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demonsfate · 30 days

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Theorizing some more so bare with me but I wonder if there used to exist more devils? Like back during Azazel's reign, I wonder if there used to be far more than just two (or three now I guess) devils.

in this ancient depiction, we see two devils along with Azazel. (Also note how they appear naked? Another reason why I don't believe Angel Jin and True Devil Kazuya are wearing armor). Humans are bowing to Azazel, which implicates this is when Azazel ruled the earth.

Here we see somebody (a Mishima?) fight a devil that resembles Azazel... but they appear to be four headed. This might be a higher up Devil, hence it's unique form compared to the others devils, and the fact it looks more like Azazel.

The warrior has been shown to have slain this demon(?).

Another devil the Mishimas are fighting. This one looks very similar to Kazuya's devil form, interestingly enough. Except this one may have had an older host (see the gray eyebrows and beard). This may match my previous theory that every devil has a destined purpose, and this devil's could've been similar to Kazuya's devil - hence why he has a similar appearance.

There's nothing that really indicates that there's an abundance of devils running around at once. Buuuut... it would make sense if Azazel was a leader, he'd have more than a few servants around at a time. It would also make sense as to why we ended up with so many humans that can combat against demons. We have the Mishimas who were apparently devil hunters. We have Claudio's exorcist group. We have the Kazamas who possess a power to subdue the devil within. Iirc, all of these groups / clans seem to have existed for centuries. Along with the Hachijo clan (who are devil gene carriers.)

I also believe that Eliza is a devil / something from Azazel, too. Maybe in the Tek universe, vampires are a branch of Devils (such as a four headed devil apparently existing). Because she REALLY does have a lot of similarities with devils when you look at her. The golden eyes (something Devil Jin had in renders for some reason, and Unknown had them.) The taste for blood (Devil Jin loved eating people). She may lack wings, but she has horns and those black markings (seriously, I don't recall many vampires in other medias having horns)? Her color scheme is similar to Devil Jin's, too. (Granted those are typical goth colors) To top it all off, she has beef with Claudio's exorcist group, too. Sirius or whatever the fuck they're called. And y'know... they're usually known for going after devils. Eliza appears to be immortal being 1000+ years old and having no aged. Meanwhile, devil gene carriers (Jin and Kazuya) seem to age normally. But.. again, she could be a different kind of devil. Maybe a stronger one / one that doesn't depend on a human - born body considering Azazel is also likely thousands of years old.

So I think that perhaps there used to be lots of devils, varying of different types, that were essentially Azazel's servants or soldiers. But then humanity entered a war with devils when they decided to rebel against Azazel. Killing most of the devils in this war with the exception of Eliza, and some Hachijo clan members.

With the exception of 8, ever since 6, Devil Jin has always had a knight outfit. This also makes me feel that this represents that devils were indeed servants / warriors, and that there might've been some war between humans and devils that broke out centuries ago when humanity overthrew Azazel...

#✏️ - ᴛʜᴇ ʜᴏsᴛ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴛʜᴇ ᴍᴏsᴛ // (ooc)

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kiruliom · 7 months

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goth from boyfriends NPTs because I am so normal (some are silly since the series itself is silly)

names: Felix, Mortis, Coffin, Leo, Ace, Max, Prince, Ozzy, Vlad, Umbriel, Lucifer, Azazel, Azrael, Aslan, Saber, Lynx, Salem, Tommy, Kedi

pronouns: goth/goths/gothself, cri/cross/crosself, claw/claws/clawself, edge/edgy/edgyself, dee/dark/darkself, 🖤/🖤s/🖤self, 🐈‍⬛/🐈‍⬛s/🐈‍⬛self, x/xs/xself, ×/×s/×self

titles: the gaymer, the lover of darkness, prn who loves you to death, prns edginess, prn who listens to metal (or goth, emocore or punk), prn who only plays support, the emo streamer, the art student

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bathalafiction · 1 year

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So Lucifer's POV on the MC's different personalities.

Godsin, My tsundere manic pixie girlfriend

Azazel, My big 🍈🍈 goth GF

Captian, My Girlboss/Waifu.

The devil will die if Azazel ever hears of this

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commenter2 · 4 months

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"Dad Beat Dad" episode review

Charlie and the gang meet Lucifer. Spoilers!

It’s cute getting confirmation that Charlie and Vaggie sleep in the same bed. You think since this is Charlie, they’d sleep in separate rooms or beds…only for Charlie to feel lonely and ask Vaggie if she could sleep with her XD.

Though small, it’s nice to see Charlie admit that she isn’t okay with something, instead of trying to make it sound like she isn’t and everything is fine like she usually does.

The string on Charlie’s wall is shaped like a star. Fun symbolism or more?

He, Charlie drew Angel as an actual spider.

Another new power for Charlie, when she gets emotional she can make the ground shake. Could this be another thing related to that Hellquake Blitzo felt in the Cherub episode!

Fingers crossed that there is more to Lucifer allowing the Exterminations to happen.

Again fun to hear Charlie curse, and I think we saw a bit of her mom’s side there.

I’m liking Charlie’s thinking about asking the other higher ups of Heaven for a meeting. Shows she can find alternate ways to things and goes back to my thing about how Adam could do this so quickly and my “Charlie is being tested” theory.

I hope your right Charlie about angels wanting to help, or at least will LATER in the series. Again I think it be cool if Jesus Christ allied with Charlie later on.

On Charlie’s phone you can see several contacts like 2 demons like Amon (a marquis goetia of life and reproduction) and Azazel (which was a place people left scapegoats representing their sins before becoming a demon who gave humans forbidden knowledge) and Cyhyraeth, a thing from Welsh mythology, adding more to my “Heaven/Hell inspiring other myths” :)

Wait split? LIKE DIVORCED? DAMMMIT WHY WRITERS! Or by split could Charlie have meant Lilith’s 7 years of being missing? I’m kind of hoping that this isn’t the first time Lucifer and Lilith have gotten “divorced”, and it’s a healthy thing for their kind of relationship, and Charlie doesn’t realize this because she is still “young”.

So Charlie has daddy issues in that she just wants some actual father/daughter time with her father. Hopefully she does here.

Good call on taking away Niffty’s knife Angel.

CHARLIE HAD A GOTH PHASE! :3 XD

So it looked like Lucifer, Lilith, and Charlie were a happy family back then. I’m hoping Charlie wasn’t the reason her parents split, nor anything similar to what Stolas and Stella had.

I’ve talked about the VAs for the show previously, but it was only because it was the beginning of the show and I don’t usually mind such stuff (in fact Angel’s voice has gotten better since the first episode and I bet Jeremy Jordan will to) but out of all the thoughts I have about them, the biggest one that I will always defend is that Lucifer SHOULD have had a Mark Hamill’s Joker like voice. I mean that is PERFECT for this character as Lucifer looks both scary AND funny and who fits that more than the DCAU Joker. It likely would have helped with the fandom too as apparently a lot of people don’t like HH’s Lucifer because he is so goofy. What if as a compromise, Lucifer’s full demon form sounds Joker like? Would you have liked for him to have such a voice?

Baby pic of Charlie!

Also a pic of Fredrick von Eldritch, and you can see a glimpse of Charlie’s prom pic with Seviathan, likely hinting that we could see the von Eldritch family next season.

Lucifer got sad when looking at the pic, meaning he misses Lilith, Charlie, or both. Please let it be both. WAIT HE STILL HAS HIS WEDDING RING!

YES LUCIFER’S A GOOD DAD!

Though he’s probably doing it out of nervousness, I feel like Lucifer’s attitude about not wanting Charlie to see Heaven is a bit related to my headcanon of him not wanting his daughter to become a target.

I like how Angel smiled when Charlie said her redemption dream meant a lot to her, showing that he is valuing that she cares for him. Also points for Vaggie for comforting Charlie during the call :)

That look of pain Lucifer had when Charlie said Heaven would listen if she talked to them, reminds me of a thing I said in a previous review about how Lucifer was in Charlie shoes millennia ago and knowing what Heaven will do, doesn’t want Charlie to go through it.

Vaggie entering Exorcist Warrior mode!

Razzle and Dazzle cameo. I’m guessing the sign they’re carrying was made by Angel.

(See’s Alastor looking at sign) Uh oh trouble is here XD.

That scene of Niffty scaring Angel got me thinking, you think Angel ever gives her makeup tips? I could see that leading to them getting on friendlier terms.

Really glad to see Lucifer being a nice and supportive dad, even if he has no idea what Charlie is trying to do.

The fact Lucifer didn’t instantly destroy Alastor shows he has restraint, that or he is doing it for his daughter. Either way cool.

Oh Lucifer’s jealous XD. Alastor can't help but cause trouble, can he XD.

Someone pointed it out, but I am surprised that there haven’t been that many big moments between Charlie and Vaggie being a couple. At least there are to make it clear that they are together, and its better then how Helluva Boss hammers in the eventually Blitzo and Stolas relationship, no offense to Stolitz fans.

While the “not knowing Charlie’s bi” thing did worry me for a second, mostly because of what I said in my Charlie and Vaggie trailer breakdown, it would have been worse if Lucifer was a bad dad. Luckily he isn’t and it is great knowing that it didn’t affect how much he really loves Charlie, doesn’t hate humans/sinners, and instantly likes Vaggie.

Illusion of mini Lucifer’s. Chibi Lucifers? Does this mean my Chibi Lilith idea could happen!

Iconic Golden fiddACORDIAN!

MIMZY! YES WE WERE WAITING FOR YOU!

They got the voice of Spinel for her cool. It also sounds a lot like I was imagining, very DCAU Harley Quinn meets 1920sesque stereotypical voice. Small note but I hope we hear her call Alastor puddin one day XD.

It was always a known that she loved money and such, but the Mammon tattoo on her back is a bit concerning. Then there is that look Mimzy gave about “dropping by”.

For a minute there I thought Mimzy was going to try and flirt with Lucifer. That would have ended badly, though I would mind seeing someone else try and do it. A bit off topic but I’m kind of hoping such a thing happens when Lilith is also in the room and a jealous Lilith embarrasses the lady XD.

Got some interesting character designs in Mimzy’s story like a sinner as a couch, one with a mirror for a face (likely symbolizing she was a copycat or very vain about her looks, an Anubis guy (remind me of the female mummy/pharaoh from pilot) and one that looks like Sally from Nightmare Before Christmas. I also feel some of those Overlords Alastor took out are refences like that girl in the alleyway gives off Penumbra from “Villainous vibes, that one aquatic demon reminds me of the Von Eldritch family with a mix of Baxter/Glitz and Glam (maybe she was Fredrick or Bethesda’s great aunt), the doctor looking like Invader Zim’s Professor Membrane, and that long hair demon looks familiar too.

So Mimzy is there for selfish reasons.

“Guy showing a sample of how powerful he really is” trope.

In Charlie’s defense Lucifer, those are hellborn demons attacking so it is different. Again they really should consider not clumping sinners and hellborn demons together in the same category.

I think Lucifer’s speech to Charlie is also him complaining about something else.

Alastor is GIGANTIFIED! At least my idea of my OC Astro having a Megazord form isn’t as crazy as it sounds now.

I’m also surprised that Lucifer didn’t try fighting the Loan Sharks to impress Charlie.

Ooo I sense some big Charlie and Lucifer moments coming up.

I really hope the writers use Alastor’s offer of Mimzy returning to change as a way to make her a main character later on.

Heh look at Mimzy storming off, cute and hilarious.

Baby Charlie with baby crown :3

Lilith! Did they really have to not show her face at this point? Could it be related to the “Lilith imposter” theory?

Ugh it looks like Lilith and Lucifer ARE divorced and have been for a long time. Again WHY WRITERS. At least they seem to be on good terms. Plus again “Lilith imposter” theory.

It’s nice to know that Charlie did learn something from her father despite them not being so close.

This song, so pure, so beautiful!

Are they in an actual place in hell, or does Lucifer have access to small dimensions to do stuff like this?

Looks like Charlie no longer has daddy issues :)

WAIT so does this mean the popular fan theory of “Lucifer creating the Extermination so Heaven would be okay with him and Lilith having Charlie” is wrong? Knowing these kinds of shows, maybe Lucifer is hiding that info from Charlie and when she does find out, it makes her mad at him and strains their relationship once again…for a short time.

We’re going to see what Heaven is like! At least in ways not seen in those early released HH trading cards.

Okay Vaggie being nervous about going to Heaven definitely confirms that she is a former Exorcist.

THIS WAS THE BEST HAZBIN HOTEL EPISODE YET!

I’m SOOOO glad Lucifer while flawed, isn’t a bad father like those we’ve seen in Helluva Boss. I’d say he outranks them all. It’s also great to know that while he can be goofy, he can still have more personality and serious emotion, like not wanting Charlie to go through the same pain he went through with Heaven. Now let’s hope Lilith (the TRUE Lilith) is just as good as a parent too.

It was also great to see Mimzy in the episode, which I think we all expected since I recall Vivzie saying she was going to be in a big episode and I’m glad she was, especially before spoilers started appearing on YouTube. From the voice to her attitude, she is a lot like I was expecting and I hope she gets a bigger role in the future. I can also now work on posting this funny pic I’ve had related to her that I’ve been holding onto for some time so stay tuned for that.

Then there is, in my opinion, the episode's only but BIG FLAW of finding out that Lucifer and Lilith are no longer together. It’s another predictable plot point (at least to me), it’s another example of how Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss are TOO SIMILAR to each other, and just overall a really, REALLY big bummer to see and hear about, especially after all the pics and quotes from Vivziepop about how much Lucifer and Lilith love each other.

LUCKILY I have mentioned a dozen ideas in past works for how the writers could fix this/make this work AND be a good thing story wise, from how this is a natural cycle in Lucifer and Lilith's relationship to how it’s the equivalent of a night on the couch to Lucifer, my favorite so far would have to be the “Lilith imposter” theory that has been going around.

As the name implies, someone or something is pretending to be Lilith as part of an evil plan so what if to defend Charlie and Hell (also cause they feared the idea of Lucifer having a child with someone who isn’t his actual wife) Lilith (and maybe even Lucifer) got divorced so the imposter wouldn’t get their hands on some seriously big info about Hell and Heaven, and even though it PAINED BOTH OF THEM to do it, they realized it was the right call.

This could lead to a future story where when after the imposter is finally revealed and/or captured/killed, Lucifer and Lilith get REMARRIED! I have this idea somewhere about how Charlie always wanted to plan her parent’s wedding, and this could make such a thing happen. You have to agree that this would make for an awesome “just for fun” episode. Maybe one where they are safe enough to have another kid, THAT would be crazy and I LOVE IT! I’m hopeful that this could happen, and I hope there are other fans out there too. Until we find out more about what is going on, my only choice is to pull a Red vs. Blue Sarge and blame the few fans who liked the divorced idea before the episode came out XD.

Now we’re going to see Charlie and Vaggie go to Heaven. Let’s just hope they don’t screw things up too much then they could have.

What were your thoughts on the episode? I really want to know since this was a good episode to me.

#hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel charlie #hazbin hotel lucifer #hazbin hotel lilith #hazbin hotel mimzy #vivziepop

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godsprettiestprincess · 1 year

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Oh no I’m thinking about teenage demons again. Azazel, Dagon, and Meg are all grunge, Asmodeus and Crowley r both the kind to have Opinions on Edwardian vs Victorian & such, Alistair is punk in the creepiest way possible (real animal bones etc), Ruby is punk/scene in a very “im 12 and this is what I think punk means” way, and Ramiel exclusively wears bad fishing tshirts and cargo pants (not goth just chillin)

#and of course Lolita fashion Lilith and rainbow jack and old lazy punk Lucifer #ramsey barks #demons

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dead-dog-dont-eat · 10 months

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oh! Oh! i wanna learn more about ur oc x canon ships! what are they like? what's their dynamic?? tell me!!

Okay! Yes!! I knew someone would ask!

So for Mixedtime (Bezel x Trazuil) their dynamic is a bit complicated but it is somewhere between tsundere and yandere trope. Along with the dynamic of a color-bursting hyperactive golden retriever (bezel) and a goth/emo grouchy murderer crow (trazuil). Though, the ship IS a bit problematic b/c Trazuil is a bit of a possessive flesh-eating slasher with parental issues and has generational trauma + Bezel is a bit of a harasser since he ALWAYS bothers Trazuil. Also, Bezel is a cosmic being while Trazuil is a fallen angel turned demon.

For Shadowhat, their relationship trope is the same as Mixedtime, except it has 150% more yandere than tsundere. Black Hat is mostly obsessive than possessive, and he has feeling for Azazel--though, these feelings are more sexual in nature than they are romantic since I hc BH to be aromantic. Azazel is mostly a shadow demon while BH is a cosmic Eldritch being; BH is a villain while Azazel is kinda of a neutral person between hero and villain since he doesn't wanna pick sides. Their dynamic is complicated as well.

Thanks for asking, anon!

#mixedtime #shadowhat

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420technoblazeit · 1 month

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anyway. masterpost for my thoughts on my spn 8x12 rewatch bc i forgot to liveblog it. this is the one where their grandfather time travels to the future by accident. it's also the introduction of the men of letters and abaddon

funny that sam and dean are still confused about time travel given that theyve BOTH time traveled on more than one occasion at this point. dean's literally traveled into the future and the past. why the fuck are u so confused about this

i ENTIRELY forgot that a cupid ensured that john and mary would get together i love that there's continuity on this

DEAN'S DADDY ISSUES ARE BACK BABEY!!!! AND THIS TIME HE'S PROJECTING THEM ONTO HIS GRANDFATHER LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

the men of letters always going UGH hunters. theyre always shoot first ask questions later what violent morons is so funny bc like. to be fair. the average hunter IS really trigger happy and aggressive. we saw a really good example of that literally like 3 episodes ago. that's a completely fair assessment tbh. sam and dean are supposed to be good hunters and their first instinct was to push henry up against the wall and start yelling at him, hunters suck ass dude

it's such a shame that abaddon ended up being a kind of forgettable big bad bc i remember thinking that her original 50s aesthetic and memory stealing powers were really cool. idk they dropped the ball with her she couldve been really cool

abaddon's introduction here as a knight of hell is TECHNICALLY an expansion of the worldbuilding in terms of hell's hierarchy but i feel like it works here. theyre just below the princes but imbued with some kind of power by lucifer ig? it is a little questionable that they cant be killed by usual demon killing means though. azazel got killed by a fuckass gun and he outranked abaddon but ok i guess

random goth girl at the comic book store u will be missed. sorry ur 'the devil made me do it' shirt was so sick that abaddon killed u for it

i like that they didnt want to put cas in this episode so they were like yeah uhhhhhhhhhhhhh there's just one of his angel feathers in the impala somewhere henry steals it. can you imagine if this guy met cas his brain would fucking explode. can you imagine if they told him they met all the archangels??????? god that's so funny to think about

abaddon looks exactly like how i imagined war good omens when i originally read the book and i stand by that tbh

FIRST USE OF THE DEVIL'S TRAP BULLET LET'S GOOOO. this trick makes no fucking sense with the laws of physics but ykw i dont care it's so fun to me. shoot a demon with a really fucking tiny devil's trap and theyre just like. stuck to the floor. it's hilarious

rip henry u were like. actually wait he was still kind of a shitty dad tbh he was like yeah i was forced into being a men of letters by my father and i felt really burdened by the duty of hunting monsters im really excited to do the same to my son though :} like alright. ok i guess man

#spn liveblog #spn 8x12 #supernatural #as time goes by #spn spoilers #supernatural spoilers #the pig squeals

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