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imaginarypeteel · 2 years
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Unlucky months II
Marjan Marwari x f!reader
Word count: 1.4k
Sum: Marjan is having trouble accepting herself
Part I Part III
A/N: I'm not against Islam. i have Muslim friends and we support each other whole heartedly. I am not trying to disrespect Islam in any way with this fic
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Standing there, in front of the station few minutes before 8pm, you were taking deep breaths. In-out, in-out. You can do this Y/n. Yes, she's pretty. Yes, she's hot but she is not interested.
You were just going to walk into the large garage when Marjan along with Mateo and Paul walked out. They looked like they were having a small argument about something but shut up when they saw you.
You awkwardly smiled and waved: "Hi?"
Mateo and Paul exchanged looks before the Mexican stabbed the woman with his elbow lightly and the other man dragged him off to leave the two girls alone. "We'll leave you two to talk," told Paul.
"So... You wanted to talk? Or something?" you started.
"Yes, um, I'm sorry for how I acted earlier. It was really rude of me and I understand why you would want to leave," she rushed sincerely, fingers twisting her hijab.
You raised a brow, "Why do i feel like there's a but?"
The Muslim laughed nervously, she licked her lips and looked around. "Probably because there is," she said finally, "I know you want to leave soon but I was thinking that maybe until then, you could stay with me and hey, if nothing happens while you do that then maybe... maybe you can stay. And before you say anything," the pretty woman shot you a glare, "I know you don't want to be a burden but I promise, you're not. I want you to stay with me. I am pretty sure you are homeless right now anyway."
You stared at Marjan for a while in silence, the gears in your head slowly working through her request/offer.
  "But I've already brought enough trouble to you," you mumbled to yourself.
  "Nah! Besides, when I rescued you from the fire, I got my few minutes of fame," she joked lightly.
 You grinned at her words, "I mean okay, if it's really fine with you," you finally agreed.
  "Great!" she exclaimed happily. "So uh, where is your stuff? We can bring it now and you can stay the night at mine's already."
  You tongued your cheek in embarrassment while Marjan innocently waited for you to answer. "Um, all my stuff burned in the fire," you said, hiding your face behind your hands, so you wouldn't have to see the pity in the Muslim's eyes.
  "Oh... I uh, I suppose you can use my clothes until we get you your new ones."
  Wear... Marjan's.... clothes? Your face flushed like a rose at the thought. "I-"
  "But if you're uncomfortable, we can go buy new ones right now!" the pretty woman rushed out.
  "What? No, I just don't want to bother you too much. I mean you offering a place to stay is already so much more than I deserve," you tried to clear the misunderstanding, waving your hands around.
  Marjan looked at you, chocolate eyes studying your face, trying to understand where you're coming from. "Oh, you're not bothering me at all. Don't worry! Really."
  Chewing the inside of your cheek, you tried to think up the wording of your reply. What you wanted to say was: Fuck yes! I will be your slave and everything else you want. You just have to ask. But obviously you couldn't say that. "Okay then. Let's go?" you smiled politely.
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Looking around Marjan's home, you felt a bit out of place. The obvious Islam decorations made you fear what Marjan would think of you, if she found out you like women. More specifically - her.
  "I'm sorry, i don't have an extra guestroom. You can take my bed, I'll sleep on the couch," the woman apologized, eyes wide.
  "What? Noooo, this is your home. Absolutely not." As if to make a point, you took off your shoes quickly and made your way to the couch. To be honest, it was much more comfortable than the bed in your original home. You could already feel your eyes closing when you had sat on it for a few seconds.
  "I-Y/N?!" she exclaimed when you flopped to your side, eyes closed. The Muslim immediately rushed to your side. She touched your forehead and chanted your name to check if you're alright. After a while, she came to the conclusion that you had probably passed out from exhaustion but she couldn't leave you like this either. She gently shook your shoulders. "Hey! Y/N, wake up!" When you sleepily opened your eyes, she smiled: "Go take a shower, I'll find you clothes to sleep in."
  "Okay," you muttered quietly and the woman swore it was one of the cutest things she had ever heard. The way it made her heart flutter was mind-blowing.
  Holding your shoulders, Marjan guided you to the bathroom. "Oh yeah, there should be an unopened pack of toothbrushes in the upper drawer." Seeing your nod, Marjan closed the door to give you privacy. She let out a deep breath before taking quick steps towards her bedroom to find you something to sleep in.
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  Marjan stood behind the bathroom door, hands lightly shaking as she held the pair of red pajamas. She had to take a few deep breaths to find courage to speak. It was pathetic, huh? She would climb into a car hanging between two walls but felt like baby rabbit when having to talk to a pretty woman. Helpless.
  "Hey, Marjan? Have you found something already? I'm done with the shower."
  Marjan's eyes widened, she had been so focused on her fear, she hadn't even realized that the water had been turned off. "Uh-yeah!" she replied.
  You unlocked the door and reached out your hand, hiding yourself behind the door.  The brown-eyed woman placed the clothes in your hand, feeling warm when your hands touched.
When you closed the door, Marjan stared at her hand for a few seconds before remembering that the couch needs sheets. Once again, she made her way towards her bedroom.
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Marjan huffed as she chose a heavier pair of dumbbells. She had to get her mind off of you. This was wrong. So wrong.
TK watched as the woman kept switching between harder and harder exercises. Clearly not paying attention to anything at all. He wiped his mouth lightly after taking a sip of water and made his way towards the woman. "You alright?"
Marjan set down the weights with a sigh and looked at the man. She chewed on her cheek. The brown-eyed woman sat down on the bench, putting her head in her hands. "Y/n," she just said.
"Y/n? What's with her?" TK asked, taking a seat beside her.
"I-I mean i fully support you and Carlos you know. I have nothing against LGBT but you know... It's against my religion and I keep having these thoughts and urges and-" both of them were silent for a few seconds. "When I was in school, I had them first and I hoped and prayed that it would go away. That I could be...well...normal. But as soon as I got over one crush on a girl, I got a new one. In my whole life, I have never really noticed men. Sure, I found some attractive but I didn't really spare them much thought. Women were always first in my mind. I've never acted on these feelings. Ever, because I know Islam forbids it. But with Y/n it's just that, well," Marjan trailed off. Staring blankly at the floor.
"The feelings are stronger?" TK asked calmly.
The Muslim gulped and nodded. She felt tears trying to break through and stream down her cheeks. "The thought of her with someone else hurts so much," she whispered, clutching the clothes on her chest.
"I can't speak on the religious part but back when I was in the closet, I was probably the most miserable that I have ever been. You know about my suicide attempts, yeah? Well I had the thoughts mostly then but I didn't have the guts to do it luckily. Anyway, coming out and accepting the part of me that could never fit with the cis hetero crowd made me feel better. If I were still in the closet, I would probably still be miserable. But I'm not, I'm with Carlos — the man I love the most — and I'm happy. I don't really see any differences between gay and straight couples, except maybe that the sex is better or maybe it's just us," he chuckled before shutting his mouth, "oh wait I'm sorry. Didn't mean to make you uncomfortable."
"It's fine."
They both took a sip from their water bottles.
"But is Allah really worth following if he is torturing you like this?"
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IM SOREY IT TOOK KE SO LONG, I was writing a full book for my project. Illustrated it too. I'm now back in business
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AITA for not wanting my brother to follow Islam?🐢
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⚠WARNING⚠: This is a reaaal long one and also contains discussion of some potentially triggering subjects.
I'll try and explain this as concisely as I can but this is just a part of a long ongoing issue I have had with my brother. I (16F/X) have been at odds with my brother (19M) over a multitude of subjects. We debate often but the problem is he is very stubborn so the debates usually don't result in anything beyond me being frustrated and his opinions remaining unchanged. The problem is that he has unfortunately started going down a nazi rabbit hole and picking up all sorts of extremely harmful ideas. I'll list some of them for you so you can get a general picture: Denying evolution, the rothschild conspiracy, general antisemitism, transphobia, monarchism /facism, calling all sexual content filthy, misogynistic ideas, hating on atheists, etc. As an atheist who is also aroace, nonbinary and also very progressive, this makes me feel greatly uncomfortable. Let me be clear, I don't think I'm the asshole for opposing these ideas, the part where I could be the asshole is me opposing his transition into religion. A lot of his more radical ideas started sprouting after he started getting into Islam like the whole denying evolution thing and his rampant antisemetism. Also just to be clear, I have nothing against Muslims and I am not trying to say that Muslims inherently don't believe in basic science, it's just the particular circles that my brother has been exposed to that are giving him these ideas. However I will acknowledge the that it might be my own implicit bias that is making me reject his own interest in Islam. I'd also like to note my brother has been struggling with his health basically his entire teen life, where he has trouble sleeping, has barely any energy and this has led to him becoming depressed. He barely has any interests and those he had he's recently said he no longer enjoys. It's clear to me this is why such toxic ideas have appealed to him, because he feels disconnected and lonely. He barely goes out, he barely eats, he sleeps until the early afternoon, he has to shave and shower every single time he goes out and if he accidentally nicks himself while shaving he will adamantly refuse to go. It really upsets me to see him this way because I can tell he is suffering but he will never talk to me about it. However it doesn't change the fact that he has said some truly abhorrent things. I have tried many times to show him he's wrong or to gently guide him towards a more progressive and educated outlook but he is too stubborn to change.
This fully came to a head when we were having dinner together with our parents and he kept repeating the same arguments that god must be real because XYZ or, evolution is fake because XYZ and I would tell him why I disagreed with his reasoning. Continue in circles for two whole hours. This ended with me telling him that he was a dumbass and that he should stop watching religious content.
I feel I am an asshole here because just as I don't want to be forced into a religion, I shouldn't force him out of one, but I feel since he's picked up religious ideas he's only gotten worse. Just yesterday he officially became a Muslim at a nearby mosque. I feel I should be happy for him but I can already see problems that may arise. He has to do 5 prayers (salat) a day at certain times and this morning he slept through two. I also worry about Ramadan since he's already very skinny and barely eating, I don't think further fasting will help at all.
Even worse, he's been spreading some of his ideas to my parents. They don't take on all his BS thankfully but they have absorbed some of the more troubling stuff, particularly his transphobia. I try to avoid queer topics as much as I can for this reason but whenever it does come up I always feel sick just sitting there listening to them.
Yet again I want to reiterate that Muslims are not a monolith and do not all share the same opinions but an unfortunately high number are greatly opposed to the idea of queer people. Not to mention many hold strong beliefs regarding the strict divisions of male and female. I don't know. Yet again, it could just be accidental Islamophobia on my part but I don't think it's a coincidence that he started getting more extreme once he got into particular Muslim circles.
So tumblr, AITA?
What are these acronyms?
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readyforevolution · 1 year
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Anyone who is mature and truly secure in their own spirituality doesn’t feel the need to attack the spirituality and/or religious beliefs of other people. Although I’m a Christian, I fellowship and work with Muslims, Black Hebrew Israelites, Christians, atheists, and agnostics in the Pan-Africanist Movement that labors for African Liberation across the globe. In regards to the African Liberation Struggle, Malcom X stated, “If we bring up religion, we'll have differences, we'll have arguments, and we'll never be able to get together. But if we keep our religion at home, keep our religion in the closet, keep our religion between ourselves and our God, but when we come out here we have a fight that's common to all of us against an enemy who is common to all of us.” That common enemy is White Supremacy and Capitalism.
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bringmemyrocks · 28 days
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I’ve seen discussion about it in the ex Christian community but from your perspective, what makes the “culturally Christian” stuff BS? One thing I’ve noticed is that almost everyone that uses it turns out to be a Zionist with a hateboner against atheists, Muslims and Catholics/christians which goes back to your “Christianity isn’t inherently antisemitic” post.
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I forgot to mention this in my previous ask, but you mentioned on your “Christianity/atheism/islam aren’t inherently antisemitic” post that you really don’t like the term “xtianity” that many jumblr bloggers use. What is it that you don’t like? It does come off as chauvinistic and insulting to people who are Christian/catholic and aren’t hateful, evil or antisemitic.
Thanks for asking me! Most of what you will find below is personal observation and opinion as it's not a well-documented phenomenon even though it happens all the time on here. I wanted to do more research, but there weren't many sources to consult as most of the people who use these terms have me blocked.
I'll share about the terms and end with a personal religious objection to the practice.
I know you’ve read my “Christianity is not inherently antisemitic” post, but I’ll link it for reference here: https://bringmemyrocks.tumblr.com/post/737277867614928896/i-noticed-on-your-about-the-point-saying 
Re: the term "cultural christianity"
So yes, almost everyone who uses the term “cultural Christianity” is a zionist and uses the term to silence disagreement. Some anti-zionists will use the term, but it usually still means they think that “all Christians oppress all Jews under all circumstances except maybe in Palestine” neglecting other racial/cultural inequalities. 
It’s a red flag, unless the person using the term is not doing so in an online way. (Eg. “My family are culturally Christian, so we celebrate Easter even though we’re not religious” as opposed to “culturally christian atheists stfu challenge.”) I don’t want to say that nobody can use the term ever, especially if people find it useful to describe themselves, but Jumblr basically uses the term as an insult towards anyone they don't like, which renders it rhetorically useless. 
I also had a Jumblr heavyweight tell me that any Jew who becomes an atheist becomes culturally christian. Tell that to Spinoza. Anyway.
It’s also incredibly vague. If you want to talk about right-wing evangelical protestant hegemony in the USA, be specific. (Note that this still does not mean that every single evangelical protestant holds privilege over every Jew, even in America. Race, class, etc. all play into power dynamics, and “hegemony” refers to large-scale dynamics rather than interpersonal interactions, online or otherwise.) 
Re: the term “Xtianity” 
In my experience, two groups of people write it this way: Christians writing abbreviations (less common on this hellsite but I still see it across the rest of the internet), and Jews and/or ex-Christians who buy into Jumblr “writing it differently is a way of subtly disrespecting this religion I don’t like.” The latter is what we call a maladaptive coping mechanism if you want to get technical (anti-psych crowd don’t come after me, I come in peace).  
For Christians: “X” is how “Ch” is written in the Greek alphabet, so “Xtianity” or “Xmas” are not actually censoring the word “Christ” as much as abbreviating it. That’s why you see “Happy Xmas” written on cards and such–it’s not meant as censorship in this case. I It’s faster to write and takes up less space. Obviously I don’t take issue with this. Christian writer and theologian CS Lewis often used this abbreviation in his notes. I think at least some ex-Christians may be writing it “Xtianity” as an abbreviation and not as an intentional slight, but you know this better than I do. 
The (ostensible) reason that Jumblr censors the word: Some Jews censor the word “Christ” in any context to avoid any accidental acknowledgement of Jesus as the messiah/divine/etc. I think God and people are smarter than that, but YMMV. Some ultra religious Jews also refuse to write or say “Jesus” and will instead write “JC” or say “Yoshke” or some equivalent. This is not a new tradition, but it is far from the norm in many non-hasidic Jewish circles today. I specify “hasidic” because it’s not the norm in the non-hasidic ultra-orthodox circles in my immediate area. 
Jews who can and do write out the word “Christianity”, a very abbreviated list: 
Religious Jewish biblical scholars Jon Levenson, James Kugel, and Amy Jill Levine
Orthodox Rabbi Jonathan Sacks and every single rabbi I’ve ever met, including several orthodox ones.  
Members of the yeshivish ultra-orthodox community in my state
Liberal Jews who aren’t chronically online 
Just about any Jew engaging in interfaith dialogue (Orthodox Jews are less likely to engage in interfaith dialogue than more liberal Jews.) 
Writing it out as “Xtianity” as a means of censorship absolutely does come off as disrespectful even if the person doing so insists otherwise. And people respectfully engaging in interfaith spaces know this. (But that said, writing it “xtianity” is not that common among Jews to begin with–I had a really hard time even finding a page explaining why some Jews do this, and there are chabad and myjewishlearning pages for just about everything Jews do.) 
The best source I could find is this Tumblr post where user progressivejudaism explains why they do not misspell “Christianity” out of respect: https://progressivejudaism.tumblr.com/post/168917584523/is-jewish-ppl-calling-christianity-xtianity-like
I’m not going to touch on the “does Judaism think Christianity is idol worship” question because that’s a longer post, but the answer definitely is not a unanimous yes, despite what Jumblr will tell you. That’s sometimes given as a reason for writing it “Xtianity”. 
In my experience on this website and on Jewish facebook, “Xtianity” used in a similar way to how Jumblr talks about “goyim” (Hebrew for gentile/non-Jew, sometimes meant endearingly but often used derogatorily esp among zionists). It’s used to say “this dirty religion I don’t associate with.” And that should tell you exactly how much respect is involved. If Jumblr is going to argue that “impact > intent” it needs to apply across the board. (Certain leftist Israelis on this site do this as well, and I side-eye it whenever I come across it because come on guys.) 
I acknowledge that some of it may come from trauma, whether someone’s parents or grandparents lived through pogroms or whether they left Christianity themselves, for atheism, for Judaism, or something else. But this misspelling in order to feel powerful or avoid thinking about other religions’ existence is called avoidance, and it is a terrible way of not dealing with your trauma, especially when it involves disrespecting others’ religion to this degree. It does not address the issue of Christian intolerance of Jews or of secularism throughout history–it simply flips and says “no you” with the bonus (for Jews) of claiming it as a religious practice that others can’t ask you to stop. For ex-Christians, it might just be a way of hiding their posts without alerting anyone who follows the "christianity" tag. Idk just a guess.
Coda, which you are free to take or leave (you’re free to take or leave this entire post; I am not an authority; I am just some guy online): 
In addition to the obvious issues of respect, I have my own religious objections to this practice as a religious Jew. I pray multiple times a day and say blessings every time I eat or drink. I believe that God is in heaven as well as in this world, and that every person is an image of God. I say this because reverence (“yiras shamayim”=“fear/awe of heaven”), and proper reverence is important to me. Being so scared of another religion that you refuse to spell it properly goes against both the commandment to love one’s neighbor, against the Jewish value of living peaceably among our neighbors, and the commandment to believe that God is one and all-powerful. 
The Torah teaches that Jews are not to worship other deities and are not to follow other religions (broad strokes). I believe that God knows the difference between me writing a “+” symbol in my notes and actually leaving Judaism for Christianity, the same way that he knows the difference between me kneeling to tie my shoes and kneeling before a cross, etc. 
The idea that writing out the name of another religious figure somehow gives that power figure over the Jew in question is antithetical to my understanding of Judaism. Some hasidic Jews will straight up not write the “+” symbol when doing math because it looks like a cross. I’m serious. This is our religion twisted into superstition, and superstition is its own form of irreverence. Our God is all-knowing–he cannot be hurt by a “+” on math homework or by us acknowledging that other faiths exist.
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billiejean485 · 7 months
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Okay - a long rant ahead and some explanations.
I would also like to point out that what I'm about to talk about mostly concerns the Christian community and it may not be interesting to anyone else or would just lead to pointless arguments that I don't want to be a part of, so - read at your own discretion after the explanations.
EXPLANATION
Yes, you have probably all noticed that I haven't completely stopped indulging in Miraculous stuff, especially after this post, and the reason is - I am simply enjoying (or have been doing so up till now) the concepts, the fan art and the never used possibilities and lost potential of the show and its characters. Which leads me directly to the second part of this post.
TO THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY WITHIN MIRACULOUS LADYBUG FANDOM
Yesterday, I gave this vid a watch and discovered something I wished I knew from day one of this show.
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Among all the good points, something really struck me, and it was this:
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.... Look.
I know Thomas Astruc is an atheist (or however he defines himself) and that he's a very anti-religious person - but this is downright offensive.
So, what I wanted to bring to attention.... was that this show really isn't just some goofy fantasy x sci-fi mix that doesn't delve into religion or myths - but that that is far from the truth.
Miraculous goes directly into everything and reshapes it to the viewing pleasure of people who have no religious beliefs whatsoever and are, like it's creator, of a mindset that it's all just nonsense, thus disrespecting culture and faith of humongous groups of religious communities.
As an (Orthodox) Christian, I can't talk much about people of other faith, though I know there were also big problems with the Muslim communities. Because of that, I am just going to stick to what I'm capable of concluding.
... You know, we all have the right to believe whatever we want to believe in. If atheistic people don't want to believe in anything, that's their choice. But spitting in the face of absolutely everyone who is of different opinion, especially through a worldwide known show (and directed at kids, to make matters worse) is definitely not alright. We have the right to choose our faith as much as any other individual and absolutely no one should be allowed to say that we should keep to ourselves as some kind of 'minority' and let the 'majority' take over, because they're right since there's a bigger number of them.
Speaking up about something negative within a certain religious community that affects everyone is one thing - telling them to shut up altogether is another.
If you think I am blowing things out of proportion with this.... do a little research on Astruc's X (formerly Twitter). I kid you not when I tell you that I have practically quoted him in the last line of the paragraph above my previous one. Amanda does the same in her video as well.
But what am I really getting at here with this post?
I wanted to send out a warning to fellow Christians that are watching the show and to boost up the awareness to this problem.
Literally... all the problems I've been having with the show for the past two years come down to this. The way the characters are treated, the direction the show is taking... everything. If I had known about the creators' opinions on this topic I would have seen disappointment a mile away, and it never would have affected me as bad as it did.
I stopped drawing for a whole year for crying out loud! And I've seen during that period that many people are absolutely unaware of what is lurking behind the curtains. The show is meant to take you to a certain point of viewing the world the way its creators believe are right, and it's not going to stop doing that anytime soon. What's more, I believe (and I am talking from experience here, from other disappointments in my past) that things are only going to get worse.
The Love Square is bait. The prolonged plot is there to keep the viewers interested. Heck, Astruc confirmed that publicly - it's needed to exist in order to keep the show successful and running. He thinks he's doing a good job at it, and, to be fair - business-wise, he is. That doesn't speak about the quality of the story though. But that's another topic I'm not going to bring up here...
I just wanted to give a heads-up to peeps, who do have an incorporated belief system in their lives, to not get swindled. It's not innocent fun, and that's going to get more obvious as time passes and the creators get more freedom to express their opinions.
I'm sorry if you've invested yourselves in this show as much as I have. I truly believed there wasn't another system directed against religion somewhere in its shadows and that it was a safe watch - however, it isn't. If you do have a life dedicated to something this show is against, all I can tell you is - re-evaluate what you're watching here.
For all the rest of you.... I suppose I have nothing to say. If you read all the way up to here and still disagree with me... well, feel free to do it. But I have no discussion to be made with you.
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'Scary' Islam Is Recruiting Woke 'Useful Idiots' - Yasmine Mohammed (4K...
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Yasmine Mohammed is an ex-Muslim who speaks out against the extreme religion, and how woke useful idiots are being used against us. She was forced to marry an al-Qaeda terrorist, but has since escaped and now speaks out with incredible bravery. #heretics​ #islamist​ #usefulidiots​
Follow her on X:    / yasmohammedxx  ​
Subscribe to her channel: @YasmineMohammedxx​
More info:
Through her initiative Free Hearts, Free Minds, she supports closeted ex-Muslims from Muslim-majority countries and co-ordinates an online campaign called #NoHijabDay​ against World Hijab Day. She also has a website and hosts an online series on YouTube called Forgotten Feminists.
Mohammed has been interviewed by Sam Harris, Seth Andrews, and several news outlets from multiple countries, and in 2019 self-published the book Unveiled: How Western Liberals Empower Radical Islam.
Chapters:
0:00​ Highlights
1:30​ % of Scary Muslims
5:30​ Why Worse Than Other Religions
8:30​ Is There Something About the Text?
11:30​ Is Islamophobia Racist?
14:05​ Can you be an atheist Muslim?
16:30​ Yasmine’s Past - What Was I Thinking?
19:10​ What Did Allah Look Like in Your Mind?
21:30​ Yasmine’s Bravery (Insane!)
23:30​ Salman Rushdie Said This
25:20​ Yasmine’s Incredible Story
31:30​ Marrying an al-Qaeda terrorist
35:30​ Covering Herself in Black
38:30​ The Beatings She Took
43:30​ The Ideology Ruins Love
46:00​ Where Islamist Palestine Turned
49:30​ Palestine Like ISIS? Using Western Students
52:30​ Strippers for Gaza / Useful Idiots
55:30​ The Plot to Take Over The West
58:30​ Katharine Birbalsingh & Michaela School
1:00:30​ Maajid Nawaz
1:04:10​ A Heretic Yasmine Admires
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racefortheironthrone · 3 months
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Someone joked about diversity in the MCU and while I think their intention was to roll their eyes at representations of Christian characters: I do think the MCU has noticeably cut back on overtly Christian (and Catholic) characters. Given how the MCU has gone out of their way to show Muslim characters, atheists and Jews (among others, and this is something that is both overdue and just), should the MCU also show positive Christian characters and does this make the world a richer one?
I don't know if I would agree that the MCU has cut back on overtly Christian and Catholic characters. Matt Murdock would certainly qualify, even if one might quibble about the complicated relationship between Marvel Television and the MCU prior to the reorganization. Steve Rogers certainly made mention of his religious faith in The Avengers, for example.
However, I think a lot of it comes down to which characters the MCU has featured, because religious faith isn't a particularly common character element for superheroes. Next to Daredevil, Nightcrawler is one of the most prominent superheroes of faith (to the extent of temporarily joining the priesthood), and he's yet to appear in the MCU. Indeed, when that happens (and I do expect him to be in the X-Men lineup), I hope that they avoid pigeonholing him with religion being his one defining character trait as was the case in the Fox franchise.
To me, Nightcrawler requires a balance and synthesis between his religious side and his swashbuckling ladies' man side - and we haven't really seen the latter before.
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macksting · 2 months
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I'm gonna try to find other places my favorite people here are, that are not X or Tumblr. I'm gonna try to retain my contacts here. But I'm leaving again. I don't feel a need to get myself banned to make some point, and it looks like that's easy to do for now. He wants us off this site? Fine, I'll go. There's better places to be anyway.
But before I go.
I apologize in advance to any Christians who feel unfairly hurt by what I'm about to say, but: I don't hate Christianity, but I hate being unable to escape it anywhere I go. In the same way that a Christian atheist may still have a rabid hatred of Muslims, I find Christian and ex-Christian trans women still want our suffering to be holy, to be martyrs. Mostly they don't go running into the mouth of hell to suffer, if nothing else because that'd hurt and most of them aren't that devoted to this mindset; and some of us fly too close to the sun not out of masochistic death cultism but out of just being at heart a bunch of pains in the ass, so I ain't talking about that either. I'm talking about needing to be seen as suffering, as more suffering than others, as a kind of social oneupsmanship. And it's not better to do so in some kind of communion or solidarity or whatever, it's still ridiculous no matter how you do it.
We should be learning about the means of each other's oppressions, to better understand our own, not turning it into a fucking pissing contest.
And I cannot escape these mindsets. I see these baffling crab-bucket behaviors in these shitty online spaces that I almost never see in real life, with real world groups and people, because... iunno, maybe because I live in the PNW and a lot of folks didn't grow up being told that suffering is the highest form of virtue and therefore that if you are not suffering enough then you are not virtuous enough, and since real suffering sucks, it's best to just make people accept that the level of suffering you're going through, which is bad, is superior and unique and untouchably awful.
My friend Michael says it's also kind of a white thing. By creating a hierarchy of who is most oppressed and placing yourself on top, you can make yourself feel immune to criticism, and apparently this is just something a lot of white folks feel they need. Myself, iunno, I'm white too, I hope I don't do that, but I suspect my particular brand of OCD means my anxieties in that regard can't be alleviated without significant therapy and medication, which is not better but it does seem to make me a little less likely to try to put myself on top of hierarchies out of sheer terror of myself.
I seriously cannot escape this shit. I dunno how much I've got to go dismantling my own bullshit, but at least I wasn't raised Christian. It must be so exhausting. If you see me posting something positive that's happening, believe me, it's not intended as toxic positivity. It's intended as a radical statement that a better world is possible. It's radically asserting that life is not pain, and that our pain has causes that can be dealt with. And I dearly do hope it pisses someone off to see someone living their best life in spite of the horrors. A car outside our homeless shelter says, "Birds sing after the storm, so shall we," along with countless Christian statements scrawled all over it, and I am not waiting for some storm to pass. It won't pass in my lifetime. I'm singing now. And some of those songs are happy, and some of those songs are angry, and some are both.
If all you want is the aesthetics of suffering or the aesthetics of social justice, fuck off. I don't need more Christendom. I'm trapped in this place, and I am so fucking tired of it. I feel like Shrek yelling at Donkey, "can you please stop being yourself for five minutes!"
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clodiuspulcher · 2 years
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as america slides further & further into christofascism, it is absolutely required for, especially white & culturally christian, atheists/agnostics to stand and ally w/ members of minority religions (basically all non christians).  they have ALWAYS been there for me - being raised non religious & having no religious knowledge or affiliation made childhood in a texas suburb extremely difficult and at times traumatizing. i felt like i wasnt even allowed to ask questions; to admit ignorance would have meant 'outing’ myself as an outsider, opening myself up to further marginalization.  but when I went to high school, I had Jewish, Muslim, and Hindu classmates. and our english teacher once looked around the class and realized she had to explain some christian themes/aspects of whatever book we were reading. there were finally other kids who didnt pray before or after sporting events or talk about ‘what the bible said’ about x or y issue as if we were all expected to know.  its really important that we don’t go down the atheist youtuber -> islamophobic reactionary pipeline & realize we are all under threat from the same violent forces & our only hope of fighting it is if we all stand together
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najia could I ask for some religious advice? it's not too theological, just an internal dilemma I've been having, as I know you're not particularly religious but we're both muslims and I figure you'd come to a better conclusion about this than me lol. no worries if you'd rather not xx.
you can feel free to ask! I’m not sure I will be too helpful though as I am actively an atheist (just keep Muslim holidays for cultural reasons), so anything like “how do you reconcile x with belief in y god” is not something I’ll have experience with.
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slowlivinggirlie · 4 months
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As a Muslim woman, it's nice to see positivity and love for Jesus may peace be upon him (Isa alayhi-salam as we refer to him).
Have you always been Christian? And what is your favourite part of the Bible?
With love! X
Hello! Thank you for such a sweet message! 🥰
I haven’t always been Christian. I was raised as an atheist by my parents. But a couple years ago I found God and my life has never been better!
My favorite verse is Psalms 40:1-3
“I waited patiently for the LORD; he turned to me and heard my cry. He lifted me out of the slimy pit, out of the mud and mire; he set my feet on a rock and gave me a firm place to stand. He put a new song in my mouth, a hymn of praise to our God.”
It reminds me of my experience of before and after God!
I’m so glad that there’s so many religious girls here on tumblr 💗💗💗
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Genuine question (asking on anon bc I don't have an account I just occasionally lurk): what language would you prefer we use to distinguish atheists from different cultural backgrounds from one another? Because there are very salient differences between cultural upbringings and plenty of people want to hold onto various cultural trappings even while (at worst) being traumatised by organised religion of any kind. And even the normative culture of a society needs a name that isn't 'normal' (1/2)
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Generally I think “atheists from an X background” works - I know that sounds like I’m just being really pedantic, but it loses the forcible labeling that “cultural Christian” does. It also allows for diversity - an American atheist from an evangelical background and an American atheist from a Muslim background both come from a country whose culture is Christian in nature, but they’re going to have very different experiences with Christianity and atheism.
But the other reason I object to “cultural Christian” that a shift in language won’t fix is that it shifts the onus of a structural, societal problem onto individuals, and specifically onto atheists, as though atheists are one cohesive group who can all be stereotyped and who aren’t also suffering under Christian hegemony.
And because Christian hegemony is a societal problem, upholding Christian hegemony isn’t exclusive to Christians or ex-Christians in the same way that upholding the patriarchy isn’t exclusive to men. I’ve heard from Jews and Muslims who’ve been pressured into Christmas celebrations by other Jews and Muslims - it’s much less common of course, but it does happen. Shifting all the blame to “cultural Christians” is shifting the problem from bad behavior, which can be exhibited by anyone, to a specific identity, which can’t be changed and shouldn’t be stereotyped.
So ultimately my answer is that I think the problem of Christian cultural hegemony is not gonna be solved by picking out which atheists are specifically responsible for it and we should focus on calling out the actual harmful actions being done instead.
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Coldest take ever: the backlash against political atheism was partly because Jews are often stereotyped as atheists, and lots of hardcore lefties will defend Hamas to the death. To a lesser extent the backlash against atheism was also when woke people started getting influenced by Afrocentrism and Indigenismo, which never worked with anti-clerical atheism the way it worked with the elitist strains of Marxism.
i think you're overcomplicating it. i don't remember political atheists being pro judaism either. and the backlash seemed the type to say 'actually judaism and islam are great, when you talk about religion you actually mean christianity sweaty :)'. From what i remember the political atheist attitude to I/P wasn't really to think of israel as the more atheist side (while secular jews are a thing i don't think that was really a stereotype about israel?), it was more 'look at I/P, it shows how religion causes war, if it weren't for religion I/P would be solved'. Which is giving a bit too much importance to religion there but then you get the overcorrection of people going 'actually religion doesn't matter at ALL and believing that god will send you to hell for x and heaven for y has no effect on your behaviour at all :) religion is just set dressing and has no effect on geopolitics'.
the US (and in particular bush/ republicans) and its allies are at war with a bunch of muslim countries and the whole war on terror thing were certainly a massive part of it, and I/P does contribute to that a bit, but i think afghanistan/ iraq played a bigger role. IMO its more about 'my opponent says islam is bad, my opponent is wrong about everything, so islam actually has nothing wrong with it'. It's an enemy of my enemy is my friend thing.
and like, the fundie republican reasons to dislike muslims WERE stupid a lot of the time! most muslims aren't even particularly religious or extremist the same way most christians aren't, fundie muslims and fundie christians agree on a ton of things, if it weren't for the war on terror stuff i could easily have seen muslims being a big republican bloc when it comes to socially conservative stuff (especially like, LGBT issues and even abortion even if islam isn't as strict on it as catholicism). Similar to how if the republicans weren't weirdly racist about a lot of stuff i could see a lot more religious black people being republican. which might tie into your thing about afrocentrism, i don't know.
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imarawbu · 1 month
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So since I saw that video from my ex's brother's wedding in my feed I have had the flashbacks resume full time really bad. I've not told anyone, no need to say anything. I really wish I had just ended my life back then a few weeks before I met my ex just like I had planned to before I did something dumb and called a helpline where they forced me into the hospital where I met my ex.
There was no way to get away from my family back then, even when I ran away to Canada with my ex, we ended up back here. I ended up back with my parents after the divorce. Idk I probably won't go back with them as there's no way for me to especially with my daughter after this divorce. Besides I am not leaving until I'm financially secure anyways and can stay where I am. I know what will happen if I go back with them.
Financial security is all I want and need now. Lol. So does everyone else in this shithole country with few exceptions. There's no point getting remarried, I am already isolated from everyone and I have a kid so no friends. The social groups I had before marriage are all dormant and gone as everyone has moved on in life now. Maybe I can find a way to double my own investments and find a way to gain total financial freedom for a couple of years, go back to school and finish a degree, no job pays decently anymore for college degrees though. I probably wouldn't get any better pay than what I get at this job. I want a degree(s) to showcase intelligence not really for a specific job- but that's not an option with a kid, especially as a single mother.
I messed my life up, yeah I know. No need to tell me. I am always quite aware of what's my fault, I just don't go around saying it all the time. I try to give myself the benefit of the doubt instead.
This Ramadan series I mentioned is called why me and so there are other things that obviously resonate with people in hard times. Other videos about how praying Istikharah turned out to not bring a good end, how blessings or things you really want are withheld from you because the idea is to elevate your status or prevent you from falling into sin are pretty relevant to me- obviously.
I used to be an atheist before I met my ex husband. Yeah, one of the worst humans that exists on this planet was part of the reason I decided to become Muslim (I'm not really going to give him credit for anything because he didn't do anything, it's mostly the fact that I liked him and studied up on his religion that got me into Islam). These kind of things you see as an atheist and the knee jerk reaction is to say well there obviously no god because he could just do X and nobody would suffer. This was why I was so militantly atheistic (a long with the belief in logic and science somehow proved the lack of a god.) looking back it seems so immature and juvenile to be an atheist and go around talking so sure of yourself and that you, a being on a tiny speck on he edge of a galaxy thats an even tinier speck compared to this universe has all the answers and knows how things should function and be.
Lol. I'm sure that will get a lot of atheists mad. I don't really care. There's nothing logical or scientific about atheism, agnosticsm, maybe, at least you admit you don't know everything. Once you write a scientific paper and get published. Your view on science, the scientific method, really change. Maybe that's more apparent after all the stuff related to the COVID and the vaccine, if you were paying attention into the science community and having to pivot every couple of weeks until the realization came that nobody if following any evidence of anything, COVID or otherwise. I'm not anti vax, I'm just saying how things developed. I wrote a couple papers on COVID. It's very boring and uninteresting, I read through 1000s of papers, no joke, to get references. You realize after awhile, yes, we have the scientific method but these experiments we do are not always reproducible, especially in biology. You can do the same test 5 times and you will get different results every time, if the results are similar or reveal a pattern then you use that as evidence. It is very similar when it comes to things you have no evidence for, at some point the evidence doesn't support anything and humans have pattern recognition and so you can logically go with that because there are no exact answers. Then you can be angsty, be an atheist, and say the lack of evidence is evidence for your position and make leaps about what you would do as an all powerful being when you can't even master your own mental health. Anyways enough on atheists, probably what I wrote doesn't even make sense.
I'm not perfect but I never did anything to have to grow up with parents that made me the scape goat and blamed me for everything. When I tried to leave, I ended up in an abusive marriage. Coming back was literally suffering and tried to escape again to the same thing but a little less abusive with a kid in tow now. You should have done this, you shouldn't have done that. Yes. I know. Not helping. Where should I have learned that? Osmosis? I got that after the fact. Who should have taught me? Parents? Really? Interesting. Let's go back to what I said at the beginning. Is my messed up life my fault? Yes and no. Yes, I did it, I did somewhat know better but that option was better than my current reality. No, it's not my fault, why should I have to choose between known horrible and potentially horrible? Isn't there a non- horrible option? Homelessness? How would that be helpful..
Anyways this is long enough. Nobody reads these things but me.
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stirlingmoss · 3 months
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X Believers, when refugee women believers come to you, examine them —God knows their faith best— and if you recognize them as believers, then don’t return them to the atheists: these women are not lawful wives for them, and they are not lawful husbands for these women. But give them what they have spent. And there is no blame on you if you marry them, provided you give them their dowries. But don’t maintain guardianship over atheists— ask for what you have spent, and let them ask for that they have spent. That is the judgment of God, judging between you. And God is most knowing, most wise.
{Note Number : 5422 Under the treaty of Hudaibiya [see Introduction to S. xlviii, paragraph 4, condition (3)], women under guardianship (including married women), who fled from the Quraish in Makkah to the Prophet's protection at Madinah were to be sent back. But before this Ayat was issued, the Quraish had already broken the treaty, and some instruction was necessary as to what the Madinah Muslims should do in those circumstances. Muslim women married to Pagan husbands in Makkah were oppressed for their Faith, and some of them came to Madinah as refugees. After this, they were not to be returned to the custody of their Pagan husbands at Makkah, as the marriage of believing women with non-Muslims was held to be dissolved if the husbands did not accept Islam. But in order to give no suspicion to the Pagans that they were badly treated as they lost the dower they had given on marriage, that dower was to be repaid to the husbands. Thus helpless women refugees were to be protected at the cost of the Muslims.
Note Number : 5423 The condition was that they should be Muslim women. How were the Muslims to know? A non-Muslim woman, in order to escape from her lawful guardians in Makkah, might pretend that she was a Muslim. The true state of her mind and heart would be known to Allah alone. But if the Muslims, on an examination of the woman, found that she professed Islam, she was to have protection. The examination would be directed (among other things) to the points mentioned in verse 12.
Note Number : 5424 As the marriage was held to be dissolved (see n. 5422), there was no bar to the remarriage of the refugee Muslim woman with a Muslim man on the payment of the usual dower to her.
Note Number : 5425 Unbelieving women in a Muslim society would only be a clog and a handicap. There would be neither happiness for them, nor could they conduce in any way to a healthy life of the society in which they lived as aliens. They were to be sent away, as their marriage was held to be dissolved; and the dowers paid to them were to be demanded from the guardians to whom they were sent back, just as in the contrary case the dowers of believing women were to be paid back to their Pagan ex-husbands (n. 5422).}
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