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secular-jew · 1 month
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The Jewish mark on iconic Irish cuisine:
Corned Beef and Cabbage is a popular dish among Americans on St. Patricks Day. Traditionally, in Ireland, cabbage was and is paired with pork bacon.
However, during the 19th century, as Irish immigrants moved to the U.S., they discovered there was a lower-cost meat alternative to pork. It was their Jewish neighbors who introduced the cured meat and Kosher butchers to the community when they noticed some similarities in the two salty meats. Cooking the corned beef together with cabbage proved to be a low-cost and delicious solution; and the rest is history.
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librastrai · 5 months
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a larger post inspired by @tovezza's dives into the irish treatment of jews in their country cause i am an irish born jew, as well as an irish traveller & the hypocrisy i've seen from goyim regarding recent antisemitism + the i/p conflict is crazy.
they will call jews in the middle east settlers while throwing fits that minceiri, their own indigenous minority population, calls them settled & will throw out the most vile racism in opposition to it. settled irish + their government will prop up the colonization of themselves by the british as a shield against any accusations of racism (as recent as the very current riots in dublin spurred on by anti immigrant racism), & antisemitism (to denying ireland's own lack of action during the holocaust,) & the antisemitism raging in their every day society & now in government who are saying they're "more principled" regarding one of the most complicated sociopolitical conflicts in a region mired by it.
oh really? really, holohan? sympathy for palestinians is rooted in your own history of being colonized (which is used a shield consistently)? you can be more principled about the oppression of an indigenous people (which both palestinians & israelis are)?
explain the 1963 commission by the irish state, regarding the "itinerant problem" of which there was a system plan regarding the forced assimilation of irish travellers / minceiri into settled irish society.
explain how the plan was to sterilize minceiri women against their will, castrate minceiri men & forcibly steal our children, putting them into settled homes or insitutions run by the catholic church which spurred on untold amounts of abuse. abuse we are still healing from. how actions taken against us directly repeat actions taken by the nazis against romani women + men in their camps.
explain the ongoing genocide of minceiri folks that began way before this commission, hundreds of years of violent oppression, of theft, of cultural genocide & restriction to move. how the rate of minceiri folks imprisoned far outweighs our national population. how the camp sites we're forced onto, because our cultural way of life is restricted & criminalized, have no running water, no electricity, barely any food. how they're places you wouldn't even raise dogs, let alone expect humans to survive. not thrive, survive. how all of this is sounding very fucking familiar.
ireland's issue with jewish refugees from the shoah is built upon their insistence that their own indigenous minority, minceiri, refused to assimilate despite being beaten, raped, stolen & they knew they would not be able to do the same to jewish people.
i love my country, i have always loved my country & it's history & the gorgeous place it could become. it is not that place while it is perpetuating antisemitism time & time again, using it's own history of being colonized as a shield against criticism & ignoring it's own bloody, disgusting history of violent colonization & cultural genocde.
jewish people deserve better, irish jews deserve better & minceiri deserve better.
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Thank you for this. There’s been a lot of antisemitism coming out of Ireland, which is really a shame because I have close family and friends who Irish and I’ve always thought we had a lot in common. We both have a strong connection and love for a homeland that oppressors and invaders have tried to take away from us. And there are a lot of similarities in the Jewish and Irish immigrant experience in the United States in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries.
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vyorei · 2 months
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Full article here:
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Irish basketball players were basically forced to play Israel the other day because if they didn't the FIBA ((Basketball association basically)) would've gotten around a 6 figure fine and possible court case for discrimination of something or other ((feel free to fact check that)). 5 players backed out from it as a boycott but the rest of the players went on to travel to Latvia to play the team. One of the Israeli players commented (roughly) that the Irish were antisemitic because they didn't want to play Israel/there was talk of boycotting.
Oh, and let's not forget that the Israeli team was photographed with an IDF 'machine gun' ((not good with guns and am not willing to get it wrong, again, fact check all you want)), another picture being the team posing with a "Stand with Israel" banner.
A good thing is that the Irish team did all they could of not showing their support for Israel by refusing to handshake before(?) the game.
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totallynotcensorship · 3 months
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The Israeli occupation forces blow up an entire residential block in Abasan area, east of Khan Younis.
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runalongprincevaliant · 3 months
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gay-jewish-bucky · 1 year
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After the drama that went down the other day on Jumblr, the 80th anniversary of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, an act of rebellion which inspired many other revolts against the Nazis throughout WWII, is an excellent reminder of who is really being painted as the bad guy when non-violence is treated as the only moral option and vilify Jews for taking violent action against Nazis and other antisemitism (because antisemitism doesn't begin and end with Nazism).
You may choose to be a lamb to the slaughter, but you have no right to demand that of others and you have no right to act like you are morally superior for it.
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helpmeimblorboing · 9 months
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You know I'm not sure why we were surprised that J K Rooling was a bigoted piece of trash. It was pretty obvious
Seamus Fucking Finnegan, the one Irish character is good at blowing shit up. I mean, come on
The women that are there and are significant exist to either use the "not like other girls" trope, or to simper over or help the men, or at least aid in their development. Hermione ends the series with 0 development from where she began
The one queer character in the story is a) in love with a villain, b) morally grey, and c) not even portrayed as gay in the fucking books. A single Tweet was used to reveal this fact. She was definitely doing it to get on the hype train while it was in the station
Cho Chang. Just.... Cho Chang
The Goblins !! Anti-semitism galore
House-elves... apparently they like being slaves... HMMM... Where have I heard that before ? Oh yeah, white slave-owners said that about their black slaves
Harry becomes a cop, which is not necessarily bigoted but it is terrible writing
Once again, 0 rep for anything other than cishet white people. The ethnic character are there, and are only there, to act as background decorations. There are straight-up no openly queer people
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Joseph Rogers & America:
Follow up to this ask about Steve and Bucky’s extended family from pre-war. 
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In CATFA, Steve said his dad was injured by mustard gas in WWI, but was in the 107th infantry, an American regiment, not an Irish one. 
On the face of it, that makes it look like Joseph Rogers must have been in NYC from at least March 1917, possibly as late as Oct 1917 (since America only joined WWI in April 1917, but didn't deploy until 20 November). 
However... 
If Joseph was living in Ireland between 1914-1918 then he would’ve been drafted into a UK Regiment before he could emigrate to America (since Ireland was then still part of the UK). Even as a resident alien in America, if he hadn’t already declared intent to become a US citizen he would’ve been subject to the UK’s draft instead. 
So even though America didn’t join the war until 1917, to have avoided the UK draft altogether Joseph probably has to have been in New York since at least 1914... unless, as said, he emigrated later but had already declared intent to become a US citizen. 
(My first thought was that Sarah must have been with him, but not necessarily... She and Joseph could’ve married in Ireland, then he could have emigrated first, before her, to earn enough money to bring her along. Her alienation from an extended family network could’ve been because of this, or some other reason.) 
Joseph and Sarah would’ve known from April 1917 that Joseph was going to be deployed with the US Army. 
So if you believe the DOB for Steve being July 4 1918, then we know Joseph and Sarah must've been in the same place on Oct 7, 1917. 
(Or a little later, if Steve was born premature, which is another possibility. Unless Steve’s real DOB is something else in 1918. But which months it could’ve been are severely limited by the dates of Joseph’s potential deployments.) 
Which puts the date of Steve's ‘official’ conception right before Joseph could conceivably have first been deployed (Nov 1917). 
That to me suggests a certain urgency. 
If Sarah wasn’t already with Joseph in NYC by then, she definitely emigrated at the very latest in October 1917.
It’s a potentially quite bittersweet scenario of Sarah going by boat all the way to America to be with her husband, only for her husband to be almost immediately shipped off to Europe to fight in the war. 😕
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barebevil · 3 months
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i'm private on twitter which is why im not doing this over there but i need to say something. Barry Pierce an irish culture writer i follow on there, whose main appeal to me is that he has many opinions i agree with but he's much meaner about them than i could ever dream of being. but this. this aint it barry. whatever point he's trying to make – and i know what point he's trying to make: american zionists accuse the entire nation of ireland of being antisemitic for speaking up for palestine and the ongoing genocide at the hands of israel, barry is, and rightfully so, pointing out that this accusation is nonsense – Barry should know better than to think you have to have ever met a jewish person to be antisemitic. you don't have to know jews personally to be antisemitic. in fact its very often people who have nothing to do with jews in day-to-day life who are the most prejudiced. again, i'll reiterate, this is not to say that all irish people are inherently antisemitic because they aren't. that is a nonsense claim. But this is not how to make that point, Barry. it really isnt. ireland, barry, the land of irish catholicism? until 1965 it was still the official doctrine of the vatican to hold all jews responsible for the death of jesus. i dont think its true that an irish person wouldnt know how to be antisemitic Barry
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jewishbarbies · 5 months
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irish people propping themselves up as paragons of morality because they have some fetishy relationship with palestine only to turn around and go full white supremacist with a hate mob based on false information and chant "irish lives matter" because they hate immigrants that aren't white is top tier irony
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librastrai · 5 months
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Over six of us were killed during the shoah. Not just government policies against us. We were put in death camps. White Christians do not get to claim a part of that. This is holocaust distortion.
do you think no travellers were killed? do you think we've not been systemically murdered due to these policies & how they've also encapsulated romanichal & kale people?
the last person hanged in the uk was hung for being a gypsy. one of the largest massacres of us was over 12+ people including a pregnant woman where they were left to burn due to the systemic discarding of grt folks. we have been raped, beaten, castrated, sterilized, murdered & systemically genocided for centuries.
i'm not saying travellers have gone through a shoah, i'm pointing out that celtic + british policies regarding these very exact wordings did not come from nowhere & that irish people least of all should be acting like paragons regarding their "principled" position on the conflict in the middle east. antisemitism & antiromanism / anti traveller racism are siblings, born in the same womb. boiling us down to just "white christians" when traveller spirituality & romani spirituality are very complex is disgusting, especially to an irish, jewish gypsy. get the hell off my blog.
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virtue-boy · 5 months
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Oh man just when I thought I've seen it all here I come across a bunch of pro-isreal blogs calling the Irish juddenhassen and characterizing them as "drunk football hooligans cosplaying as Palestinian" ... Talk about having a shallow and deliberately dismissive understanding of a country's history. I can't possibly imagine the history or conflict that makes Palestine relatable to the Irish. Also the 'cosplaying' dig is hilarious because you definitely wouldn't respect them more if they were actually Palestinian!
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vyorei · 5 months
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Holocaust and antisemitism experts have penned an open letter to The New York Review of Books urging an end to the 'misuse of Holocaust memory', pointing to comments made by Israeli leaders such as Prime Minister Netanyahu
"Israeli leaders and others are using the Holocaust framing to portray Israel's collective punishment of Gaza as a battle for civilization in the face of barbarism, thereby promoting racist narratives about Palestinians"
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melancholic-pigeon · 1 month
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Okay question
is it okay to say that the indigenous population of a country didn't learn the lessons from our major tragedy or isn't it?
Is it okay to use the indigenous population of a country's major tragedy as a gotcha when talking about totally different geopolitical tragedies or isn't it?
Is it okay to demonize an entire ethnic group as being backwards and stupid and violent and intolerant or isn't it?
Is it okay to play oppression olympics or isn't it?
Is it okay to overcompensate for your own trauma and lash out against a different marginalized group or isn't it?
Personally, I know where my positions lie.
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