#Jiang cheng sucks

[hauntedcats-tales]

This is the person Jiang Cheng stans believe WWX should have left LWJ for and gone back to Lotus Pier with when he came back to life.

chapter 10, 'Only moments before, Jiang Cheng had been so certain this person was Wei Wuxian that all the blood in his body had gone cold and then boiled over in rage. But now, his Zidian told him loudly and clearly that he wasn’t. Zidian couldn’t possibly lie to him, and even less could it make an error. The Clan Chief rapidly calmed himself, and silently thought: It isn’t as though I can’t deal with this. Worst comes to worst, I’ll find some excuse to bring him back to Yunmeng, and then use every method I can to beat the truth out. There’s no need to worry about failing to get anything from him. He can hardly keep everything hidden. It’s not as though I haven’t done this type of thing before.'

Yeah, right.

#wangxian #mo dao su zhi #mdzs #anti jiang cheng #jiang cheng sucks

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

Bros before Ho(oh my god is that Hanguang-Jun?)

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#poorly drawn mdzs #mdzs #wei wuxian #jiang cheng #WWX really was unhinged for saying he was going to always be at JC's side and then immediately asking about LWJ. #The D in ADHD stands for Distractible. The second D stands for DooowawawaWaaaah (ADHDers know what I mean) #Their conversation is such a knife twist in this flashback. WWX truly and genuinely does mean it when he says he wants to support JC #And that JC hopes for that too! Tragedies hit the hardest when you can feel the lost futures characters would have together #And I feel it here in this scene so painfully. There's complicated feelings between them but it wasn't what broke them apart. #The rumours and the twisted family dynamics that tried to pit them against each other likely wouldnt have worked. #It set the stage for JC to have an inferiority complex which then grows into his responsibility complex. #WWX even calls it out! That JC has to be the responsible one in the dynamic. #And it sucks to be in that unequal position with a sibling or a not-sibling. #You don't get the love *or* acknowledgement but you do get the pressure to be the 'better one' in the face of the other's misbehaviour. #But I digress. There was a world where they did became the twin heroes of yunmeng jiang and stayed together. #And we'll never see it. That world is gone now. And just like Lotus pier -even if they tried to rebuild it - they will never be the same.

[andhumanslovedstories]

#I feel like I’m baiting wwx but cmon you cannot tell me he’d be worse at improv comedy than all the other people listed #personally I think it’s Jiang Cheng because he’d be visibly trying so hard but have such toxic vibes #I say this as a jc supporter: it would be rough to watch #the untamed #mdzs #lwj would also suck real bad to be clear

[purpiesaint]

As bad as YZY is for Jiang Cheng I think Jiang Cheng has far more daddy issues then mommy issues.

With his mother, as awful as she is to Jiang Cheng he always knows where he stands with her. When she’s upset with him he’ll know why. He’s upset by her, hurt by doesn’t stay up at night thinking about it.

But with JFM he’ll never know where he stands with him, what can he do to make JFM like him. He agonises on why his father doesn’t like him. He wants his father to like him so fucking badly.

If anyone has mommy issues more it’s likely Yanli and WWX than Jiang Cheng

#jiang cheng #mdzs #the untamed #Jiang Chengs daddy issues #the Jiang parents just suck so bad

[twistedappletree]

AU where Jin Ling and Ouyang Zizhen meet when they’re babies and Jin Ling keeps making fun of him for reading cheesy, sappy romance stories but secretly looks over his shoulder to read them too and whenever he sees Jiang Cheng talking to another adult, he tries to ‘help’ him court them by randomly cutting in with unhinged sentences like “jiujiu is single because he’s never slayed a dragon” or “jiujiu isn’t married because he hasn’t kissed any frogs”

#he’s so subtle fr #baby jin ling is an expert wingman actually #mdzs #the untamed #mo dao zu shi #mdzs au #mdzs headcanons #jiang cheng #jin ling #jin rulan #ouyang zizhen #mdzs juniors #precious juniors #apple babble 🍎 #JC sucks at romance #but it’s okay because baby JL has an expert plan to make it exponentially worse lmfaooo #jin ling and his jiujiu

[trans-xianxian]

saw a post about how jiang cheng isn't selfish because he's done all of this stuff for his loved ones and it's like yeah. jiang cheng loves very deeply and that's. exactly why he's selfish. jiang cheng being selfish doesn't equal jiang cheng being heartless or unloving. his goals are to selfishly keep his loved ones, most notably wei wuxian, to himself at the expense of their own personal autonomy. when jiang cheng goes to the burial mounds and begs wei wuxian to give the wen remnants up and come home, he does it because he loves him, but he also does it because he's a selfish coward who puts his own wants for wei wuxians safety and companionship above wei wuxians personal wishes and the lives of the wens. these things are not mutually exclusive in fact they are intricately connected

#obviously wanting someone to be safe and together with you is not selfish on its own #but demanding they achieve that by abandoning their goals #instead of by finding a way to help them and keep them safe #is #and I don't blame jiang cheng for not being able to help #just like I don't blame lan wangji for the same thing #but jiang cheng IS selfish. deeply so. that doesn't mean he doesn't care for others #or that he never acts selflessly #I can think of many times he acts selflessly! and yet he is still selfish #jiang cheng stans please free yourself from the belief tgat he has to be perfect in order for you to love him he Does kind of suck #and thats good it adds flavor #ghost posts #text #jc #wwx #yunmeng bros

[lilnasxvevo]

wei wuxian has one (1) fucking adventure with someone who isn't jiang cheng that he won't tell jiang cheng about and jiang cheng goes into a SNIT about it and literally goes "oh well if you're so CLOSE with LAN WANGJI now why don't you just MOVE here and become part of the LAN clan? surely cloud recesses is sooooo much better than lotus pier huh????" and wei ying is like from the bottom of my heart what the hell are you talking about GOD no lotus pier is still #1 you little goof

#jiang cheng: you REPLACE the shidi? you replace him with the second jade? oh! oh! jail for shige! #of all the little brothers on this show jiang cheng is truly the MOST little brother #and yes i am including nhs in that tally #also lan zhan hears wei ying going 'god no i would never live in gusu! that would suck!' and he looks all SAD about it #god these stupid fucking gay teenagers

[shiqingxuanz]

THE UNTAMED: EPISODE 28

#the untamed #cql #chen qing ling #mdzs #mxtxnet #wei wuxian #jiang cheng #the untamed gifs #snow.gifs #i think i made them a little too red idk i haven't giffed in a while and my perception of literally everything sucks if i look for too long #my yunmeng bros...so sad about their ending #mo ran and xue meng still seeing each other as brothers at the end is redemption for these two being the opposite #i feel like i should've sharpened these more idk

[sandu-zidian]

My name is Brutus but the people will call me Rex.

(Disclaimer: when I began this, I did not know that the artist of this song, the Buttress, is a terf. Given that I had already started this and was almost done by the time I was told, I thought I would post this still. However, please know that I don’t support the bigotry said by this artist)

#katan art #mdzs #jiang cheng #wei wuxian #(not directly shown tho lmao) #yunmeng shuangjie #this song really is such a JC coded song #sucks shit that the artist is a fucking terf but like whatever it’s one song #think we all need to collectively make JC more insane again like there's so much already there!! #'i can fix him' i want him to stay this bad actually. healing and growth who?

[kamariya]

what does "jiang cheng is a tsundere!" even mean?

Tsundere (ツンデレ, pronounced [t͡sɯndeɾe]) is a Japanese term for a character development process that depicts a character with an initially harsh personality who gradually reveals a warmer, friendlier side over time.

[quoted directly from Wikipedia]

when does this "warm, friendlier" side of jiang cheng emerge? he literally participated in a massacre (you know, the victims of whom were innocent farmers, even a granny and could have even been a child). he was instrumental in his martial brother's death, knowing full well his sister sacrificed herself to save him. he literally physically and verbally abuses his nephew. he captures and kills anyone who resembles WWX slightly for years after his death--- you know, even if he just hates WWX for some miraculous justification, he is killing innocent people. he even blames and mocks WWX for giving him his golden core.

what "warmer, friendlier" side, dude?

#I've been getting mad over this since i watched cql and even more once i picked up the novel #love him hate him. it's fine! he's a fictional character! #i like xue yang but i ACCEPT that he fucking sucks. that hes literally the worst person ever #i accept that he commits unforgivable crimes! im not gonna sit here and say that uwu xue yang is such a cute lil boi #and yet. and yet jc stans are so insufferable about their fictional fav like WOW #mdzs #jiang cheng #canon jiang cheng #swan stuff

[dionte-goethe]

I'm so late for Jiang Cheng's birthday, but my tablet pen charger broke so yeah. I just wanted to draw allcheng. Or all-jiujiu-thieves?

#jiang cheng #happy birthday jiang cheng #sorry im late #real life sucks #jiujiu thieves #allcheng #i imagine there are a few more clamoring offscreen #i play with all the canon designs though i tend to lean towards donghua

[hobunaga]

Nekomata Jiang Cheng is enjoying a late night snack of milkies from his favorite source, Ushioni Huaisang.

#mdzs #sangcheng #jiang cheng #nie huaisang #mo dao zu shi #my art #I might color this eventually #but just lining Huaisang's hair has sucked me dry #anyways i'm proud of this piece

[labyrynth]

jc/jgy antis when characters are backed into a corner and forced to make difficult decisions between ethics and survival:

#jgy tag #mdzs talk #jiang cheng #canon jiang cheng #salt is salt #you understand how absurd it is to expect anyone to lay down and die right? #honestly this was more of a jgy thought at first but it applies to jc too #choosing survival doesn’t make you a bad person! #if jgy did everything the ‘moral’ way he would be dead in a ditch after being used by that jin commander #until either he sticks up for himself and is killed directly or indirectly or until the day he dies waiting for recognition to come #wen ruohan wouldn’t be dead and ​they would have lost the war #or as a jin: if he had refused his father he would have been cast out on the streets to die in ignominy or dead many times over #if jc did everything the ‘moral’ way you want him to then he would have immediately plunged the cultivation world right back into war #because you can’t just double down on a direct attack on another sect’s disciples and expect everything to be fine #you either suck it up and apologize and try to put things back the way they were #or you say ‘actually my disciple was right to murder yours and also fuck you. i do what i want.’ #and immediately all the other sects think back to wwx going ‘i could easily kill all of you if i wanted to’ #and going ‘clearly the jiang have let wwx’s power corrupt them and now they think they can do whatever they want and walk all over us.’ #‘they need to be stopped.’ #like wwx caused this mess!!! you can’t skirt around that!!! he jumped straight to murder and surprise surprise that’s not a great solution! #and thus: jc doing the ‘moral’ thing and backing up wwx’s actions ends in even more death and bloodshed. #congrats! your shortsightedness and blindness to wwx’s recklessness has led you to believe that ‘oh well if they just explained—‘ #NO. THATS NOT HOW THESE PEOPLE THINK. #THEYRE ANXIOUS AND SCARED OF THINGS THEY DONT UNDERSTAND. #all THEY see is a guy with creepy and blasphemous powers suddenly turning against them #and instead of his sect leader reining it in he goes ‘he’s right actually.’ #how could that ​NOT be taken as tacit endorsement of all of wwx’s other actions?? #god you all are so stupid and you don’t even realize it #you just brainlessly go ‘IF HE DIDNT DIE TRYING HE DIDNT TRY HARD ENOUGH’

[littlegreenmp3]

I don’t think things would change THAT much if Wei Wuxian was the youngest in the Yunmeng Trio considering he and Jiang Cheng are so close in age that I still think they would be compared to one another by the Jiang Parents (derogatory) and he and Yanli already have a very emotionally close older sister/little brother dynamic (plus I’m very fond of eldest daughter jyl, middle child wwx and baby jc dynamics) but it is both a little funny and absolutely nauseating to imagine Jiang Cheng absolutely fucking losing it over his little brother like randomly fucking off to frolic in secret Lan caves and the burial mounds and shit.

I also do think that instead of just telling off Jin Zixun in this universe during the Phoenix Mountain Hunt Jiang Yanli unhinges her jaw like a snake and eats him

#cql #the untamed #mzds #yunmeng siblings #Wei Wuxian #Jiang Yanli #Jiang Cheng #Jiang Cheng probably: LAN WANGJI IS SUCKING FACE WITH MY BABY BROTHER THIS IS THE WORST #also to my knowledge we’ve never seen jyl defend Jiang Cheng #but I KNOW my girl would tear the throat out of anyone who dare insult her babiest of babies #my post

[trans-xianxian]

something I'm struggling with writing this fic is portraying just like. how fuckin cool wei wuxian is? I can get into all of the grief and melancholy and sadness and joy and love easily but I'm having a very hard time accurately capturing how witty and smart and charming wei wuxian is just as like a constant of his character

#and he's So funny too #I think I'm a funny person but Being funny and Writing Funny Dialogue are two very different things #jiang cheng is easy because he sucks but garners sympathy #wei wuxian is hard because actually delightful and likable AKHSNXYKSB #ghost posts #text #wwx

[lotushiddenintheclouds]

So... I wanna talk about MDZS and SW

This is me whenever I, as a Mo Dao Zu Shi (MDZS) and Star Wars (SW) fan, find similarities between two franchises I absolutely adore.

Tbf, there aren't a lot of main similarities between the two (and there's a change a couple might flat-out ignore their individual genres, messages, and cultural contexts).

But there's one thing that keeps me up at night... Star Wars prequels have that brothers-turned-enemies duel which MDZS hugely lacks.

(DISCLAIMER: SPOILERS AHEAD)

First, some context (i'll try to make it quick):

Mo Dao Zu Shi (魔道祖师, acronym MDZS): a Chinese fantasy (xianxia) danmei novel (with animated, live, graphic visual, and audio adaptations), written by Mo Xiang Tong Xiu (acronym: MXTX)

Star Wars (acronym SW): a sci-fi fantasy, soap opera, franchise that spawned out of George Lucas' movie trilogies (the first trilogy from the 80s - OG, the second trilogy from the 00s - prequels; a third trilogy by Disney from the late 2010s - sequels)

MDZS is about a necromancer teaming up *ahem* with another cultivator to solve a mystery. Both men end up together romantically, since danmei = boy's love/BL. Cue political intrigue, subverted common xianxia tropes (e.g. necromancer/demonic cultivator = evil-coded), morality and justice questioned, family drama, and commentary on cancel culture.

Star Wars, as a whole, is about the legacy of the Skywalker family, the downfall of fighting monks with magic powers (Jedi), and their evil counterpart (Sith) taking over the galaxy, and the restoration of peace and justice. It spawns over counts on fingers around seven decades. Oh, and a prophecy is thrown in there too.

NOW TO THE POINT: The particular scene I had in mind was the famous, big duel between Anakin Skywalker and Obi-Wan Kenobi from Star Wars Episode 3 (Revenge of the Sith).

A Jedi master (Obi-Wan) and his past apprentice (Anakin), close as brothers, have to face each other. The apprentice has turned to the dark side (Sith) and committed genocide, with his master/close friend/brother assigned to kill him.

In my honest opinion, this duel mirrors Wei Wuxian's and Jiang Cheng's final showdown in the novel.

A necromancer (Wei Wuxian) and a sect leader (Jiang Cheng) growing up as martial siblings, close as blood brothers. Wei Wuxian diverges from the orthodox path of cultivation and takes up ghost cultivation/gui dao. This paints him in a negative light, resulting him and his martial brother separating. But they truly turn against each other when the necromancer was responsible for the sect leader's sister's and her husband's deaths.

The drift between the martial brothers is clearly and poetically written in the novel. There's one thing missing... Wei Wuxian's death is not shown and we can only rely on rumours that Jiang Cheng fought and defeated Wei Wuxian.

And this drives me so crazy. Had MXTX been so kind and written that scene out (if the rumours are even true!!) then would have had a version played out like this:

sobs in a corner I love brothers turning against each other and engaged in one of the most significant duels in the story.

(edited to add clarification)

#mdzs #mo dao zu shi #star wars #star wars prequels #i have thoughts #wei wuxian #jiang cheng #anakin skywalker #obi wan kenobi #looks like i suck at summaries rip me #and so i start rambling #brother dynamic #yunmeng shuangjie