The original "Dune" novel showed two villains, Piter De Vries and the Baron Harkonnen, having a well-drawn out conversation around the next events of the story; not reducing them to any moustache-twirling monologues close to the end.
It also showed Feyd-Rautha as the typical teenager, because he was clearly getting bored and wanting to go play a round against Rabban on the Space X-Box.
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Finally completed my nice (and old) Dune book collection, which is relief because for the longest time, I had really shitty editions.
Shoutout to Messiah, who never a got a hardcover release with the “Dune” font.
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There exists no separation between gods and men: one blends softly casual into the other.
Proverbs of Muad'Dib, Dune Messiah by Frank Herbert
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The Process of Frank Herbert writing the Dune series (from my very vague memory of a video essay).
Franklin Patrick Herbert Jr. watches Lawrence Of Arabia (1962).
It becomes his problematic fave, and he writes fanficion; “Lawrence of Arabia IN SPAAAAAACCEEE.”
Franklin needs money and decides to send his fanfiction to a publisher. The book becomes an unexpected hit.
He wants to rewrite Dune to repair the ethical problems of his favourite movie, but the publishers tell Herbert that a rewrite or a clone will be seen as a lazy cash grab that would lose them trust.
UH OH! RENT IS DUE!!! If he wants to pay rent and eat a nice dinner, Frankie better write a sequel!
Sequel 1; The story continues, but the supporting characters pine for a better version of their world by vocalising the problems of the MC’s colonialism.
The audience doesn't get it. Maybe it’s too subtle.
Sequel 2: The MC commits major atrocities, including a horrific genocide. He’s not a god or a messiah. He’s just another worthless cog in the machine of colonialism.
The audience feels bad that their hero is seen as a worthless cog. Maybe he just needs Jesus. That way, he can make up for the irreversible loss of millions of lives! God finds a way.
RENT IS DUE
Sequel 3: The MC has a son to carry on his legacy. The son loathes him. He channels his inner cool rebel, angsty Sasuke energy to tell the audience of children that “pot is cool, genocide drools!”
The audience is vaguely offended that Sasuke said pot is cool and still thinks genocide is okay. Or at the very least, the colonialism was okay in the circumstances of the Dune universe.
Patrick is out of patience.
Sequel 4: Sasuke huffs all the pot in the universe and becomes the king god of worms. With his infinite wisdom, he writes a Martin Luther style manifesto of every bad thing his father did. Point for point, sin for sin. The manifesto is within the novel itself and is roughly 97.8% of its reading. Repeated throughout the novel and manifesto and the novel itself is “Colonialism and genocide is NEVER okay. UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE , IN ANY WORLD , IT IS N E V E R OKAY.”
The audience’s main take away is that the king god of worms is cool.
Herb is out of pot to keep the Jesus in him. He is so tired of trying to just F I X these people. He channels every ounce of energy he has left to figuring out a concrete way to explain to his audience how colonialism and genocide is bad. In his late middle-aged life, it’s the only way he can stop himself from picking up a phone book to find and throttle some nerds.
Sequel 5: Out of the sand and ether, Sasuke Luther King God of Worm’s long-lost never mentioned before normal human descendant appears. She walks up to the audience, hold their eyelids open, stares directly at them within a cm of distance from her own, and says; “Colonialsim bad. Genoicide is a bad. Do not do. Is bad. Alway. O.k.?”
The remaining audience says. “ye. ok.”
Franklin Patrick Herbert Junior finally has a win and dies promptly on the spot from exhaustion at the ancient age of 65.
That’s just my guess, though. Most of what I know about Dune is from Jack Saint's video and a 10-second glance on Wikipedia.
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#DunePartTwo (2024) #scifi film focuses on Paul (Timothée Chalamet) reunites with Chani (Zendaya) and the Fremen while seeking revenge against the conspirators who destroyed his family. Paul must choose between the love of his life and the fate of the universe.
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i want to be very clear that i dont really mean this to disparage Dune, but just as a way to unpack why its story functions the way it does.
You can tell that Frank Herbert was a conservative, not a religious one to be sure, but its there. The idea that suffering will make you stronger and more capable inherently, that sort of "weak men create hard times, hard times make strong men etc etc" energy. Theres an idea that the Jihad is inevitable, and at a certain point it is, but really Paul creates all of the circumstances of it in trying to prevent it, because he thinks its inevitable before it is. I think this might just be Paul rationalizing how every step hes taken has been building towards this, but then again his future seeing powers are real, so Herbet might have intended it to be the truth.
However, despite some of the...misleading ideas about human nature, it doesnt slip into Fascism, it doesnt validate Paul or his Jihad, it still recognizes these as terrible things which should be prevented. Paul is a monster of his own making, and he has forged a nucleus which will cause all the death he once wanted to prevent, he almost seems to embrace it gladly at the end, not regretfully.
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been trying to come up with a BattleTech “pitch” for fans of The Expanse, but honestly?
this is probably enough, plus the official “primer” document if you want actual information rather than just a bunch of pretty images and a banging soundtrack by Jon Everist (who I’m fairly sure admitted he wanted this piece to sound kind of Expanse-y)
or if you don’t want to click links or watch videos:
politics-heavy hard-SF space opera, thrilling heroics, (almost) zero easy answers to the dilemma of the day, main themes are “people are always going to be people” and “the end justifies the means, but there is no end”. obviously this describes both settings nicely.
one just uses that to explain why people are hopping into big war robots and slapping the shit out of each other.
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