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katkit-drops-alt · 3 months
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Since my other meme posts did well, have some more >:]]]] (featuring one exclusive David and Jonathan meme!)
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anniflamma · 2 months
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"Prayers? You?" David asked, breathlessly as he kissed and embraced the very reason he'd found strength to survive his recent ordeal. "Have you found the Lord in my absence?"
"I think he was here all along."
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towerofbabybell · 4 months
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do you think david caught himself staring at jonathan's back muscles while he was arching for way longer than he should've
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matan4il · 10 months
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Okay, story time.
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Years ago I was writing a paper for uni about a queer reading of David and Jonathan, and why it's totally legit (even intentionally invited by the text).
When I started doing my research for it, I discovered that while the queer reading of David and Jonathan is pretty well known in queer circles, there's very little in the way of actual academic material on it, whether we're talking about a literary, religious or historical analysis of the text and this interpretation of it. I had maybe 2-3 essays about queer reading of ANY part of the Bible. And most of ot? Was actually not that great. Very little of it was about anything objective, most of it was just a suggestion for a different subjective reading of the text. Which is legit, but not enough. Most of the time, for an interpretation to be considered legit, we have to show that it relies on something that objectively exists in the text.
And then I found this paper by a guy determined to DISPROVE the queer reading of David and Jonathan. Now when I barely have material that's in favor of a queer reading of David and Jonathan, why would I be wasting my time reading what was written against it? But I'm a weirdo, and I always wanna know the counterarguments that can be used against me, too. Yeah, even if I disagree with them.
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AND OMG AM I HAPPY I'M LIKE THAT.
Because this guy? Did a PHENOMENAL job at proving that objectively, the bow is the symbol of masculinity to the ancient Israelites. This is relevant because a biblical verse mentions that Prince Jonathan gave David his bow. I'm gonna say it again, this guy proved that for any Israelite back then, regardless of the subjective place they come from, when they were reading the text, what they would get from it is that JONATHAN GAVE DAVID THE PHALLIC SYMBOL OF HIS MASCULINITY. Tell me that doesn't align perfectly with a queer reading...
So why was this guy, who's trying to disprove the queer reading of David and Jonathan, proving the gay potential of this moment? Because to him, if Prince Jonathan has a symbol of masculinity, that means he's a masculine man, and no masculine man can be gay. Yep, the guy writing this paper was so blinded by his own bigotry, homophobia and misconceptions about masculinity and sexual orientation, that he didn't even realize he was handing me a valuable tool to prove queer readings of David and Jonathan are 100% legit.
Why am I mentioning this now all of a sudden?
Because sometimes the haters and anti's of a fandom are actually precisely like that guy, and it both amuses me to no end, and also makes me wonder if they realize how much their efforts sometimes backfire, and instead of destroying my love for and belief in a ship, they actually end up reinforcing it.
If you ever feel down because of haters in your fandom, just remember this.
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sir-davey · 7 months
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I love this picture so much, someone needs to redraw this picture of them 👹
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when jonathan saved david from his father because he loved him and when david spared jonathans father because he loved him and when the love between david and jonathan saved lives, that was something huh.
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tsyvia48 · 5 months
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Aziraphale and Crawly/Crowley in the Bible:
a post-season 2 insight into I Samuel
After killing Goliath but before he became king, David was in love with King Saul’s son Jonathan. Well, to be more precise, the Bible tells us Jonathan loved David.
They could not be together because Jonathan’s father believed David wanted the throne. Saul had a divine jealousy and tried, repeatedly, to kill David. When the king’s son and the future king separated for David’s safety, the prophetic writer tells us “They kissed each other and wept together; David wept the longer.”
When I read this sentence with my post-GO-season-2 brain during the normal cycle of readings a few weeks ago, I knew Crowley (technically Crawly) was there commiserating with David post-breakup, even as Aziraphale comforted Jonathan that keeping his beloved safe was worth the personal sacrifice.
It broke my heart. And misery loves company, so I wrote what I was imagining. I offer it to you now so you can share the heartbreak (and the humor! I Samuel is bizarre and funny. This piece quotes from and builds on I Samuel, chapters 17 - 20). I intend to add an epilogue to share how their stories end (the text tells us they see one another once more before Jonathan’s death), but this is the core of the heartbreak and insight.
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Thinking about how in Hebrew, the Star of David is called Magen David, which means Shield of David, because of the legend that it was the symbol on King David's shield.
But who was the real shield in David's life? The one who would constantly try to protect him from King Shaul and his army, who put his life and honour on the line defending him multiple times?
Yonatan.
The Magen David is Yonatan.
Yonatan gave David his weapons when he fell in love with him, but not his shield. Why would that be? Maybe it's because Yonatan was his shield.
When David sings a surge lamenting the deaths of Shaul and Yonatan, there's a line that goes as such:
"Behold in Gilboa, let there be no dew or rain upon you, or bountiful fields; for there the shield of warriors, the shield of Shaul were rejected, no longer anointed with oil."
It's interesting that Yonatan isn't mentioned in this stanza, but Shaul is.
But upon analysis of the context....David was a poet.
He wouldn't have to mention a person by name in order to mention them.
What if the "shield of warriors" wasn't a physical shield, but Yonatan?
David and Shaul were both warriors, Yonatan never was. He gave away his weapons to David, he was skilled with the bow but the only time we see him use it is to send a coded signal to David. Yonatan was called weak by his father for his lack of aggression- he was always the defender and never the offender.
Yonatan is the shield.
Perhaps when we wear our Magen David necklaces, or embroider and carve them into our Judaica, we are wearing a symbol of Yonatan- a man who chose love over war.
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glitterygolem · 3 months
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the queer Jewish text nerd mood is just screaming crying throwing up about David and Jonathan on loop. bonus for the queer Talmud nerds: screaming crying throwing up about Yochanan and Reish Lakish!!!!
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tomatobird-blog · 9 months
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Devotion
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wowbright · 9 months
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Fic: Out of Eden, Ch. 16, Cedars of Lebanon
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Chapter 16 of Out of Eden, aka the big Mormon!Klaine fic, is up on AO3.
Fic Summary: As a gay Mormon, Kurt Hummel has decided to go the rest of his life without falling in love. But toward the end of his two years as a missionary in Germany, Elder Anderson moves into his apartment—and Kurt’s best-laid plans fall apart. Chapter Summary: Blaine doesn’t want to share the Gospel with Chandler. But he wants to share everything with Elder Hummel. Read it on AO3: Chapter 16—Cedars of Lebanon
Thanks to @gleefulpoppet for the banner! It makes me feel so homey, just like Blaine feels around Kurt.
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jesuisici33 · 4 months
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okay but i can't stop thinking about " love can't help us really. it won't stop these wars" and "i think that my soul could get bound up with yours and maybe between us some peace" and "go slowly, adoni, now show me what's holy, adoni"
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anniflamma · 7 months
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"No man may kill the Lord's anointed and live."
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archiveoftragedies · 6 months
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Marc-Antoine Charpentier was actively trying to make David et Jonathas as queer as he could, I like to think he'd be proud his work has aged so that now it's not only gay but also trans, truly the greatest visionary of our time
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sir-davey · 6 months
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David’s big fat crush
Made this goofy comic of David crushing on Jonathan majestically drinking his soup.
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There’s supposed to be another page of this but I didn’t have time to draw it lol, so I guess wait for part 2 😈 But hehehee, I can see David definitely having a crush on Jonathan even before their covenant, like him coming to Saul’s palace for the first time, and then sees this pretty prince boi, and immediately falls in love lollll, and everything Jonathan does is absolutely gorgeous to him, to the point he be seeing sparkles and rainbows 🌈✨
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future-dregs · 8 months
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the specific part that we were discussing was how David states in his lament of Jonathan's death that "your love was more wondrous to me than love of women." I now understand the reason that they skipped over this at my catholic school
They SKIPPED that? That...that...that is so important to the story/understanding/history of David, full stop. (I was just told that they had a really strong friendship and it was different back then how men expressed themselves/attachment/friendship. I wasn't raised Catholic though).
I dont understand how, actually its MORE suspect that they felt the need to keep it out in the first place.
I'm just flabbergasted here. Cutting out David's funeral dirge. Unreal.
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