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ink-ghoul · 1 year
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do you think that 'lag' is something that physically hurts the player?
like a headache or something?
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proud-mama-joyce · 2 years
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some predictions for the final Vecna showdown
Major spoilers for Vol. 1 below!
First I want to line up several things we know:
Will has an important relationship with the UD: it’s frozen in time on the day he disappeared, and he has more ability to communicate from the UD than other characters. (Joyce had a LOT of string lights that were lit up at once that he couldn’t have been touching simultaneously, and Will shouldn’t have been able to see the alphabet she wrote on the wall if it were frozen in time. Also, Joyce didn’t plug in the string lights when Will was communicating with her. There’s more I could say here, but I’ll leave it at that for now.)
Vecna appears to have been born with his powers—or at the very least, they predated his lab experimentation. This means that it’s possible for other people in the ST universe to also be born with similar abilities.
We have hints that Will’s memories will be explored in Vol. 2 (e.g., Lonnie’s actor appearing at the table read; Noah posting a video of roller skating in his finale outfit)
Noah was wearing a harness at one point while filming S4
When asked about the saddest scene in ST, Noah said he thought of one in S4 (which likely relates to Will)
There’s a mixtape labeled “For Will” in promo material that we haven’t seen in the show yet
Will’s birthday was forgotten in Vol. 1 (and I do not believe this was an accident)
According to Netflix, an out-of-context spoiler word to describe S4 is “yes” (which has only ever been important in the past on the show during Mike’s memory of meeting Will on the swings)
In E7, El overpowers 001 following a memory of her mother’s “I love you,” suggesting again that love provides the key to Vecna’s defeat
In a recent interview, the Duffer brothers said that “Running Up That Hill” was chosen in part because of how well it connected thematically to how Vecna’s curse is defeated. (Does it have something to do with “swapping places,” then?)
From the episode titles that were released, we have several translations of last episode: “The Piggyback," "The Stowaway," "The Infiltration," "Eleven's Plan," "The Stealth Plan," "The Guest," and "The Hunt for Vecna"
That “infiltration” translation is interesting—Dustin asked Max if she thought she had infiltrated Vecna’s mind. He described her location as “Freddy Krueger’s boiler room,” which is notable since El is seen in the HNL boiler room with 001 before their faceoff
The D&D game and basketball game appear to foreshadow someone unexpected coming in at the last minute to provide a victory. Dustin’s roll is too low initially, and then Erica (the guest player) rolls a 20. Lucas is on the bench all game, but provides the winning shot.
More subjectively, there appear to be many Tom Riddle parallels with Vecna. If Will had more abilities than meets the eye, I think Vecna would be *very* interested in him, and possibly become preoccupied with understanding his abilities and the potential threats they may pose to him (in the way that Tom Riddle was obsessed with tracking down Harry). We already know that Will’s disappearance is tied to freezing the UD in time, but we don’t know how that may have affected Vecna—but if it did, it would provide him with a powerful motive for seeking out Will specifically (on top of other reasons).
Now let’s have some fun…here's one way I could imagine this coming together:
Paralleling the D&D and basketball games, the Hawkins gang make a plan to defeat Vecna that initially fails. The California gang + El arrive in Hawkins, El has her powers back, and they think they have everything set up for a victory, albeit a risky one. Since Max is still cursed, they attempt to make use of the fact that she’s familiar with Vecna’s location and tactics and that he’s still after her. Max chooses to stop listening to her mixtape in order to draw Vecna back. In the meantime, Eddie tries to disrupt the demobats’ echolocation abilities by shredding on his guitar, to keep Vecna from scouting for a new victim rather than keeping his attention on Max. Then, El attempts to make a psychic connection with Max during her trance in order to defeat Vecna, while Max tries to hold him off as long as possible. (In this way, they would “piggyback” onto Vecna’s connection with Max.)
However, this plan fails because the moment the California gang arrived, Vecna became obsessed with getting to Will—not only because of his trauma, but because of their similarities (if Will was born with abilities like he was) and/or the past connections he sees with the UD in Will’s memories. If Vecna is like Tom Riddle, he sees Will as a threat he needs to better understand. So Vecna doesn’t want to focus on Max, and he spotted Will before the demobats got diverted. However, he can’t resist the fact that Max is offering herself up to his clutches, so he keeps her in a limbo rather than the full trance that El needs in order for her to enact her part of the plan. El can’t make the connection she needs, and everyone panics.
Then: an unexpected person—Will—provides the key to victory, but it doesn’t look good at first. Vecna curses him while the other planning is being carried out. Maybe Will initially hides it, but eventually Mike sees a nosebleed (like he saw Max’s) and puts two and two together. Mike “kicks into gear” and alerts the others because he realizes Will is in danger—but it’s almost too late. Will is put into a trance with Vecna, and El’s newly regained powers are temporarily too crippled to connect with Will after her attempt with Max. Vecna relentlessly torments Will about feeling forgotten (especially on his birthday), about hiding his love for Mike, about his sexuality, and about his past traumas.
Maybe Vecna brings Will back to his memory of meeting Mike at the swings. If, like Voldemort, Vecna is an antagonist who doesn’t fully understand love, he might think Will wishes he could erase Mike from his life and all the suffering that came along with him. So maybe he asks Will, after all of his tormenting visions, if Will would choose to take back his “yes” to Mike. Even knowing the heartbreak, would he still choose to be his friend? Why return to that, when he could join him instead and make full use of his abilities?
But he underestimates Will—and Mike, who’s losing his mind trying to reach him. (Maybe he’s put on the “For Will” mixtape that he was too scared to give to Will on his birthday, but it’s not enough this time because Vecna learned from his encounter with Max.) Will’s trance goes on, and he levitates. His imminent danger prompts important realizations for Mike and ultimately leads to a love confession. Will more clearly sees what’s happening outside of his trance due to his “true sight” and stronger ability to communicate to/from the UD. He hears Mike’s love confession, which suddenly empowers him against Vecna in the way that El’s mother’s love did.
Will breaks free of Vecna by making a psychic connection with him and reversing who’s in control, overpowering him. “Yes,” he still chooses Mike, even with the pain that has accompanied everything. (Will the Wise rolls a 20. The lights everywhere shine intensely. Mike and the others think all might have been lost.) The psychic connection he creates opens a new rift, allowing him to get back through. He collapses into Mike’s arms, as Mike sobs in relief.
In a quieter moment, Will finally gives Mike his painting. It’s the two of them at the swings when they met. Before, “it was you guys who saved me.” This time, it was Mike.
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th3b4dk1dzz · 12 days
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The Just Dancers as a DnD Party
Designs created by me on Hero Forge
Sara as a Fighter (Champion)
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With Sara being new to the Danceverses. I considered what the DnD equivalent to this, which I settled on champion Fighter (I think my first character was one). The simplicity of the build works for Sara as a character due to her being the player insert coach of JD23.
Wanderlust as a Sorcerer (Divine Soul)
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Given that Wanderlust is described as a Sorcerer in canon, it seemed obvious what class should be. I chose Divine Soul as Favoured by the Gods ties in with him being The Chosen One. Also I think I like the idea of Wanderlust having healing magic, although we've never seen him use it in game.
Brezziana as a Paladin (Oath of Glory)/Fighter (Banneret)
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I think there's a lot of abilities in a Paladin's tool kit that could be flavoured to Brezziana's build. For instance, the flow that radiates off her in Stronger could either be her aura of protection or her divine smites, and her helping people up in the bridge to Physical could be her casting Lay on Hands. As for her subclass, Oath of Glory paladins are all about honing the body and being at your physical peak to overcome challenges, if that's not perfect for her as a fitness trainer I don't know what is.
I also gave her a fighter multiclass to tie into the lyric, "What doesn't kill you, makes a fighter." The features of Banneret fighters, also known as Purple Dragon Knights (like her hair colour) have a lot of supportive capabilities, thus tying more to her Paladin features of keeping her allies up in the fight.
Mihaly as a Monk (Way of the Astral Self)
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Mihaly fits into the Monk class like a singular coloured glove. Their dance style is quick, fluid, and controlled, which ties into the high dexterity wisdom monks need. They have a strong spiritual connection to the flow, which mechanically would be their ki.
As @halfratsalready said in their own Just Dance & Dragons posts, Way of the Astral Self is a reflavour of Mihaly's panda form, stemming from years of honing their monk abilities connection to the world around them
Jack Rose as a Bard (College of Eloquence)/Rogue (Swashbuckler)
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I mean, he is a performer, and bards do have a feat called jack of all trades.
I gave him the College of Eloquence as they're geared around holding the attention of the crowd and charming people. Additionally, I added a Swashbuckler rogue multiclass because rogues have a lot of tools to get out of the way, evade damage, and swashbucklers have a lot of charisma based abilities, thus suiting his spell casting modifier.
Mostly, I think he would be doing support spellcasting from range, but from having the rogue sneak attack, he would just be able to do a lot more damage if an enemy got too close.
Bonus: Fairy!Discoball
In this universe Discoball is Wanderlust's familiar/protector/younger sibling (they're really tiny). Think the Tinkerbell to his Peter Pan or the Navi to his Link.
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sasoxichomoshi · 18 days
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are the pathless and abzu related? yes, and this connection is way more important than people give credit for (i will be rambling now)
visual cues are everywhere; the beheaded shark statue right at the start of the game, the purification process and the spirit realm architecture all nods to the previous game as the shells and the locked door at cerno's domain are literal imports from abzu, which are all sweet references present in the pathless
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everything that concerns the spiritual realm has a touch of abzu (pantone abzu blue when)
i'd also add that i have autistic urges to just write about how the pathless feels like this result from accumulated knowledge/experience from past Nava games - the pathless has both the 'myth of creation' and the journey of the hero combined in order to tell this lil story with these silly characters (i see it all as if giant squid team woke up one day and said "what if we made like a fancy fanfic yknow" really best decision ever), however knowing myself it''d just feel like nonsense rambling (even worse than this) and a bit off topic, but i had to mention or my skin wouldn't stop itching
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anyway back to the two games -
i have this recurring impression that abzu allegories and symbolism are woven in the fabric of reality in the pathless - it's not about them directly, but are foundational for whatever is being told here and now
you cannot, in full consciousness, tell me that these are just easter eggs in the pathless that giant squid introduced because it's a past title from the studio; not when there was giant effort in blending the two games sensibly - abzu is brought up in the symbolism, the color palette (red/blue), in the environment, and it's even present in the soundtrack
in short, tying the universe of the two games together was intentional
but despite visually tied, it still made no sense to me; ok we share the color palette, we wander around with the help of a tall one, we defeat the bad one, what else there's to it? is it just the start of the giant squid MCU? giant squid cinematic universe? or gaming universe? (i feel stupid)
regardless, as i answered the question to how, i wanted to understand why - and to make sense out of it all, i resorted to a feature unique to the pathless: written text
what is so important to tell the player that you need written text, something you were avoiding in all your past games but that suddenly you bring back out of nowhere to tell a story in a way you havent done before? i can just assume some topics were too necessary to just left it implied (at best), or never explained (at worst)
one of the reasons i have written this blog post until this point (the main reason, actually) is that i feel there's a bit of an overlook of an essential part in the established the pathless n abzu crossover (can i call it that?), something that permeates everything, but it's not really visible in a literal way
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as i played the game, godslayer perspective and motives stood out - they are the focus of a good part of all the tablets and dead people's memories - and as i dived deeper into the abzu connections (pun not intended) certain lines got too remarkable:
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so,,, godslayer deems this world broken because it's made out of pure chaos, ok i guess it makes sense uhhh wait wait im having flashbacks i have seen this befo-
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uhh oooooohhh ok ok get it i can see some parallels ughhh woooow just wow omg
the underlying factor here is that chaos is origin, foundation for both games universes (tho we can all see that at this point it's the same universe)
in abzu, by ordaining chaos the diver brings back life; in the pathless the ordained chaos, the one that constitutes all life, is at risk because someone decided that having everything made out of (essentially) chaos wasnt really suitable for the second industrial revolution i guess
note: if you know nothing about abzu i recommend reading this post cause it explains a bit about what chaos means in abzu, hence it's relevant to the pathless too
and understanding the chaos that impregnates existence as a whole is central in the pathless, which brings us to another focal point the game brings up: religion
you see religion a big deal in the pathless in the sense that it defines factions; you pick a side, and it's what drives the line of action of almost everyone in the island - the pathfinder quest against the tall ones, the godslayer followers vs the tall ones followers, entire communities dedicated to their local gods, and so on
superficially, it's easier to go to the "bad vs good" route where godslayer must be defeated to keep the order and the light and tall ones good guys whatever, the problem of this line of thought is: too much black and white and no gray to be seen
the pathless final message speaks about decision making: you are free to trace your own path (and this message is reinforced through game design and the title and at the final boss fight, you can name it) however, here lies the detail: similar to the chaos surrounding us, it goes unnoticed that the will to take a determined path comes from within
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that's why religion is a hot topic in the pathless, it's what allows people to trace a path in a chaotic world, literally
the myth of creation - the eagle mother, the branch, her children - in itself is a form of understanding reality, religion - prayers, sacrifices, lines of conduct, contemplation - is also a form of grasping the real, and from this understanding, this particular view of the world, you are invited to take action; you cultivate the land and you build temples dedicated to your god
you take action based in what you believe, and you can see it better in the dead followers you can commune with through the island, they are fierce in their beliefs, which leads them to make a stand or fight back
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it also stands out how the tall ones are imbued with negative traits; nimue shifts moods like summer rain, kumo is terribly jealous and childish, sauro despite everything will resort to violence, cernos is too shy, heck even eagle mother as gentle as she is let atrocities took place before any meaningful action was considered
all the tall ones have their virtues and imperfections because in the end they are also made out of chaos, essentially they are not that different from any tree on the plateaus; but, as the tablets about the masks state, they see things beyond this realm, and with this knowledge they try to guide those that dont see it - it's like this for their followers, and hunter is also guided by them
godslayer is no different, he took a path lead by his beliefs, beliefs those that reject the idea of having life from chaos, which lead to his obsession of fixing what he deemed broken; from his perspective, he suffered in the hands of the tall ones and their followers which made him believe that anything of their nature was treacherous - he failed tho, failed to understand that a single path would lead to perpetual suffering (as some memories states, "i was not meant to bloodshed"), which was a fate his followers had bittersweetly tasted
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in this scenario, hunter is special: she's an outsider, she doesn't comprehend her mission just yet neither knows those lands; she's facing chaos in its pure form and in order to make sense of her new reality, she takes the eagle mothers advices; upon taking on the trials of the island she witnessed chaos in its many forms, and she assimilates it, not good nor bad but a 'in between' - that's why (from my understanding), on purifying the godslayer final form, her eyes glow in bright blue not because she's some 'declared since birth' allied of the tall ones, but because it signals purpose, she understands the chaos, the one that causes life and death, and she embraces that view from within and translates it into strength to fight back and endure
there's not a single creature in this world that doesnt feel lost and be it whatever creature - human, tall ones, demons, animals, everyone is trying to make sense of this confusing world we live in, be it through any path at hand - and religion is just one of the possible ways in the sea of infinite available paths
as hunter explores deeper into the island, she bonds with the tall ones but make no mistake, she's not really a faithful follower - and she doesn't need to be - cause she has the understanding that the tall ones represent this organized chaos necessary to the flux of life, she respects them
pathfinder, unfairly treated, will look at the tall ones and see just lies, refusing their guidance, he will strive for a new path not taken before and ignore any previous knowledge about the world, he will build up a single vision for a brand new reality absent of chaos because that's how he was conditioned to see and absorb the world around him
(and that makes godslayer feels even more tragic, having the possibility of seeing the world through new lenses by wearing the mask of the ancients yet he persisted in his views and ignored the reality as it was - chaos neatly woven - perhaps out of hate and sorrow for all past injustices; even in the end he resisted to accept the world that nurtured him, as he too was made out of chaos - and for that he's forgiven)
you and i can both worship sauro, but in the end we will look at the surrounding chaos from different perspectives and i will decide that pottery is the way to go while you see the sword as the suitable option; as the truth stands, this is a pathless land - there's no defined answer
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the pathless, beyond the 'pathless land' lesson, has something more to tell - that perhaps the path is already established and to you is given the choice of going forward that path or re-evaluate and change directions;
if i had to define the pathless i'd say it's about what touches the eye and where you rest you hand (which can also explains why the eye is an ever present image throughout the game); through perception you grasp the world around you, you create your views and based on it you take action - will you release the bow string? will you strike with your sword? will you cultivate the land? or will you shed blood? what have you seen that made you act like this?
what a chaotic world
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anyway, i have too much to say and no one to listen so my only options are write Big Blog Post or bang my head against the wall if you read until here (complete madness) thanks for enduring until the end
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(cant wait to see the pathless references in sword of the sea i have faith)
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supermarioterrarium · 5 months
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I don't actively engage in UT/DR fandom but i adore the games and have Thoughts about them that usually don't escape the walls of my own head. And they're thoughts that I really haven't found echoed anywhere, at least not all in one place or fully formed. so have some stray thoughts and half-theories, some of which pertain to spoilers:
generally:
i don't think i've played any work or series of works that's more tuned into what's special about games as a medium. it's very intimately familiar and in love with genre conventions and contrivances, and uses that to tell a story that's about games and is meta, but not-actually-meta, in a way that avoids the hangups of stories that are overly aware of themselves. it's very much aware of itself but it doesn't fall into autofellatio, the awareness is always in service to telling an interesting story. suspension of disbelief isn't sacrificed for a gimmick or gag. it's all very contained and very consistent with itself even when it's also self-aware. the consistency of every element and how they mesh with every other element and how nothing breaks in spite of that metanarrative also existing is a big part of why i admire it so much i guess. everything feels natural at a glance but if you look at the whole it's obvious that it must've been very difficult to construct. it's meticulous like a watch's insides. everything seems to be in the place it's in for a good reason. even if after the fact toby says that such and such was spontaneous, a good job was done to make sure it didn't feel that way. it's all integrated cleanly.
more specifically:
some disparate ideas and theories that i feel somewhat strongly about but wouldn't be, say, super prepared to like argue or write an essay on:
I think that anyone leaning too heavily on the fact that Toby said DR is its own game is probably going to be blindsided. it's pretty obvious to anyone who's media-literate that the two games are, and are going to continue to be, very important to each other.
I think that UT and DR are going to be, in one way or another, cyclical. and I mean that literally -- i think that they will somehow "cause" each other's narratives to "exist". Neither is a sequel or a prequel, because they're both sort of.. both.
Connected to that thought, I don't think it will be possible to tell where Sans and Papyrus "originally" came from. Everything I've seen makes me think that their existence, at least at the point we're allowed to interact with them, is a bootstrap paradox. They came from the DR world to the UT world, and that's because they came from the UT world to the DR world. and so on and so forth, with no discernible origin point anymore.
I think Gaster is actually two monsters. or people. or darkners. whatever he is, he's two things. The motif of "one monster being two monsters" in UT feels like one of very few complete loose ends. You've got froggit, you've got shyren, you've got mysteryman himself.. and it's a theme that's never really brought up in the narrative proper. but shyren's case is alluded to in sprite names and in extracanonical material (sans' tumblr post), and the concept is implied in the latter to be connected to gaster in some way. I don't know why it's important, but it definitely seems like he's actually two things.
I think 1997 is definitely the in-universe year that Dess went missing, and also the year that Asgore did whatever he did to get kicked off of the police force. And that those two events are probably connected, but that's a pretty popular idea already. It also seems likely that it happened during a blizzard. I don't see the year being discussed as often as the other elements, though. I don't know if it being that particular year really even means anything outside of it being that year, but it wouldn't feel right in a storytelling sense if the year wasn't tied to things in that way.
I think Kris is gradually learning how to manipulate the "anomaly" (the player) via narration. Or to put it another way, I think the narration is one of the primary ways they can interact with us, and that this also means that they can limit our interaction with the world using the narration. The example at the tail-end of CH2 is the most obvious example -- Kris actively manipulates the narration in order to make sure we make the choice that allows them to take us out of the equation. They obey our command (use a sink), but in a way that's more favorable to them (use the bathroom sink). This also happens when we ask them to enter Asriel's room in Queen's mansion: They do so, but close their eyes. To put it another another way: Kris has to follow our commands to the letter, but not necessarily to the spirit. This is also how/why they say what we choose them to say, but very clearly disagree with certain choices and are able to express that to some degree with tone and face/body language. Is this something they came to understand naturally? Or is it something Ralsei informed them of during one of their offscreen conversations? Who knows at this point, but I think it's definitely going to lead to some interesting twists. It already has! Other examples include not reading the entirety of the human adoption book in the library, or the entire newspaper report in the police station. It could also be the case with the piano in the hospital -- Kris frowns and plays a sour note because they have to do something but they don't really want to play for an audience (reinforced by one of the hidden blog entries from the spamton fundraiser)
The knight could be Alvin. or Papyrus. or Ice-E (only half-joking). I'm really not sure. It could be more than one person! It's definitely not Kris and anyone who thinks it is needs to.. read more or get their brain re-wrinkled or something. Kris making the fountain at the end of CH2 is a really obvious red herring. If you got any read on them as a character at all, and paid attention to the stuff going on around them, there are plenty of justifications for what they did without them having to be the knight.
Something that popped into my head more recently that I have less of a concrete foothold on: perhaps Noelle was, or thinks she was, at least somewhat responsible for what happened to Dess, and was able to either 1) claim she knew nothing about it or 2) somehow lay the blame on Asgore. Based on how she and Rudy talk about Asgore and the Dreemurs in the present day, I definitely lean way more toward the former, with him getting taken off the force by the mayor because he wasn't able to solve the disappearance rather than because he was directly responsible. The trauma and *denial* Noelle seems to feel about everything surrounding that situation makes me think she knows more about it than she lets on.
The item descriptions of the shadow crystals seem to depict a universe where Kris never existed (which significantly ties into the UT goner kid's dialogue!). Susie never becomes a decent friend, and, more surprisingly, dark worlds don't seem to exist. Like I said before, I really don't think Kris is the knight, but this and that are two different things. The dark worlds' existence being tied to Kris' isn't the same thing as Kris creating the dark worlds. It having something to do with them is still really significant, though.
I think i have more thoughts than that but i'm struggling to think of them so that's all for now
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kusukixcrystal · 10 months
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Zen & Rika are Trapped in The MM World Part 2
Now that I established all of the 4th wall breaks and references to previous Cheritz games, we can now get into Zen, Rika and the April Fool’s DLC in more detail, and how all of this ties together.
Let’s start by discussing these references. I think they are also diegetic, like the 4th wall breaks. If MM is a pocket universe created by Saeyoung and V, then of course they would know about the events of Dandelion and Nameless. Why? Because those events inspired them to create the MM pocket universe. They saw The Wizard host these games and meddle in the lives of mortals. He not only accumulates a lot of power by hosting these games but also ends up with Heejung in the end. I talked about how I think V wants to be with Rika, paralleling The Wizard and Heejung’s situation.
What Saeyoung gets out of this is 2 things: 
1. Creating a ‘videogame/pocket universe’ because he enjoys it.
2. Get more memories to fuel his power by getting the MC/player to play through the routes.
I can imagine Saeyoung throwing in references to Dandelion and Nameless as a homage to his inspiration for creating this pocket universe, just like how game developers irl reference their own inspirations/previous works. This is really meta, I know. It’s amazing.
The laws of how this pocket universe seems to work are like a videogame. People are machines/AI/robots. They have to follow a set algorithm/script. The only way we can interact with the characters is through the messenger and VN scenes that only show certain locations. 
This is how I interpret all of the weirdness in Mystic Messenger, while also connecting it to information we have about wizards.
Rika is Trapped:
I discussed in a follow-up to my Saeran/Ray Another Story post that Rika may actually be trapped in the MM pocket universe too, along with Zen. Though in her case, she finds out this truth and seems to want to get it out. I suggested that this is part of why she created Mint Eye, to get away from V and find a way out of the pocket universe. 
1. Rika was the one who told Yoosung that everyone in the RFA are machines in the CS common route bad ending. I talked way more about this in the Saeran/Ray follow-up post.
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2. Let’s elaborate on Jumin’s story:
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This friend that Jumin is talking about is Rika. For her to want Jumin to read this book, that coincidentally is about the origins of Nameless... I have a feeling that she knows this book’s contents are based on actual events, and that she wants to tell Jumin the truth of their universe, but had to start small.
On that note, Jaehee, Yoosung, and Jumin all seem to understand on some level that their world is fabricated. This is extremely evident in the April Fool’s DLC.
Zen is Trapped:
Here we go. This one is gonna have way too many screenshots:
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I can not understate how bonkers this DLC is when it comes to the deeper lore of this game. It took the bad endings, 4th wall breaks, and references, and blows it all out of the water. It feels like all of it has led up to this: a scenario in which Zen realizes he is living in a pocket universe. This crack started in the CS common route bad ending, but we don’t actually see him believe Yoosung.
In this DLC it is Zen’s birthday, and he found himself unable to leave the RFA chat and remains logged in the entire day. I believe that this is because the messenger is the main way characters can communicate in this pocket universe, and if characters are not on screen then they... might be in stasis? Or something similar? In any case, keeping Zen in the chat like this forces him to exist and remain present the entire time.
In the screenshots above, Jaehee clearly understands something that Zen doesn’t. She gives him hints on how to ‘become like them’. In this DLC everyone is an inanimate object: 707 is cardboard, Yoosung is an omelet, Jumin is a cat, and Jaehee is a coffee maker. She doesn’t directly spell it out for him. If Zen does what she says, and acts as bizarre as them, essentially blending into the ‘normal’ of this world, then he turns into an inanimate object too in a bad ending. Can you see the double meaning here? This is a microcosm of what living in the usual (CS, DS, AS) MM pocket universe is like. Act like everyone else. If you don’t, it can lead to suffering (see CS common route bad ending).
Let's ask. Why is this DLC so bizarre anyway? Why did the laws of the pocket universe change? Well, our answer is from dear old Saeyoung the wizard.
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This is what he does at the end of the DLC if you get the good ending, where Zen ‘wakes up from his dream’ and has his B-day party. We literally witness Saeyoung state that he needs to change the messenger back to normal. He talks about it in terms of doing magic as a wizard.
Anyway, let’s get back to Zen being trapped. The following screenshots is Zen realizing that he is in a pocket universe. Buckle in it's a doozy:
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I mentioned in the past how I think Zen is a prince from Grass. I bring up multiple possibilities for how he got to the MM universe, and I think the most likely one is that he was trapped here, whether he wanted to be here originally or not. He seems to have either been here since he was a child, or his childhood memories were fabricated by Saeyoung. In any case, this dream he had when he was younger may have potentially been him seeing the future. Because he had it when he was younger, it may be further back in the timeline from what we play through in the MM routes. So, seeing us, the real us beyond the screen is predicting the future. It predicted that Zen will find out that we are an entity in another dimension/universe. 
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I talk about MC and the player interchangeably, and that’s not an accident. I mentioned in a past post that I believe that this time around, we the player are the MC. The avatar with the long brown hair we see in pictures throughout the game is just a vessel for us to interact with the MM pocket universe. This is why she is a blank slate with little personality outside of predetermined options. This is why the MC this time has no personality while in Dandelion and Nameless, Eri and Heejung were fully fleshed-out characters.
I talked in more detail about how we, the player, have been established as an in-universe character way back in Nameless, too.
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This doesn’t sound good... this sounds like a man who has fallen into despair. Zen says he has come to terms with it, but he also told us to "use me". He is trapped here, but hey, at least he has some entity in another dimension/universe that he can talk to. Even if that entity is restricted with limited dialogue options! At least a real person knows he’s there, and he asks us to come and see him any time... 
Mystic Messenger’s hidden story is messed up. 
It’s probably a better outcome to get the good ending in this DLC, where Zen celebrates his birthday with the RFA, his fellow prisoners (if Yoosung is to be believed about them being real people at some point). Maybe ignorance is bliss in this case?
Now let’s think about why Saeyoung or V would want Zen to be here. Maybe both Rika AND Zen made a desperate wish. Maybe Zen made this wish to either V or Saeyoung, not The Wizard from Dandelion. 
Perhaps Zen wanted to get away from Grass, for reasons I mentioned in my previous posts? And they technically grant it by sending him here to the MM pocket universe. His memories of Grass may have been the price for this wish, thus why he doesn’t remember his old life as a prince.
As for Rika she probably still led a tragic life, not dissimilar to her backstory from RAS. It seems like she made this desperate wish to a wizard we have never seen before. We even SEE this happen with her in V’s after ending, where Rika is seen in a dimension eerily similar to where The Wizard and other wizards are known to reside.
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The background is a sea of stars. They aren’t identical but keep in mind that Dandelion was made in 2012, and V after the story was made in like 2018. In RAS we see this location again, along with it we hear a song from Dandelion play called “Ra rochu ra no so - In a Frozen Dream”.
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It’s the same song. The wizard speaking to Rika has a female voice and seems to be much gentler. I think that besides V and Saeyoung there are definitely way more wizards involved in all of this.
TL;DR: Mystic Messenger is a pocket universe created by Saeyoung and V. Their goal differs. V wants to be with Rika and Saeyoung wants memories/fun. Rika and Zen both had desperate wishes. Zen to leave Grass and Rika to realize she is the sun. Zen made his wish to either V or Saeyoung, and they grant it by sending him to the MM universe. Rika made it to an unknown wizard but is whisked away by V because he became obsessed with her. He tries to become her ‘sun’. This doesn’t work out.
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so the ending of between the sheets just left me gasping. literally! like it was so fucking powerful?! especially the last line. i was reading it at 3am in complete darkness and it was quite an experience.
i particularly love this part from your end notes for chapter 8:
This is Khun Korn's final miscalculation: Porsche isn’t a pawn, or a queen. Porsche is the player on the other side of the board.
so i was wondering if you would ever continue this with a sequel or maybe a oneshot set in the universe? or will you wait for s2 and see what happens?
either way, ill be cherishing this fic for a long long time. i can't wait to read your abo fic! especially cause porsche has a HUGE leverage over korn so the game has to end if korn wants a grandchild.
i get this question a lot, lol.
as of current, there are no plans for a sequel to sheets. i'm enjoying that it's finished, and i don't want to start another massive wip yet. if there is a season 2, and it inspires me, there might be a sheets sequel. but. we'll see.
but i've been thinking lately about what would go into a between the sheets sequel, even if it wasn't about porsche's war game with korn. so here are a few things i've been playing with in my head:
the wik fandom freaks out about their idol's injuries (bandaged hand, and cut on forehead) which is how chay finds out that kim and porsche had a Chat
chay goes to porsche about it, prepared to yell at him for beating up his boyfriend, only to be shocked to discover that porsche seems to get on with kim??? and is trying to get kim and kinn to make up????
chay's life is very hard
speaking of chay, i want an inevitable showdown between chay and macau where chay runs into him at a function and is an incredibly petty bitch to him, because if porsche can figure it out, chay can too
the other chay scene i want is chay learning self defence with chan and arm, because he doesn't want to be a liability to porsche. he keeps this a secret from porsche, though
meanwhile, kinn and porsche are incredibly in love, and incredibly steady
i think khun korn probably tries to test their devotion a few times, and kinn and porsche don't even flinch. they are committed to this and to each other.
porsche spends probably the next few months after sheets establishing himself as a credible threat, and also as kinn's man. porsche and kinn are a very good combined force -- porsche has a lot of the soft people skills that kinn lacks. people like and respect him. people fear and respect kinn.
one scene in particular i want to have is porsche talking to chay about the fact that kinn wants him to go back to university. porsche's degree was in hospitality and management, and kinn wants him to convert it into a straight up business degree, which isn't insane, there's a fair bit of overlap of the classes, but porsche is uncertain. it would help him from a reputation perspective, in the theerapanyakul business, but... as difficult as porsche found the adjustment, porsche has excelled as kinn's bodyguard in a way he never did at university. chay points out that porsche has never been able to prioritise his studies before. chay tells porsche it's up to him, but he thinks porsche should do it.
i think porsche probably does in the end, and i think he turns out to be better at it than he thought he'd be. it probably helps that kinn proofreads his assignments for him.
the other thing i have definitive thoughts about is the huge main family vs. minor family showdown, but that ties into the vague plans i have for vegas/pete in this universe
without going into too much detail, pete forms a connection with vegas that's basically vegas being literally tied to a chair as pete spits straight facts about vegas's mental state and childhood to him
vegas: you think i'm scared of you? my own father's done worse to me than you have!
pete: have you considered... your father's a piece of shit?
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i think the reversal of the dynamics from canon would be interesting, because pete would have a more dominant role in the relationship. i think pete's feelings towards vegas become less about empathy and connection than they do... i guess protective? he feels responsible for vegas, like it's on him to take care of him. i also think pete would be less tolerant of vegas hurting him.
i think vegas tells pete a lot of things to try and incite pete into hitting him, or hurting him, because that would put the situation back into something he's familiar with and knows how to handle
vegas telling pete that he drugged and assaulted porsche is one of these things
pete's very placid and nonreactive during most of these, just sort of takes what vegas says and doesn't react much, even if he thinks the shit that's coming out of vegas's mouth is awful in the extreme
much like pete would have preferred to be torturing people, i think vegas would have preferred to be tortured
he doesn't know what to do with this
he doesn't know how to handle someone who listens to his worst actions and doesn't flinch
he doesn't know if he can keep believing the lies he's told himself his entire life, about what he's worth, and how his father treats him, when it turns out that he's almost living a better life as the main family's captive than he did as his father's heir
i think the romantic/sexual part of their relationship probably hangs in a tortured limbo, a bit
because i think vegas would definitely try to kiss pete, and start something, even chained to a table, just to try and provoke a reaction out of him
because pete has a position of absolute power over his life at this moment
and nothing vegas does has any effect
and he gets desperate, he needs to have something he can do, some leverage he can have over pete
and i think pete would not be... unaffected, but that he would misread this a little, and see it as evidence for the way he has completely and entirely shattered vegas's world, and forced himself into a position of absolute focus there
i think vegas tries to leverage the fact that they kissed and pete kissed back to try and escalate things further, maybe imply that chan won't like to hear about it and pete's just plain, "i already informed him about it."
the other small thing i want to have in this section is pete, as like, a reward for good behaviour to vegas, taking news of vegas to macau, and macau trying to kill him. (he doesn't get that far.)
i do think lines get crossed, a little. i don't think it's entirely about the interrogation, at times, for pete. i think a lot of the compassion is genuine -- one abuse victim reaching out to another.
just as this fucks with vegas's head, it fucks with pete's, too.
okay MEANWHILE, porsche and kinn have been ruminating over the minor family issue, because with vegas in their captivity, the instability is getting worse
gun's barely holding onto the reins.
so porsche is like, "we need your father to fake his death."
so that's what they do.
the attack goes down a little differently in canon, because the main family are fully prepared. big's with chay, in a safehouse outside the city. chan and porsche are commanding the troops, so to speak.
during the attack, the cells where vegas is being kept are breached, and they break him out. on his way out, he runs into pete, who has a gun, and they point their guns at each other. and then vegas lowers his, and walks until pete's gun is touching his forehead. he dares pete to kill him.
pete can't.
vegas kisses him, sticks his hands in his pants, they get a bit frisky, but then someone calls out for vegas, and he goes.
pete sits there, clothes a mess, gun in hand, and he sobs. and then he gets up and does his job.
anyway, that's about all i have. gun probably dies, and korn would have even more reason than in canon to offer porsche the minor family ring (probably as like an engagement gift or some manipulative shit), pete definitely resigns, but the casualties are almost certainly lower. tankhun and chay are almost certainly not in the compound.
most of this is very up in the air, to be honest. shit like this i wouldn't know fully until i wrote it. so, you know. take it all with a pinch of salt. but those are my very messy and incomplete thoughts about an immediate sequel for sheets.
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Chapter 14- Part 16
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No no, nononono, I don’t think she wants to be perceived right now, just leave her to pretend to be invisible like a ghost- that’s probably why her hair is white! Just look at Danny!
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I’m sure Xera would very much like to be an intangible phantom right now!
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I mean, to be fair, that one evil guy had the control of the whole PULSE Tangrowth, that’s way tougher to bring down than a trio of Grunts with Pokémon that are likely not as well-leveled.
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Ooooh no, that ring is super important for some reason, oh dear, what have we done, oh no-
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Yeah, now that I think about- probably difficult for a father to scold his pre-adolescent and rebellious child when said child can just…fly away in the middle of it.
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Why is this a choice…? Does anything actually change if we say ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ here? He said it’s non-negotiable, so I assume it’s one of those “the game won’t let you progress until you select ‘Yes’” things. Not that I’m gonna select ‘No’ here to test it, or as a joke, this scene is a bit too serious for me to want to do that…
Because, admittedly- okay, yeah, I’ve made my suspicions of Corey very clear by now, but this is still a painful moment, being forced to cut off contact with someone who seemed like an ally, not to mention Heather as well after having just gotten to bond with her over fighting bad guys, even if she’s a bit arrogant about her abilities (but with a Salamence on her team, I don’t blame her).
And those are just my feelings as the player, out-of-character. In-character? Heck- this probably feels worse for Xera. Again, she doesn’t suspect him of having a connection to Team Meteor, and while I wouldn’t say she feels as close with him as she does other characters (relatively speaking, given the outwardly cold demeanor I’ve assigned to her), I’m sure she at least respects and trusts him to a degree. And again- bonding with his daughter over fighting bad guys! So to break Corey’s trust to such an extent that he forces her to cut ties with them, to lose that connection like this…gosh, that’s gotta hurt.
But she’s not in a position to argue, either, and not just because she’s a silent protagonist here. So…
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Man- the last two victories against Team Meteor had at least some sense of accomplishment or triumph to them, maybe bittersweet at worst (given what happened to Victoria last time). But this…I just feel sad, now. Just…Xera standing there, completely alone, only her Pokémon by her side at the end of the day…man.
But…with this, we should be able to access Beryl Ward now. And that, in turn, takes us one step closer to rescuing Victoria, hopefully. That’s what we should focus on- in-universe, I’m sure that notion will be what Xera takes some solace in.
Anyways, the sign in front of the Gym doesn’t give much info, just that this was the Jasper Ward Gym. But hey, with the vines cleared, we can finally go over and pick up that item!
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Fitting, given we just fought a Tangrowth. 
Now…let’s get out of this sad little forest, and back to sad little Jasper Ward and its sad little Pokémon Center.
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And I think we’ve made more than enough progress for one play session- more than I was expecting, honestly, but I’m not gonna complain. Thank you all once again for reading, next time we’ll finish up any business left remaining in Jasper Ward, then make our way to Beryl Ward and- maybe, depending on how long other possible events take- take on the other PULSE! 
Now that the creation process for these chapters has been greatly streamlined thanks to PicPick, progress and updates should be much more frequent from here on (barring any IRL things taking away free time). I’m really looking forward to that, I’m excited to keep going, and I hope you all are looking forward to it as well! So thanks again, and I’ll see you all in the next installment! Until then!
CURRENT TEAM:
Riptide
Species: Croconaw
Gender: Male
Level: 27
Ability: Sheer Force*
Item: Quick Claw
Brave nature; Alert to sounds.
Glare
Species: Arbok
Gender: Female
Level: 25
Ability: Intimidate
Item: Protective Pads
Naughty nature; Highly curious.
Prong
Species: Charjabug
Gender: Female
Level: 25
Ability: Battery
Item: None
Rash nature; Loves to eat.
Decibel
Species: Noibat
Gender: Female
Level: 25
Ability: Telepathy*
Item: None
Bashful nature; Often lost in thought.
Blizzard
Species: Snover
Gender: Male
Level: 25
Ability: Snow Warning
Item: None
Naive nature; Likes to thrash about.
Caldera
Species: Slugma
Gender: Female
Level: 25
Ability: Magma Armor
Item: Quick Claw
Jolly nature; Often scatters things.
CURRENT BOXES:
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Hello! Can i get a message from my sm please? I hope you're good 💗
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Hi! I heard a voice begin speaking when I saw this message today. Here’s what came up:
Hello love
How’re you this evening (thick non-posh British accent, smacking gum) Me? I’m alright. Just been bopping about town, getting up to some shenanigans. (Images of them like walking in a circle with their finger trailing on the table, it’s coming in circularly) You’re only young once you know. (Wearing black leather jacket, black jeans, very like throwback to the 50s vibe, black and white striped shirt) And I for one intend to live it up (very flirty). Just been partying a bit, having a good time (they come across as sort of manipulative, I feel like they’re avoiding something and are like walking around topics). Yeah maybe I am avoiding something but I don’t want to talk about it. I already know what to do. It’s a time thing. So yeah, it’s maybe eating me up inside a bit but it’s fine. I’ll get through it. (Avoiding emotions, do you do this too? I’m feeling like this is showing up to mirror something to you?)
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Their energy is super weird. Like smooth and serpentine. Like very much a person who knows how to maneuver people, but I think that energy is slicked over someone with some sort of deep pain going on beneath the surface, but they are hiding it behind this sly sort of charm. It was really weird to read them. I feel like this may be the energy of a person you will meet much later in life. The energy they are in now is very low vibe like player energy, very disconnected from their spirit which is why I think this connection is a ways off for you.
I think soon this person will be jolted into a different reality where they have to let this mask go. I think it felt so unsettling to me because their soul and their mask have some sort of karmic tie, like normally I see peoples souls or higher selves which is how they explain so much, but this one it’s like the higher self can’t come through fully. It’s somehow connected to this weird sly persona.
It took me a bit to get below it but below it is just this deep sadness, I’m not sure if someone died, they seem like the type who has never really had parents or any sort of support really. There’s this vast sadness I felt in them. That’s part of what ties them to the mask is this void they feel within, they don’t feel it when they pretend to be someone else. That’s why it felt so icky! This sly persona I don’t like energetically. It feels just slimy. It’s like they have two selves. The true self that’s hidden beneath the mask that is a character they created, I’m getting this character has a completely different name, like this person becomes someone else. Weird. It was such a strange feeling okay. It’s a survival tactic but I think soon they’re gonna begin working on connecting these two selves and doing the shadow and integration work they need to.
Card Pull
Work Your Light Oracle
It took a minute for this card to fly out so I think this is confirming what I’m saying about this weird connection between your person and this persona. Like they’re clinging to the persona and the universe is trying to whip it away. I think they’re scared of losing this part of themselves because it has kept them safe.
Transformation—things are changing at a cellular level. Deep healing.
Yeah this confirms to me what I’m saying that they are about to or are currently going though something that is making them transform. Like the fact I could get through to the soul at all shows that they are already doing some of the work, but something big and painful is coming on their path that is really gonna make them integrate the two. It will take this level of pain for the false mask to be destroyed. Kinda like how in cartoons you hit your head and lose your memory so if you hit it again, you get the memory back. It’s like this. To break the mask created by pain, the pain of the break must be equal.
How can K help their SM at this time?
Chakra Exploration Deck
These cards took a minute to come out so I’m feeling that you are not meant to focus on this person at this time but instead focus on yourself. This chakra and work that you do for you will also help your person, but do it for yourself.
Crown Chakra— where is despair and lack of faith showing up in your present reality?
Mantra: I possess unshakable faith in the divine hidden order around me. I cultivate hope that heals, inspires & births miracles into form.
So I’m getting that you need to work on trusting more in the goodness of life and that things can become better. This is blocking you from blessings. One of the ways you can work to heal this is by brightening up your living space, like go buy flowers and have plants in your house that you can watch grow and thrive, get a pet or volunteer with an animal organization. These can help you bring some hope to your life. Maybe paint as well.
Songs
This song came to mind while I was making this post
This came through during the transformation card
This came through at the very end of the reading
Some very interesting insights came up during this reading. I highlighted them. Thanks for the chance to read for you, K! Strange reading I know but would love to know how this connects at all.
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Hey just wanted to say that your reply was super sweet! I’m from the Netherlands (Hello country neighbour :D ) so it’s indeed getting colder, I assume it’s also getting colder in Germany so you should also make sure to dress warmer!
(also this is super long so feel free to ignore this)
anyway, here are my (not so coherent) thoughts about what the player would be god of for each dorm (this is super long so feel free to ignore!):
Heartslabyul – creation, honestly think it would match wonderland really well considering all the weird stuff they have there. Probably more of a mischievous god. I could imagine they stuck around the queen of hearts ‘cause she was a total weirdo and gave them a lot of ideas for things to create and player would give her the “advice” that inspired the rules in return. Also matches the unique magic of some dorm members I think, carter who creates clones, trey who switches properties (changes things, I mean to create things you have to have to test and try different things right?) and riddle who takes away magic (their ability to create? Kind of at least) also although it isn’t UM deuce constantly making pots matches too lmao. I could also see them sticking around ace and deuce because they constantly get involved in dumb shit and they would think it’s entertaining.
Savanaclaw - I was thinking war, victory/strategy & justice. Obviously justice because they are supposed to be a symbol of equality and someone who will protect the weak, that’s also why I picked war cause they will fight for the people and their rights and sometimes blood is shed to reach a happy end. Then I was thinking between victory and strategy, personally I was leaning towards victory because it would be ironic considering Leona is always complaining about losing and being in second place lmao. Also it fits the saying “Justice will prevail” I mean that basically says “justice will be victorious” right? But maybe that’s a bit too much tho, I think strategy would also work well considering how it ties in with war and Leona probably would really respect someone that is very strategic. I would like to imagine them playing chess and Leona being on the verge of ripping his hair out lmao. Jack would probably respect strategy more and Ruggie victory so I’m at a loss. Maybe just having both could work but I feel like that would be giving them too many attributes at that point.
For Octavinelle I had two ideas, the first one would be space considering they united the land and the sea and connected those two places in even if it’s in a metaphorical way. With an attribute like that they would probably have a lot of knowledge about the universe (earth, outerspace and nature too probably) so I think it would fit the scholar title as well. It also matches nicely to diasomnia’s time.
Second, I was thinking luck, change and charisma. Luck mainly as a character foil for azul who has always mainly relied on skill and trickery too achieve his goals. Change because like before they united the sea and the land which probably brought huge changes too both places. It would also match well with luck because it would make them basically a living version of the butterfly effect what is kind of what led to both Ursula’s and Azul’s downfall, a small action leading too catastrophe. And last I had charisma again because the unification, but also ‘cause it playes a big part in how people view you, you could have average intelligence but if you have a lot of charisma you could probably convince them you are a genius. It’s also something I feel azul desperately wants to be so once again it makes a good foil to azul.
Scarabia - would probably add wisdom because without one you can not properly utilize the other and all that jazz you know?
For Pomefiore I would add craftmanship ‘cause it really adds to that perfection incarnate image, I mean someone who is pretty, kind and talented/skilled? Sign me up. (and i felt bad because the others are either op or have 3 attributes.)
Ignihyde - beginnings and endings, I think it would work really well conceptually. I remember you said the player was also worshipped by Hades, and thanks to the start of life you have the end of life (death), which matches Hades. Thanks to the end of winter you have the beginning of spring which matches Perpesone. Without beginnings and endings, they wouldn’t have anything to be gods over so they would probably worship someone that rules over those things. Also It kind of matches them being a symbol of progress because it through failures “endings” and then trying again that you can improve. As a sidenote I could also see Idia becoming a Diasomnia-like worshipper after the thing that happens with ortho considering he basically had a new beginning...
And Diasomnia as time makes perfect sense to me tbh, but I could see chaos matching as well considering in Greek myth that’s the origin of everything and chaos was often predicted as a dragon/serpent. But other Greek myths say it’s Chronos (the god of time) that was first, so…
Anyways that was all, sorry for the long read but I hope you enjoyed it. Would like to hear your thoughts, also make sure to eat and sleep well! And drink plenty of water!
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Aww Anon. Caring so much about me I think I'm getting shy.
But these are great headcanons. I would say that they are pretty accurate since they also fit what we know about the villains. And about that Pomfiore thing, I don't think that gods of craftmanship are weak. Let us remember pandora's box. She was a creation of Hephaestus and many other gods but in the end craftsmanship gave her a body. You can do a lot with a small thing as long as you know what to do with it.
This is all so fun! I hope I can hear more of your ideas!
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PRINCE OF SPACE
Active (-)
Passive - Bard of Space
Inverse - Sylph of Time
Princes are an active destruction class and can be simplified to "destroyer of (aspect)" or "one who destroys via (aspect)." Space is one of the cardinal aspects, acting as the complimentary to Time. Without a Space player, a new universe cannot be made. Makes for a fun dichotomy when you mix a class of destruction with the aspect of creation itself. And just as a preface, just because a destruction class has one of the cardinal aspects doesn’t mean the session is screwed or they’re dooming the whole thing. Destruction is not always a bad thing!
Princes generally don’t have a great relationship with their aspect, holding some level of distaste or even animosity towards it. Princes need to accept that their aspect has its place and to destroy only what is necessary to utilize it to its fullest potential. The other part is the internal struggle of egotism. They may be incredibly self-deprecating and hold themselves to impossible standards or, on the flip side, domineering and conceited, always believing they know best and that nobody is as capable as they are. The key is learning to balance their destruction as well as their ego.
Space is one of the cardinal aspects and is related to Beginnings. It is Creation itself, tied to Propagation, Birth, Parenthood, and cultivating Life. It is also Substance, everything Tangible and Physical, including Physical Form. Space also deals with Isolation and Loneliness, being either literal physical distance or some form of distance from societal expectations/norms. It is linked to Patience and falling back, knowing, and waiting for the right moment to strike. Other things connected heavily to Space is Physics, Arts, and Destiny.
An idea of a Prince of Space’s personality might be like this: I think the Prince could be a pessimistic sort, or a strict realist. They may stubbornly stick to tried-and-true ways which, while it has its uses, they may be bluntly dismissive of innovation and creative approaches and not give them a chance. This could make them come across as cold and logical, disregarding of imagination. Some Princes of Space may be a creative sort – but a destructive kind. I can see them defacing property and things with graffiti or sticking with art practices that is meant to be temporary, things that get destroyed eventually. Practices like street painting, sand mandalas, ice sculptures, sandcastles, edible art…. Etc. Or maybe they destroy their own artwork, out of frustration, wanting to recycle it, or some other reason! There’s lots of ways to still have an art-driven Prince of Space! I can see some being a former artist too, abandoning it out of feeling like they weren’t good enough – and that may be a reason for their distaste for creativity.
They may be a messy and disorganized person, ‘destroying’ their own literal Space with clutter and stuff scattered everywhere. I can see them being rather impatient as well, hasty in how they act instead of stopping to wait and see the bigger picture. They could be overly focused on results and end up stressing out immensely if the process is not as smooth as they expected. Depending on the state of their ego, if they’re in a position of authority they may be demanding of having things done in a very strict way and conforming to their expectations.
Contrary to a lot of what I’ve seen, I could see a Prince of Space being a very efficient frog breeder! The Prince isn’t going to screw the session by just existing near frogs, remember that a Prince’s destruction is intentional and controlled. An over-embracing Prince of Space would be the exception because over embracing Princes slide into the dangerous territory of being one on a one-track path of destroying their aspect entirely – and frogs in Sburb are the very symbol of Space and Creation itself. There’s a lot of ways their frog breeding quest could go, but I’d saying something that ties into balancing destruction would be perfect. Maybe they need to carefully trim the frog population down as it is out of control, or maybe their land itself is incredibly overgrown and cannot even reach the frogs, or having to carefully destroy any cancerous or imperfect frogs… etc.
At worst, the Prince could be a rigid traditionalist, resisting innovation and imagination itself. They may be misanthropic or hold views of philosophical pessimism and end up greatly reclusive and secluding themselves from others. They could end up being very apathetic and cold to others, looking down on everyone else and thinking they are the only one who sees things for how ‘they really are.’ They may be resistant to change of any kind and end up stagnating.
As far as what could be the reason behind the Prince’s distaste for Space, it could be many things. Space forms their world view, values, no matter how hard they try to push away and deny it. They may be frightened of the loneliness and isolation of Space, despising how it makes them feel so alone in the world. They may be bitter over perceived failure as an artist, taking their frustrations out on creativity itself. Are they confused over what all of Space entails? How broad and unending it is? There are many reasons why the Prince rejects Space, but ultimately, they need to learn to accept its place or else they slip into the dangerous path of over-embracing.
I’ve mentioned over-embracing earlier but that is what happens when a Prince wholly rejects their aspect. They do not care who they hurt, what they’re destroying, if it embodies their aspect, they want it GONE. They may not even realize just how severe the consequences of this can be, and that is what makes over-embracing so dangerous for a destruction class. Destruction can be good when it is controlled. A Prince who over-embraces throws that out the window entirely. Their aspect is the enemy and will destroy everything in their path for their goal. This is where I think ghosting comes into play, by destroying Space, Time is left in its wake. An excess of aspect is not good, they’re all supposed to be balanced out!
Under-embracing is not good either, but it is not as devastating as over-embracing. Too afraid to wield their destroyer powers, they stagnate and end up doing nothing. They become oddly passive and very restrictive of themselves, ending up very weak for a Prince. Princes are meant to DESTROY; they are supposed to be reducing and deleting through their aspect or erasing their aspect! This Prince fails to do either and in doing so, fails in their quest. Destruction has its purposes, and they are not all bad. Destroying can allow opportunities for growth, rebuilding, and improving the very thing they destroyed! Sometimes you must destroy something to make it even better than it was before.
If they can become a True Prince of Space, I can see them being much more accommodating of unconventional approaches and even coming up with some wild plans themself! They learn that at times, waiting pays off exponentially more than just jumping in guns blazing. They can properly utilize what they’ve always known and what they’ve learned to finely hone their wielding of Space, being a force that knows exactly when to strike at the most crucial moment – ending it all in a big bang of flashy devastation. There’s so, so many posts about what kind of powers a Prince of Space might have so I won’t really touch on it; but just know that I believe they’re an incredibly frightening force to be reckoned with!
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Genshin Impact Traveler analysis/theory: What we know part 1 (Names)
I just started playing Genshin Impact and, you know me, I must analyze and theorize at least a tiny bit about this. I probably won’t write much for this game since there is already so much information out there that I am having to get caught up on. Anyway, I wanted to analyze and theorize a bit about our travelers, Lumine and Aether. I intend to look at them both in their positions as protagonist and member of the Abyss Order. I will try to stay unbiased since I rather like both characters in both positions and who is who is decided by each player individually.  Also, this is gonna be a series because doing this as one post was just too long. This will be under the cut for length and potential spoilers.
The traveler, unsurprisingly, has different names for each localization. Interestingly, these names typically reflect the same or at least a similar meaning. So for the Chinese version their names are, according to the Genshin Impact wiki,  Kōng ( 空) for the guy and Yíng (荧)  for the girl. I used Google translate, not the best translation so correct me if I am wrong on these meanings, to find out a vague name meaning. Kōng can apparently be a noun or an adjective. As a noun it means air, sky or leisure. As an adjective it means bare or in vain. Yíng can also be a noun or adjective but it has way more meanings. As a noun it means glimmering. As an adjective it can mean fluorescent, alluring, amazing, astounding, baffled, bewildered, confounded, confused, dazzling, glittering, or glittery. In the Japanese version the guy is named Sora (空) and the girl is named Hotaru (蛍). Sora mirrors the Chinese name meanings well since it means sky, emptiness, or void. I’m pretty sure sky is the more common meaning but I am not positive. Hotaru means firefly and I think the Japanese have some firefly symbolism but I genuinely have no idea what that may be. The other languages are simply a version of the English names so we have come down to Aether (the guy) and Lumine (the girl). Aether is sort of interesting, it has several basic meanings. In Greek Mythology Aether was the Primordial god of light and the bright, blue ether of the heavens . This god did have a sister/wife known as Hemera who was the primordial goddess of day which could me a Lumine connection but could also just be a coincidence. In chemistry aether was a medium that was once thought to fill all space and support the propagation of electromagnetic waves. In medical or archaic science aether was the material that filled the region of the universe above earth. Aether was also thought of as the fifth element used to explain several phenomena such as the traveling of light and gravity. Thus, Aether has a name meaning that ties in nicely to the siblings unexplained ability to travel the universe. Finally in the Japanese philosophy of Godai, aether is a fifth element which can loosely be described as void. It represents things beyond yet with our everyday comprehension. In fictional tales its name was invoked to connect to the quintessential creative energy of the world.  Lumine is a bit tougher. Lumine is an obsolete verb that means to illuminate. There is also the Latin word, “lūmine,” which means “the light.” So Aether, as I shall call him from now on, always has a name linking him to the sky and emptiness. Lumine always has a name linking her to light or illumination with firefly being a slight but adorable outlier that does still have light connotations. 
Just based on their names Aether seems like a good fit for the Abyss order sibling. I mean come on, emptiness and the void? Abysses are typically void-like and empty. Nonetheless, there is still a lot to look at. However, Lumine was difficult to analyze for this part. I really wish I could have found out firefly symbolism but I couldn’t so make of it what you will.
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Love Reading 🤤- October 2023 - Cancer
Singles:
Overall energy: Queen of Wands
How you will meet: 9 Pentacles
How they will treat you: King of Pentacles & 7 Wands
Long-term Potential: The Sun
What a difficult connection. You two are both weird with money. You’ve pulled the narcissist card, but I don’t get that from either of you. Self-absorbed and/or selfish, probably. Greedy, likely. Vanity & superficiality on some level. Inflated egos. Narcissistic traits, again I don’t get that per se, but kinda. Traits* It’s all tied in with career & finances. You know them better than I do. You two argue over money, who makes what, who contributes this or that, you or they may value the whole worth of a person based on their career, material possessions, superficial things. That seems to be you, but it’s both of you, it’s the relationship between you. You pulled the message, they’re King of Pentacles, money is their language.
They want to cling onto their independence. “I’m a strong & independent whoever that don’t need no person”, yet they’re trying to be your person, except not. Yes but no. We can be single, together? Possibly some kind of friends with benefits situation, or you could be “the lover” in this connection, showing up as Queen of Wands. I do get you blowing this out of the water 💯 They could be a player type, greedy, they could use people and discard them, like tissues. Then you came along and went “I don’t think so”. Or you will. There is some situation involving friends or multiple dating interests that you’re going to stop immediately if they even want to bat an eye your way, and this could be a whole battle, you’re not putting up with their crap. Kudos to you ❤️
Now either this person is already involved, and you’re the lover, or they have major reservations and fears surrounding commitment, marriage, the merging of finances whatsoever. What’s theirs is theirs, very protective, stingy, cheap even, someone extremely concerned with security. Has to be an earth sign or they have some dominating placements there. They could fear separating from a spouse because of money, for the lover story. You’re going to change that too. It’s looking like your argument is no money, no commitment, either they’re merging bank accounts AND souls, or keep it moving buddy.
Funny enough, long term is ultimate happiness, The Sun, followed by mutual romantic love. This person could be a soulmate, and 4 Wands following can show a wedding, moving in, whatever it is, it’s serious. They’re going to commit to you and do whatever you want. With their messages, they never expected you to be “the one”, whereas you seemed to know immediately. Keep the narcissist warning in the back of your mind I guess, I feel like I’d get worse cards if that were the case, and for some that may be true, they seem to have isms. Traits. Bad behaviors. Could be learned, from family or other people in their life idk. You don’t seem to have a hard time keeping them in check. I mean…those kind of people are everywhere, they have relationships too, this could just be showing not to let your guard down when it comes to any selfish behavior, keep putting them in their place when necessary, and you’re fine 💚
Messages -
Their side:
- I have to figure out what I want.
- This was only temporary for me.
Your side:
- Hiding Finances 🤫
- Love at First Sight 🧡
Oracles -
You are a child of the universe 💫
THE GOLDEN MIRROR
- Narcissist
- Love Bombing
- Self-Absorbed
- One-Sided
Signs you may be dealing with:
Cancer, Capricorn, Taurus, Aries, Aquarius & Leo
Couples:
Overall energy: The Fool
Current: The Tower rev
Challenge: The Hierophant rev
How they feel about you: 5 Wands
How you feel about them: Knight of Swords
Outcome: The Devil rev
You two are going to be at each other’s throats a bit this month. I’m guessing you’re the one defending yourself or catching your person in some bs, and they have a rather sharp tongue in response. I don’t know what they’re doing but you’ve found something suspicious, messages maybe, a flirty comment on some model’s Instagram, something like that. I don’t see it going far and you are on to their shit 💯 Immediately. You see them as having other options and you’re avoiding even dealing with that, you’re bringing it to light the second you see it. There will be no gaslighting in Cancer’s house, you know what you saw.
Separately, you two could be embarking on some new project and you’re cleverly maneuvering and researching, really the one putting the work into whatever this is. One of you is extremely busy. It’s like you don’t have faith in your person to “handle” anything. Just you, you got it, all of it? This could be relating to children, the home, repairs, anything practical. Which is kind of a diss at them, you don’t see them as capable, responsible, or making good financial decisions. By the same token, you could be running everything on your own and that’s exhausting, or they are, either side. There’s no follow-through on any commitments, or someone isn’t serious enough about getting shit done, there’s a huge imbalance between you.
They feel you’re extremely argumentative because of whatever you’re saying to them. Queen of Swords rev comes out to show one pissed off person, there is no hesitation in letting this person know how you feel about whatever they’re doing. If they’re not helping you, you’re biting their head off about it. If it’s not something super serious, maybe mind how you say things, you’re coming off as really harsh to this person. Could be justified though. You see them as equally harsh in communication. You do love this person and want a fresh slate to make up for whatever you did. Or they did. One of you sees a problem and tackles it before it gets worse, not putting up with that anger or popping off, they’re fixing it. Whatever you’re doing is working 💯
Outcome is The Devil rev, whatever is toxic will be released and overcome, it’s clarified by 10 Pentacles AND 10 Cups, this is beautiful. You’ll be going back and forth on whether you two can do something brand new, have a new beginning, work together, and it’s going to be heated at times, and I see you full on flipping out, but YES. Afterwards. It will work out well. Whatever you’re saying could be needing to be said, it looks like you’re under a lot of pressure, and you’re looking at this other person like “what the fk?” Probably have to flat out say it for them to get the hint, but it looks like they’re willing to do/help out with whatever you want, once you point out…what feels like a lack of gratitude? Commitment? And cut out these extra people, Insta models, or whatever they’re on that pisses you off. Goodbye to all that.
Messages -
Their side:
- Too many people involved
- I need SPACE
- I won’t go backwards, only forwards
Your side:
- Soothing Presence 😌
- I’m exhausted with this 😴
- You are the YIN to my YANG ☯️
Oracles - Choose the path of nope today.
Their side:
THE BUTTERFLY 🦋
- Evolving & Growth
- Next Phase
- Healing Inner Child
- Releasing the Past
Your side:
CUT DOWN 🪓
- Cutting Out
- Separation
- Stop the Pattern
- Silent Treatment
Signs you may be dealing with:
Scorpio, Capricorn, Leo, Pisces & Aries
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Constructive Stories: Belief You Can Succeed and An individual Will!
A true champion. There isn't an uncertainty about it, if you're a real champion' my school tutor and coach, Mr Wilson, would claim with conviction. These encouraging words strengthened my belief that I was undertaking something unique because captain from the under-nine Seaford State University Australian Rules Basketball team. Despite my size, That i knew our strengths. When I got hold of typically the ball, no 1 could catch myself. Like the breeze, I'd run that ball to typically the goal square within a flash by anywhere on the field. The trouble was, I was the particular world's worst give up and had no way of knowing the location where the ball might finish up once it remaining my boot. I actually countered this inclination to 'spray' the ball by aiming to kick the goals a foot away from the goal posts instructions or setting a person else up to kick them for me. No-one looked like to notice this kind of serious shortcoming because I kept obtaining the scores on the particular board. In their eyes I had been an authentic champion. My partner and i fervently shared their very own belief. A second-rate player. But with David Stelling in the soccer field, it was a new different story. They were resigned to the fact that he was the rotten kick and even he knew that everyone else experienced the same way about him too. No matter exactly how hard he tried, the ball just never seemed to go where he wanted it to. Because of this he could just ever be a second-rate striker. David recalls your day he was sitting for the bench as 12th man in the particular inter-club semi-finals along with little chance associated with playing within the complement. At the ending of a nail-biting second half, both teams were tied up with two points each. This needed a new penalty shoot-out of an alternate 5 leg techinques each team. The pressure was such that regardless of superhuman efforts by both sides, not any one could crack through. Required to turn to get more info . As a winner should be established throughout a finals match, the five-kick penalty shoot-out needed to be recurring. What's more, the same player can't have got two goes within the main one sequence thus, as David put it, 'They had been forced to consider the dregs. ' It was together with a pounding cardiovascular that he walked on to typically the pitch as being the team's last-ditch effort. Just about all eyes were on him when he leaped in to kick the ball. The thought ran through the head, 'You watch me botch this specific. ' And faithful to form, his feet dug deep in the turf just while he connected using the ball. Planning on an explosive test to breach his defence, the hockey goalie was already spread- eagled to prevent it. But the ball had other suggestions. It lazily skewered sideways and, to the utter wonder of everybody, dribbled past the desperate clutches of typically the defender and straight into the net. A new match-winning hero. Typically the crowd went completely beserk and Jesse was chaired off of the field as a match-winning hero, his wobbly kicks associated with the past immediately forgotten. In their eyes, this specific penalty shot seemed to be one for that history books. A master stroke of large genius - plus they never let him forget it. Jesse Stelling now had a fine reputation to live up to. They were a champ kick plus a semi-finals winner! The following season, not only would he captain the team to success, he also won the particular club's Best and Fairest award. Jesse learnt two points from this experience: an individual don't have to be able to become the best to be a winner, and you most certainly are just what you believe you will be.
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I absolutely love this alvin line in chapter 2, he says “He made a turn into telling stories as a means to entertain his children. That such a story, created for such a simple purpose, could blossom into such a large, wonderful, world changing thing. That is the majesty of words, kris.” I feel like this is regarding the game and how this story has turned into something that really means a lot to so many players. Which While I believe this theme is tied to the story it could also be Toby giving us a little thank you as well.
OH I totally forgot about that line but it’s so good.. ok I wasn’t going to elaborate but now I will lol. Not super long
Like you said, I think this is a story about stories and how they affect not just the fictional characters but the real people experiencing them. One phrase that is interesting to me relating to this theme is “the pen is mightier than the sword”.. if gerson was an author who uses “pens” and a knight usually uses “swords”, I think the knight is a storyteller more than a warrior. the act of creating a dark world is like creating a new story with characters who have retroactive histories (darkners). And you have the option to escape into fictional worlds, but the healthy thing to do most of all, is to live your real life while also taking valuable lessons from the fiction you love. Like how Susie learns about friendship from her dark world experiences, and has finally started reach out to others in her everyday life because of that! But she hasn’t yet realized that these two worlds can’t coexist if the dark is as powerful as or more powerful than the light, or else everyone will suffer. (In-universe, the roaring.. and as a metaphor for reality, you shut yourself away from real connections in favor of fantasy.) And hopefully kris will learn how to live for themself too. (Themself.. and their friends!!)
That’s why I think the point of this story is definitely not to make us feel bad for playing a game. In-universe, it seems that Gaster is connecting with real people so that we can finish the story. Maybe he wants us to help the people he considers “very very wonderful.” Nobody can move on with their lives until it’s finished, especially kris, and most of all the primary storyteller Toby himself, who has been trying to share this story he’s clearly passionate about for years!!😅
but of course “there’s something more important than reaching the end:” the memories and friends we made along the way that we can take with us into the future, and change the world.. Yay🤠
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