't have the words for something he never so much as bats an eye (even Dick bluescreens sometimes trying to figure her words out), he just helps her find the right ones. Tim can read her almost as well as she can read him, just slower and not trained into him, it's just how he is. he looks at her and tries to figure out how she works, the way he does with everyone, a way most people don't. it makes her feel seen the same way she sees, and that's valuable to her.

another thing is that Tim is also, in all honesty, Jason's favorite brother. like it's almost counterintuitive considering how they first really met, but hey — brothers forged in blood, right? there's some wild poetry to it and they Get each other on a level the others don't really bc they're the middle children, 2nd and 3rd and always afraid of being rejected. but they've got each other. Tim is Jay's favorite because he's so incredibly forgiving (to be welcomed back to the family by the kid he nearly killed? the kid he hated? INSANE.) and because he doesn't judge. (Jay is Tim's favorite bc he's chill when Dick or B can be smothering sometimes. Jason isn't the one who lost a brother and a son, he's the one who was lost, so he's not quite so afraid of losing. yes, he's protective, but not overwhelmingly so.) they have an instinctive kind of brotherhood where they balance each other out, tempering each other's worse tendencies and bolstering the better ones without having to talk about it.

the third thing: Cass really does not like Jason. she has the no-kill rule in her heart even before she had words to explain it, and it's different than with Bruce because she's lived it. she's lived the reason why they have that rule. and Jason has too, but come out on the other side, what Cass considers the wrong side of a worldview completely different than her own. Jason kills, he breaks the law written in her soul and in their adoptive father's, and no one stops him. she can't comprehend it, and she will never accept it. she rarely uses his name, rarely interacts with him at all if she can help it because much as she wants to start a fight, it would hurt Bruce if she did and she doesn't want that. she just calls him Hood, most of the time. if they absolutely have to work together, she does what needs done and leaves.

so. Cass hates Jason. and Jason hates being hated. as far as the principle goes, he can get why Cass doesn't like him, but she's loath to even be around him and that bothers him. she's just this side of being actively hostile, meanwhile Jason is honestly trying his best not to tick her off but it's really hard when he gets glared at by possibly the most intimidating Bat every time he's at home. the same way there's a difference between Bruce and Batman (they put away masks at home, or at least they try to), there's a difference between Jason and the Red Hood. but Cass, determined, rock-solid Cass, refuses to accept that. it's not a good situation, especially when Tim gets in the middle of it, because both Cass and Jason love Tim but hate each other and Tim is just tired and wants his siblings to get along and see, this is why he prefers one on one time to family gatherings.

because at some point something happens and Tim gets hurt, maybe captured or outnumbered (as capable as he is, even a great strategist and skilled fighter can be overwhelmed at times) while out on patrol, and Oracle, sitting in front of her computer array, sighs and rubs her temples and opens up a communications channel to the only two Bats available to assist — Red Hood and Black Bat. she tells them what's up, gives them Red Robin's location, and then dips back out of the channel because she is not going to spend the rest of the night listening to palpable silence from Cass and increasingly frustrated questioning from Jason. she's not paid enough for that.

so Cass and Jason HAVE to work together. HAVE to team up to save their mutual favorite sibling (who, for what it's worth, has no clue he's ANYONE'S favorite). and neither of them is pleased with this turn of events, on multiple counts — 1, Tim is hurt. 2, Cass hates/at least strongly dislikes Jason. 3, Jason has tried everything to make peace with her and is honestly feeling a little bit desperate about it at this point because he has tried EVERYTHING, so now he's just right back at aggression. it's a situation that really can't have a good outcome for everyone, because Cass and Jason's mutual dislike for each other is at odds with their mutual love for Tim and both of them arrive at the same conclusion: all they can do is work for the best outcome for their little brother.

Tim, who has only been lightly stabbed and could have probably gotten by with just one person for backup instead of two, let alone THESE two, is both exasperated by the turn of events, and just plain glad that someone came for him. he's bleeding and hurting and watching from the alley floor as Cass stares (glares) at Jason, who's trying to figure out how to get a shot in that will give Tim a way out without, yknow, shooting his brother in the process.

and then Cass just swoops down and between her insane skills and the intimidation factor of a bat with a full-face mask the entire situation is diffused before Jason has a chance to shoot anybody, which is a better outcome than Tim expected. Jason grapples down as Cass is finishing up with the last few bad guys and she turns around and starts glaring through the mask again. the problem is, she loves Tim. he's her favorite brother, the one most like her and most like their father. but Jason loves Tim too, and Cass can see it as soon as she looks, really looks to see it. and it's so, so obvious when she sees Jason's bloodstained, scarred hands carefully bandaging Tim's (slight) stab wound and the fact that Jay pulled off his helmet as soon as it was safe to and is talking and grinning and keeping a steady eye on Tim because everyone knows that Tim plays down his injuries often and you have to watch him, because he's smart enough to hide things unless you really know him. and Jason knows him. and Cass can see that. and as much as she doesn't like Jason, as much as she's possessive of Tim, she softens for just a minute.

not that she'd ever tell anyone, and Tim was too distracted and half-foggy from blood loss to see it in her at the moment. Cass still doesn't like Jay. Jay is still utterly frustrated by the fact that she won't give him a chance. Tim is still annoyed by all of this and complains to Babs about it (bc Steph just laughs and says all three of them need to suck it up and move on, which is TRUE, but unhelpful) any chance he gets.

it isn't until an Arkham breakout, not the worst they've seen but obviously not good news, when Jason gets badly hurt and Tim (who was with him at the time) gets Really Scary, like full-on not moving a muscle, staring down the man who did it with such intensity that it feels like he could kill with only his masked eyes, sharp and suddenly absolutely terrifying to anyone who doesn't know him, that something really clicks for Cass. because she slips in as Tim coldly, calculatingly shatters the guy's kneecaps just as thoroughly as Jason's bullets would have done and then his rigid intensity falls away and he's a kid terrified that his brother is hurt.

Cass sees the way Jason is with Tim and she can't quite reconcile that caring with all his killing but she knows, because she can SEE it, that Jay cares about Tim much the same way she does. and then she sees how Tim acts when Jason is hurt, the scary sharp side of her little brother that only comes out when he's very, very afraid and very, very determined, and she sees the way he loves his older brother and... she can't deny that either.

and maybe Cass will never LIKE Jason, maybe there will always be some tension between them, but. she doesn't call him only "Hood" all the time, anymore, and Jason is capable of recognizing that tiny detail as her version of a peace offering. Tim is just glad they're not yelling at each other (or Cass's silent staring version of yelling) all the time. maybe it's a whole mess, but hey, they're working on it. as long as there's love, somewhere, there's something. (there's family)

#this was originally a meta post but it spiralled. like. a lot spiralled.#i just think they should have a contentious little thing going on. sibling rivalry but they don't consider themselves siblings #like it's funny but also fascinating. they're narrative foils!! they're their fathers precious children! they have #directly opposing worldviews and mindsets!!!#this could be so deep but also. SO comedic #i need to write the stupid little batfam road trip fic in my head bc the ensemble dynamics are SO FUN #Lu rambles #meta finding tag #batfam #cass cain #jason todd #tim drake #i didn't proofread this if it has typos I'll find it once it's too late and it's already been reblogged. as usual 😂

539 notes · View notes

bidaryl · 11 months

Photo

admit it. you only came back to atlanta for the hat. don’t tell anybody.

#glenn literally risking his LIFE for the stupid hat. turning back for the HAT #then rick doing the same fucking thing. like. i love them so much #wanna cry over #glenn x rick #like i don't talk about them enough or honestly spiral over them enough but rick and glenns dynamic over the show? i miss it SO bad #twdedit #m #gifs #1.04 #wait also the way the hat also gets passed down to carl then judith like............. i dont even know what im feeling but its feelin STRONG #also beth that one time...................................... something bout the kids of the future somthing about passing things down #somehting bout how even when you're not there anymore.... you're still there #stupid hat. got me emo

197 notes · View notes

yokoyas · 1 year

Text

power coming to love two humans despite originally believing they all deserve to die and aki coming to love two devils despite originally hating them and thinking it was impossible for him to care about one and denji who toes the line between the two coming to love aki and power like siblings despite his history of being abused by men and seeking validation through sexual/romantic relationships with women. and denji turning down a vacation to take care of power and aki trying to keep them from having to fight the gun devil and them going with aki to visit his family’s grave and lightening the mood for him and trying to cook him dinner and power asking denji to find her even though she won’t know him and to love her until she’s her again anyway i hate this manga for making me sob hysterically multiple times.

#sorry god i was thinking about how sweet it is that denji’s trying to make all that money so nayuta can go to college #and every time i think about part 2 denji i spiral like he’s been through so much he’s lost so much but he’s still got such a good heart #and he’s so nice to asa even after she was so weird and mean to him why do i care so much about this stinky chainsaw boy #god i love asa she’s so fucked up and weird but she’s trying so hard!!#also yoshida just showing up out of nowhere with no excuse like girl why are you just at the aquarium in ur school uniform #i hope he keeps being weird but never does anything significant. i don’t trust that kid but it’d be so funny if he’s just there for funsies #but also the dynamic of denji asa and yoshida being a wildly unsuccessful love triangle is funny to me #like i don’t think that’s actually what’s happening but it’s funnier than shipping any configuration of the three #like none of them are actually into each other but they just keep striking out and getting mad about it #beth watches csm #csm spoilers #i love to make a post about chainsaw man and then the tags are completely unrelated but still about chainsaw man

298 notes · View notes