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i-hate-spitelout-jorgenson · 2 years

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Nonononono I would love to hear you get into why you despise the hidden world i am always ready to add more reasons to my list

This is gonna be super messy and infodumpy but you asked and I deliver. fueled by rage, 40°c/100°f weather and no aircon.

First of all, The Hidden World was NOT exactl up for success. The first two films had two people workin together: Chris Sanders and Dean DeBlois. in the first film they were both directors, in the second one was a director and one was an executive producer. The first two are regarded generally as some of Dreamworks' best work, only really tailing films like Shrek and Shrek 2. The Hidden World isn't. I cant say I know a lot about what Sanders and DeBlois individually contributed to the films, but I can say this with confidence: DeBlois does not understand the dragons on a fundamental level. Time and time again the dragons are shown to be intelligent, capable understanding human speech and sarcasm, being fully sentient and sapient just as we are. For whatever reason, DeBlois never seemed to get this. Thats why The Hidden World treats the dragons like wild animals with instincts and a call for the wild when theyre shown to not be like that at all. At some point during the film, Astrid says, "What did you expect? You gave him his freedom, Hiccup." (paraphrased). Thats bullshit. And thats not even headcanon, its just bullshit. The whole idea of dragons being called away by their instincts to start a family and move on was already done in Gift Of The Nightfury, and it did it better! Literally the entire point of that short was that the dragons CHOSE to come back. They didn't want freedom, they wanted companionship - which clearly they understand as deeply as we do. Toothless is a special case, because its debateable that he never had those instincts to begin with. To that I say: Why didn't he have them to begin with? What was different about this time? That he SAW the lightfury? Gift Of The Nightfury was made to explore the idea of dragons laying eggs as a part of their instincts. If laying eggs is part of the instinct, why did Toothless and the Lightfury only do that like fifteen-twenty years later? And I dont have an answer for that. DeBlois did not direct Gift Of The Nightfury, but he worked on it. He watched the project grow and go through all of its developmental stages and came out of it learning apparently nothing. How To Train Your Dragon and How To Train Your Dragon 2 (as well as its respective TV shows) recognised the dragons as a very expressive, very complex part of the universe that have friends, familial ties, personalities, morals, emotions, understanding of human language. They dont get this treatment in The Hidden World. In The Hidden World Toothless is reduced to a romanticised, horny house dog.

DeBlois also doesn't seem to fully grasp the bond that the dragons and riders have. Toothless specifically has repeatedly risked his life for Hiccup. Off the top of my head, he saved him from that avalanche and risked being buried alive or dying of hypothermia; he (several times) swims far too deep to attempt to rescue Hiccup; he dives into the Red Death's fire to save hiccup; he deters, oh I don't know, a BEWILDERBEAST in order to protect hiccup. He has never truly in his life chose something over Hiccup. And you're telling me the Lightfury shows up, SHOOTS AT HICCUP, and Toothless still risks it all for some pussy? Like seriously? That bitch would have been GONE within seconds.

Now, I can't find a source for this, so take it with a grain of salt, but just like how the original villain of the second film was Valka, apparently the original pitch for the third was that they find a cave full of Nightfuries. First of all this wouldve been so much more interesting. I cant speak for Race To The Edge, but the ENTIRETY of Riders of Berk, Defenders of Berk, and even How To Train Your Dragon 2 lead up to the idea that maybe Toothless wasn't the last of his kind. I couldnt tell you how many times its alluded to in the show alone. And you're telling me, after, what, seven years, your answer is just, "That guy killed them all"? Which brings me onto Grimmel.

The selling point of Grimmel is that he's smart. He's the most intelligent villain they've fought yet. Personally I think thats fucking stupid. Thats not only blatantly untrue in regards to the actually intelligent antagonists they HAVE faced, hes also just not that smart. When he presents the ultimatum, among other things, Toothless could literally just shoot him. When he shows up in Hiccup's hut, Toothless could literally just shoot him. Even if hes fireproof (which i dont remember if he is) hes not momentum proof. A better point of interest on Grimmel would have been, "Hes the first villain weve really seen actively murder dragons." (Unincluding the red death). Which, ok, maybe. Hes still boring.

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OKOK SO. Lets start simple. Toothless is so chunky. They really didn't understand what makes Toothless intimidating. Hes scary because hes sleek and aerodynamic and not because hes a beefy macho wrestler. Hes a panther! Thats the intimidation!!! And i guess I cant put it off anymore so lets talk about the Kids Youtube monstrosity this film gave us i guess.

The lightfury is... a mess. in every way. The dragons in the series are very dramatic and stylised, sure, but in a very intentional way. A Monstrous Nightmare's teeth are in no way practical but they go with the big bad carnivore idea. A Deadly Nadder is not at all expressive compared to other dragons but neither are birds, which it resembles. Most boulder class dragons would in no way be able to fly, but it adds to the idea that they are heavily armoured and underestimated. In the case of the Nightfury, it makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint. It has large eyes because it lives in dark coastal caves. Its black because it is mostly nocturnal with hunting. It has echolocation BECAUSE of said dark coastal caves. However, when it comes to the lightfury, the design is... lacking. Smushed face not at all practical for fishing. Certain bird of prey and even dinosaurs (e.g spinosaurus) have distinctively long, thin mouths/beaks FOR FISHING. Lightfuries are not aquatic, and since they are presumably an evolution branch away from nightfuries, they probably cant spend too long in the water. Lightfuries have strangely smooth, round features. Its tail fins and wings being round make. next to zero sense. For the first film the creators took a pilots class to understand how flying works. I didnt. but i dont think that work, especially not for one of the fastest dragons. Its legs are weirdly shaped and It. Fucking. Sparkles. Its sparkly. Its 2019 fella I thought we learnt our lesson with Twilight. Shes so unneccessarily feminine its gross. And sure, The idea of variation between sex is shown but in very minor incidences. For example, The main differences between male and female Nadders are the curvature of the horn on the nose and which jaw is out more (overbite/underbite but idk which is which).

The Lightfury is also. Mean? Literally a softcore manic pixie dream girl? Its not even the cliche of like, she teaches him about the wild while he teaches her about stuff he learnt in "captivity" and theyre both endeared by the others ideas and home lives. She actively puts him down for everything and leads him on at the same time? its very strange. Also, Toothless' mating dances couldve worked on a Nightfury. We dont know. Theyre different species at the end of the day.

And the worst part about the Lightfury to me is that all of these issues are so easily solvable. For design, you have at least 2 options:

1. Make her a Nightfury.

I recognise they made her white so they were easy to tell apart. solution: Albino. done.

2. Make her a variation of Nightfury.

Plenty of people on this site have pointed out itd be plausible that there are, for example, Northern Nightfuries that live in harshly cold environments and are bulky and stong! Toothless seems like a wifeguy anyway let the man have a beefy wife

I've expressed this before, but I think that the ending is very lazy. Just tacking it on at the end that they have to leave bc they dont want more films. I have read the books before. I dont remember a lot about them, but I do remember that very little tracks. Like a couple of character names and thats basically it. Theyve NEVER attempted to replicate the books before, why start at the end of the final film? Its not even like there was very much motivation behind it. The dragon riders always win. I genuinely believe that the third film would have benefited from killing off Snotlout.

And yeah. I love him, hes my favourite character, this blog is centered around how much i hate his shitty dad. But his character went NO WHERE in the last film. Id even argue he got worse. Snotlout is a character where a lot of the appeal comes from the hope that he will be better. And he is! Compare his behaviour from The first few episodes of Riders Of Berk to the end of Defenders Of Berk. There is probably less than a year between them and it is night and day. He goes from being a school ground bully who neglects and actively deprives his dragon of sleep to someone who would maim, kill, die for him. You get to Race To The Edge and he is still the same cocky asshole, but he cares so deeply about his friends. He is inconsolable for days when Hookfang is thought to be leaving him. He cries of happiness at the wedding of his cousin and the girl he liked. He shows, more than probably anyone in the series, incredible growth. And then The Hidden World happens. To name a few things, he:

- Flirts relentlessly with his aunt

- Mocks his cousin's recently dead father ("Who died and made you chief?)

- Competes for power with Hiccup

And I think that killing him off would check the boxes of being closer tied with the books, Giving him a full redemption, and giving Hiccup a (albeit extreme) reason to send the dragons away. At that point Hiccup would have lost his mother (although she lived), his father, his leg, and his cousin (or best friend depending on interpretation) to dragons or to fighting FOR dragons. Thats got to be enough at some point.

Back on the subject of Hiccup, he was so... off. He's an absolute nerd when it comes to dragons (/pos)! He would never find a species of dragon and get upset that Toothless spent time with it, especially not A FURY???? He spends the whole film talking about Toothless and the Lightfury as if hes an over protective dad which again leads back to the ides of DeBlois not understanding the dragons fundamentally. The joke, to my understanding, is meant to be that he is treating his pet like his son that just started dating. But Toothless isnt his pet. Toothless is his friend. Thats not the relationship at all. And again, Hiccup wouldn'nt be??? upset???over that???

Ruffnut lost ALL of her nuance and interest and is now just "stupid." Tuff is... okay, i guess. Fishlegs is reduced to being motherly and feminine when hes otherwise CONSTANTLY shown being extremely intelligent and would also NEVER leave out Meatlug???? Ive already spoken about Snotlout, and Astrid is now just kind of. Hiccup's sidekick?? What happened she was literally so cool and stern and cutthroat and genuinely had chemistry with Hiccup. Now shes just there to give him advice. Dont get me wrong, I love the conversational parallels that have with the first movie, but they dont feel earned. they feel like its trying to leech off of nostalgia of the first movie. She also looks physically very different for some reason.

TL:DR, The Hidden World is a movie aimed at kids for a franchise that was always aimed at families. the themes are dull, characters are ooc, designs are ugly, and the problems are easy fixes

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aidenpriceless · 3 months

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Which Shrek character would excel the most in PFL, in your opinion?

Greetings. Apologies for forgetting this reply in the drafts, hopefully you are not inconvenienced by the delay. Am I correct in assuming that you would like me to draw some comparisons between the cast of the Shrek animated movie franchise and the roles of our agents? In that case, this question would require an in-depth analysis of their abilities for me to formulate a satisfying response.

There are plenty of characters within the source material, but let us stick with our main entries: Shrek, Donkey, Princess Fiona, and Puss in Boots.

Shrek

Superhuman Strength (diminishes when transformed into a human)

Durability (survived being burned alive)

Can travel on foot for miles without tiring

Hand-To-Hand Combat (Krav Maga, Irish Street Fighting)

Survival skills from living in the swamp

Improvising plans

Knowledge of fairytales and ogre lore

Powerful roar he can use to blow people backwards

Bonus abilities from the original book: swallowing lightning, heat vision, fire breathing

If we were to compare Shrek to any of our agent, we might see resemblances with Agent Washington and Agent Maine. His durability and being a jack of all trades would certainly make him an asset to our organization. He is likely to meeting our standards, in terms of performance. His temper, however, can cause many issues and further observation would be required to establish the proper measures we need to take. 8-/10

Princess Fiona

Master Martial Artist

Superhuman Strength (As an Ogre)

Durability

Expert Weapon Combatant (in the alternative world of Shrek Forever After), can hit targets while blindfolded

Team Leadership (in the alternative world of Shrek Forever After)

Princess Fiona is most similar to Agent Carolina, as we have seen the speed with which both are capable of landing hits. Her already enhanced strength is a great addition. She would benefit from using our camouflage armour enhancement and become virtually unstoppable. 9.5/10

Puss in Boots

Combat Proficiency (mostly as a swordsman) despite his small size

Sharp claws

Expert thief and hunter (thanks to speed and fluidity of movement which he also uses in dance challenges)

Distraction, using his cute nature

Guitar playing

Implied to be at least bilingual

Even more so than Princess Fiona, Puss In Boots is fast. Due to his ability to deceive, he would benefit from a holographic projection enhancement such as the one assigned to Agent Connecticut, who shares the usage of blades as her main weapon. In short, there is potential, but the determining factor is the presence and focus on the mission. Those values may not align with this character. I would not send him on a mission alone and not expect him to wander on his own. 7/10

Donkey

Empathy

Ability to keep secrets

Diplomacy, with which he has successfully changed others' stance regarding people or issues

As you may have noticed from exploring the franchise yourself, Donkey's special...Skillsets do not unfortunately include combat, which is the main requirement in hiring our agents. (3/10) If we are not strictly talking codenamed agents, there is plenty of members from freelancer personnel who could instruct him to a suitable profession. Namely, our field medic for simulation troopers, mr Frank DuFresne.

#shrek #rvb #agent connecticut #agent carolina #agent washington #agent maine #frank dufresne #project freelancer #pfl

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I decide to send something for the 800+followers special on the last. Day , my Favorite color is Purple and my favorite summer activity is making soda floats

1 .Shu most likely be bring the Karaoke machine for everyone to belt thier heart to music, making food or play games... Or just accidentally flustering Octavinelle student i

2 . Shu would probably wears these trunks

And a jacket based on Fates Shuten's yukata mainly the pattern on the Sleeve

https://www.tumblr.com/wanou-dorm/690148030891048960/twst-oc-shu-ibuki-wanous-housewarden?source=share - ref

Shus first one on the Left hand side .

--- Shu had been waiting all day to find a good chance to start karaoke. So, when he overheard Ortho announce Castor and Pollux were now hosting some, Shu took it upon himself to show them how it's done.

Shu watched at first, evaluating his competition as he set up his own karaoke machine and pulled up a bench. Ortho was quick to notify the duo and approached Shu with an offer "This would be perfect for a sing off! Would you like to try it?" Shu gave a simple nod and Ortho began to connect to Shu's Karaoke machine as well.

The music from Shus selected song slowly meshed and built up into Cassies and Pols song, Othro gave a spotlight to Shu as he began to announce "We've got a challenger~ DJ Shu!!!" Shu rolled his eyes at the silly nickname, much preferring to come up with his own DJ name. Shu took the lead, switching things up showing off his angelic voice. More and more people gathered, entraced by his voice as he went "Where have all the good men gone~" The piano increased in volume until Cassie and Pol joined in "HIT IT!" Ortho lit up like a firework and the crowd went crazy! ---

I tied this one into a previous req that had a karaoke machine too!!! >V< I COULDNT HELP MYSELF WITH THE SHREK REF AND I NEED A HERO nDAWGDYWAGDUJYGAW Im imagining ortho was probably remixing it with some cool beats in the bg and adding reverb or some shit (idk anything about DJing LMAOOO FORGIVE ME) I hope this was ok and that you could enjoy!!! Thank you for participating!! ^O^

#tuna be talkin #missputotyra #tunasseasidesq #twst fanevent #event request #twst #twisted wonderland #twst oc #twst fanart #shu ibuki

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bjsmall · 11 months

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01.05.23 We watched Puss In Boots: The Last Wish (2022). IMDb link: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3915174/ Puss In Boots: The Last Wish is a 2022 computer animated adventure film produced by DreamWork's Animation and distributed by Universal Pictures. It is the sequel to the 2011 film Puss In Boots. It is directed by Joel Crawford and co-directed by Januel Mercado. Based on the character from Shrek 2 (2004) and inspired by the fairytale, the films screenplay was written by Paul Fisher and Tommy Swerdlow, with a story by Swerdlow and Tom Wheeler. The voice cast of Puss In Boots: The Last Wish includes Antonio Banderas and Salma Hayek reprising their respective roles as Puss In Boots and Kitty Softpaws. In Puss In Boots: The Last Wish, Puss In Boots and Kitty Softpaws team up with Perrito (Harvey Guillén) to find the mystical wishing star to obtain the last wish in order to restore the first eight of his nine lives. Also hunting the star are Goldilocks and her three bears crime family (Florence Pugh, Olivia Colman, Ray Winstone and Samson Kayo) as well as Big Jack Horner (John Mulaney). At the same time Puss In Boots tries to avoid a mysterious hooded wolf (Wagner Moura). For the action packed plot, see wiki link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puss_in_Boots:_The_Last_Wish Work on the first draft began in 2012 and by 2014 the working title was Puss In Boots 2: Nine Lives and 40 Thieves. In August 2020, DreamWorks trademarked Puss In Boots: The Last Wish as the new title. The voice cast members were announced in March 2022. The director Joel Crawford wanted the film to retain the adult humour from previous films and also for the film to have a darker tone with the film focusing on Puss' mortality and fear of death. The story uses the concept of Puss being in the last of his nine lives in order to tell a story about how to enjoy life. He drew inspiration from fairytales by the Brothers Grimm, ''Cautionary tales that took you somewhere dark to make you appreciate the light.'' They also depicted Death as a wolf, just as wolves in Brothers Grimm stories were depicted as ''The personification of fear''. Other influences include Spaghetti Western films like 'The Good, The Bad and The Ugly'. As with DreamWork's previous film 'The Bad Guys (2022)' it was decided to make the Last Wish look more like storybook illustrations than previous Shrek movies. Using new technology provided by Lenovo, DreamWorks made the film look like a painted fairytale world quite different from that of Shrek and the original Puss In Boots. Puss In Boots Lenovo hardware links: https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/servers-storage/infrastructure-dreamworks/?orgRef=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F https://news.lenovo.com/pressroom/press-releases/preferred-workstation-innovation-partner-for-dreamworks-animation/ Puss In Boots: The Last Wish was animated with Premo and rendered using MoonRay, DreamWork's Production Renderer. MoonRay was first used in How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (2019) and continues to be used today in many of their recent productions. In February 2023, DreamWorks released MoonRay as free, open-source software under the Apache License 2.0. https://openmoonray.org/index Puss In Boots: The Last Wish is shown in the 2.39:1 (Cinema-scope) aspect ratio. The musical score was composed by Heitor Pereira, replacing Henry Jackman from the first Puss In Boots. Additionally three original songs were composed specially for the film: 1. La Vida es Una performed by Karol G and co-written by Karol G and Daniel Ovledo. 2. Fearless Hero performed by Antonio Banderas and co-written by Dan Navarro and Paul Fisher. 3. Por Que Te Vas performed by Gaby Moreno and co-written by Gaby Moreno and Heitor Pereira. Some of the music from Shrek 2 which had been composed by Harry Gregson-Williams was used in the film. The soundtrack was released in December 16th 2022 by Black Lot Music. Puss In Boots: The Last Wish premiered at the Lincoln Centre in New York City on December 13th 2022 and was theatrically released on December 21st 2022. The film debuted a new logo opening for DreamWorks Animation showcasing characters from The Bad Guys, How To Train Your Dragon, Kung Fu Panda, The Boss Baby, Trolls and Shrek with a remastered fanfare composed by Harry Gregson-Williams, mixed with several notes from the 2019 fanfare composed by John Powell.

View the new DreamWork’s logo opening in 4K UHD here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm6LCMdEHJw Puss In Boots: The Last Wish grossed $484.4 Million worldwide as of May 26 2023 and was a box office success. It is the 10th highest grossing animated film of 2022. Puss In Boots: The Last Wish was critically well received with an approval rating of 95% and an average rating of 7.6/10. Puss In Boots: The Last Wish was released digitally on January 6th 2023 for streaming and home media. Then a collectors edition was released on February 21st 2023, including a 4 minute CGI animated short film called Puss In Boots: The Trident. This was released on UHD Blu-Ray, Blu-Ray and DVD. As I've watched the first Puss In Boots and done a recent review on it I decided to checkout the sequel. Link to Puss In Boots (2011) review: https://www.tumblr.com/bjsmall/715865254211584000/100423-we-watched-dreamworks-puss-in-boots?source=share I think that the computer generated visuals are really impressive compared with the first Puss In Boots. I liked the way it is styled like picture book paintings and the movements of the characters appeared jerky like in a classic cartoon. The story is Definity darker perhaps appealing to more adult audiences while retaining much of the adult humour of its predecessors. My favourite character in 'The Last Wish' is Perrito, a chihuahua pretending to be a cat! Character wiki page: https://theadventuresofpussinboots.fandom.com/wiki/Perrito I like Perrito's friendly and caring nature towards Puss In Boots.

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themurderofcrowscollective · 8 months

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I may be shit at this but I gotta do it

I've been stuck listening to Emilie Autumn's music and I want to make a Victorian AU for Soapghost. Or something along those lines, like a fairytale AU or something like that but make it a bit realistic where Soap just knows he is never being saved and decides to save himself when he could've just played the role of the helpless sire in distress. Ok the fairytale AU seems to work well now. Soap is locked up in a tower by a cruel king (his father) because of a curse (is this referencing Shrek? yes, I don't care) that makes him transform into a monster (werewolf definitely) where the curse can be cured by true love's first kiss. He wants to desperately see the world and all it brings but there is a dragon keeping him stuck there. 18 years he's been kept in that tower, and at the ripe age of 19, he's had enough of playing the sire in distress he's been unfairly assigned. So one night as soon as he is turned into a werewolf, he breaks himself out of the tower and fights the dragon that's been keeping guard, killing it in the end and heading out on his own to explore the world. The cruel king finds out when he sends a guard to check up on his cursed son, and hires the best monster hunter out there; He has no name but he is known as The Ghost throughout the lands, working with a band of monster hunters who all have their own special abilities. Safe to say, they're all cursed themselves and turn into monstrous things. Ghost starts at the tower, following the bloody pawprints that begin to change into footprints and stop at a lake. It's clear that someone has camped out there and washed off the blood, but there's footprints in the mud left behind. Only a few miles away does the trail go cold but Ghost can sniff out the scent of a werewolf, only for him to call onto his comrades to help him track down the beast. It takes days to find the beast, the whole squad making up hypotheticals as they travel to many places. Could the beast have killed the prince? Could the prince be the beast? Did the beast kidnap the prince or did the two work together? All questions are answered one night, as the team find themselves hidden in the trees and bushes near a waterfall. There they see the Prince, sitting near a campfire and looking beaten up before the moon shines on him and activates his curse. Howling to the sky, Soap groans a bit as he stretches before hearing a twig snap behind him, causing him to lower his stance and growl as he searches for the source. Sniffing the air he knows he's being watched so before he could be subdued, Soap puts his campfire out and runs for it but the monster hunters are far more prepared; before he could make it far, he was captured in a net and without getting a chance to see his captors, he was shot with a tranquilizer. (more on the way cause of the fucking word limit)

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So this weekend, I was in the mood to watch both the live action and animated Super Mario Bros. movies.

I recently got the Blu-Ray for the 1993 movie in the mail, and to anyone who is skeptical about this Australian Blu-Ray release, it’s region free, despite the back stating it’s a Region B disc. Anyway, I’m not the first to say this, but I’m admittedly a fan of the live action movie, despite its lack of faithfulness or resemblance to the source material, as well as the inconsistent tone, as it didn’t feel like it had a target demographic. My favorite aspect of the movie is definitely the set pieces, especially Dinohattan. A lot of effort was made to make this alternate dimension feel alive and lived in. Fun fact, this same set for Dinohattan was previously used as the Foot Clan hideout in the 1990 TMNT movie. It was especially great to finally see this movie in crisp HD quality and not the letterboxed laserdisc transferred DVD. Still not as bad as Dirty Duck’s DVD where they literally took the movie from a VHS transfer, I’m not kidding.

As for the 2023 movie, I’m sorry to anyone that likes it, but I’m not a fan at all. It’s pretty clear that this movie prioritizes fan service and references over a decent story. As much as I love the Instrumental score, the amount of 80’s licensed songs that have already been overused to death in movies, even some that have outright replaced the original score (particularly A-ha’s Take on Me), is pretty frustrating for me and just sucks me out of the movie. I’m also mixed on the animation itself. The backgrounds look nice, but some characters don’t really look so good (mainly Donkey Kong), and I found it to be annoyingly over-animated at points and the excessive use of slow-motion got old fast. Also the casting was kind of caca for me, with the exceptions being Charlie Day as Luigi and Jack Black as Bowser (minus that annoying Peaches song). I really don’t see what’s worth all the attacking and downplaying towards people who dislike the movie (yes that actually happened), because all it really has to offer are references, and once you’ve seen enough of those, then the movie really doesn’t do anything special or interesting. It really does feel like another Illumination movie made for money. Then again, Nintendo doesn’t take much risks with their products in recent years either, so I shouldn’t be surprised they chose Illumination to make the movie. In the end it made billions of dollars so get ready for that sequel.

And to toss in a bonus, I discovered and saw a 20th anniversary screening of Shrek 2! The only screening open that was was subtitled, but I decided to watch it anyway because… well, it’s Shrek 2. I still love this movie today just as much as I did back then, I don’t think I ever saw this one in theaters when it came out, so being able to actually do that was a phenomenal experience for me. Go and watch it on the big screen if you haven’t already!

#movies #super mario bros movie #shrek 2

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Arts & Culture / November 2016

Deadpan Walking

Norm Macdonald's surprising second act

BY GRANT MUNROEUpdated 14:46, Sep. 14, 2021 | Published 9:14, Oct. 17, 2016 This article was published over a year ago. Some information may no longer be current.

MIDWAY THROUGH a ninety-minute set at the Chrysler Theatre in Windsor last April, Norm Macdonald reached for a list of topics sitting on a stool next to the mic. He held it at a distance from his face, adjusting a pair of spectacles he’d pulled from a pocket in his faded dad jeans. The audience laughed as he mapped out the last half of his routine. Several topics were dismissed—“No. No. Good Lord, no”—before he stopped and winced. “There’s no way I’m doing that.”

“Do it!” a woman shouted.

“Okay, okay, but I feel an obligation to warn the more sensitive souls with us tonight—” He took off his glasses and assumed the stony-ironic mask of seriousness that, a lifetime ago, became one of his trademarks on Saturday Night Live. “What I am about to broach is one of the most difficult things any of us could face. This is an unpleasant topic.”

He slowly folded the scrap of paper, placed it tenderly upon the stool, and grinned boyishly. “Suicide!”

The room exploded.

After arguing against the idea that suicide is cowardly—“What could be less cowardly than murdering yourself?”—he moved on to the costs and benefits of auto-erotic asphyxiation.

“Benefit: an orgasm that’s one-point-five times more pleasurable than a normal orgasm. Cost: a chance your son will discover you blue-faced, tongue out, clutching your cock.”

Macdonald then segued into the topic of death more generally. “Lots of people are scared,” he said. “They’re scared about what’s after this hellish existence . . . . And I’m like them. I don’t know nothing about none of that. Nobody knows what happens after you die. But I do know what happens right after you die. You’re found.”

Waiting for the laughter to subside, Macdonald scratched the back of his neck. “And that’s the worst part, there. That’s the worst part. Being found.”

MORE THAN twenty years ago, Macdonald—like his SNL peers Mike Myers, Adam Sandler, and Sarah Silverman—seemed poised to secure a place in the comedy pantheon. Following a steady rise through the Canadian stand-up circuit, a network debut appearance on David Letterman, and gigs for Dennis Miller and Roseanne Barr, he’d been hired as an SNL writer and cast member in 1993. A year later, he began anchoring the “fake news”—his term for the show’s long-running “Weekend Update” segment. Much of Macdonald’s best humour was less topical, more absurdist—and dark. “The Food and Drug Administration announced today that while one ounce of Special K with four ounces of milk is a good dietary source of protein, one ounce of Special K with five ounces of milk is deadly poison” was one of his characteristically deadpan “news” items.

Rather than chasing easy applause from the studio audience, Macdonald dedicated himself to performing humour he found original—an approach that eventually drew the ire of NBC brass, who were aggressively fighting to boost the show’s then-dismal ratings. They fired Macdonald in 1997 and cancelled a deal with MGM studios for a series of commercials promoting Macdonald’s feature comedy film, Dirty Work. While the movie now enjoys cult status, its box-office numbers were bleak. Macdonald’s 1999 debut sitcom on ABC, The Norm Show, also fared poorly. His career took a nosedive.

But it never hit ground. Macdonald levelled off his glide path and has spent the time since creating a popular, smart comic brand under the mainstream radar. He’s never played the lead in a Shrek, Billy Madison, or Wreck-It Ralph—but he’s done well. And he’s done it on his terms, often independent of the studio system.

If the Windsor show was any indication, many of Macdonald’s current fans were still in elementary school when he was reading fake news on SNL. Most know him entirely from YouTube: stand-up sets, comedy specials, late-night talk-show appearances, and the Norm Macdonald Live podcasts, which feature long-form interviews with the likes of Sandler and Margaret Cho.

After the show, I watched Macdonald plow through a plate of pot roast and potatoes at a late-night diner. With half a dozen young fans in attendance, he told filthy jokes, talked hockey, and bashed Bret Easton Ellis for calling Alice Munro “overrated.” An amateur comic sharing our table asked Macdonald how his routine had developed over the course of his career. “I guess now I always try to kick the prevailing idea of what comedy is, or the attitude behind it,” he said, forking a green bean. “Maybe that had to do with hitting the fifty mark.”

A few months later, I met Macdonald at his two-bedroom condo in a planned community near the Venice neighbourhood of Los Angeles. The place was spare and clean, like an upscale vacation timeshare. Macdonald is mostly itinerant, travelling from club to theatre to club. With his twenty-three-year-old son, Dylan, away at the University of Iowa’s writing program, Macdonald—long divorced and still unattached—had the condo to himself.

After offering me an orange, he sank into a leather-upholstered recliner and kicked off his sneakers. Comfortably dressed in a dark-blue T-shirt and sweatpants, Macdonald had planned to spend a happy afternoon live-Tweeting the third round of the 98th PGA Championship. Bad weather at the Baltusrol Golf Club dashed that dream. So we chatted about his early years, his stand-up, and his book instead.

From his very first sets as a twenty-something amateur comedian in Ottawa, Macdonald stood out thanks to his flat tone—most noticeable at the climax of a punchline. He would often end his payoff sentences with deliberate abruptness, as with this “Update” throwback: “In music news, number one on the college charts this summer was Better than Ezra. And at number two: Ezra.” That’s an iffy joke on paper. But on air, Macdonald’s delivery—and his steady, confident stare—made it work.

His parents, Percy and Ferne, worked as civilian teachers at CFB Valcartier, a military installation just north of Quebec City. Macdonald lived there until he was twelve. He told me he was plagued in his youth by an almost “crippling shyness,” which got worse when he was identified as gifted and skipped two grades. Now both the quietest and smallest boy in his class, Macdonald turned inward, writing lengthy stories conceived as fragments of a larger collection he’d titled I Hate Everybody in My Class. His older brother, Neil, who would eventually become senior correspondent for CBC’s The National, remembered the works as having been akin to “Icelandic sagas.”

Six years ago, when Macdonald successfully pitched his newly released memoir, Based on a True Story, he thought writing it would be easy. But while working on a draft, Macdonald watched a tape of one of his early sets and spiralled into self-doubt: “It was the absolute worst fucking shit you’ve ever seen.” Reading over the little he’d already written, Macdonald decided his first book was destined to be as terrible as his first routine. Only after unburdening himself to a therapist was he able to see the project through.

Based on a True Story rejects the jokey, formulaic, humblebraggy style—and biographical accuracy—of recent comedy memoirs (think Tina Fey’s bestselling Bossypants). Three stories are woven throughout it: a mostly fictionalized history of Norm’s life from birth to his firing from SNL; an outlandish road-trip caper that sees Norm (who in the past struggled with a real-life gambling problem) scheming to make a fortune by gambling on casino credit; and a meta-fictional narrative centred on Norm’s ghostwriter, who exposes the ostensible author as a fraud.

Some lines take their rhythm straight from the comedy club. (“Death is a funny thing. Not funny haha, like a Woody Allen movie, but funny strange, like a Woody Allen marriage.”) The book makes no mention of Dylan or his mother, Macdonald’s former wife. When I asked why, Macdonald told me he would have had to portray his ex in a comic fashion. “I couldn’t figure how to do that without the possibility of offending her.” Their relationship, according to the comedian, is distant but cordial.

His publisher suggested Macdonald include more stories involving Sandler, whom the comedian counts as a friend. None came to mind. “What stories?” he asked rhetorically. “[Sandler] is an incredibly nice guy who’s been generous to me over the span of my entire career. There’s no dirt or anything, holy Lord. And the backstage stuff wasn’t funny. It was just guys talking basketball, trying to think up stuff.”

Indeed, Based on a True Story is completely devoid of celebrity gossip—not because Macdonald doesn’t have any, but because he doesn’t find it funny. He hates “upwardly mobile” schmoozing and happily avoids Hollywood parties: mega-celebrities make him uneasy. “The trouble with those people is that they’re all enormously wealthy,” he told me. He pointed a banana he was eating at the cat toys on the carpet. “I can’t invite them here. And if I go to their place, it’s like being in a museum. Money separates people like crazy.”

“It’s sad, you know, because I used to hang out with Sandler all the time. But now it feels weird. Whenever I go to his place, I’m always worried that he’s worried that I want something from him.” He shrugged. “Even if it’s only my imagination, it makes things uncomfortable.”

Finances notwithstanding, Macdonald’s reputation is first-rate among comedy insiders—as reflected in a glowing profile published recently in the Washington Post. Two days after it ran, the comedian told me, Netflix offered him his own series—no pitch necessary.

WHAT MAKES good comedy resonate with an audience, Macdonald has come to believe, is a comedian’s underlying commitment to truth. “It’s not just the truth in what you say, but in the persona the audience sees performing. You have to learn who you are.”

The real Macdonald can be dark—unsettlingly so. He had to fight with his editor to keep some of his book’s most gruesome passages. One involves a nine-year-old boy with a terminal illness who receives a hospital visit from Norm thanks to a children’s wish-granting organization. “Do you swear to God you’ll make my wish come true, Norm?” the child asks. After initially demurring, the narrator finds himself overwhelmed by “a curious tenderness” and says, “I swear to God”:

The boy looked at me directly and I could see the tears fill his eyes. He spoke softly, his voice quavering and unsteady. “I want to kill a baby seal.”

What follows is an adventure in which Norm takes the boy to Labrador, where the lad crushes the skull of a baby harp seal using a traditional hakapik. After dancing in the gore, the boy makes a miraculous recovery. Two sentences later, back in the city, he is struck and killed by a municipal bus.

“I thought a long time about cutting that part,” Macdonald said. It remains a section he’s unhappy with. Not because of its content, but because of the quality of the writing. “It was rushed,” he admitted. But it had to be kept in order to properly set up the following chapter, “Tiny White Coffin,” in which Norm fumbles through a twenty-minute eulogy.

In one of the most memorable segments of his 2011 Comedy Central special, Macdonald riffed on the psychosexual obsessions of spree murderers, whose victims, he told the audience, always seem to be buried in “shallow graves.” If he were a spree murderer, he said, he would set himself apart by digging “very, very, very deep graves.”

An earlier version of this bit, which Macdonald said ruined countless hour-long sets, was so grim and off-putting that his friends told him to abandon it. But he couldn’t. He knew there was something funny embedded in the horrific premise. The challenge was to discover a crack in the wall that the audience put up. Getting it right, he told me, took a year of field testing in comedy clubs.

The breakthrough, Macdonald said, came when he realized that he had to make it about his own self-directed (and entirely invented) suspicions. “I couldn’t do it in [the] third [person]. It bombed. Too creepy. But when I said, ‘Now, I can’t read the future. I don’t know that I’d never want to kill a girl. Who knows? I’m not Nostradamus. Yet even in today’s enlightened society, there remains a stigma against being a pychosexual sadist.’ When I said that, they knew I was joking, and they’d allow me to do it.”

Though he’s indifferent to politics, Macdonald regrets the growing hypersensitivity among some audiences—mostly on college campuses, which he does not play. “It’s sad,” he says. “Historically, those were the greatest clubs. George Carlin built his career on that circuit.”

“One of the usual questions that people ask comics is, ‘What’s out of bounds?’” He cites fellow comedian Bill Maher, who’s known to do jokes on topics such as 9/11 and AIDS. “[But] the true answer is that if you want to take on a serious topic, fine, but you have to work hard to make it good. There are ways to do it. Bringing up a shocking subject just to get a shocked laugh is retarded.”

That said, Macdonald has tweaked parts of his routine to reflect rapidly shifting societal attitudes to subjects such as transgender people. Caitlyn Jenner once figured in his stand-up—but no more. Macdonald still does all the same jokes, but he uses himself as the target: “When I was young, I said, ‘Dad, I’m a lady.’ He said, ‘But you have a cock.’ I said, ‘Ah, you got me.’ That’s how hateful we were back then. Don’t blame us. We were just hateful people.”

Before his book came out, Macdonald expressed many of the concerns common to debut authors. Was it being pitched to critics and editors properly? Would they understand the story? Would they get the humour? After making a note to call his publicists and suggest a new promotional angle he’d thought of, the comedian apologized.

“I feel weird talking about the book so much,” he said. “I’m just happy it’s over. It’s the worst thing I ever went through, in a way—but fulfilling.”

“The thing that would make me most sad, though,” he added after a moment’s reflection, “is if someone wrote, ‘This comedian thinks he’s a real writer. Well, nice try.’”

This appeared in the November 2016 issue.

Grant Munroe

Grant Munroe has written for the Globe and Mail and Literary Hub.

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"say, i'm thinking 'bout her every second, every hour do my singing in the shower, picking petals off the flowers like do she love me, do she love me not? i ain't a player, i just crush a lot."

(—) ★ spotted!! SEBASTIAN 'SEBBY' DAVIS on the cover of this week’s most recent tabloid! many say that the 27 year old looks like MASON GOODING, but i don’t really see it. while the COMEDIAN/ACTOR is known for being QUICK WITTED my inside sources say that they have a tendency to be IMPULSIVE i swear, every time i think of them, i hear the song the way by ariana grande feat mac miller { he/him / cismale }

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𝓼𝓽𝓪𝓽𝓲𝓼𝓽𝓲𝓬𝓼

name: sebastian 'sebby' davis

age: twenty seven

nicknames: sebby

date of birth: may 12th, 1996

astrological sign: taurus

place of birth: brooklyn, new york

occupation:comedian/actor

label: the sweetheart

positive traits: quick witted, polite, loving, hilarious

negative traits: impulsive, fleety, moody, indecisive

characters/celebrities he’s like: pete davidson, joey tribiani from friends, nick miller from new girl, donkey from shrek, matt rife,

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sebastian was born in brooklyn, new york to an average, working class family - his mom being a teacher at the local public high school and his dad being in the new york city fire department.

when he was just a few years old, his dad died in a tragic fire and because of that, it was just him and his mom against the world.

they moved in with his grandparents and although he lacked a father figure, he never lacked love and attention.

his mother taught him to be strong, taught him to always see the glass half full instead of half empty and truly was his rock throughout his entire life.

because of this, sebastian made it his mission to be a good man - to always sit with the kid who was eating lunch by themselves, to stand up for those getting picked on and bullied and to make sure his peers were respectful, especially towards girls.

but, that didn't mean he didn't have his days - days where the sadness of loosing his father so young and never getting to know him really got to him, days where life became overwhelming when people asked him what he wanted to do with his life or what he wanted to be when he got older and he had no idea, so he turned to humor as a defense mechanism.

in his high school talent show, he did his very first stand up act and won first place and his career only grew from there.

skipping out on college, he began playing comedy clubs all over new york city - some nights to a packed crowd, other nights to just one person sitting at the bar, and he truly loved being able to bring a smile to people's faces. but as much as he loved it, it didn't pay the bills.

still living in his grandparent's basement, and not having had good enough grades to get into a good college, he knew that being funny was the one thing he was always good at, as well as being charming and using those two skills, he snuck his way into snl studios one day, snuck past security and walked right into the writers room, asking them for five minutes of their time before they called security on him.

and in those five minutes, sebby wowed them that they decided to take a chance on the kid from brooklyn and that next saturday, he premiered on his first episode of snl at just eighteen years old.

for the past nine years, he's remained a staple in the cast, as well as doing his own stand up tours and netflix specials but has especially become more known for his dating life.

he's always been a sucker for love and the fairytale and would never consider himself a player, he's just someone who unfortunately finds himself falling in love all the time and has racked up a list of notorious hollywood exes, including an ex fiancée.

however, not a single one of them would ever have anything bad to say about him. because unlike most guys in hollywood, his mother raised him right.

his star is only rising as of lately, having had spent the past couple of years starring as joey on the sitcom 'friends.'

#hillzintro #sebastian

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Welcome to our weekly round-up! We do these every week to provide plot drops, highlight starters posted that week, and share other information about the setting. Anyone is welcome to use these bullet points in starters, plots, anons etc. Also let us know if you want us to include one of your setting-related plots in here for next week by sending us a bullet point!

What’s new in town?:

Strange crystals have overtaken the town, and touching them creates a “link” to the doomed people of Bleak Point. Some may find they have a stranger influencing their actions, while others might find their emotions amplified. The least fortunate may transform into creatures from the mines and terrorize the town. Come join the chaos of our latest POTW!

A mysterious egg has been found in the State Park by one of the Park Rangers. This egg has gained some press due to the egg shell seemingly consisting of solid gold. While no one knows what's inside of the egg yet, one of the members of the wildlife team has set up an incubation station. What hatches is anyone's guess.

Worm Row can never seem to get a break. A couple of blocks have buildings and cars with shattered windows after an alarming sound rang through the area. Officials are citing the moose that hang around the abnormality as the source of the sound.

It's back-to-school season and no matter what you're looking for to start your year with confidence, Hidebehind Cosmetics has you covered. The shop is running a special through the end of the month where all professional makeovers with product recommendations are 30% off. You may just leave with a few new rumors too!

Starters:

Seems like Ray is in a pickle and could use some advice to get his 'friend' to stop pretending to be him on blind dates

Hospital jello is an experience and Wynne needs to know how to recreate it at home

If you have good recommendations for food in town send them Psyche's way

Regan needs a good summer winter coat and needs to know where to find one

If you don't get the swamp or the misunderstood Shrek, Juno can explain

That was not a great vacation and Teddy is here to hear about how anyone else is doing

Local unawarewolf Gael is looking for some soothing beverages because tea does not seem to be cutting it

Felix is looking for the 411 on Worm Row and definitely isn't worried people may have seen a loose jaguar haha

Biologists of Wicked's Rest, Samir is very concerned about the rubber appearing and sounding chickens in the yard

Stop touching the entomology displays at the museum or Parker will have to ban you from the museum and definitely not bludgeon you or anything like that

What was that sound and why are all of Arden's windows now broken? The wormmates stay having some sorta luck

#wrw #wicked's rest weekly

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CHARACTER INFORMATION:

```**CHARACTER NAME:** "Rapunzel". Born Princess Helene Alastair but No Body Knows That

**CHARACTER FACECLAIM:** Samantha Logan

**CHARACTER AGE/DOB (if from enchanted forest, general age okay):** 21...ish. Born March 19.

**CHARACTER PRONOUNS/GENDER IDENTITY/SEXUALITY ETC:** she/her; cis female; uhhhh she's been locked in a tower for 21 years and has seen two people most of her life and one was "Mother" and the other one was Flynn sooooooo... probably Bi let's be real all my characters are bi

**CHARACTER FANDOM:** Uhhhh Rapunzel fairy tale with influences from Tangled and the OG source material

**OC OR CANON:** Canon...ish???

**WHICH LAND ARE THEY FROM (examples: earth, enchanted forest, wonderland, monsterland [frankenstein, dracula, vamps etc], neverland):** Enchanted Forest

**CHARACTER BIOGRAPHY:**```

TW "PARENTAL" EMOTIONAL ABUSE, CHILD ABUSE, KIDNAPPING

- She has Magic Hair when she SINGS

- Her hair doesn't lose magic when it gets cut but it has to "Charge" in the sunlight like a solar panel but better. solar power take note.

- She was not born blonde but it fucking looks wild as shit when she sings and it starts to glow.

- Okay so once upon a time in a kingdom far far away (next to shrek's kingdom). The Queen grew very sick while pregnant with Rapunzel, and desperate to do anything to save his love, the King disguised himself as a peasant, went on a Journey against time to a deep forrest where an ancient old witch lived. He asked her for help. She offered to trade a golden flower for something he couldn't give — power. The witch wanted the King to become a puppet, and use his militia to do a Naughty thing and slaughter a kingdom she feels did her wrong centuries ago, the dramatique cunt.

- The old woman had been harvesting this special flower over and over again to keep her youth, biding her time for revenge....

- and well, The king basically told her to go fuck herself, and later that night, he hopped the fence like a degenerate, snatched the entire flower, and peaced out. He didn't harvest it correctly, leaving the witch without her juice to keep her young.

- The witch caught the king just as he made it over her fence, but didn't stop him...

- With the flower's help, the queen recovered, and gave birth to a wonderful baby girl with a mop of hair....

- The queen and the king rejoiced, so happy. the kingdom threw a festival with lanterns to celebrate. The daughter was named Helene Alastair, her first name meaning "shining light".

- and then the Witch snuck into the castle and stole the baby.

- As a bitch move, the Witch, now named Mother Gothel, renamed the baby Rapunzel, after some cabbage that had been growing next to the stupid magic flower that the King trampled over.

- She kept her secluded in a tall tower in the middle of the enchanted forest, and soon learned of her hair's magical properties. The incantation could be sung, and Mother Gothel, who was a little crazy after living for way too long, hypothesized that the hair must NEVER be cut.

- It was a bad life. Sure, Morher Gothel took care of the kid, coming and going with a rope until rapunzel could USE HER HAIR to lift her up the tower.

- Rapunzel was allowed to draw, and gained some artistic abilities.

- However, make no mistake, she was emotionally abused, gaslit, and taught to fear the outside world. Mother kept here there because the world was DANGEROUS and people wanted to abuse her and use her for her hair and blah blah blah

- Well, Rapunzel, while smart, was naive and raised under Mother Gothel's thumb, so how was she supposed to know???

- Mother Gothel isn't a fucking moron and told Rapunzel her birthday was in the dead of winter, so when she saw the Lanterns outside, she always associated it with the First day of Spring.

- And when she became 21... well, she finally grew a backbone. Somewhat. She wanted out, She wanted to see the floating lights. Her fucking hair was 70 feet long and with magic hair that doesn't get split ends it fucking SUCKED ASS -

- Mother Gothel left after and explosive fight, promising she would regret her words when she returned...

- and then a fucking thief climbed into her tower to run away from a couple of goons because he stole something and swindled his partners. bitch.

- Rapunzel, who had been taught to fear men, conked him on the head with a pan.

- Successfully incapacitating him, Rapunzel and the weirdo thief had a very odd conversation... And also she tied him up with her hair. Gross.

- Rapunzel has just managed to get him to promise to take her to see the floating lights, when Mother Gothel returns, demanding to be let up. Panic and chaos ensues as Rapunzel tries desperately to untangle herself from Flynn, literally, but she takes far too long.

- Mother Gothel uses the secret staircase she sealed with magic and storms up that way and when i say Shit hits the Fan

- Mother Gothel hurts Rapunzel, who, mind you, has absolutely no fighting skills. The only reason she got one over on Flynn is because she snuck up on him and got him with the cast iron. She's pulling rapunzel but her hair trying to finish the job of untangling them while screaming like a fucking Banshee. She threatens to keep her in chains for the rest of her life, to sell her to all those terrible people she told her about growing up - the nonexistent people who wanted to use her for her hair — and then Flynn gets the bright fucking idea to get out of there and slices through the hair to get the fuck OUT.

- Poor Flynn is lucky he doesn't die, bc Mother Gothel is furious, still believing her hair's magic not working if you cut it... and she's about to poke out his eyes.

- Listen, she thinks Flynn is a fucking weirdo, but she's not about to let some Bellatrix Lestrange-Lite bitch dk something so awful. In an act of defiance, she slices off the rest of it, screaming that now no one can have what they want.

- Mother Gothel rounds on her "daughter" again, and lunges. Rapunzel jerks out of the way, tripping over her fucking thick seventy foot ponytail. The action makes Gothel trip too, and soon they're struggling on the ground.... Rapunzel never realized how much resentment she had for her mother, and now she seemed so frail... literally, she was aging by the minute, black hair going grey, wrinkles setting in...

- Rapunzel beat the ever living fuck out of Gothel, using Gothel's deteriorating strength against her, before they careened into the window ledge... and down Mother Gothel fell, turning to dust just before she hit the ground.

- Numb to what she had done, she just stared for a long minute.... before turning to look at the man in her tower with tears in her eyes.

- And then, the curse struck, taking Rapunzel away.

- In Storybrooke, she was one of those people that were going ti get a true crime podcast given to her. Locked up until some random burglar broke in and all hell broke loose. Rapunzel killed her mother, everyone knew that...

- It's just no one knew what to actually believe. The "burglar" wasn't there, having disappeared (or been left behind??) and wasn't there to testify. People found this girl with no real name, no real family, and a dead old woman she claimed to be her mother.

- She spent most of her 28 years in limbo, between processing of whether or not they were going to put her in an institution, put her on trial for murder, or acquit her for manslaughter in self defense. it was horrible, anxiety inducing, and she still didn't know anything about the world.

- Plus, whenever she went to the grocery store, people would give you that look that's like _oh my god she's the one that murdered a person!_

- And the curse broke... and everything came flooding back. And Rapunzel doesn't understand what she's supposed to do about any of this. Her "life" here was fake, and her life back at "home" was a tower. Who was she? Where did Mother Gothel take her from? And how is she supposed to find out any of those questions when she's stuck in Storybrooke?

OOC INFORMATION:

MUN NAME/ALIAS: Love

MUN AGE: 26

MUN PRONOUNS: She/Her/Hers

#rapunzel app #accepted

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[ The first Alliance captures Adora, Catra, Lonnie, Kyle and Rogelio after they attack a village. ]

Micah: In the morning, you are going to Bright Moon to face justice.

Angella: Think of your mothers. They’re going to be very disappointed.

[ The five give her a confused look. ]

Angella: None of you have mothers. I should have known. Hordak takes orphans.

#incorrect quotes #source: Shrek special #Adora #Catra #lonnie #Kyle #rogelio #Micah #angella #she ra #she ra 2018 #spop

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