#anti fanon tim drake

[rubydubydoo122]

Every time I see a Reverse Robin's Au and see a 'Tim Drake is the Red Hood' or something adjacent to that, a part of me dies, because Tim would not have a reason to be the Red Hood like Jason did-- he has zero connection to crime alley, and his morals and motivations are different from Jason's. Tim would not kill.

"But Red Robin--" blowing multiple people up from a distance is different from pulling the trigger of a sniper or pistol or being up close and personal and stabbing them with a sword or knife and the chopping off their heads.

and yeah there are alternate versions of him who are gun-batmans, but they were meant to show how main contenuity Tim couldn't let himself fall down that path. Tim would rather kill himself that let himself become a Brutal Batman

also, Tim probably has stronger morals that Batman. He became Robin because he could see Bruce inching closer and closer towards that line. He became Robin to stop Bruce from going to a place where he couldn't return.

if Tim died, and then came back to life, only to find out he's been replaced, I think he would just find his own city and become a hero there without telling Bruce he's alive.

God, I'm not even a Tim fan, but making Tim Red Hood is just such a disservice to his character.

#tim drake #dc comics #batfam #batman #red hood #jason todd #anti tim drake #kinda #anti fanon tim drake #anti reverse robins too #like I like the idea of reverse robins #but everyone always does it wrong #ughhhh

[discowingneckline]

“tim drake is rightfully annoyed and mean to damian because damian tried to kill him several times”

tim can be upset about it and not want to be nice or near him, yes, but have you considered tim ALSO wouldn’t want to be around jason?? noo because you changed tim’s favorite robin to being jason to fit your little world, and they got along in newer comics and stuff. well homie, have you actually LOOKED at the comics where damian and jason try killing tim?? because i’m telling you right now, jason’s attack was FAR MORE SEVERE than damian’s. and personally, if i were a vigilante, and i were almost murdered by these two, i’d be more wary of jason, who beat the living shit out of me, over damian.

like honest to gods, it’s like can you please read comics just a bit or look at some panels or something??? 😭😭 PLEASE

#op #dc #dc comics #batman #jason todd #tim drake #tim drake fanon anti #jason todd fanon anti #damian wayne

[gonnalosemydougdimmadomedamnmind]

It's literally impossible to read bat fanfiction because it's all based off those ridiculous fanon tropes that spread like crazy and people take as fucking biblical!!!!! Dick was never a jerk to Jason when he was Robin- they got along because Dick is mature as hell and in one retelling- Jason was a jerk to him!! And when he came back as Red Hood he had literally not a single damn reason to treat Dick like shit! Not a damn one! But he did, didn't he? Cause he's the fucking asshole! How dare you make Dick grovel towards that bastard! Dick has only ever tried to help him! Reached out during his Batman run, over and over! Also- Dick never put Jason in Arkham with Joker just a few cells down???? What the fuck! The Joker and all those other fuckers had been broken out of Arkham by Black Mask already for like the whole run??? Jason went to Arkham after losing to Dick, and Gordon put him in there because One he fucking deserved it, Two the literal circumstances?? And at that point!! Arkham was fucking rehabilitated itself!! By Dick!!! Because Bruce had him go undercover there for real, and Dick was actually tortured there before he got out!! So Dick put in the work to get that shit in order to actually help people!!

Dick never chose Damian over Tim- Tim refused to engage with him over his grief, shut him out, and left of his own devices! He never told Dick his suspicions on why Bruce was alive, never! And Tim is not the one to bring Bruce back either, there's a whole team at that point! Dick learns Bruce is alive through tossing his 'dead' body into a pit and the body comes to life as a zombie. Tim didn't tell him shit! Tim is also not a little crybaby- Damian cutting his line was a fucking blip on the page, he was momentarily shocked, that was it! He put Damian on his Hit List, which is why Damian cut his line. And his first attempt at "murder" is just pushing Tim off the dinosaur statue in the cave, he didn't go all assassin on him! Also Dick wasn't even there the first incident and wasn't told about the second incident. Alfred is the one who gave Damian Robin and Dick accepted him because he saw that Damian needed help! He needed guidance! He didn't fucking fire Tim the way Bruce fired him, and fuck all of you for thinking that Tim or Jason or fucking anyone has more right over Robin than Dick Fucking Grayson! He tried to promote Tim and Tim walked off. How dare yall make Dick fucking grovel towards that bastard!!!

Jason did try to kill all three of them!! Why does everyone just gloss over that like what the fuck??? Why does he get a pass for every shitty thing he's done??? "Bad writing" stfu this is the same dude that without hesitation kills random criminals, people who deal drugs, do you know how many random ass people deal drugs??? Jason doesn't give a single shit about being his own type of hero or saving Gotham his own way, nor do the people think of him as their savior!! Are you people fucking delusional?? I saw a post that said citizens would trust Jason over CASS and I cannot Believe the hallucinations yall are seeing???

It is literally downright impossible to find fics about Dick or Damian or Cass or fucking any of them that doesn't include these literal bullshit fanon takes!!! It's impossible!!! This fandom sucks!!!! You don't even need to go buy the comics, all these popular takes have been debunked right here on tumblr!!!! Also Dick can do literally everything!! He's hypercompetent as hell, die mad about it!! Jason doesn't like Wonder Woman???? Where the fuck did that come from??? Wayne Family Adventures is not real!!! Those people could not BE more out of character!!! Look at Bruce for crying out loud!!! Yall know that man ain't act like that!

Edit: leaving this here in case anyone wonders what my hot take is towards this question I was asked: "have you considered tho, that fanon is more fun..."

Well of course fanon is more fun if you're a fan of Jason or Tim. Fanon actively caters towards those two pasty white boys. Fanon actively shits on Dick and Damian though. And for Dick? He literally never did that shit! It is all made up! It's literal character assassination?? But by the fans?? And for Damian? He was 10!!! He grew up as an assassin! He was actively trying to grow with Dick's help! How can yall see him as the bad guy?? And not the literal bad guy, (Jason), and the 17 teen year old who literally fought him back btw, (Tim), like old boy did not act victimized the way you people portray. And Jesus for Cass? Cass is just a prop in fanon. So what exactly about this should be fun to me? Like seriously.

#dc comics #batman #batfamily #dick grayson #jason todd #tim drake #damian wayne #cassandra cain #anti jason todd #anti tim drake #anti batfamily fans #fanon bullshit #bat fans suck #i hate this place!!! #cant read anything!!! #bruce wayne #my posts

[thecruellestmonth]

Batfam™ posts are like

What are the BATFAM™'s favorite drinks?

Dick: sparkling hibiscus nectar infused with pistachio honey (bubbly and sweet just like him 💙) served in a World's Best Big Brother mug that was chipped in a hilarious incident when all three of his beloved siblings got into a wacky swordfight and sunshine big bro Dick had to make peace between them because he's a loving mother hen

Jason: vodka mixed with Earl Grey tea—in Crime Alley, street rats only ever drink alcohol because they're uneducated and miserable, but Jason also drinks tea because he's now elevated above his lowly origins (how quaint! He's Not Like The Other Poors) and to symbolize how much he LOVES his rich family

Tim: COFFEE!! brewed from a special blend of extra caffeinated Arabica beans, mixed with hazelnut non-dairy creamer (lactose hurts him just like everything and everyone in his life 😔) and one sugar cube for every hug he's ever gotten from his parents in his entire life (none) and also his tears

Damian: lemonade colored pink with Tim's blood (now Tim is dying of blood loss and it's all evil Damian's fault! how dare Damian be so cruel to Tim in this terrible scenario that I made up in my own head)

Babs:

Cass: water

Steph: water (with a bendy straw lol she's such a character)

Duke: water

#Batkids #Stephanie Brown #Cassandra Cain #Damian Wayne #Duke Thomas #Barbara Gordon #fanon vs canon #anti Batfamily #anti Batfam #Tim Drake #Dick Grayson #Jason Todd #anti Batboys #fandom discourse cw #negativity cw #Like sometimes I wonder why include characters that you are just completely disinterested in. #This blog here is like mostly Jason Todd lol. Not saying that I don't have my own faves and biases. #Even though I don't always personally enjoy WFA--I gotta give it props for not making the Batfamily revolve around the Four Batboys. #I just dislike the forced made-up 'Batboys quartet'. Dick is the only one with a bond with the other three. #Cass and Duke really bonded when they were with the Outsiders. #Jason has a fun dynamic with Duke. #Babs is the best parental figure in Cass' life. Steph is the best menace ever to Bruce and she can read him to filth. #Whatever these are my tags and I'll rant if I want to.

[mysterycitrus]

Bc I love your thoughts on fandom, how do you feel about fanon thinking that Tim Drake is the CEO of Wayne Enterprises. I personally despise it bc it does so much damage to so many characters imo, but I’m curious about your thoughts on it

short answer - it's dumb. because u mention fanon specifically, i think it's worth saying that the ceo thing is primarily used to demonise dick and damian in order to woobify tim. "woe is me, everyone abandoned me and now i have to pick up the slack," etc. there is no actual care about what the characters would think or feel in this situation.

in rr2009 (beloathed), tim was briefly ceo because it was a tactical decision - he was preventing tommy elliot from gaining access to bruce's fortune. lucius fox remained the actual ceo, and tim always deferred to lucius's experience. that's what annoys me so much about this interpretation of tim - it removes his autonomy and intelligence. tim drake is not a woe is me kinda guy. he has very realistic expectations of his own intelligence and capability, as a result of training with prodigies at the top of their field, like cass and dick and bruce. he does things for a reason. he isn't lying on a chaise lounge, despondent that his family has left him to hold the ship together. quite the opposite, because dick takes over as batman to keep gotham safe and tim has the freedom to do what he likes as a result. keeping him in this role is a disservice to his character.

i also think that tim isn't the sort of person who's interested in that kind of public facing role. ideally, imo, after bruce returns from the time stream dick would get him out of new jersey for a little bit so he can get some seperation from bruce. additionally, the ceo thing props up the idea that smart rich tim is the best possible choice to lead this company, unlike anyone else who isn't as clever as him (dick and damian). i don't think it's difficult to see a trend there.

#tim drake #dick grayson #damian wayne #anti fanon #red robin #dc comics #batfam #the ask and the answer

[mikakuna]

every time i read a jason fic and it has someone saying he tried to kill tim, i have to take a deep breath

#it's like. all jason fics actually #can we relax #i try not to talk about this dude because his entire fanon character has just started pissing me off #but wow #jason todd #red hood #anti tim drake

[telffiin]

"damian feels guilty and sad for what he put poor little timmy through :(" shut up for one million years.

first of all that shit was NOT one sided... are you kidding me... they both contributed. it was a team effort of idk jealousy and antagonism or whatever.

tim isn't like some helpless victim that damian abuses. which... ugh. what is it with this whole thing that shows up in fanfic all the time where tim is ostracized by his family who are always on damian's side and dick makes excuses for him and URRGGHHH whatever whatever WHATEVER.

#i'm rehashing some stuff from earlier posts but yeaah #i wish i could stop talking about tim but alas. his fans are annoying and i love complaining about inane things #dc #batman #damian wayne #anti fanon #anti tim drake #fandom critical #fanon critical #fanon vs canon

[punkeropercyjackson]

A J*ytim shipper liked my post comparing myself and my brother to Jason and Tim

#like are you new to other human beings???paralleling your irl sibling relathionship to a fictional one is saying you're anti shipping them #i thought that went without saying?unless they think i meant me and my brother would be okay doing in///cest with eachother #in which case *loads rifle with malicious intent*(/meme ref) #antijaytim #anti batcest #jason and tim #me and willy #jason todd #tim drake #black jason todd #latino jason todd #afrolatino jason supremacy #adhd tim drake #< since my little brother has undiagnosed adhd + i also hc tim as autistic and trans and half cherokee #just reusing the tags from that post since it's a sequel to it.also i just remembered it was about how fanon tim is gross as shit💀 #my nigga in christ it was about you.they were a sl*de stan too so that tracks #batfam #rhato #dead sidekicks force #the anomalies #young justice #team dual #summerposting

[trickostars]

the batfandom on tumblr is weird because unlike every other social media site I feel completely safe to say batman is queer and has always had some level of queer coding without any worry but I never plan on detailing how I think jason todd stans are the center of every terrible fanon interpretations we're seeing now because I would fear for my life.

#batman #the batfam #fanon #bruce wayne #dick grayson #alfred pennyworth #tim drake #stephanie brown #damian wayne #cassandra cain #anti jason todd

[fenrir-wolf-of-gotham]

Shoutout to Tim Drake. I’m gonna kick you in the nuts one day.

#anti tim drake #I hate him #not as much as Slade Wilson but yeah #hate how he’s portrayed as this quirky god by both canon and fanon

[elioherondale]

tim drake (13 years old) MANIPULATED ‼️‼️‼️ bruce wayne (rich old hag) into ADOPTING him ⁉️‼️ he BLACKMAILED him, he KILLED jason, he STOLE the robin mantle, he MANSPLAINED his way into the family ‼️‼️

#dc #batfam #fanon #bruce wayne #batman #anti time drake #pro tim drake #anti jason todd #pro jason todd #jason todd #red hood #tim drake #pro damian wayne #connor hawke #cissie king jones #this is how y'all fucking act; stop restricting yourself to Batfam and read some real variety (that's even if you DO read comics)

[rubydubydoo122]

i’m not a tim drake fan, but u make him very likable. thank you for not making him the unbearable quirky cool tumblerina uwu LITERALLY EVERYTHING AT ONCE self insert that other people manage to do.

Thanks! I just hate annoying characters. and uwu tim drake is cringe. I'm not really a tim fan either,

the secret to writing Tim Drake is not writing too much of him. I think.

Here's my formula:

f-boy + comp-sci + lowkey misogynistic + ?rizz? (I'm confused where this comes from, but out of all the batboys he somehow has the most pull) + Snark (NOT sass. there's a difference) + Fruit + less than 20% of him in a story = Tim Drake

not to be mistaken for the sad boi in most Titans Tower AUs

btw anon, which fic of mine did you read? was it the Ghosts that Live Outside the Grave?

#tim drake #dc comics #batfam #red robin #yummmm #just a friendly reminder that Tim Drake had friends and wasn't a loner like fanon makes him out to be #they just all died during RR #but then they came back #so he's kinda ok now #he's just grown up #and I feel like he'd totally join a frat if he went to college #slightly anti-tim drake #but not really because I do write him #I just don't like reading him

[discowingneckline]

i love the batfamily, but nothing gets me more upset than when tim drake or jason todd fanon folks start up with some zesty racism (yes, this is me complaining how much they blame dick and damian for things that either 1) aren't in canon, 2) are in canon but change how characters react to them, and 3) regardless of if they are or aren't canon, decide that all their favs horrible actions are excusable because they are little babies but dick and damian's (especially damian's) aren't understandable, are exceptionally horrible, and/or unforgivable. like what a womp womp on your part.

#op #dc #dc comics #dick grayson #nightwing #batman #damian wayne #i'm a #tim drake fanon anti #jason todd fanon anti #honestly most character's fanon anti

[gonnalosemydougdimmadomedamnmind]

I deserve financial compensation every time I have to read a post that posits that Jason is actually the good big brother that's there for his siblings and Dick is the big mean golden child that can do whatever he wants and turns his siblings away when they need help. I'd have like a gajillion dollars now.

This bothers me so much specifically because it's the exact opposite of canon, in Dick's case anyway. Ain't nobody going to Jason for help in the first place. I really can't get past the backwards logic of it all. No, the utter lack of logic. Like it's the Exact Opposite.... The Exact Opposite!!! How did you come to this conclusion???

Well, I mean, I know- you don't read the comics AND you take everything at face value. I get it, when I first entered the fandom- the way people talk about Dick and Jason and Tim and Damian? They'd have you believe that Jason and Tim were delivered to Earth by angels with a chorus singing in the heavens and a light following them everywhere their delicate, innocent feet went. Everything they do is either Justified or Morally Correct. Nothing is Ever Their Fault. They deserve your sympathy and awe, and nothing short of worship is an attack on their character. They'd have you believe that Dick is a Monster, that Everything is his fault, that he's an inherently bad and selfish person because He Tried but He Didn't Devote Himself Entirely to Jason and Tim and Thats Bad and He Deserves To Be Punished For It and that Damian is a Demon, that he's always going to make the choice that serves himself and hurts others, that even though he's a 10 year old boy with a complicated, abusive upbringing, Everything is His Fault Entirely and He Doesn't Deserve Understanding or Mercy.

That's what you see and hear when you enter this fandom. And unless you actually read the comics or do the research by looking through blogs with meta commentary on the comics (with panels provided) or interact with fan media that is based on the comics And Not The Fanon- this is the false opinion that remains.

It drives me crazy that people refuse to engage with the actual canon of something they claim to be a fan of. What are you a fan of if you have no idea what you're talking about? It drives me crazy, because theres so much of this fanon content, you have to literally dig and dig and dig and dig and dig and dig to find the truth. And the truth is so Unbelievably, Undeniably

Not That.

In fact, in most cases whatever you read- the opposite is what actually happened. Or what you read is Entirely Made Up to make one character, (Dick and Damian), look bad in order to prop up the other character, (Jason and Tim). Then people get angry when you point that out, for ruining 'the fun' or their false perception of their fave character. Well I'm angry for having to do it in the first place.

#dick grayson #damian wayne #jason todd #tim drake #anti jason todd #anti tim drake #anti fanon #fanon vs canon #i SERIOUSLY #dont understand this fandom #like ive never been in a big fandom so maybe this utter switcharoo nonsense and making things up bullshit is normal #but to me #i feel like im the only sane person in the room #pointing desperately at the comics like 'what are you TALKING ABOUT????' #my posts

[alltheshadesofamber]

Tim Drake is NOT a chronic insomniac, he is taking a nap right now as we speak

#dc #dc comics #tim drake #like at the very least he doesn’t get any less sleep than the rest of those weirdos who run around the city all night #i don’t get why he’s singled out for this characterization #like seriously yeah maybe he doesn’t get enough sleep but none of the bats do he’s not special in this #and he’s not unable to fall asleep or has trouble with it (which is what insomnia literally is) #he CAN fall asleep he’s just running around on rooftops with the rest of the equally sleep deprived vigilantes #he takes naps all the time he does not have trouble falling asleep or purposefully stay awake refusing to sleep bc he knows his limits #and he’s a health freak. tim is a ‘my body is a temple’ guy #red robin #batman #batfamily #batfam #anti fanon #just to be clear ppl are allowed to have their fanons and i get that i support that #but so many ppl think that popular fanons are ACTUALLY canon and THAT is what annoys me

[starlooove]

I know I’ve grown as a person bc I’m not downloading Twitter just to argue with illiterate tim stans

#u can say his wealth impacting his character is fanon all you want #(which is not how comics have worked ever bc the writers own experiences and interpretations of the social classes the characters fall under #have ALWAYS impacted how they write said characters. see Steph vs Jason vs tim writing and reception. duh.) #but YOU said a plot point has no relevance to the character #you are not being the stupid as fuck allegations mwah #anti tim drake #I hope u see it too #maybe I haven’t grown all that much…