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greatprotector-if · 10 months

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Okay, I'm a bit of a medieval weapons nerd so I gotta ask for.... Something.....

What kind of armor exists in the world? Is there plate armor? Gambeson? Have craftsman figured out brigandine yet? Also is there some kind of ultra strong metal like mithril in this world? Can we have equipment made of this material if it exists?

Finally as a personal question for you, what is your favorite sword and why is your favorite sword the hand and a half sword (the best sword in existence)?

...... What? You didn't think I called myself weird for fun did you? Niche and obscure topics are part of the weird package

i'm gonna be so honest with you i didn't know what ANY of this meant so i googled it and i would just like to say... Thank You. sincerely. i've been missing out wtf!!!! later when i have more time i will dedicate myself to going down a full rabbithole ancient armour and weaponry is so fascinating

the story takes place in a warmer climate inspired by south asia (and a bit of east asia) so while other stuff exists in other places, for here i don't think we're in the gambeson era that shit looks too stuffy. i mean it could work because alchemy + magic reasons but idk. i usually envision varying degrees of plate armour (and i genuinely have no idea what's going on with brigandine feel free to enlighten me LMAO I JUST LOOKED AT THE PICTURES AND WAS SO CONFUSED)

i take a lot of inspiration from pre-colonial era filipino armour, chainmail & plates. but also colourful and fancier looking because my brain loves colours and fancy looking shit. for a lot of character design stuff i usually evoke the Anime Outfits Suspension of Disbelief because i do not understand anything sorry for this absolute mess of an answer!

there's some ultra strong metal that you can make stuff out of yeah!!! however i have not come up with a name for it. it's a huge player in the economy of a neighbouring empire, but it's also mostly kept within the empire and rarely shared with outsiders. other stuff is DRAGON SCALES (AWESOME) (but only the ones from full-blooded dragons) (very tough and there are different kinds of dragons so you can make your shit out of different dragons based on the climate in your region) (don't worry the dragons aren't being hunted for materials they just shed their scales) (ok they're hunted sometimes but the hunters never succeed because Dragon)

also the armour does vary by species and region (obviously) and there are. so many. species. a lot of them. a lot of the armour employed by non-humans is magical or enchanted in some way idk it's just lore stuff

also yes you're right my favourite sword is the hand and a half sword as of uhhh checks watch.. two seconds ago. i googled it and this versatility sounds pretty awesome. also if i believe an alternate name is the 'bastard sword' which is fucking metal. but magical swords that slowly suck out the life force out of its wielder also hold a special place in my heart

okay this answer was so rambly and i feel like i just used as many words as i could without actually saying anything substantial but this is the best i got for now! but i will definitely revisit this topic in the future, so thank you tumblr user that-wierd-guy! (+ this topic isn't weird it's awesome)

#me writing a story about knights where i should probably know what the fuck's going on here #but i actually don't #sorry LMAAOOO>!?!?!?!??#V's armour in particular isn't the same as the majority of the other characters' because they're literally built different. wings!#answered asks #that-wierd-guy

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rqg179 · 5 months

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been watching the knight before christmas (arguably the best netflix christmas film) and got distracted thinking about a rad bouquet au wherein sir damien, knight of the citadel, is interrupted mid-duel with lord arum by a mysterious old crone (quanyii ? who would probably be horrified by the "old" descriptor) and given the (unwelcome) news that, in order to become a true knight, he has until christmas eve (yule? i cant remember the second citadel winter festival). the witch is incredibly vague about What this quest might be, and before damien has a chance to get some real answers she disappears, and promptly sends damien to ... i guess citadel geography still, but several hundred years later. arum was most likely not meant to be involved at all, but they were mid-duel, so what's he supposed to do, let damien escape?? so now both damien and arum are somewhere in the modern day citadel, a matter of days before christmas yule the winter festival, with no idea how they got here or how to get home. damien, surrounded by more flashing lights and music than he has ever seen in one place, immediately has a panic attack, and arum is helplessly trying to get him to calm down, when rilla, a science teacher at the local high school, finds them. and sure, these guys are in some wierd get-up, but one of them is clearly distressed and his - boyfriend? partner? seems to be almost as stressed, and hey, rilla knows how to deal with panic attacks. it quickly becomes apparent that neither of them know where they are, or possibly even who they are, because all either of them can give her is "Sir Damien, Knight of the Second Citadel" and "Lord Arum, He Who Rules the Swamp of Titan's Bloom", neither of which seem like legally valid names. so rilla calls her brother, a member of the local ... police force, i guess, to try to track down an address, or emergency contact, and get these two very committed medieval re-enactors home. except according to every database marc can legally access (and one or two he technically cant), neither of these men exist, like, at all. which also means neither of them have anywhere to stay, other than the police station, and rilla feels bad about just leaving them there, so she ... sets them up in her parents old guest house. so now she's got a guy who's convinced he's an old-timey knight and a lizard man with four arms staying in her guest house, and they keep swearing their duty to kill one another but neither of them seem particularly eager to do so. and it's like. 4 days until christmas, and rilla is really wondering how she ended up here

#this. got away from me i spent the whole film trying to adapt it to an au. it is shockingly easy #my post #no i have not listened to penumbra in ages. yes i think about it constantly. no i will not listen to it again #anyway #tpp #second citadel

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zanathan-aisling · 2 years

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shoutout to elden ring’s “oh no horrid beastial servants rebelled against the castle aristocracy!” backstory/subplot

ok adding this after i wrote all of that v but. kinda blurted out everything i DONT like about this whole game in the tags. btw the stuff i like about the game is Everything Else That I Didn’t Mention In The Notes Bar A Few Things

#good ol medieval fantasy cliches gotta love em /s #also like. loving the game in a LOT of ways but the writing just isnt fucking doing it for me at all #no clue what i'm even trying to do and all the characters feel so fucking flat they might as well be cardboard bar a few #the backstory and lore seem Cool but like...#inaccessible???#i'm not seeing much of it and as i said i don't even fucking know what i'm trying to do #like yeah yeah gather the elden ring back together or some shit but why am i killing the people that i'm killing #ds3 had a similar premise (up to and including teasing several 'big targets' in the intro) but explained it way better #like the actual reasons behind it were wierd and faulty but like. 'oh yeah these people are special because theyre lords of fire and i gotta #kill them and drag back their remains because we're going to link the fire with them all over again' is a REASON #I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT THIS ELDEN RING DOOOOOOOOOO #HOW DOES ANY OF THIS RELATE TO THE WORLD BEING FUCKED #also dont fucking answer these? bc i have a fucking feeling some of these are just me being clueless but others are like. spoiler shit.#also re: the uprising thing. like most souls games it leaves enough room for the audience to be contrarian about it. which i am.#you go you commie chimeras kill those bastards #but. thats. not aided by any actual text #ALSO THE BIG GUY WASNT EVEN USING THE BIG SWORD YOU GET FROM HIM?#big relatively speaking. also the gwyn parallels with him were really cool but i'm not sure if they were intentional #bc. i have 0 fucking idea how much emotional significance this specific guy is supposed to have. i don't even know if he actually lead the #uprising. he was just at the (really really really fucking beautiful) boss battle area #honestly thats my issue? it feels like i'm getting a lotta named men who did things. some of those things are mentioned.#the impact or characterization behind those actions are not as well communicated. and theres so many of them. its exhausting #MOSTLY BC I HAVE TROUBLE REMEMBERING HOW THEY ALL FIT TOGETHER #i. kinda felt like dark souls 3 handled the progression-to-boss-building-the-bosses-character thing way better?? even yhorm.#ALSO FUCKIN HELL HOW MANY DUNGEONS AM I GONNA GO THROUGH ONLY TO BE GREETED BY A FINAL 'BOSS' WEAKER THAN MY SNEEZES #one of my highest rated messages is 'didn't expect weak foe *point down*' in the final room of a crypt like... fucks sake #might lovepost about ER tomorrow because there genuinely is a shit ton of stuff i like about it too. i like significantly more than i dislik #dislike. its just... dang.

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plaguedoctormemes · 4 years

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Well, it’s a midnight and I’m watching my nerdy videos on youtube and i find this channel. Some of my favorite interests (besides plague doctors, of course) is food. I love food. And history. I love history! BAM!

I just found this channel today called Tasting History and this channel is criminally overlooked. With only a bit over 35k subscribers, this guy creates informative videos with recreations of real dishes from history, such as from the romans and medieval times. He also gives a lot of context for the dishes where he can and explains their origins and relevant information about the methods in making it.

(Besides the obvious history side of stuff, It’s also important to note that medieval medicine is based on the balance of the humors, and a part of the belief is the importance and impact food has on the body.)

ANYWAYS. If you love learning about everyday culture from history and love food (watching it, making it or eating it) then I highly implore you to give this guy a watch. Here is a video specifically about wierd cures for the black plague over the medieval and rennaissance period, one of which is candied horseradish which he attemps to recreate.

https://youtu.be/eKH7pP102c8

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#plague #plague doctor #bubonic plague #black plague #the doctor is in #relevant #history #food history #cooking #historical food #Youtube

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lady-plantagenet · 3 years

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What hasn’t already been said: The Spanish Princess 2

Episode 3: GOOD Grief! (we finally have a good episode on our hands)

To all those of you keen enough to have come back for another segment of ‘what hasn’t already been said: TSP’, as opposed to have just been scrolling when you see this - welcome back! (Scrollers you too <3)

Drawing of Thomas More’s Son AKA who Margaret Pole at this point wants to be the step baby momma of ;).

To anyone who’s seeing this for the first time: what this is a list of observations, jokes, reactions and criticism which occur to me upon a rewatch. I wait every week until Saturday to do this so that I have had my fill of scrolling through the tag and aggregating what has already been said. I tried doing a whole spoof (here where I gave up 10% in) but tbh a) I don’t know the history well enough b) it’s more time consuming than I thought and c) this series is just not as funny or as crazy as TWQ, so it’s untenable. Having said that: This is not a hatepost. I’m not hatewatching this series and nitpicking on purpose but expressing my honest views and trying to find the good in it as well as the bad.

Without further ado...

First Scenes:

LMAO the way Wolsey suggests they break their alliance with Spain is freaking hilarious because the actor delivers the lines as if he were a high school girl making a personal attack by suggesting the prom change its theme to 70s disco to the chagrin of the peppy up-and-coming rival.

Also @ Henry VIII looking like the peppy up-and-comer’s bff and shy stan with that pencil bite and small smirk when Catherine loses her cool against Wolsey.

I’m sorry... who is Henry married to again?

Also what is Margaret Pole doing at the council meeting?? I’m not saying I don’t like it.

Margaret Pole warning against certain repetitive thinking creating madness :(((

Attempted Naked Twister:

Oh Catherine, what is with you and all the other STARZ protagonists and that weird politcky bedroom talk? Who actually finds this sexy?

‘Catherine you are unnatural’ ooof that line delivery was somehow haunting.

Was the whole ‘I can’t be rushed you are off-putting with your overpowering’ a callback to Arthur and Catherine? Apparently there’s another writer for this episode so I won’t put all subtly past them.

Scotland:

‘Shitey men’ asdkjashd

Look I’m tired of all this ‘my children won’t be safe’ line getting repeated. Look mate, murder of royal infants and children was not exactly a common occurence, even in cases of deposition. The Princes in the Tower are an exception to this but a very infamous case for that reason. Child murder was extremely taboo. In situations like this with an infant kid, no one is going to bother murdering the babies and taking their thrones, the lords will just vie for power and make themselves de facto rulers and oust the queen. It’s not a question of safety but a question of holding power. Stop giving all women characters perma mummy brains.

Maggie being all caring:

‘Barnaby’ *scoffs* ‘Such an English name’ - OH MAN 0_0 is Catherine mocking them for trying to adapt ? Like I know it’s meant to show her envy for Lina, but it’s coming out all messed up.

Our girl Maggie’s smile screams I’m beating your ass in chess.

Anyhow this is the least histrionic we’ve seen Catherine so far.

Chaplain vs Catherine:

I’m interested how Catherine will feel at Stafford’s execution given that I have noticed this show build up to a friendship between them.

Why is everyone laughing at the whole ‘will you delight us with new schemes’ line was not that funny?

LMAO at Thomas Boleyn’s attempted brown-nosing.

You know what? Ruairi is a decent actor. When he says ‘so you admit it? you lost the child because you tried to be a man?” the actor conveys Henry’s troubled mind, lowkey scare towards Catherine and bewilderment all in one. The way his eyes do not move but just widen emotionlessly also gives this sense that he is being manipulated (which I guess they are going for with Wolsey). Then the whole choir music in the background.. I don’t know.. I’m liking this, it’s creating a vibe of a king of haunted and increasingly paranoid Henry. I’m sure they are going for that, so good.

Ursula Pole and Mama:

Maggie Pole say ‘riches don’t keep you safe’ with tears in her eyes :’(. Please tell me how this is not her thinking on her parents and granddad Warwick and what befell them ;’(.

I find Ursula refreshing actually, don’t get those types of heroines often. But they are making her similar to a gold-digger, an exhalted marriage was first and foremost considered a thing of honour. Noblepeople wouldn’t speak in such mercenary terms regarding their marriages.

Post Mary Defiance:

I love the ‘horse’ nickname from Brandon n’awwww

Also just realised what made TWQ so atmospheric - that wierd ‘oooo’ sound effect in the background when a character was being paranoid or worrying. They are using it during Henry’s ‘How is it that I have no sons?’ and it is just... so effective.

Catherine calling them ordinary children... she just keeps striking me as more and more classist. Like ok, I know every royal was... but still, I thought she was meant to see Lina as a friend and equal despite her race and status. To add the race element, this kind of rubs me the wrong way.

Also it is so clear by the end when Catherine states how the king is upset with her, she expects Maggie to ask her about it.. but she doesn’t lmao.

Back to Scotland until Sexy boy fencing:

I love me this soft boi. Angus <3 <3

I like how they address that some men don’t really like killing and that violence isn’t inherent in a man’s nature.

Oh man, are we supposed to look at Lina’s house and deplore the impoverished conditions? It would go for at least 3,000,000 pounds in today’s property market?

Is Catherine being particularly classist again with ‘Why u not becoming a butcher Wolsey, ey?’.

Though I will admit the ‘but giving meat to the poor is also good’ was one of her only smart comebacks.

Just realised, Catherine’s pink dress pretty as it is, looks straight out of the 1570s... why?

Montage and After:

You guys are right, there is this weird longing between Henry and Wolsey lmao. It is actually insane.

So basically Catherine is officially depressed

OOOFF we have Stafford as regent instead of Catherine. (edit: I suppose it’s cause they go to France which they didn’t historically? Also if Stafford is at home then what is his son later doing in France, why would he be there without his father. This show didn’t think this through)

Meg Singing:

An impassionate speech is not too anachronistic. But despite the title of this post (what hasn’t been said) I will reiterate that 16th century and Medieval people’s problem wasn’t that they were ashamed of their grief and didn’t cry. In fact, crying was somewhat more socially acceptable then than it even is now! Even manly men like Arthur were written as crying in literature such as Malory’s Morte d’Arthur. Obviously you couldn’t go overboard, but in truth crying was indeed often too performative rather than hidden too much behind doors.

Pole and More UWUWU in France and after:

I LIKE THIS INTELLECTUAL FLIRTING

It’s nice to see a depiction of romantic feelings between mature and level-headed subjects.

God Mary Tudor is so beautiful in this scene jesus. and the music when she was being presented was also very beautiful.

Maggie Pole getting given ‘a modest income’ yeah... she was one of the wealthiest peers of her day.

Also Maggie’s lady cousin not lady aunt Frost!

‘shaking of the sheets’ lmaoooo

William Compton cracks the hell out of me. I love this guy. He is just so creepy and twisted yet super keen and friendly. ahaha He looks like a riot, I hope we see him more. lmao tiles.

Also this palace feels very anachronistic almost 18th century-ish.

I like the Louis and Mary sequence, it’s nice seeing him trying to make her feel less scared, but OMFG when he lay on that chair.. for one second I thought they were trying to kill him off already.

Scotland: ‘Love is an open doooooorrrrr’ + Last Scene:

I ship Meg and Douglas ahhhh this soft boi x strong woman match is everything Henry and Catherine could have been.

I wonder... why is Lina speaking in Spanish more than Catherine. hmmm Are they trying to foreshadow Lina’s eventual return home and how Catherine become a true englishwoman?

Conclusion:

7.5/10

I cannot in all fairness believe it. This was actually decent. I’ve given up on historical accuracy long ago so by this point I’m focusing more on how it stands as as drama. I mean, TWQ was also a flop when it came to grasping the complex issues of that era but why do I feel compelled to rewatch it every year? Because it had atmosphere when it came to acting, music, certain aesthetics (though the costumes let me down often). It felt adequately gothic and dark, yet bright and jewel-lish when it had to be, sometimes both at the same time. Some one-liners were also memorable etc...

So far TSP 2 did not have any of this. Everything felt way too off and anachronistic. But not even consistently anachronistic. The music was also often very meh (though I just noted the absence of the spanish stringy theme that kept playing in season 1 - I guess I understand why), the dialogue very clichéd (‘alright lads let’s throw in the words: king, crown, power, fight, battle + other buzzwords and we have ourselves Shakespeare’) and so on... but I saw a change in this episode and I couldn’t initially point out what it was.

Upon rewatch, I identified some of the improvements (noted above) but above all: The producer was different! Boy does it show. Unfortunately, I think she is only for this one episode which really sucks. Come back! There is more chemistry between the couples, less predictable interactions, pervy Compton, cinnamonroll Douglas, better music, more scenic shots (e.g Douglas and Margaret in church) e.t.c. I hope it will match the rest of the STARZ productions in getting better towards the end.

Look it’s no masterpiece. But I’ll give credit where it’s due because at least this time it didn’t leave me feeling wanting and unsatisfied (if that makes sense).

#the spanish princess #the spanish princess 2 #lady plantagenet's series reviews #catherine of aragon #henry viii #mary tudor queen of france #margaret tudor #charles brandon #margaret pole

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nitr09-productions · 3 years

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Sometimes I forget what a strange person my dad actually is, and it only comes out when he's sharing his strange anecdotes. He was a d-list country musician from the 80's until I was about 5 in the early 2000's, and you wouldn't think it was all that interesting. But things got wierd...

- He accidently overdosed his friend's dog on weed brownies, and the dog thought it could fly???

- He once played so loud that there were noise complaints from five miles away.

- One of his bandmates tried to kill him one time.

-He was almost arrested for an armed petrol station robbery he didn't commit because his friend looked kinda like the suspect.

- He got out of a ticket while driving the tour bus by letting a cop play his fender stratocaster by the side of the road in the middle of the night.

- He was invited to a deceased fan's open casket funeral, and when he got there he was mildly perturbed to see the dead guy all dressed in band merch. A real life guy was just so obsessed with my dad that he was buried in a T-shirt with his face on it?!?

- He used to smoke with my favourite middle school english teacher, which I only found out (along with some of my classmates) when they reconnected on a school trip where my dad was a parent helper.

- He used to have a side job as a medieval themed party entertainer at the local pub, and would take three year old me with him and leave me there while he worked as a form of "free babysitting." That's when the ghost incident happened (I think I've mentioned it on my blog before), which I have never been able to live down in my hometown.

- He was a very scruffy dresser back when I was a baby, while my mum insisted that I always wore pristine baby clothes. There is a photo of us with a very concerned looking mall santa, who genuinely thought I had been "kidnapped by a homeless person."

- He had to quit playing music eventually, and got a job at the local slaughterhouse so he could stay at home and focus on my brother and I. I was a hypersensitive animal loving child who would've been heartbroken if I found out what he did for a living, so he made up an elaborate fantasy backstory about being one of santa's christmas elves so I didn't have to be sad.

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mageofseven · 3 years

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Hello, I saw your matchups and they look really good, I was hoping you could match me up with one of the brothers or undatables. I'm an INTP(-t), type 5 wing 6 for enneagram. I don't believe strongly in astrology but I'm a Libra and I think it fits me.

People have told me they think I'm one of those quiet, shy girls until they get to know me, then they learn I can talk about anything for hours. Most people think I'm sarcastic and funny, when I meet new people I try to make them laugh to make things less awkward. My biggest love language is quality time, but I also like gift giving and acts of service because I like to show people how much I care by putting a lot of thought/time into what I give to them/do for them. I don't like it when people do it back because I feel like I owe them but if they do something/get something really thoughtful I get really emotional about it even if it's small. I'm bad at expressing it though, my desire to express my appreciation for others is far stronger than my ability to do so. I live in my own head for the most part, and people say I can be blunt but sometimes I don't pick up on things or other people misunderstand me so I feel out of the loop.

I pace a lot, I can't sit still when I'm daydreaming and I do that a lot, usually to process things like if I learn something I'll imagine explaining it to someone in my head or I'll be trying to sort out my emotions about something. I pace all the time, during dinner I'll grab my plate and walk while I eat, I pace when I'm bored, or usually I'll get inspired by something and have to think about it so I'll pace. I'm always zoned out when I'm walking. A lot of people find it odd.

I have a lot of interests, not enough time to pursue them. I like reading about psychology, languages, ancient cultures and history. I would either be a great student because I'd find everything they teach at RAD facinating and consider studying a leisure activity, or I would be too busy reading my way through the library and trying to find books containing information lost to humanity, stuff about dead languages and ancient cultures. I'd probably pester Diavolo about doing a book exchange with the human world either way.

As for hobbies, I don't have many of them. I like to draw but I don't like showing off my art because it feels really personal, and I don't really like people knowing anything personal about me, like the music I listen to or movies I like. I overthink everything so I'm always worried they'll think it's wierd, so I filter anything about myself that I am not proud of. I do open up about things the more I get to know someone, though. I have a lot of fandoms but I don't like any one specific thing, I'll get obsessed with manga/anime, movies, games, books, it doesn't matter to me what medium the story is told as long as it's interesting, though I do lean towards medieval fantasy. I like D&D and renaissance festivals, and I'm kinda obsessed with Lord of the Rings to the point where I am learning Quenya. Whether I'm reading or drawing or teaching myself fictional languages, I tend to focus completely on one thing at a time, but usually my focus shifts before I'm done reading/drawing/learning and it's sort of frustrating.

If you do this, thank you.

Hmm. Okay! I bounced between three different guys, but I think I found one to focus on for you.

I pair you with...

Solomon

Solomon is someone who would be attracted by your mind more than anything. He would be impressed with your interest in learning about dead languages and ancient cultures, something I see as being a long time interest of his as well. To me, Solomon is someone who wants to learn everything he can from the three realms in hope that he can use it for his own benefit. I can see him recommending you a few books and testing your knowledge on a particular topic out of the blue to see how you've progressed in your independent studies. Though he no longer has the same issue, he can remember the feeling of wanting to learn so much and not having enough time to do so and would suggest ways to spend your time a little more efficiently to combat that feeling. He'd also support you when you approach Diavolo about a book exchange between the realms. More knowledge is always good after all.

I can see Solomon being really curious about your drawings too, not because he has any strong interest in art, but because he knows how personal it is to you without you even telling him and sees it as a sign that you hold a comfortable trust in him when you do show him. In general, I think he'd love to hear about your interests and thoughts because it helps him to understand you as a person. He wants to know more about you and your inner world; it was his curiosity about you that led him into spending time with you and eventually led to you two dating.

The biggest issue I can see with this relationship is your love language, quality time. I see Solomon as a very independent person who likes to go off and do his own thing at any given time. You two would have to communicate and find a balance you're both comfortable with in order to make the relationship work.

#matchup requests #anon #obey me solomon

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gringolet · 4 years

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I'm curious what makes you ship gawain and lancelot in the first place?

shulregahlugrahugr okay… look….

short answer: I just think they’re neat and should hold hands

LONG ANSWER:

it just seems like they just genuinely really care about each other even though they’re in some ways very different, like they’re technically rivals right, because at least in vulgate and (kinda) la morte de arthur, lancelot is the best with gawain a close second, but they never seem all that competitive.

especially in chretiens kngiht of the cart where they have this whole like buddy cop thing going on, where lancelot is younger and more impulsive and emotional and gawain is like just sort of along for the ride, stopping lancelot from falling out of windows and sleeping wierd places. then lancelot gets captured and has this whole. deeply homoerotic monologue about why gawain hasnt rescued him yet. here is is:

“Ah, Gawain, you who possess suchworth, and whose goodness is unparalleled, surely I may well be amazed that you do not come tosuccour me. Surely you delay too long and are not showing courtesy. He ought indeed to receive youraid whom you used to love so devotedly! For my part I may truly say that there is no lodging place or retreat on either side of the sea, where I would not have searched for you at least seven or ten yearsbefore finding you, if I knew you to be in prison. But why do I thus torment myself? You do not carefor me even enough to take this trouble. The rustic is right when he says that it is hard nowadays to finda friend! It is easy to rest the true friend in time of need. Alas! more than a year has passed since first Iwas put inside this tower. I feel hurt, Gawain, that you have so long deserted me! But doubtless youknow nothing of all this, and I have no ground for blaming you. Yes, when I think of it, this must be thecase, and I was very wrong to imagine such a thing; for I am confident that not for all the worldcontains would you and your men have failed to come to release me from this trouble and distress, ifyou were aware of it. If for no other reason, you would be bound to do this out of love for me, yourcompanion. But it is idle to talk about it – it cannot be. “

basically sitting in a tower moping playing ‘he loves me, he loves me not,’ so thats certainly a lot, lets move on to the vulgate, where gawain pretty infamously says the following about lancelot:

“I’d immediately wish to be the most beautiful maiden in the world, happy and healthy, on condition that he would love me above all others, all his life and mine,”

so. theres that.

the main reason is deffo the end tho, where gawain gets fully unhinged and keeps trying to cut of lancelots head, which sounds wild but like lemme explain.

so lancelot and gawain fight and its really close, but eventually lancelot wins. gawain refuses to yield though, so lance now has to choose between killing gawain, which will also end the war and solve a lot of his problems, and dishonorably leaving the field, prolonging the war and shaming himself. its worth noting that gawain is literally begging lancelot to kill him at this point. but lancelot cant bring himself to do it, and returns to his cousins in shame.

theyre like dude what the fuck, and he says uh some things which speak for themselves:

“he would have killed you if he could,” said Hector, “Why did you not do the same to him?”

“I could not do it,” said Lancelot, “because my heart, which directs me, would not allow it for anything,”

and

“I should not kill him for all the world…he is the man, out of all those in the world that have meant anything to me, that I have most loved,”

and

“it is certainly remarkable of you, “said King Bors, “to love him so deeply when he hates you mortally,”

“find it remarkable if you wish,” replied Lancelot, “but he will never be able to hate me so much that I stop loving him.”

fuck oh god i made myself sad holy shit. guys they love each other. god this post is so long but like. feel free to send me asks about them when fuckin ever i will drop everything to talk about how much i think these two medieval literature characters should kiss.

#long post #arthuriana #look #THYERE IN LOVE OKAY #i have a test in less than an hour and and i ditched studying for it to write this fucking... essay #and i also ditched studying last night to watch avalon high on discord...#sorry greek vase painting of archaic athens but u dont hold my attention like gawain does #Anonymous

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