#anti padme

[kanansdume]

Broke: The reason Anidala is so toxic is because Anakin had PTSD that no one recognized or tried to treat.

Woke: The reason Anidala is so toxic is because Padme had PTSD that no one recognized or tried to treat.

Bespoke: Anakin had PTSD that the Jedi teachings would've helped him manage and overcome had Palpatine not interfered and poisoned Anakin against those teachings and encouraging him to lean into behaviors and habits that exacerbated his own PTSD which directly led to his behavior towards Padme and in their relationship that caused issues. In contrast, Padme had PTSD that she chose to set aside in order to keep functioning as Queen for the next three years and never dealt with or managed and cannot function without burying herself in work and in service of some kind which is why she sacrifices all of her childhood dreams of having a family to be a senator when asked after her terms end and she routinely refuses and rejects the care of people who truly care about her like her family and hides things from them in favor of playing out a fantasy with someone who cannot judge her for her own issues and isn't interested in her as a person enough to go looking or notice them anyway.

#anti anidala #anti anakin #anti anakin skywalker #anti padme #anti padme amidala #padme amidala critical #anakin skywalker critical #anidala critical

[comicbookgirl2]

My hot take of Star Wars is that I don’t think Padme is that good of a character and solely exists for two reasons:

A) so Luke and Leía can exist

B) so Anakin would have a catalyst/motivation to fully turn evil.

Outside of these two things her contribution feels so small and insignificant to me. Like I’m not saying that she’s useless or didn’t do some good during her political tenure but her role in Anakin’s story just seems to sadly overshadow everything else in a way that almost feels like it robs the character of her own legacy. It kinda feels sad in comparison to a lot of other female Star Wars characters.

#Star Wars #anti anidala #anti Padme

[airasilver]

Did they even show how Bo-Katan started to be redeemed? Because it certainly just seems as if they want us to believe she’s redeemed. Without the work.

Hell, did they even mention it? Or just think that a lot of us are going to wave everything away?

No one I know of waves away what Boba, Jango, Dooku, Maul, Savage, Anakin, Palpatine, Kylo, Hux, heck even more people have done?

I’ve seen criticism on Padme, Satine, Rey, Leia, Luke, Han, Yoda, Obi-Wan, and the Jedi themselves. Even Bo-Katan I’ve seen criticism.

But I never ever seen or heard Disney speak up about what Bo-Katan or even Satine have done. Or anyone except Anakin and Palpatine. Instead they seem to act like it wasn’t bad, didn’t happen.

When people criticize anyone, the ‘lovers’ come out and bitch. Why? Because we’re actually pointing out what they did?

What’s wrong with that? I just want to point out that even characters aren’t perfect but people sure act like it.

I got off subject/went on a rant but I’m going to reiterate my first question. Did they ever show us or even give us a hint on Bo-Katan’s redemption arc?

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[blackkatmagic]

I'm always a little weirded out by just how much both the movies and the fandom gloss over how utterly uncomfortable Padme was with being around Anakin in the beginning of AotC. Like, this is a woman who grew up under a microscope from the time she was 14, but she still goes so far as to cover all the cameras in her room, knowing that a bounty hunter is after her and just murdered one of her handmaidens, because Anakin watching her creeps her out so much.

And yeah, most of that is because the movies forget about it too in favor of reducing her character to "girl in forbidden love", but still. It's so deeply clear in the first half of the movie just how much Anakin makes Padme uncomfortable. Like. to wild degrees.

#reason 13543 why I have to believe there was at least SOME mental influence going on to get her to ignore that many red flags #at least if we're trying to keep her characterization at all consistent with tpm #kat rants #idk man it just always stands out to me so starkly #maybe because i've been that uncomfortable around people before and ended up in bad relationships when i didn't listen to my instincts #it resonates #padme amidala #star wars #anti anidala

[jedi-enthusiast]

Ok, I know I haven't been very kind about Anakin in my posts lately but like...I'm rewatching TCW while I'm writing and it's literally insane how many times Anakin just...doesn't give a shit about his men and/or fellow Jedi.

Like he consistently makes decisions that get his men killed and you can't even defend it as "he tried his best, but that's war" because nine times out of ten he's either disobeying orders or ignoring the input of someone else saying "this is a bad idea/this is gonna get people killed/we need to do something else."

Like Anakin will literally go out of his way to disobey orders, for literally no reason, and get his men killed.

Not to mention that he shows absolutely no concern for them except for very select situations, and if Padme (or sometimes Ahsoka) is involved then you can bet your ass he doesn't give a shit about his men.

Oh, Rex is also stuck in that lab and dying of some incurable disease? YOU WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN IT FROM ANAKIN'S COMMENTARY!!!

It's just...it's very frustrating rewatching TCW because now I'm actually seeing seeing his actions and I want to hit him with a metal pipe.

#star wars #the clone wars #anti anakin skywalker #anakin skywalker critical #anti anakin #anakin skywalker #ao3 fanfic #fanfic #captain rex #padme amidala #ahsoka tano #jedi enthusiast's fandom debates

[skyguy8108]

This is how Padmé and Anakin would resolve their argument over Padmé going on a dangerous mission not how The Clone Wars portrays it.

Secrets of the Jedi - by Jude Watson

Anakin needed to talk to Padme directly. Palpatine couldn’t order her not to go. But Anakin could.

Padme’s laughter bubbled, then died when she saw he was serious. “You’re ordering me?”

“Yes. I have a right. I have more experience than you do; I’m a Jedi and I know what we could be in for. I’m also an officer in the Republic army.”

“But I’m not.” Padme continued to fold a robe she was placing in a small bag at her feet. “So thanks but no thanks, Commander.”

“It’s dangerous and unnecessary for you to go, and I won’t allow it.”

Padme turned. Her gaze was direct. Cool and composed. That always infuriated him. “I think you know well enough how your attitude angers and upsets me. I don’t respond to orders. I am a Senator. I have a duty to perform. So I am going.”

“Padme, please.” He wanted to give in to her softness, but she stood before him, ramrod straight. She wasn’t wearing her ceremonial robes, only a soft sheath down to her ankles, but she might as well be costumed in armor. He collapsed on his back on the sleep couch. “I don’t know why it’s so hard to talk to you.”

“That’s because you’re not talking to me. You’re ordering me.”

“I’m just trying to keep you safe.”

“This is not the way to do it.” He looked up. She was smiling at him. She came and sat beside him.

“I know you worry about my safety,” she said in the soft tone he loved. “I worry about yours. We live in perilous times, Anakin. We’re in the middle of a war. I’m in danger no matter where I am. We’ve both been in some kind of danger since the moment you arrived to protect me.”

“Agreed. But do you have to volunteer for it?”

She took his hand and laced her fingers through his.

“I offered to go because I knew I would be safe. I knew the best Jedi in the Order would be there to protect me.”

He groaned. “Now don’t start flattering me.”

She grinned at him. “I meant Obi-Wan.”

He tossed a pillow at her, and she shrieked in surprise. She threw it back, and he held it suspended in the air with the Force.

“Are you still trying that same trick on me?”

“It’s worked in the past.” She lay down beside him. They faced each other, almost nose to nose.

“I’ll be careful,” she said.

“I won’t leave your side,” he said.

“Don’t,” she said, drawing him close. “I don’t want you to.”

#anakin skywalker #anidala #padme amidala #star wars #padmé amidala #anti tcw #anti rush clovis #hate rush clovis

[confused-much]

Padme is the original delulu because if my husband killed kids not once but TWICE, openly admitted to serving under a Sith and Force choked me, I would not, in fact, say on my deathbed that there is still good in him.

Quite the opposite, I would probably beg Obi-Wan to hide my kids from that guy.

#star wars #revenge of the sith #padme amidala #anti anakin skywalker #anti anakin #padme critical #delulu is not always the solulu padme

[wearesociety]

i’m so serious about female characters that fandom tries to diminish and erase. I WILL keep my girl alive by all means, years from now a new generation will fall for her and she will mean everything to them.

#bonnie bennett #lily evans #amy march #padme amidala #leia organa #fandom #iris west #princess allura #any really any female character in the harry potter fandom thats not hermione #who also tends to get sidelined #fandom woes #katara #and so many more #susan pevensie #anti julie plec #and most of the times it has to with ships #looking at YOU hp fandom #anti jegulus #anti jegulily #lavender brown #baela targaryen #rhaena targaryen #laena velaryon

[mademoiselle-cookie]

Still a mystery this is

#no one will ever know #padme amidala #anakin skywalker #obi wan kenobi #anti anakin #anakin critical #anti anakin skywalker #lol #star wars #rots #pro-jedi #anakin stan #anti jedi stan #meme #pro jedi

[antianakin]

"Padme is so brave for going to face Anakin on Mustafar without a weapon" Sure yeah I guess, but she's not actually brave enough to accept the truth about what he's done when told point blank about it by someone she claims to trust just like a day or two earlier and when she's one of two people in the entire galaxy who knows EXACTLY what kind of violence Anakin is capable of. There are different kinds of bravery and Padme choosing to go find Anakin on Mustafar by lying to Obi-Wan in order to PROTECT Anakin from justice is pretty explicitly cowardly and selfish, not brave and selfless.

#star wars #revenge of the sith #padme critical #padme amidala critical #anti padme #anti padme amidala #anti anidala #anidala critical

[coline7373]

When I say I dislike Anakin and Anakin/Padme...

You know what crept me out?

In Hostage Crisis of The Clone Wars, Anakin is chilling in Padme's office. He's supposed to be on a spiritual retreat but he prefers to try to convince her to go on a vacation with him.

First, no respect for her work. He's on a vacation. She's not.

Also, no respect for the importance of what she's actually doing. Which, knowing her, is probably saving people's lives. But that's less important than Anakin's vacation?

Second, no respect for his own mental health. Unless, of course, war and death by the millions is a fun time for him and not something he need to meditate over.

And third, he tries to convince her that if she really love him, she will goes along with that he wants (waaaaaaat) because, and I quote:

"Nothing is more important to me than my feelings for you."

I thought, for sure, when he started his phrase, he was going to say "nothing is more important to me than you". Which... clunky, but -okay.

But no.

"... my feelings..."

It's not Padme who matters.

It's Anakin's feelings for Padme.

(Which is so self-centered, self-serving, which resumes Anakin's motivation as a character sickeningly, which is Sith.)

If that doesn't tell you how wrong their romance is, I deeply encourage you to document yourself on what a healthy relationship looks like, because you may need it.

It's not romance.

It's poison.

#anakin skywalker #padme admidala #i watched this two weeks ago and i still think about it #how unhealthy #how creepy #what a horrible thing to say #star wars #star wars meta #the clone wars #tcw meta #the clone wars meta #anti anakin #salty hour #omg #like #how people are not screaming about this scene #its sickening

[mfshipbracket]

#mf ship bracket #mf ship bracket 2023 #bonus round #kylo ren #rey #anti-reylo #reylo #star wars #anakin skywalker #padme amidala #anidala #choice contender for one of the funniest bonus round polls #i call this matchup: “is attempted murder a valid love language?” #amanda here. i think this is like . full circle . etc

[merrysithmas]

Obi-wan and Padme as willfully obtuse rivals

Saw this Take on reddit the other day (I know) but I thought it was so perfectly written and captured exactly the dynamic I always felt Obi-wan and Padme to have. I never saw them as friends (and frankly I don't think the on-screen text supports them as friends). They certainly aren't enemies! They share a friend, they share traits, they even share respect for one another - but they are not in league with one another, and importantly they share a subtle current of mistrust for each one another.

Obi-wan outright states he does not trust politicians, Senators in particular. Padme willingly marries a Jedi which is against the Order and Senate's codes of conduct, and blatantly lies to Obi-wan for years. Obi-wan never confronts Padme about his concern for Anakin despite his growing observation of Anakin's instability. They both prefer, in a way, to pretend the other does not exist. Compartmentalized.

Padme and Obi-wan represent, thematically, a dual influence on Anakin - one he must famously choose between Jedi or Senate (spoiler alert: he ends up choosing himself, Sith). It is worthy to note that they hardly ever interact themselves - this is done on purpose.

It is essential for the tragedy narrative that Obi-wan and Padme do not collide and rarely interact with one another. It is their own personalities which ensure this. Years of subtle feigned ignorance between them and purported respect coupled with disinterested avoidance.

The two are almost eerily similar in their delusions (Padme is naive, Obi-wan is arrogant - yet neither believe they are), they overlap almost constantly in Anakin's life, but on their own they rarely interact together. They stubbornly refuse, both knowingly and unknowingly, to ever truly confront one another about this dangerous tug-of-war they are engaged in with Anakin as, for lack of better term, the object of their desire. Yet they are not, emphatically, a love triangle. Anakin is the prize. The Jedi and the Senate are competitors.

These negative aspects to their characterizations propels the Tragedy Narrative with Anakin/The Chosen One as the McGuffin forward. Neither the Jedi nor the Senate are willing to see the truth about Anakin, and both keep their intentions with him secret. Like Padme and Obi-wan, the Jedi & Senate never wanted to admit Anakin's fate might be multifaceted and linked to many different power structures, so instead they seek to direct him on their own.

Anakin as the Chosen One was essentially the harbinger of a message: the Order and Senate need to be dismantled and refurbished. They were corrupt - the same as Padme and Obi-wan (as figures in a Tragedy). But neither side could admit that.

Padme marries Anakin secretly and intends to take him away from a life of service (when she knows he is deeply conflicted about this, & she marries him when he is struck with unstable grief over Shmi), and Obi-wan is seemingly very aware the Council does not trust Anakin and is keeping him on the outside because of fear of his abilities (when he knows Anakin desperately wants to know the truth) - both of these things intend to direct Anakin, unknowingly. Anakin isn't getting what he needs in either direction, nor is he providing it. Nor is the Force - stuck in limbo between these two forces of "good" which are shutting out Skywalker from himself and each other.

Neither Obi-wan or Padme ever consider confiding in one another about this for years, nor does the Jedi & the Senate. It's because they do not want to. It's because deep down they do not trust each other, and importantly, they do not trust each other with Anakin. Despite pleasantries with one another, that mistrust is always there implied in the narrative. The only place Anakin overlaps in this realm is the War.

The war ending is almost unfathomable - because who will "win" Anakin? Anakin enjoys being a general in the War because he can fight for both the Jedi and the Senate, beside Obi-wan who is, ultimately, his true friend despite the struggle, and for Padme as a princess ideal on a distant planet. With the Jedi who he desperately wants to be (though they shut him out) and for the ideal of the Senate (but not truly having to deal with its realities). He is his happiest during the war - though it is an temporary balm, an illusion of inner peace.

Obi-wan and Padme orbit Anakin, each with their own gravitational pull -- Anakin is obsessed with and bound to Padme because of his trauma regarding Shmi (not, arguably, because of genuine selfless romantic love), and Anakin is duty-bound and desperate for Obi-wan's approval (despite, truthfully, having ideas and aspirations way outside the Jedi Code and Order). His fate with both of them is on a collision course for destruction from the get-go.

In the story, neither Obi-wan nor Padme end up being the final keeper of Anakin (Luke and Leia). Padme's death can be looked at as a narrative choice to show that Anakin's and Padme's relationship was founded on unstable principles (Shmi). Yet, he could not leave his soul in the hands of the Jedi (Obi-wan) either, and so destroyed them. Anakin's soul, the Chosen One, ends up in the hands of Bail Organa of Alderaan and the Lars family of Tatooine.

In the end, the children need protection from Vader. Vader of course represents the instability in both systems of Good (Senate and Jedi) and the Sith taking advantage of that. How the powers of Good can easily fall to the powers of Evil when they are divided, secretive, and especially when they seek to control for their own self-gain. I.e. Padme marrying Anakin, and Obi-wan being unable to admit Anakin's mistrust of the Jedi was founded.

Obi-wan and Padme are forced to finally confront one another upon Anakin's destruction. They are forced, in a way, to admit they played a part in it - specifically. The fact that Obi-wan essentially becomes the twins' defacto parent becomes all the more poignant because of this. Obi-wan and Padme, for lack of a better term, become one another's problem at last.

Obi-wan and Padme's dynamic is extremely interesting, and they do see one another as intellectual equals, even admire one another for their skill, but this admiration falls very quickly to their subtle mistrust of one another.

In the end, in OWK, it's obvious Obi-wan fondly recalls Padme with more than a little regret. He recalls a woman, who like him lost everything (and more, her own life!). In the kids, Luke and Leia, he sees hope for a better government (Leia) and a better Jedi order (Luke) - an answer to the mistakes of two parallel but unconnected people - Padme and himself.

The fact that the children are twins is a hopeful sign the future of the galaxy will be in harmony, not opposed to one another, as with the symbolism of he and Padme.

Leia and Luke are miraculously, as per the Force, a chance to redo both the Senate and the Jedi - a gift that could only be possible as the children of the Chosen One, Anakin Skywalker.

The person they both loved wrong and lost.

#anakin skywalker #obi wan kenobi #padme amidala #luke skywalker #leia organa #obikin #anidala #this isnt anti anything i just like to observe themes and dynamics and symbolism! #they are all deffo messed up and i love it and that's why it's called a #✨Tragedy✨

[hannagoldworthy]

Rush Clovis was not, by any means, the injured party in his fight with Anakin Skywalker! He was forcing Padme to kiss him, and Anakin was just defending her! And, since you defend Clovis after he attempted such a heinous act of sexual violence against a woman, you don’t deserve to call yourself a woman! You Kenobists disgust me to my very soul!

Oh wow. Gee whirlickers. I wonder which of Anakin Skywalker’s anal suppositories inserted this in my mailbox. The writing style is sooooooo unidentifiable. Whatever shall I do.

In case you couldn’t tell (and knowing you, Domina…you can’t), that last paragraph was blatant sarcasm.

The last I checked, it was more than two years ago that this particular argument ended, and there hasn’t been hide nor hair of you seen in the Star Wars fandom since Rings of Power came out. Is the LotR fandom no longer responding to your incessant drama-mongering, Your Highness? Is that why you’re trudging up ancient history in a fandom so far beneath your standards as Star Wars?

Well, Your Worship, I’ll bite, just this one time. I have never, not even once, asserted that Rush Clovis was the injured party in that fight. I have only ever said that Anakin Skywalker is ALSO not the injured party.

The injured party is Padmé Amidala. Who was nearly kissed against her will (and yes, that is tantamount to attempted sexual assault). Who was sure that her beloved husband would come to her defense and stop the assault…only to have Anakin look her in the eye with disgust and say, “YOU have NO say in this!”

Anakin was not fighting to protect Padmé. He was trying to punish her, for something that was not her fault.

He SHOULD have defended her, yes, but instead he treated her like a cheater and a traitor, AND put her mission in considerable jeopardy. If Anakin had kept his head and non-violently escorted Clovis out of the apartment after the kiss was broken, Clovis might have believed Padmé’s argument that she and Anakin were just friends. Instead, he fell for Clovis’s obvious bait into a fight, which told Clovis all he needed to know: that Padmé was in love with someone else, and that she was only dating Clovis to spy on him. And that forced Clovis to accelerate his plans against the Republic, leading to him desperately putting a gun to Padmé’s head the very next episode.

Anakin did not defend Padmè. All he accomplished by beating the shit out of Clovis was putting Padmé in more danger. And if I had been Padmé, I’d have dumped his ass permanently.

That’s my last word on the matter. Now fuck off and get a paying job, Domina, if you can.

#“Anon” ask #tragicfantasy-girl #someone is obviously trying to relive her glory days from two years ago #good grief #get a life #get a hobby #get a boyfriend #go back to Twitter X #Anakin Skywalker #Rush Clovis #Padme Amidala #fandom wank #anti anidala

[jedi-enthusiast]

Something I never really see discussed when people talk about the Tusken Massacre is what Shmi would have wanted Anakin to do, in that situation.

Like, call me crazy, but Shmi absolutely does not strike me as someone who would want to be "avenged" or for her death to be used as a justification for murder of any sort, let alone mass murder and the murder of literal children.

I think, if she ever found out about what Anakin did--what he used her death to justify--I think she'd be horrified. Disgusted.

I think she'd have just about the same reaction as Padme did in RotS when she found out that he had done all of the heinous things he did in that movie for her. She'd hate it!

And I think that's the core of all of Anakin's choices, they're selfish.

So many Anakin apologists like to excuse him committing mass murder and genocide by saying "He was doing it for Shmi/Padme! He was doing it for love!" and like...no he wasn't.

If he was doing it for Padme or for Shmi, then he'd take into account the fact that neither of them wanted/would want him to commit the atrocities he's committing. And the fact that he's not even considering how they might feel about him doing these things, doing them for them, shows that he's not actually doing them for/out of love.

He says he is, but he's not. He's just using them to justify his own terrible, selfish choices.

And some of y'all eat that up.

#star wars #sw prequels #anti anakin skywalker #anti anakin apologists #anakin skywalker critical #anti anakin #pro jedi #anakin skywalker #padme amidala #shmi skywalker #jedi enthusiast's fandom debates

[skysgalaxy]

Unfortunately and most likely Disney will never never never never never never never ever show Padme Amidala again

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