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#way back when I made like a parody version of this for ''how to tell your spider-men apart by adjective''
oliveroctavius · 3 months
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Sorry About The Spider-Man Acronyms: A Guide for the anon @hawkogurl got, or anyone else who needs it. This is only a small selection of Spidey media, but it's the ones that are commonly referred to in shorthand like this.
Movies:
SM1, SM2, SM3: Spider-Man movies directed by Sam Raimi, starring Tobey Maguire.
TASM, TASM2: The Amazing Spider Man movies directed by Marc Webb, starring Andrew Garfield.
MCU: The Marvel Cinematic Universe.
ITSV, ATSV, BTSV: Into, Across, and Beyond The Spider-Verse animated movies.
TV shows:
TNAS: Spider-Man The New Animated Series (2003). People mostly forget this one exists.
TSSM: The Spectacular Spider-Man (2008). Sometimes written as SSM.
USM: Ultimate Spider-Man (2012).
MSM or MSM 2017: Marvel's Spider Man (2017).
Comic series titles:
ASM: The Amazing Spider-Man. Sometimes written as TASM.
SSM: The Spectacular Spider-Man. Sometimes written as TSSM.
WSM or WOSM: Web of Spider-Man.
SM/DP: Spider-Man/Deadpool.
USM: Ultimate Spider-Man.
SM2099: Spider-Man 2099. (Miguel's origin series.)
Frequently used comics universe numbers:
616: The main Marvel comics universe, including ASM, SSM, WSM, and virtually every mainline comic since the sixties.
1610: The "Ultimate" universe, including USM, launched in 2000 and closed in 2015. Miles Morales' home universe.
65 or Earth-65: Spider-Gwen's home universe.
MC2: An alt future universe where Peter's daughter is Spider-Girl.
6160: The... new alt future "Ultimate" universe just opened in 2024. I still don't know what's going on there.
Other random acronyms you'll see:
SM PS4/MSM, MSM2: the Marvel's Spider-Man games from Insomniac.
OMD: One More Day, the name for the 2007 story arc which broke up Peter & MJ's marriage, among other changes.
BND: Brand New Day, the comic arc immediately after OMD. OMD/BND are really two halves of the same whole, so you'll see people use them interchangeably.
KLH: The Kraven's Last Hunt storyline.
TCW: The Child Within storyline.
JMD: J. M. DeMatteis, a comic writer who did both Kraven's Last Hunt and The Child Within.
I hope this helps and, uh, good luck.
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thedupshadove · 9 months
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Thought that came to me out of a clear blue sky…Little Shop of Horrors roleswap au. 
Same setup at the beginning, but it’s Audrey who impulse-buys the Strange and Interesting Plant (which she probably names Seymour the Second), cares for it, and discovers its…unusual dietary needs (maybe instead of bandaids, she covers the wounds on her hands by wearing gloves more often, apparently as a fashion statement. Or maybe she chalks it up to Orin.) Success comes to the shop, with Audrey being the one to get radio interviews and sudden acclaim (boosting her confidence somewhat, but only convincing Seymour even more firmly that he could never ask her out. She was always too beautiful for him, and now with this influx of cash she’s going to end up a lady, so how could somebody like him have any chance? If only he knew…)
Once the plant begins to talk, it convinces her to kill Mushnik first, by highlighting how mean he is to Seymour after that boy’s done nothing but slave for him all his life in exchange for scraps of scraps. She tells herself that she’s going to confront him first, and only if she can’t make him see reason will she use the derringer in her purse, but inevitably… 
I want to preserve the “I can off this guy by staying in the chair” moment, but obviously Mushnik doesn’t use nitrous oxide recreationally…right now I’ve got it down to a choice between a sudden heart attack where Audrey just…doesn’t call an ambulance, or else he’s eating during their conversation (to show how little mind he pays to requests to treat Seymour better), and she conspicuously fails to Heimlich him when he chokes. 
In the aftermath of Mushnik’s death (which of his two assistants did he leave the shop to? I’m not sure yet), Audrey does her best to help Seymour through his tangled emotions, assuaging his guilt at not being as sad as he should be by pointing out that Mushnik was never as nice to him as he should have been, after all. This culminates in an impulsive kiss that breaks the tension between them into an open declaration of love…which Orin just happens to overhear. 
He corners her later that evening, more angry than she’s ever seen him (and we all know that’s saying something), but unfortunately for him he made the mistake of staging his jealous little rage in the flower shop, so when she bats her eyes and calls him “Doctor” and explains that the plant has some spines on the front, so if they make love with her back against it surely that will show him just how sorry she is…well, Suppertime indeed. 
From there things can run pretty much the same as the original, to whichever version of the ending you prefer. Now, let’s talk songs! 
Most of them can be kept pretty much the same, with at most some shuffling around parts and re-writing lyrics. “Suddenly Seymour” can even keep its title phrase, with the lyrics being shifted to be about Audrey convincing Seymour that he’s someone worth paying attention to. The only real sticking point is “Somewhere That’s Green”. Since Audrey, as our new main character, will be getting the likes of “Grow for Me” and “The Meek Shall Inherit”, it seems only fair that Seymour, having been moved to the position of Love Interest, should get the Love Interest Song. But it can’t be as simple as moving some pronouns around–a guy wishing for the woman he’s interested in to be a parody of a 50s housewife has a different vibe from a woman wishing to be one herself. It’s a little too unsympathetic, especially now that Seymour isn’t even the murderer. But then what do we do with it? With Audrey being the one leading the way to financial success, is the song now about Seymour’s secret, socially-deviant desire to become a malewife?
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fizzyorange-v2 · 11 months
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yeah you put all of my thoughts about david and william's relationship into that one post they're so tragic... i cant help but think of a different timeline where they could have been awkward brothers together, maybe one where they didn't both come from deadwood. the foreshadowing on william's part too, where in the Michael in the Bathroom parody intro from ep 32 (of all places) william sings "he's always such a bummer, he wants to trust his brother" in referring to himself. Also, the implication that everyone who comes from deadwood is messed up makes me wonder how william's parents are. maybe it has to do with the hallway of fears all the way from season 1, where william's mirror showed his father behind him with messed up eyes?
/ pd ep 33 spoilers referenced beware
Maybe in a totally different universe they could’ve had an awkward and strained but mostly healthy and normal sibling relationship. but god knows with who David is in this universe (a morally corrupt ceo) any version of William that allows himself to get close with and trust his step brother is a version that is either equally morally corrupt, very manipulated or both, and no matter what it wouldn’t be a healthy dynamic. (and that’s not really a compliant on my part, i adore fucked up and messy relationships in media lol).
Totally agree that the Michael In The Bathroom cover gave us probably one of the clearest looks into William’s psyche during this whole thing. William really did go that far because he wanted to trust his brother, and he knew if he backed out then he could lose that potential sibling relationship forever. But obviously once he realised he’d actually KILLED someone for it… the betrayal and horror overpowered that old yearning.
William’s parents have always been a source of interest to me because like… William has never said anything outwardly negative about them, but then his actions and demeanour around them always portray something slightly different. I do believe he loves and cares for his parents. But I also think the relationship there has always been kind of strained. My guess is, on top of the general David was the big shot success story William could never live up to, William was always quite distant with his family. He could always see the supernatural (something that even then made him somewhat a freak from this weird but still rural seemingly conservative leaning town) and he spent most of his time out with friends on hunts that I doubt he ever told his parents the truth of before he actually died.
His parents are canonically church goers, it would make sense that William wouldn’t want to tell them he was messing around with devilish stuff, nor that he himself was possessed in some way and able to see the dead. But then he dies, and his freakishness goes from 1 to 100 and there’s no way he can hide it now, especially not if his parents are shown his dead, lifeless body before he wakes back up in it. And maybe his parents saw this as a miracle at first, rather than the work of the devil, but either way we know from the recent rolled that William truly believes his parents see him as some freak, and I’d definitely guess the other towns people if they knew… maybe it wasn’t great for the family reputation wise in such a small town.
And there is something to the fact that, well, in the end when the monsters came for William they did just give him away to the heroes. And sure, they stayed in touch somewhat? But even then it’s one or two calls in months to years of time to your teenaged kid (though I’ll retract that if it’s implied that it was William dodging their calls… but even that leads to a point I’ll make in a bit).
But then whenever they do come back,,, even after everything they don’t seem to take William seriously. Which is very interesting. They’re often worried about him, but they don’t seem to listen to him as we saw in their recent scene where his mum got mad and had to be really persuaded to leave. They don’t seem to comprehend the severity.
They don’t understand what’s going on with him, they don’t have a clue, and I don’t think they ever really did. I think William has always been too afraid to tell them the truth about what’s going on with him (whether that was being able to see the dead, or now all the hero villain mess he’s stuck in), he’s always been afraid of them seeing him like a freak, them no longer loving him. And so he keeps it a secret and he keeps it away from them and he distances himself the best he can. He’d probably argue that it’s to keep them safe, but I think he’s mostly protecting his own heartbreak of them finding out “who he really is” and rejecting him. I think that’s his big fear, and it’s a fear he’s carried around with him since even before his first death.
So while I don’t think his parents are,,, necessarily malicious. I think they’ve definitely fucked up with William. I don’t think they ever made him feel safe enough to be himself around them. I don’t think they’ve ever been there for William when he really needed. And I don’t think they’ve ever known who their son was. But then they still act like they know best for him, they still play the concerned parents. And I think they genuinely believe they do know and want what’s best for William. But the issue there is… they don’t know who William is, and they haven’t for a really long time.
David left too, y’know? He also got the hell out deadwood as soon as he could. He also talked to (and bonded with) William over their clear joint disliking of that place. And I wonder if his parents are oblivious to how much their kids hated where they grew up, if they’re just oblivious to all of the weirdness of deadwood. Why they chose to live and stay there in the first place. They still live there to this day!
I don’t know,,, I have a lot of thoughts about the wisp-bell family and all the mess and dysfunction there. I didn’t even really get into the religious trauma of it all, which is likely a strong part of why William felt the need to hide and distance himself from his parents,,, but yeah I’ll stop rambling for now lol
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flower-boi16 · 8 months
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I know many people see the episode Witches Before Wizards as nothing but a filler episode, but I disagree, it's one of the most underrated episodes of the show imo. The episode first shows how The Boiling Isles isn't the idealized fantasy world that Luz expected it to be, as Eda and King say it's actually very nihilistic. Then while delivering stuff for Eda, Luz comes across a wizard in a castle that says she's a chosen one to get the celestial staff.
After Eda and King mock her for this, Luz goes on the quest and goes into what looks like a village, something that looks more like Luz's idealized fantasy world that she thought the boiling isles was gonna be like, and for a second she does think that this is what the boiling isles really is, because it fits her idealized version of a fantasy world more than what it's actually like.
However, as the episode progresses, we begin to see that Luz is being tricked, when King tells Eda what Luz is doing and finds that Luz is being tricked. Later in the episode when Luz reaches the end of her quest and she gets the staff, it was a trap all along as a weird creature thing reveals itself and says that he wanted to lure Luz in because he knows Eda will come to save her, and ofc, she does. After they fight off the monster and defeat him we get the ending scene.
Luz is sad that the boiling isles isn't the fantasy world she thought she was, and to cheer her up, Eda goes and takes Luz to a mystery flight on her staff, and takes her to a beautiful view of the boiling Isles bones. They tell Luz that while the boiling isles is kind of a slimy, stinky and gross place, if you look at it from a different perspective, it could look beautiful, and Eda tells Luz to choose herself instead of just waiting to be chosen.
I love that the episode took the chosen one trope and subverted it in a way that's interesting, where Luz wants to go on a fantasy quest to make herself feel special because she felt like a nobody back at her home, and wants to try and think that the boiling isles is idealized fantasy world she had in her head. She didn't feel like she was special back in her home, so going on this quest that is exactly what her version of boiling isles looked like made her feel like Azura (the main character in a book series that Luz obsesses over), a character who Luz wants to see herself in, so going on this quest made her live this fantasy world she always wanted in real life.
It's great for Luz's character and develops her in a great way. I also love the ending, where Luz sees that although the Boiling Isles isn't the perfect fantasy world Luz wanted it to be, if you look at it from a different perspective it could look beautiful in its own way.
Witches Before Wizards is the most underrated episode of the show for how it cleverly subverts and parodies the typical chosen one story into something interesting and what it does for Luz's character. Probably one of, if not the best episode of season 1, and one of my favorite episodes of the show. This episode does NOT deserve to be considered "filler".
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luthwhore · 10 months
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Waaay too late to the party, wanted to write back when you made the post about the twitter thread complaining about possibility of Lex being redeemed and forgot 70% of what I was gonna say, but I agree. Beyond personal preference, my argument is that the big part of the character and his dynamic has always been the "You could've used your genius for good" tragedy, and that just doesn't work if he's written as the evilest man on Earth. Might as well talk how sad it is Darkseid ain't running a utopia. I get how that can get unfomfortable with "He's a BAD billionare instead of a good one, which would be the best thing ever", but I think it can just as easily be framed as "he chose to be a billionare instead of a scientist"-hell, the vigilante thing fits into that pretty well!
exactly!! and tbh the fact that lex isn't an irredeemable monster is honestly one of the most interesting things about him? lex seems himself as a hero and he wants to do good, but ultimately his own ego usually ends up getting in the way of it, because he's usually more concerned about how other people perceive him than the actual effects of his actions.
there are also only so many stories you can tell that are "superman vs a super evil guy who has a lot of money and keeps buying his way out of trouble" and eventually, it's going to get boring and repetitive, esp bc it's disheartening to see superman lose over and over again.
his story is far more interesting, imo, when there is some kind of emotional stake for superman. when you have a superman who sees a sliver of good in lex, no matter how small. that's part of why i like seeing stories where lex is contrasted with the joker, because lex -- at least when written well -- has standards and isn't usually interested in harming civilians.
(probably the thing that will make me groan and tune out of a lex story faster than anything is seeing him referred to as "a sociopath", both bc i feel like it's a gross misrepresentation of his character, and because I'm personally really tired of seeing personality disorders tossed around as pejoratives.)
i think it's also very telling that -- at least in my observations -- people who care deeply about superman lore tend to prefer pre-crisis and superman: birthright lex over the byrne-era, whereas most people who want lex to just be the evil CEO -- or worse, who want him to be "updated" into just being a musk parody -- tend not to be people who actually read his comics or engage with superman lore in any meaningful way.
there's a reason, imo, that most superman content from the 2000s onward has been trying to retcon lex to be either closer to his pre-crisis iteration or closer to smallville, and that's bc those are the versions of the character people actually... you know... like.
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azumasoroshi · 1 year
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minidura chapter 3 react
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im gonna say this like 50 million times but i really cant get over how cute they are hhhhhhhhhh
he got mikado's name right!!! congratulations shizu-chan
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i think im just a sucker for surprised chibi shizuo or something he has no right to look so squishable
shizuo wants to be a good friend and give advice. noted for my fanfiction
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the way he phrases "calm down and stop throwing" is. pfff
i wonder if that's some wordplay in the japanese version too
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heiwajima "i hate violence" shizuo: punch your fiance.
also noted for my fanfiction: when frustrated shizuo's first thought is to punch, second thought is to tell him directly, third thought is a work in progress pffff
if i ever made like a vine compilation id use that "hmmm" panel as my transition between vines
they're so tiny so cute waguh
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im definitely not going crazy over those shizuo panels
celty and shizuo's friendship kills me btw it's so sweet and i love how laid back they both are. best blunt rotation /j
also wtf are those "tik tik tiks" is that a fucking bomb
i swear to god if it's another shinra gift that just looks like a bomb but explodes to celebrate their 4 month mark's anniversary or something im giving celty permission to strangle shinra
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i know it's for parody but shizuo punching a bomb has to be the funniest thing ive heard today
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goddammit shinra
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he's like the ultimate malewife but in the most annoying way possible. twitter malewife enthusiasts got what they wanted (trophy husband who will do literally anything for his girlboss wife and is madly in love with her and would shrivel up and die without her) but at what cost
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lafcadiosadventures · 7 months
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Madame Putiphar Readalong. Book Two, Chapter XXVI, Part One.:
Including:
Architecture terms!
sexy mandolin playing and foot kissing
Borel’s version of Like a Virgin!
a great idea for art analysis and sadly ends on Orientalism
endless cultural references, -i didn't cover them all, I didn't even mention Borromini my beloved- and endless asterixes and parenthesis on my behalf :P
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A Mermaid on a Dolphin's Back. Illustrated by John Gilbert Engraved by the Dalziel Brothers.
Let’s get the worst out of the way shall we? We have had various chapters sans big interventions by the narrator, here we have a pretty big, essaistic one. The questions Pétrus tackles in it is a fascinating one. Why is official art of a certain time period like it is, and what does it tell us about the ruling classes?  (more concretely, why is Rococo art influenced by """The Orient""")
Like Rousseau* before him, Borel doesn't separate the artform from the power it represents (something we invariably see brought up in pop culture/divulgation discussions on Asian, Egyptian, or Precolumbine art and architecture) but we rarely see this same scrutiny applied to Greek temples, or European Palaces (yes, I have a specific and relatively recent documentary in mind where the presenter was wanking hard at the enlightened beauties of ancient Greece and early modern Europe. Then we got to the Mexica chapter,,,, the focus was obviously put on Human Sacrifice-someone was in a bad need of reading Montaigne’s des cannibales, there WAS human sacrifice with religious and political aims in Europe at the time- the presenter argued that the intrinsic, racialized thirst for blood of the ancient Mexica lived on in Mexico today, and as an example our very bright presenter showed an audience enjoying.... a corrida.......... a Spanish import.)
*[I cannot find the original Rousseau quote, only how Kant paraphrases it in Critique of Judgement: “If someone asks me if I find the castle before my eyes beautiful I can surely reply: (...) like Rousseau, declaim(ing) against the vanity of the great ones who misspend the people’s sweat in such superfluous things. (...)”]
So, the problem at hand -how art voices the intentions/ideologies of those in power-, is interesting and legitimate. However, the complex, hard to pin down Borelesian Narrator, reaches some pretty fallacious and biased conclusions (what is this narrator like? Is it like Diderot’s stand in, the “je” in Rameau’s Nephew? a Diderot stand in, but also evidently portrayed by Denis as a classist, bland bonpensant (for example when the Nephew, who is usually the venal, cynical, sexist and more importantly, of a lower class character, says something “correct”, the character labelled as “je” condescends to him: “you don’t know how right you are!” the nephew bitterly replies, “yeah, you Philosophers think we (aka, the people) are correct only by accident!” Diderot makes the narrating je look and sound like him, and share some of his positive qualities, but it also voices flaws Diderot saw in himself, becoming a kind of self parody, and parody of the figure of the Philosopher as a whole. Borel’s narrator is contradictory, some of his views change from chapter to chapter, and his emphasis on chastity and religion for example do not seem consistent with views expressed elsewhere-> @sainteverge brought up the tale Medianoche, where the heroine is a Diderot reader while her father is a repressive religious fanatic, and the portrayal of Dillon and the dark priest in La caverne d''Arcueils hardly seem like creatures a catholic fanatic would come up with...)
So, what are the causes of orientalism in 1700’s France? The French aristocracy was as soft and decadent, and as autocratic as “the orientals”, that’s what made them interested in their art (the main problem here is that Borel does not distinguish between the diverse cultures and social strata that form the pot-pourri the Europeans melded into a monolith they call(ed) the Orient. Borel doesn’t have in mind the arts of the nomads of the Mongolian steppes for example. He has a very specific artstyle in mind, and his thesis wouldn’t have been that insane if he had not implied there is an “oriental” nature, like he wouldn’t speak of an "European" nature since he percieves the nations conforming europe as pretty diverse surely.... and if he had specified which strata of the cultures he had in mind he’s speaking of. If he had said, the autocrats here enjoyed the art of the autocrats over there, because it is an art form that both utilizes slave force to be crafted and expresses that way of government, which is the core of the idea he seems to be proposing, I could have agreed with him.) He does this instead:
“The limpness, the pleasures, the incest, the polygamy, the pederasty**, the joy, the no longer chivalrous but rather Moorish gallantry; the slavery and finally the lack of care for slavery, had assimilated two populations that are so different in other points. Up to Pharaoh who had his favourite sultana, his Parc-aux-Cerfs, his lettres-de-cachet, just as Mustapha had his harem and his cords. The Christian dogma which had rehabilitated Aesop was destroyed. Hercules and Venus, incarnating physical strength and beauty, were the only objects of worship. No more melancholy, no more chastity, no more modesty, no more meditation, no more reverie; nothing great, deep, sad, sublime! Eternal contemplation of God’s splendour, ridiculous! Instead, Muhammad and his joy, Muhammad and his sensuality, Muhammad and his houris. Indeed pure Islam reigned: in point of fact, under these wigs and baskets one was as muslim as under a turban and a basquine.”
(tr. @sainteverge )
The islamophobia is patent, the presentation of Christian culture (another monolith) as superior too. Is this supposed to be ironic? I cannot tell.
** (as everyone reading this surely knows, the term pederasty in the french 19th c included sexual attraction between men of the same age) I think it’s important to note that Borel figures in the index of pederasts of the French police -an index of people being surveiled for being sodomites, who curiously where also “loud and turbulent” republicans (as michael blix defines it, thanks cam for sharing that.)
After this thoroughly unpleasant paragraph, Borel returns to the events of the story. He focuses on the effect the legitimately intoxicating and seductive view of Pompadour playing her mandolin has on Patrick. The ambiance has the desired effect on Patrick’s still innocent soul, overcome with doubt and admiration, he plunges to Pompadour’s feet and kisses her soles. Her eyes fall on him from the heights of her nonchalance.
Then we get what Like a Virgin would have sounded like if Borel had written it:
“A suave feeling, of which she had lost the memory and which for that reason seemed as new to her as the first pulse of love in a young girl’s heart, was moistening her decrepit soul. Her body, worn out by debauchery, could usually not even be titillated by pleasure anymore, and yet it swooned before the chaste touch of a mouth placed on her foot.”
 (tr. By sainteverge)
(also I was exited to see Borel mentioning Philomela, but sadly not linked to Deborah as I had supposed in an earlier chapter, with the nightingale song, but curiously to Pompadour.... it’s an interesting choice since Philomela is clearly a victim and an avenging angel, none of which Pompadour is portrayed as, but it’s Patrick the innocent who calls her that, not the narrator, and he is refering to the singing)
Putiphar praises Patrick’s lyricism comparing him with gallant as Richelieu and poetic Dorat (writer of light, pleasing comedies, favoured by the mundanes in the VXIII th c), Patrick chooses more transgressive authors to correct her, “no, I’m actually like Young and Bayard” ->the latter a playright satirist of bourgeois mores. Putiphar enjoys conventional and conformist art, Patrick fights those choices with more transgressive authors. It’s like a miniature, low key battle of Hernani.
What follows is a key line about profit, money and the arts and voicing one’s opinions. Patrick obviously can earn very little by how he speaks. He is pretty fascinating here, definitely under Putiphar’s spell when he walks in, but he won’t flatter her like that other time or compromise his opinions when speaking to her... and that upsets her, there’s no way Patrick’s way of speaking will ever be lucrative for him, or help him ascend in court etc. He’s a terrible arriviste, Patrick replies he never had any intention of making his speech and feelings lucrative. That is such a slap in the face for Putiphar’s life credo...she’s kind of stunned that someone can think in ways so archaic (perhaps embodying what Borel mentioned above as Chivalry, Patrick is Quixotic) but more importantly, so radically disinterested, he wishes to transit the world speaking his mind and being true to who he is at all times. Putiphar changes the subject -because the conversation is turning too serious, and she has other projects in mind- and asks Patrick for a song from his land (Pat replies with a biblical citation) finally accepts to sing for her but he is afraid she won’t be able to appreciate it as Pompadour’s taste is too accustomed to Opera. In return Patrick asks her to finish her mandolin song (about Isis choosing between an blond or a brown haired man) When she finishes, she expresses the song couldn't be anymore perfect to which Pat, incapable of flattery at the present time,  replies the song is “bland, mannered”, has “rather silly lyrics”(So Pomps is like, well if your taste is so refined, show me the best song from the best poet from your country, after telling him how if someone heard him his candid opinions would worsen matters for him -love of the arts in court and in Pompadour’s worldview is nothing more than political posturing and statements, you have to like what is in, and that’s that) Pompadour starts flirting more aggressively with Patrick, who jokingly refuses her. She starts writhing sexily, showing her legs and remarking on how hot she is, even while wearing a very light robe. Patrick' is's attitude is cold, but his eyes betray him and Putiphar notices it. Patrick is in a very enlightenment man way, having a struggle within him between passion and reason, appetite and duty. His senses responded to her invitations, yet his mind begged him to refuse them. (it’s an interesting change from their first meeting, where Patrick seemed to be implied to be giving her more than just a few kisses in her hands) Patrick is also thinking of Pompadour’s body in a patriarchal sexist way, he recovers his wits when remembering, not only Deborah, but Deborah as someone who was a virgin before him, Deborah as the standard of Virginity, Pompadour’s body is beautiful and enticing, but when he remembers that perhaps there wasn’t a single virgin spot in it for him to pose his lips, an iron curtain fell between him and her and only then he thought of Deborah, one who was only his. Gross, etc.
Yet Patrick is afraid he’ll succumb so he hilariously gets up and starts looking at Putiphar’s paintings and boiseries. She calls out from the sacrificial altar, begging him to return claiming he owes her an irish song. So Patrick returns and plays what seems like the longest, least sexy irish balad he could think of. Yet Putiphar is in ecstasy while listening, looks at him both like a mother and a lover proud of her choice. When the song is (finally) over Pompadour straight up poses Patrick’s hands on her heaving breasts. (in a quasi “frenetic” way)(since the chapter touched the arts in a romantic/classicist way, the word frenetic seems loaded) Pompadour cannot praise him in any better way than telling him he sounds like a neapolitan. Patrick of course corrects her telling her that the Irish have always been great at song. She insults the English language thinking that would please him, she does this shrewdly, since “all loves are brothers and that a soul which trembles with enthusiasm is usually an easy ship to catch.” (and Borel takes the chance to praise Gaelic -and Spanish comparing the sonorities of the two languages as majestic- and to complain about how English is advancing in Ireland while Gaelic declines) She asks Patrick to translate his song, is it a love song? She coyly asks? Is it about a cold lover who disdains an unrequited woman?
Is Putiphar right? Is Pat such an easy prey? Will he bite the bait? Find out.... soon XD
( @sainteverge @counterwiddershins )
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infernia-inferno · 8 months
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One thing that I've noticed recently that's been pissing me off is when people who try to make a part or feature announced for a game before it's finished
I'm talking the "I made Minecraft tales and trails update in a week" shit, the fanmade deltarune chapters that pass themselves off as "Chapter 3" or whatever and the FNF mods of weeks that were leaked or announced
Admittedly the first one in that list doesn't piss me off that much because usually it's just an excuse to speculate on new features and at least the ones I like watching are usually "here's this update but I horribly bastardized it" which I genuinely love
But like
Straight up just making content devs have announced? No parody, no speculation, no nothing?
It rubs me the wrong way
Like, The deltarune example
Imma be honest I'm outside the loop of the fanmade chapters and shit, But I've seen certain characters that advertise themselves as bosses or characters of certain chapters, and I'm dead ass sure they're not the bosses of said chapters, unless there's some really weird aspect of this I'm missing. I think I've seen fangames or fanmade chapters. Toby is hard at work making his game and that's not the character of the chapter. If you're making a fanmade character for a fanmade chapter, or several, then make that clear. Don't just say it's like, chapter 3 or chapter 4 or something. That is something actively in development, and making a fanmade version of it that ends up being completely different is likely going to end up confusing a bunch of people
Now admittedly I might've got some things wrong with that, because again I haven't been paying attention much to that side of the fandom
But the final example pisses me off the most, or at least it did back when I still played it. People making mods of Friday night funkin of announced weeks or announced characters. Like, yeah fanmade stuff is cool, but when you're just straight up taking leaked game assets and creating the week before the devs have time to make it, then that probably feels like a kick in the stomach to the devs because they wanted to make their version as good at it could be before they released it, but you had to go make a version of it regardless of its quality. They're making a whole ass game with whole ass animations and everything, cut them some slack for taking so long to get it right. They shouldn't be punished for taking their time to make their game the best thing it can be.
A lot of the things I said in each of these apply to each other, I'm just listing my scattershot examples
I myself am an aspiring game dev who would sure as hell be pissed off if someone made a fan version of the story I was trying to tell and passed it off as what happens next like in my deltarune example
I'm not talking what ifs or anything by the way, I'm just talking straight up advertising it as what's next
Fan projects are cool but make it clear it's separate or it's own continuity or parody or whatever
Don't call it the next part or just outright make the next part from what's been announced
It's kinda scummy
Also to be clear, this isn't "fan content bad" this is "fan content that tries to make something before the original creator can is bad"
I hope I got my point across to some extent here
You could probably make a similar argument about people trying to compose the rest of a song after hearing a small teaser of it, but that's not my field. If you are a composer though I'm curious how you feel about that. Probably some other similar fields like that as well, like that dude who used an AI to finish someone's picture before they themselves were done with it, although not sure if that's even remotely comparable because that is just unarguably a dick move
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Ichika's song: All You Try to Do
I don't know why, but when I was listening to my favorite song from Six the Musical, "All You Wanna Do", for some reason I can imagine one of my Diabolik Lovers ocs, Ichika, singing this song, but with different lyrics. So I thought, "why the hell not, might as well make a parody song to this.".
I actually have a lot of fun making the lyrics that fits Ichika in this song, I know that some of the words probably don't rhyme, but it's honestly the best I got. So, this is Ichika's song: All You Try to Do. It's her singing about how the men in her life tried to take sexual advantage over her before meeting her husband Karlheinz and her transformation into a vampire.
Here's the actual song to try to follow along the melody to understand where the lyrics I wrote would be, if that makes sense.
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And this is the Sing along version if you want to try to sing along this parody song without the main singer.
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And if you guys wanna do a cover of this song, then go for it as long as you credit me for the lyrics I made, your choice if you wanna do it or not.
With that out of the way, I hope you all like my pathetic attempt of making this parody song for one of my Diabolik Lovers ocs!
Enjoy!
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Sakamaki and Mukami brothers:
All you try to do
All you try to do, baby
"I'm just far too modest, not a ten, I'm more of a three."
Sakamaki and Mukami brothers:
All you try to do
All you try to do, baby
"And even as a child, I made the boys go wild."
Sakamaki and Mukami brothers:
All you try to do
All you try to do, baby
"Take my first music teacher, all those centuries ago,"
Ichika:
I was young, it's true, but back then I knew
The only thing you try to do is *mwah* ahh
Broad, dark, sexy he was
Taught me all about dynamics
He was twenty-three
And I was thirteen, going on thirty
We spent hours on how to sing
Playin' the violin that I would bring
He tried to get me alone every time
But it never even worked back during his prime
"Tell me what you need"
"What you want, you don't need to plead"
"Cause I feel the chemistry"
"Like I get you and you get me"
And he thought this was it
He acts like he cares, it feels legit
"We have a connection"
I knew this guy was lying to me, 'cause
All you try to do
All you try to do, babe, is
Touch me, love me
Can't get enoughsie
All you try to do
All you try to do, babe, is
Please me, squeeze me
Birds and the bees me
Run your fingers through my hair
Tell me I'm the fairest of the fair
Playtime's over
The only thing you try to do is *mwah* ahh
"And then there was another guy who only liked me for my looks."
Ichika:
Serious, stern, and slow
Gets what he wants but I won't give in
Passion in all that he touches
The sexy secretary to a powerful duchess
Helped him in his office, had a duty to fulfill
He even wanted me to use his favorite quill
But I brought my own to write with, I was so tired
Still, I came back the next day as he required
You say "I'm all you need"
"All you want, you don't need to plead"
"Cause I feel the chemistry"
"Like I get you and you get me"
And he thought this was it
He acts like he cares, it looks legit
"We have a real connection"
I knew this guy was lying to me too, 'cause
All you try to do
All you try to do, babe, is
Touch me, love me
Can't get enoughsie
All you try to do
All you try to do, babe, is
Please me, squeeze me
Birds and the bees me
You can't wait a second more
To try to get me on the floor
Sakamaki brothers:
Playtime's over
Ichika:
The only thing you try to do is *mwah* ahh
"Yeah, it didn't work out for him. And just as I thought I was done with them; you can already guess who I met."
Ichika:
Tall, large, Karlheinz
One of the powerful Lords in Ancient Japan
A handsome fellow that man is
Although you wouldn't know it from the look of his fangs
Came to my village one spring afternoon
While I was working at the flower shop
Or the bakery during June
Even when I'm not at work, he would still come by
And he would visit me in either during day or night
You say "I'm what you need"
"All you want", but I disagreed
This is the place for me
I thought I was done with men like him
But I found out what he really is
I froze in fear as he calls me "love"
He says "we have this connection"
I knew I can't say no to the vampire king, 'cause
All you try to do
All you try to do, babe, is
Touch me, love me
Can't get enoughsie
All you try to do
All you try to do, babe, is
Seize me, squeeze me
Birds and the bees me
There's no time for when or how
Cause you just want me for yourself
Mukami brothers:
Playtime's over
Ichika:
The only thing you try to do is *mwah* ahh
"So we got married. Woo."
Ichika:
With Karlheinz, it isn't easy
While he's being sweet, his first wife's being sleazy
Except for all his children
They're really nice boys, just so innocent
The royal life isn't what I planned
But my sons are there to lend a helping hand
So sweet, makes sure that I'm okay
And we hang out whenever I have time for them
These guys, finally
Is all I want, the family I need
Just friends, no chemistry
I get them and they get me
And there's nothing more to it
That's when Richter came in
And ruined everything
He says "we have a connection"
I knew this time's no different
Does he think that he'd be different?
Cause it's never, ever, different, 'cause
All you try to do
All you try to do, babe, is
Touch me, when will enough be enoughsie?
All you try to do
All you try to do, babe, is
Squeeze me, don't care if you don't please me
Bite my lip and pull my hair
As you tell me I'm the fairest of the fair
Sakamaki brothers:
Playtime's over
Mukami brothers:
Playtime's over
Ichika, Sakamaki and Mukami brothers:
Playtime's over
Ichika:
The only thing
The only thing
The only thing you try to do is *mwah* ahh
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I Watched the Animaniacs Reboot and I LOVE IT
When I first heard about it a few years ago, I was on the fence, thinking there was no way they’d be able to replicate the clever humor, how it wouldn’t be the same, etc. Then, after seeing a couple of clips on YouTube and liking what I saw, I borrowed the Season 1 and 2 DVDs from the library and gave it a go. 
It. Was. PHENOMENAL. 
Surpassed my expectations and left me eager for Season 3, which I believe is happening this year (which means I likely won’t be able to see it until next year since I don’t want a Hulu subscription). In a time when I’ve been feeling really depressed, this show made me laugh and cheered me up more than anything else has. 
Here are all the reasons why the reboot succeeds and is well worth your time: 
1. The original voice cast is back. Rob Paulsen, Tress MacNeille, Jess Harnell, and Maurice LaMarche are all reprising their roles, and you can really tell how much they love their characters. It bleeds into every sketch. 
2. Despite being marketed as a family show for kids, this version of Animaniacs is clearly aimed at an older audience, mostly millennials like me who enjoyed it as kids and are grown up. There’s some slapstick for the young ones, but most of the jokes are wordplay, parodies, political/cultural satire, and barely-disguised sex jokes. I really dug it, and enjoy that kind of thing more than I do in the original because I actually understand it. I was so young in the 90′s that some of the bits about celebrities and pop culture went over my head and still aren’t all that clear to me, whereas now I understand everything. 
3. Instead of having 15 different characters like the original, only the Warners and Pinky and the Brain feature in the reboot. This was, in my opinion, the best decision they could have made. With the exception of Slappy Squirrel, I really didn’t care for any of the other characters. They were boring, void of any personality beyond one or two basic traits, and just didn’t really add much. Tightening the focus to the best-loved of them all makes the writing much better since the creators aren’t spread too thin. 
4. The reboot clearly had a much bigger budget than the original, which means the animation is more consistently good. Some of the older episodes look really dated and have mistakes in them, while the newer ones are well-drawn, more colorful, and just nicer to look at. This isn’t the original’s fault; it was made in an era where television wasn’t as respectable an art form and they didn’t have a built-in audience like the reboot does. But it’s still definitely a point in the new version’s favor. 
5. The humor for the reboot has clearly been updated for the current social climate. One thing I didn’t care for in the original was how Yakko and Wakko would throw themselves all over any woman of childbearing age, and Dot did pretty much the same for any man while saying “Boys! Go fig.” This doesn’t happen in the reboot. Hello Nurse is gone, Warner Bros. has a woman CEO who Yakko and Wakko don’t flirt with, and Dot has more of a personality outside of simply being “the girl” or “the cute one.” There’s even a bit in the revamped theme song where they sing, “Gender-balanced, pronoun-neutral, and ethnically diverse!” And yes, that does feel a bit like pandering, but still. I like it. 
6. FUCKING PINKY AND THE BRAIN. Whoever is writing them knows what they’re doing because just about every episode with those gay mice is pure gold. And speaking of gay mice, Season 2 really dials up the gay subtext between the characters. Rob Paulsen and Maurice LaMarche have fully admitted there is love between the two and that they play them as kind of an elderly gay couple, and this dynamic is so delightful to watch. Season 1 is more similar to the original, but Season 2...man, they really threw the Brinky shippers a bone with Season 2. Brain is far less physically abusive with more cutesy facial expressions, there’s more hugging, and even a few episodes dedicated to showing how much they care about each other. For most of the season, the world domination plot takes a backseat to whatever is going on between them, and I just. Love it so much. The Christmas special of their ‘90s spinoff, the one where Brain cries over Pinky’s love for him in a letter to Santa, is the episode that won them the Emmy, and I think the writers learned from this and wisely decided to do more in that vein.
The fact that this is being made in the 2020s and not the 1990s means they can really go hard on the gay, and the result is that I actually enjoyed the mice even more than the Warners. There’s a super touching and emotional scene where you’re led to believe that Pinky has died, and Brain has tears in his eyes about it. Now, the audience knows Pinky can’t be dead because it isn’t that kind of show. Animaniacs is a silly cartoon full of satirical sketches, not the kind of media where characters get killed. So I knew Pinky was going to spring back to life at any second (which is of course what happens), but the important thing here was that Brain didn’t know that. He genuinely believed Pinky had died, and the tears in his eyes tugged at my heartstrings in a way I hadn’t felt in a long time. Then he does something I could not believe the creators were willing to have him do: 
He kisses his hand and then caresses Pinky’s face with it in a loving gesture. 
I about melted from sheer emotion at that scene. Not since Basil and Dawson have I had so many feels over cartoon gay mice.
There was a similar bit in Wakko’s Wish where we’re meant to think Dot is dead, only for her to snap back to life a minute later. That one didn’t work nearly as well because we’re told that Yakko knew she was acting the whole time and was only pretending to cry over her. The result here is that you feel cheated and manipulated because you were led to believe that Yakko was in emotional distress when he wasn’t. They were smart enough to avoid that with Pinky and the Brain by having Brain actually believe Pinky was dead, so the emotion feels genuine and sincere. They’re able to have moments like these that the Warners really can’t, so I think the mice have more potential. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if we got a reboot of their spinoff as well. They’re just so damn good together. 
All of this is not to say that the reboot is perfect. There are some sketches that are duds, a few god-awful ideas that don’t work like those stupid alien and gnome bits, and way too many fat jokes for comfort. Plus the songs aren’t quite as catchy and memorable as they were in the 90′s, though there are a few good ones.
But even with all of that said...anyone who loved Animaniacs should really give the reboot a chance. It kept what was good and scrapped what was bad from the original, and if they can keep that up in Season 3, I’ll be very happy.
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My thoughts on the first Long-Running Panel Show Friday of 2023.
Would I Lie to You: Obviously, the most important thing about this episode is I went 4-1 in guessing the answers before they were announced, which is a strong start to a new season. The only one I got wrong is the This Is My round... sorry I didn’t guess that Steve Pemberton and Reece Shearsmith play pranks on each other by mimicking autoerotic asphyxiation and urinating in offices.
Anyway, the episode was good. I’m impressed that I don’t feel like this one’s sagged even into its sixteenth season; David and Lee both still appear to be enjoying themselves. They both ran out of stories years ago, but not out of enthusiasm. Also, why is this the first time I’ve ever heard someone on a panel show tell the audience that if anyone on the other team is your friend, get some new friends? That seems like the sort of thing people should be saying all time.
QI: That was a good time. Not a standout episode, but a solid one. Lou Saunders made me laugh almost every time she opened her mouth. Classic play from Alan Davies, getting excited about blue whales and talking shit about Top Gear. He and Ross Noble play off each other well. And I think Rose Matafeo made me laugh literally every time she opened her mouth. I love her style on panel shows, of sort of sitting back (often literally leaning backward a bit) and sounding vaguely apologetic for interrupting every time she interjects, and it’s always funny.
The News Quiz: “We are barely a week into 2024, and I have already broken my two New Year’s resolutions: not to add one to all numbers.” – Andy Zaltzman
I mean, what more can we ask for from a radio panel show than that as the first line? That was so entertaining that I barely noticed anything else that happened. Chris McCausland and Lucy Porter are always good on this show, and they both came well prepared for this one. Had quite a bit of pre-written material on very recent stuff, I guess they were busy over Christmas. And of all the journalists they cycle through on this show, Samira Ahmed has become one of my favourites.
Andy Zaltzman referring to Rishi Sunak as “the first Prime Minister of 2023″ was good too. He had a number of nice lines. I love the little ways he commits to bits; anyone else would have dropped the thing about not giving out points after the first couple of times. I’ll be honest, it was just nice to hear from him. Missed you, Andy. Glad you’re back for another year.
8 Out of 10 Cats Does Countdown: You know what? After I’ve made two posts in the last few weeks about how this show’s gone stale and they need to respectfully lay it to rest, I thought this episode was good. It wasn’t the lineup I saw announced earlier, and I was immediately annoyed when I saw Jonathan Ross, but actually, it worked well. My favourite part of the episode was Ahir Shah, in his Catsdown debut. He was some of the things that used to make it so much fun to watch Jon Richardson on this show - a genuine Countdown fan who was excited to be there and got really into trying to do well. He paired nicely with Roisin, who’s always good on this show (I mean, bad at the actual puzzles, but her type of humour fits well with the format). Even Jonathan Ross, whom I normally dislike, was funny a few times. And I thought Joe Wilkinson was on good form; he made me laugh several times.
I also liked the stand-in for Rachel Riley. I’d be very happy to have her on all the time instead of Rachel. The dictionary corner guest annoyed me at the beginning - I tend to cringe at too much of a millennial/gen Z self-parody schtick - by the end she’d completely won me around and I though she was fantastic.
I hate saying that I think this episode was so good because Jon Richardson wasn’t there, as my favourite versions of Jon Richardson are pretty much my favourite comedy out there. I absolutely love Jon Richardson, when he’s good. He and Sean Lock had something perfect going for a while, on this and 8 Out of 10 Cats. Channel 4 struck gold with that chemistry, and they were right to get as much mileage as possible out of it. But that’s gone now.
Jon had something very good going before Sean Lock too, of course, the radio show with Russell Howard being much, much better than something like that had any right to be. So one of his partnerships ended in the most dramatic breakup of the twenty-first century, and one ended in a premature death. No wonder he’s tired. Anyway, I think Jon needs to find a new challenge if he’s going to be as entertaining as he used to be again. Maybe if he got paired with Ahir Shah sometime it would bring some of the spark back, get him competitive about something.
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It's Not the Years It's the Mileage: An Indiana Jones Retrospective: Temple of Doom (Commission for WeirdKev27)
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Hello all you happy archeologists! We're back again cracking the bullwhip for part two of Not the Years it's the Mileage, my look at all 5 Indy films, the first four of which I haven't seen in years.
Unlike Raiders which I at least remembered pretty well from seeing it a few years ago, Doom was more of a fuzzy memory. As a kid I maybe saw it once.. and was so terrified of it I didn't go back. As such many of it's best moments I mostly know from Family Guy back in it's prime
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Or that Clerks episode that somehow dovetailed parodies of the bad news bears and the last starfighter into a third act temple of doom montage. Outside of Kahli Mah, which naturally BOTH referenced (I love the mola ram stand in in the clerks version just… casually popping the heart back in when Jay ruins it) I really didn't now much about this one other than it got really dark, scared a lot of children for life like it did for me, and was easily the most divisive entry of the franchise till they involved Actual Cannibal That Guy What Was in Holes. I went into this one with an open heart though hoping it wouldn't get plucked straight out for Kali. A lot of it is due to this image
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But I genuinely wanted to see if the film was disliked because it was diffrent and may of put people off or if it was really a hot mess that deserved it's derision from some. Let's find out under the cut
A Long Way to Dehli
As I detailed last time, Raiders had a bit of an uphill battle to get made. But with raiders being one of the most successful films ever… the production here was more…
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Our directors could do whatever the hell they want… so the issue to start was more what the hell DID they want? While George Lucas had sold Stephen on a trilogy he promised he had planned out… he had to come clean afterwords he only really had the one adventure in mind. He wanted to do more, they just had to figure out what that was.
Most of the ideas floated around were pretty awesome: There was a sweeping adventure involving Son Wu-Kong's legend in China that involved Indy motorcycling across the great wall, which Chinese Authorities refused to greenlight, a ghost story in a scotish style scrooge mcduck style nixed for being too similar to poltergeist and most epically and just begging for a disney+ series INDY IN THE VALLEY OF THE DINOSAURS. I'd also like to point to that last one for people who thought the aliens thing was George and Stevie using aliens was a giant stretch. Or this movie as they settled on black magic cult based on the film Gunga Din, which I know next to nothing about.
Once they had the theme settled they went to Laurence Kasdan again to write the script. HIs response to following up the biggest success in his career?
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Yeah Kasdan HATED the idea completely, calling it gross, too dark and feeling Speilberg and Lucas were in a very dark place. The latter wasn't wrong: Lucas was going thorugh a divorce, Speilberg a messy breakup, and Lucas would flat out admit later that his messy divorce was part of why the film turned out the way it did. So instead of taking the advice of someone who helped them sort out how messy their first pitch for Raiders was… they promptly went to William Hyuck and Gloria Katz, who wrote one of Lucas' other previous smash hits, American Graffiti
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… and would go on to write Howard the Duck
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They basically gave the boys exactly what they wanted and they were off to the races. The only other major hurtle was that India refused to let them film there unless they let the goverment consult citing inacurate depcitions of the culture and heroic depcitions of the british colonizers who occupied the country for far too long. Once again instead of listening to common sense.. they ignored the voices loudly telling them
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And pressed on. And it seemed to work out. Despite all the naysaying, when the film actually got out… it was a massive hit, being the global #1 and domestic #3 behind
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and Ghostbusters, so not shabby at all. It was also a critical darling with Pauline Kael, who hated the last film, loving this one and Roger Ebert shockingly loving it. I'm shocked more because he really REALLY fucking hated horror and with the darker and more violent tone of this film, I didn't expect him to be a fan. It's weird what got through to him I swear.
It also had a giant impact on cinema… in that it was, along with gremlins, one of the straws that broke the mpaa's back and led to the creation of PG-13. Yeah to my shock when I found out as a teen this wasn't always a thing: PG used to cover more films. Granted the MPAA's ratings can be a bit wonky for a variety of reasons we don't have time to get into but introducing something between FOR THE SHORTYS and SEX AND VIOLENCE O'CLOCK MOTHERFUCKER was entirely necessary.
So really while i'm sure there are people who didn't like TOD on sight, the backlash sorta creeped in with time and despite a seemingly warm audience reception… the creators have gone on record as NOT liking it. Speilberg feels the only good thing to come out of it was his marriage to Kate Capshaw and Lucas, like I said, was in a very dark place. Neither really seem FOND of the film and it feels less like two creators bowing to public opinion and two simply realizing that while the film pleased crowds and displeased the MPAA, it was
A Hot Mess of Monkey Brains
If nothing else, Temple helped me come up with a new term: A Carte Blanche Sequel. As with this franchise a creator can often have an uphill battle with their first work, trying to get it made, get executives not to fuck it up, etc. But if all goes right, the work is a success as it should be and thus the creator is given more opportunities, and this time execs ease up a tad as they assume the person knows what their doing. And Ideally this IS how creative works should work and sometimes does work out : for instance Jonathan Hickman at marvel started small.. but once he did bigger works like his runs on avengers, fantastic four and x-men, they were were all sweeping well thought out epics with neat changes to the status quo that were warmly welcomed by the fans. But at the same time just in the same office you find guys like Dan Slott or (formerly) Brian Micheal Bendis who USED to write great works, but no have given up carring both what the people actually reading them want, what's in continuity or even what people actually care about because they made some good works once and are riding that shit for life. It's a very hard tightrope to walk: even when it should've been a slam dunk like Gilmore Girls year in the life it can still end up falling into pitfalls the creator just didn't realize were there and no one had enough courage to tell them no. And that's what Temple of Doom Falls into for me. Like Year in the LIfe it's not TERRIBLE, there's good parts to it.. but it's messy and not exactly well planned. There are parts that are downright awful and never should've gotten off the board. It's what happens when you have all the power, but none of the responsibility.
The result is a score of problems with some good bits floating in the middle. THe first is that the film is way too damn fast paced. It was apparently even WORSE originally with Speilberg adding in matte painting shots in post to help slow it down. While Raiders also had a fast pace it had plenty of calmer talkier moments: The beauitful temple opening gave way to Indy teaching a class and setting up this adventure. Indy and Marion escaping Egypt gave way to the two reconciling on a boat. and the utterly horrifying finale gives way to a calm wrap up and the warehouse finale. Raiders got that you need to have slower moments to build the characters to make you care when their plunked in the set pieces. Doom by contrast has even it's talking pieces be bit productions: our heroes have a meal of over the top gross shit while getting exposition, Indy talks not to a fleshed out real feeling person but a stereotypical quest villager who needs his help because the Thuggee stole his stone, even Indy's moment with his love interest is over the top slap slap kiss kiss. There's not a lot of time to rest for five minutes, which is fine when the tension is up but makes for a film that while shorter feels like less of note happened.
Indy also feels diminished. While I do get why this film is set before Raiders, so they wouldn't have to use nazi's once again, the problem is doing so means Indy can't EVOLVE. Part of what made the first film so fascinating was seeing this weatherbeaten guy evolve, see him let his walls down, let marion in and grow as a person. I honesetly wish they'd went with the earlier pitch, having it set back with Abner Ravenwood and Marion , find out what happened during said fallout. Instead it's just we find Indy doing what he did: selling artifacts, doing the right thing begrudgingly and romancing the nearest lady. We still get good character stuff: Indy only needs one stone for his quest, to help an ailing villiage that see sit as sacred.. but goes after the others not out of arrogance or greed, but to make the find of a lifetime. There's a bit of ego, but it's clear it's just as much having two of these to display to the world, taking them to a museum not to horde or culturally steal but to show off. Even when left iwth just one.. he give sit back to the village, feeling their right to it was more important, which serves as a ncie contrast to later when stealing one just to make a buck is just a regular thing for him.
My faviorite though that dosen't involve short round: Indy is trying to sneak past.. but sees the children of the villiage he's aiding in slavery to the thugee and one being beat and purpsuflly distracts the guard. He knows he'll be captured.. but he also knows there's no other option that he can live with.
The film just feels a lot less soulful.. it's why quiet moments in a film MATTER: you sometimes need just a second. Even Avengers Infinity War, a film with an absolutely breakneak pace.. still has small moments to plan. Even if our heroes don't really get a break from start to finish, there are moments for them to regroup and plan for a second before the next attack on Thanos or more character driven moments that help us care about both sides: We get Thanos waxing on WHY he settled on his genocidal nightmare of a plan, his killing of gamora to get the soul stone, and for our heroes we get moments to plan and strategize or moments of levity. While still a fight the fight with the guardians and Iron Man's Patchwork Avengers is played almost entirely for laughs, and we get a nice moment of character interaction as Tony trying to actually make a plan is interuptted with Star Lord butting in like a 12 year old. IT's the character that makes a film and in this one while Indy and Short Round do their best there jus tisn't a ton.
Credit where it's due: Short Round is awesome. Is he a perfectly made character? No. Lucas and Speilberg's accidental prejudice leaks in and he shouts every line.. but he's also a compitent , smartass, someone who can trade barbs with Indy easily, and was resourceful: when captured and ensalve dhis response is to simply break his bonds. When faced with a brainwashed indy his resolve is to break it and free his friend. He's a kid who dosen't give up, pulls his weight and proves invluable to the quest. It's mind boggling he never came back for crusade and we never found out what happened to him and hopefully with his actor now being a friggin oscar winner and rightful public darling, we might get a spinoff filling that out. He may not be in dial of destiny, but Short Round is in my heart.
Ini more the galbladder reigion.. is willie. Oh my Kali…. Willie. If you needed a giant massive red flag with big bold letters on it screaming "THESE MEN JUST WENT THROUGH SOME ROUGH BREAKUPS" this was it. Marion Ravenwood was a fairly fleshed out , self reliant woman who didn't take indy's shit, backed him up when she could. She did get kidnapped a silver age lois lane amount, but she was still likeable and brought out the best in our hero Willie.. is just obnoxious. I get what they were going for on some level: they wanted to have Indy's new love intrest be a constrast, being less self reliant and more tradionally feminine, but still compitent in her own way. She isn't too terrible at first: her shrill shouting is there, but she's compitent in the opening singing an utterly bizzare but captivating version of anything goes in what's bound to be the weridest intro in these films. I'm calling it now despite knowing 4 has a nuke, and not having a single idea how Dial of Destiny will open. But just hard cutting to a chinese nightclub rendition of anything goes that goes in and out of english for no reason…
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It's oddly delightful. And willie shows her prowess: She weasels her way into the meeting, and once chaos breaks out and Indy Friend We Just Met dies , she tries to sneak the diamond and has the good sense to steal the antidote to the poison you just drank. Granted it leads to the
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Of Indy reaching in there to grab it later, but points for trying to find some way to surivive this. It's just after this.. she spends most of the runtime complaning loudly about everything. It's a LITTLE understandable as she didn't ask for this adventure.. but she also stole the serum Indy needed to LIVE to save herself, and he took her with him and short round out of the country simply because otherwise she'd likely be shot by these guys on principal and takes her with him largely because she's safter with him than alone… mostly because she also wants to try and wander off on her own at about 80 points and predictably nearly dies. He has no real opportunity to ditch her somewhere safe as given her trying to ungreatfully turn around more food than most of the people of the village they first ge tto see in a week indicates she'd just try and run off once things got rough and wind up in danger, and once they get to an actual city, it's ran by the thuggee cult, so he can't exactly leave her unsuprvised. Indy, even if he's an ass about it is doing the right thing and she just won't shut up or get that maybe a hot shower just isn't something you can get. It's no wonder her own actress hates the character: She's an utter nightmare of a character. You can have someone whose both very touchy about their apperance and badass. See Daphne in most post -what's new scooby doo works, Rarity from Friendship is Magic, Star Butterfly, or Emma Frost from the X-Men. Being feminine dosen't mean you can't kick ass and it's clear Speilberg and Lucas hadn't realized that. It results in Willie dragging the film down and me just.. not carring about her and indy. He's a dick to her and she screeches every other line. No one wants this to happen. As for our antagonists their not terrible.. but they lack the development Beloq got. Mola Ram at least has Toht's intimdation factor and of course KAHLI MA, he's not terrible and is one of the most homaged parts of this fiml for a reason. Amrish Puri does a fantastic job. But there was a clear opportunity to do more with these guys: Both Ram and his minion Chatter Lal bring up the British occupatoin of India. Ram could easily be seen as a magneto or toffee type: a man whose doing evil shit (in this caase slavery) but to try and repel the colonizers and take his country back. It also makes bringing the Thuggee back make perfect sense: he's taking something from India's past to try and give it back to it's people. The problem is despite having a genuine bone to pick with the british.. their portrayed as WRONG. That the british occupation ain't no thang, those are the good guys, while the people who, even if their using absolutley terrible methods and still aren't good people, are sene as mustache twirling villians for it. I get what Lucas and Speilberg are going for, that their lying for their own ends.. but it only works if that's made clear. Instead for all we know Ram really does think the evil he's doing is the only way to break even against an occupting force. Which brings us both to our final section.. and the part of the film that's the most aggrviating Now With 80% more racisim!
Yeahhh. While Raiders racisim was bad and should feel bad I at least got the sense George and Steven didn't know any better and were simply going off old pulp cliches they hadn't realized were racist, being white men in power in the 1980s. It didn't make things OKAY, but you could say "it was a diffrent time" and at least enjoy the other parts of the film, and if you can't it's totally fair.
With Temple of Doom.. it's way harder to wince at and move on as wingus and dingus' accidental racisim is , instead of kinda off to the side and in the margins of the story after the opening… at the center of the godamn plot. It's their voodoo hoodoo, their story where no matter the talent the racisim at the center just makes it very hard to sit through a good chunk of it. Even not knowing Indian culture well, I still don't, I could tell something was.. off about the way it was presented even before looking up the speitcis like how shanrkah stones are more phallic symbols of shiva that are neat to have around more than worshipped objects, how Kali worshipppers don't act like this, or how the Thugee were gone decades ago. It all came off less as a historical version of india and more what four white people who bothered to do not one iota of research outside of rewatching Gunga Din had. And unlike last time where I could at least give them the wiggle room tha tno one told them here Kasdan (whose own script to raidres had some iffy elements), and the GOVERMENT OF INDIA ITSELF told them this was bad please change it and they did not listen. I feel way more comfortable laying into them here when it's clear they could've done their work. Hell Carl Barks, one of Stephen's clear inspirations for this series, for all his own racisim of his time, at least did through research of places. Here it just felt like they just thought "Eh india will work since we can't do china" and adapted the film from there. The result is a film that's flavor is entirely "white savior x-treme blast". The village our heroes end up in fall heavily into
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Basically relying on an astral savior instea dof thinking of a plan to save the kids that dosen't give their hand besides "throw the first white guy we find at it and hope it works. " This one at least was common at the time and while that STILL dosen't make it okay, I can at least see how this slipped through Everything else though? Hoo boy. So as I mentioned the villians both speak out against the colonialism of Britan. The evil eil guy who works for Mola Ram points out how britian checks in like their children who need to be guided. That's a bad thing.. but since i'ts coming out of the obvious villain it instead comes off like the film agrees, especially since the british army.. are seen as GOOD GUYS. And I don't know a ton about the occupation of india but I looke dup enough to know it was brutal, bloood soaked and you know horrible, something even without google they could've done and India outright listed in their issues with the script. There is ZERO reason to involve these guys. Sure Indy needs a calvary later.. but just have him see an old friend at the palace who happens to know some guriellas or something. bam. Problem solved. Why , of all things, did you choose an occupying force to be your big damn heroes at the end? Instead of a triumphant moment.. it's a bunch of colonliast assholes wiping out wave after wave of "savages" who the film TREATS as such. It's fucking disgusting now, it shoudl've been then and it's easily one of the things that just.. ruined the film for me. We also of course have to talk about the gross dinner scene. With that one.. I think the scene is bad and dumb on my own merits, but also misguided> The intent was clearly to have the villians purposfully prey on western racisim to try and get indy and captain racsiim to leave. The problem is A) your having the bad guys do it and B) it's not expressed clearly enough to come off as that insteead of them genuinely thinking that. Several people were genuinly ignorant enough to think this was actual indian cuisine which for the record is vegetarian for the most part and what isn't isn't live animals. WHat i'ms aying is MAYBE don't portray country's food via a "what grosses us out the most " contest like your 12. Which is genuinely how the writers deecided what to add. I wish I was joking. The result is a film that is just. .hard to watch at times. I wanted to like it: I went in trying to give it a chacne.. but the heavy racisim, sloppy plot, lack of a character arc and everything just left a bad taste in my mouth. Ironically the one thing I thought might be a deal breaker, the dark tone… was actually good. I liked that it went a bit darker, did something diffrent. I don't like a LOT of the diffrences, but out of all the films problems being dark and gloomy isn't one of them. It' sproblem is two guys with a lot of talent but not a lot of filter go totgether and made whateve rthey wanted, and it turned out a racist hard to follow mess that's fun to look at but gets less and less the more you think about it. I liked Raiders MORE as I wrote about it, found more ot enjoy, found more little crannies.. with this one.. I ended up going from "it's okay" to just… really not liking it at all by the end of this review. It's far from the worst thing i've reviewed and while certainly up there isn't the most racist.. but it is a disapointment that this flim lived down to it's reuptation and i'm hoping last crusade will boost my spirits a bit. On the bright side at least Short Round got an oscar and has a bright future ahead of him.. and hopefully I do too. Thanks for reading.
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🧍‍♀️what fic is begging for your attention right now but you refuse to give it?
Timeless Nonesense. And I might just wind up giving in a bit so that I can get the part of it nagging me out of the way.
It's the story where Barry wakes up in the pilot episode, but with memories from multiple timelines and realities due to how the Speed Force sent him back in time to prevent a future disaster in the Speed Force's personal timeline. It's intended to be a crack fic, at times parodying the show and at times taking the premise seriously.
I've got three story arcs lined up in my head thus far. The first is where Barry wakes up and is very much not the Barry that Eobard was expecting. Despite himself, Eobard comes to trust that this version of Barry really is telling the truth and genuinely wants to be allies with him.
The second arc is set in the future where Eobard is from where Barry proves Eobard is actually Malcolm Thawne's descendant, not Eddie Thawne (reusing an explanation I've used/am using in other places) and convinces him to destroy the Negative Speed Force before it can become a threat to the real Speed Force. It's not what Barry came back in time to do, but not having to worry about the NSF is one less problem to deal with later.
Third arc is when the Eobarry finally starts. They return to the past to start setting up the reputation of the Flash in order to start attracting more Speedsters notice as part of the long game to protect the Speed Force. They take advantage of events Barry knows are coming to plausibly 'pass' on Barry's abilities to Eobard to make it look like Harrison Wells is now a Speedster too.
It's the first arc that's nagging at me. And I do see this as being a really fun series to work on. But of my Eobarry fic ideas, the one with Herobard is the one I like better. So I'm determined to get part 3 done before I start posting this series. (We'll see how that goes, though.)
😨 describe in FULL detail the first fic you wrote (yes I'm talking the wattpad shit we all did it).
Well, if we're talking the first ever fanfic I wrote, not the first I posted, then... I was... ten? maybe? And my parents had just okayed putting the old Windows 3.1 computer in my room as long as I was responsible and didn't stay up late playing The Black Cauldron or the Kings Quest games.
I started writing Star Trek Voyager fanfic pretty much immediately. I don't remember the plot details, but I know it was about Seven of Nine and Captain Janeway because they were my favorites and Seven in particular was just so cool.
TBH, I basically wanted to be Naomi Wildman. (Captain's Assistant and friends with Seven of Nine? Sign me up, please.)
It was not a self-insert or use an OC for the main character - though I did toy around with those later on. I do remember that much. It was something of a bad things happen and the crew reacts to save the day type plot.
Much as I wish I still had the story I was working on back then just for nostalgia reasons, the computer crashed after only a few months and my parents decided it wasn't worth the price to repair. My fanfic was lost and I started using the hall computer for games instead. I was a bit devastated by the loss of my fanfic, so I didn't start over in a notebook and instead tried my hand at an original mystery that was very Nancy Drew and A Wrinkle in Time inspired, though I don't think that made it past the first chapter. It was a few years later when i was... fourteen? that I was introduced to fanfiction.net, however, and my fanfic obsession truly began.
👁 have you ever accidentally foreshadowed something you fully didn't intend to happen?
I'm pretty sure I did that in an old Harry Potter fic I wrote back in high school. It was a Draco/Harry fic that I took down when I got concerned by the idea of my parents looking up my ffnet account and finding it... and it's since been lost entirely. It was a pretty innocent fic, but between some of the nastier comments that had started heading my way (ffnet was going through a wave of people leaving flames, or very rude reviews) and not really knowing how my mom in particular would react to me writing two boys kissing and holding hands... *shrugs* it was easier to just take down the fic entirely.
It was among the first fics I'd ever posted and my first attempt at a long fic. So it's not really surprising that sometimes I'd write things intending to indicate the fic was going in one direction without realizing that it was actually meandering into the weeds in a different direction. The whole thing was a fun learning experience and ffnet had a very critique friendly atmosphere at the time, so getting feedback was helpful in fixing some of the more egregious errors and foreshadowing failures. I do wish I could have finished it, but... I don't regret losing it the way I do the Voyager fic because stopping work on it was my choice. And I think it helps that while Star Trek continues to grow in new directions and promote inclusive narratives, JKR has since gone off the terf deep end. So losing a fanfic based off her writing is more relief than bother at this point.
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Ok, so, rn in making research on albinism for my oc Lis, three vastly different thoughts came into my mind and I'll post about the others in a second but,
I don't know about how well y'all are familiar with the Gacha Life community, or how similar the brazilian community and the gringa one are, but there was this...phenomena during like 2018 where a big trend was making "mistreated daughter" Gacha stories.
-> If you don't know, many ppl use Gacha Life (dress-up doll game) to make lil' stories. They use the function of posing the characters you made in backgrounds and adding speech bubbles to them as a means to take screenshots, edit them, and tell a story
I actually think this trend of stories/mini-movies (that's what we call them if i recall well) was before the Gacha Life ver. even came out. It was back when people were primarily using Gacha verse and Gacha Studio (previous versions of the game from the same company, Lunime). There were very defined storylines and character archetypes that went into each trend, and the most popular at the time (i'm talking about the brazilian community only, idk how it was for the gringos) was one called "A Filha Preferida" (the favorite daughter). The story usually went as following:
It always started at the same point, with a mother having most commonly two babies. They were both girls, and from the moment she saw them, she knew she loved one and despised the other.
The twins would grow up, and the favorite one would be spoiled and loved by her mother and father, and the despised one would have a cinderella-like experience and a childhood of abuse. There would be a quick timeskip after stabilishing these keypoints of both girl's childhoods, and we'd go to their teenage years. From there, the story could take two paths:
The spoiled (favorite) daughter, would grow up into an arrogant, Regina George-parody, popular and bully girl that would make the protagonist's life (the abused sister) the most difficult possible, both at school and at home. The protagonist usually had one girl pal, that could or not be as popular as her sister, but was generally very nice. When the story takes place, the protagonist meets a Boy, maybe a new kid, who'd get all of his classmates' attention right away, and maybe at first the protagonist wouldn't pay mind to him or find his Bad Boy (tipically) personality annoying, but they would later grow into each other, and the Favorite Daughter would try to put an end to their relationship, but the Boy would stay loyal to the protagonist, and they'd end up together. This variant usually ended with the protagonist's abusive parents asking for her forgiveness and she'd usually grant it, the Favorite daughter would face the consequences of her actions in some way, and they family would live happily ever after.
Now, the other variant of the story would go like this from the teenage years: The story could go on as above, or maybe showing in different occasions the abuse the protagonist suffered, and in the end, she'd either gain a bug amount of money (maybe by charity, savings or something else, who knows) or be revealed to be the lost princess of the king and queen and then leave her family behind and live in a safe and warm household with everything provided and loving parents.
The mini-movie was generally titled "The favorite daugther", but some common alternatives were "The hated daughter", "The favorite daughter that loved the hated one", or "The hated daughter who became rich". These last two ones had a slightly different plotline.
Now, the thing that my lilttle research reminded be was the character's visuals? Gacha Life (and specially its previous versions that were at peak on this time, Gacha Studio and Gachaverse) is a pretty limited game, with maybe like a little more variation than the average picrew, and the main characters always followed some of these guidelines:
The favorite daughter was blonde and wore pink
The Boy (love interest) had a very specific kind of asymetric bangs and dark hair
The protagonist would be A. a somewhat emo girl with colorful ends on her black hair or B. albino
Which is like very interesting I think, and in these variants where the protagonist was albino, her mother would hate her instantly because of that. In these versions she'd usually wear blue instead of black and purple. The protagonist also generally never had anything regarding her albinism despiste her looks, which is a little bit concerning.
There was also another mini movie trend in which the protagonist was mandatorily albino, but that's a story for other day, I think.
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Review: The People's Joker (2022)
Just because I left Fort Lauderdale, and with it Popcorn Frights, behind when I moved to Boston last year doesn't mean I have to give up on horror festivals. And just as I managed to sneak in a trip to the Telluride Horror Show amidst my adventures in Utah back in 2022, so too did I find that -- where else? -- Salem, Massachusetts hosted the annual Salem Horror Show in April and May. Tonight was the first night, and they screened one of the festival's token non-horror films in The People's Joker, a queer Batman spoof made without any official approval from DC Comics or Warner Bros. (They originally had a screening of Hocus Pocus planned with Kathy Najimy as a special guest, but Najimy had to cancel at the last minute.) How was it?
The People's Joker (2022)
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Score: 4 out of 5
The People's Joker exists in a place very similar to that enjoyed by Escape from Tomorrow. In both cases, you have independent filmmakers making unlicensed, unauthorized use of American pop iconography, Disney in the case of Escape from Tomorrow and DC Comics in the case of this film, as a way of satirizing and critiquing it with a particular focus on its corporate ownership and its role in the modern economy. Unlike Disney, which permitted the release of Escape from Tomorrow, DC Comics and Warner Bros. actively tried to clamp down on this film, which was ultimately saved by fair use laws protecting parodies like this. And of the two, I'd argue that this film pulls off what it was trying to do a lot better. While both films are elevated by a particular psychedelic edge and punk-rock attitude, Escape from Tomorrow was too incoherent to really stick the landing or even really convey what it was trying to say, while The People's Joker manages to successfully pull off being not only a dark parody of Batman in which the Joker is the hero, but also a hilarious comedy in its own right, a queer coming-out story, a satire of the entertainment industry (especially stand-up and sketch comedy), and a film that manages to get its message across loud and clear. For obvious reasons, I don't expect this to be more than a cult classic, but it's one I enjoyed and do not regret watching.
In this take on Batman's most iconic villain, one that's most obviously based on the movie Joker but draws on many versions of the character (as well as elements of Harley Quinn), the Joker is now a trans woman who leaves her disapproving mother in Smallville, Kansas for Gotham City in the hopes of becoming a comedian like her idol, UCB Live star Ra's al Ghul. There, upon being exposed to the gatekeeping and hypocrisy of the world of mainstream standup comedy, which here serves largely to prop up a corporate-run dystopia even as it still claims the legacy of those who once spoke truth to power, she starts her own underground "anti-comedy" troupe in an abandoned carnival that comes to be comprised of many of Batman's traditional baddies from the comics. (Her trademark gag is inviting people onstage to tell the world their saddest experiences and then huffing Smilex and laughing her ass off at their misery, because after all, this is still the Joker we're talking about.) This eventually puts her on a collision course with Batman himself, who's depicted as not only the jackbooted thug that more cynical deconstructions of superhero comics have framed him as, but also a perverted closet case on top of it. (Let's just say, this film gets a lot of mileage out of all those jokes you've heard about his relationship with his sidekick Robin.)
The film ain't exactly subtle in what it's saying. UCB Live is a clear-cut parody of Saturday Night Live, right down to the fact that Lorne Michaels is a character in the film, and moreover, its initialism is lifted straight from the famed Chicago comedy troupe the Upright Citizens Brigade that played such a major role in the development of standup and sketch comedy in the '90s and '00s, including producing multiple SNL stars. And while the film never names him so directly, you also get the sense that its writer, director, and star Vera Drew really isn't a fan of Joe Rogan or the standup circle he's built around himself, either. The Joker's introduction to UCB Live's casting has her body being scanned and her being deemed a potential comedy superstar because she has a small penis and is therefore mistaken for the kind of insecure man who the industry is built upon. Her comic idol Ra's starred in a Borat-like film whose main joke was making fun of foreigners. The whole reason Batman, an avatar of the elite if ever there was one (being the CEO of Wayne Enterprises and all), comes after her is because she directly criticizes and threatens the ruling class in a way that the corporate, sanitized world of UCB Live merely pretends to. Drew is somebody who clearly has experience with comedy and the people who inhabit it, and is very much writing that experience into the meat of the story, a metaphorical representation of an entertainment industry that, in her view, only cloaks itself in populism and progressive language enough that it can fend off criticism without actually making any meaningful changes.
Much of this is told through a mix of a riotous and raunchy comedy and the Joker's romance with her fellow comic Jason Todd, aka "Mr. J", a trans man who's envisioned here as a mix of Robin and the edgelord Jared Leto version of the Joker from the DC Extended Universe. The gags came flying at a mile a minute, and often had me busting my gut in laughter. The whole cast is game for the material, with Drew making the Joker a compelling anti-hero not just as a comic presence but also as somebody whose journey from a Midwestern girl-trapped-in-a-boy's-body to a flamboyant Clown Princess of Crime was one that I found myself genuinely invested in. Kane Distler as Mr. J was also an interesting presence, somebody whose relationship with the Joker starts promisingly only for him to turn emotionally abusive and self-centered (complete with a "gaslighting" pun that had me cracking up), indicating that, when he transitioned, he wound up embracing the most noxious forms of hypermasculinity. And as for the style of the film, Drew goes for an exaggerated feel that combines live-action filmmaking, highly stylized CGI, what appears to be a mannequin representing Poison Ivy, and very crude animation both 2D and 3D to create a feeling that reminded me of watching Adult Swim or surfing Newgrounds back in the 2000s. There clearly wasn't much of a budget here, so Drew instead leaned on creativity, both her own and the dozens of artists worldwide who each contributed to the film. It was as unique a film to watch as it was an entertaining comedy, one that demonstrated a lot of talent and commitment on the part of everybody involved.
The Bottom Line
There's no way in hell that The People's Joker is ever getting a wide release, but if it plays near you, I highly recommend seeking it out, as a twisted, countercultural sendup of everything from superheroes to mainstream comedy to who gets to call themselves "the counterculture".
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Good Design, Bad Design: Baldidition!
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That's right, I'm doing it again. An idea so nice I'm adapting twice!
This time I'm talking about Baldi's Basics.
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I believe that Baldi's Basics is the apex form of what a Slenderman style game (which is First Person Survival Horror but that's way more broad than calling it a Slenderman-like) should be.
You have a simple premise, you have a map you can eventually master to optimize your routes, you have a series of random events that you have to learn to work around and a little bit of RNG that can either screw over a run or make it a huge success.
In a lot of ways it shares the same values Buckshot Roulette has. A very simple game with a straight forward ethos on how to play it effectively combined with learning how to work around RNG or have it work in your favor.
In the end the game the will only run you a couple hours. You can play it again but not every game is meant to be played forever and for the price of free it doesn't hurt to play a game that was designed just well enough to accomplish it's assigned premise.
It's easier to see how good it is when you compare it to Slenderman.
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Baldi and Slenderman are essentially the same character. The difference is that Slender doesn't have any tells or animation. Most of his outfit is black and the environment is mostly black as well with the only source of light being the flash light your character has. You gather the papers and hope not to see him.
Meanwhile Baldi is always physically on the map and doesn't magically appear ever, you can hear where he is and how fast he's moving, and he tracks you based on sight and sound.
Additionally he has counters. He can be pushed around and his hearing can be jammed with noise.
But Slenderman is an old game that broke the mold. Someone doing something better based on it's original formula is just how art is made in general. Well, how about Advanced Education?
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Viktor's Advanced Education plays a lot like Baldi's Basics but, well, it does too much. It's easier to get lost in the school, the problems are harder to do and while do you do the problems Viktor can attack you. Viktor has way less tells and his main counter is much harder to use than the counters that were in Baldi's and you have to micromanage the chef (and you can still get ganked while doing that as well). It also adopts more of a creepypasta tone when Baldi's is specifically a parody of a creepypasta game.
The developer doesn't understand that what made Baldi's Basics work is that it was simple.
It may have been a Game Jam game but Baldi's Basics is what I would consider an example of
Good Design.
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Hey it's Baldi's Basics again? Not Quite. It's Baldi's Basics Classic Remastered.
By the way, this is the video that inspired me to write this article but unlike Flaw Peacock's video inspiring me to write about Who's Lila out of how good it was and how it opened my mind to what exactly Who's Lila really is.
Minaxa's video left me feeling like the answer to the question posed by the title "Why did we forget about Baldi's Basics?" wasn't properly answered. He said that the answer was simple and it was. In fact it was more simple than the one he gave.
The real, most simple answer as to why later versions of Baldi's Basics go basically ignored is that everyone moved on.
Baldi's Basics v1.2.2 was a done game and a complete experience. The various iterative changes made by the creator Mystman12 were never going to be enough to keep people coming back because the core experience didn't change and it is still essentially the same game. Minaxa made it seem like it was our fault that we just didn't have the patience to wait for the game to come out in it's true form and that we are more used to rapid fire Fnaf style development.
But uh, that's not the case at all. Indie devs don't live and die on a fast development schedule. You can just look to McPig for that.
This is Pizza Tower in 2018.
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And here's the first version to be released on Steam.
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Pizza Tower took a long time to figure out just how much Wario it needed to emulate and how much Sonic it needed to add to really be the hit it ended up being. Are we really suggesting that the thing that sabotaged Baldi's was that the first version was too popular and that people would like Baldi's Remastered more if they didn't pay much attention to the first version of the game?
Should I even point out that people played a lot of Amanda the Adventurer and Shipwrecked64 when their demos came out and people played even more of it when the full version was released?
You understand how I find that argument flawed yes?
Don't get me wrong, I don't think Baldi's Remastered is a bad game.
The mistake he made though was not realizing that the premise of his game was simple and he really just needed to move onto the next project instead of tooling it. That's a brutal thing to say but there is such a thing as putting a game into development hell by just feature creeping a finished project.
Again, Pizza Tower in the end had a lot of reworked and cut content from the game in order to finally release it and have it be a success. If Mcpig had the same philosophy as Mystman12 does, Pizza Tower would still not be done because he'd be working on making a third and fourth gameplay mode for Pepperman and The Vigilante.
Would that have been a really efficient use of his time? It would not have been, but that's what Mystman12 is doing to the Baldi series, in his mind he thinks there's more to add to the game to make it better but that's going to be the case with literally every project you can work on. By the virtue of being unable to settle on what a Baldi's Basic's game should be, Baldi's Basics Classic Remastered (and anything after that) is
Bad Design
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