#lgbtq+ discourse

[belethlegwen]

Every time I see bigender I think it says Big Gender and I think I'm about to read some kinda discourse

#bigender #big gender #lgbtq+ discourse #fake discourse #I had an edible a while ago and it's definitely kicking in now

[gnometa233]

People who are so obsessed with the concept of "labels are meaningless and we should all just fuck who we want" 99% of the time are people who want lesbians in some way, shape, or form to fuck men. I have never been proven wrong.

#anti bi lesbians #anti trans man lesbians #label discourse #disk horse #lgbtq+ discourse #if youre one of those people who just dont use labels honestly you go #more power to you #but some of these people say this shit and everyone on tunglr dot shithole #eats it up!!! #im sick of it!!!

[kitkatwinchester]

Stranger Things Hot Take

Me: That car scene between Mike and Will was such a beautiful representation of being gay in a time when it wasn't always acceptable. It showed how difficult it can be to tell the person who matters to you more than anything else in this world just how much you love them when you don't know how they'll react to who you really are, especially when you already know they'll never feel the same way and therefore may never truly understand you. The fragility and vulnerability that comes with that was so heartbreaking and beautiful and emotional and I was sobbing my eyes out. Then, on top of that, we got all of the emotion that came with Robin's heartbreak over seeing Vickie with a guy (and Steve's protective best friend instinct continuing to be bothered by it despite Robin's insistence that other things were more important) only for them to connect on an emotional level all over again. But she could never really be sure if it would work unless she outed herself, which, in that time and in her situation, would've been near impossible due to fear of what others would say or think. 10/10 on the LGBTQ+ representation from the Duffer Brothers. They are telling that story so well and I absolutely adore it.

The Rest of Tumblr: F*CK THE DUFFER BROTHERS! BYLER AND RONANCE AND STEDDIE DIDN'T GO CANON! MIKE CONFESSED HIS LOVE FOR ELEVEN! THEY HATE GAY PEOPLE!!

Me: ...??? Did we...did we watch the same show???

#anti byler #anti ronance #anti steddie #stranger things 4 #stranger things 4 volume 2 #toxic fans #lgbtq+ discourse #mike wheeler #will byers #robin buckley #steve harrington #stranger things season 4 volume 2 #stranger things discourse

[aria-allium]

being subjected to the horrors (<- saw a twitter post saying that asexuals can still participate in sexual activities and enjoy it be mass QRTed to hell and is once again pissed off at the overwhelmingly negative online attitude towards asexuals and asexuality in general)

#it will never stop making me want to bite and claw and maim #it is such a basic fucking concept. asexuality and celibacy are not the same thing. boom. easy #but so many people are just unwilling to even google the two terms and realize that they’re different things #and the worst fucking part of it is that #people questioning whether they’re ace or not have fuck all in terms of resources about what the identity is #and claim that they couldn’t be asexual bc they operate under the assumption that asexuality = no sex ever or you’re faking it #christ. sorry #lgbtq+ discourse #asexual #textpost #ari posting

[convhearts]

I want to talk about the “bi women with boyfriends who talk about wanting a girlfriend” phenomenon for a moment.

I think this phenomenon exists because bi women are conditioned and pressured to be in relationships with men before we’re even able to get into a relationship with a woman. Therefore, we feel like we’re missing out on the sapphic experience.

I swore off men earlier this year and had a couple of crushes on women and even a “situationship” with one, but never an actual relationship (due to them not being interested in a relationship, etc.). My relationship with my current boyfriend kind of just happened out of nowhere. other things happened that I think led to me pressuring myself to get into this relationship but that’s something for another time.

I am happy in this relationship. I truly love him and see a future with him. But that doesn’t mean I don’t struggle with my sapphic identity. Especially in the beginning of our relationship, and even some now, I find myself craving a sapphic relationship.

This isn’t because bi people are cheaters or whatever other biphobic explanation you all want to come up with. I just miss something I never got to have. I truly see myself getting married to my boyfriend so this means I will never be able to be in a relationship with a woman. And that’s something that saddens me kind of deeply? I pictured myself marrying a woman. I wanted to marry a woman. I planned on it. But it didn’t happen and I don’t think it will. Being with a woman is an experience I wanted to have that I will never get to have.

It’s a grieving experience. These women (myself included) are happy in these relationships with men and know they will likely have a future with these men so they know they will never be able to have a sapphic experience. And that causes grief.

Now this doesn’t mean these women are in the right when they talk about wanting a girlfriend in front of their boyfriends, but it does mean that we can approach it with more understanding and sympathy instead of hate.

#lgbtq #bisexual #sapphic #lesbian #bi woman #bi women #biphobia #lgbtq+ discourse

[burning-thistles-bt]

Hi there! I've done lots of research on sexualities and such so I may have some helpful answers ^^

Basically, bisexuality is when a person likes TWO genders. Doesn't have to be a man or a woman. Like let's use Badgerfang as an example. He identified as a gay man for years and even has a husband but if his partner, Blossomtail, comes out as Genderfluid, then he is considered Bisexual.

Pansexuality(me) means that a person doesn't care about gender. They love tue person no matter what, which could fit Badgerfang as well. He loves Blossomtail, end of story.

Being Homosexual (either mlm or wlw) means the person strictly likes the same gender as them.

Saying that a gay man likes a trans woman is incorrect because even though she may LOOK masculine, she is still a woman not a man. Same with lesbians and trans men(me).

Also another important thing- labels don't matter!! sometimes people just like people and don't need to be in a certain label! whatever it is that they like/identity as, it's all okay :]

I hoped this helped to some extent! I've done many years learning about sexualities and getting genders while trying to figure out my own ^^

Big love,

Sky Doodles <3

not sure if you wrote this before or after I wrote my response here BUT

"Also another important thing- labels don't matter!! sometimes people just like people and don't need to be in a certain label! whatever it is that they like/identify as, it's all okay"

"Also another important thing- labels don't matter!! sometimes people just like people and don't need to be in a certain label! whatever it is that they like/identify as, it's all okay"

"Also another important thing- labels don't matter!! sometimes people just like people and don't need to be in a certain label! whatever it is that they like/identify as, it's all okay"

Everything I say is based around this idea. Labels are not concrete. They are not the end all, be all. Labels are great! Labels are comforting. Labels are helpful. I am not against labels. But pointing to labels and saying, "this is the only option," is just. So. Frustrating.

Because you (ambiguous you, not targeted at you, Sky!) say "Homosexuals are attracted strictly to the same gender as themselves," and then proceed to go, "but labels don't matter!" So... Do they?? Because it's a mixed single. You can't tell a gay man they're not gay because they're formerly male partner transitioned into a different gender, and then go, "but labels don't matter!" Because??? You clearly just made the point that they do matter, that they have to pick a handcrafted label, and that you don't value their opinion on the topic of their sexuality.

And to go back to my previous response:

And then there are the people who say, "But you can't be gay, Steve! You have to be bisexual now! You have to call yourself that, or pansexual, or maybe call yourself demisexual but just for your wife, or have you heard of abrosexual? What about agentosexual? I think that's what you are!" and Steve is just like "I don't know. Can't I just love my wife and that's the end of it? Maybe I'm not gay anymore. I don't know." And these people aren't ill-intentioned. They feel they're just trying to help, or trying to "correct" things. But there isn't always a correct answer, and the more you try to force one, the further away the "correct" answer gets.

Trying to force someone into a new label just because a new event and new information arose isn't... isn't fun. For anyone involved. Is it fun for Steve when a bunch of people are telling him he must be this, or must be that? He's trying to come to terms with his own sexuality (is he attracted to women, or just this woman, who once presented as a man?), and isn't of letting him figure it out by himself, people are shoving all these options at him. And, then, if none of them work for him, and he says, "I think I'm still gay because I still really only feel attraction for men, it just happens that my longterm partner transitioned into a woman," and then everyone is like "NO!!! BAD STEVE!!! STEVE MUST BE BISEXUAL NOW!!! JAIL FOR STEVE! JAIL FOR STEVE A THOUSAND YEARS! WE ALREADY DECIDED YOUR SEXUALITY FOR YOU!"

The point I'm trying to make is that there is not one singular, perfect answer to this scenario. There are many. Maybe Badgerfang does decide he is pansexual, because he is loving Blossomtail regardless of his gender. Or maybe he doesn't, and he feels content being gay, as he already had to come to terms with being queer once, and it's a comfort to just be comfortable with himself and his identity, or because he truly still feels gay and only attracted to men. Or maybe he calls himself unlabeled, undecided, or questioning.

Or maybe Badgerfang breaks up with Blossomtail because he feels his attraction fading for him when he is no longer predominantly masculine. And that's perfectly okay and acceptable too!!

#also: Saying that a gay man likes a trans woman is incorrect because even though she may LOOK masculine #she is still a woman not a man #<- correct and i agree #BUT have you ever heard the stories where a man accidentally flirts with a woman thinking they're a man? #case in point. LOOKS still matter even if we wished they didnt #a gay man could be attracted to someone who looks masculine - but the attraction tends to end once theyre brain catches up w/ the fact that #theyre not really a man/masculine. because. biological parts yknow #and some people dont care about biological parts.... but ive headr enough stories to know bio parts DO matter when it comes to sex #sometimes! not always #lolling response #lgbtq+ #lgbtq+ discourse #discourse #badgerblossom #gay men #gay man #gay #asked and answered #sky doodles #sky-doodles

[raccoonzinspace]

In the light of Twitter refugees coming over ti Tumblr, let me remind you that if you even think about bringing up all the toxic acespec/arospec discourse again, I have the mighty sword that I've named "Block Button" ready.

#ace discourse #aro discourse #lgbtq+ discourse #any terfs or phobes will be blocked if you even touch this post #i'm not gonna tolerate bigotry here

[thatlgbtqfandom]

Stop forcing people out of the closet. Real people aren't "queerbaiting", that is a term for fictional media. Real people are playing with gender expression, real people are nervous to come out (and don't owe you anything), real people are figuring out their identities, etc. This "trend" of accusing people of queerbaiting is harmful

#lgbtq+ discourse #lgbtq discourse #lgbtq+ media #queer media #queerbaiting

[xx-slug-xx]

(Aroallo anon) “you’re the one making things into rigid boxes” followed up by “tight and narrow definition”… come on… they really typed that out and didn’t think it through.

Look, what I’m about to say is said from the perspective of someone who’s never actually felt any romantic interest in anyone and is repulsed by it even if amatonormativity taught me I had to force myself to try it anyway AND from the perspective of someone who has at one point wondered if he was ace-spec and eventually concluded he wasn’t. If you wanna abandon boxes, you gotta allow people whose experiences are slightly different from your own but still closer to yours than not into your community. If someone is 30 and has only ever experienced sexual attraction to anyone twice and both were people they were close to, their experiences are going to be much closer to an asexual who’s never felt attraction in their life ever than it is to an allosexual who can go to a nightclub and find five people hot as hell to flirt with that night OR to an allosexual who thinks people are hot on a fairly regular basis but does nothing about that because they’re “saving themselves for marriage as Jesus intended uwu”. Asexuals and demisexuals have a lot more in common than demisexuals and allosexuals do. Having them in ace-spec spaces doesn’t threaten the community but enriches it. I have more in common with a demiromantic because even if that demiromantic has had like one crush ever in their life while being in their late 20s like me, they still have probably felt the crushing weight of “so when are you gonna get married” and “why won’t you give John Doe a chance” and not relating to romance media but feeling romance shoved in your face everywhere.

And it doesn’t escape me that this started over you being aegosexual. Correct me if I’m wrong, and I’m a little worried I’m gonna offend with this but not so badly I can’t just learn and move on if I do, but isn’t that basically “attracted to no one but still likes porn”? That’s just ace but with a little extra going on. Reminds me of how many lesbians will still enjoy porn of gay men. Or gay men who watch porn with women in it. Those lesbians are still lesbians. Those gay men are still gay men. No one is kicking them out of their communities. It doesn’t make sense to me to kick aces out of the ace community for this. At this point the other anon is not just policing the experiences you can have and still be ace but also policing the behavior of aces. There’s no point to this and nothing to be gained, only something valuable to lose. Eating each other is not gonna make the aphobes like us better. I just do not understand why this has to be a Thing.

Anon, you are very correct on everything you’ve said, and I’m glad you could put it into words better than I could. This argument is so dumb at this point and I’m honestly surprised that people are still going with it. I don’t even know what they are trying to gain from something like this tbh. It’s just harassment at this point and honestly, I’m just mildly annoyed about it lol. It’s so stupid.

What’s the point of policing who can say they are asexual when there’s people all over the world who are actively being killed because they aren’t cishet? Anons and such who keep arguing and gatekeeping the terms others can use seem to have forgotten that homophobes and transphobes want us to be divided amongst each other so that they can “weed out the good ones from the bad”. There are no good or bad folks in the lgbtq+ community to them, because we’re all bad to them. They do not care about stupid shit like who has the right to call themselves ace, or really, any lgbtq+ identity. People like the exclusionists anons are worrying about things that are, ultimately, counterproductive, and it’s what the people who are against us want. When we fight about stupid stuff like this, it also causes us to make no progress in society. It holds us back and causes us to be unaware of what’s going on in the world when it comes to lgbtq+ equality.

And to confirm your statement, yeah, I’m aegosexual and it basically means that I can watch porn and all that. I just have no desire to do that in real life lmao. Porn and thinking about things using my imagination are the only times I truly feel any sort of sexual attraction. My experience is so distant from that of allosexuals and I have never related to sexual attraction in the same way that they have. Might have people call me a “porn addict” for that. If they do, then I don’t think I really care because porn addiction doesn’t actually exist and I don’t care about the opinions of people who use any sort of addiction that they think is real as an insult. If porn addiction was real, then it would be just as serious as drug or alcohol addiction, and people would be treating it as such. Plus, “porn addiction” is actually nothing more than purity culture rhetoric, and I’ll laugh my ass off if the “demisexuality is purity culture” anon try’s to say that porn addiction is real and harmful lol

#lgbtq+ #lgbtq+ discourse #discource #ace spec #asexual #asks

[angry-enbies-united]

Identifying as both bisexual and pansexual simultaneously is fucking exhausting sometimes

You have people insisting that the two labels are mutually exclusive and that there's no overlap

You have people that insist on outdated/problematic/misinformed definitions for one (or even both!) of your identities

You have people that insist you have to pick only one out of the two labels, but only the one that they think is the "right" label

You have people that act like belonging to both labels is impossible and that there's no way one can find comfort and community if they identify as both

You have people that act like one of the labels is redundant because don't you know the other is more inclusive/has more history/has problematic origins/etc? And they're basically the same, so why not just pick one and stick to that? But it has to be the "right" label or else you're a disgusting bigot whose mere existence is oppressive and invalidating

My existence is not oppressive. It is not "invalidating." It is not redundant, or bigoted, or oxymoronic

Jesus Christ, just let bi/pan people fucking live in peace and quit turning our existence into fucking discourse

#bisexual #pansexual #bi #pan #discourse #lgbtq+ #lgbtq+ discourse #bi/pan #pan/bi #queer #and the worst part is I see this shit from other bisexuals and pansexuals! sometimes back to back! i hate it here!! #just let me fucking live! let me be both at the same time! i like being both! i dont want to pick one! #and to other people that are bi and pan at the same time i love u please be my friend

[trifoliate-undergrowth]

Free yourself from the discourse. Saw 2 blogs yelling dramatically at one another all over my dash about whether it was valid to use a specific word to describe an experience they both agreed was common and went "time to unfollow both!" But had already unfollowed one presumably for former discourse crimes

Like I only have so much time on this earth why is this important to me. Goodbye

#I do not care about it #goodbye #lgbtq+ discourse #queer #Tumblr #personal (ok to rb)

[rainbow--skies]

Tumblr users will be like “we need to support all queer people and call out queer people who perpetuate oppression of other queer people” and then you go to their blog and like one or two posts down is them actively mocking other queer people or outright being discriminatory towards them like. All of you on this website are fucking hypocrites. Most of the time the original post where they say this is 100% innocent but something about the wording feels a little off and then you click on their blog and they’re speaking over other marginalized groups and calling other queer people they don’t like freaks and telling them to die and shit unironically. I am begging you to go make queer friends irl and entertain viewpoints outside of your echo chamber in your online spaces or shut up

#random thoughts #i am just so tired #you guys hate performative activism and then do it anyway #lgbtq+ #lgbtq+ discourse #queer

[gnometa233]

I know I said this in tags at one point and maybe made a post about it a long time ago but we have to stop assigning morality to having sex and/or are in relationships. Some people with the worst opinions of all time fuck nasty, even if it's missionary style with lights off. Some people who say the most bigoted, mind numbing bullshit are in long term relationships. I love celibacy sweep as much as the next person but we have to do better. Especially on the so called "queerest website in the world" where it's a well known fact that it is much harder to get into relationships/find people to fuck when you're queer.

And I'm not even either of these identities but some of these posts DO devolve into just hatred against asexual/aromantic peopme

#acephobia #q slur mention #lgbtq+ #lgbt+ #lgbt #queer #celibacy sweep #disk horse #queer discourse #lgbtq+ discourse

[wizardpotions]

in light of the exposed emails about the media obsession with transphobia being a manufactured moral panic to increase conservative votes id like to remind you that we've been saying for years that the right will try to divide and conquer the queer community. and you are a traitor if you are a cis LGB person who let the right sucker you into transphobia and voting for politicians who will put laws in against us. they will come for you next.

#lgbt #lgbtq #queer #queer discourse #save

[golden-haired-native]

To adress this recent discourse I saw

Cishet Aromantic men ARE LGBT!

No other way around it, they are queer and if you disagree go fuck yourself

#lgbtq #lgbtqia #aroace #aro #aromantic #arospec #aro positivity #queer discourse #why the fuck wouldn’t they be queer? #THE A STANDS FOR AROMANTIC AND ASEXUAL NOT FUCKING ALLY

[shoujoboy-restart]

#Disney #pixar #strange worlds #lgbt community #canon lgbt characters #lgbtq community #canon lgbtq characters #discourse #lgbt discourse #lgbtq discourse