#because look at them in season two!

[im-the-queen-of-stardust]

We all know the pain of being in small fandoms where you sometimes quite literally read every single fic available with your favourite character. But no one talks about the struggle of the big fandom with loads of fics but you don't like how a huge part of them portray the character and the relationships. Because you sift through pages upon pages trying to find one of the fic writers that have at least a similar opinion about the characters to yours. And it's impossible to filter! Maybe a bit easier if you're looking for something specific but if you're just looking for anything how do you exclude dodgy characterisation?!

#this can be about any fandom #but its actually about doctor who #specifically tenrose #like the biggest ship and its so hard for me to find fics that i like #they either sexualise their relationship too much #or make it to angsty and unrequited #because look at them in season two! #both of them know that the other loves them #more or less i mean of course there's uncertainty #but not that much #im sorry dont mind me im just ranting #like its a gift to get to read fanfiction at all #i love the whole system fandom is great #but the struggle is still real #or maybe this is just a me problem #doctor who #tenrose #ao3 #maybe i should actually try looking for fics on fanfiction.net #but the filter system is atrocious...

[spielzeugkaiser]

How it started-

How it's going!! They are a family and I am!!! also draw the hug you want to see in the show but they are forgiven because them meeting in brokilon was still soooo tender my HEART-

#the witcher season 3 #the witcher #geralt of rivia #geraskier #jaskier #the witcher spoilers #(at least discussed in the text) #they've come such a long way and I'm still sitting here like 🥺🥺🥺 #man if you think of the timeline (which is so whack) Geralt and Jaskier have SEEN things #they have been going on for more than twenty years #they are FAMILY and that gets me so bad and I'll draw the whole squad probably tomorrow but!! look at them #somehow the end of season 3 is everything I wanted from season 1 when it came to those two because it had some S1 vibes again with the duo! #but it was so much more heartfelt and tender and not even an ounce of Geralt being seemingly annoyed of Jaskier just- #clenches fist #I'm so basic for still loving them so much but I simply do and will never stop 😔 #but I gotta say I loved the yenralt this season too I can finally see it and it was very sweet at times

[littlebitofdnd]

Sandra-Lynn and Sklonda are having a "What Do We Do About Kristen" phone call as we speak

#dimension 20 #dimension 20 spoilers #brennan lee mulligan #fantasy high #fantasy high junior year #d20 fantasy high #dimension 20 fhjy #d20 fhjy #fhjy spoilers #fhjy #sklonda gukgak #sandra lynn faeth #riz gukgak #fig faeth #kristen applebees #like kristen IS a good friend and she DOES appreciate riz and fig but she is a mess #like as mothers of two deeply troubled children it makes sense they're comcerned #if my daughter the self-sacrificing ticking time bomb said she was ignoring a CURSE because she was busy with her friend's campaign??? #or if my son needed me to pull over to take a nap because the SAME GIRL was stressing him out so much?? #i think because we live outside the universe and love kristen it's easy to forget #kristen went from being the 'good kid' that the bad kids corrupted to the bad influence that worries their mothers #thinking about ally saying that kristen this season is when chaos is no longer cute #speaking of which this scene did make me realize how little the Thistlesprings check up on gorgug #ik they're trying though so imma give them a pass #like kristen has NO proper guidance on how to enter adulthood #i GUESS jawbone but Jawbone isn't raising her so much as he is housing her #What Kristen REALLY needs is to have one singular adult want to be her parent #She doesn't HAVE a proper sandra lynn or sklonda checking in on her #she has her ex-girlfriend's uncle #if kristen had someone looking out for her we wouldn't BE in this situation

[carolperkinsexgirlfriend]

Steddie Upside-Down AU Part 87

Part 1 Part 86

Mom’s hovering in front of the door, a knife in her hand, trying to get the rest of them to get away from the window. It’s not working. If anything, Max’s nose only presses more firmly to the glass with every request she makes.

Will’s hovering just behind her, desperate to keep Steve and Eddie in his line of sight. He can just barely see the wisp of a curl through the side window of the van, bouncing as Eddie moves around inside.

He squints, trying to keep the hair in sight as the movement becomes more erratic.

Will hears glass breaking just as he loses sight of Eddie entirely, wisps and all.

He rushes past his Mom, using the weight of his body to open the door, even as she stands in the way. It’s almost involuntary, a compulsion to follow the thread that Eddie’d pulled him by.

“Will, don’t!” she cries, but it’s too late. He’s out, and through.

Mike calls after him, too, and there’s the sound of tennis shoes stampeding out of the house behind him. Will only hopes he’s not leading them all to their impending doom.

Bodies slump into the driveway, none of them human. They’re like if the Demogorgon had followed a different evolutionary chain. Dustin would find it fascinating. Will just wants Eddie and Steve back.

Wayne’s still standing sentry, looking out across the street, waiting for more monsters to creep in from the darkness, Barbara by his side.

Shielding the entrance to the van, is El.

“El!” It’s Mike, because it always is. He sounds so genuinely elated that something curdles and dies in his throat. He swallows it down, hopes it decomposes in his stomach, so he never has to look directly at it. “You came!”

El smiles, happily at Mike, then around to all of them. “Of course.” She looks over at Max, and she’s frowning now, that way she does when she doesn’t understand something. It used to happen all the time. Now, it’s rare.

Will doesn’t care, can’t when Eddie’s too quiet in the van somewhere Will can’t see. He pushes past her, too.

There’s a misshapen, monstrous foot sticking out of the broken window. He stares at it for a second before swinging the door open. It wrenches the foot strangely, makes it crack and tear with the resistance of the door before it breaks free, black blood flowing like the thing’s still alive. 

It stays still. 

Will looks past it, and finds Eddie’s pale face.  

There’s glass in his hair, and his palms are bleeding where they’re held in front of him, but he’s breathing. Alive. And he’s looking up at El like she’s answered all his prayers. Will and Eddie have been sharing the same prayers from the same broken pews for so long that for a second, Will thinks Steve is back. 

He scrambles over the dead thing blocking his entrance. It’s cold against his palms, flesh barely giving as he crawls hand over feet atop it. But, Steve’s still just sitting there, blinking, Carol huddled into his side like he can protect her, even like this.

“Steve needs your help,” Eddie says, plaintive. Begging with both voice and unblinking eyes, gaze locked on El’s own until she breaks it to look at where Steve still sits, unbothered.

Her brow furrows, eyes squinting like she’s peeling off layers of skin and meat to get to whatever’s underneath. “He’s lost?” she asks.

Carol is squinting at El like the words aren’t clicking for her. She looks back to Steve, then back to El, brow furrowing with anger.

Eddie nods. Will clears his throat. “Not like last time,” he clarifies. “He’s here, but his mind isn’t.”

El nods, decisive. “I will help.”

“What the hell are you all talking about!” Carol demands, even as people scatter around her, setting up for El’s latest rescue mission. “He’s right there!”

She’s not looking at Will, though. She’s looking at Eddie like it’s all his fault. Still, when Steve doesn’t say anything, her lip wobbles as she turns and asks, “right Steve?”

He doesn’t answer, even as she calls again. Will looks away when she bites her lips, eyes wide.

It’s easier this time. They don’t have to break into the school, don’t have to find a pool. El just sits cross-legged in front of Steve on the carpet, careful to stay away from the broken glass and the dead thing. Mike covers her eyes with Wayne’s flannel while the man himself switches the radio dial until he finds one with enough white noise to satisfy.

He can’t quite tune out the murmured conversation between Eddie and Carol, though, no matter how hard he tries. Eddie explains, in clipped, emotionless words, that something, one of the monsters from the other place she’d just gotten a taste of, has taken over Steve. 

“But we’re getting him back?” she asks, voice shrill and breaking, contrasting with Eddie’s own even tone. A veteran to the newbie in the warzone. 

Will, suddenly, feels terribly old. 

“Quiet now,” El demands. 

Eddie looks away from Carol without answering. There is no answer to that question when they’re all subsisting off hope, and not much else.

“Tell him we’re coming, okay?” Eddie asks. He’s looking down at his own bloody palms now, like he can’t bear to look at their last bastion of hope and wait for it to flame and go out. 

“Ask ‘im how to stop the thing taking ‘im over,” Wayne interjects. 

Eddie’s lip wobbles. Will knows how he feels. He doesn’t want Steve to know, if he’s in there at all, that they don’t know what to do. Neither does Will. He wants to save Steve. He always wants to save Steve.

But, Eddie finally looks up, meeting Will’s eyes before nodding. The movement knocks a tear free, but his voice sounds clear when he says, “Ask him how we kill the fucker.”

El nods, shoulders settling as she reaches out to take Steve’s hand. The white noise blankets them all. Will settles down to wait. 

That’s what they always do, when Steve is dying: they wait. This time is no different. 

Part 88

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#steddie #steve harrington #eddie munson #steddie upsidedown au #will byers #my fic #Jonthan and Nancy aren't here for Multiple Reasons. 1. I think it would be funny if they were just at Nancy's house hanging out with no ide #what is going on. and also. Nancy's specific drive with the upside-down has NOT been activated because Barb is alive. So she didn't do\ #the whole Muarry expose the lab plot. and Jon is SLIGHTLY chiller because there are more people looking out for Will so he doesn't feel lik #every single thing has something to do with him. This would also make the season 3 plot smacking them hard and fast sooo much worse #this isn't plot relavant really. it will Not come up i don't think. I just think it's funy. #Also 2. that is just too many characters. I had to put a few back in the box. I have difficulty with any more than like 5? this scene #WITHOUT those two has what. 11??????? And it Shows I think. So no more

[backjustforberena]

You can bargain with me all you like; bring my granddaughter with you to soften my resolve...

#look there is a lot less to choose for rhaena and rhaenys than there is for baela and rhaenys #so i just kind of paralleled these two scenes #and i'm crossing my fingers we get more of them as a focus in season 2 #because there are plenty of moments where they SHARE scenes but they just aren't positioned together or they don't interact #eva ossei gerning #eve best #phoebe campbell #rhaenys targaryen #house of the dragon #rhaena targaryen #my gifs #hotdedit

[bylertruther]

yk. the resistance ppl have to so much as considering the idea that mike might not jump to immediately and enthusiastically engaging in obvious n indisputably gay shit with will publicly is kinda funny in a puzzling way when season three and season four, where he does exactly that the entire way through, are literally right there for us all to watch on netflix.com. like. Okay ❤️

#i get not liking angst. but it's not an insane idea. do you think it's a coincidence that mike quit touching will after season two? do you #think it was just for shits and giggles when he stopped himself from hugging will and put distance between them by ''bro''-ing #out and maintained that energy throughout the entire rest of the season until he finally got over it because he realized they were #in danger and will really needed his support? do i need to remind anyone of his season three + ongoing arc and the iconic legendary #lucas look my arm and it's not my fault you don't like girls moments? #no one HAS to write or entertain those ideas but to act like it's INSANE when we've seen him do literally just that already...... #we all know mike's got a mean bite and that he is absolutely losing the fight rn to conformity like 😭 huh.. #like even in AU contexts that gets thrown out as being preposterous. since s3 will has been the one trying to ''fight'' for #their friendship and in s4 we see him initiating contact and getting rebuffed so it's just like . dsfhbjkjhbdfkjhsbdkjfhbdkj #like do u get what i mean. why do people act like it's crazy that he'd ever be hesitant why is that never considered for even a second #why is will the one that's written as being resistant in every way!!!!!! #anyway. clasps my hands together. I Love Yelling At Clouds #byler #mine

[hephaestuscrew]

I'm still thinking about that scene in Victoriocity S3E7 where Fleet runs back towards the Beast so as to lure it into the path of the train...

Clara's exclamation of 'Teamwork, Fleet!' after Fleet says he's got a plan reflects her conviction that any plan that Fleet has will be a shared plan, something they do together.

This conviction is a kind of trust, and that trust is part of the reason Clara takes a moment to realise Fleet has headed back towards the Beast. She trusts that he's following behind her. She keeps talking to him, her words full of optimism.

When she realises Fleet isn't there, she immediately realises what that must mean he's done, and her voice sounds more small and scared than I think we've ever heard it before.

Fleet's attempt at self-sacrifice is a kind of betrayal of Clara's trust, but when he echoes her celebration of their teamwork in a more somber tone, I think it suggests that he understands the weight of that betrayal.

If Fleet's plan is that Clara won't realise he's gone until it's already too late, then he thinks "Teamwork, Clara" will be the last words he'll ever speak to her. In what he imagines will be their final conversation, Fleet affirms Clara's understanding of them as a team who work well together, even as he is making a choice that rejects the possibility of their teamwork in this scenario. It's a recognition of what their dynamic has meant. It's a goodbye and an apology, even if Clara doesn't understand it as such at first.

I don't think Fleet sounds scared as he initially faces down the train. When he shouts "Yeah, this way, you stupid machine! Come on then!", he sounds defiant and grimly determined.

In fact, I don't think he sounds afraid until Clara appears, until she might be at risk of being in the path of the Beast or the train as well. It's when he shouts "Clara, stay back for God's sake!" and "Please, get back!" that there's real fear and desperation in his voice. He can confront the idea of giving his own life, but not the idea that doing so might put Clara in danger.

Another thing about these lines is that the move from 'stay back' to 'get back' suggests that Clara didn't obey his first instruction but got closer to him (and therefore to the path of the Beast and the train) between those two lines.

Then Fleet gives what might be another attempt at his last words: "I'm sorry! I'm sorry."  A repeated apology before an attempted self-sacrifice is an implicit acknowledgement of how much losing him would hurt Clara. He regrets causing her pain.

Even so, he's accepted that he is about to die and that it'd be worth it to destroy the Beast. But Clara very much hasn't accepted either those things. She's still trying to yell over the noise of the train; she's pulling off her ring to throw at him.

I think it's a good illustration of how Clara's optimism is a kind of strength. She always believes that they can "make a new plan" and that it'll be one in which no one has to die. I think Archibald Fleet needs someone like that, someone who'll tell him to drop to the ground when his death advances from both sides, someone who - even in a dark tunnel with an murderous metal monster and a speeding train - won't stop shouting that there's hope.

#Victoriocity #victoriocity spoilers #clara entwhistle #archibald fleet #I have feelings about them!! #I've listened to this scene a normal number of times... #Can't decide if it's more angsty if Clara heard his apology or if she didn't... #Also on the topic of Clara's optimism #I think it is a part of her temperament #but I don't think that means it's always easy or that it isn't something that takes active effort #The 'midnight overthinkies' scene showed us that there's a lot going on under the surface #As previously established I don't personally see Clara and Fleet romantically #but nonetheless there is something Orpheus and Eurydice #about two people who care deeply about each other #in a dark tunnel trying to head towards safety #and one of them trusts that the other is behind them #except Clara doesn't look back for a while and then he actually is already gone #and she's alone wondering if she's lost him forever #I think I can draw those parallels platonically #Oh also there's something impressive about a show that can literally raise a guy from the dead in the first season #and yet still have real stakes when he's in life or death situations after that #something deeply sinister about how in Even Greater London no death ever needs to be permanent #but we know that the vast majority of deaths would be because access to that technology is so restricted #inspector fleet #victoriocity season 3 #victoriocity podcast #Clara & Fleet #The empty man posteth

[marvel-starwarsfangirl]

here's a horrifying thought (mild spoilers for "Infiltration"):

something something identity has been one of the focal points of Crosshair's character and he confirmed that wiping one's identity away completely is part of the Clone X program.

Hemlock tried to destroy who Crosshair was completely after the poor guy was having an internal crisis for two whole seasons. I am not ok right now.

#star wars #the bad batch #tbb crosshair #the angst material that we are being fed here guys #i could write an essay on this #crosshair's two biggest focal points are loyalty and identity #he has been trying to figure out both for 2.5 seasons #and then they drop this ball on us #no i am not ok #this is gonna be a major plot thread in the next few weeks just watch #because I cannot fathom the writers just brushing off the “conditioning” Cross went through #whatever they did to him left marks #and his poster shows him looking at his helmet #he looks like he's contemplating who he is #what if Hemlock did wipe his number but not his mind #you know #i figured Hemlock would give us more reasons to hate them #this is one of them #royce hemlock

[lovelaceisntdead]

The binding of Mabel has Begun.

#I've printed half of the signatures of the first book. #it will be fourteen in total which i think is the biggest book I've bound? #worries me a little because i may have to round it which i don't really want to do. #don't love the paper I'm using but I need to use it up and I'd rather do it on something I'm not selling #i still have no idea what I'm doing for the cover. haven't even decided on how I'm going to bind it. #i was really hoping the inspiration would have struck me at this point but no luck #i want the two volumes to match but i don't want them to be the same #i think I'm going to hold off on the second book in case we do ever get another season #two volumes the same size will look nicer. and be easier. #been out of the book binding groove for a while so it's nice to ease back into it #even if formatting was HELL i don't know how you fic binders do it #bookbinding #mabel podcast

[almea]

#RWBY #Blake Belladonna #Yang Xiao Long #Bumbleby #ice queendom spoilers #🥺 Seeing this scene again just made me so happy #Especially with this different spin of Yang being more interested in what Blake was writing and wanting to read it #There's also something kind of fun about how Best Day Ever was used as a beginning in volume 2 #But they used it as an ending in Ice Queendom #Low-key kind of want them to do another season of anime RWBY just because I think volume 2 era is a good time to focus on Blake #I will never forget the jokes about volume 2 Blake stealing Ruby's main protagonist role #Especially in the first half #There's another gif I made of this scene where Weiss is looking at them like 'What are you two even doing' #But it's visually less impressive than these shots so I left it out lmao #otp: bumblebee #For my own tagging purposes

[feathers-silly-rambles]

Here's a fun theory on why Alastor was so powerful upon entering hell.

Spoilers(?)

Please keep in mine that NONE OF THIS IS CONFIRMED!!

It's just a theory, and a very lighthearted one at that.

Now although I doubt there's any specific reason for it (I've mentioned in a previous post that I don't think the deal he made had to do with it), I was talking with my sister and a thought suddenly popped into my head.

So Alastor enters hell, probably a bit confused as to where he was (given his death was instant and we're not really told whether or not you suddenly know how you died or where you are when you arrive), and eventually runs into Rosie, someone who currently has quite a bit of souls or is maybe already an overlord.

Rosie seems nice enough to chat with someone who just arrived and is incredibly confused as to what's going on and help them out, so maybe she got along well with Alastor while talking with him and decided to give him a bit of an advantage by giving him some souls (I'm not actually sure if they can do that lmao, just humor me, I'm having fun). She shows him the basics and he figures out how to handle himself from there.

Now I don't entirely believe this theory, personally I think he's just super smart and was able to kill previous overlords and collect souls by being manipulative or something, but it's a fun thought I'm going with for now.

Also this is my favorite image of these two. Their such good friends. <3

#I need more interactions between these two in the next season I swear #I love them #I know that last tiny bit was irrelevant but I don't care #to be honest I haven't even looked into evidence for this theory #Just thought it'd be fun #I might draw something for this at some point just because the idea is nice #They make each other so happy I'm obsessed with them #and how they treat charlie #<333 #hazbin hotel #alastor #hazbin hotel alastor #feathers rambling #rosie #hazbin hotel rosie #theory #hazbin hotel theory

[pherre]

the ending of the christmas special being what it was and the theme of 5x02 ("home is not a place") makes me wonder why 5x06 ended that way at all. the signs were all pointing to either the coopers leaving or the ghosts moving on, i was geniunely surprised when that didn't happen. the story would've been cleaner if 5x06 was either about the coopers' decision to leave with the christmas special as an epilogue or if 5x06 was a regular episode and then the christmas special was left as is so like.... why did this happen

#why two finales??? #i promise i will stop posting about the ending of bbc ghosts i promise i will. #ghosts spoilers #bbc ghosts #i just cant stop thinking about it like 5x06 seems like such an outlier if you consider the special in the grand scheme of things #maybe i need to rewatch the season. but i won't. probably. #i really shouldn't because i already dedicated more of my brain time to this than is probably normal #also i hope im not mixing up the episode numbers i cant be bothered to look them up rn

[best-enemies]

I've reached season 5 on my CSI rewatch and I'm a few episodes past "Swap Meet", where a woman is murdered after attending a swing party with other couples from the neighbourhood. Near the end of the episode there's a moment that made me jump from my seat:

(Grissom walks up to Sara and takes the seat next to her. He's holding two cups. He hands her a cup of tea.)

[INT. POLICE DEPARTMENT - BRASS' OFFICE]

Erin Brady: Everybody fantasizes about other people. (She glances at Grissom.)

Even you, Mr. Grissom. A neighbor, a friend ... girl at the office.

[INT. POLICE DEPARTMENT - HALLWAY]

(The door opens. Paul Brady walks out of the hallway. Erin Brady walks out into the hallway. Sara is sitting in the hallway chair watching them. She watches as they meet and kiss.)

(Grissom walks up to Sara and takes the seat next to her. He's holding two culps. He hands her a cup of tea.)

LIKE!!!!!!!

Right after Erin ends her sentence with 'girl at the office', the first time Sara and Grissom meet again, he brings her tea. This might be an innocent interaction but to me it seemed like a nod to this relationship they have where both are into each other, know about the other's feelings, but can't/won't do anything about it (although Sara has kind of given Grissom an ultimatum). I don't know if it was intentional - I'm guessing it is, because I picked it up immediately. I might or might not have squealed in delight.

#csi #gsr #i'm very Normal about them btw i don't think about them 50 times per day or anything #need to talk more about these two here #because im obsessed about them in a Normal way #sara is like. my dream wife. i totally get grissom being in love with her for years and barely holding it together #i would not though #i'm 1000% sure she's bi. but the writers have been cowards so far #also she and i dress THE SAME. yes i love 2000s clothes so what #i could talk about her forever she's everything to me #and grissom. oh grissom. i also get why she's been in love with him forever #i mean what the FUCK went down in san francisco did they hook up and sex was so good it scared them #and now they have to live with that tension and they're scared of crossing that line #nah i'm guessing with these two they just REALLY clicked. like. they were an instant match and they knew it #but grissom didnt want to lose focus on work or whatever and they lived in separate states you know #but oh my god i totally get sara. grissom is such a silver fox. he's like one of the hottest old men i've ever seen in my life #you know what i 100% get tumblr sexualizing old men it's completely valid i'm in this now too #he has this LOOK. whenever he's angry at a suspect. and he looks angrily at them. i'm chewing on my keyboard just remembering it #and his smirks #AND THE WAY HE LOOKS AT SARA #im losing my mind #i love all of gil grissom but seasons 4-5 jesus fucking christ #ok enough with the sexualizing i love him as a character SO MUCH. he's absolutely fantastic #one of the things i love the most about him is that he doesn't judge people. whenever the team is confused about someone #or this persons' lifestyle #he's always trying to understand them and not judge them #like a true scientist he wants to understand the nature of things and people #and he's such a sweetheart i love him so much #like there are so many things i love about him i can't fit them all in the tags. same for sara #they're a perfect match for me

[bookofmac]

if everyone keeps going 'why arent they more gay?' about class of '07 i'm going to explode.

the show is set in 2017, the year that marriage equality was publicly debated and then eventually voted in it and it was a ROUGH year.

also, they went to CATHOLIC SCHOOL!!! I might just be speaking for myself here, but I wouldnt be getting into a relationship with any of the girls I went to school with if i was stuck on the campus with them, like a non zero amount of the student leadership were young libs (australian conservative party's youth branch).

#class of 07 #class of '07 #like i get what you all want #i also would like more queerness on aussie tv #but this is one of those things that is just accurate to the australian catholic school experiance #my hs friend group was pretty queer but the only two got together after school and one of them was a trans guy & both left before year 12 #this is so much a series about dealing with the shit that messed you up in school because you are stuck there #like saskia becomes a queen bee bitch BECAUSE she's there in that space #if they were in a hotel on a hill or something it wouldnt be the same #but also Tegan is queer she's just not in a romantic relationship with Megan #also Teresa and Sandy are gonna have a baby in the next season im sure so there's potential there imo #also i havent watched the wilds or yellowjackets or whatever so i'm looking at this from the pov of australian who like australian tv #anyway these are just my opinions

[gayofthefae]

"Mike never loved El" is so out of left field but I feel like if they just go "Mike loves El and everything you saw has been true except this past year he's been struggling with this other thing, feelings for Will" the GA will probably be more like "aww poor guy hope he figures this out and gets to be happy with Will AND be in a good place with El".

Like all you really need to do is pretty simple actually. "You weren't wrong this ENTIRE time this isn't a 'twist' so it's still in character and here is what will make happy". Then people will be like "aww, what'll make Mike happy! Yeah, let's do that one!" like...it's not that complicated. If a character tells you what they want and it isn't 100% out of left field and can be achieved without hurting anyone (although if you look around you'll find that last one isn't even required for many audience members anymore), audiences will typically root for that.

(The only actual reason for discourse besides projection is that we haven't confirmed what the object of the triangles wants themself. That's literally the only thing we're arguing about. Who they DO have feelings for. It isn't a competition. It's competing predictions of something yet to be revealed.)

#willelmike triangle #byler #general audience byler #byler predictions #stranger things #byler comfort #mike wheeler #a) make people like mike again by explaining his actions #b) now that he feels like the character they fell in love with again tell them what will make him happy #(oh look that's actually a two in one) #c) give him that. Anyone rooting for something else is likely passionately attached to it (don't bother them). Besides them people will be #happy to see him happy because they truly believe that he is and that it is consistent to the story #it is not hard to do unless you have committed to one interpretation before you had the full information #i.e. 'he isn't who he was in season 2 making it out of character' #it's only out of character if you defined his character rigidly in season 2 #but he fluctuated even within those two seasons. his actions have been consistent to a person. his state of mind just hasn't been consiste #nt because neither are people's

[c0l0re]

Every time I see a post about Jonmartin being toxic I get just a little bit closer to commiting arson

#colore speaks #not main tagging this because i genuinely do not want this to become A Thing but god #im not going to get into all of it here because i have already spent a frankly embarrassing amount of time discussing this with friends #i have gone point by point. season by season. i have looked at this from so many fucking angles man #istg i will write an actual analysis post on these two eventually #is their relationship perfect? fuck no it is absolutely not #is it toxic? also no #like. their relationship is flawed and theyve both got a lot of issues but that does not equal toxicity #also id like to remind people: we dont see what happens off tape. we only see what the Web deemed as important or necessary #in other words: we only see them when they are suffering and tensions are running higher than normal #we dont see their lunches together in season two. we dont see their time at the safehouse. we dont see them when they arent suffering #this is one of those things about tma that i am so passionate about and am so certain on #i have spent way too long analyzing these fuckers both seperately as characters and also together as a couple #they have issues. im not denying that whatsoever #but to say that theyre toxic or that their relationship could never work or whatever else is just not true and i will die on that hill #nuance people. please. this is not a black and white thing #(not getting into this either but: this is also coming from someone whos been in toxic and abusive relationships) #(i know what that shit looks like and this is not it)