#uncanny avengers 2012

[avengerscompound]

Wanda Maximoff

Uncanny Avengers (2012)

#marvel #avengers #marveledit #comicedit #wandamaximoffedit #scarletwitchedit #wanda maximoff #scarlet witch #uncanny avengers (2012) #daniel acuna #616 #marvel comics #avengerscompoundedit

[wandaxpietro]

[Uncanny Avengers (2012) #14]

#wanda maximoff #rogue #anna marie lebeau #Simon Williams #uncanny avengers (2012) #toby reads comics #tw blood

[illyanarasputinfan]

1984 - The New Mutants

1986 - X-Men

1988 - The New Mutants

1991 - The New Mutants

2004 - New X-Men

2009 - The New Mutants

2012 - Avengers vs. X-Men

2013 - Uncanny X-Men

2016 - Extraordinary X-Men

2022 - The New Mutants

#The New Mutants #X-Men #New X-Men #Avengers vs. X-Men #Uncanny X-Men #Extraordinary X-Men #Magik #Illyana Rasputin #Illyana Rasputina #Marvel #Marvel Comics #Comic Books #Polls #Namor #Emma Frost #Colossus #Cyclops #The Thing #Captain America #Hawkeye #Magma #Cypher #Sunspot #Cannonball #Mirage #Wolfsbane #Warlock #Karma #Lockheed the Dragon #Hope Summers

[ibrithir-was-here]

Decided I must share this absolute insanity with Tumblr as I just rediscovers this mad little gem again after a literal decade

This video is entirely unedited, it straight up just the full og Avengers trailer, uncut, with a very particular song put over it. And how much it matches up is truly uncanny

Anyway enjoy the nostalgiac madness of a simpler, very 2012 time xD

(Also please go give the OG creator a like, somehow they've only got 7 in twelve years :p )

#the avengers #YouTube #avengers memes #the lorax #thneed #gosh finding this was like recovering buried memories xD #my apologies to anyone who has Oncler 'nam flashbacks #i wasnt technicslly on tumblr at the time but Ive heard the stories #I think my favorite bits are the 'and now I glow' for the Hulk #and the Parkinglot bit with the Helicarrier

[nightmareinfloral]

Eye-Boy: Where to Read?

Trevor Hawkins, also known as Eye-Boy, is a mutant whose entire body is covered in a total of 57 eyes. These eyes give him enhanced visual abilities such as telescopic, microscopic, night, and x-ray vision, as well as allow him to very accurately read micro-expressions, body language, and nonverbal cues. He can also emit blasts of solar energy. Below the cut is a complete list of Trevor’s appearances updated as of April 2024.

Wolverine and the X-men (2011) 19, 21-23, 25, 27-29, 31

A+X (2012) 4, 9

Wolverine and the X-men (2011) 32, 38-39, Annual 1, 40-42

Young Avengers (2013) 14

Wolverine and the X-men (2014) 1-2

Nightcrawler (2014) 1

Wolverine (2014) 4

Wolverine and the X-men (2014) 3-6

Nightcrawler (2014) 5

Wolverine and the X-men (2014) 10

Nightcrawler (2014) 8

Spider-man and the X-men (2014) 1-6

Storm (2014) 10-11

All-New X-men (2015) 9

Star-lord (2016) 1

X-men: Gold (2017) 1

Generation X (2017) 1-3

X-men: Gold (2017) 7

Generation X (2017) 4-6

X-men: Gold (2017) 14

Generation X (2017) 8-9, 85

Iceman (2017) 9

X-men: Gold (2017) Annual 1

Generation X (2017) 86

Iceman (2017) 10

Generation X (2017) 87

Venomized (2018) 1, 4

Old Man Logan (2016) 39-40

Iceman (2018) 1

Domino (2018) Annual 1

X-men: Black- Mojo (2018) 1

The Merry X-men Holiday Special (2018) 1

Uncanny X-men (2018) 9, 10

Age of X-man: Apocalypse and the X-Tracts (2019) 1-5

Age of X-man: Omega (2019) 1

New Mutants (2019) 7

Giant-Size X-men: Nightcrawler (2020) 1

X-Factor (2020) 1-3

X of Swords: Destruction (2020) 1

X-Factor (2020) 5

Excalibur (2019) 16

X-Factor (2020) 6

New Mutants (2019) 15

X-Factor (2020) 7

New Mutants (2019) 16

X-Factor (2020) 8

Women of Marvel (2021) 1

Hellfire Gala Guide (2021) 1

X-Factor (2020) 9

New Mutants (2019) 18

Excalibur (2019) 21

X-Factor (2020) 10

Children of the Atom (2021) 6

X-men: The Trial of Magneto (2021) 1

Marauders (2019) 23

X-men: The Trial of Magneto (2021) 2

X-men Unlimited Infinity Comic (2021) 6

X-men: The Trial of Magneto (2021) 3-5

X-men Unlimited Infinity Comic (2021) 20, 42

X-men (2021) 20

Love Unlimited Infinity Comic (2022) 44

X-men Unlimited Infinity Comic (2021) 86-87

Marvel’s Voices: X-men (2023) 1

#trevor hawkins #eye boy #x men #marvel comics #marvel #reading guide #comic recommendations

[ethanreedbooks]

Clash of Titans: Captain America and the Avengers Meet the X-Men in X-Men '97!

Could the Appearance of Captain America and the Avengers Bring About a War with the X-Men?

The potential ramifications of Captain America and the Avengers intersecting with the X-Men storyline in X-Men '97 raise intriguing questions about the dynamics between these iconic superhero teams. While the appearance of Captain America offers a compelling narrative twist and enriches the series' world-building, it also introduces the possibility of conflict between the two groups.

Avengers vs. X-Men (AvX or AvsX) is a 2012 crossover event that was featured in comic books published by Marvel Comics. The event, consisting of an eponymous limited series and numerous tie-in books, involves the return of the Phoenix Force and the subsequent war between the Avengers and the X-Men. The 12-issue twice-monthly series was first published in April 2012, and features a storyline by Jason Aaron, Brian Michael Bendis, Ed Brubaker, Jonathan Hickman, and Matt Fraction, with a rotating team of artists including John Romita Jr., Olivier Coipel, and Adam Kubert.

Captain America's presence underscores the global impact of the Genosha tragedy and aligns with his established role as a symbol of hope and leadership in the Marvel Universe. However, his differing ideology and approach to justice may clash with the X-Men's methods, particularly in the aftermath of Rogue's vigilante actions. As a beacon of morality and order, Captain America may view the X-Men's actions as reckless or misguided, potentially leading to tension and disagreement between the teams.

Moreover, the Avengers' involvement could complicate the X-Men's ongoing struggles with anti-mutant sentiment and government persecution. If the Avengers perceive the X-Men as a threat or liability, it could escalate into a larger conflict, especially if other Avengers members share Captain America's concerns.

On the other hand, collaboration between the two teams offers exciting storytelling opportunities and the potential for alliances forged in the face of common threats. Their shared commitment to protecting humanity could ultimately outweigh any initial differences, leading to a united front against formidable adversaries like Bastion and Mister Sinister.

The event was preceded by the four-issue limited series Avengers: X-Sanction by Jeph Loeb and Ed McGuinness and Avengers vs. X-Men #0. Avengers vs. X-Men also ties into the limited series AVX: VS, described as "the fight book" which expands upon many of the one-on-one battles featured in the main series, the digital series; Avengers vs. X-Men: Infinite, and into a number of ongoing series including Avengers, Avengers Academy, New Avengers, Secret Avengers, Uncanny X-Men, Wolverine and the X-Men and X-Men: Legacy. The event was succeeded by the limited series AvX: Consequences.

Overall, while the appearance of Captain America and the Avengers adds depth and complexity to the X-Men '97 narrative, it also introduces the possibility of conflict and rivalry between these beloved superhero groups. The repercussions of their interactions may shape the future direction of the series, offering fans thrilling storylines and compelling character dynamics to explore.

#captain america #rogue #nightcrawler #cyclops #jean grey #x men #avengers #wolverine #gambit #jubilee #sunspot #beast #genosha #henry gyrich #oliver trask #sentinels #uncanny xmen #marvel comics #x men 97 #ultimate x men #fall of x

[bad-comic-art]

From Uncanny Avengers (2012) #23

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submitted by @avengerscompound​

#scarlet witch #wanda maximoff #sanford greene #marvel #comics #comic books

[froggynelson]

THE FOGGY APPEARANCES MASTERPOST

So I decided, after literal years of relying on places like the marvel wiki and comicvine to look for and double check Foggy Nelson's appearances throughout the marvel universe, to go and make a comprehensive list of his appearances outside of the main Daredevil title, counting Daredevil limited series and one off stories, along with cameos and alternate universes. The intention was to streamline the process for myself so i dont have to scour through pages and pages every time I wanna remember which comic that one thing happened, but hey, why not make the process of finding comics easier for people who aren't as deranged as I am? So here I made this post, from a real Fog-head to other Fog-heads out there, listing every issue outside of the Daredevil title (as it is more straightforward to find him, and extremely long to type on this list) he appears in, from barely there cameos to central roles, sorted by whether they are set in Earth 616 or not, and in no particular order. This is simply a list to serve as a guide to find him, it is not a curated list so the quality varies wildly, but I hope you're all as curious as I was to find all the most obscure and niche Foggies out there. Enjoy :)

EDIT 1: The original post had been published without one of my alterations to the draft saving, so if you reblogged it without this edit, the list was missing 14 titles.

616:

Daredevil (1964) Annuals: #1, #2, #3, #4, #8, #9

Daredevil (1998) Annuals: #1

Daredevil: Yellow: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6

Daredevil: Redemption: #1, #6

Marvel Graphic Novel: #24 (Daredevil: Love and war)

Daredevil: Cage Match: #1

Daredevil: Man Without Fear (2019): #1, #2, #5

Daredevil: Dark Nights: #3

Shadowland: #5

Shadowland: After the Fall: #1

Black Panther: Man Without Fear: #513, #521, #522

Daredevil vs Punisher: #2

Daredevil/Spider-Man: #2, #3, #4

Punisher Kill Krew: #2, #3, #4, #5

Daredevil: Battlin' Jack Murdock: #2

Daredevil: Blood of the Tarantula: #1

Daredevil: Reborn: #3, #4

Daredevil: Father: #1, #2, #5, #6

Daredevil/Deadpool: Annual '97

Devil's Reign: #3, #4

Devil's Reign Omega: #1

Elektra Lives Again: #1

Dark Reign: Elektra: #2

Uncanny Origins: #13

Power Man and Iron Fist (1978): #77

The Amazing Spider-Man (1963): #16, #42, #43, #65, #218, #429, #438

Spectacular Spider-Man (1978): #240, #242, #250

Spider-Man (1990): #75

Spider-Man Unlimited (1993): #13

Spider-Man/Kingpin: To the Death: #1

Untold Tales of Spider-Man: Annual '97

Uncanny X-Men (1963): #46

The New Warriors: #21, #23, #24, #25

Marvels: #2

Captain Universe: Daredevil

White Tiger: #1

Marvel Fanfare (1982): #1, #27

Marvel Team-up (1972): #25, #107, #141

Marvel Team-up (2004): #9

Marvel Two in one (1974): #37, #38, #78

Marvel Age: Annual #1

Avengers (1998): #26

New Avengers (2005): #1, #2, #3

Iron Man (1968): #35, #327, #328

Iron Man (1998): #1

Captain America (1968): #234

The Incredible Hulk (1968): #153

Superior Iron Man: #3

Ka-Zar (1997): #15, #17

Over the Edge: #6, #10

Silver Sable and the Wild Pack: #23, #28

Cosmic Ghost Rider Destroys Marvel History: #6

Onslaught: Marvel Universe: #1

X-Man: #21

Fantastic Four (1961): Annual #3

Fantastic Four (1998): #35, #47, #48

Fantastic Four: The Wedding Special 2006: #1

Thunderstrike (1993): #16

Spider-Man/Black Cat: #4

The Marvel Saga: #1, #13

The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: Daredevil 2004: #1

Marvel Encyclopedia: #5

The Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe: Update '89: #5

Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe A to Z: #8

OTHER UNIVERSES:

Daredevil Noir: #1, #3, #4

Daredevil: End of days: #1, #5, #8

Daredevil: Man Without Fear (1992): #2, #3, #4, #5

Daredevil: Season One (2012): #1

Spider Gwen (2015, vol. 1): #1

Spider Gwen (2015, vol 2): #9, #20, #21, #22, #24, #27, #33

Powerless: #1, #2, #3, #4, #5

Ultimate Daredevil and Elektra: #1, #2, #3, #4

Ultimate Elektra: #1, #2

Ultimate Spider-Man (2000): #109, Annual #2

Survive!: #1

The Ultimates 2: #3

Spidey Super Stories: #43, #50

Marvel Adventures Super Heroes: #9

Marvel Age Spider-Man: #15

Not Brand Echh (1967): #2, #4, #9

What the--?!: #3, #11

Peter Porker, The Spectacular Spider-Ham: #7

Marvel Hostess ads vol.1 #7

Secret Wars, too: #1

Secret Wars: Secret love: #1

Dark Ages: #2

Marvel Knights: 20th: #1

Marvel Nemesis: The Imperfects: #2

Avengers Halloween Special: #1

Contest of Champions (2015): #4

1602: #1

1872: #2

Paradise X: #10

Marvels X: #2

What if? Daredevil: #1

What if? Daredevil vs Elektra: #1

What if Karen Page had lived?: #1

What if? (1977): #8, #35, #38

What if...? (1989): #26, #73, #89, #102, #105

Spider Girl: #0, #17, #63, #74, #82, #85

Spider-Man: Chapter One: #9

Mutant X: Annual #3

Daredevil/Batman: #1

Daredevil/Shi: #1

Daredevil: The Movie Adaptation: #1

Sins of Sinister: #1

#daredevil #daredevil comics #foggy nelson #hooo boy

[themanuscrpt]

top five favorite comic books and top five fav maisie songs!

1) uncanny x-men (2018)

2) all-new x-men (2012)

3) marauders (2019)

4) x-men red (2018)

5) young avengers (2013)

and i already answered maisie songs but ill do it again

1) body better

2) tough act

3) history of man

4) coming of age

5) the list

ask me my top 5 _____!

#esme tag #asks

[meruz]

I just got marvel unlimited and am lost on what to read. Do you have any recs?

I really believe the best way to get into cape comics is to follow your heart and just consume content abt whatever character/concept interests you regardless of whether its good or right or canon. THAT being said if you have a particular character/(s) youre interested in I can probably point u in the right direction? lmk! More generally tho these are recs I kind of just hand out to everyone if they show even vague interest in comics LOL:

New Mutants (1983)

Alias (2001)

New X-Men (2001)

Ms.Marvel (2014)

Hawkeye (2012)

Thor: God of Thunder (2012)

Spider-man and the X-Men (2014)

Daredevil (2014)

Vision (2015)

The Unbelievable Gwenpool (2016)

The Immortal Iron Fists (2017)

House of X/Powers of X (2019)

Can you tell I became a marvel reader in the 2010s LOLL. a lot of these are kind of easy intro and/or self-contained reads there's older runs I don't feel as connected to but still remember positively also. Bendis and Brubaker's Daredevil, the OG Uncanny X-Men by Chris Claremont, Immortal Iron Fist and The Invincible Iron Man by Matt Fraction, Jonathan Hickman's Fantastic Four and Avengers. I also really like Bendis' New Avengers and Uncanny X-Men (vol 3) + All New X-Men even though they have their issues.

#ask #comics #blah blah blah blah

[avengerscompound]

Wanda Maximoff

Uncanny Avengers (2012)

#marvel #avengers #marveledit #comicedit #wandamaximoffedit #scarletwitchedit #wanda maximoff #scarlet witch #uncanny avengers (2012) #steve mcniven #616 #marvel comics #avengerscompoundedit

[wandaxpietro]

[Uncanny Avengers (2012) #12]

#wanda maximoff #Simon Williams #uncanny avengers (2012) #toby reads comics

[hasarjunadoneanythingwrong]

Oh yeah. There was a lot of that sort of lying about interviews with a bunch of jp media usually shipping related. Though with Pokémon it was often about unreleased/upcoming content that got disproven quickly since it’s just so massive a franchise.

so i dont know about pokemon related stuff or shipping although from what i've heard since the person in question got banned from the fate subreddit they've since moved on to dangan ronpa so maybe they talk about it there but in regards to fate theyve made a lot of claims like

The light novel was greenlit by Nasu, as supervisor, Higashide as writter and Konoe as illustrator art.

David, St.George, Kintoki Sakata & Musashibo Benkei were scrapped by Kinoko Nasu’s idea.

Nasu said these servants doesn’t fit into plot and they were replaced by four new servants instead.

Chiron, Avicebron & Achilles were designed by Takeuchi & Nasu, illustrated by Konoe in charge of character design.

Mordred is the culture of festival achievement thanks from TYPE MOON fanbase.

Addition of Mordred into F/A was Takeuchi’s idea and Nasu agreed.

Mordred was orginally to be male but Nasu feel that having two male characters look feminine (the other being Astolfo) would be too much.

However, Mordred as a male was not Nasu’s claim of actual fact. In truth, Nasu didn’t decided for final Mordred’s gender since Fate/Stay Night until Fate/Apocrypha. Which mean Mordred was “genderless” in F/SN.

After the project of online game was scrapped, Nasu said that all servants are too ridiculous powerful and might bored if the player’s powerful servant was facing against other player’s powerful servant. It’s like a hax.

The online game was based on Infamous 2’s gameplay style.

Nasu & Takeuchi were laughing about more Saber clone. In fact, Mordred is the real clone of Saber (Altria), so the wish has come true for those people who still saying about Saber clone.

Karna is Nasu’s favorite servant. Karna’s popularity has been skyrocket thanks to Fate/Extra CCC.

Astolfo is Konoe’s favourite servant. He is symbol mascot of Fate/Apocrypha. Higashide can’t even tell if this is comfortable or not since Astolfo is dude.

Yggdmillennia, Sisigou & Kotomine Shirou were planned by Nasu, Takeuchi & Higashide.

Higashide wrote all Sisigou, Reika & Black camp’s character development, while Homunculus, Kotomine Shirou & four new servants’s character development was already written by Nasu.

Nasu said that Shirou is basically a character who look to have “light outside and darker inside” personality. Uncanny different trait from Kirei.

Homunculus (Sieg) was Nasu & Takeuchi’s idea. Nasu wanted introduce male homunculus in Fate series for the first time.

Takeuchi & Konoe said Homunculus looks cute but dense person.

Takeuchi stated Homunculus & Jeanne are his new favorite characters, along with Altria.

Interviewer mention about why Takeuchi like Homunculus. He reply "It’s a secret" due it will trigger the spoiler.

Jeanne is based on real french student girl according to Takeuchi. She was at same college where Takeuchi studied, before he met someone as model of Arcueid Brunestud’s design from Tsukhime come to his mind.

The difference between Altria & Jeanne is sex appeal. Which is already explained in TYPE MOON April Fool 2012, where Heroine X (Altria) in furious when she heard that Jeanne’s sex appeal is better than her.

Tsukihime is Higashide’s favorite visual novel.

Nasu stated homunculus like Mordred can summoned as Heroic Spirit despite not human being.

The rules of magecraft in Apocrypha universe are same as in Fate/Stay Night & Fate/Zero except that there is no rule of Ruler classes.

Ruler’s duty is protect the Holy Grail and oversee the battle.

Interviewer asked Nasu & Higashide about why Jeanne hijack Leticia’s body rather than ritual summon. Nasu stated it was something broke the rule of HGW and corrupted the system.

Nasu mention the first servant who hijack human body is Avenger, Angra Mainyu from Fate/Hollow Ataraxia. Who control Emiya Shirou’s body and mind since he has no body but void form. The theory that come from Rin Tohsaka was correct.

Roa from Tsukihime was also can hijack the human body (Ciel & Tohno SHIKI) but reincarnation soul while he was in Akasha.

Nasu & Higashide admit it was silly idea in the first place. But they wanted Jeanne to have some disadvantages/weakness for herself due she was powerful servant and might kinda “boring” if she summoned as spirit form. (Avoid fan calling her a mary sue).

Which mean any servant can hijack the human body while in critical condition but it's rarely.

Karna’s background story has been altered in comparison to his original myth in Mahabrarat. This means, Karna is Nasu!Karna, not Myth!Karna which we know.

The rule of summoning Ruler is who can guide the war during in his/her past and a sainthood(?) as specific condition. Only one Ruler class is summoned in one war. The this system works in Apocrypha universe only.

St.George was remove because of this. Karna, however he refuse refer himself a saint and a killing machine who can kill God, summoned as Lancer class instead.

The Greater Grail force summon the servant as Ruler when met the condition completed.

If Jeanne is summoned in different universe without rules of Ruler, her class will be obviously Saber. She still will be summoned as Ruler if the mishap of war affected the result in different universe.

Jeanne was first mention in Kara no Kyoukai’s light novel reference: Mikiya Kokutou mentions her when he was discussing about Heroic Spirits who utilized the power of the Counter Force.

While the design for Jeanne wasn’t made during the production of the Fate/Zero novels, the design was completed around the time of the anime adaptation.

most of which are straight up fabricated (one of the main things being the interview they source only talks to higashide and not nasu, and none of the points mentioned in this list are mentioned in said interview), banking on people not being able to read the interviews they source. other lies they've circulated include shimousa and heian kyo being unpopular in the jp fanbase (despite consitently polling well on jp sites) and more recently claiming that they also hated ibuki douji (which also seemed to be a catalyst for getting them banned on reddit). this isnt the only misinfo theyve been spreading and they were at it for over 10 years, and it's all over the fgo wiki

if you're interested about wtf this all is you can see some of the info about it here

#if you wonder why i dont claim k4rna is a fav of nasu anymore this is why. bc the only claim that he was was fucking made up lmao #my asks #but also like why. 10 years of just saying shit bc....? ??

[classicmarvelera]

The Most Epic Avengers/X-Men Story in 60 years

It’s hard to say which is the greatest Avengers story in the last 60 years. The same goes for X-Men 

Both teams came into existence on July 2nd, 1963 thanks to Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Both redefined the concept of a superhero team in the most Marvel way possible, and both have led to the creation of many new characters as well as comic book titles 

And yet, if we have to choose a story that involves both teams that was published at a time when both were dominating the headlines in the comic book industry, only one epic stands out from the rest 

But before we reveal our verdict, here’re some notable mentions in which Avengers & X-Men (core teams) crossed paths with each other:

Uncanny X-Men no. 9 (1964)

Uncanny X-Men no. 45/Avengers no. 53 (1968)

Secret Wars (1984)

Uncanny X-Men no. 190-191 (1985)

X-Men vs The Avengers (1987 Limited Series)

X-Men/Avengers Bloodties (1993, 30th Anniversary Crossover)

X-Men/Marvel Universe: Onslaught (1996) 

X-Men vs The Avengers (2012)

The Verdict

In 2005, rising star Brian Michael Bendis after shaking much of the Marvel Universe with his Avengers: Disassembled and Secret War stories gave the readers an epic: House of M 

The X-Men were riding high from Grant Morrison’s run while the Avengers were coming off the most shocking event in their history with some of their members being killed off for good by an out-of-control Scarlet Witch 

This is a story that broke heroes from within. This is a story that shocked the comic book community to the core. There were no Magneto’s Acolytes involved, nor there was Doctor Doom or the Beyonder as the main antagonist(s). While the title had implied Magneto through the use and emphasis on the letter ‘M’, the reality as it unfolded by issue no. 8 was completely mind-blowing for it involved two of the oldest Avengers that were the cause of this ordeal 

While Wanda’s madness has been explored before, this story took it to a whole new level. It changed the Marvel Universe (really) and it wounded our favorite heroes deeply, adding to their existing emotional traumas in the most unexpected ways possible   

It is a story where pleasant dreams shroud the heartbreaking realities of our superheroes until they break free from Wanda’s hex/hypnosis 

Get these Essential Reads

#House of M #Brian Michael Bendis #Olivier Coipel #Marvel Comics #Avengers #X-Men #Avengers 60th Anniversary #X-Men 60th Anniversary

[616rogue]

cyclops, on control and feeling unfulfilled.

source: x-men: marvels snapshots (2020) #1. mr. robot (season 2, episode 7). avengers vs. x-men (2012) #6. the book of disquiet, by fernando pessoa. death of wolverine: life after logan (2014) #1. on earth we're briefly gorgeous, by ocean vuong. uncanny x-men (1963) #519. sue zhao. avengers vs. x-men (2012) #12. persepolis: the story of a childhood, by marjane satrapi.

(*) see other compilations here.

#x-men #cyclops #scott summers #web weaving #f: marvel #f: xmen #ch: scott summers #type: web weaving

[turtle-steverogers]

Tbh Mikey the only way I can have 2012 Steve Rogers thoughts is by imagining him telling Bucky these like. Incredibly fucked up or sad stories in the future and still not processing it as trauma. And Bucky is just like listening and then is just like, oh no baby this is a story about you being desperately sad, come here please let me hug you.

Like I have this headcanon that after Avengers Steve stakes his bike on a great American road trip, and he winds up on the California coast, because he and Bucky used to dream about going west together. And then he’s just there, standing alone on the beach, toes inches away from the water, and he can’t make himself go in. He’s maybe afraid of the water, because he doesn’t want to drown again; or maybe afraid of the water because he wants to drown again too much—and he keeps seeing Bucky’s face at 18, smiling and chatty because he just read a book about a hidden underwater city out there, and it’s not real but wouldn’t it be something to swim out there in the other ocean, Stevie? And all of the inside of Steve is screaming, and he can’t make himself move. Eventually he finds himself in a hotel room, no memory of how he got there, and the pain from a full body sunburn is what gives him the focus to shower and then lay on the ceiling, hot and feeling nothing.

Later when Bucky is back he tells a version of this story to Bucky, maybe in the context of a funny story—they went on vacation to the beach, and Steve still got burned as heck, and Bucky is applying aloe to Steve’s lobster back, complaining—“Geez Steve, haven’t you learned by now? I swear, this is the worst burn you’ve ever had”. And Steve is like, “Oh no, this is nothing, I went to the beach out west, you know, like we dreamed about. I didn’t find any hidden cities, just a sunburn so bad I cried about it. And the beach wasn’t even all that great without you there!” And then Bucky’s radar goes off and he teases the story out, little by little, and he reads between the lines enough to understand that actually this story is about trauma for Steve he just hasn’t processed yet. Idk I can only have 2012 Steve thoughts in the context of Steve telling unprocessed trauma stories and Bucky just loving on him so hard and giving him all the hugs and helping him process.

No, because I literally have so many thoughts surrounding the idea of Bucky slowly uncovering the sheer shit Steve went through coming out of the ice. And it's hard to believe, because Steve seems... functional when Bucky comes home, but Bucky learns that it's mostly Steve surviving, not actually living or taking care of himself.

But as time goes on, he uncovers the layers. The grief Steve went through beyond Bucky himself. Grief over the life he lost, the community he lost, the other people he lost, the sense of himself and his ability to somewhat control the public's perception of him that he lost, the home he lost-- hell, the familiarity he lost. The way no one talked to him-- not really. Not how it counted. People mostly talked to Cap, not Steve, and no one touched him either. How Steve would seek out sex and mindless hook-ups to quell some of that loneliness. To be touched with some ounce of intent, even though the more Bucky hears about that, the more unsafe it appears Steve was with his sexual experiences. Rough and not entirely informed. Wary consent and instances of little respect. Intimacy shoved out the window. The way SHIELD bugged him, trailed him, manipulated him. Morphed him into a weapon of their own. Controlling him through perceived freedoms. The way Steve had to live in an uncanny understanding of the world. Of his home. His city out of focus and moved on without him.

How long Steve pushed through on autopilot, thinking it was fine. Things were fine. He's fine. But the more Bucky digs in, the more he finds and there's so much Steve has locked away. Repressed with every ounce of his being. Things Bucky didn't even know before the war-- things about his home life and his father and the way bullies could be more subtle than the punches. The way bullies could have been people who should have known better and found Steve in a vulnerable place.

And it aches. It aches to see Steve so hurt. His good Stevie. So caring. So kind. So desperate to be kind to a world that's rarely been kind to him.

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