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bethanydelleman · 1 month

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I've never thought that Anne was not ill or that it was secretly Lady Catherine's fault, for many reasons, but mainly because Jane Austen tends to be very clear when someone is a hypochondriac. There are a ton of them in Austen's novels and the narrator always makes a snide remark or just informs us outright:

Mrs. Bennet: When she was discontented, she fancied herself nervous (at this time that meant a disorder of the nervous system, not "anxious)

Mr. Woodhouse: The evil of the actual disparity in their ages (and Mr. Woodhouse had not married early) was much increased by his constitution and habits; for having been a valetudinarian all his life, without activity of mind or body, he was a much older man in ways than in years (noun: a person who is unduly anxious about their health)

Mary Musgrove: While well, and happy, and properly attended to, she had great good humour and excellent spirits; but any indisposition sunk her completely. She had no resources for solitude; and inheriting a considerable share of the Elliot self-importance, was very prone to add to every other distress that of fancying herself neglected and ill-used. (and the following conversation with Anne quickly reveals that she is exaggerating her illness for attention and can't even keep track of what times she was "ill")

Lady Bertram: From about the time of her entering the family, Lady Bertram, in consequence of a little ill-health, and a great deal of indolence, gave up the house in town, which she had been used to occupy every spring, and remained wholly in the country

I could probably go on, especially in the fragment of Sanditon. Now yes, Jane Austen may have been ignoring mental health problems that she couldn't have known about, but it's pretty clear she thinks these people are being silly. But not for Anne de Bourgh! I cannot find this sort of remark about "fancying" or anything. Instead, we have Maria and Elizabeth shocked at how small and sickly Anne looks"

"Only look at her. She is quite a little creature. Who would have thought she could be so thin and small!” (Maria Lucas)

Miss de Bourgh was pale and sickly: her features, though not plain, were insignificant; and she spoke very little, except in a low voice... (Elizabeth)

It's played straight! Anne is just sickly.

#jane austen #anne de bourgh #pride & prejudice #yeah I'm still going on about this #it bothers me a lot

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inkbutterflyuniverse · 3 months

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Because I'm (again) reading too many Pride & Prejudice fanfics here some memes.

The colonel is always placing bets on when Darcy will propose, and he always lose.

In a lot of fanfictions Darcy is equal to himself and always outdone himself to make Elizabeth hates him more.

And as readers, it can be very frustrating sometimes.

When they are courting at Pemberley and Georgiana is like "I like her I want her as my sister" and Darcy is like "well in fact I already proposed to her but she has every reason to refuse because..."

And at end of his story, Georgiana is taken aback by his stupidity.

Just Lady Catherine sending an angry letter when learning that Darcy is marrying someone else than his daughter.

Anne, in a lot of fic, doesn't even care about this marriage and is happy when he's marrying Elizabeth.

And the best for the end, Caroline ruining her reputation by making a fuss when learning about Darcy and Elizabeth.

Bonus point for when it happens in the middle of a big event where all Town is here, and when everyone sees her losing her mind and signing her social death.

#pride and prejudice #pride and prejudice fanfiction #pride and prejudice memes #mr darcy #elizabeth bennet #caroline bingley #anne de bourgh #lady catherine de bourgh #colonel fitzwilliam

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anghraine · 2 years

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This is really a meandering headcanon thing, but a P&P detail that I’ve been thinking about since ... approximately forever is the 12-year age gap between Darcy and Georgiana, and specifically: a) the reason for the age gap and b) the effect of that reason on the family.

It’s one thing to have a large age gap like that with a big sibling group, but it’s just the two of them, and Darcy emphasizes that he was an only child for a long time, so it doesn’t seem that there were other siblings between them who died in childhood, say.

The most obvious, and I think most common, explanation is that one of their parents had some sort of reproductive issue. Given that Lady Anne’s sister only has one child and these things can run in families, she’s the usual candidate. Maybe the problem had to do with conception, or maybe with carrying a fetus to term, who knows.

In either case, it could be that Darcy was born early in the senior Darcys’ marriage and they thought everything was fine at the time, and only realized afterwards that they’d been very lucky with him (but still, kept trying). Alternately, he might have been born after several increasingly anxious years and was welcomed with immense relief, and the lack of children for over ten years afterwards would only confirm how special his existence was.

I think the dynamic might be different depending on what the actual problem was. If the difficulty was in gestation rather than conception, Lady Anne probably had miscarriages—potentially one or more before Darcy’s birth, but almost certainly some (and quite possibly many) after it. If there were pregnancies before the one that resulted in him, then it’s possible that they didn’t actually expect that pregnancy to turn out any better, until it did.

This also makes the “engagement” between baby Darcy and baby Anne kind of interesting. Since they were in their cradles at the same time, they’re likely around the same age (one of Lady Catherine’s remarks implies IMO that Anne is slightly older, but it doesn’t really matter). That’s normally a minor detail. But if both Lady Catherine and Lady Anne had reproductive problems, then the births of two live children, at around the same time, might well have seemed pretty miraculous, and on top of that, it turns out that one is a boy and one is a girl. In this scenario, a lot of stars had to come into alignment to make that engagement happen at all.

And if the goal always was to unite the estates through Darcy and Anne’s marriage, that suggests that by this point, Lady Catherine did not expect to ever have a son, and possibly to ever have any children other than Anne. I mean, maybe she went through eighteenth-century childbirth once and was like “NEVER AGAIN” and Sir Lewis just went along with it. But I think it’s also possible that Anne was this miracle baby for Lady Catherine, that Darcy was the same for Lady Anne, and this deepened their conviction that it was Meant To Be.

(Note: Wickham mentions the rumors about Darcy and Anne marrying to prop up his Pemberley bona fides, which I think does suggest that it’s not all in Lady Catherine’s head, as is often suggested.)

Apart from that, I think the effect on Darcy himself is potentially intriguing and could vary depending on the particulars of what’s going on with Lady Anne. He wasn’t just the precious male heir, he was the precious only child, despite his father’s possible preference for young Wickham. If the trouble was with conception, it might well have seemed to Darcy like his mother’s pregnancy with Georgiana came out of nowhere and her entrance into his life was incredible.

On the other hand, if Lady Anne has had a bunch of miscarriages through his early childhood and possibly before it, by the time he’s twelve, he’s probably not expecting that this is going to end well, either, but then he has an actual living sister. For Darcy, the miracle baby is Georgiana.

Because Lady Anne is dead by P&P, seems to have been dead for awhile, and it seems likely enough that she had some vague health issue, it used to be pretty widely accepted that she died giving birth to Georgiana. We don’t actually know this and there were a lot of ways to die young or in middle age at the time, but it’s perfectly possible. However it happened, it does seem like Georgiana’s arrival into the family would have been a very big deal in the circumstances and that all this could contribute to Darcy’s immense affection for her.

(Of course, he could easily have resented her after being a coddled only child for 12 years and then having a new baby in the picture, esp if her birth also led to their mother’s death, but that’s not the kind of person he is.)

All of this is speculation, of course. I’ve also seen it suggested that the reason for the age gap is that Lady Anne and Mr Darcy simply stopped having sex after Darcy was born, and Georgiana is the result of an affair Lady Anne had much later. This is technically also consistent with canon and I do prefer an imperfect Lady Anne to an idealized maternal figure (esp since one of the only things we hear about her personality is Darcy’s implication that she was basically a good person but less amiable than his father). Once upon a time, I even wrote a Georgiana fic (unfinished, of course, and it’s not at AO3 iirc) with that premise.

There are other possibilities, too. That said, “Lady Anne and Lady Catherine had some genetically-linked health problem that interfered with pregnancy in some way” does make the most intuitive sense to me and I think is a more compelling story for Austen characters.

#someone on ao3 once said i obviously dislike lady anne bc i always write her as seriously flawed #ON THE CONTRARY this is an expression of my irrationally great love for her #whenever it was that she died i hope she lived long enough to see 12-y-o darcy holding baby georgiana ... ;_;#anghraine babbles #anghraine's headcanons #austen blogging #austen fanwank #lady anne blogging #literally and metaphorically!#fitzwilliam darcy #georgiana darcy #lady anne darcy #lady catherine de bourgh #mr darcy senior #anne de bourgh #long post #but it would have been longer if i got into all my headcanons about this >_>

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nooowestayandgetcaught · 4 months

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Wet Ink

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~1k, Caroline Bingley/Anne de Bourgh, G-rating, Canon AU Summary: Caroline does something highly unusual and improper, and it gains Anne's fascination.

#pride and prejudice #femslash #pride & prejudice #pride and predjudice 2005 #caroline bingley #anne de bourgh #p&p #p&p 2005 #femslash fanfic #femslash fic

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sophsship · 1 year

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Pride And Prejudice

(2005)

!SPOILER WARNING!

Do not proceed if you have not seen the movie.

Hi.

So, I had my doubts in wanting to write about such a spectacular story, for the simple fact that I have not finished the book yet.

But this masterpiece is just too beautiful to not be talked about.

I mean, I know I definitely am not the first one talking about this movie version of the story, written by the lovely Jane Austen, that has inspired so many people.

Let’s start from the fact that I love this movie.

It is just so calming, especially when it comes to the background music.

(Dario Marianelli be serving some wholesome romantic vibes)

For me, watching “Pride And Prejudice” is like eating a hot pancake with blueberries.

The plot is just so wonderful and stable, as expected from a Jane Austen novel.

The characters are all very well-written and well-portrayed in this version.

But honestly, I have no idea where Elizabeth gets the courage to be such a savage.

If she ever comes around I have to ask her to let me borrow some of that courage.

She absolutely got it from Mr. Bennet, one of my favourite characters in the entire novel.

I want to have the calm that he keeps when Mrs. Bennet goes crazy.

The Bennet sisters have all different personalities, which gives “Little Women” vibes.

I love Jane’s and Charles’s relationship.

THEY ARE JUST SO CUTE.

I do not understand why Caroline is always such a b*tch.

Why can she not just be happy for her brother??

I just hate her.

Like Lady Catherine.

Man, that woman needs to come down a bit.

I mean, I feel sorry for Anne.

What a poor girl.

Then there is Charlotte, the sweet bestie we all want.

(Or at least, I would)

I hate the fact that she has to marry Mr. Collins.

He is a neat but damn.

I think she could have had someone else.

But that is just my opinion.

And now we come to the man everyone loves and adores.

Fitzwilliam f*cking Darcy is one of the best fictional men in the world and I do not know anyone who is against this statement.

Not mentioning the fact that him being more introverted makes his character so relatable.

He is always there for his sister, he is secretly generous and he arranges all the final events that lead him to gain the courage to show his true feelings to Elizabeth.

Their romance is just so beautiful.

(Jane Austen really is the queen of enemies to lovers).

The places in this movie are just perfect.

Pemberley is *chef’s kiss*.

Eventually, I would like to add that this story is one of the best ever and I absolutely understand how it managed to become so renowned everywhere around the world.

This kind of stories are what makes us dreamers when it comes to romance, and everyone loves them.

I hope that future generations will also learn to appreciate and respect this fascinating tale.

Thank you for reading.

Have a good day!!

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bookfanficsthoughts · 9 months

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On Mr. Darcy's Matchmaker

Just a brief overview of this novel I read. Not gonna lie, I wanted to show this to the world and that is why I have made this side tumble account.

Title: Mr. Darcy's Matchmaker

Author: Summer Hanford

Link:

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Premise and A Brief Review A Pride and Prejudice Variation which I think has one of the best portrayal of Anne de Borough and where we see how human is all of the cast. With the first chapters of the cast's younger years (Both of Darcy's side and Elizabeth's side), we have more insights of the characters as we can directly compare them to how they were before; which part have stayed the same, which part have changed for the better and which part have changed for the worst. Each character has their own flavor and the plot of Elizabeth and Darcy's will they or won't they have a different flow with the intervention of their "matchmaker" Anne de Borough.

Though their matchmaker, dont be mistaken that Anne is just a bridesmaid plot device. No, she has her own thoughts and characters and carefully takes into account the events that are happening and how she can weave her own happiness. She is not the kind of matchmaker who micromanages those she has her eyes on and isn't exactly obsessed with her charges. She has her own life to live after all. She is not afraid to confront Darcy on his prejudices but has also grown to be a confidant of sorts of Elizabeth! I love love love her in this novel!

Anyway in this novel, young Anne had the maturity to know that Wickham might take advantage of the young Mr. Darcy and has an inkling of his rakish (the unattractive and compromising young ladies kind of) ways. As such, she has the best eyes in all of the novel lol.

A cute blurbs on the cast of characters!

Anne (confined in the small area of Rosings gave her insight in things that matter in life and made her know when and how to present her true thoughts and intentions),

Darcy ( Mainly his struggles to let go of prejudices ingrained in him since he was young and we also get an inventive insight on the reason of the fallout between Darcy and Wickham and why he didn't relent. ),

Elizabeth (As she is reflecting on her rejection of Mr. Darcy's proposal, circumstances have her stay with near vicinity of the man she rejected and said man's well connected aunt who knows of the proposal and vehemently opposes it. I like how headstrong Lizzy is here as we see her cleverly confront the barbs spoken by Lady Catherine. )

Colonel Fitzwilliam (what it means to return to society after military and searching for better future)

Lady Catherine (more cunning and charm and deviousness),

Mrs. Bennett (having her own pride and love for her family and daughters)

Kitty (is more observant than people are led to believe and though not knowing of the future, knows how to appreciate the happiness she can afford to take. )

That is all! I hope you guys liked it and put this novel into your to-read list!

#Pride and Prejudice #Pride and Prejudice Fanfiction #Mr. Darcy #elizabeth bennet #anne de bourgh #Pride and Prejudice variations #JAFF #P&P Fanfic #Summer Hanford #Mr. Darcy's Matchmaker

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lothiriel84 · 1 year

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Reserve and Respectability

Aroace-spec!Darcy, as seen through the eyes of those close to him.

A Pride and Prejudice ficlet. Aroace spectrum!Darcy.

On the eve of Fitzwilliam’s twelfth birthday, Mr Darcy summoned his son and heir to his study, and proceeded to enlighten him on creation’s greatest mystery, the act of procreation; he then made sure to impress upon the boy how it was his duty as a gentleman to attend to his own needs without imposing on vulnerable females within his employment, or – heaven forbid – ruining the reputation of unmarried ladies of good breeding.

Young Master Darcy listened very attentively, as he always did, and promised to do his best to comply with his father’s instructions. Then he begged leave to go and visit little Georgiana in the nursery, and the entire conversation was soon forgotten.

“Oh, yes, George, like that,” the milkmaid murmured encouragingly, and he dipped his head lower to press his mouth to her creamy bosom. As the son of Mr Darcy’s steward, he had his pick of pretty young females willing to share their favours with him, and he was determined to enjoy every second of it.

His hand was creeping steadily up under her skirts, and he had very nearly reached his goal when a pointed cough came from somewhere behind them, and Ann – or Mary, or whatever her name was – promptly let out a horrified shriek, pushing him away and hastily covering herself up in a belated attempt at modesty.

“Miss Parker, allow me to escort you back to your father’s,” Fitzwilliam Darcy had stated calmly, turning a cold glare on his childhood friend. George had glared right back, adjusted his ruffled clothes, and stalked back through the woods.

Just because the proud scion of the Darcy line was uptight enough to shun female company, it didn’t mean he was entitled to ruin everyone else’s fun. It would do him a world of good if someone were to teach him a much needed lesson, one day.

“She’s the most handsome woman I have ever seen,” Captain Fitzwilliam whispered in his cousin’s ear, turning a discreet glance across the room. “Surely even you cannot disagree on that.”

Darcy stiffened at his side, and replied in a distinctly offended voice. “Even I? And what could you possibly mean by that, Richard?”

He sighed, and made a mental note to watch his tongue more closely. Relations or not, it wouldn’t do for him to unwittingly insult a man of Darcy’s station; still, he valued their friendship too highly to let the matter slide completely, and as the elder between the two of them, it was his duty to guide his younger cousin where he could.

“Only that you don’t appear to take much pleasure in female company, that’s all.”

His cousin had the good grace to blush, but he could see the way his shoulder hunched, almost defensively. “If you mean to imply your brother was correct in his assumptions, I will have you know – ”

“Not at all,” he cut in with some urgency, raising a placating hand for good measure. “My brother was way out of line last night, and I do apologise for the way he conducted himself. Rest assured our father took it upon himself to check his behaviour in this regard.”

“Thank you,” Darcy replied stiffly, and it was testament to the length of their acquaintance that Richard was able to detect a modicum of warmth carefully disguised under the sharpness of his tone.

“Mama will hear none of it, as you can probably imagine, but I do not think I wish to marry at all,” Anne sighed, shaking her head somewhat dejectedly. “I do not feel strong enough to – to subject myself to a husband’s attentions, let alone providing him with the heir he surely requires. And I believe you, of all people, might understand how I feel.”

Her cousin pressed his hand to her own, and offered her one of his rare smiles. “Even your mother has no power to make you marry against your will. For my part, I will never consent to her scheme of uniting our estates in such a way, and she will eventually have to accept that.”

“Thank you, William,” she smiled weakly, leaning back against the couch and reaching for her smelling salts. “I wish you every joy.”

Never in all her – admittedly short – life had Georgiana Darcy experienced such grief as during the ride back to Pemberley after the whole Ramsgate debacle. Her dearest, most beloved brother had been sitting beside her the whole time, and yet, it was as if the distance between the two of them had been progressively increasing with every mile.

At last, when she felt like she couldn’t bear it any longer, she dared to glance up, and was met with a look of such undisguised sadness on her brother’s face that she all but cried out. “William, words cannot express how ashamed I am of causing you any pain, and I will not blame you, should you wish to send me somewhere far away from your sight.”

Her brother looked momentarily startled, and quickly reached between them to gather her hands in his own. “It is I, and I alone, who ought to be ashamed of myself, as I deserve the worst censure for failing in my duty to protect you.”

“Do not say so! How could I expect you to, when I was foolish enough to conceal my true intentions from you, and forgot myself so entirely as to throw all propriety to the wind for the sake of a mere infatuation? It’s a wonder you’re still willing to recognise me as your sister, for I am sure you would never conduct yourself in such an indecorous manner.”

“No more of that. You are the only family I have left, and the one I love more dearly in this world. If our dear parents were still with us, I feel sure they would have done better by you, but alas, I fear I share neither Father’s sense nor Mother’s sensibility when it comes to – matters of the heart.”

“What I have done to be blessed with such a kind and honourable brother, I do not know,” Georgiana declared in between her tears. “But I thank God every day for bestowing such a generous gift upon me.”

“Oh, come on, Darcy, it was just the one kiss,” Charles Bingley protested most vehemently, as his friend closed the door to the study and stood before him with an air of cool disapproval.

“Yes, I am sure that is why Miss Harriet was half reclining on the chaise, with her stays untied and her petticoats all bunched up around her knees. You do realise, had anyone else walked in the way I did, you would have had no choice but to marry her, do you?”

Bingley paled a little at such an unappealing prospect – yes, Miss Harriet was charming, and he had been more than pleased with how willingly she had welcomed his attentions, but – marriage was for all one’s life, and he couldn’t see himself embarking upon such an endeavour anytime soon.

“I will have to be more careful in the future, that is clear,” he sighed, valiantly ignoring the blush that was undoubtedly colouring his cheeks at this very moment. “But I am only flesh and blood, after all, and I feel sure you understand – ”

“I do nothing of the sort,” Darcy replied haughtily, and for a moment there, Charles was left to wonder whether the rumours concerning his friend were, in fact, much closer to the mark than he ever had reason to suspect.

“Oh, Mr Darcy, if only you could bring yourself to dance, I feel sure you would put everyone else in the room to shame.”

If the man at her side all but winced, she put it down to the foul mood he had appeared to be in all week. Caroline Bingley felt nothing but optimistic when it came to her pursuit of Mr Darcy’s hand and heart – well, she could do without his heart, she thought, if only he could bring himself to overcome his natural reserve and acknowledge the mutual advantages of choosing her as new mistress of Pemberley – and the sooner she could get him to offer for her, the better.

“I thank you, Miss Bingley, but as I fear I would not do my partner justice in my present state, I shall not impose my poor company on any of the ladies present at this ball.”

Caroline sighed – making sure to put her décolletage to full advantage – and resigned herself to yet another disappointing evening.

“Fitzwilliam!” Elizabeth Darcy laughed giddily as her husband leaned down to press a heated kiss to the side of her neck. “You promised you would behave.”

“I’m sorry, my love, you look way too appealing in this dress. It ought not to be allowed.”

“And whose fault is that, I wonder?” she chided him, still laughing. “I seem to remember a certain gentleman having it made most especially, and sending for it all the way from London.”

“Mmm. Such a scoundrel,” Fitzwilliam murmured, his fingers tracing a deliberately teasing pattern along the underside of her breast. “Whoever he is, I should call him out for being so daring as to disrespect my wife like that.”

Elizabeth closed her eyes momentarily, but she knew she was fighting a losing battle, and when all was said and done, it was one defeat she was most willing to concede. “You ought to see to your wife, Sir, for I have reason to believe she will disport herself most wantonly, should you fail to check her.”

“Minx,” her husband said with the utmost delight, and proceeded to demonstrate just how much he appreciated the way her dress put her pleasing figure to the best of advantages.

Bennet Darcy frowned as his father calmly explained everything there was to know about the caring of sheep, and how – as his eldest son, and the heir to the estate – he was expected to be knowledgeable on such matters. At nine years of age, it had never come upon him to question where lambs came from, until they had happen to be riding along a field where a ram was busy seeing to the ewes, and his father had thought it prudent to talk his son through the entire process of lambing.

“Father?” he ventured to ask at length, as a most peculiar thought dawned upon him. “Is that how you got my new brother or sister into Mama’s stomach, as well?”

Ben was suddenly faced with the most incongruous sight of his father’s cheeks colouring to an alarming shade of pink. “I – that is, well – your mother will be much better at explaining than I am, I feel.”

“I will ask her, then,” he nodded, and spurred his pony back to a trot.

#Pride and Prejudice #Mr Darcy #Mr Darcy's father #George Wickham #Colonel Fitzwilliam #Anne de Bourgh #Georgiana Darcy #Charles Bingley #Caroline Bingley #Elizabeth Bennet #original child #Elizabeth/Darcy #aromantic spectrum #asexual spectrum #aroace spectrum headcanon #I wrote a thing #Pride and Aroace-spec (collection)

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whats-in-a-sentence · 9 days

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But before they heard again from Mr. Gardiner, a letter arrived for their father, from a different quarter, from Mr. Collins; which, as Jane had received directions to open all that came for him in his absence, she accordingly read; and Elizabeth, who knew what curiosities his letters always were, looked over her, and read it likewise. It was as follows:

My dear Sir,

I feel myself called upon, by our relationship, and my situation in life, to condole with you on the grievous affliction you are now suffering under, of which we were yesterday informed by a letter from Hertfordshire. Be assured, my dear sir, that Mrs. Collins and myself sincerely sympathise with you and all your respectable family, in your present distress, which must be of the bitterest kind, because proceeding from a cause which no time can remove. No arguments shall be wanting on my party that can alleviate so severe a misfortune – or that may comfort you, under a circumstance that must be of all others the most afflicting to a parent's mind. The death of your daughter would have been a blessing in comparison of this. And it is the more to be lamented, because there is reason to suppose as my dear Charlotte informs me, that this licentiousness of behaviour in your daughter has proceeded from a faulty degree of indulgence; though, at the same time, for the consolation of yourself and Mrs. Bennet, I am inclined to think that her own disposition must be naturally bad, or she could not be guilty of such an enormity, at so early an age. Howsoever that may be, you are grievously to be pitied; in which opinion I am not only joined by Mrs. Collins, but likewise by Lady Catherine and her daughter, to whom I have related the affair. They agree with me in apprehending that this false step in one daughter will be injurious to the fortunes of all the others; for who, as Lady Catherine herself condescendingly says, will connect themselves with such a family? And this consideration leads me moreover to reflect, with augmented satisfaction, on a certain event of last November; for had it been otherwise, I must have been involved in all your sorrow and disgrace. Let me then advise you, dear sir, to console yourself as much as possible, to throw off your unworthy child from your affection for ever, and leave her to reap the fruits of her own heinous offense.

I am, dear sir, &c. &c.

"Pride and Prejudice" - Jane Austen

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whenthegoldrays · 1 month

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Bro the reason I’m all sickly and frail is I stay up til ungodly hours on tumblr dot com

#turning into anne de bourgh over here #actually as soon as the current round of the austen men poll ends I’m deleting tumblr and not coming back til ttpd release week #(which ik is only like a two week hiatus but still)#and even then I’ll try to keep my screen time way down because this is getting out of hand #elly's posts

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dandylion-s · 9 months

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I think we should bring jane austen back to life so she can see the service that pride and prejudice adaptations do for depressed girls.

#she could also write pride and prejudice 2 kitty's revenge #in which kitty bennet becomes a proto catwoman and kills Catherine de bourgh #and frees anne to be a rich fancy lady #pride and prejudice #jane austen

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bethanydelleman · 1 year

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Okay totally crazy theory: Wickham disparages everyone that he dislikes during Ch 16. He mostly dislikes people for harming his own fortunes. We know he tried to marry Georgiana and was prevented so he smears her too.

But we don't know any specific slight from Lady Catherine or Anne de Bourgh and they are also attacked. What if Wickham tried to make a pass at Anne and got throw out on the street? Hilarious possible backstory, where Lady Catherine gets to exercise her disgusted speech muscles.

#JAFF #go ahead and steal my idea I'm doing nothing with it #wickham #jane austen #pride and prejudice #lady catherine #anne de bourgh #georgiana darcy

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thefancyspin · 9 months

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when you think you relate to elizabeth bennett, but you're actually more like anne de bourgh. sick, and tired, and only here because your mother made you.

#pride and prejudice 2005 #pride and prejudice #jane austen

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anghraine · 1 year

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And the 5k update of Love, Pride & Delicacy is up at AO3!

Alas, Charlotte’s good sense briefly failed her;—she mentioned Lady Catherine’s existence in passing.

“Will she be here long?” Elizabeth asked.

“I believe so,” said Charlotte.

“Yes, Miss Elizabeth, you will have the honour of seeing Lady Catherine de Bourgh on the ensuing Sunday at church,” said Mr Collins, with greater enthusiasm than anything he had directed at Charlotte, “and I need not say you will be delighted with her.”

But of course, he did need to say.

#anghraine babbles #fic talk #fic talk: love pride and delicacy #fic: love pride and delicacy #austen blogging #elizabeth bennet #lady catherine de bourgh #charlotte lucas #william collins #sir william lucas #maria lucas #anne de bourgh #and in absentia (one last time)#catherine darcy #genderbending

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whetstonefires · 4 months

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Oh yeah I recently had a moment of realization, which is that Lady Catherine's main underlying motive for pushing the Darcy/Anne marriage isn't actually her ideas about keeping property in the family etc, or her agreement with her late sister at all.

The number one reason she's so wedded to it is the same basic reason Mrs. Bennet is so eager to have Mr. Collins as a son-in-law.

Because while Rosings isn't entailed, which has allowed her to lady it over the demesne all this time on the strength of her daughter's status as heiress, property law is such that as soon as there's a man in the family--as soon as Anne weds--it will all belong to him.

And while she won't be forced to find other lodging or anything unless a truly dreadful groom winkles his way in, she'll no longer be the mistress of the place as she has been all this time, not even as much the mistress as she was before she was widowed, because that will be Anne's place now. She will be only the mother of the wife of the master of Rosings.

And there is not likely to be any great supply of fellows of sufficient distinction and lineage to meet her high standards, who will want Anne (whose main appeal is her property), who will also allow their mother-in-law to rule the roost.

Darcy is a known quantity, who doesn't especially want Rosings and can be relied upon to prioritize Pemberley. And he is very respectful of his honorable aunt. Lady Catherine makes it clear she believes her sway over him is considerably higher than it actually is, because he values his family so highly and hates a fuss, so she has always always gotten her way with him before.

If she could get Anne married to Darcy, then she could fulfill her maternal obligation to Anne, and her lineal obligations to the de Bourghs and the Fitzwilliams. Without having to give hardly anything up herself.

And it's really cool how it's set up like this! Because the fact that the system is rigged so a woman fulfilling her duties to family and society inherently obliterates any power base of her own is totally fucked up, and wanting to resist that is understandable and sympathetic.

But as is so often the case, the easiest way to resist or evade such compulsions and injustices is by finding a way to exploit other people, and gain your own security and independence by taking theirs away.

And so Lady Catherine, like Mrs. Bennet, is ultimately a tacky and appallingly selfish human being.

#hoc est meum #pride and prejudice #lady catherine de bourgh #gender #inheritance law #Austen engages so delicately with human motivation #with the drama that exists perfectly well in the world without having to contrive transgressive melodramas #when the normal systemic injustices of society operating as intended #are quite upsetting enough

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jenneferofjengaberg · 2 years

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I think the fundamental issue with Anne Elliot’s character in Persuasion is that some people (eg. idiots writing a screenplay for Netflix because an algorithm told them to) think the fact that Anne in the novel is passive, meek, and self-effacing, is only because she’s a woman in 1817 who is oh so oppressed! Which is like, completely ignorant of the fact that for the time period, she occupies a place of enormous privilege. She’s the white daughter of a wealthy white land-owning male, and while she can’t vote or work, she’s still pretty high up on that regency hierarchy. There’s no reason to conclude that all, or even most, of her personality is due to being a woman in a patriarchal society, and not just her natural disposition.

This is obvious if you’ve read Austen’s novels, and actually find out that plenty of women are NOT passive, meek, and self-effacing (Elizabeth Bennet, Emma Woodhouse, Lady Catherine de Bourgh, etc.). Even within Persuasion itself, there are other women who are not, like both of Anne’s sisters, Lady Russell, and Mrs. Croft. And since nearly all of Austen’s female characters occupy a similar social position, you can assume that they all face nearly identical gendered oppression. And yet somehow still ended up with distinct personalities!

Austen recognizes and admires Anne’s personality, the parts that are compassionate, kind, polite, and modest (in the sense of being unconceited, not sexually). Austen does not see these as negative traits, and neither should the reader.

But, for Austen, moderation is the key to all things, and this is a theme that crops up in a lot of her novels. The whole premise of Persuasion is that you can take even positive traits too far. Anne is a decent and unselfish person, willing to sacrifice her own comfort for others. But before the novel begins, she allows herself to be persuaded to act against her own personal inclinations, in order to please her friends and family. This causes both she and Wentworth a lot of misery, certainly much more pain and distress than would have been suffered by her friends and family if she had just married Wentworth in the first place.

What Austen is saying is that it’s fine, and even admirable, to be unassuming and selfless, if that’s your natural personality, but that you should take care to not let that natural inclination to please others interfere with your own happiness. That in some cases, doing so actually causes more suffering than just doing what is best for yourself. It’s basically a guide for women like Anne, praising them for the sweet and noble aspects in their natures, while warning them to still take care of themselves.

Turning the character into a secret girlboss who’s just living in the wrong century, completely erases this very important theme, and one that resonates even with many modern women, who despite Hollywood’s opinion on the matter, are not all snarky, confident, and assertive. There’s nothing wrong with women who are those things, but women are people, and therefore their personalities vary to a near infinite degree.

The current vogue for only allowing female characters who are quirky, sassy, and confident is as deeply sexist as the idea that only women who are demure, meek, and self-effacing are acceptable. And Austen, a woman born in 1775, never did that. She wrote female characters with a wide variety of personalities and saw the worth (and the foibles) in all of them, from Elizabeth Bennet to Anne Elliot. No two were alike, but they all had something to offer, and a voice that deserved to heard.

#text #persuasion #anne elliot #jane austen #netflix #finally watched that disaster of a persuasion adaptation and had thoughts #my words

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journalofanoldsoul · 10 months

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Welcome to Austenland! (Rising Sign)

Aries Rising - Elizabeth Bennet (Pride and Prejudice): Aries Rising individuals are known for their independent spirit, assertiveness, and quick wit. Elizabeth Bennet embodies these traits with her strong-minded nature, confident demeanor, and spirited conversations.

Taurus Rising - Elinor Dashwood (Sense and Sensibility): Taurus Rising individuals are often practical, reliable, and grounded. Elinor Dashwood exemplifies these qualities through her sensible and level-headed approach to life's challenges, as well as her steadfast loyalty to her family.

Gemini Rising - Emma Woodhouse (Emma): Gemini Rising individuals are known for their wit, adaptability, and sociability. Emma Woodhouse reflects these traits with her lively personality, love for matchmaking and socializing, and her ability to engage in clever and animated conversations.

Cancer Rising - Fanny Price (Mansfield Park): Cancer Rising individuals are often nurturing, sensitive, and have a strong sense of family and home. Fanny Price embodies these qualities with her compassionate nature, deep emotional connection to her loved ones, and her appreciation for a stable and secure home environment.

Leo Rising - Catherine Morland (Northanger Abbey): Leo Rising individuals are charismatic, confident, and have a flair for the dramatic. Catherine Morland showcases these traits through her vivacious imagination, natural charm, and her ability to captivate others with her storytelling.

Virgo Rising - Anne Elliot (Persuasion): Virgo Rising individuals are typically detail-oriented, practical, and possess a keen eye for perfection. Anne Elliot reflects these traits through her conscientious nature, careful decision-making, and her attention to the details of social propriety.

Libra Rising - Jane Bennet (Pride and Prejudice): Libra Rising individuals are known for their diplomacy, charm, and sense of harmony. Jane Bennet embodies these qualities with her graceful demeanor, ability to see the best in others, and her desire for harmonious relationships.

Scorpio Rising - Marianne Dashwood (Sense and Sensibility): Scorpio Rising individuals are often intense, passionate, and have a deep emotional nature. Marianne Dashwood reflects these traits through her romantic ideals, emotional depth, and her ability to experience life's highs and lows with great intensity.

Sagittarius Rising - Mr. Knightley (Emma): Sagittarius Rising individuals are adventurous, open-minded, and have a love for exploration. Mr. Knightley embodies these traits with his well-traveled background, broad perspective on life, and his willingness to challenge Emma's misguided judgments.

Capricorn Rising - Eleanor Tilney (Northanger Abbey): Capricorn Rising individuals are often disciplined, responsible, and possess a strong sense of duty. Eleanor Tilney showcases these traits with her composed demeanor, practical approach to life, and her commitment to fulfilling her societal obligations.

Aquarius Rising - Colonel Brandon (Sense and Sensibility): Aquarius Rising individuals are typically independent, unconventional, and possess a unique perspective on the world. Colonel Brandon reflects these traits through his quiet strength, intellectual nature, and his ability to challenge societal norms.

Pisces Rising - Anne de Bourgh (Pride and Prejudice): Pisces Rising individuals are often dreamy, sensitive, and have a gentle disposition. Anne de Bourgh embodies these traits with her reserved and ethereal nature, delicate health, and her tendency to withdraw from social interactions.

Please note that the associations provided are based on general character traits and archetypes associated with each rising sign. Individual variations and interpretations can exist within each rising sign, and characters in Jane Austen's novels are complex and multifaceted, embodying various qualities beyond their rising sign traits.

Stay tune for more astro posts.

xoxo J.

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