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kaythefloppa · 2 months
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Everyone seems to be talking about the Simba's Pride scripts, production notes, early drafts, and concept art-work that were recently unearthed from eBay and all the headcanon/fanfic/family-tree material that it gives, but how come no one, FRIGGIN NO ONE talks about the deleted scene from The Lion King 1½ where Timon and Pumbaa meet and talk to Scar.
I'm not even kidding:
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In the original plotline for The Lion King 3, Timon and Pumbaa (for whatever reason) were supposed to be looking for Mufasa, the Lion King. They would've come across the Elephant Graveyard and, mistaking Scar for Mufasa, come across Scar himself along with his hyena army after they have completed the Be Prepared musical number. Timon remarks that Scar is not Mufasa, to which Scar says "Must I forever be reminded of this," a nod to the original when the hyenas mistake Scar for Mufasa. The hyenas, wanting 'revenge' chase Timon and Pumbaa throughout the Graveyard before losing them.
And no, this isn't a recent discovery, (well sorta). The person storyboard artist, Amber Hollinger, (who worked on several direct-to-video sequels such as Belle's Magical World, Lilo and Stich 2, and Fox and the Hound 2) had this uploaded to her site in 2012, over 12 years ago. Since then it was added to the wiki in the concept gallery. I may have only recently found out about their source, but I knew this deleted scene existed for close to a decade. I can't be the only one who regularly thinks about this, right?
Personally, while I think the idea of Scar and Timon exchanging lines is sheer hilarity in of itself (tangent: Would they have gotten Irons back for this one-off line or would they have had Jim Cummings record some speaking lines for Scar like they did in Simba's Pride?), I can understand why it got cut, since it probably would screech the film to a halt if they had this one cameo from Scar and the hyenas drag out on and on when the movie is supposed to be an interquel with the main story and characters being a backdrop (at least during the second act that coincides with TLK's first act). To add to that, it also raises up a legitimate plot-hole in Scar knowing that there were witnesses to his conspiracy, witnesses who seemingly knew about he was about to kill, and did nothing, and in a movie filled with possibly deliberate inconsistencies, this in particular would be too tall to overlook.
But overall, it's pretty cool, and I think in a fandom that fascinates over deleted material, this is pretty underrated (then again, the 3rd movie in of itself is entirely underrated).
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Say what you want about the Disneytoons produced Disney sequels (and boy do I have things to say about them) but they did contribute much to the genre of 'Disney song that slaps and is probably a bit odd that no fucker knows about'.
Deception, disgrace; aye folks know about the 90's music video zebra and gazelle, but I offer TLK III remixing a bunch of lines and giving us the majesty that is Digga Tunnah Dance. Prince Charming is notable in Cinderella III, flinging himself out the window and all that, but I offer you Hayden Panettiere singing a song that istg invented fairytale romance!
Also on offer:
The fucking Tigger Movie making me cry with a collaboration from Footloose singer Kenny Loggins and Disney icons the Sherman Brothers
A bunch of dogs from Lady and the Tramp II singing about living in a junkyard, that isn't especially good, but is an absolute bop.
A song from 101 Dalmatians II that was included on a Disney compilation album back in 2004, which might seem a bit odd nowadays if the album hadn't been full of strange song choices for even back in 2004.
A rock cover of I Wan'na Be Like You by Smash Mouth. No I didn't make this up. It's real. It's there. I'm not trying to rickroll thi (There seems to be two versions, one with Baloo, the other just with Mowgli. No clue why. This is is the one without) - Bonus: shoutout to Sora and Amity Blight singing about the jungle rhythm.
Phil Collins coming back for Tarzan II to give us Who Am I?, a song I absolutely fucking love. Also yes that is American comedian George Carlin as the gorilla.
Two of the sweetest songs you'll probably ever hear in your life from Bambi II: There is Life and First Sign of Spring.
The absolute belters that are Welcome to this Day and Feels Like Home from Brother Bear 2. Massively underrated. Love these two.
Some are better than others, and some aren't necessarily good per se, but they're fun in their own way and scratch that particular itch. Some make me feel good, most are incredibly nostalgic, some may surprise you. Go take a listen!
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ele-sme · 10 months
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“Elena stop listening to disney songs!” TF WOULD YOU DO IF I DON'T?
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reformedladyfandom · 1 year
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The Lion King 3 - Timon And Simba Snail Slurping Contest
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Simba has a strong stomach after eating the snails
Also, if kion and bunga competed in a snail-eating contest against timon and simba, surely the winners would be kion and bunga
And the ones that would be watching would be Nala, Kiara and Pumbaa.
¿What you think?
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iffasart · 5 months
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I love laudna and pâté so muchh
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ninjasmudge · 11 months
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u forget the word for a group of monkeys for one second and suddenly its personal
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reinwinters · 1 month
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Lion king vibes hah.
@velnna
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jaubaius · 1 year
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eden-west · 1 month
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You bet I'm team blue.
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He's actually harder to sketch than Byleth in all honesty. I want to make him right. 🥹 There are so many subtle details in his concept art that shows how unkept and tired this poor guy is.
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hellshee · 2 years
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⚡️ IOANA’S 5K CELEBRATION ⚡️ 🔥 + favorite animated movie for @ceftali
Finding Nemo (2003) The best things happen by chance because that’s life. That’s you being with me out in the ocean, not safe in some glass box.
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Just wanted to sneak in and say the idea of Riverstar x One Eye would immediately become 100x funnier if one were also to ship them in Better Bones
Here's the God of Summer. He eats people and hates everyone except his RiverClan bf and daughter /j
Quick shout back to you to tell you I'm trying to provide room for it
I love OneRiver too much to not give some kind of opportunity where they could have had some sort of positive relationship, and it's just a genuinely cool idea. That Riverstar was able to see the mysterious stranger before he revealed his true colors, and always felt... odd, about his peculiar energy.
A friendly tenseness. A mutual parting where neither one quite knows what to make of the other. The feeling in Riverstar's gut is like locking eyes with a tiger, just before it turns away.
So what I'm thinking is that in Thunderstar's Justice, after the carnage at the First Battle that summons the God of Summer like a dinner bell, One Eye comes to peruse. He visits each Clan, spends a short amount of time there, and then moves onto the next. He finally stops in Skystar's Clan, but it would give him some room to hang out in the River Kingdom.
Since it's Thunderstar's story though, he would be getting this information secondpaw from his ally and old friend, King Riverstar. One Eye would have a very... tense, predatory feeling to Thunderstar.
Like he's tracking something very powerful and very dangerous as it prowls through the undergrowth.
In truth, One Eye is scouting. He's looking for what was responsible for that delicious smell on that sticky, sweltering summer day. His stops in each group to understand them better, see what sorts of things they want and what they're currently doing, but finds that none of the other Four Founders are the warlord he's looking for.
A wise, ancient, well-spoken being, he was interested in Riverstar for a little longer than the others. Not as his target. Just as a curiosity.
What a poetic story, this peaceful prince had. Desperate to avoid the stressful responsibilities that would be thrust upon him, he sought friends where there should have been enemies, and made peace in spite of tyrants. But his nonchalance became carelessness, and he was made hostage by his underestimated enemy.
He ended up sparking the very battle he had sought so hard to avoid, his father's heroic death to save his son landing the crown upon Riverstar's head. A tragedy. A tale of inevitability. To a God of War, it's a wonderful story to hear.
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kaythefloppa · 5 months
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I like the storyboards of the hyenas in TLK 2 and 3. No words, I just love them.
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You know Walt Disney Animation Studios was going through a rough patch in the mid noughties when Disneytoons were releasing direct-to-DVD Disney sequels that were better quality than the output of the main animation studios.
In other words, The Lion King 3 is a much better film than Home on the Range, anything is better than Chicken Little, and there's a strong argument Cinderella 3 is a better film than Meet the Robinsons. Truly, a terrible time for WDAS.
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nikox400x · 2 months
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Kung Fu Panda 4-All the budget went to the animation (spoilers)
Hey all, its me, the guy who everyday make a tour around this site but almost never talk. How are ya?
Two days ago something arrived to the cinema's screens, something that me and everyone were waiting for since 2018, the fourth film and the begginig of the new kung fu panda triology.
You know? When I sat on that theather seat with my friends to see what Dreamworks had prepared for us, I told myself; "Maybe that post I made a while ago throwing shit at what seemed like Kfp 4 was going to be was a bit hard, I hope I can come out regretting what I said that time"
And as soon as the credits ended, it was clear to me, I dont regret a shit. Maybe it was a little exaggerated, compared to what a megamind fan would think about the terrible sequel they made, but still: the film is crappy and boring most of the time. But why?
I'm going to explain some points.
1- Po? Is that you?
I don't know you guys, but i don't think the panda we knew in the end of the third film is the same as this one. Seriously, he share more comparisons with the Po from the legend of awessonless than the one from the films, maybe its a personal thing but it feels that way. At least in the beggining of the film feel like that.
And I don't know what he was thinking about when he decided to follow a thief he doesn't know at all and who tried to steal in his own palace, and that suspiciously know who is the chameleon, whose were her plans, her past, where she lived, where exacly they had to pass through avoiding all the guard inside her home, why the others thiefs of the city hate her so much... With Po's experience with criminals this is like a chef throwing water on a pan with boiling oil, it's obvious what is going to happen.
2- Zheng- Female Nick Wilde but without charisma or half of his intelligence.
I knew it from the first moment I saw Zheng's desing, the people who know me can corroborate that; her facial expressions, her tone while she talk, her animal race, her position as thief, her final when she is part of the justice same as the protagonist... it's clearer than water I think.
Everyone could say this is forgivable if she's smart, but surprise, she's not. This character is just an absurd try of this company for """"conect with infant audience""""(I don't know in what sense, I supose for the cute design, idk). But the point is, the supposed objective of the hollywood companies is give the new generetions better things than we got at their age, but what I see is laziness for write a decent scrip only for take an advantage of a known IP and make easy money. Even the children have quality standars, this is not the dragon warrior and of course this is not kung fu panda.
And talking about the dragon warrior, having our deep and lovely Tigress with her magnific development or Tai Lung back from the spirit realm... why in the hell this character exists?! Oh yeah, for being trending topic in twitter for three days. Yay...
3- The furious five and Shifu, for us : our pretty boys, and for Dreamworks: living jokes.
What made Kung Fu Panda what it is, is not the fucking panda, it's them. They're the inspiration for Po, their allies, the royale representation of kung fu and the ones which everything started with.
Po's a comic relief, and his mission is show his development in part using his humor, but the humor in this film barely works because of the lazy script. Something that even the talented Jack Black himself can't fix, beacuse his only role there is dublin his character, unlike the rest of the residents of the Jade Palace except Dustin Hoffman.
Seth Rogen (Mantis) himself even said that he wasn't even contact by Dreamworks in the first place, only for make a scream in the credits, that's sad beacause he really wanted to see Mantis on the screen. And I know and I understand that the five are expensive, but cmon, they could just simply change the voice actors and offset it with a good script but that's not the case of course. Their role in the film is being a counter for Po's constant jokes, for not to saturate the spectator with jokes, now that's not in there anymore, thank you Dreamworks.
4-The chameleoooohhn and her "motivation".
I can't say much, basically because out of her design she's nonsense. She says that because of her size, she was reyected for being a kung fu warrior.
Yeah of course but only one little thing, what about Shifu? Viper, a warrior without tips? Mantis, literally a dawn insect? Master Oogway, a TURTLE? The masters goose? C'mon even there's a fucking master chicken! Don't talk shit chameleon!
Her importance for the plot? Its almost a lie, the others villains had links to important characters; Tai Lung (with his link to Shifu's past), Shen (with his link to Po's past) or Kai (with his link to Oogway's past), all of them related to important characters. And her? To zheng's past and present I guess? But again, anyone know this character. She's like a villain from a Disney show, you know the type of villain who say a lot of things but at the end, she don't support nothing to the lore.
And her personality is like a mix of all the previous villains, and this sounds good right? HAHAH nope. Do you remember when as a child you mixed all the plasticines of all the colors to create the final color and you ended up with a color similar to poop? well that's exacly how her personality feels like.
5- Po's dads; the only reason they're there is because they ran out of characters to make the film.
The tittle itself tell everything, they don't do anything for the script in all the film, and their objective could be done since the start.
The script of the film except for the final looks like a draft which they didn't know how to complete, everyone who watch it can see it perfecly. The animation, the music and the backgrounds are the only things notable here.
6- Tai Lung and the cheapness nostalgia.
Fan service is not necesarry bad, above all if is used in a good way, they sold us Tai Lung as a miracle but his importance for the plot feels just like a Stan Lee cameo, I like Tai Lung I can say that. But this is too weak, Shen and Kai are only characters in the background who don't do nothing except being defeated or make facial expressions (I don't even joke that Shen would show respect to Po considering what we saw in the second movie, and Kai wasn't supposed to be destroyed as a spirit, what the hell is he doing here again? *sign* I'll to stop trying to make sense of this).
By the way, anyone else think that the dragon warrior role is understimated? I mean Shifu obligated Po to transfers the role to another one just because yes, i mean he only has been the dragon warrior for less than 5 years and now they want to replace him with a random. Everything just for at the end, he choosed a thief with at least 30 crimes registred and who was a traitor during the 75% of the movie.
7- The """""""""humor"""""""", except they forgot the parts where I must to laugh.
Seeing nonsense hits only beacuse yes stopped of being funny a long time ago, and no, I don't want to talk about the bunnies of the portrait because I would get sick. I had to go to the cinema drunk to endure the filler that the movie had, no joke, it was the only way to laugh at those jokes.
So I think about applying the same method as in any movie with bad jokes, ignoring the jokes. I tried to do the same thing but with the pace that the film managed, such a thing was impossible, the pace of the movie seems to be made for Tiktoker children with attention deficit. From the chaos in the quarry until Po takes the bitc... uhg fox out of prison, only 10 fucking minutes pass, all of that for what? So that you feel like the baseless information and the nonsensical plot that they tell us is of any use? they could simply make a non-canonical short and that's it, but no, yes or they were going to tell us a story written by rotten old men who spend the entire day watching Tik Tok. It's not going to be that the child who sees this doesn't get bored, we know that much today's children don't have many neurons as they say, but even to make movies for them you have to have a certain talent.
In some point at the beguining Po make a joke about the ausence of the furious five saying that at least he had them in cardboard posters, and this would be a good joke. Only if the stupid film could be prove that the franquise can do something memorable without the furious five, but again, that's not the case.
Don't have any respect for this movie, look what it had with you. I understand that it is enjoyable because of the animation but it does not go beyond that line, it destroys important things about the canon and spoils its teaching about the need for change by treating it in a terrible way.
Coclusion: KFP 4 is just another Po's adventure as Shifu says, it won't tell nothing to you or make you feel different, it's a shame but after Megamind 2 I imagined something like this. It's a dark era for film, expecially the animated one so like Scar said; Be prepare, there're worse things waiting for us.
Do you want something with real quality? You don't even need kung fu panda 1,2 or 3, for make it easy to this film let's take this marvelous example; kung fu panda: secrets of the scroll (2016). You'll say; "An animated short, this is not like-" Shhh Just watch it, you won't regret it.
If you think I'm wrong in something, just rewatch the film. And if still you aren't agreed with me, well, I respect you and I'm happy you like it. I wish I could love it as you do, but that doesn't mean that the movie isn't bad, because if you watch it with your brain on or remembering the previous movies it's terrible.
. Me? I've to write a story, I love you all. Except you, Dreamworks, I'm mad with you, expecially when you do this at the same day as Akira Toriyama's death :(
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romancemedia · 9 months
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Deceased Cartoon Romances
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cacophony-eg · 1 year
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You know that old question of why did LBD change Wukong's outfit? I think I have found the answer, and it's thanks to Azure Lion.
(Pink) Both Azure's outfit and Possessed Wukong's have very similar styles, from the way the side hip flaps feed into the top, to how the armour sits on their shoulder and chests. There are some differences but the overall style is way to similar to not be inspired by one another.
(Red) Even Post Possessed Wukong's outfit has similar mix of gold and white.
I know the side hip flaps are initially red but in a later scene (Blue) they become white. So not 100% sure what's going on there but it does make PP Wukong's outfit look even more like Azure's.
Now In this screen shot of Azure, he is still a Celestial warrior. Erlang's "Champion" if you will. (I'll have to wait till the english version of the episode to come out before I can confirm that's what he's called.) That outfit could easily be a status symbol for what Celestial Champion's wear.
So when Wukong get's possessed, LBD starts calling Wukong her "Champion." She then changes his outfit to a "Celestial Champion's" but with her colouring. I think this was Lady Bone Demon's way of showing off (and rubbing it in) that Wukong was now her Champion.
(I now want to look over celestial guard/warrior outfits and see if Macaque's outfit mimics those as well.)
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