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blueberry-bubbles130 · 1 year

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So I've been reading a few of the Barbie Princess and the Pauper essays that are floating around the internet (mostly Tumblr) and I've got a theory that Preminger killed the King, before the movie takes place.

First of all I'd like to give a lot of credit and a big thank you to @rin-the-shadow for their brilliant analysis of the timeline of the movie that helped me massively in figuring out when Preminger would have killed the king for the theory. Since the ages of the characters are not stated anywhere, or even implied, within the movie itself. So there's not a lot to work with in terms of timing.

I'd also like to thank my two close friends who helped me come up with this theory.

So first for a bit of a background, in the movie the King isn't mentioned at all, and we only see him once at the beginning of the movie, which is in the prologue. From this evidence, it's incredibly safe to say he is dead by the time the movie takes place. Now If we look at Rin's analysis and the evidence they use from the movie, they state Preminger comes into the role of Queen Genevieve's advisor when Annaliese is around 6 years old.

From here the timeline becomes messy, as we don't know when Julian becomes the tutor to Annaliese. I'm assuming that he becomes her tutor at least 3-5 years before the movie begins. This is a bit clearer if we again look at Rin's analysis, in which they theorise about the difference in time between Julian and Preminger's arrival at the palace: as they state with more movie evidence in which Julian can remember living in the village. As well as this Annaliese and Julian are really close at the beginning of the movie, which shows they've gotten to know each other really well. So I think that Julian is a bit older than Annaliese, not by much though, so I'm going to say he's about 2 years older than Annaliese.

This leaves about 5-6 years maximum for Preminger to get rid of any evidence he may still have lying around from him murdering the King, from him coming to the castle to Julian's arrival at the palace.

So for the theory itself, I think that Preminger murdered the King a year or two into his role as the Royal Advisor. Now you may be asking why Preminger would kill the King?

That's because I think the King was incredibly close to discovering Preminger's plan to steal the gold, so he decides to murder him in order to truly get rid of him, and keep his plan secret. This is because the King was probably the smartest out of him and Genevieve at the time, therefore the King would question Preminger more. And lets be real for a moment he probably realised that Preminger is clearly evil. While Annaliese would be about 7 or 8 according to the timeline, so she'd be too young at the time and less of a concern to Preminger.

Now by doing this, Preminger in fact gets a few things out of murdering the king. The main one being that he can keep his plan secret much longer, allowing him a greater chance at succeeding. The second thing he gets out of this, is now an increase of power through Queen Genevieve.

Throughout the movie, it's shown that Preminger has Queen Genevieve completely under his thumb, a massive example being when he proposes to her (we'll be coming back to this piece of evidence later). And from this we can assume that for a while before the start of the movie, Preminger was essentially making the decisions for the Kingdom while manipulating Genevieve into agreeing with him. Or making it look like she's the one truly making the decisions. (Because as much as I love Genevieve, it's clearly shown, at best she's completely dependent upon Preminger, and at worst dumb on her own)

Once Preminger kills the King this leaves grieving Annaliese and a vulnerable Queen Genevieve. She's now a widow, with a kingdom and a child to not only look after, but make sure she's an experienced heir to the throne. On top of that she's going to be grieving and that's going to make things a lot harder for her.

This is where Preminger's manipulation of Queen Genevieve truly begins. Through her grief Preminger can manipulate her by making it seem like he's helping her work through her grief, while also making it seem like he's the answer to her problems of taking care of the kingdom. As a result this increases the power and wealth Preminger holds, whilst making Queen Genevieve completely dependent on him over time.

This leaves the timeline looking like this:

.Genevieve and the King become a couple

.Annaliese is born

.Preminger is hired as the Royal Advisor when Annaliese is about 6

.The King is murdered by Preminger when Annaliese is about 7 or 8

.Julian is hired

.The events of the movie happen

All that is left now is to figure out how the King was murdered. Now if you've seen the movie or have seen a review, you know that when he has to, Preminger is 100% willing to murder people. This is shown when he tries to murder Annaliese and Julian by causing a cave-in, within the Royal Mine. Which happens because Julian and Annaliese are smart enough to realise that Preminger is evil. And by this point murder is Preminger's only option to secure his plan.

The evidence is also important, as it reinforces how experienced Preminger is when it comes to manipulating Genevieve, because the next two scenes are when Preminger exposes Erika and then the proposal scene. The proposal scene shows how he uses Genevieve's own grief against her, to marry her in order to become king (and completely disregarding any emotions she may have about this situation). It not only shows that he has total power over her, since she doesn't even make a verbal response she just turns around and holds her hand out for the ring to be placed on her finger. It also shows that he is very used to doing this and knows that in this situation all he has to do is present himself as the solution to her problem. But this time he's gotten so desperate and thinks that he's won so he doesn't even bother hiding his evil intent from Genevieve. As by this point he's managed to figuratively and literally back her into a corner where he is her only option.

Going back to how Preminger murdered the King, he has a few options for how he can do it.

He can make it look like an accident or natural causes

He can make it look like someone else murdered him

Not care at all how it looks and get rid of the evidence later

Again from looking at the movie, when he tries to murder Annaliese and Julian by collapsing the mine, he at least tries to make it look somewhat like an accident (at least I think he does, please correct me if I'm wrong). So I'm more inclined to go with option 1 for his method. We also have to remember that the movie is set loosley somewhere in the 16th century. So there's more ways to get away with a crime, and it's before Julian arrives at the palace, meaning Preminger has less to worry about when he commits the murder.

Preminger also seems like the type to not have much physical involvement in a murder, that is yet again shown in the mine collapse scene. So I'm going to say that Preminger most likely poisoned the king.

This is because poison was widely available at the time, with apothecaries selling poisons as some poisons had functions apart from murder. This means that he can easily get it and get more if he ever needs to.

So to summarise the theory, Preminger murders the King because he's coming too close to discovering Preminger's plan to gain power and chooses to kill him by poison. This leaves Genevieve vulnerable to Preminger's manipulation that while not making him just yet, gives him a bigger increase of power while pushing his plan further along. Then the events of the movie occur that force him to change his plans and in turn bring about Preminger's downfall and defeat.

So that's it! Sorry this got a bit long.

Thanks for listening to my rambles.

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dragonfly0808 · 1 year

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So I just rewatched Barbie The Princess and the Pauper and HOLY SHIT that movie has no right to still be that fucking good, I need to rant.

As a musical lover, this was perfection. Like, every single song was a Bop?!

Free is the perfect beginning to the movie, we see the POV’s from Anneliese and Erika and how, while they both long for their respective version of freedom, they understand their responsabilities and why they just can’t be as free as they’d like to be.

Then… How Could I Refuse? May be my new fave villain song holy shit, no wonder it got a reprise. I love the villain, he’s the perfect amount of ridiculous but also low-key competent.

I Am A Girl Like You. This is lit the only real interaction between Erika and Anneliese but it was just so wholesome and so perfect and just *squeals* I love it. They just click as besties.

To Be a Princess. Julian and Erika are the real besties of this movie, no I will not be taking criticism. Also, Julian’s voice cracking in the middle of admiring and simping for Anneliese was comedy gold. They’re just the best together.

The Cat’s Meow. This had no right to be this fucking good. THIS IS A SONG ABOUT A CAT THAT BARKS WHY THE FUCK WAS I ON THE VERGE OF TEARS?! Also, Dominick is just… the best King he’s just… ugh I love him. And Barky is just… I love him so much.

If You Love Me For Me. I can’t believe Erika and Dominick invented romance. Like, I ship Julian and Anneliese, they’re cute, but Erika and Dominick stole the show, I’ll explain more later.

Now:

Anneliese, I love Anneliese… that’s kinda it. I feel like she didn’t get enough time to shine for me. Don’t get me wrong, I love her scenes, especially watching her be a science girlie and outsmart everyone were great, but I don’t feel that strongly about her. I like her, she’s awesome, that’s it.

Erika, I fucking love Erika. She’s just so… fun? Like, she has a good backstory and motivations, she has big dreams that she refuses to let go of but she’s also just so selfless, like, she knows she could get in huge trouble for pretending to be Anneliese but still does it cause she thinks it’s the right thing to do. Idk, I just adore her.

Julian and Dominick, I love Julian, he’s just a goofy, hopeless romantic. I love his bond with Anneliese and that he’s also pretty smart, if a bit more impulsive than Anneliese. And Dominick, DOMINICK, I know that he has very few scenes but Idk how to explain just how much he just steals the show for me. He’s just best boy.

Julian and Anneliese are so cute, they just make sense. I love that they both just kinda… already knew that they were in love but just didn’t say anything due to her status. But they’d do anything for each other and I am here for it.

Erika and Dominick… they have my heart. They’re more of, almost love at first sight, they have an instant connection and it’s just adorable. But what I love the most about them is that when everything is over and Erika’s debt is paid, she knows that she can’t just marry Dominick, she wants to finally live her dream. And Dominick understand this and just asks her to think about coming back some day.

Gives her an engagement ring, “No promises?” “I’ll take my chances.” SOMEBODY SEDATE ME

And AFTER living her dream, Erika does come back to him and it’s just… AAAAAAHHHHHHH

But yeah anyways… I loved it just as much (if not more) than when I was a kid.

Also, the animated bloopers continue to be iconic. Erika’s phone ringing int he middle of a romantic scene? Amazing. Julian randomly dance breaking in the middle of To Be a Princess? Defined my childhood

#the princess and the pauper #barbie #barbie the princess and the pauper #barbie anneliese #barbie erika #barbie julian #barbie dominick

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barbie-movie-confessions-blog · 2 years

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Only now have I realized most of my cartoon crushes when I was young were Barbie characters. I used to have a mega crush on Nalu, Antonio, Julian, Derek, and Captain Candy.

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scrimbler · 9 months

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#chief obrien #miles obrien #ds9 #i made this while listening to barbie girl on repeat #hes so barbie girl #this is how i cope after just watching hard time #star trek #julian bashir #they are besties #tng #deep space nine #scrimbled

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yuckyuckles · 12 days

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oops

edit: Hi yall, It got pointed out to me that I made bashir a lighter skin tone then I should of. I saw that they had a point so I decided to redo the drawing and edit the post (it's currently replaced if your reading this message). Sorry that I just got around to it, I work weekends so I couldent change it as quick as I wanted to.

I know it wont change any previous reblogs but hopefully future art enjoyers will have a better experience. So a big thanks to @renika0909-blog :)

I also want to do some studies of Bashir as I realised I have a blind spot skin tone wise that I want to get better at. I'll post them on here so yall can enjoy :)

#ds9 #star trek ds9 #star trek #my art #artists on tumblr #garashir #elim garak #julian bashir #ds9 fanart #barbie meme #better late than never #had this in my wips for at least a year now

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dreamlesson · 1 year

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help i can’t stop making these

#DS9 #deep space 9 #barbie #barbie movie #star trek #star trek ds9 #deep space nine #julian bashir #worf #jadzia dax #kira nerys

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missmacfire · 1 year

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#star trek ds9 #star trek #garak x bashir #garak #julian bashir #garashir #barbie meme

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lesbospirk · 3 months

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Surprise! A little gift to @britishbilliee for the @startrekwintergiftexchange . You said you wanted anything, so I gave you Everything (and Garak).

#my art #star trek #deep space nine #ds9 #elim garak #garak x bashir #julian bashir #barbie #gift exchange #i have never drawn a cardassian in my life... i hope he looks okay #garashir

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heftmanrhamm · 9 months

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What are they doing in there and how did they get there??? Ghosts in the Barbie™ movie promotional box! 🩷🩷🩷🩷💖💖💖💖

#bbc ghosts #bbc ghosts fanart #julian fawcett #thomas thorne #bbc ghosts robin #the captain ghosts #the captain #drawing #Barbie #pat butcher #fanny button #alison cooper #been obsessed with Barbie movie recently #barbie movie #six idiots #Fanny wants to join in #but she thinks it's unladylike #she really wants to join in though #my art

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saltseashark · 3 months

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space airport show :-)

#deep space nine #benjamin sisko #kira nerys #odo ds9 #quark ds9 #miles obrien #worf ds9 #julian bashir #elim garak #aaaaaaaaand OTHERS. LOL #sorry there are so many as you can see ds9 has captured me heart and soul #my art #like what a lovely ensemble!!! what a buncha guys!!!!! theyre all so Fun -w- i dont have anyone i dont like and playing ship darts with the #is so great. whacks them around like barbie dolls #plus im wayyy more into making comics now all of a sudden. things that have not happened since the year 2019. amazing. whats next will he #make an animatic again. lord knows

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gayroman · 1 year

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the homoeroticism of being in a band

brooklyn baby, lana del rey / untitled (you construct intricate rituals), barbara kruger / fabrizio moretti and julian casablancas of the strokes / julian casablancas and albert hammond jr. of the strokes / mr schwartz, arctic monkeys / boygenius: the film, directed by kristen stewart / catapult, arctic monkeys / alex turner and miles kane of the last shadow puppets for everything you've come to expect / driving, not washing, richard siken / the hours and times, directed by christopher munch / sue zhao / the dream synopsis, the last shadow puppets / the last shadow puppets live at the catalyst, 2016 / august, taylor swift / the predatory wasp of the palisades is out to get us!, sufjan stevens / the strokes at the troubadour, 2001 / velvet goldmine, directed by todd haynes / because dreaming costs money my dear, mitski / boygenius for rolling stone magazine / the last shadow puppets live at alexandra palace, london, 2016 / untitled / the dogs i have kissed, trista mateer / strangers, ethel cain / untitled (cont.)

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userotp · 9 months

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Barbie as the Princess and the Pauper (2004) dir. William Lau

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eddisaurus · 9 months

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how i think a ghosts movie night watching barbie would go

fanny would be sobbing over the message, seeing as she was refused a proper career and good life because of the patriarchy

kitty would love the colours and the outfits and beg alison to buy her a barbie, shed also have a crush on margot robbie.

thomas would think he gets it but completely take it the wrong way, just like ken did with the patriarchy and just go on about button house being the perfect mojo dojo casa house. would have a crush on ken.

robin would really like it and think hed be great at beach

julian would be saying things about how beautiful margot robbie is the entire way through and then at the end just say that he didnt get it and then go on about something defending the patriarchy (everyone tells him to shut the fuck up)

humphrey would think it delightful, and would sing the songs from the soundtrack making it very easy to find wherever hed been dropped

pat would love the outfits and come away from it a changed man, hed say something to the girls for months after about supporting women and whenever theyd get spoken over by one of the boys (usually julian or thomas) hed say something about the boys just proving the point about men . he means well.

captain would be in tears by the end and just insist it was dust in the air. ghostly dust. would have a crush on ken.

mary would become obsessed with it just like she did loose women, would make her feel empowered.

#bbc ghosts #ghosts #barbie #thomas thorne #fanny button #julian fawcett #robin #pat butcher #the captain #kitty #mary #humphrey bone #six idiots

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joes-eyelashes · 3 months

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