#he's not even that fatherly

[art-crumbs-main]

My design for a character concept by @random-internet-teen! She's a good friend of mine, really popped off with this one. He's the result of her basically deciding that Dave needed some sort of force of good in his life, and that's saying something. You know it's bad when any given Hal has a counterpart so much worse than him that he's no longer the evil twin by default. We've been collaborating on a fic about him, and so far, he's such a guy. He loves his girlfriend, and he loves Dave, and he has no idea how to handle literally anything.

#lil hal #hal strider #homestuck #beta timeline #bro strider #fuck bro #homestuck art #fanart #character art #digital art #art #dirk strider #dave strider #homestuck fanart #homestuck guardians #hs fanart #fan character #babygirlifying him #he accidentally adopts so many dysfunctional kids #he's not even that fatherly #heir of blood moment #desperately trying to keep shit together

[420technoblazeit]

i can't believe we got a tumblr sexyman vs tumblr sexyman musical number but it was over. who was a better dad for charlie. truly an unprecedented experience. what.

#i wouldnt have even characterized alastor and charlie's relationship as fatherly but like sure. ok ig. idk if he was being genuine with that #hazbin hotel #hazbin hotel spoilers #hazbin hotel episode 5 #dad beat dad #alastor #lucifer hazbin hotel #charlie morningstar #the pig squeals

[saltpepperbeard]

i love love LOVE that stede had little to no reaction towards the captain's quarters being empty/trashed. like, he reacted exactly how i expected him to, how i hoped he would, ie making some kind of quippy comment about how it works for the space.

because yes, the library was his "pride and joy." yes, he had an entire auxiliary wardrobe dedicated to different outfits. yes, his entire space was decked out in finery and material things.

but at the end of the day, they're just that: things.

you know what matters more to him? his crew. his family. his beloved.

he willingly gave up his wealth to his family back on land, and then struggled right alongside his family at sea. he didn't scramble to make money for himself, but instead tried to get a bit more financially stable for his crew, for his love. he stayed right alongside his new family, and prioritized their wellbeing above his own.

it doesn't matter that those things are gone; what matters is that those he loves are safe and sound.

((and like, also, he is probably going to want to rebuild/get more little knickknacks and trinkets. but he'll be able to do so with his family, for his family. it'll be their collective space, their home and heart))

#OFMD #OFMD Season 2 #OFMD S2 Spoilers #Stede Bonnet #Revenge Crew #Revenge Rambles #and even if he IS upset about it #he seems to shove it to the side for the people around him #like him being even MORE fatherly and MORE of a leader is really just making me hsdjk shdlkshdlssfjk dlf #HAVE I MENTIONED HOW MUCH I ADORE HIM LATELY? ? ?

[nosfelixculpa]

thats not a dog tag around his neck thats a medal

#creations #gifs #games #ffvii rebirth #ffvii #ffvii rebirth spoilers #square enix #barret wallace #cloud strife #barret my beloved #this took so long i thought i was going to Die #nyway this is essentially like a sister set to the cloti one ig #as someone who had barret nd tifa in my party for the whole game i enjoy that they r the two main cloud wranglers #the different approaches they hav r so funny #like tifa is very understanding abt it even when he almost kills her #nd then barret is generally the same but has the capacity to be rougher with him #hav a huge soft spot for the space cadet line #its just so gentle nd fatherly #the temple ones look so ugly im so sorry #i think its the footage more than me tho its just an unfortunately lit scene ig #take these before i die

[musclesandhammering]

Ok but the parallel of Gamora being a scared little girl on a planet that was crumbling and was being invaded by a cosmic fascist who killed half the people and kidnapped her from her family, raising her as his own and grooming her to be his weapon in his further fascist conquests

And Loki… being a scared little boy on a planet that was crumbling and was being invaded by a cosmic imperialist who killed half the people and kidnapped him from his family, raising him as his own and grooming him to be his weapon in his further imperial conquests.

Also: “Everything I hate about myself, you taught me.”

#I’m not saying it’s exactly the same thing but it sure as hell rhymes #I just wish loki was able to fully conceptualise his parental situation the way that gamora seemed to be able to #loki yeah he intellectually knows he was kidnapped from his home by the very man who was destroying it #and he knows he was meant to be a pawn his whole life #but the fact that he was younger than gamora when he was taken and didn’t have any memories of his actual family #combined with the fact that his family allegedly left him to die anyway #makes him sort of cling to Odin as a fatherly figure more than he would otherwise #just as a way to distance himself from his actual parents who he sees as even worse #does that make sense? #anyway #loki meta #loki #gamora meta #Gamora #lokimora #gamoraloki #not rly but tagging just in case #mcu #anti odin #something something something the majority of Loki’s ‘villainous’ character traits really did come from Odin

[kanrix]

people genuinely believe all the stuff alastor said in "hell's greatest dad"?

#well.... apparently charlie does too. #girlie you have not bonded with this man. not even once. #either the writers forgot. SOMEHOW. or charlie is THIS desperate for any kind of fatherly-like affection. #i believe he was doing all this to- #1) gain charlie's trust #or #2) force lucifer into action. aka helping charlie by contacting heaven #the thought of alastor actually seeing charlie as a daughter is quite fun tho.

[kiwikipedia]

it’s actually astounding how quickly a fandom can devolve a well-written Character to One (1) Character Trait They Exhibited Once Forever

#im staring directly at the spiderverse and starwars fandoms #mostly the star wars fandom #but also kinda fate #idk a lot of the fate characterization does come from the fact that FGO woobified its own cast [head in hands] #like. plo is ONLY clone dad apparently and people forget that this is a 400+ year old 'man' who has killed and will kill again given the opp #hes not even technically seen as having fatherly traits towards the clones not to say that i dont like the trope but MAN #all he did was have the basic decency to state that they weren't worthless to him and actual human beings. its not like he went out and #bought wolffe his first car #anyways #kiwiki speaks #im not even gonna get started on the nero tamamo and drake case in fate because that still makes my head hurt

[marvelousartcatastrophe]

If you can’t tell I am entirely obsessed with this guy

#qi rong and guzi #qi rong #qi rong fanart #qi rong design #tgcf #tgcf qi rong #heaven officials blessing #heaven officials blessing season two #tgcf season two #tian guan ci fu #LITERALLT LOOK AT HIM PLS #Idk what to call his dynamic with Guzi cause he’s not fatherly at all but at the same time he’s guzis father #he really is my favorite character #go ahead and ask me why if you dare I will write you AN ENTIRE ESSAY about it #if I was more insane than I unfortunately am I would deadass write tgcf from his perspective just for fun #AND I WOULD IF I DIDNT HAVE SO MANY PROJECTS IN THE WAY #college is dumb and I’ve got books to sell before I can even attempt fanfiction again #BUT I TOTALLY WOULD #maybe I could #like as a string of oneshots ya know #like the flower crown prince ceremony but qi rong’s perspective like “the AUDACITY of that HOMELESS ASS LOOKING CHILD to FALL FROM A BRIDGE #‘THE FUCK IS HIS PROBLEM?!’ #like really dude I have so many things to go running with #anyways #if you dare you could ask me to talk about him and I would just go off #love qi rong #qi rong appreciation

[magistralucis]

Love that despite Oltyx's grumping about how every other necron around him sucks and he only likes maybe 2-3 other people, he's the one necron in canon who's had guardians and protectors from every walk of life. First his family (Djoseras, and once upon a time, Unnas), then the nobles of varying stations (e.g. Yenekh and Parreg), all the way to those of lowborn origin (Neth and Pakhet) who are dearly devoted to his well-being. Outsiders too, like Mentep and Zultanekh, not to mention every Flayed One by the end of his story!

It doesn't surprise me that the final mode of society he settles on as Valgûl is more egalitarian than literally any other necron dynasty out there. Despite the universe trying its best to crush Oltyx's ability to relate to other people out of him, Oltyx was more cared for than he let himself believe, and had more respect than he gave credit for. When it comes down to it, this was a boy who was very loved, and I'm glad he came to terms with it at the end 😭💖

#warhammer 40k #wh40k #the twice dead king #oltyx #necrons #necron #a thought i should have put in the neth post but forgot - i can't be the only person who thought his affection for oltyx was... fatherly?? #he adores and is proud of oltyx to a degree almost excessive even if he weren't getting the treatment he was getting #it's exactly the sort of pride unnas might have once had in oltyx if. well. if unnas hadn't become That #add in pakhet and how she was once oltyx's tutor teaching him to fight and survive and... ghghhghghghg!!!!! #idk it really feels like oltyx had parents and brothers many times over across the classes #the bone kingdom is one big happy bloody family ; w ; #p.s. didn't put lysikor in this post because he does not have ultimately have oltyx's well-being in mind but like #i don't think that's super personal or anything. just trying to build up to a magnificent eleventh hour here no offense oltyx king #he probably did... care...??? idk it's more interesting to think he did

[scootkiddo]

Jerry: “I won’t let you take her.”

Joel:

#disassociated king #one thing about me is I will support joel’s rights #and also joel’s wrongs #so sorry I’m late in saying anything about the finale lol I’ve been busy #joel’s disassociative rampage has not been lost on me though #joel is an empathetic individual but his protective instinct holds precedent above all #I don’t think he inherently held a grudge against or disvalued any of the fireflies he killed #make no mistake he’s not a monster #but that fatherly drive is primal #he had parental tunnel vision that entire time #I’m not sure he even really knew what he was doing #not mean psychoanalyzing joel in the tags under a meme post #the last of us hbo #tlou spoilers #joel miller #the last of us #ellie williams #pedro pascal #tlou #the last of us hbo spoilers #bella ramsey #tlou hbo

[supjello]

"Your son?" "My apprentice, but I think of him like a son."

#pentiment #andreas maler #casper ziegler #my art #it took me about two seconds to go full 'if anything happens to my beloved casper i'm killing everyone in this town and then myself' #'and then no one will be around to solve this murder mystery because we'll ALL be dead' #(some spoilers to at least where im at in the game>) #my andreas loved his son but found no love with his wife #(though he wanted to. he really wanted to.) #drifting off alone and finding this kind of 'what if' when he took casper on and began travelling #and it wasn't fair to anyone involved. not his wife who had to face loss alone #not andreas who was trying to cover up the hole august left with another family's son #not casper (though he wouldn't know this- since he didn't realize the extent andreas really cared about him like a father) #but most things went unspoken and most consequences unseen #so there was just this deep undercurrent of silent fatherly love and worry beneath every interaction #between the two #and it KILLS me even though i know 99% of this was me reading between the lines they let me choose #i wonder if my andreas kind of secretly wished casper's family didn't make it through the turmoil #it's a fucked up thought and i think he'd feel extremely guilty if he ever caught himself thinking it #but there's got to be some extreme dread there about the idea of the apprenticeship ending and this boy he considers a son cutting ties #and really having to face going back to his wife who he (rightfully) feels guilty about leaving. #even if she never loved him #and even if only pain was there to return to #ANYWAY #I FEEL TOTALLY NORMAL ABOUT ANDREAS MALER #edit: guess who just completed the game. guess who’s own art is now making herself SAD

[dykedvonte]

thinking abt what you said with house viewing Benny as a son and I’m obsessed. Like. The man spent most of his life before the war presumably alone, and then after the bombs fell he was alone again, save for AI he himself devised. Then he decides to pull in some Tribes, and one kid shows promise! So sure, treat him well, train him, groom him to be his protege, then next thing you know UH OH he’s got developing paternal feelings towards this guy. Wanting some semblance of a family when the time has long since passed, yet fostering that feeling all the same seems so accurate for him. Benny meanwhile only views him as a boss, and not a particularly good one at that. makes me wonder how House must’ve felt when he found out about Bennys plans

I view it as House blames only himself for this, cause he kind of does in canon (strap in this is a long one).

When reflecting on the issue of Benny, House chastises himself first and foremost for not acting quickly enough when it comes to priming Benny. He describes Benny as being ambitious, ruthless and capable; compliments coming from a man like House. House has an ego and while he is logical enough to understand there was never any evidence Benny saw him as a father-figure, he lacks the humility to admit he let his own views on his relationship with Benny blind him to the activities happening behind the scenes.

I doubt that House was as aware as he makes out about what Benny was doing, he knew early on but certainly not early enough to stop Benny from hacking and obtaining a securitron along with getting the chip in the first place. I take it he was distracted by all the possibilities he was calculating of Vegas' success and growth with him steering and Benny as the new figure head, not because of any normal affection for Benny but the admiration of his capabilities. It's to be noted that House believed menial incentives (likely caps, booze, basic needs, etc..) were enough to keep Benny tame like the other Chairmen but, as evidenced by the Omertas and Mortimer in the WGS, this is not enough when it comes to more driven Vegas citizens. This implies he still undervalued Benny and created a space in which Benny felt the need to rebel.

House in my eyes is not sentimental in the traditional sense. I can imagine his pride was severely scorned as someone he certainly deemed dumber than him was, albeit only for a little, able to out-gambit him. It would definitely hit home seeing how his brother also betrayed him but I feel like that's why he's so apathetic when he tells the Courier to do as they see fit with Benny. I doubt the way he terrorized his brother brought him any emotional satisfaction other than a "Now who's in charge!" ego boost. Putting that same emotional intensity towards Benny isn't worth it because who does it benefit? Wasted time, wasted planning, and most importantly wasted potential are all he gets from continuing to be hands-on with Benny. I say the closest example is not being able to throw out old toys due to the memories attached but knowing it's necessary as they are broken or just taking up space for new ones, and then asking someone else to do it so you don't need to get caught up in the feelings of throwing something you put so much effort into. It's not Benny House cares about in my mind, not in a way that sounds healthy to any non-emotionally constipated individual, but what he could've represented for him, which is why he so quickly offers the same position to the Courier.

As for Benny's view on all of this, it was a long time coming. Benny didn't and doesn't believe House is a completely shitty boss. He admires what he's been shown and admits House knows how to run the strip, but disagrees with the directions. Ideologically, House is an anarcho-capitalist while Benny is just an anarchist. House wants to run the strip to profit, though money is not what he's concerned with being rich with anymore. Benny wants a free state that he wishes to become a place for the people, except for the Chairmen who would be on top (I like to remind people that Benny's motives were selfish but not for personal gain/power as was it for the people he actually saw as family). Benny was never looking for a father but a future. He was not interested in being adopted, or having the chairmen adopted, as bigger names still overshadowed in House's legacy.

Truly, it's easiest to summarize as House feeling strongly and thinking positively enough of Benny to start incorporating him into the future of Vegas (a huge honor actually) while Benny was so disillusioned by House's ego and indifference that he thought the only way Vegas could be the future is with House gone.

#tdlr House saw Benny as the perfect face of his Legacy while Benny saw his legacy as a stagnant mosquito infested pond #its more complex as house certainly would of been irate if he hadn't known and the courier came to kick benny's ass #but more someone being mad youre fucking with their things #i likely thing that even in a more traditional father son relationship House is conditional and would force Benny to confrom more to his #standards as I also believe the Chairmen are more tightly monitered due to bennys unique relation to house and being the first tribe #so itd be smothering and oppressive for someone like Benny even though imposing his beliefs and standards would be how House shows affectio #and fatherly praise which would result in Benny probably wanting to act out even more. like the only way a father son dynamic is healthy an #works is if house would relent some control and show he sees benny as an equal which would never happen cause its house but its still tragi #to me cause house has that longing for something more personal to him than Vegas and tries to fill it with progress cause its rather hard #to create those bonds in the state he is in and benny was the closest thing to that and even that he inadvertently ruined #but on benny house kinda ruined him cause the chairmen for all intents and purposes liked and trusted benny as a leader after bingo who #benny really only killed because of the illusions of grandeur house put into a young impressionable mind and how bingo refused to hear him #not to absolve him of his wrongdoings and being a dick but benny didnt just attack bingo he challenged him and won and in the end while #nostalgic none of the chairmen choose to leave and go back to the old way which says something cause they can leave #this is long and honestly should a seperate post on benny cause i have thoughts on him and how more people need to add his all roads traits #to get a cohesive picture of how hed really act #benny gecko #benny fnv #fallout #fallout new vegas #robert edwin house #mr house fnv #mr house #ask #anon #sorry if this is confusing I have very indepth thoughts on all aspects and possibilites on how unhealthy and power inbalancey anything #with house would be but this is so interesting cause its oddly vulnerable for house of all people to disclose this to the courier

[sonknuxadow]

the answer to the question of "is vector espio and charmys dad or older brother" is that hes basically charmys dad but to espio he is a secret third thing. some kind of in between of the two options. you cant really fit their relationship into one of the traditional family role boxes but theyre family and thats all that matters. btw.

#i love dad vector and i do think he tries to play a fatherly role to both of them since hes the only adult around #20 year old college dropout trying so hard to be a cool dad to a 16 year old and a 6 year old who are also technically his coworkers #well as far as other adults who can be parental figures go theres vanilla i guess but we dont really see her very often do we #actually has she even interacted with team chaotix outside of sonic x and that one issue of idw sonic. #ok whatever ANYWAYS. considering vector and espio are a lot closer in age than vector and charmy #i think they can be more like siblings sometimes. but other times theyre more like parent and child. #again theyre a secret third thing like i said. they dont strictly fit one label or the other

[zeroducks-2]

I've just finished Gotham Knights and I get that people aren't happy with the fucked ass haircuts but like, I do believe this is the most progressive and well written Jason Todd we've ever gotten in recent times. Even in recent comics. Like damn, bro goes to therapy, picked up his interests and hobbies again (e.g. the cooking and the reading and the shit talking) from his "Robin makes me Magic" days. Like yeah, he's still edgy, but he was murdered by a fucking Clown, he's allowed to be edgy. We got a Jason Todd that isn't diluted to "the angry black sheep character" archetype. He's healing, working on himself, his relationship with his family, and he's fighting his way (brutal and all strength and tact) to do what he stands for and what he believes is right. And his heart is just so big and full of compassion, but it doesnt blind him and make him wishful or naive. He's so well balanced in Gotham Knights. I hope this version of his character is written in future comics. I'm sick of DC writers making him this angry anti-hero who's only reasoning and purpose in life is to get back at Batman for failing him and so many others. Jason is allowed to be more than his trauma. Thank you Gotham Knights for seeing that.

I'm glad you enjoyed the game anon. I personally am not a fan, not because of Jason but because of the game itself. The dialogues felt stale, more reminiscent of tumblr "incorrect Batfam quotes" than the source material, and the NPCs felt dull compared to how full of life they were in the Arkham series (so much so I would hide in random spots just to hear them talking about the current game events, especially in AK). The most unforgivable bit to me was Tim not having ever fought the rogues because he's "young" - I've never seen anything more insulting and infantilizing for a character which already heavily suffers for being treated as the useless one, never allowed to participate in the game changing dynamics or to have meaningful arcs, and is relegated to being the cute little bisexual twink.

That being said it's a matter of taste, and Gotham Knights is surely a good game for those who prefer a wholesome loving family approach to these characters. Jason working on himself and going to therapy and having a good relationship with his "family" is surely what lots of people (especially in here) want to see. Me, I don't think any amount of therapy would help since therapy is based on shared human experiences and repetition of patterns, and Jason died and dug himself out of his own grave. That's not a trauma any therapist would have the means to help with. They indeed "diluted" the event in the game, changed the fact that Jason dug himself out of his own grave and was functionally braindead and homeless for two years, and made it so UTRH never happened in order for therapy to make any sense, because there is no reconciliation possible with a parent that slit your neck to save the person who broke all your bones with a crowbar and then murdered you.

It's kinda like when Wally went to therapy (canonically) after Barry's death. The therapist was a good one and he tried! But ultimately he didn't manage to make a real difference because Wally is the Flash, a super-powered creature with time bending powers who does things on the scale of absurdity, and who also happens to have had an extremely traumatic childhood and to have just lost the only person who ever loved him unconditionally. His problems have roots in reality but are out of the scope of any therapy method currently known to man.

And Jason is more than his trauma, but pretending his trauma doesn't inform his actions and can be solved with him "working on himself" is not an approach I hope they take in comics. I'd rather they went back to Jason doing things his way and protecting the people of Gotham in the only manner he finds helpful, because he experienced on his own skin (twice!) that Batman's methods don't work. I'd rather they allowed him to stop clashing with Bruce as main theme of his stories, and have his own plotlines in which he's in between a vigilante and a mafia lord (which they were doing with Dick by the way, before chickening out and have Slade bomb Bludhaven) with Bruce only as a cameo sometimes.

We have a high number of morally irrepressible characters who always do the right thing more or less. I'd like Jason to be something different, something darker, because there is a dramatic lack of grey characters and anti-heroes which were sanded down to either 100% bad guys or 100% good guys. I hate that, why can't we have nuanced choices and people struggling with the darkness they carry, why does everyone need to be a perfect "unproblematic" paragon of goodness who would never do anything wrong. We have A LOT of characters like that and I love them, I really do! But if everyone and their families are like that then it's really frickin boring!

Plus, I'd like the characters to actually struggle with their past traumas in a meaningful way, otherwise why even giving them those traumas to begin with. Give me Tim still grappling with how he couldn't save his father, give me Dick haunted by all the times he slipped and let go of the no killing rule in a way or another, give me Jason haunted by the tragedy of being abandoned by every person who was supposed to protect him and working from there to being the protector of everyone else.

That's what I hope DC would pick up and write about. I was never much for fluff and wholesome things unless it's in small amounts, I always preferred strife and complexity. But hey, I'm glad you enjoyed the game, at least one of us did!

#that game seems to have been made by tumblr for tumblr lol #the characters don't jave jagged edges they're all smoothed down to the most palatable version of themselves #I really disliked that #and sure the Arkham games have been made by dudebros for dudebros #but it's a batjokes fest which I always enjoy #and the dynamic of how Bruce reacts to the AK being Jason is more fatherly and loving than anything else ive ever seen between them #Bruce doesn't even need to forgive him because the moment he finds out that's his boy there's nothing to forgive #and every asshole thing he did with Tim and Barbara comes crashing down the moment he realizes this #he's not a Wholesome Tired Dad UwU he's someone who brought these kids to the frontlines of his war #and finally starts to see how wrong he's always been and realizes that actually he wants to cherish them and protect them #but alas it's too late they're soldiers now there's nothin he can do #Welp that was long #don't be offended anon we just like different things #my asks #jason todd

[bumblingbabooshka]

On the topic of Harry and Kes being proteges to Janeway and Tuvok respectively - both of them developing mommy/daddy issues despite having perfectly normal and healthy relationships with their parents.

#Janeway mommy issues (spontaneous development) vs Tuvok daddy issues (deepening problem) #Janeway will give you mommy issues regardless of your relationship with your actual mother #Tuvok will not GIVE you daddy issues but if you already have them? Brother. They're about to get worse. #<- Why Harry is immune but Tom is not #Tom and B'Elanna are double K.O'd by Tuvok & Janeway #I think Kes still has unresolved stuff with her father since he died so soon and she obviously still misses him #would be enough. #Tuvok just gives the vibe of someone who is not trying at all to be fatherly to others and yet somehow keeps attracting people who have #bad relationships with their own father. #Like 'And you can be my dad' (I don't want to be your father) 'Great! You already know your lines!' #Important: Tuvok will never IMPROVE your daddy issues unless you're a very specific type of person #Like for Kes I think she'd make it out fine but Tom would kill himself trying to gain Tuvok's approval #He wouldn't even know why #voy

[gamebunny-advance]

Random Question Time (Side B)

Note: This question is more about "feeling" than the strict and literal definitions of their relationship. Since 1010 are robots, they can't "literally" be Neon J.'s sons. This question is asking how you think their relationship functions in human terms.

See the sister poll to vote on 1010's relationship with each other.

#gbunny polls #nsr #no straight roads #neon j. #neon j #1010 #no 'just a father/friend' option because no matter how they (or you) personally feel about their relationship #he is literally their manager either way #that part of their relationship can't be excluded in any variation except in cases where 1010 are not independent entities from NJ #as for my personal feelings i think he's a manager first. father second. #i think he views them fondly and he does think of them as his sons a lot of the time #but when push comes to shove business comes first and they are his property to do as he pleases with #but that generally takes the form of him trying to be fatherly when he can and strict when he must be #he's trying his best to be both a commander and a father but he's not flawless and he has higher priorities over them #namely whatever benefits NSR more even if it's a detriment to 1010 or himself #in dsync/gag comics this is exaggerated more but at my baseline headcanon he's trying his best to balance the 2