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dat-is-chill-ghafa · 1 year
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i want to take a moment from my venting to highlight the positive aspects of the show
Freddy and Amita were absolutely sensational as Kaz and Inej, their chemistry could not have lit up the screens more- they care so much about their characters, they are their characters and there is no one who could have portrayed them as beautifully and perfectly as them
Wesper were also everything and I didn’t mind the changes to their stories- Kit and Jack also had great chemistry and we got some good moments
Calahan as Matthias was criminally underused but for the few scenes we got to see him morph into the Matthias we are introduced to in Six of Crows- he seemed so much more settled, dark, perfectly conveying the nuances of the sacrifices of Matthias’s character and what is done to him in Hellgate- he was imposing and it makes me sad how little we saw him and Nina
Nikolai, Tolya and Tamar were perfectly cast- and despite my initial distrust of Nikolai’s characterisation based on the sneak peeks- Patrick did a great job conveying Nikolai’s charm and his darkness, sincerity and passion for the throne- Tolya and Tamar were just perfect- EVERYTHING about them- again- underused and it makes me sad we didn’t get a serious enough look at their backstory - them being duplicitous to Alita due to them being part of the cult of the sun saint etc/
Alina and Mal’s chemistry was phenomenal - it was perfect and tender - Archie Renaux said MAL RIGHTS and it paid off a thousand times over- the way Mal was portrayed down to him being the Firebird- his loyalty to Alina, his loss everything, his portrayal of Mal was better and more sincere than the books and all of their moments felt amazing- shame the writers ruined any sincerity of their ending
The Kanej moments we did get and some of the scenes- thoroughly enjoyed
I thought it was smart some of the ways in which the timelines were combined and given the fact I think the writers knew we would not be getting a third season - I did appreciate the attempts to try and shove everything together
Daisy Head BODIED genya’s acting- her chemistry with David wasn’t great but with the limited exposure to her trauma they gave her- it worked out well
best costuming department ever- not a single one of the character’s fits ddi not live up to expectation and beyond - THE DETAILING on the keftas, inej’s leather boots- Tolya and tamar’s fits - insanity - all the awards they deserve all of them
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kanejbr3kker · 1 month
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What I want instead of SoC 3
don't get me wrong, i'm sure that if leigh wrote soc 3 it'd be great, but i honestly really don't want her to make it cause:
-we all know someone's gonna die and it'll probably be kaz or inej which means it'll just hurt even more
-rule of wolves was the most perfect end to the grishaverse and i feel like adding another full novel would kinda ruin it
-a lot of people have only read soc, but since the third book would be set after kos, people who only cared about soc would have to go back and read shadow and bone so they could read kos so they could read soc 3
what i want instead:
-a collection of novellas about the crows! any or all of the following:
-the heist thing that zoya brings up at the end of row; i don't feel like it's enough to be a full book but it'd be fun to see (also if it's a novella no one will die so bonus points)
-early kanej!!!! i NEED to see kaz teaching inej how to pick locks and giving her her first knife
-kaz and inej stealing the dekappel cause they just bring it up so casually throughout the books and i want to see it actually happening since yk it's their first date
-nina, inej, and jesper becoming friends; their friendship is so great and i would love to watch them first getting to know each other
-wylan before he left van eck's house; obviously the main reason wylan got kicked out of his dad's house was the fact that he couldn't read but jesper also joked about him sleeping with one of his tutors and it's never really confirmed or denied and i just need to know
-post crooked kingdom kanej; i've read too many fanfics about their long distance relationship and now i just need it to be canon
-wesper just chilling in van eck's house after crooked kingdom and occasionally breaking the law (basically what they hint at during the crows cameo in row)
-something helnik related i really don't care what
-kanej anything
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Kanej hobbies headcanon:
When she’s away at sea, Inej takes up knitting to pass the time. She gets really good at it.
As she’s on her way to visit Kaz and Wesper in Ketterdam she decides to knit Kaz some gloves
She makes sure to make the stitches bigger at the fingertips so he can still lockpick.
When she gives them to him he almost passes away right there on the spot.
He tells her, “This is the best gift I’ve ever been given” and she feels almost giddy
Kaz never takes them off.
After she leaves again, he decides to learn how to draw so he can capture her image while she’s away.
He’s actually really good at it, but there’s always something ever so slightly off that frustrates him. Eventually he gives up.
The next time Inej is in Ketterdam he asks her to teach him how to knit.
It’s frustrating but Inej helps him stay calm and eventually, he gets quite good.
Inej is the only one who knows he knits and he knows she’ll keep it a secret.
He likes knitting bc “you can hurt someone with a knitting needle.”
He always keeps a knitting needle up his sleeve with his other weapons
He makes gifts for all of the dregs, but no one knows it’s him.
When Inej is asked if it’s her, she just laughs and walks away
When Nina is asked about it she says it’s not her but she doesn’t know who it is
As the years go by and Kaz becomes more comfortable with touch, the gloves from Inej slowly become fingerless gloves, and then none at all.
He also gets really into sewing and is a MENACE with a sewing machine.
Inej gets really good at embroidery.
They make a lot of clothes for the other crows. Especially Wylan and Jesper.
When Kaz and Inej get engaged he decides he wants to make her wedding dress.
He doesn’t tell her that he’s making it because he wants to surprise her.
However, it’s not turning out how he wants, it���s not perfect.
Inej notices how agitated he is and knows something is up
The moment she confronted him he breaks and confesses bc he can’t lie to Inej.
Inej is both annoyed and also speechless.
She’s annoyed bc she literally has been searching for the perfect dress for months with Nina.
But that annoyance disappears quickly bc the dress Kaz made is literally perfect, it’s everything she was looking for.
Also at the same time he confesses about the drawings to.
She thinks they’re perfect and hangs all of them up.
Other couples:
Wesper
Helnik
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its-tea-time-darling · 3 months
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things i did NOT like about shadow and bone (netflix):
the darkling looks Old. he's supposed to look the same age as all the other main protagonists. this highlights alina's future of staying the same & young where everyone around her dies. it also blurs the line between good and evil more bc 'oh he's the older bad guy' is just such an easy solve. also while ben barnes is a snack imo the darkling was supposed to have a more alluring, youthful magnetism.
making genya's scars barely a few scratches. she's supposed to objectively have lost her former self perfected beauty!!! this is a thing!!! she doesn't just have some deep scars, she's supposed to look hideous at first sight, where is show adaptation teams' courage to show characters that are supposed to be mutilated as just that???? i promise audiences can survive on literally everyone else on the cast being very stereotypically pretty/handsome 🙄🙄🙄🙄
changing wesper's storyline so that they had a one night stand before canon sets in??? what kind of bullshit is that??? fucking robbing me of the "just girls?" -"not just girls" gay ANgST will they won't they, does jesper like him too, will they ever - BAM. KISS. !!!!!!! succession??? making wylan cute and awkward does NOT compensate their book storyline At All what were those show writers thinking??? 😭😭
this one i will forgive but i still rly liked it in the books so im a tad sad they didn't manage to include it: that alina has a time where she thinks she is morozova's second daughter's descendant. in many respects she has learned she is Special, and the shame she feels when she realizes this isn't another one of these cases, this isn't a way to finally show her A Path, that in this respect she is ordinary and mal is tied to fate that way, that's just such a good touch.
malina going seperate ways. what happened to "they had an ordinary life full of ordinary things--if love can ever be called that."????? "choice is true north" my ASS 😤😤😤😤 malina have always been in love and will always be in love idc abt the firebird amplifier thing that was just sth they had to do they've always been people and they've always loved each other there is no way around it
things i DID like about shadow and bone (netflix)
david and genya. specifically the delivery of the lines "I … I don’t understand half of what goes on around me. I don’t get jokes or sunsets or poetry, but I know metal. Beauty was your armor. Fragile stuff, all show. But what’s inside you? That’s steel. It’s brave and unbreakable. And it doesn’t need fixing. You don't need fixing."
genya telling the queen how she poisoned the king, and genya spitting at nikolai how his apologies are of no use and that he needs to prove a better king. generally just genya. 💞
nikolai sending his mother away + what he says to her.
all the malina flashbacks to the meadow <33
malina last night together 😳😳 they love each other sm!!!!!
the scene at morozova's home. baghra sharing her past, all the reveals happening there, and of course the darkling weeping over his mother's body. "know that i loved you. know that it wasn't enough." like OkAY.
sankta neyar's speech. so deeply touching, and doesn't just apply to immortals but to all of us who have been hurt and suffered loss before.
the darkling begging alina to let him be her monster. A+ delivery.
"How will you have me? Fully clothed, gloves on, your head turned away so our lips can never touch? I will have you without armour, Kaz Brekker. Or I will not have you at all." generally the entirety of kanej in this show. inej's hallucination. the mirroring to the last scene. breathtaking showstopping flawless.
little rabbit.
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its-tortle · 7 months
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crows fic recs 🐦‍⬛
put this list together for a friend a few weeks ago and thought i may as well share it here. it's mostly wesper :)
without a mouth i can swear your name by @kvothes - 32k - the only hogwarts au i've ever read that was genuinely great. wylan goes missing and the others go on a mission to find him.
the pugilist's creed by bardelow - 123k - post book canon. wylan and matthias are kidnapped and the other have to get them back. this is whump and angst and ahh but i swear it is also comfort.
if you love her by heavenlyshadows - 3.9k - modern au. kanej take their relationship at their own pace. this is just so sweet
dance with me, darling by @demigodbeautiies - 3.8k - a cute and fun and messy wesper propsal fic
somewhere full of bright colors and beautiful sounds by @demigodbeautiies - 15k - an absolutely beautiful marya hendriks character study
the handmaid by maudeelise - 78k - the crows run a con where jesper is to pose as wylan's handmaid. it goes predictably awry. this one is so so slay and has an amazing plot twist and just ?? reading it as it was updating was insane
keep you safe by @aphroditestummyrolls - 42k - in a post-canon au which has elements from the show and where jesper took the parem (it makes perfect sense when you read it i swear) colm shows up in ketterdam looking for jesper. complicated but heartwarming family reunion
big reputations by @downn-in-flames - 61k - the college au chatfic that has become such a core in this fandom for all the right reasons. so so much fun
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chaosandwolves · 1 year
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Ok my thoughts on s2 of Shadow and Bone
What I liked:
The first four eps were the strongest imo
I loved how they incorporated the crows into this
The costumes!!! (hello Jesper)
Most of the fight choreos since they were perfectly fitted to the character (actually didn't like the choreo in ep6 though)
Tolya and Tamar (thank you queer gods)
Genya
Genya and David
Ben Barnes was outstanding and so fun to watch
I liked the pace up until the last 3 eps
Mal as Stormhond? I dig it
They kinda speed ran Kanej but it was still well made and we got the "I'll have you without your armor" quote
WESPER (seriously they were the cutest ever and had such great chemistry)
Wylan (I KNEW Jack would be perfect but actually watching him being the perfect Wylan was amazing)
Jesper
What I didn't like
I'm mighty pissed about David. Given how important he was for Nikolai in the books and that we didn't even get the relationship between him and Genya properly. There was no need to kill him off so early. I'm really pissed about that (I feel like it's Eskel all over again although we at least got a few scenes with him)
Though I loved Tolya and Tamar I think they didn't quite manage to explain their role in all of this and why they're doing what they do so they seemed a bit randomly placed at times
I didn't like that they sidelined Zoya and that she wasn't with Genya and Nikolai. Obviously they've changed Nikolai's and Alina's story now but man we didn't really get to see any of what makes her Zoya. I mean they hinted that they'll still give her the storyline with that bee but yeah
Like 5 minutes in total of Matthias... Like what was that?
Pekka Rollins now ruling Hellgate - and probably more- kind of negates what Kaz did to him. If it all ends up with Kaz destroying him after all, I'll be happy but that way they really took away from the importance of what Kaz did. It was all he worked for why he is who he is... So I'm like... Yeah they either need to fix this (which I think they'll do or at least they'll revisit this story) or they absolutely built and destroyed that storyline in one go
I'm really not the person who's like "but in the books" or "the books were better" cause these are different mediums, different ways of storytelling and different ppl working on it.
I'm not sure what I think of Alina's storyline now. And which way this will go. I guess they did that to keep her on the show and I sure as hell hope Ben will make a return as well. But I was very... Ok.... When that happened cause it's actually an integral part of who she is that she's NOT drunk on the power in the end and doesn't turn into a person like the Darkling.
I'm gonna be mighty pissed if next season we finally get more Matthias but then he's killed off.
Yeah. I mean finally s3 will be the Crows season.
Also I think even though they upped their gane with Kaz, I think he still could've been more brutal... More Kaz
I hope next season there is more brilliant scheming. Cause imo we haven't really seen Kaz' brilliance yet.
Ok I'm done
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thrxughthenxght · 10 months
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Wesper Fanfiction Recommendations:
Multi-Chapter:
Of Lies and Rash Decisions by @wesperbrekkered on AO3. It's really good and she added a little bit of Wesper content from S&B in there while keeping it mostly book compliant which I personally love. Also she has a really fantastic grasp on Jesper's character. I finished this fic in three days it was so good. Check it out.
A Gun for the Disgraced Sun by @deoplunk on AO3. This was really well done! The action and character dynamics were really great to read. I'm not going to lie I binged it because it kept me on my toes. It also includes all the crows but it's mainly Wesper. It includes crow shenanigans, multiple POVs and, of course, a heist. A great Wylan character study (if you pay attention).
One-Shots:
If This Feelin' Flows Both Ways by LyricsIsHereUnfortunatley. A little under 5000 words and it is so worth it!! It's a canon divergence AU (just a small thing) and Jesper and Wylan are done so well in it. Features Jealous!Jesper and I'm not going to lie it was very him. Loved it, loved the small plot, perfect amount of flirting and humour and again the characters seemed straight out of the book.
Comfortably numb by Amorista_444. VERY angsty but SO good. Features Married!Wesper and the crows gang (just a little but I eat it up). Wylan gets hurt and Jesper panics and it's just so much angst and hurt/comfort and some beautiful communication as a happy ending.
Ketterdam Waters by @deoplunk (again). This is technically mutli-chapter because it's two chapters but it reads like a one-shot. I love it so much I've read it quite a few times. Excellent Jesper and Wylan study and also features hurt/comfort. This has the crows in it as well and I love Jesper and Kaz chats which this has too. I definitely recommend this!
Wylan Van Eck: Demolition Expert and Professional Clothes Thief by Silverstar1. This one was very Wylan-Centric but it's all the crows living together and Wylan stealing their clothes I couldn't NOT recommend it. Besides there's jealous!Jesper and these two are full of shenanigans. It's a super cute read and it's mainly Wesper so I though it deserved to be on here.
Which pairing or fandom should I do next? I have a lot of fics to recommend. I was thinking of doing a Kanej one and then a Wesper part 2? Let me know your thoughts if you guys read these.
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lilisouless · 1 year
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Look, Show!Wesper will never be book!wesper
(I know you hate long post, but would you make an exeption for Wesper?)
It´s a vanilla jelly you get from a supermarket vs a fine restaurant´s chocolate pudding (ps, i got hungry writing this and actually stopped to eat a jello from)
I am also aware that the desition of having them hooking up very early on instead of the build up wasn't just pragmatic choices, i really think them being a same sex couple had an influence on that desition, is a consequence of how netflix often treats their lgbtq rep, which is why i get why a lot of people got very upset , specially being lgbtq themselves
Not to say how many scenes will be lost or won't have the same impact.
Now, that being said , there is something on Show!Wesper potentially coming. Is not just the angst, if netflix writers notice what they have done, they could build something interesting
You`ll see, i said before many times that Leigh pairs up often people with similar or complementary issues. The difference between Wesper with Kanej and Helnik is that their problems aren't related to each other
With Kanej, we know their similarities with the touch and how they affect their relationship, not to say anything that their moral conflict, Inej still believes in salvation for Kaz but Kaz can hardly show his good side because is dangerous for him that people know there is someone he loves more than himself. Inej represents a kindness and faith Kaz believes must be left behind, Kaz represents for Inej that people who do bad things can still have good on them , which is something she applies to herself
And Helnik speaks for itself, Nina represents everything Matthias was supposed to destroy, Matthias is part of people who wants to kill her kind. Even without that, Nina is not the concept of the perfect woman behaviour Matthias was raised with and reminds her of this over and over, reminding Nina she is loud and sometimes goofs too much, something her trainers often told her, also got bullied on the orphanage, all this things makes Nina think she is "too much" and people may get tired of her (see her speech to Inej, the best reflection of her insecurities were there) Matthias would eventually realize he actually likes this things about Nina (and letting her know it,a huge step on making amends) and thats why he was so cruel about it.
In both couples, they manage to turn their relationship into something with only joy, but there was pain at one point or another,there were part of each other´s problem thats what i mean.
With Wylan and Jesper that doesn't happen , and this is not a way to say they are better or less important because of it, is just stating a fact and the reason why Kanej and Helnik often think about each other on specific terms while Wesper think about the whole team , but making important highlights on each other. They have meet each other for less time,they are not important on each other`s lives from the begining like the other two, most of their relationship build up is seen on the book with little previous information other than Jesper being send to recuit Wylan and sometimes flirted with him to see what happens (which was pretty ambiguous but you get it). They have a similar conflict individually but the other is not part of it, they mostly bond because of it and are more a companion than a participant on their respective problems. As much as Jesper bitchs on Wylan, he is hardly the reason of his insecurities and Wylan is not related to everything that was going on with Jesper
Now my point: Show Wesper does have a shot on making each other part of their problems, not a whole (that was never a think with Kanej and Helnik...well,on the books anyway🙄) but like i have said before
-Jesper´s loved ones are either leaving or distancing themselves from him,Wylan is the closest person he got at the end of the season. Wylan in exchange has no one, he has no friends outside of Jesper ; sure he has some friendly interactions with other characters but they aren't friends. This means Jesper and Wylan and , maybe unaware, pushing for the other to be their "person" their stability: Jesper offers Wylan a key on an impulse and Wylan decides to move in inmediately.
On the book they find their stability on each other as well, but that was the result of a healthy outcome, knowing each other and deciding that staying together was both what they wanted and the best for them in more than one sense, is not a problem,its a resolution.
On the show it can turn into a problem because becoming someones person its an untold compromise if you and that person have unresolved issues.
By this point i`ll drop spoilers from the book, so if you only watched the show i suggest to not open the cut
Jesper doesn't know Wylan is a merchant son, Jesper hates when people hide information from him, when they consider him untruswhorty or leave him out. This doesn't sound nice if your person is hiding a big deal from you,specially someone you have been vulnerable with. And remember that Jesper in the book , when Wylan stoped talking to him supposedly, his reaction was thinking "he doesn't want to be associated with criminals anymore" and was quite bitter about it. This was Jesper not only not in a relationship with Wylan, they were hardly friends and didn't consider their mutual atraction outside of a phisical thing, "why bother getting attached, he will leave when all of this is over" .
So Show!Wylan , acording to Jesper , may as well be one more of the people who don't trust him or will leave too. Thats how Wylan becomes part of the pain. If this guy,he got so attached only saw the barrel as his playground all along and will go back to his privileged life where Jesper doesn't belong and leave him alone. Its also very unlikely that Wylan explains to him that his dad tried to had him killed, he never says that on the book since the only thing he confess to Kaz was that he couldnt' read,Jesper having a loving father himself which he has a dificult but still loving relationship with, will not even think that Wylan`s dad won't have him back, even if Wylan tells him that.
Also, Jesper always felt like he didn't deserved the people in his life and on the show Wylan hasn't shown to be aware of his gambling adiction or his drop of university, he may hide that from Wylan out of fear he will be judged (and deep inside, feel like he deserves said jugdment)
On Wylan´s side, its harder but not impossible. Jesper on the show already knows he can't read, but lets see this: Jesper thinks Wylan is either a colelge drop out or from the streets, Wylan may think is not the same someone who was never taught to read from someone that had all the resourses to learn and still couldn't.
Wylan doesn't reason "my dad never loved me for real" he thinks "my dad used to love me until i failed him" ,so if the love of his father who knows him from birth faded away very easily, why this boyfriend he has known for one months at most would be diferent? Add that Jesper forgot their first meeting, Wylan may think "sure, he will get over me quickly" considering how fast they got together and making rushed advances, you know "easy comes, easy goes" way of thinking.
So, a soc spinoff can build a whole double abandonement issues conflict for those two. Not book!Wesper but can help to flesh them out and making their relationship not just be the happy side couple, they can still have the grown together wesper had on the books while adding something more.
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kizzys · 4 months
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CREATOR TAG GAME
thank you for tagging me ives @jakeyp <33
pick your 5 favorite gif sets of 2023 that got less than 1k notes and then pick 10 gifsets of someone else's that got less than 1k notes.
my sets:
this nina and kaz set because i love them and also i'm very proud of my animations here
this darcy (and minor taradarcy) set. i may not care for ts but even i can't deny these lyrics fit darcy perfectly
this wesper playlist set (credit to mia @singularities for the template) the purple and gold SLAPS. i am not a fan of my blending and sharpening in the last gif though but in my defense the deleted scene is a bitch to work with
this heartstopper rainbow gradient set. this took years out of my life to complete and as long as i don't look too closely at each individual gif i remain very proud of it
lastly this yellowjackets set. i love this poem sm and while i'm not very happy with how a lot of the gifs turned out it is cancelled out by how proud i am of the last gif
sets by some incredibly talented people:
this nick and charlie set by @jakeyp the typography, the coloring, the overlays, all of it is so pretty and the set is so funny too like your talent is unmatched!
this other nick and charlie set by @moirainesedai the film reel theme is so creative and its executed so well, and the coloring is so effing pretty!
this jo march set by @singularities has a special place in my heart. the poem choice is top notch and the blending is incredible!
this nick nelson set by @kitconnor i love seeing animation sets all the time because they are always so creative and this one is so incredibly funny!
this vecna set by @danesdehaan you must know this set has been haunting me since the moment i saw it. the coloring, the typography, the grid layout, all of it is so incredible!
this crows set by @padme-amidala first of all, crows my beloved <3. second of all, this coloring and blending is all so so pretty like, i can't imagine how long it would have taken to assemble all of it but it looks amazing!
this kanej set by @yenvengerberg speaking of sets that would have taken so long to assemble becca holy shit this is insane! the blending, the color palette, the overlays are all executed to perfection like this is some insane level of talent
this kaz brekker set by @djarin just look at this blending. just look at it. especially in the second gif. its amazing!
this firstprince set by @aimeegbbs the overlay with the book scenes and the doodling on all the texts is so so pretty and i love the ripped paper effect! not to mention the gorgeous coloring
this yellowjackets set by @cardvngreenbriar listen this set has been haunting my brain for a while now. like just the first gif itself, how smooth the movement in both the gifs are, not to mention the blending and the purples like !!!! this is all just *chefs kiss*
i'm also tagging the people mentioned above, no pressure :)
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eerna · 1 year
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ngl i find it hilarious that they just speedran crooked kingdom while matthias was just sitting in jail like 🧍‍♀️
IT'S SOOO FUNNY it was literally "Crooked Kingdom but they never got Matthias out of jail". He was just sitting there praying, drawing in the sand, developing friendship, and having sexy thoughts. Bless
I totally remember when everyone was still debating whether the bathroom scene will be present in future seasons after the sea whip plot when season 1 was released in 2021.. but now we got a Walmart version of it 🙃 No hate to Freddy and Amita.. Like I believe they could totally pull the canonical CK scene off if the showrunners cared about a steady paced plot.. So far, the only thing I frankly like about this season is the set designs
Bro I thought I could give up hope and get over it, but when I saw them in their final scene together,,,, how GOOD they were if the writing is plucked straight from the books and allowed some subtlety.... I was sitting there imagining they were on the Ferolind and it was 2 different scenes and dyin from happiness. Freddy Amita you deserved better
what made me super duper extra mad was the pekka confrontation scene included the other crows. like only inej is supposed to be there you really think kaz would say SHIT about his brother in front of everyone????? he literally called jesper jordie in the books and refused to elaborate on it when jesper kept asking. and even inej doesn’t get the full story out of him.
YEAH LOL this season took some truly important scenes for Inej and Kaz and just. Wrote Jesper into her place instead. And also Nina. And Inej is now the one with the LEAST context for his trauma (except for Wylan, who still knows Nothing). This is not who Kaz is this is not what he would have done this is NOT HIM
The way I don’t even care abt getting kaz’s backstory anymore in this season and can’t be convinced to watch it bc the show already butchered literally everything else with his character. Speaking of I don’t think I’ve seen anyone even go into detail or talk abt it much which probably says a lot abt everything else the show is doing lol.
NJKnkjnkj you see, the writers just decided to tell us his entire backstory in shittily-placed flashback during the first half of the season, so waiting for his backstory isn't a thing. There is no buildup. No hints. You find out most of it in ep1. Remember how bad and scary it was in the books? Well here it is really lazily shot and cliched and just seems like not a big deal at all, which is probably why no one is mentioning it
@jfkisonthemoon asked:
okay wesper IS being sped through as terribly as kanej. but i do have to say that theyre at least fun to watch and the dynamic from the (end of the) books really is there. it probably helps that the casting is perfect and that im looking for any crumbs of non-ruined book content, but still.
Crumbs help us cope, no worries, that's great for you! But I honestly really disliked their new dynamic, is was very flavorless. What, Jesper just decides to be monogamous out of the blue because Wylan told him he doesn't seem like someone who would do it and also played a few bars on the piano???? It's killing me because Jack is such a good Wylan, they nailed the balance between assertiveness and cuteness he needs, but for WHAT
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l3st1b0urn3s-707 · 1 year
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MARCH 16th!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm so excited!!! Also those kanej and wesper photos are just perfect😭 And NIKOLAI!! Everything is so good, season 2 is going to be awesome
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My review on S&B season 2
So I binged watch Shadow and Bone in on sitting and OMGGGGGGG.
OMGGGGGGGGG
WOWWW
THAT WAS A ROLLERCOASTER RIDE AND I HAVE A FEW THOUGHTS
PLOT
The plot was rushed like it was there is no denying it, but it was also fun in the best way possible. IMO The writers really aced it for TV. You can tell they actually respect the source material and understand it well. I know that a lot of controversy is surrounding season 2 but I would like to point out that I think the writers and actors did BRILLIANT with what time they had. Like I am pretty sure I saw a tweet that said that the writers weren’t sure that they would get the green light for season 3 and with that in mind they were exceptional. They did remove quite a few scenes from R&R and S&S, I really missed alina’s white hair and MAL’s  “I am become Blade tattoo”. And as someone who has read the books I missed the character development that was done but at the same time, I have come to realise that adaptations are different from source materials and it’s best to seperate them both. That way you enjoy it more. And my friend (Who hasn’t read the books) loved it even more then me.
Nikolai hiring the crows was absolutely genius, it was a really good introduction
The Crows having to steal the sword plotline was so good was so goodd
The transition for Kaz’s flashback was so good ( Can I just say that I loved the VFX for this season)
KANEJ AND HELNIK ANGST ALMOST KILLED ME 
WESPER BEING SO IN LOVE IS AAAHHHHHHHHHH IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE
THE ENDING THOUGH OKAY IK UNPOPULAR OPINION BUT I LOVED THE ENDING BECAUSE ALINA IS SUCH A SLAY IN THIS SEASON AND HER USING THE CUT AND I WAS SO HAPPY THAT SHE DIDN’T LOSE HER POWERS LIKE IK THAT THE THEME WAS POWER CORRUPTS BUT IDFC, LIKE LET IT CORRUPT. INFACT I WANT IT TO CORRUPT. I CANT WAIT FOR NEXT SEASON IF ITS HAPPENING 
Zoya having the bee fly near her (...............)
The fight scenes were really impressive like it was done so innovatively.
The plot was like 7.5/10 for me because ik that its a TV show but I still love the books too much, However, my friend gave it a 9.5/10 (She wanted more of the crows)
2 major complaints I do have is that WHY THE FUCK IS DAVID DEAD??????
LIKKKE WHY SHOWWRITERS??
hUHHH??
WHAT WAS THE REASON??
 and my 2nd complaint is please give me zoyalai crumbs, I wanted some banter but I was disappointed.
ACTING
the acting done by each and every charcater was phenomenal. Ben Barnes was amazing as usual, Jessie mei lei added her beautiful depth to Alina’s character, Archie renaux make Mal’s character so much more three dimensional, NIKOLAI, TOLYA,TAMAR AND WYLAN. OMGGG. When I tell you they were fucking perfect like their expressions, their dialogue, their attitude. Jaw droppingly amazing. Daisy was so good as Genya this season like her raw emotion could literally be felt throught the screen. Her acting literally made me hate the Darkling so much. Amita was amazing as Inej, she as born for this role and danielle and Callahan have such amzing chemistry I can cry.  Kit young is amazing, I love him so much. I wanted Sujaya to have more screen time because she is amazing but i know she had conflicting schedules but still :(
Freddy carter though,
WHAT THE FUCK
IT WAS LIKE SOMEONE PLUCKED OUT KAZ FROM THE BOOKS AND WAS LIKE HERE YOU GO AND HAVE THE MOST HEART WRENCHING STORY BE DONE IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. LIKE HE KILLED. HE ABSOLUTELY SLAYED WITH THE ACTING. I WAS FLABBERGASTED. OMFGGGG. WHAT WAS THAT. LIKE FREDDY CARTER IS KAZ BREKKER. PERIOD.
OVERALL THE ACTING WAS A 10/10. I could not imagine a more perfect cast.
Conclusion
I Liked the show, had fun with it. The best way to enjoy it is as Leigh said,” Think of it as a fanfiction.” Sepereating the show from the book is the best thing to do for adaptation guys. I understand why people may not like it but still fucking watch it. IDNC that you didnt like it. WATCH IT. I need my Ice heist spin off. <3
Overall it was 8.5/10 ( ik the average is mathematically wrong but idc this is the rating i felt right with)
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alexlibbey · 1 year
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shadow & bone season 2 spoilers below!
Ok I just finished season two of shadow & bone and I have so very many thoughts!!
Despite not following the plot of the books and kind of cutting and pasting plot points together, I really loved this season. I view it less as an adaptation of the books and more as an adaptation based on the books. If you take out the pressure of the show supposed to be the same as the books, it’s so much more enjoyable!! I thoroughly enjoy seeing this unique adventure the two stories go through.
I think the proposed six of crows series could just be them going on more adventures and stories from the barrel! Maybe delving more into their backstories and relationships and adventures they went on before landing where we meet them and it would be amazing.
Wesper, despite the altered storyline, are absolutely perfect and I love them so much. I want to put them in my pocket. Their dynamic was nailed and it so lovely to see progress throughout the season!
Kanej (as well as Freddy and Amita) absolutely owned this season. They have the characters and dynamic down to a T. I love them so much and they are my all-time favorites!! I also am honestly quite happy with the ending of this season’s ending with Inej forging her own path in the world doing what she’s passionate about. And not just living under or for other people. I truly believe that they come together again, but they both need and deserve time to grow. Anyway I just love them so much and aaaaah.
I really tried to start loving Mal but I really can’t stand him. He has great moments and is overall a good character but sometimes he just says things that remind me of Gale from The Hunger Games and just get an insane ick.
Genya needs to feel peace and happiness next season and Daisy needs all of the awards like oh my god she was brilliant. Also I love her coronation outfit with the matching eyepatch and dress.
Nikolai my love he is literally golden and amazing and I just love him. Literally a beautiful person and character. Also that man has insane rizz like I’m genuinely impressed.
JURDA PAREM AND THE ICE COURT HEIST NEXT SEASON?? I’M SO EXCITED.
Anyway that’s all apologies for this insanely long post I just have so many thought in my head wooo.
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hamliet · 1 year
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Crows With A Side of Bone, Please
Hamliet finally wrote that review.
I'll start off by saying that everyone is a very good actor. Jessie Mei Li has essentially nothing to work with, but she does her best to sell it anyways and still makes me care about her. Ben Barnes is delightfully evil while still affording the character sympathy the narrative doesn't give him.
The Crows--oh lord, the Crows. All of them have chemistry as a group and as couples. Wylan's actor is fantastic here and feels like a natural fit with the other 5, and Nina's actress also fits perfectly with the crew. They do have a lot to work with, and they manage to fully flesh out their already 3D characters and make them alive.
Kanej, Wesper, Nina/Matthias, Genya/David
The good ships, because this season I revoke my like of Malina that season 1 introduced me to.
I wrote this about Kanej. But also more about Kanej, because OTP OTP OTP.
I loved the final scene with them in the finale, where he grabs her, and she holds his hand and tells him, bluntly, that she does not want him with armor on. The line is one of my favorites in the book, and the show did an excellent job of showing the totality of it, the wholistic nature of what Inej is asking for. Yes, she's asking for him without his cold persona, without his bravado. She's asking for his vulnerabilities.
But she's also asking for his body. For him not to see her as broken. For him not to settle for less than all of her. She is thirsty, and I honestly think this was a beautiful portrayal of someone who has been hurt and is wary, but still wants and believes in the potential for good in sex. The show made this aspect so much more forefront than I remember it being in the books, and I honestly love it.
I also liked the choice to get Wylan and Jesper together early on. The piano scene emphasizes both of their respective gifts, and Wylan's fear over what Kaz might do to Alby clearly projects Wylan's own fears about being condemned for his father. (Wylan is actually one of my favorites in the books because his disability is, imo, good representation.)
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Nina and Matthias didn't get nearly as much screentime this season (together anyways), but they made the most of every moment anyways. Even when they are apart we see the potential in how they are still affecting each other. We see Nina's determination. We see Matthias's hurt. We see the pride and humility they both carry, and how both can inhibit and also free them. There's so much potential there.
The motif of prisons, of hiding, is very strong in the Crows' arcs. Matthias uses his masculinity as a prison and chooses to fight over be free because he's scared. Wylan hides his family and disability. Jesper hides his gift. But if you want to have a complete life, you have to step out into the light. Which is a perfect way to segway into Alina, but...
Let's save the salt for later.
Also, not a ship, but I quite liked Nikolai. His character is one of the standouts in the original trilogy (because complexity). His volcra issue being rearranged timewise to be a cliffhanger I don't mind either.
David's death was, just like it is in Rule of Wolves, cruel and pointless. Just like Matthias's in Crooked Kingdom. Give Genya happiness. She earned it. So did David. Love seeing a woman who's been sexually abused and maimed find hope and healing with an autistic man who is almost NEVER a love interest in stories and then he dies for The Sads. Real inspiring. Real thoughtful. There is no narrative nor character reason for it to happen at all, and so early only made it worse honestly.
Show, Don't Tell
Mal tells Alina he has so many friends in the army that he's worried about, but we saw exactly 0 of these in the previous season. In fact, we saw Mal pulling away from the army to pursue Alina.
It was ridiculous that Alina's response to Kirigan in the climax saying people would come for her was "I will save myself," and then literally ONE SECOND LATER Inej saves her. Alina has never saved herself this entire dang series. Not in either season. The Crows save her each and every time! And that's not a bad thing--it could offer something about the power of relying on others, but to blatantly lie to your audience when you've shown us something else... bad writing yo.
I also wish they'd given us a reason to care about Ravka. They keep saying it's worth saving, worth protecting, but... why? We aren't even given the easiest narrative techniques to make us care about the common people (see, Alby making us care about Pekka even though we hate him=a good way of making us care. Give us a child who needs saving, a connection to the people, something, anything. If people deserve saving just because they are people well, that demonstrably flies in the face of what happens to Kirigan, so....)
Imprinting
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It still baffles me that Alina again preaches about choice and yet even fate determined Mal's finding Alina. It was literally imprinting. That's what imprinting is. And for some reason Malina is held up as... healthy? When it's clearly extremely codependent?
It's not a huge problem that it's codependent, though, on principle. It's fiction. What does bother me is the hypocrisy of trying to tear apart every bad thing "bad boys" do while portraying Malina as healthy when it's demonstrably not. Malina would be far, far more interesting, frankly compelling, if they actually delved into this. The cliffhanger hinted they might do just this, but given other aspects, I'm not sure I quite trust them to follow up and follow though.
If you're gonna condemn what some people like and hold up what you like in comparison, at least make sure you're honest about its flaws.
Abuse is Bad Except Not if a Woman Does It. Then It's Girl Power!
Again, the themes of the Crows almost, at times, contradict Shadow & Bones' purported themes. But that's not hard, because Shadow & Bones' purported themes contradict themselves.
I've said this before, but I'll say again that there is a difference between complexity and paradoxes and portrayal the oft-contradictory reality of our world and contradicting your theme. A contradiction is much more common in a simplistic story, which S&B is.
Why is it wrong and seen as a sign of evil beyond comprehension for the Darkling to hurt his mother, who is acknowledged even by the show to have abused him, but not inherently wrong for Alina or Inej or Kaz to hurt their abusers?
Literally Bhagra said "know that i loved you and it wasn't enough." We are NEVER shown her loving him; we are shown abuse, which the show does kind of acknowledge, while also trying to vindicate Bhagra while holding the Darkling to standards it doesn't hold any other character.
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Yes, there's some complexity here insofar as Inej and Kaz's relationships with abuse and revenge go. They aren't black and white, and the characters waffle in the gray. But Alina and the Darkling literally are light and darkness, and the gray is explicitly rejected. And there is actually a way to make this work!
You have to frame it as a tragedy.
Kaz, Inej, Genya et al mess up and do terrible things in revenge; they even at times (especially Kaz) walk the line between utterly losing themselves to it. But they have people around them to pull them back, to reach for them. The Darkling does not. This could be portrayed as something sad, as someone trying to reach the hurting child inside him and him continuously rejecting them (for example, Adam and Blake in RWBY), with his death framed as something to mourn rather than viewed as a moment of triumph, but no. The show doesn't offer him this (to be fair. Neither did the books.)
And to people who say Alina's not obligated to do so! Yes, yes, sure, but also Alina's inherent goodness is just assumed, when she's demonstrably kind of callous at best. I talked about this more in my review of Season 1, but yeah. Nothing's changed on that front.
The point is also that... what has the Darkling actually done to Alina? There were ways to emphasize him as an abuser, which he is clearly coded as, but the show (and the books tbh) doesn't do that. Alina supposedly mourns her parents, but we're given a handful of lines and nothing to actually show us the impact of losing them. (Again, Alina's self-centered focus is actually very much a trauma response to this... or could be, but the story doesn't want to explore it.) The impact of his lies is just not really explored on a deep level like it should be if you want to go for the "abuser" angle. See again, Blake Belladonna for how you do that.
Alina's "there is no redemption" line was baffling to me. It was framed like some sort of powerful "I. Am. Iron Man" moment, except okay, if that's your power girl, I don't think it's a good one.
Power Fantasies
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This is my issue with Shadow & Bone the books as well: they aim to deconstruct "Beauty and the Beast" but fail to understand the appeal of the story in the first place is not "oh i have a dangerous boyfriend" but instead a healing power fantasy the same way fight-punch-kick can be a power fantasy. Shadow & Bone also directly tries to deconstruct Jungian symbolism of the shadow, but also doesn't like, understand what Jungian symbolism stands for. Until the ending, that is, when the writers were clearly like "Bardugo doesn't get it but we do and we're keeping it."
Again, I'll contrast this with Blake in RWBY, whose portrayal I have criticized before, but which is much better than the portrayal here. Blake is herself both beauty and beast, which emphasizes the traditional fairy tale's emphasis on accepting the worst of ourselves and recognizing both the beautiful aspects of ourselves at the same time. We tend to see ourselves as either Good or Bad, but only when we see ourselves as both do we mature and truly live. Even though Adam is ultimately "put down" in RWBY, Blake still acknowledges her flaws and doesn't see Adam as inherently bad, but he leaves her absolutely no choice. Alina facing down the Darkling offers her zero introspection and growth.
Sigh. It's a 2.5/5 for me. The Crows are everything. I want their spin off. I need it. I will take Zoya and Nikolai too.
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mysticmeadows · 2 years
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Hi there!!! Im Marie and I just came across your account and was hoping that maybe you could do a six of crows wallpaper? I saw someone request one for Kanej and thought it was sooooo cute so I thought why not suggest a wesper one? I would love them to have a mix of a yellow and red background with symbols of a gun and firecracker!!! I don’t have a particular quote but I seriously love all their interactions beyond life itself 😍 so whatever quoteyou think goes well is perfect!!! Also if it could be formatted for a phone that would be even more amazing 🙏🙏🙏Thank you so much for creating a fun and artistic community and I can’t wait to see the final result!!! Sending love 🥰🥰🥰
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Hello dear one, thank you for your request! I absolutely adore Wesper and loved making this request! Thank you once again and please feel free to request more! Enjoy the love bugs!
Lots of love, Alessia. 💛✨❤️
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argikiya · 1 year
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First of all, Shadow and Bone season 2 released on the most unfortunate time and in between my exams, but today was the last one and me and my non existent self-control have managed to binge watch it. And I have finally made up my mind about what to think of this new season.
I saw a post that said that for the book readers the series is like a very well written fanfiction. I obviously loved the books but it is like seeing your favorites from a different point of view, and I can’t say that I did not enjoy it.
What I loved: Even though they changed a lot of plotline and the character relationships I think they did justice to the characters and for some made them more interesting. Like most of us can agree Mal and Alina is quite a bland ship, though it remains the same, but Mal’s character in here is way better than the books. Mainly I like his change of story line in the last episode, it was quite interesting. Kaz’s backstory was shown pretty well. His trauma and past was touching and not just another random backstory. Next is the Darkling. I think his character has a lot of depth than the books. His last monologue was my favorite. In the books he is kind of like a pure evil character but here he is more of a perfect grey character and I appreciate this change. As for Wesper, even though I loved the slow burn romance, I very much enjoyed the speed-run. It’s like we get to know more of their relationship after Crooked Kingdom but for those who haven’t read the book I don’t know what they thought of it. I can only recommend them to go and read the books.
The Little things: I loved the little interactions between Inej and Alina. Inej's the cool as fuck action scenes OH MY GOD. The Crows saving everyone’s ass. Wylan saving the crow’s ass. Zoyalai interactions. All the Kanej moments from the books had me screaming. I love the angst. Tolya and Tamar, the coolest duo. Mathias😭
I hated: Mostly these are also the little things. Inej’s backstory, I don’t think they are going to show it more but it would have put more dynamic in her character. Kaz already telling he is looking for her family. NO! You were supposed to surprise her with it Kaz. Nina did not get a lot of action in the second half, she was mostly injured here and there. Kaz and Nikolai interactions was not supposed to go like that. And let's not talk about Genya and David just yet.
What’s next: I can only guess they are going to focus on King of Scars and Six of Crows, if there is a next season (can’t put my faith in netflix), and I guess Wylan’s backstory and his father will be kind of main plot of it, which I am very eager to see.
Honestly the first trilogy(s&b) is not the best installment of the Grishaverse and there is lot of potential in the plot and the characters if they change it correctly and I hope the changes would not be disappointing, while the SoC plotline and character dynamic is kind of perfect, so the less they change on that the better. And lastly, the last cliffhanger had me very intrigued for what comes next.
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