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To all who are theorizing about CX-2 being a clone of Crosshair or something:
No disrespect to you or your headcanons, you can believe whatever you want, But to me??? Making a clone of a clone makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
It’s been established over and over that the kaminoans don’t create without a purpose. What would be the point of creating another Crosshair?? Just to mess with the batch? They have enough defective clones to worry about, and I don’t think personally traumatizing the Bad Batch is high on the Empire’s to-do list.
And when would they have even done this? Clones take time to mature, even at their accelerated rate. Cross wasn’t on Tantiss for that long, so there’s no way a clone of him could be an adult already.
And here come y’all in the comments “they could’ve done it on kamino! This could’ve been years in the making!” The Empire didn’t even EXIST that long ago and no one could’ve known the Batch would defect that early. Which brings us around again to why would they do that.
The theory just doesn’t hold up.
No offense to any of y’all btw, I know it’s all just fun trying to guess who CX-2 is. These are just my thoughts on the theory.
Anyway. It’s Tech. :P
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tech-tbb · 1 month
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Since there are a lot of theories coming up at the moment, I want to join in now. Especially since a few theories make me question whether these people have ever ACTUALLY watched Clone Wars, Rebels, and Bad Batch.
It's about the new CX-2 clone from the latest episodes, season 3 episodes 6 & 7.
Many assumed it was Cody. Others say it's a clone of Crosshair itself. Others and most believe it's Tech, that I have to go along with.
And not just because he's my favorite, but morally in general.
First point:
Many say it's Cody because of the vibro knife and the art of using it. But if it had been Cody, he would have already had one and wouldn't have had to steal it first.
First of all, he didn't have the vibro knife with him from the start, he stole it from the clone he killed in the security room.
Second, if this CX clone was Cody, why is this never mentioned further elsewhere? It's never mentioned in Rebels, nor is it mentioned further. And Cody betrayed the Empire by running away. At best they would give him death, but not a second life as one of their own. And Cody, like Hunter, is a master with the vibro knife. Crosshair would never have been able to fight him off if it had been Cody. But he was able to keep up with him and even get the knife out of the CX clone's hand. With Cody, Crosshair would have died.
Third. The Bad Batch are more highly trained soldiers than Cody himself probably was, after all, the Bad Batch are special commandos. Accordingly, every single Bad Batch member could handle a vibro knife.
Second Point:
The theory of many that this CX-2 is a Crosshair clone. The technology and excellent knowledge to clone is in Nala Se's head. However, it was only with Omega's presence that Hemlock was able to get her to research and work for him. Accordingly, Hemlock only had access to the DNA and the knowledge of cloning and the knowledge of the Clone Force 99's DNA for a few months, if at all. He only had Crosshair himself in his hand for a few months, including his DNA. As we all know, growing too quickly is not good for clones, the best and sad example is Clone 99, who bravely gave his life in the fight for Kamino. He had grown too old too quickly and he was unfortunately disabled and unable to be a soldier. Therefore, the only thing the Kaminoans could do was double accelerated aging. Clones would have to grow for at least 10 years in order to be able to be a soldier without such complications. But Hemlock has only had DNA and cloning science in his hands for a few months. A Crosshair clone would therefore not be possible, as this clone would then be disfigured, similar to Clone 99. And yes, CX-2's shooting abilities are identical to those of Crosshair. But let’s get to point three first.
Point Three:
Here now to my last point. Tech. I most likely think it will be Tech.
Here is the explanation at the end of my second point. Shooter skills. CX-2 has equally excellent marksmanship capabilities as Crosshair. But I know the final episode of season two is emotional. But the shot Tech took to fall was excellent. So the next best shooter to Crosshair is? Exactly, it would be Tech. The connection that Tech had shot down on the wagon was out of reach and very far from Tech's position and he still had the entire wagon in the path of view of this connection. Nevertheless, he only fired a single shot, which went through the glass of the wagon and hit the connection, severing it. *A shot Crosshair would have praised him for.* So it would be highly likely that this CX-2 could also be Tech with this rifle and the accuracy. But not only that. His movements and his voice and his accent are also added. The helmet's modulator allows us to hear a voice in the undertone that a Reg doesn't have. It sounds a lot like Tech's voice, even if it's heavily filtered. (But clearly noticeable with headphones and increased volume and honest concentration). In particular, his grunts of pain, gasping for air, and moving the stones are identical to the grunts Tech made when he broke his femur and so on. His movements are also identical. Kicking Crosshair with his outstretched leg was identical to the kick Tech gave a clanker on Kaller. His posture when walking is also a little slouched, like Tech. *Like a shrimp, I've often read many posts once.* His intelligence to destroy all ships so that there are no means of escape. His tendency to simply disobey Wolffe's orders. *(When have we ever followed orders).* Infiltration, alone, unnoticed, fast, agile. And he knew exactly where to shoot to destroy the desk that Rex his clone friend was working on to connect the communications to get a rendezvous with Echo.
Ah, his equipment is also different than the other CX clones we've met so far. He always carries the backpack. He doesn't have a datapad, but he now has something similar on his right upper arm. He also has a visor that folds down, and the movements he makes to do so are identical to those that Tech always did with his visor. And the pocket around the thigh and the one pocket on the right lower leg. This is very unusual for the CX clones.
And he recognized Omega immediately. He had only been activated relatively recently and not much time had passed since then. He had no way of knowing for sure that this girl was Omega he was looking at. He also hadn't checked any holos of targets during screen time. Which means this CX-2 clone knew Omega and knew exactly that this girl was her. Many also claim it can't be Tech since he said clones instead of Regs when talking to Scorch (maybe Scorch). Maybe it's the change in himself. But if not, Tech would know full well to avoid using Reg. It is the Empire and the word Reg is not used by any of the Empire's clones, especially the CX clones. And then to his accent. Tech's British accent is very noticeable among all the clones. But even among his own Bad Batch brothers, his accent is very audible. And this CX-2 clone has a strong accent and its modulator in the helmet is even stronger than the other CX clones. If it were a reg, then a very strong modulator wouldn't make sense. All in all, this CX clone is very talented. But we all learned from Season 2 that Tech is the same way. He is a genius in all possible aspects. And he is a fully trained commando soldier, like his brothers. And if he is, he definitely received further training to become a CX clone.
Extra point: the memory wipe. Many also claim that it couldn't possibly be Tech because Crosshair said he himself was too defective for that. But let's take another look at the first episode of season 1. Tech said they're more deviant than defective. And another thing is the condition. Tech definitely didn't come out of this crash unscathed if he really is this CX-2. Accordingly, his mind and especially his body were perhaps very weakened and vulnerable to attack and take over. Crosshair was never healthy under Hemlock's care, but he wasn't very close to death's door. Tech, on the other hand, might have been.
And almost forgot to mention. His height has been changed from 1.93m to 1.82m, but why change his height when he is dead?!
Another extra point. It is the story of Clone Force 99, i.e. Crosshair, Tech, Hunter, Wrecker, Echo and Omega. It's not Cody's story and, in fact, it's also not just Rex's. Rex appears often at the moment, but he is not one of the protagonists. The protagonists are the members of Clone Force 99, and their story is written, not others. That's exactly why I believe that the CX-2 clone has something to do with the Clone Force 99, i.e. Tech, the only one missing from the group, the family.
So yes, it could most likely be Tech, alive.
But it's not canon, not yet. I have my own theory as you all have your own. I hope it was still informative and that you can get a little more out of it.
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chaotic-kitty · 1 month
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I was thinking about Phee's first line just now- "Better late than dead, I always say."
And, man, I really hope that was foreshadowing. Like, maybe Techs just running a little late. He was separated from his squad, after all. And and, they've traveled a lot in that time.....maybe he's just running a bit behind. Especially without his goggles........
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zaptrapp · 1 month
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no bcause what are we going to do with all those CX-2 Clone assassin theories on "Tech got Winter Soldiered" or "That's Crosshair's clone" or even "Cody got brain washed" when we'll be revealed in 2 or so episodes it's this little shit:
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smolbean-17 · 2 months
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Hunter is probably going to die this season.
You know I’ve theorized this if you’ve been following me since Season 1. As the season keeps rolling out, the more and more I really do think this will happen.
We know that the ending will be bittersweet, and we know that the emotions behind the ending has a lot to do with fatherhood in particular (according to DBB)
They are putting a huge emphasis on Crosshair and Omega’s relationship. Particularly how he could fill a paternal role for her. Omega mirroring Crosshair is a huge sign to not only us as the audience, but to Hunter as well, that Crosshair can (and will) become a father figure to her. They didn’t have to show us that Hunter noticed Omega mimicking Crosshair. But they did. They’re masterfully crafting that something is going on in Hunter’s head. He’s thinking about Crosshair and Omega’s relationship, and what that could mean.
Crosshair still has a long way to go in regards to his guilt. They could easily have him sacrifice himself at the end to ultimately quell all of his guilt, but I believe that they’re going the route of subverting everyone’s expectations. Crosshair could sacrifice himself for full redemption (like they do with most Star Wars characters) and he probably would given the chance. But story wise, he doesn’t really need to.
If they were planning to go that route, he wouldn’t have been reintroduced to and accepted by the group so early on in the season.
They are actively showing Crosshair paving the way to his redemption. He’s putting in the work. He is protective, helpful, and actively putting himself in danger for the benefit of his family. He’s redeeming himself already. Him dying isn’t necessary to resolve his story. In fact, I think it would diminish the power behind his change. People can make bad decisions. They can hurt others. They can change. And they can live to see happier days. That is hope. And that is always the overarching theme of Star Wars.
Hunter, on the other hand, has been incredibly uncertain and indecisive throughout the entire show. Where Crosshair knows and acts on his decisions, whether good or bad, Hunter has been unsure of himself and his role in everything. His path is way less cut and dry. It almost feels like, in many ways, he has lost his leadership. And he feels it. He regrets his decisions. He probably blames himself for everything bad that has happened. He clearly doesn’t fully trust himself to keep his family safe.
How can his story be resolved, short of him simply finally deciding to take a stand and fight for the other clones?
By giving up his life for his family, for a cause he never wanted to be a part of, as a leader should. So they can go on and live the life he so desperately wants for them.
I don’t think at this point in the story Hunter would allow anyone else to sacrifice themselves. He would stop it from happening. He’s learned from his mistakes.
My theory is that we will see more and more instances of Hunter recognizing Omega’s growing relationships with others, especially Crosshair. And when the time finally comes, he’ll be able to let go of needing to be her primary protector. He’ll see the growth in her, and in his brothers, and finally trust that they’ll be okay. Whether he sacrifices himself or gets mortally injured in a fight/accident, he will be at peace.
I don’t know if his death will be ambiguous or unseen, like him dying in an explosion or something like that, or if it will be more obvious.
I could see him having a Fives-esque death. Where he can say goodbye to his family, and finally pass off the responsibility he held so close to his heart to Crosshair and his brothers.
And if Tech really is dead, he won’t have to be alone anymore.
They’d put Hunter’s helmet above his grave, the last real symbol of the Bad Batch, and a last goodbye to the Clone Wars (since his helmet resembles the regs’ helmets the most)
They’d leave Tech’s goggles on his grave (if Tech stays dead) along with Lula. Omega would leave a bouquet of flowers from Pabu. What a powerful image that would be.
Omega could then go on to lead her own little batch. She’s made the friends and connections to do so. Crosshair and the others wouldn’t be too far behind.
It would be a touching resolution to Hunter’s and Crosshair’s and Omega’s arcs.
Other clues I think they’re dropping that support this theory:
-Omega’s new hair design. It’s perfect for her to wear Hunter’s bandana.
-Batcher joining the squad. She fills the tracking role.
-Crosshair’s increased screen time with Omega.
-Hunter’s increased desire to do whatever it takes to keep Omega safe, and the hints that he becomes reckless upon doing so.
-The Marauder exploding. Something about losing the home and the head of the home making for great storytelling.
-The idea of passing the torch of leadership to the next generation. From Clone Wars (TBB) to the new SW content (Omega)
-The fact that Jen Corbett said Hunter is her favorite character, and I’ve never known a female writer who doesn’t whump the hell out of their favorites the most (fr one of the most compelling arguments lol)
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thrawns-babygirl · 2 months
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Okay, hear me out I have a wild theory-
So Crosshair's hand tremors.
What if, and this is a big what if, what if he did something to himself to cause it?
(Spoilers for 3x06 and 3x07)
We now know that Hemlock was trying to force him into becoming a shadow clone, so what if, in a moment of retaliation and pure hopelessness, Crosshair did something to himself that would mean he wasn't able to do the one thing he was good at anymore.
After being a prisoner for so long, knowing in his heart that there was no hope for escape, he found agency in taking away the one thing he knew the Empire would use him for against his will.
Reclaiming that tiny bit of autonomy the empire could never take away from him as a final fuck you to being controlled and ordered around.
But now he's out. He needs his aim, he needs his arm and he's trying his best despite it all.
I love Crosshair.
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celestial-specter · 2 months
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Me 🤝🏻 being obsessed with Star Wars animals
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totallyunidentified · 22 days
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Not exactly spoiler-y but just in case…
Also I’m so sorry
What if we get a mirror of Techs death with Crosshair.
He initiates Plan 99 to get Omega out of there.
It was his fault that she’s there this time.
They are back on Tantiss and they are so close
Omega is with them. Maybe someone is injured.
There’s no way they all make it out. Someone has to stay and stop the troopers from overwhelming them
Crosshair would never forgive himself if he let anyone else get hurt by the empire again.
Omega tries to get him to stop. Who would she be if she didn’t. She tells him “I lost Tech and I’m not losing you too”
But Crosshair just looks at Hunter. Who understands. He gets it. They would both do anything to get Omega and the rest of their brothers out of there.
Crosshair kneels to be at Omegas level.
“Hey. Put this with his goggles won’t you?”
And hands her his scope. He won’t need it. Not in close contact.
Crosshair nods at Hunter who picks Omega up in his arms. She kicks and yells at him to put her down. Hunter and Crosshair make eye contact one last time before Hunter runs to the hangar with a crying Omega in his arms
Crosshair looks at Wrecker and sighs
“Fine this one time”
And Wrecker grins through his tears giving his younger brother one last hug.
Wrecker runs to join Hunter and Omega.
Crosshair watches them leave. He chuckles and lifts his blasters.
“Plan 99 eh Vod?”
He says to no one in particular but he swears he can hear a faint “the probability of success…” in the distance as he slams his hand into the door controls ready for one last fight.
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amultitideofdrops · 2 months
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So, I have a theory.
We know the assassin is likely Tech.
And we know Crosshair is hiding something, probably to do with that program.
I think he already knows Tech has been conditioned.
For one thing, Tech would have been getting the conditioning the same time as Crosshair. And given the Batch's loyalty to each other, they absolutely would have used them to hurt each other.
Crosshair also has a full fear reaction to the other assasin, more than just 'oh we're getting ambushed any minute now'. He's has personal experience with the conditioning and the end result of the conditioning. He doesn't care for regs, but seeing a family member go through it would scar him.
He also seems eager to deal with the assassin one on one, maybe so he can get rid of him without the others knowing. He'd rather they remember Tech making the honourable sacrifice than what the empire made him.
He also hasn't had any scenes showing his reaction to Tech's death , especially as he died coming to save him! It could be bad writing, but it could be because he knows he isn't fully dead.
Now, it would be OOC for Crosshair to just abandon his brother like that. But I think the show has made a point that Crosshair is absolutely out of hope. He's going along with everyone but doesn’t seem to believe things will work out. He was passive in his own rescue. They've also made a point a few times that he didnt want to rescue the other clones. Because it was dangerous. Or because he didnt think they could be saved. I think he has already tried to 'save' Tech and has reason to believe they cannot get him back at all at this point.
Of course, this was before he had the rest of the batch and literal sunshine Omega. So now Crosshair could be swayed to the idea of at least trying. He just has to find a way to tell them without getting punched in the face
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kaminorain · 9 months
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the way that tech isn’t wearing his goggles because they are what’s taking the photo 😭
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anthrotulip · 2 months
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May the Force be with us all.
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gospelofme · 12 days
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I’m going to say it. The last episode of The Bad Batch series, The Cavalry Has Arrived, will be Rex arriving with his crew and fucking shit up.
Bonus points for Ahsoka being there as well and Wolffe just saying “fuck this shit” and turning on the Empire with his men following suit.
Extra bonus points: all the clones in the facility who are not prisoners turn on the Empire as well. One big giant fucking clone rebellion.
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oh my god I just had an epiphany
The clone assassin says to Crosshair while they fight "You could have been one of us. You chose the wrong side."
And with the framing of the conversation they had with the first clone assassin it's mostly probably about the fact that Crosshair could have joined the secret ops group but then chose the side of the proto-rebellion, but WHAT IF:
what if the assassin is truly brainwashed Tech and in that moment, some part of Tech that is still buried beneath, managed to break through and Tech just leeches out all the negative emotions and the hurt and the betrayal Crosshair caused them in season 1, and what he says is this:
"You could have been one of us (the batch). You chose the wrong side (the empire's side)"
Of course, I don't think our Tech would then go on to drown Crosshair even if he is still secretly pissed about Crosshair trying to airfry them all like a christmas turkey, but considering the assassins are reprogrammed, brainwashed!Tech wouldn't be above fratricide.
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chaotic-kitty · 1 day
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I've seen a lot of HCs of Tech and Crosshair as twins. I also saw one of Tech and Wrecker being the twins.
But I raise you one! Wrecker and Crosshair are the twins.👀
My evidence:
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midnightdjarin · 6 days
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*me grabbing crosshair by his shoulders and yelling in his face* YOU BETTER NOT D!3 IN THE FINAL EPISODE DO YOU UNDERSTAND
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celestial-specter · 2 months
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Clone Armor and Poster Symbolism in The Bad Batch Season Three
(Brace yourself, loooooong discussion under the cut).
So I’ve long been fixated on the symbolism of the clone’s appearance in Star Wars - it first began in The Clone Wars, with each clone discovering their own individuality and decorating both their bodies and their armor accordingly - think of the Republic crest which decorates both Jesse’s face and his helmet, and becomes a hard-hitting symbol of the end of the Republic which accompanies his death.
In The Bad Batch, clone armor has always been used to symbolize the character’s moral position- initially the main colors of the batch’s armor are black and red, showing both their power, and the element of mystery and otherness that they hold in comparison to standard clone groups. Crosshair’s turn to the empire is shown by him shedding his own armor, and donning a new, entirely black set, with no individuality at all.
In season two, the batch began removing certain sections of their armor and added pieces of a more civilian nature, such as Hunter’s scarf. The pieces of armor that remained were painted a lighter colour, showing that they were gradually leaving their lives as soldiers, or at least those of members of an elite squad, behind them.
In contrast, if you look at a character like Rex, he is still wearing the same armor from his service in the GAR, with only a few minor yet still currently unexplained modifications. He is the one holding onto the past and his service in the army, and it is his identity which drives him to save as many of his brothers as he can.
All of these ideas are particularly apparent in the new season three character posters which have just been released.
Now, while I have previously discussed the idea that the clone assassin is Tech, these posters have me equally convinced that it could actually be Cody.
I believe that Cody has the longest history of any clone in the franchise, being the only clone of any significance in the live-action films, and being prominent in both canon and legends material. As a standard clone, he would most likely have started his commission in the GAR with the general, all white trooper armor, and then decorated it himself as he gained individuality after leaving Kamino. In Brotherhood, the novel which takes place in 22BBY, Cody is described as wearing yellow armor, but, as we see in The Clone Wars, which takes place slightly later, his armor, along with that of the 212th, is more of an orange/gold. This small change could symbolize Cody’s own choice of armor paint being subtly darkened by his experience of war - he is still a loyal soldier of the GAR, but his experiences have changed him.
The orange armor quickly became synonymous with Cody, which is why it was such a shock to audiences to see him with grey armor in The Bad Batch season two. It is a sign that his individuality has been stripped away from him by the empire, but Cody himself still retains the capacity for individual thought and decision making, as shown by his actions in the episode. I also believe that clone armor colors not only symbolize the clones themselves, but also their Jedi generals - the 212th orange symbolized the positivity and energy which came alongside serving under General Kenobi, just as the 501st blue symbolized the freedom and fresh viewpoints of General Skywalker. Therefore, Cody’s grey armor also symbolizes his grief for what he did to Obi-Wan - the man who first provided him the space to discover his own individuality is now ‘dead’ at Cody’s own hand.
I have also long believed that there is a high chance that Cody did not end up escaping at the end of this episode, and was instead captured by the empire for use in experiments.
The release of these character posters seems very deliberate - Star Wars has always been about the battle between light and dark, but due to it’s association with the force, I don’t think we have ever seen clones portrayed in posters in such a manner. The cinematography staff of The Bad Batch have been very vocal recently on the importance of lighting in the show, and I believe that the posters are no exception.
If we look at these poster in order, it is interesting that Wolffe’s seems to be darker than the one featuring Hemlock and Emerie, especially considering how stable he appeared in the past episode.
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I believe that this symbolizes that there will be consequences for Wolffe for his decision to let Rex and the others escape, and that he will be subjected to the same treatment which was used in an attempt to change Crosshair, which will leave him the unstable individual we first meet in Rebels.
This idea of placing the clones on a scale from light to dark has me concerned that this season will show the end of Cody’s arc, shifting from the bright white armor he first began with, ending with him wearing the dark armor of a clone assassin.
This idea is only furthered by Rex’s group referring to the clone assassins as ‘shadows’. The reason behind the name is obvious- the clones are shadows of their former selves, having been stripped of all identifying information and individuality.
Considering that Cody’s bright orange armor has long been thought to represent the sun, it would be devastating to see him reduced to an operative with no name and no personality, his only identifying feature being dark armor he would never choose to wear himself. Though I hate to think of it, it does make sense to portray Cody in this way to truly highlight the rise of the empire in the same way Jesse symbolized the end of the Republic - if this theory does turn out to be true, Cody’s arc may have always been intended to show his progression from sunburst to shadow.
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