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tmcsartstuff · 1 month

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If Val still abuses Vox like stated in the old lore, would he and Angel be able to relate?

Tw: discussions of abuse

If you weren’t back in the early days of the fandom, back then we barely knew anything about Vox. All we knew was a few limited and obvious things like he was an entertainment overlord and one of the three Vees.

However, one of the things we later learned about him in a livestream is that him and Val are in some sort of relationship and that Val is obviously abusive towards him.

This was a part of the old lore and while I’m sure Val can get violent from time to time, it seems from episode two that this new idea of Vox has a lot of control over Val’s anger and wouldn’t really allow him to crack or break his screen.

But back then we didn’t know this. Remember when we thought Val would be the leader of the Vees?

Considering that we also still thought the Voxtagram stories a were canon and Val is shown to break Vox’s screen often, we had a very different interpretation of him.

And with the popularity of amazing fan song ‘eyes on me’ from paranoid dj that also shows their relationship as abusive at the end of the video, this was all we thought their relationship would be like. (Ok but honestly eyes on me is amazing I listen to it like every week)

Now, how did this relate to angeldust?

We knew a lot more about Angeldust because he is part of the main cast, and when addict released the show was making it very obvious that Val was his boss, abuser, and that hurts and affects him daily.

When the show released we get a sneak peak of how manipulative Val is in episode 2 when he convinces Angel to come to the studio, but it is the worst in the infamous episode.

This episode’s entire theme is about Val and just how horrible he treats Angel and has no regards for his feelings, body, or well being.

I could go into more detail on just how bad Val is to Angel, but that’s a sensitive topic that’s been discussed to death already.

But as we see at the end of ‘poison,’ Vox gives Angel a look that I can only describe as smug jealousy.

Which Vox, I love you, but that is disgusting.

In this frame it’s shown to us that Vox is jealous of Angel because Val focuses a lot of his time on Angel and not him, but… Angel is literally getting raped without his consent?

Vox may be Val’s on and off boyfriend, but he’s very aware of what Val does to his employees, especially Angel. It’s part of why he works with him.

But comparing someone who youre partly letting get abused in your workplace by you’re friend and work partner to jealously because they are getting abused and beat by that person daily to be jealous of because Angel spends more time with Val than he gets to?

I’m sorry Vox, but that sickens me to an extreme level.

Of course I could just be reading to far into that one frame, but in the context of the show Vox is an egotistical overlord who is already shown to not care for his own employees. So why would he care about what Val does to his?… except when they are the source of his anger and time.

Now, theoretically, let’s say that in the new lore Val is still abusive to Vox at times. Ignoring how close they were in the finale song in episode 8.

Val is poison to everyone around him, even the people he’s the closest to.

Would Vox and Angel be able to bond over this? I say no.

Angel is a sinner, which is on the lower part of the class system in hell. It’s normalized that someone like him can be treated however it applies to a contract they signed.

There’s no sympathy for him by others except when they care for him and what it makes Angel do to himself (Husk) or when they know just what goes down in that studio (Charlie)

But I highly doubt Angel and Vox are any sense of close.

Vox mainly works on his floor, and Angel works in the studio. They obviously have met and vox still has that.. *ew* resentment to Angel, but that’s really it.

Now, vox on the other hand, is a powerful level who is on the same level, if not more powerful that Valentino because he’s the leader of the Vees.

Even if Val abuses him sometimes, he’s probably… into that.

Look at that waist and tell me that man isn’t a bottom, you get the point.

Val and Vox’s story hasn’t been told to us yet, but by using background information like a old picture of them from presumably the 70’s and how close they seem, I theorize they met a little after Val died and teamed up to become more powerful. They were a little attracted to one another, but it never did and still isn’t official, even if they look and act gay as hell. (Heh)

So Vox is on the same level as Val and has been close to him for 50+ years. They’ve had plenty of good moments, even if they are both awful people.

Oh yeah, let’s talk about that.

Since Vox is also on the same level as Val, he still is a awful person as well see in episode 2,4, and 8. (His appearances)

Even if he Dosent sexually assault his employees, he still treats them horribly, as does Velvette. I assume this is common practice for overlords to treat their souls poorly, but it’s still not a good practice. I feel bad for the fish guy who had to make angelic security on the spot, he looks as stressed as me.

He hypnotizes people into trusting him and buying his technology, which is just evil businessman behavior. Someone said he reminds them of lord business from the LEGO movie, and I see it.

He is also very petty towards Alastor in almost every way, immediately trying to brainwash his audience to not listen to him.

I’m not saying being petty is a sign of being a awful person, but for Vox it contributes.

There’s the… look in episode 4, which I’ve already discussed, but it’s important to note that Vox is in Val’s studio DURING Val shooting and mistreating his stars.

If he regularly does this is then he is more than aware of what Val does to his employees and only gives them disgusted stares back. Like all he sees in them is what Val sees, useless whores for content.

Which is obviously not good lmao

And then in episode 8 (and partly episode 6 if you look into it)

Vox is shown to have spying technology all over the city which is how he regulates his users behavior. He uses this tech to spy on alastor and the others and make fun of them like he’s watching football.

At the end of the episode, we see him happily dancing with Valentino and Tounge kissing him, showing us even more that they’re in love in their own sick twisted evil way.

Angel on the other hand, is shown to be better.

He’s in a hotel for redemption and throughout the season we see him slowly kicking his old habits like self destruction, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, distancing himself, etc.

(With the help of Husky ofc huskerdust for life)

And by the end of the season we see Angel being a lot more genuine to the others in the hotel and I only imagine he gets better once they find out it’s possible to be redeemed.

Vox is not shown to want to be morally better in the slightest, if not worse.

He wants to one up Alastor, he wants to take over hell with the other Vees, and he will do it however he wants because he’s a cartoon supervillain.

I’m not going to touch on what I Think of Val and Vox as a ship in this but what I will say is that Vox is a cartoon supervillain, doing things that even though horrible in the universe are just seen as goofy to us viewers.

Val on the other hand is scarily realistic, a abuser who manipulates his victims and forces them to have sex for his own benefits. I think that’s the main thing that sets me off for them, even if they are evilly perfect for each other. (So I’m gonna steal vox from Val)

Vox is in a much different position with Val than Angel is, equal to if not above him while Angel is very below him. We see Angel stand up to him in episode 6, but I just know he was beaten the hell out of the next day and broken even further.

Vox would belittle him, so the only way I see the two even talking genuinely is if Angel starts it.

This isn’t like Angel and Husk, where they’re both washed up losers who are going through situations similar enough to bond, there’s an extreme power imbalance that wouldn’t make it as meaningful as Angel and husk’s talk.

There’s an amazing comic, I’ll add it below, but it’s actually what got me thinking about this topic.

If Vox comes out with his screen cracked after Angel was also hurt just to yell at the other becuase he’s ruining their image, then I see this potentially working.

They could share a sweet line like Angel showing concern for Vox’s cracked screen considering that’s his face and it must feel like having you’re skull cracked open. Angel has probably been driven to that level before.

However I have this one image in my head.

If Vox and Angel are both slightly talking and then they both say, “Val can be… rough.”

I think that perfectly shows how different the two’s situations are with him.

Vox would say it all horny with a tint of love to his voice, while Angel would say it actually despaired and quiet. They see Val’s actions differently because they are affected differently by it.

Vox isn’t scared of Val because he is on the same level as him, and I think that’s the main reason to why they wouldn’t kconnect.

Besides, both Vox and Angel are either too egotistical or have too many walls up to have a legit conversation about Val without knowing each other at all.

If anything Vox is only a contribute to why Val focuses on Angel so much, their relationship is toxic af and we see in ep 2 that Val likes to get a reaction out of Vox. It’s sick and twisted but I wouldn’t put it against him to do something like that.

So, in conclusion I don’t think Angel and Vox would be able to relate to each other because their situations and relationships with Val are so different, even if Val lets it out on Vox time to time his main target is Angel. Angel gets hurt almost every day and I’d say Vox only gets hurt every couple months on a really bad day.

We know a lot of the lore has changed since the pilot and the Voxtahram stories most of these claims come from arent even canon, so I probably just ranted about nothing.

Regardless Thank you for reading, and goodnight. If you have any genuine thoughts about this feel free to share in the comments and reblogs, I’m curious.

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lifesver · 6 months

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[ LAST VICTIM STANDING ! ]

#i wanted to redraw/clean up an old sketch :')#blood cw #tbh when i play i'm usually the last bitch out of the game #( ☆ ) ⸻ HYPERFIXATION GO BRR / kels art.

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churchydraws · 2 years

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Is lunar ticklish? Like is his stomach ticklish?

I don't see why he wouldn't be! I imagine that the Daycare Attendants' shell skin is made out of a material that's soft to touch and capable of feeling things so people and children feel more comfortable around them cuz it makes them seem more "human"

#literally about to head to bed so uhhh silly doodle #the sun and moon show lunar #sun and moon show lunar #celestial siblings show au #technically the au since Lunar has his own body in that #tbh I wasn't sure how I wanted to approach this one because intrusive thoughts go brr but oh well #I don't really think about the whole tickling community but some of the stuff I've seen is cute #I unfortunately started as an artist on deviantart at a young age so I saw some. Weird Things #and I think at that time people were going out of their way to shame people for that sort of thing cuz it was like that back then #I am guilty of also falling into that mindset at the time but I eventually got out of it #I'm trying to learn to embrace parts of myself that 13 year old me would have mocked me for #anyways I'm not in the tickling community but some of the stuff people do for it is cute and I'm glad they're having fun <3 #Churchy tag rambles #making that a tag now since I talk a lot in the tags #my art

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nintendont2502 · 1 year

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I should make some LE Jake art it seems so fun

#its so cool seeing the old fandom art from before the connection between le and jake was made clear #also evil jake makes brain go brr #me.txt

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nikoofdeath · 9 months

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Here's a sneak peak for yall(click on for old art lol)

Some redesigning of my old undertale au skeleswitch

A underswap meets errortale meets aspects of underverse wnd underfell with a gender swaped sans who may or may not have been a self insert

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berryblu-soda · 11 months

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this is super random but im working on some oc art rn so yea

Art tip! if you want the colors in a scene or character to be more cohesive, start by deciding the character/ scene´s main color, and set it as the background, this will subsecuently influence how you pick the rest of the colors

#shut up sheo #unsolicited art addvice go brr #i stopped doing this for a bit and yall my art suffered #just dug up some old refs and the color picking is so much nicer im deceased o(-(

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catboyfurina · 1 year

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i had this idea that has turned out SO well and im obsessed now

#beeep #THE IDEA IS. use tablet (normal. phonelike. has genshin #et cetewa) as a DRAWING tablet #because. my drawing tablet is very very very old and the pen needs to stay plugged in to work and even without any of those issues #i still find it easier to draw when im seeing my hand #ANYWAY #it worked and now i can access rebelle on my tablet hee hee hoo hoo #the only issue is that it loses power faster than the link to the computer charges it #so i have to be patient and let it charge -_-#but like i am so psyched for my cool idea that probably everyone else has had #and maybe im late to the party BUT IM AT THE PARTY NOW AND IT ROCKS #i think. i might actually *se m*ney to get the full app #because the trial expires in 3 days.... and its so good #rolls around #so i can do the sketches in the art program i normally use (the tablet one)#which is workable? but i like rebelle better #watercolors go brr

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mavisartstuff · 2 years

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Someone's outfit got updated-

#he still has his old one dw #Thought I'd give him something that reflects his personality more #Lovecore go brr #mavis art #oc stuff #oc art #oc tag #oc duke #ibispaint art

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pechadream · 1 year

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(Recreating SMTO ocs: 1/5)

Meet Catherine! (Formerly known as Krista) She’s a witch in training, and Matthew’s girlfriend! (later wife in SMTO2)

Guess who got motivation to continue recreating my SMTO ocs (like how I said I would back in july-) because Michaela Laws came back to tumblrrr-

No but genuinely, welcome back Michaela! Thank you for creating the game that helped kickstart my love for drawing <3

⚠ Do not repost my art or I will come after your kneecaps ⚠

(Nostalgic rambling under the cut, plus a before and after of the character design)

Honestly, when recreating this character I actually started getting a tiny bit emotional- Probably because this was one of T H E first genuinely serious ocs I’ve ever made (oh hey I also have michaela to thank for kickstarting my love of creating ocs as well- so, thank you pt. 2 <3), and even though she was kinda cliche when I first made her, I still loved her so so much-

As of right now, only her design is redone, I still want to revamp and improve her personality to be more in depth and I want to continue worldbuilding for her part in the universe (it’s more like an au at this point because it doesn’t go with the canon route and with how much I’ve done with my own worldbuilding, I’m sorry-) so maybe when all my ocs are done being redesigned and made to be more in depth I’ll make a longer post just for the relationship tabs and the worldbuilding I’ve done-

Anyways, enough of that rambling-

Here is the before and after of Catherine, from 2017 to 2022! (if there’s anyone who actually recognizes this from my wattpad 2017 era, I’m surprised- but hey, shoutout to you, ily-)

(please excuse the wonky pen pressure in my writing, I’m still trying to get used to my new tablet-)

As much as I get embarrassed sharing my old art, I do actually love looking back on my old art and seeing how much I’ve improved since then- Besides, back then I was creating with just as much love as I do now, it made me who I am today and I wouldn’t change that experience for anything in the world, so I’ve learned to look back with more fondness rather than embarrassment. (okay but not 100% without embarrassment, because why did I use that ‘fade in/out’ pen from firealpaca?? that pen was such a struggle to use-)

Besides, I would’ve never been able to guess that my art would improve so much. If I knew this was how my art was gonna end up back then, I would’ve freaked out- in a good way, of course-

Sorry, this post was really self-indulgent and not my usual thing to post- I just got super excited seeing that Michaela’s back and got just pure the rush of motivation to redo my old ocs-

SMTO will always have a special place in my heart no matter how many years pass. I’ll always be thankful for such a welcoming and nice community (even if I was, and still kinda am, too shy most of the time to interact-).

eugh okay that’s enough of being sappy for today- hopefully I’ll be able to finish this small project of recreating my old ocs. (if I do, will I be more sappy from nostalgia? or will I just be normal about showing off my ocs? who knows! hell if I know!)

#Seduce me the otome #SMTO #Seduce me #Seduce me oc #Seduce me the otome oc #Original character #Digital art #My art #OC: Catherine #wow it's been so long I forgot how to tag for this fandom-#I feel bad spamming the tags-#at this point- after eight years- smto really is starting to feel like an old friend #as in I don't check in 24/7 anymore- only every now and again from a few months to a few years-#but no matter how much time passes it just feels more comfortable and more like home away from home-#I might be staying longer than expected though this time not only because I'm remaking ocs #but I'm also replaying the game with two other friends :D #we've been recording it too so we might post it on yt someday ;)#but we've all been pretty busy so it'll take some time-#but haha teaser go brr-

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oneknightlight · 2 years

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"And when we're through, I'll say to you..."

"Do not look so dismayed."

Redraw of an old piece of fanart I did for Chapter 29 of The Harvester a couple years ago.

#The Harvester #digital art #my art #freckledots archives #angst #walt vault #ಥ_ಥ mmm pain #morganite lore go brr #this was lovely to put together #i love redrawing old stuff just to see where I’m at

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kryptid-kae · 2 years

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Oh yeah I should actually post art work here

#Look at them #i LOVE THEM SO MUCH #They were originally an old creepypasta oc #they looked so much different #So much improvment #Sobbing #Dnd character design #go brr #I got lazy with the tattoos im not even gonna lie #art #design #dnd #character creation #I would let them absolutely destroy me

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stresslitzia · 8 months

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Time for Art (affectionate threat)

#ramblings #I actually have new art that should be done today or tomorrow BUT #old art go brr.

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sobredunia · 28 days

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FINALLY. AFTER A WHOLE YEAR OF WORKING ON THIS. I HAVE MADE (almost) AN ENTIRE MINUTE OF THE PINK ANIMATION. MY COMPUTER IS DYING. SEND HELP

MASSIVE TAGLIST UNDER THE CUT BECAUSE I PUT SO MUCH EFFORT ON THIS I REFUSE TO LET IT GET ONLY LIKE 20 NOTES

@rotkad @sansxfuckyou @blackfright @beetroot-merchant @ashingtonkisihita @h3xt0r @bree-sae @helloidkwhatimdoing-0 @zecrisketch

aight that was the art taglist now the extras

@dr-mothman @akuma-tenshi @sunset-of-the-void @astro-inthestars @zephyrnine @wist-eri @scivious @choccymilllk @ask-nonny-anything @radioroxx @hiveswap @valid-name @specklx @kami-kun1003 @wackpedion @highoncatfood @georgeharrisonsboywife @chaoticangelsbeatupgod @sleepy-mushr00m @thatoneluckybee @floataaaa @therealcallmekd @noodle-persom @magodangretsus @j-axis @personalshredder

also if you've actually clicked under the readmore. surprise! here are the backgrounds / a gif. from newest to oldest

(had to divide this in two so i could put Yora in the middle and make it seem like a reflection)

(THE TREES TOOK ME SO FUCKING LONG DUDE THERE WERE LIKE 5 LAYERS OF THEM. for some reason this gif looks better in discord than it does on my computer's file player??)

(heho totally normal vending machine go brr. bit of a shame you only ever see the first half of the background F)

(house baybeyy. for some reason i vividly and explicitly remember watching a video shitting on a children's book written and drawn by ai as i was doing the windows around the door)

(fun fact the lil animation tidbits of yora showering were part of the background itself. in the animation this background is actually 4 pngs that rapidly change. same with the scrolling down shot actually. but for that i had to do some mindfuckery tricks to slowly move each png down at a steady pace. for some reason i just remembered that as i was doing that i was watching a video documentary about the development of this old japanese game called swamp or smth?? what)

(the room!! i did the blanket on a sepparate layer so it's not here. literally whenever i had to pause animating itself to go do a background to add in the shot my work on this project would grind to a halt bc i did NOT like doing backgrounds and kinda dreaded them)

also another fun fact. i began working on this animation before kenikari's demo was even out, on january. i wanted to post the full two days before i released the demo, to build up hype. oh, young me. foolish young me. you idiot. you baby dumbass. you bufoon

#nathan's notes #art #animation #tatsuya kitani #pink tatsuya kitani #PINK project #yora #lare #AMV #WIP

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ratwithhands · 2 months

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More old concept art, this one's been rolling at the back of my workshop for a bit.

You know how some humans just turn into pokemon? Not ghost types or dead pokemon, pokemon like Kadabra that are just the result of some freaky transformation? Yeah anyways grief go brr here's a design for Emmet.

I made this mostly concept on a whim for shits and giggles, but I did outline some basic stat specifics. For starters there this godawful possible learnset from google slides:

wonder if there's any noticeable patterns, anyways the ability is Anger Point just because of how absolutely fucking atrocious it is. It comes from how the whole rage/aggression factor of Emmet's transformation and makes him an absolute pain to deal with once the Interpol find him.

Stat spread was originally based on pseudo-legendaries' BST but I ended up cutting down some of the numbers cause they were feeling like a bit too much. The values are weighted heavier in offensive stats and lower in defensive.

HP: 70 ATK: 150 DEF: 70 SPA: 110 SPD: 70 SPE: 100

BST: 570

Anyways hope you guys like the art, I made this concept like a month ago off of dumb idea but ended up having fun sketching a researching stuff for it. See you later ^^

Bonus doodles:

(someone from the server I'm in asked for Emmet having a treat so he's having a biscuit/stuffed donut)

also here's the gesture drawings when I was still concepting cause I think they're funny

#body horror #tw body horror #submas #au #submas au #emmet #subway master emmet #emmet pokemon #kudari #fanart #sketch #drawing #digital art #slimy emaciated fucking creechure ♥ fun fact they take him into government custody (research lab) to see what the fuck is wrong with him #he's a little menace in custody‚ biggest way he sticks it to the authority is shattering windows so they need to be replaced constantly #like 6 replacements in a weekend kind of constantly #also since they took him for a pokemon‚ they originally gave him the standard berries + wet food mix they give to other pokemon #they stopped after he dragged a researcher to the cafeteria by the lanyard and scanned a lunch for himself #honestly the most interesting part of this concept is how he interacts with staff at the research facility #It's the SCP Submas special #meanwhile Ingo in Hisui seeing this shit in his nightmares #anyways see you later

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