Im so sick of this shit....
(This post contains unrelated drama/discourse, if you dont want to see anything discourse related I suggest that you move onto the next post entirely. Thanks!)
Why are you doing this? Really?
Because these two people hurt me. They continuously hurt OTHER people within the fandom. They hurt my friends with no sympathy whatsoever.
And abandoned me even after I begged them to stop the drama and stop constantly trying to cancel my blog even after I apologized, and I was even MORE of a minor back then.
And as a extra shot in the foot.
You didnt even @ me? Am I just not a kind person to you? But somehow the people who have attacked people just for liking the show and people who have done shit that is almost just as bad as Vivziepop are considered "kind" to you?
And then tell me “but it was qued” as an excuse when you ALREADY know that Devil and WTH have attacked people in the past with no sympathy whatsoever?
I worked my ass off to give you what you have today, I tried so hard to give you support so you could be able to thrive as a creator. And this is how you repay me? Some petty “but you did ____!” after I spoke to you about how you were calling people who are still attacking other
Even Devil, someone who attacked one of my friends recently which is why I had to block them??? I have done so much for you! I have tried so hard to be kind to you and the others.
And this is how you treat me when im not around? Like an afterthought?
If you were really my friend, you wouldn't be pretending as if these people were somehow the kindest here, you would have actually held them accountable for thier behavior instead of constantly praising it.
Because they attacked me multiple times, one was even a case of racism just because I was mixed race and my old twitter used to have bad political takes back when i was younger.
You LIED to me. You said that you knew that they hurt me in dms.
You said that you understood that they werent the kindest people.
Hell, im not exactly perfect myself. But really? You're going to treat me like this after everything we've went through?
You know what. Im disgusted, you know why? Because yall always keep publicly shitting on Vivziepop for her actions, and then show, someway, you COMPLETLEY ignore every time your community decides to either attack or berate others yourselves.
And no one said anything when that happened, they threw everything onto me and starting leaking personal content and deleted posts in a failed attempt to get my blog shunned by the community.
When Vivziepop does shit like this... you all act like its the worst sin in the community. But when ever any of YOU end up doing shit like this.... you pretend as if its "just a little mistake" even if the person being harassed in question was a goddamn minor you act like nothing happened even in spite of the person in question having no sympathy for how they treated them. And then you try to even praise thier behavior?
Even if some of them are clearly STILL being harmful to this day?
STILL reflecting the same harmful behavior, the same “anti vs stan” logic that has plagued this community for almost two years now, and counting!
And yes, as you mentioned that I didnt address the merch issue with Xoan the best that I could. But if you looked for ONE more second you would see that I wasn't even upset with Xoan at all! In fact, I actually like the merch myself and was just concerned about how overpriced it was.
I was never even mad with Xoan at all, I was expressing my thoughts on the merch (not xoans’s! As a WHOLE) as a whole since... I have every goddamn right to do so!
The only guy who upset me was the one who tried to derail the post entirely, and it wasn't even Xoan’s fault that this happened!
They were attempting to flex thier funds in the middle of a pandemic where many people are already financially suffering as it is, trying to take it as a personal attack that I was concerned with Spindlehorse’s overcharging of certain merch, when it was NEVER a problem about the fans in the first place!
Just one more minute of research you would have known this by now.
I was never upset with them for buying what they wanted.
And they were a completely different person! Without them, the conversation with Xoan would have went as normal and no discourse would have even happened at all. And if I could, I would dm them right now telling them how sorry I was for starting discourse when I should have ignored the derailed altogether.
It was NEVER about Xoan, the anger was NEVER towards Xoan. It was about Spindlehorse, its about the producer not the consumer!
The problems with the producer is never about the consumer.
If that toxic fan blog didnt try to derail things with drama, me and Xoan would have went our separate ways, and no discourse would have happened.
Hell, I even REWROTE the entire thing so I could make what I was saying to Xoan more clear that I didnt have a problem with people enjoying thier merch.
I did this as an apology, it was NEVER an issue about @xoangel-dust and I am so sorry if they ever felt that way to them. But how the Hell does that somehow excuse your own actions that you do on a daily basis?
One of your blogs even REVOLVES around attacking other fans entirely!
Hell, your group attacked my friend Xoan literally only three months ago.
What? Are you just going to pretend as if that never happened so you could find a way to throw everything onto me AGAIN to keep yourselves from being held accountable for your behavior?
Again, I know that im not perfect, I know that I make mistakes and might not be the best at addressing things myself. But at least I actually goddamn try to get better, at least ive actually goddamn tried. and even when I fail... I try harder!
You know what happened after I attacked starpetig back when I still supported What The Hazbin’s unnecessary dirt digging of Vivziepop?
A few months later, I went straight into thier dms and VERBALLY APOLOGIZED.
I actually TOLD them that I was sorry. Yall wouldn't even stop going after me even after I told you to stop multiple times back in October with not one of you apologizing whatsoever.
Ya’ll dont tell me ANYTHING. No apology, no extra clarification, nothing!
You just verbally berate me for every little flaw and forget that I even existed.
Hell, they even responded because they were glad that I went the extra mile to try to not repeat the same “anti” behavior that I did to them back then.
What are you people doing patting yourselves on the back for the same exact toxicity Vivziepop has done in the past?
Pretending as if NOTHING happened when there’s still full on harassment towards our fandom from “antis” and so called “criticals” who constantly spread the same toxicity about Viv and her fans over and over again. Constantly accusing Viv of putting bad representation on “purpose” and using it as a scapegoat to be harmful towards her fans.
Hell, I know for a fact that if Vivziepop was one of your mutuals you would have probably treated her the same way you do Devil and WTH.
It’s not real accountability, its double standards. And im sick of it!
And you know what Vivziepop did to Kat? What the Hazbin did the EXACT shit to me when I was younger, its the reason why I decided to no longer be an anti in the first place after I realized how truly awful this kind of behavior is.
And though unfortunately I lost the screenshots due to having to move laptops.
You all sent drama of me online, leaked deleted content of me even after I apologized for it, leaked a personal dm of me having melted down that had nothing to do with said argument, announced that I was an awful person and that you would no longer support my content to everyone even after I apologized multiple times (and the apology only happened THREE minutes after yall berated my blog, but of course... you pretended that it didnt exist in order to keep your façade of me.) tried to pretend as if my apologizes never existed, kept talking behind my back on discord according to Azula, kept talking behind my back on Tumblr and even creating callout posts with private things to get everyone to stop supporting my content, verbally berated me on Devil’s Tumblr even after I kept trying to tell you all to leave me alone.
And it got so bad, that I ended up having an anxiety attack in front of my therapist. But even after that happened... did any of you care?
No! You just KEPT doing it till I had no choice but to completely block your accounts altogether to keep the harm from continuing any further.
You all berated my blog, talked about me behind my back, wrote callout posts with private info/drama to try to get the community to shun me, attacked multiple of my friends, berated me again in a unrelated space even after I was trying to get away from you people, and then attacked Xoan for being critical but also not wanting to attack Viv or other fans over it.
After I wrote something to Xoan and didnt address it the best way I at least tried to rewrite it in a different post so I could sound more clear so the discourse could pass and we could all move on, ya’ll attacked them DIRECTLY.
Yes, my responses towards xoangel-dust could have been better and it ended up turning into discourse with another blog when I should have just ignored the guy who was derailing altogether or at least taking the discourse somewhere else which would have been much more reasonable of me to do.
But that doesnt make how you all treated Xoan any better?
What? You all forgot about the time where YOU attacked Xoan yourselves? The very thing that caused me to have blocked Devil’s Advocutie in the first place? Forgot to mention that now did you....
It’s like these awful things ONLY piss you off when it’s those that you dislike.
But whenever its someone that you defend... you ignore it! And try to give yourselves a pat on the back for your own shitty behavior. And dont even try to go “but you did this! but you did this once!” because this isnt about me. Dont try to make this about someone else because you dont want to held accountable for your behavior. This is about your own actions.
The world doesnt revolve around you!
If im pissed off about you and YOUR group (excluding FloralKittyGambler because she at least tries to get better and actually has improved tons since I first met her, even becoming one of the kindest critical blog that ive met in a long time) have done to me and my friends, trying to derail with “but you did ___!” isnt going to make any of this better.
It’s the same cycle over and over again.
People within our community spread the same toxic behavior over and over again and they pat each other on the back over it and pretend as if the awful things never happened. But when Vivziepop does it, you all blow a fuse and throw EVERYTHING onto her! Its always “me! me! me!” and no actual accountability whatsoever. Im sick of it! This fandom war should have died years ago. But it keeps going, the fandom keeps berating each other to no end and the drama just keeps getting bigger and bigger by the day.
And it needs to stop! We need to stop this shit before it gets any worse.
We’re just throwing drama at each other like chimpanzees and nothing is getting any better. It’s depressing, and even somewhat hypocritical.
Im not trying to say for any of you to attack each other further, but please stop pretending as if the critical community are somehow angels compared to the mainline fandom, we’re not! And we have the capabilities to make mistakes too!
The fandom has shit, the critical community has shit. We ALL have shit.
I have shit that im still working on to this day!
Some of us had even turned to “anti hazbin” practices and became even worse than the fandom itself. It’s hypocrisy!
If you want to hold Vivziepop accountable her behavior, then we should do it for our own community as well. Not to send callout posts or to try to spread more drama but to actually hold OURSELVES accountable.
It should be about giving feedback towards Hazbin, not to berate Vivziepop’s life and to attack her fans just for liking the show or not constantly having criticism on thier blogs. We should just get back to Hazbin Hotel instead of all this unrelated psuedo-drama and actually get better for our community.
Patting ourselves on the back for shitty behavior solves NOTHING.
You want to be critical and skeptical? Do it!
Stop praising these people for thier behavior just because they're “critical” to you. You NEVER held them accountable and then you wonder why they keep getting worse. Pretending as if what Devil’s Advocutie, What the Hazbin or any of these toxic “critical/anti” blogs have done in the past never happened and trying to pretend as if they're “the kindest and sweetest little sunshines” for being blogs that literally REVOLVE around berating the fandom and the creator.
Stop blaming other people for your own actions and treating them like a villain for holding you accountable. These arent “the kindest people” they're clearly continuing thier toxic “anti hazbin” behavior to this day!
It would be one thing if it were like FloralKittyGambler, StupidUnicorn, Hazbian, my blog, or a few others where there’s the occasional not-so-good posts or reblogs. But these three are anti blogs! They REVOLVE around this sort of behavior. You are calling anti blogs “the kindest blogs you've ever met” meanwhile they continue to revolve thier lives around hating on Vivziepop and her community constantly. You are doing the exact shit that you berated “stans” for in the first place by praising CLEARLY toxic and or “anti” blogs for thier behavior.
Sia, if you truly believed that what Vivziepop is doing is wrong, why are you calling two blogs that have done the exact things she’s done with absolutely no sympathy “the kindest” blogs.
One of them is a anti blog who’s life revolves around shitting on viv and the fandom while the other one is someone who attacked a minor with another fully grown adult with no sympathy whatsoever.
And dont go all “but you attack people if you disagree with you!” because if you think that biphobia, berating, harassment, and being a valentino stan if “criticism” then your definition of “criticism” is clearly getting fucked at this point.
As you know what happened when Lucy disagreed with me? They politely dmed me and gave me several pieces of criticism and feedback towards how I kept writing my reblogs too long and needed to stop causing discourse in reblogs.
And after that... ive been trying to shorten my length since!
And yes, there are days such as last week where I might have setbacks and may repeat this by accident, same for several other fans. But we’re at least TRYING to get better. Floral, unlike most of your group, she’s actually trying to get better with these things and ive seen her improve through time. It’s the reason why we’re still friends, she actually treats me with some goddamn basic respect and doesnt try to berate me whenever I give her feedback.
Because she actually CARES about me.
You know what happened when those biphobes attacked me for being sapphic?
Floral was the only one there to help! Sia, you haven't been there for me for almost three months straight and you outright ghosted me and started constantly surrounding yourself with antis. I had to come crawling back to you on that toxic discord server just to get you to goddamn talk to me again!
You find THAT to be fair? Because it’s not! A friend sticks with each other side by side and accepts them for thier flaws, they dont just leave them because “oh woe is me! there’s tumblr drama now!” they understand that the other is flawed and tries to talk it out with them. Everytime I tried to talk to any of you for YOUR actions, you would start a petty argument, blame me for everything that had happened, and block me in an instant for having questioned you.
By far, Floral, Critical hazbin, Enchanted, Hazbian, are the only blogs that ive been mutuals with that didnt do shit like this to me.
Hell, Enchantedchocolatebars will talk to ME without me even having to do it first and actually liked me ....for me! They’ve been one of the sweetest mutuals that I have ever met. They are so willing to actually care for others that they directly dm me to brighten up my day.
These people have been more of a friend to me than you three have ever had. Because they actually care! Ya’ll dont and only wanted me for stupid hazbin drama till you no longer needed me anymore so you decide to either break our freindships over petty garbage or ghosted me altogether. Same shit happened on Tapatalk (except worse since they ended up leaking my personal info (including my su*cide attempt and personal life) to other websites.) and the same shit happened here as well!
Ya’ll just attacked my damn blog after multiple times of me telling you to stop, constantly pat the backs of those who went after me, and then go and block me after I question to why you're patting someone on the back for thier awful behavior after you constantly refused to even speak to me for months!
And then you go talking shit to me when you started to pat the backs of anti hazbin blogs and throw the whole “but you did ___!” as a scapegoat for YOUR actions? After you just patted multiple toxic blogs on the back and ignored my existence altogether. And dont go all “ Yall are just patting each other on the pack for attacking innocent fans for anything Hazbin related and then wondering why the fandom gets so irked when you approach them.
“Anti” logic solves nothing! Its not “cute” “kind” or “funny” to be a downright asshole towards other people over a goddamn cartoon!
Go do something different with your lives, support fan artists if you have to just stop constantly thinking as if “critical” or “hate” somehow equals a personality.
I am a fan of Hazbin Hotel! Not a “critical”, not a “anti”, not a “stan”!
NONE of us need these toxic anti hazbin blogs dictating what we should and should not do with our blogs. There is no “unproblematic” blog and to expect such will only lead you towards disappointment.
Im not “unproblematic” and neither are you! So stop throwing shit onto me just because you decided to do something harmful, you knew that Devil attacked Xoan themselves and you did not care whatsoever, you know that What The Hazbin and Hazzie tried to get my blog cancelled entirely. You just didnt care!
You all think that you’re sweet little angels, and meanwhile your blogs revolve around hazbin hotel and hazbin fan hate, it REVOLVES around hating Viv and her creations, it REVOLVES around ship bullying and fan shaming.
I wouldnt be saying this if your blogs didnt outright revolve around such harmful behavior in the first place. Meanwhile the fandom itself has advanced so much more ever since more people stopped supporting the “anti hazbin” mindset.
ZatyrLucy accepts criticism, more criticial blogs have appeared in the tags and started advocating for fan solidarity, more people have gotten BETTER.
Meanwhile this side of the community keeps being stuck in the same loop of mediocrity and hypocrisy on a constant basis. We keep biting each other’s tails off when someone does something wrong and or pretending as if said wrong thing doesnt exist at all unless its Vivziepop related. It’s hypocrisy!
Being hateful towards something/someone is not a personality! Stop it.
Stop with the “anti” culture!
Stop with the cringe culture!
Stop with the callout posts! Stop with the drama!
STOP WITH THE HYPOCRISY.
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