chara fell underground and was brought to “home” (the ruins) by asriel, and only then did monster kind leave home and move into the undergrounds other areas, the royal family moving into new home, which is implied to have been built after the core, since the core is built under it. the core was of course, built by WD Gaster, who was the royal scientist, and therefore worked closely with the royal family.
all of this to say that Gaster is implied to have known chara and asriel.
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thinking about the moonweaver after tonight’s episode. and how imogen said she’s spent her whole life reaching out to the gods but none of them ever paid attention to or loved her. and about how the moonweaver is tied to catha, intrinsically opposed to ruidus. and how imogen is so directly tied to ruidus. and how we know imogen (and laudna) have directly reached out to the moonweaver in the past yet received no obvious response. but what if imogen simply couldn't reach the moonweaver because her connection to ruidus overpowered her plea? what if, after everything, when predathos is sealed and ruidus is dormant again and the gods are no longer in danger, imogen can finally reach her? and imogen finally gets to be heard when she asks for help to save the one person she cares about the most in the world.
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god i wish we had gotten more of twelve with river song. he just meshes so well with her and since their time streams are finally (almost) synced up you don’t feel the imbalance of maturity/knowledge that you get in a lot of eleven’s time with her, and less general timeline “where are they right now what the fuck is happening” fuckery to sort through. just a husband and wife who have lived so much together and know it’s coming to an end very soon so they have to relish it (even if river doesn’t have the knowledge of her own death the way the doctor does, she knows it’s almost over because her diary is running out of pages). and i love watching this older, less theatrical, more rough-around-the-edges doctor with her because it develops their dynamic and the passage of time for the doctor so well. he's not eleven, trying to hide the pain and damage anymore. he doesn't spin off lies and deflections. he wears the hurt and is comfortable in it, and river is there to bring the joy and wonder out. they just have a more mature, beautiful relationship to me.
more thoughts and elaboration under the cut bc i care for your dash <3
twelve and river were such a delight to watch because (this is getting into hot take territory here sorry) once capaldi took over from matt smith, the show basically gave up on the whole “the doctor is very attractive and all the women want him” narrative that it pushed for eleven. of course it was there with ten but i think it got Egregious with eleven. moffat really wanted us to believe matt smith was the hottest man in the universe (and he’s not unattractive! i admit i thought he was attractive when i first watched doctor who years and years ago! the writing was just over the top with it!) twelve is not some young whimsical prettyboy anymore— he’s abrasive, blunt, and old. the show doesn’t treat him like he’s supposed to be attractive, which makes him and river’s relationship feel so real.
first off i want to point out that river is still very much attracted to the doctor in his new body which was so exciting for me because how often to we get to see romance and desire and (sexually) intimate relationships in people past the age of 35??? hardly ever! how often do we see a beautiful woman expressing desire for a man that’s not young or conventionally handsome NOT because she has ulterior motives or we’re supposed to believe he’s actually the sexiest man alive but because she simply loves him? how often do we see relationships where no matter how much change they go through, even when one of them has turned into an entirely different person (figuratively or literally), the love stays steady and unchanged? especially when these changes involve aging? there isn’t nearly enough. and seeing it is kind of healing for me, just a reminder that you can have love and intimacy and passion even when you’re not “young and beautiful” anymore
twelve and river’s relationship is just charged with so much shared experience and trust and i wish we had gotten to see more of it. in conclusion i want a special that recaps the 24 years on darillium thank you and goodbye
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Rayla is such a sad girl, man. She gets misunderstood by 80% of the characters and by a lot of watchers. Some characters judging her in the show is understandable but the watchers?
The brutal antagonizing for not saying sorry to Callum (even tho they would also antagonize her if she said sorry as "sorry isn't enough" ahem)
Or ike watchers who describe Rayla as OOC in arc 2, which it's such an statement
like I guess getting kicked out of the place you called home without even asking for an explanation leading to a huge emotional scar, losing yourr parents without even knowing their status, getting obsessed with the same guy that took them away killing your partner to the point of abandoning him out of fear of losing the only loved one you have left because said former home made you believe you either complete the mission or you are a failure, spending alone two years hallucinating the guy you abandoned and chasing someone who doesn't even exist eventully leading you to notice leaving was a big mistake and you keep messing things up won't change as a person a sensitive and unstable teenager that was dumped by her parents at age nine and was forced to bury her feelings most of her life
yeah no. I'm sorry but her character core has never been about being an static girl boss, if everything she's been a changing girlfailure since season one.
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the horrifying implications of Cinderpelt as a pawn of Starclan- trying everything she can to unsuccessfully stop her apprentice from leaving because she's terrified of the internalised idea of "failing" her clan and her job due to her impending death, while unaware that the entire Crowpool situation is intentional by Starclan for their own benefit to initiate the Power of Three prophecy and that her death in itself is to be Leafpool's motivation to stay- the idea that the stars, the ancestors and family and friends she devoted her life to always meant for her to die young and hopeless and were willing to manipulate her emotionally for the best outcome for them- is alone a piece of her character that's infinitely more heartwrenching and tragic and interesting than "she actually had a crush on Firestar and she's sad she can't date him :((" and I'm so mad that the latter is her primary legacy instead of any interpretations of her as a character that go beyond boring forbidden romance #17 that was barely even implied to begin with
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The worst part of Nightfall's obsession with Twilight and taking over as the Forger Wife is that for a mission that revolves entirely around having a child, her plan to deal with Anya is to heavily abuse her into submission.
Twilight has had struggles with parenthood himself, but he's never actively mistreated or worked Anya to the bone, because even back when he was more open about his disdain for the mission he acknowledged she's just a child that needs to be nurtured for success to be possible. Meanwhile Nightfall can't even dig up that kind of compassion to accurately do the mission because she genuinely doesn't seem to think of Anya as a person, just as a tool that comes with the role she wants to be in.
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listen to me. i believe in poly vbs. but it did not happen at once. there is an order to it. it starts with toya and kohane. introvert x introvert. then an is like i kinda like the guy my girlfriend is dating. and then akito in a complete separate situation is interested and kohane and toya is delightfully smug about it.
akito and an in true hater spirit completely refuse to acknowledge the other as romantic partners. then one of them starts feeling fond of the other. its a massive shit show. they become partners begrudgingly and only show affection to each other when the others are not around to give them A Look about it. are you listening
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i think ortega is someone who wants so much to be right, for his theories to be correct, that he is unwilling to get definitive proof in case he is wrong - and this is why he takes so long to bring up his theory on sidesteps family, and why he doesnt bring up that he suspects them of being the new villain
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