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#even if it starts with them arguing on Reddit lmao
tricksterlatte · 1 year
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The Safety of Anonymity
Chapters: 1/1 Rating: Teen and Up Audiences Archive Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Fandom: Persona 5 Pairing: Akeshu (Goro Akechi/Akira Kurusu) Additional Tags: Post-Canon, Social Media, Chatting & Messaging, Mutual Pining, Akechi Goro Lives, Akechi Goro is Bad at Feelings, I took that Black betrays Red scene from the TV and made Akeshu get into fandom discourse over it, Angst, A SHOCKING amount of angst given this started as a Reddit fic, Angst with a Happy Ending, Humor, Secret Identity, Online Friendship, Coping, Getting Together, Not Beta Read, References to Depression
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todayisafridaynight · 2 years
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I think it's mad suspicious that people are quick to jump to believing Daigo is definitely only or very into women based on him being a cabaret club once onscreen, and that Mine is definitely into women because his secretary. Never mind one of these characters had an onscreen love confession about the other man because they don't even want to acknowledge it as something that was 100% romantic. Idk HOW so many insecure men started stapling themselves to Mine (oh it's probably the sigma grindset) but here we are I guess 💀 People can see things how they want, but... there's some braindead Reddit posts/threads about both of them on this topic.
My favorite moment was when one guy started projecting onto Mine saying he only dates supermodels 😭 Mans had a whole ass speech about hating fakeness, feeling unfulfilled and uninterested in the wealthy life of money and women, and longed for a genuine relationship. All of that? I don't know her.
they could have had mine and daigo make out for 5 minutes straight on screen in 4k and there would still be people arguing either of them were straight. but for a Real Talk and rambling moment look below the cut 🥴
i think the funniest bit about people saying mine's straight is when they reference the line where he says he could have any woman with all the money he collected- but that line like. is Immediately followed up by him saying he wasnt happy that way and judging by the rest of his speech, we can deduce he was just doing what he assumed would make him happy based on societal norms of having money, power, and women.
and theres nothing bad about saying mine's slept with women btw- i wouldnt turn the idea away, esp if you wanna consider it as comphet behavior. but even despite all that, it's really hard to say that mine didn't love daigo romantically when in official rgg guides and rggo stories it was stated one way or another that mine explicitly fell in love with daigo, the phrase being used only ever associated either with romantic feelings or immense adoration that you probably wouldn't use for a typical friend
also the bit about mine and his secretary is so funny cause i remember my friend- who didnt know a thing about rgg- was making me a mine amv as part of an art trade and when they saw him and katase they automatically assumed they were A Thing so i think its just instinctive heteronormativity: if man and woman on screen surely theyre together 🥴
with daigo it's so like. 🤷‍♀️ rgg's inability to have a woman on screen for more than five minutes without her dying kills them in shit like this cause aside from that cabaret scene where daigo's at his lowest and very-easily resorting to hedonistic practices to numb his pain, we never see him with another woman or even mention another woman. if you wanna add more to it, during an rggo story mine finds the concept of daigo spending the night with a woman instantly suspicious (for context, daigo was actually kidnapped and just lied to a bodyguard he was with a woman), suggesting that daigo isn't really known to do as such to people who really know him.
i forever live by the joke hc that he only ever hired hostesses just so he could vent and they contractually had to deal with him LMAO
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newjenns · 9 months
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basically dream got a surgery and tweeted after he got it that he might have people stand in for him making tiktoks for him wearing his mask because he can’t make them rn (which sidenote pretty sure his brother is the one in the tiktoks confirming the body double theory lmao)
then people started commenting on his tiktoks saying random peoples names that they thought were actually the people in them since they knew it couldn’t be dream and tweeting jokes like “who’s cake is this ik it’s not dreams” and dream got super mad about this and ranted on his priv being like “stop doing that it hurts my engagement and makes it look like everything i do is super impersonal and i’m not filming my own stuff i’m just making other people do it for me” which like . he admitted he was doing 😭
then he tweeted “I think it’s really cool if we refer to different dreams (if there’s multiple in one place, like the Dream multiverse, as just like “Dream 2” or whatever), rather than speculating on who’s who or giving them unique names because it’s really cool that it’s all just ‘Dream’” which is just funny to me like what ?? 😭
people on reddit then were talking about it and he just started arguing with everyone on there about it and also about the fact that people are getting frustrated with him not making any of the content they actually became fans of him for and just focusing on his music that no body wants and expecting everyone’s blind support of it and he claimed that that was bullshit and he has been making that content just at a slower rate even though the only content he’s put out in months is random tiktoks that he admitted sometimes aren’t even him, music, and tweets
i don’t understand why he would feel like he “needs” to have someone else film his tiktoks bc like. tiktoks are Not his main draw of content it’s his stupid little video games obviously i don’t know what kind of surgery he got or how it’s affecting him but he could absolutely just sit down and film a minecraft video / twitch stream that way no one would gaf if he didn’t do tiktok i’m sure
i did see some of his priv tweets about it and i literally jsut thought he was fighting invisible demons about the body double theory 😭 also why does this sound like he wants to recreate the barbieland barbies irl like this dream makes tiktoks this dream does twitch events like ??2?3!/
i have seen some vague crit here and there about dream focusing too much on music and not enough on regular content (as in the thing people followed/subbed/supported him for in the first place) i feel like if he just wants to do music he should say that rather than dangle youtube videos or streams that are never gonna happen in front of his audience it’s not fair to them, a youtuber who puts out semi regular content and a wannabe singer are two very different kinds of fandom approach
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golbrocklovely · 8 months
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i only recently got back into the snc fandom after not watching them for years lmao so i didn’t know any of the elton/corey lore or what went down
just wanted to say i found your post/rant really interesting and let me into a side of them i really didn’t know about since i’ve been MIA for so long
anyway you’re cool :)
i've calmed down a little since my rant (not a whole lot, but enough lol) and if snc accept elton's apology, that's fine.
however to me, it doesn't make up for what he did for three years. elton continuously said nasty things about snc to fans in public on tour (as someone explained their experience on reddit) and then in comments and tweets. and even if snc did what elton claimed they did back then, that didn't warrant the constant pettiness that he gave them. i get feeling slighted or pissed that someone stole your idea (which isn't what snc did but is what elton claimed and then tried to say that fans said that....) but doing it so publicly is the part that grosses me out the most, personally.
snc are private ppl. they keep a lot of shit under wraps. so to air out your grievances so loudly in front of fans, and then turn around three years later and blame them for taking it too far..... nah, sorry uncle elton. you're wrong.
fans took it too far by being mean and sending deaths over actual made up lies that they started. i will not argue against that. on multiple occasions i have called out tiktoks and reported ppl spreading lies about elton. but none of that negates what he actually did, which was bad mouthing snc for years over something that he felt like they did when that wasn't reality.
i'm glad they got to make up, since clearly snc really wanted to do that. but i truly hope this is the end of their relationship and we see no more from the four of them. let it now just be mutual respect for one another and nothing more. bc i still wont support a collab with either party. that's my personal line in the sand. if others don't care, cool. do you.
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lemonhemlock · 8 months
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Lmao I think anon's "reddit leaker" is referring to Jory, who has attempted to leak info since like s6 of GOT and never gotten it right once. It’s funny because he started the Rook’s Rest in in episode 4, and yeah, maybe he’s right! But that’s where the rumour began. As someone who used to work on sets, I can tell you they’re very purposefully letting a lot of this info get out- even filming in public, there’s many ways to hide this stuff. So either they don’t care or they figure it’s not worth the trouble to try and keep the public from taking pics or video. Given how much they filmed in the woods, I’d wager it’s very possible for multiple eps and multiple directors to have been on set, like you said. Again, I’m not saying any of this info is incorrect- just that it’s not unusual to film many things in this same location back to back. They weren't just shooting battle content for three weeks. Ewan was on set but not dressed for filming, so it’s unclear what role Aemond was even playing there. We just saw them filming Criston’s reaction. I can’t claim to know when things are or aren’t happening, but as you can tell, people are convinced they’re 100% right about things that we can’t confirm. Redanian has been incorrect, as all spoiler accounts are eventually incorrect, it’s the nature of the business 🤷‍♀️
yeah, i think they must not care that much, since a lot of filming is also happening in the studio and that can radically shift whatever the outside narrative is anyway
they also perhaps want to let a few crumbs slip by as it maintains engagement during this long break
people arguing even over false leaks is to their advantage anyway as it keeps the show as a topic of conversation
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boundless11 · 2 years
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i completely agree with you, it feels like the writers don't even like sam at times imo, it's like they don't treat anything to do with her with the due respect (for example the ptsd storyline which sam clearly still wasn't over in season 4). i wonder if the writers know how hated sam is? it's wild. she should be written better. i don't personally hate tory but as a sam fan it gets hard going onto fan spaces and seeing so much bias towards tory and hatred towards sam without any empathy for her situation whatsoever. is sam just supposed to "get over it"? that's so stupid LMAO. i'm rambling now but really thank you💖
Omg! I think I was this discussing this with another fan: how the writers don’t like Sam! You’re right! If they liked her, she would’ve been written better and had better narrative framing. I felt the PTSD was brushed under the rug and during the fight at prom, Miguel had a go at her for ruining their night instead of trying to understand what got her to start the fight. Miguel has always been so aloof! I wish they’d had more scenes together in season 3 and 4 of their shared trauma.
I don’t hate Tory either, but she deserves to have her ass handed to her for all the rubbish she pulled. Writers have taken an easy way out with her but giving her the sob story of a bad home life. Well it was really bad, then she shouldn’t be out there starting fights. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Reddit is overrun by rabid Peyton fans, who only watch the show because she’s in it and want her to have it all. And then try to be argue how valid Tory’s actions are. There’s no point arguing with them.
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the-100th-witch · 7 months
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OH SO I GET AN AD ON YOUTUBE FOR A TRANSPHOBIC DRAMATIZED DOCUMENTARY NOW OK
I heard of EPOCHTV and that they have hateful views toward....everything lgbtq+ community but damn lol the youtube video im watching is a reaction comedy video on an episode of bar rescue why the fuck is this here??
"Learn the Truth" ah there it is.
So from the ad, I got snippets of words like "therapist are TRAINED to say that", "it's a trend", "why all the children/media suddenly started pushing the trans agenda" oooohhhh scary~ lmao what a fucking joke. and I guess it's from parents ("parents are being treated like the enemy" well you wouldnt if you weren't transphobic/homophobic/literally just let you kid live and try to discover themselves and be fucking supportive fuck sake) and i guess people who have de-transitioned
So this is what Youtube really wanted me to watch without my ad blocker huh ok ok ok
I'm not watching that trash but just from the trailer alone i could tell it was fearmongering and so I went to the IMDB page to look at any reviews and OH look at that lmao (im not gonna go into the whole review but yea)
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here's a reddit thread on it just to look at more discussion on it.
I'm just heated bc they force me to turn my ad blocker off on youtube and i get ads for sexy singles that are totally real and not sketchy as fuck "dating/hookup" apps that are pretty racist and sexist and now i get an ad for a docudrama about fear mongering on the "transgender agenda" like really fucking over it and ive only had ad block off for today.
I'm never not interested in hearing both sides of a topic (not every topic can be like that lol this is one of them among many others) but this isnt even that...it's straight up "this is evil everyone is turning kids against parents and there is a deadly trans agenda spreading ooooh" like no there isnt??? where are you getting that?
You can't argue that you think a whole marginalized group of ppl are "dangerous" and trying to basically turn your kids against you. That's fucked up. It's transphobic. Period.
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softgrungeprophet · 2 years
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i do not want randos arguing with me about this or whatever but idk man the way the riddler’s blatant 4chan incel cryptofash libertarian characterization flew over so many people’s heads in favor of poor little infantilization-of-mental-illness-and-queerness meow meow is uncomfortable at best lmao
even taking into account a different reading of the character/film that proposes the writers were trying to backpedal a sympathetic villain into being terrible through random acts of violence (a read i completely disagree with) it’s still....ehhhh.... why do you guys always do this you know?? why is it always, here is this visibly neurodivergent or mentally ill dude, i am going to write him like he is the most helpless baby widdle kitten he just can’t hewp himsewf uwu look at his cute crush on batman :3c he’s just a little guy just a little birthday boy
why is that always the default? it’s really grating to have everything boiled down into cutesy moe-by-helplessness stuff
also to the first point, like you know i like actually sympathetic or noble or redeemable villains despite the way consecutive writers often DO try to backpedal and retcon shit because they want them to be more evil (lookin at you dr doom) but this is like..... idk man these types of people exist literally online
like you can just go on 4chan and reddit and find these guys. you don’t even need the deep web. there is at least one instance of a man streaming a shooting, in real life, and not even in the USA, like that’s a thing that happened.
(edit: i wrote this post before the may 14th supermarket shooting happened, but like, feels i ought to mention this since it is another example of the way these people operate in real life, twitch streaming atrocities. idk man. idk why you would want to fetishize that kind of guy.)
the throughline of this character is present throughout the entire movie, from the start. the sympathetic shit is the part that feels tacked on. but i already talked about that. how i think it makes the foil ineffective, trying to make him less privileged. how catwoman is a better economic-class-race-etc counterpoint and it would have made more sense for mr. bouncing baby boy over here to be privileged (besides being a white man i mean) and for his resentment to come from a different place. but at the same time, he is privileged, and of course these kinds of guys talk about how they were let down by society, about how everyone else Deserved what they get, about how they’re teaching everyone who ever wronged them a lesson, retaliating against every perceived slight that’s stacked up in their bitter grudges
idk man it’s weird like i do have criticisms of the portrayal of that character but it sure isn’t the violence that i have problems with.
ACTUALLY ALSO speaking of deserving what one gets, i think this cements the idea that he is a foil to batman, though i think it was fumbled slightly. because bruce says that shit to selina about how maybe her friend had it coming. and then you have the stuff where the riddler is like, you and me! together! and bruce is like... nah dude. because they ARE meant to be foils, and to mirror each other in some ways. they are meant to be parallels, in that the riddler a regular fucking dude, the riddler is what bruce could have become and still could become in bitterness and punishment and feeling that others deserve what’s coming--something he still has to unlearn. that is literally the point. it’s a divergence of pathways. idk.
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how i think the 104th would use social media in a modern!au (includes eren, mikasa, armin, jean, marco, sasha, connie, historia, ymir, bertholdt, reiner & annie) - mac
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eren jaeger:
most used app: snapchat
still does streaks on snapchat - over 600 day streak with jean and to keep it going they just send insults to each other.
has the most cracked screen, it’s literally hanging together but he refuses to get a new screen until it no longer works.
would leave the house with 14% battery (this makes me incredibly nervous but eren knows he’ll be able to charm his way into someone giving him their charger.)
mikasa ackerman:
most used app: instagram or tumblr
mikasa should be hired by the fbi or something - give her a name and she will find all their social media pages.
i’m not sure what it would be but she’s definitely part of a fandom of a tv series or music group which is why she spends so much time on tumblr.
unlike eren, she actually has a case to prevent her screen from smashing - it would probably be one of those clear ones with flowers on the back, and she’d put in a polaroid picture of her and her friends in the back of it.
armin arlert:
most used app: youtube
he hasn’t got many posts on his instagram but a few of some pretty landscapes and a couple of group photos of him and his friends. his profile picture is of him, eren & mikasa.
literally could spend all day on wikipedia. he goes to google something but then falls down a rabbit hole. 
vsauce? asap science? random reddit videos? sign armin tf up. 
jean kirstein:
most used app: twitter or spotify
does gaming live-streams with eren. people watch not to see gameplay but to see the entertainment that is jean and eren’s competitive arguing (they play a lot of call of duty, mario kart, but also minecraft when they’re actually on good terms with each other)
gets into heated arguments with people on twitter. they go on forever because jean likes to have the last word/tweet.
you know those people that always have their headphones in? jean is that kind of person. he’d be sneakily listening to music during class (let’s be real he’s definitely got airpods.)
marco bodt:
most used app: instagram (& whatsapp because he’s in a lot of group chats)
the best hype man. comments on all of his friends selfies telling them how gorgeous they look.
he sends motivational quotes and wholesome memes to all of his friends which are always appreciated.
marco’s the one to put together group chats and ensure that arguments in them are smoothly resolved (eren and jean are usually the culprits.)
sasha braus:
most used app: tiktok
definitely makes very chaotic tiktoks/tweets that just blow up and end up on popular pages that repost to instagram.
her and connie would spam group chats with memes and selfies with stupid filters on. sometimes they’ll just target one person in particular (always jean) and they end up getting kicked or blocked.
her instagram captions tend to be random quotes and inside jokes from her friends (mainly connie) much to the confusion of everyone else.
connie springer:
most used app: instagram
has a private account on instagram just to post embarrassing pictures of his friends.
goes into conspiracy theory facebook groups just to troll the people in them.
out of everyone, the most likely to have games on his phone. when he’s bored in the car or during class he’ll just start playing geometry dash or temple run.
historia reiss:
most used app: tiktok
you know she’s got a tiktok with 100k followers. tiktok dance trends, makeup tutorials, look books - she does it all.
loves pinterest so much. gets a lot of outfit/home decor ideas from it - it’s likely that there’s a ton of photos of her on pinterest as outfit inspiration.
types !! like !! this !! and uses these emojis: ✨🌸💖🥰 way too much.
ymir:
most used app: facetime
half the time she’s on her phone is going to spent spent facetiming historia i can’t lie.
i personally hc that ymir in a modern!au would play either the bass or drums and i can just see historia begging to post a tiktok of her playing that then blows up - ymir would be so nonchalant about it but inside she’s dying of excitement.
probably has every group chat she’s in on mute - occasionally will lurk to see what’s going on, would only ever join in the conversation if drama was going down in which she’d send a gif of someone eating popcorn.
bertholdt hoover:
most used app: youtube or discord
likes to watch those reddit story time videos. would spend a good few hours watching them without even realising what the time is.
has 0 posts on instagram. cannot do any insta stalking of him (unless you looked through his tagged photos and find the ONE selfie he ever took with reiner.)
does a lot of gaming and uses discord to talk to his gamer friends (probably plays more story based/quest games compared to eren and jean - maybe like the last of us & skyrim!!)
reiner braun:
most used app: instagram
at least two shirtless pictures of him on his instagram (and way more if you’re on his private snapchat story - he likes to make it known that he’s at the gym. )
uses ‘lmao’ so much to the point he says it out loud not just over text
for some reason these emojis (👍👏👋💪) make me think of reiner ?? instead of replying ‘okay’ or ‘bye’ you just get ‘👍👍’ or ‘👋👋’
annie leonhardt:
most used app: spotify
follows so many cat accounts, she’s considering making her own to post pictures of her cat.
out of everyone, likely to be the person who uses social media/her phone the least, it probably overwhelms her quite a bit so unless she’s messaging someone (or looking at cats,) it’s unlikely to see annie on her phone.
does listen to a lot of music on spotify though - she’s got a study playlist, a playlist for when she’s at the gym, songs to listen when she’s just chilling at home - her spotify wrapped every year is pretty impressive.
BONUS:
spotify or apple music?
spotify: jean, mikasa, bertholdt, ymir, reiner, annie, sasha, historia
apple music: eren, armin, marco, connie
who sends memes into group chats?
eren, jean, sasha, connie, reiner
how long do they take to reply to messages?
replies instantly: marco, historia, sasha, connie, reiner
leaves you unopened for 3 days but then replies: eren, jean, mikasa, armin, bertholdt
leaves you on read: ymir, annie
who has the highest screen time?
eren, historia, sasha
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thespoonisvictory · 3 years
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*warning for dream critical, and pointless rambling about point systems and the nature off mcc. I am not an expert, nor do I think dream should be sent any hate, or that he even really deserves actual criticism for it*
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sooo dream posted this on his reddit, as I’m sure you’ve heard. here are my thoughts, because I have a lot to say.
first of all, the fact that dream doesn’t list any pvp games as his strengths is laughable. he’s undeniably a god at both sb and sg, and yet these aren’t strengths for him? he really thinks he’s better at hitw than skybattle? but obviously, if he lists those, he can’t say the point system is against him. but anyway. the tournament isn’t making him play worse, he’s playing worse, and pinning it on the tournament in general is silly.
I don’t think he’s trying to say that mcc is like rigged against him, nor is this particularly hateful, but it comes across as very entitled and oblivious to the reason why mcc exists, which I’ll get into.
Sands of Time: this is a great idea! until you... actually think about it. vaults in particular don’t work, because how can you argue that splitting vaults is more fair when usually one person finds the key and one person finds the vault itself. what about people who spend more time on puzzles or combat to unlock other areas instead of getting coins? what about sand that other people have collected that shouldn’t ‘belong’ to the sand keeper? do they deserve points for that? it’s messy at best, and keeping the points grouped and then split is the simplest and most effective way to keep it fair.
but beyond that, sot is a team game. you’re meant to work with your teammates to most effectively explore the vault, and although individual performance matters, team communication and strategy is much more important, and it’s reflected in the scores.
Parkour Tag: I’m going to trust dream’s word on this one, as many other people such as op have corroborated it. points should be fixed to better reflect the hunter’s skills.
HITW: uhhh, you get a big bonus because you survived the hardest walls my guy. it’s like getting win points for sg, you get it because you were the best, and because you effectively beat the game. also, I hate to say it but if you’re never getting to the end in hitw then you’re not that good lmao
Parkour Warrior: I don’t think he’s blaming mcc for this, or even saying it should be brought back, but like, pw was removed for a reason. the over-practicing done by some competitors forced the difficulty to be raised so far above the average person that parkour was now a miserable experience for 80% of competitors and their viewers. people weren’t having fun, and it wasn’t an engaging game if you weren’t great at it, so it got knocked. it was for the good of the tournament and the players, not to hurt dream’s ego.
TGTTOS: now this is where it gets batshit. ok, first of all, dream suggests that it’s almost impossible to use teamwork, something disproved by watching literally any perspective where teammates guide each other through the map, give tips, and shout out which directions to go. hell, group bridging has proved very effective. then, he suggests that the team bonus is bad because it gives more points to good teams... and this is a bad thing.
the team bonus is such a wonderful implement because it encourages teams where everyone contributes equally. unlike stuff like hitw, where one good player can carry a team to 1st, tgttos team bonuses mean that the strongest overall team usually wins, not the one with the strongest individual player. which is good! because this is a team tournament!
Overall: besides the impracticality of resorting the entire points system to cater to his ‘strengths’, the issue with this mindset. mcc isn’t about individual points, it’s about how you do as a team. the top two players don’t face off in dodgebolt, afterall. having shared points and team benefit encourages that the winning team is one where every player contributes and works together, instead of a few players individually being skilled. but this isn’t that for dream, and I think that’s blatantly clear. I understand that he wants to show his skill, but mcc is a tournament started by scott as a way to play with his friends for fun. It’s about meeting new people and networking and sometimes making money for charity, not a try-hard competition.
and if he wants to take it competitively, that’s fine, but other people try as well, and yet no one else is complaining.
techno didn’t complain when they changed game rules like five times to nerf him, he just adapted.
players who perform roles like woolplacer in bb don’t complain about the loss of points, they just do their job.
the hermits, especially grian, certainly haven’t played this season, despite having two of their strongest games removed from circulation (bingo and rocket spleef).
other than parkour warrior complaints raised as a community, I can’t think of anyone else that has demanded a change in points to better suit them. It comes off as incredibly egotistical to believe that can tell mcc how their tournament should be run, and that it should cater to the small percentage of people who want to take it that competitively. above all, it comes off as naive to what mcc is actually about, even if he didn’t intend for this to sound as off as it did to me. 
tldr: dream pls calm down and stop trying to make a for fun tournament your place to show off, it’s for fun.
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itsclydebitches · 2 years
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you know what's really ridiculous about that whole 'wasting the lamp's third question' thing is... they didn't need to have another question???
ozpin had already lied about the lamp being out of questions. if they didn't have a plan for two more questions, just say that the lamp actually had one more question left, and it was the last question they used to find out oz's tragic backstory. like, there was no reason for there to be two more questions left if they didn't have plans for them tbh. and maybe not having the lamp's extra question as a crutch would've forced them to come up with better solutions to things like 'ruby has caused a leviathan grimm to start a rampage towards argus' and 'oscar has a really stupid plan to 'turn' hazel from the dark side'.
failing that, though, i maintain it's the most ludicrous thing in the world that oscar didn't use the last question. i still have no idea how just SEEING the fucking genie was enough for hazel to be convinced when he'd just been willing to beat the shit out of a fifteen-year-old kid over his 'convictions' (such as they are) lmao
This is one of the (many) reasons why I don't buy into the idea that RT is planning long-term for RWBY. If they're introducing the concept of the Lamp still having two questions in Volume 5 and if that's done with some specific intent for Volume 8... don't we think that intent would have been something a little better than "Cinder uses the final question to rehash what the audience saw last episode, resulting in her learning the heroes' plan despite never needing to know their plan in order to find and attack them"? Then we have the fact that we still don't know what happened to the third question. Once again, if you introduce the concept that a question was mysteriously used sometime over the last hundred years, the audience expects to get an answer to who used it, why, and what repercussions that has for the tale... but three years later there's nothing. There are plenty of theories (most notably that the original Spring Maiden used it alongside Lionheart and Raven), but nothing that RWBY built towards and revealed. The story doesn't read like these details were set down to be built upon later. It reads like the authors threw out random details that sounded cool, only to either drop them over time, or flounder when they realized they had to make something of that expectation, resulting in a conclusion that's either unsatisfying, or straight up doesn't make sense. Or both. A well-planned story would have a satisfying use for that final question on the backburner, and an explanation for the first question, or it would have simply told us that only one question remains, with perhaps a casual line about two things Ozpin asked a couple of decades ago to smooth over those expectations while informing the audience "It's otherwise not important." RWBY gave us none of that.
Last night I hopped onto the RWBY Reddit for the first time in an age (the perils of boredom lol) and came across a post arguing that, in regards to Weiss no longer using her time ability, the simplest explanation is that there is some in-universe explanation, not that RT forgot or deliberately dropped the ability without comment. Yes, in a story with more goodwill this would be a gap that fans would be more than happy to fill in themselves, acknowledging that no work can possibly tie up every loose end (even if dropping such a powerful skill isn't exactly a small loose end). The point though is that RWBY doesn't have that goodwill anymore. The story is overflowing with such gaps, to the point where any episode you tune into you'll hear something like:
"There's a reason Weiss stopped using her time ability, we just didn't get a scene where she explicitly said why. But it's obvious some reason exists for her. Just debate what that is for several years and come to your own, contradictory conclusions about her character."
"Of course other dust companies exist. It would be stupid to write a story with just one, therefore they're canon because the writers are not stupid. They've just never mentioned them."
"You wanted to know how Ironwood lost half his body? The show dramatically revealed his prosthetics, setting up the expectation that someday we'd learn how he acquired them as a part of the backstory for a character who has been around since Volume 2 and was the focal point of Volumes 7 and 8? Well look, just because you want something doesn't mean RT has to write it."
"The cane nuke didn't come out of nowhere. It was obvious Ozpin's cane did something because everyone's weapon does something, it was just never used, or mentioned, or hinted at until the story needed to get out of the corner it had backed itself into. What do you mean how it's used doesn't make sense? Sure it does, provided everyone ignores either Hazel's death or the obliterated grimm/unharmed buildings. Pick a side. And so what if they mentioned outside of the show that the cane was connected to time? That doesn't count."
"They mentioned outside of the show that Ironwood's semblance causes him to focus fully on a single task and that's why he went off the deep end. It totally counts."
And on and on with "It's fine that they introduced two additional questions only to use one needlessly and keep us in the dark about the other" added to the list. We could literally fill an excel sheet with a truly massive number of contradictions, inconsistencies, random plot threads, dropped ideas, and fairly useless conclusions that make you go, "Really? You'd planned for that?" The problem has never been that RWBY has such moments. Every show does. That's inevitable. More than that, it can be fun! Frustrating as it is in the canon at times, fandom thrives on playing with such challenges. How did Watson's war wound move from his leg to his shoulder? Let's think up cool ways he might have been shot where the bullet hit both. The difference here is both that the Sherlock Holmes stories aren't built on such inconsistencies the way RWBY is and that the fandom, outside of that fun, freely goes, "Oh yeah, the real answer here is that Doyle just forgot where he put the wound. He has a tendency to mess up lol." RWBY has the dual issue of both having lost a lot of goodwill and having a fandom that, far more than any other I've been in, pushes the idea that everything is planned. Everything is intentional. Just because an explanation doesn't exist on screen doesn't mean you can't think up one yourself and then there you go. That must be what RT intended all along. Because the alternative is acknowledging that RT is not doing a good job with this story. That is, in fact, the simplest explanation... but it's not the one fans want to hear. The Lamp's questions, OOC decisions to just carry it around so Neo can steal it, giving it right back to Cinder, Hazel being swayed just by seeing Jinn, Oscar not using the question, Cinder using it needlessly, it never falling into Emerald's hands despite continued insistence that fairy tale inspirations drive this plot (Penny)... all of it points to a writing team that's just making it up as they go, heedless of what they wrote before or what they might write in the future. Giving writers the benefit of the doubt is fantastic (god knows we all need it at times), but you reach a point where the audience can't write all that for them. If you need your audience to fill in that many gaps with headcanons they'll argue over for years, it's by no means incorrect or insulting to say, "Hey, the writers didn't do a good job here."
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vi what is going on omg
I don’t even know, it’s bizarre!
Basically my original point was that sometimes when people in fandom have a favorite character, they tend to bend over backwards to justify every single thing they’ve ever done. Or to explain why they’re Not Bad Actually.
This gets… thorny with the Millennium characters in Hellsing. I know the quick argument is to say “Well no one is claiming Millennium characters don’t suck.” Which true! The thing that fans seem to want to argue the most is that their faves aren’t actually Nazis. And what I see happen most often is people starting to add qualifiers about what makes a real Nazi, in order to absolve their anime characters. And it can, and often does, quickly slide into actual Nazi apologist rhetoric. You can get the typical “just following orders” type excuses and even more convoluted “well what does a swastika mean, really?” arguments.
Millennium characters are explicitly, in canon, literal WWII Nazis. When you start splitting hairs over that, it’s really uncomfortable!
And honestly I have seen a lot of it over the years. On tumblr, on reddit (sooo much on reddit jfc), on Discord servers— that I promptly left lmao. I have no intention though of randomly tagging people who I feel have posted distasteful things or getting into fights with them. I don’t have the time or the interest!
But that one person apparently felt the need to make their outrage over me complaining about something on my own blog into everyone’s problem. They seem determined to believe that I am like, personally harassing and policing anyone who likes Millennium characters? Anyway I literally could not care less who likes them, and that is not what I meant by Nazi apologism.
They’re definitely not characters I care about? I find them kind of boring and distasteful outside of their roles as villains/what they thematically represent for the other characters, so I don’t personally write fic or meta stuff about them. But like I’ve literally also made dumb shitposts and jokes about Millennium characters. I cannot state enough how much I do not care about someone deciding to RP as or write fic for them. I have a job, I pay taxes lmao. It’s not my problem.
Anyway I blocked that person so they’d stop trying to talk to me, and then instead they decided to do a weird callout post esque screencapping of my post thread, even though it’s literally all public and in a single post. I’m not sure what they’re trying to accomplish? But the entitlement and sealioning is incredibly funny.
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On a semi related note, someone else also told me that apparently a blog in the replies to my post had a call out post written about them? I literally don’t know anything about that lol I only vaguely recognize the url as someone who’s sent me asks in the past. We’re not mutuals, I don’t know them. Sorry?
I don’t typically get into fights on tumblr, and I wasn’t trying to get into one now! I can literally count on one hand the number of times I’ve gotten into tumblr drama over the like decade I’ve been on this site with various accounts. But yeah apologies for spamming the dash with nonsense omg
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amazingphilza · 3 years
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snapchat :: c!tommy x reader
fluff / angst , platonic , gender neutral ! first request whoop whoop :D [check pinned for more info on requests]
synopsis: ‘what’s so bad about adding every person on snapchat?’ tommy thought. unknowingly, with all the other people he begins talking to during exile, one ends up being you; tubbo’s younger sibling. that is until you both visit tommy in logstedshire.
cw: i purposely misspell a few words for the texting part, i hope it’s still readable for y’all! and i haven’t actually used snapchat in years so let’s pretend i know what i’m doing :)
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tommy smiled at his brand new phone
first thing he does? install snapchat and reddit
if he couldn’t talk to his best friends face to face anymore, at least he had people online to talk to, right?
tommy hoped from all his possessions dream would destroy, he could at least keep a phone
without much thought, tommy opened snapchat and began adding every account and messaging them the same obnoxious message
BE MY FRIEND . MESSAGE BACK NOW.
most people chose ignore tommy, not having a clue why he was messaging them
but as for you, when you had the notification that someone added you on snapchat and started aggressively messaging you, it made you curious
you read their user
“wife haver”?? huh???
instead of immediately blocking the person, you replied back
what?
not even less than a second later you get a reply back
OH MY GOD FINALLY SOMEONE
IM DYING
without context, you were more than confused
genuinely dying is very alarming but you shouldn’t text a random stranger your last words
huh?
THE GREEN BASTARD TOOK EVERYTHING AWAY FROM ME
YOURE ALL I HAVE LEFT
plwase helo
Help
where did tou go
Ohm hgod
hHello?
NOOOO NOT YOU TOO
PLEASR
you laughed at the person’s desperation and ignored the messages
if the stranger wasn’t going introduce themselves, you wouldn’t either
however, after a while you realized you had over 100 snapchat notifications within an hour of trying to ignore the person
however it was just jumbled up words and useless spam, nothing important
as if the stranger would said anything important to your concern anyway
do you ever shut up??
fuck you
a normal person wouldve taken offense by these messages but you found them quite amusing
it wasn’t like you had anything else better to do
and this acceptance was the start of your odd friendship with the stranger
you were still on edge because you had no idea who they were and their intentions but the anonymity was mutual nonetheless
if the desperate spamming “wife haver” isn’t going to formally tell you who they actually were, you weren’t going to risk exposing yourself first
but in the past few weeks, you and the person had normal conversations apart from the first day they messaged you
well as normal as you could’ve expected from someone named “wife haver”
they were the first to send an actual snap as well
that was when you found out the “wife haver” was an obnoxious boy that looked around your age, maybe a slightly older
he had sent you a photo of him holding a thumbs up and trying to smile when he was clearly upset
just got all my stuff exploded again, feeling good
you noticed his messy blonde hair and tattered clothes
what the hell happened to this guy?
part of you was confused, and the other was concerned
u good bro??
well
i don’t have anymore tools and materials if that’s anything
so no
this is shit
lmao it was probably deserved
FUCK YOU!!!!!
im kidding that’s sad
but like do u actually need stuff?
you contemplated sending your next message and thought of the consequences
but in the end, you were probably better off than him so if he did try to do something suspicious, you could easily just leave with your trident or defend yourself
i can bring some things over if you’d like
please oh my god it’s so boring here
where the hell do you even live???
it finally hit that you would be visiting this mysterious person
you never really had much to do during the day and he had nothing against your enchanted netherite armor when compared to his worn-out clothes
you were surprised that he was quick to be comfortable with you visiting him so continued to message the boy
if you live nearby i can just stop over and bring some spare diamond tools and armor if you’d like or smth
DIAMOND !,?’/:@!?:/-',(
ya sure lol
WTF
GOOD SHIT LAD! THANKS
WHEN DO U WANT TO VISIT???
his shock and excitement made you smile
maybe this wasn’t a bad idea
before replying, you quickly ran to your storage room you gather your spare items
instead of normally texting, you decided to take a picture of all the enchanted tools and armor and send back a snap
i’m down for tomorrow, turn on your snapmaps so i can come by ;D
he quickly replied back with handfuls of ‘holy shits’ and ‘YEAHS’
you couldn’t help but smile from ear to ear which caught the attention of your older brother who had just walked in to get blocks from the wall of chests
“ew why are you smiling at your phone like that?”
“oh shut up, tubbo”
“it’s weird”
you roll your eyes at him in a playful matter
“whatever! i’m gonna be out tomorrow to visit a friend, okay?”
“you have friends? wow, sounds like a first”
“you’re such a dick!!” you yell at him whilst trying to hold in your laughter
“oh yeah? go on, tell me about this friend of yours then. meeting strangers online, hm?”
“if you’re so concerned, you can come with if you’re not busy with whatever a president does. i promise they’re not some weirdo like you”
tubbo’s tone was sarcastic but he agreed then left you to your own thoughts
you were excited for tomorrow that you were restless in your bed when nighttime had came
somehow you managed to fall asleep from tiredness in the middle of the night
soon enough it was morning
before doing anything, you checked your phone and went through all your notifications
you then checked snapchat, browsing snapmaps and realized how far you had to travel
despite the long travel, you brought yourself up from your bed and gathered all the items you were going to bring
you stuffed a full set of enchanted diamond armor, tools, and over a stack of golden carrots all in your inventory
after finishing all your preparations, you searched for your older brother
with just a loud yell of his name he appeared almost instantly
“you ready to go, tubbo?”
“yep! you know where you’re going right?”
you scoffed at the question
“of course!”
and with that, the two of you traveled on foot until you reached the ocean
you had brought 2 boats with you knowing that you couldn’t imagine being in the same boat as your brother; it would’ve ended up in endless bickering
after a while of being at sea, tubbo started to become impatient
“what the hell! how far does this person live, y/n??”
“i dunno!”
you knew the general direction you were supposed to be going to after studying your snapmaps all morning but you couldn’t check how much farther it would take to get there; there was obviously no signal in the middle of the ocean
it felt like forever before you saw land in the horizon
suddenly you regained all the energy you have lost from rowing
“there!! that place with the white tent, i can barely see it”
“finally”
with the burst of energy, you got to land in no time
the moment you got off your boat, the blonde spotted the two of you and ran in your direction
once appearing nearly feet apart, he stared at your brother who also had the shocked expression
“TOMMY?”
“TUBBO?”
your brother had more of a confused expression whilst the other boy seemed a bit mad
maybe he was always mad considering the endless conversations you had with him ranting about some ‘green bastard’
but tubbo quickly got defensive, stepping in front of you
you didn’t understand how they knew each other beforehand, but at the same time you never caught up with tubbo’s friends either
you needed answers
“what’s going on?”
“y/n! you were messaging tommy this whole time? why didn’t you tell me?”
tubbo was clearly frustrated and a feeling of guilt washed over you
it didn’t click that you never exchanged names and admitting it did not seem believable
tubbo was in complete shock, trying to process everything that was happening
“WHAT?! AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN TALKING?”
you mumbled out your words
“a few weeks, i can’t remember”
“uh, yeah sorry” tommy had confirmed your statements. “i didn’t even know you had a sibling, tubbo! i actually didn’t know their name until now as well..”
“HUH??”
“but if i knew i was messaging a tub-ling, i wouldn’t have in the first place!”
“what the fuck tommy!!!”
“no, but how do you even know each other?” you had interrupt the two
tubbo had chosen his words carefully
“we’re... friends”
tommy had seemed upset at this
“tubbo....”
“no, don’t talk to me, tommy. you were exiled for a reason. y/n? give him the stuff you wanted to him and let’s go, this was a waste of time”
you were saddened but obliged, you didn’t want to anger your brother even more
“fuck you, tubbo! can’t believe this was how you visit me for the first time, i don’t even want your pity shit”
before you could react, tubbo led you to the back of his boat
he got in the front and quickly rowed away from the land you barely stayed on, leaving your boat behind on the shores
you looked back at tommy who already had left back to his tent
the boat ride was silent and full of sorrow until you arrived back at l’manburg
once you got home you immediately opened snapchat to message tommy
hey tommy i’m really sorry about today. i had no idea,,,
you thought he would’ve ignored your message but instead replied right after
but your heart sank at reading the message
it’s fine
i think it’s best we stop talking y/n
you didn’t want to lose a friend so quickly but after all the tension from today, you didn’t know how to come back from it
so instead of arguing you agreed, even if it wasn’t honest
yeah, me too
and that was the last message you sent to tommy
even though the whole situation was confusing from the start, it didn’t mean you didn’t enjoy the random conversations you had
the bizarre encounter was unforgettable
it made you even sadder when you realized the first time you two used each other’s names through text would also be the last
a/n: ngl, i didn’t think i would finish this on a kinda angsty ending but here we are! and grrr it’s 4am and i just wanted to finish this,, let’s hope there aren’t that many grammar mistakes LMAO anyway i hope y’all enjoyed <3
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‘Fighting Back.’ Stream highlights:
Tommy still calls Dream his friend in this stream. 
Techno and Tommy go o get a dog and they go near Logstedshire. Tommy is understandable not okay with this. 
“I see a forest but I want to go home.”-Tommy. 
He is heavily breathing through this, probably a panic attack. 
“I’ve missed him so much.”-Tommy about Tommy about the idea of seeing Dream. 
They’re talking about Dream and then this happens. 
They put Tommy in a box made of trap doors as Dream heads over... Tommy ends up turning Techno invisible. This part is literally them yelling at each other and panicking it is hilarious. 
Dream comes to Techno’s and talks about Tommy being missing, he says L’Manberg thinks he’s dead this is the first Tommy hears of this. 
Dream searches the house and sees Techno’s plan for minor terrorism in L’Manberg, and doesn’t care. 
Dream doesn’t find Tommy and leaves :D 
Major sibling energy between Techno and Tommy this stream. I swear Techno is starting to care about him a little in a big brother way. Every time Tommy does something stupid Techno sounds very exasperated. 
Tommy goes to L’Manberg invisible and dragging a llama behind him, he pretends to be the llama. Messes with Ranboo generally is just a menace. 
Ranboo in chat “I hate llama’s.”
Tommy makes Ranboo join the chat pretending to be a talking llama to try and get steak off him??? He’s oddly aggressive lol this bit is great. He’s Clarencio the llama?
Ranboo dies, the llama dies and Tommy’s invisibility runs out, he’s still in L’Manberg. They take Ranboo’s stuff lmao.
Ranboo leaves the game. 
Also Tommy got his braces off and I literally didn’t notice until very late into this stream. He has teeth confirmed??
“I am going to shot encouraging words.”-Techno as Tommy struggles with the nether. 
People in chat are asking him to smile so of course Tommy farms some primes and doesn’t smile.
SCHLATT?!?!?!?!
SCHLATT JOINS JUST TO EAT DURING TOMMY’S STREAM?
They discuss what Schlatt’s ghost name should be Jcorpse is one, Glatt is another. 
“What the fuck is Mexican Dream?”-Jschlatt. 
Tommy and Schlatt call out Technoblade for not watching their content. 
“This dude  sounds like Quackity but I didn’t say it cause I didn’t want to be trending.”-Schlatt about Mexican Dream.
Tommy is trying to build a cobblestone tower this entire time (he’s watching a tutorial on reddit)... he’s fallen off it and died like two times. 
Technoblade destroys the scaffold tower that Tommy built while he is on it (very older brother of him). They then argue pointlessly. 
They decide on using Glatt even though we all know Jcorpse was clearly the right choice. 
“Yeah I glatted all over the walls.”-Tommy after they decide Glatt sounds like an adjective (i regret my entire life at this point). 
They really be out here bothering Techno because he isn’t subbed to them (he is, but he just has a life so obvi he’s not watching all their streams) 
“Catch this arrow in your forehead....” -Tommy shoots Techno “Nice miss idiot.” (little brother much).
“I’m not going to say bye to a guy who’s not subbed back.”-Tommy when Techno leaves. 
Connor joins to clarify that he is subbed to Tommy and Schlatt. 
“This is the worlds worst sub to sub relationship.”-Tommy still hung up about Techno not watching his content. 
Techno rejoins call after ending his stream. 
“Yeah I am making me a tower.”-Tommy to Connor. 
“It’s going to look so ugly.”-Techno
They’re brothers your honor. 
“We can swear now that you’re not streaming.”-Tommy even though he’s been swearing the whole time.  
“Oh it’s a different person?”-Connor about Mexican Dream. He called him “it” I am fucking dying.
“I’m done with him.”-Tommy about Mexican Dream :( 
Connor talks about how he never has to message Tommy to get info on him, he just checks twitter.
“It’s like his leading character trait is sleeping through things.”-Techno on George, he could not speak anything more true in his life. 
Tommy leaves as Schlatt discusses religion or smth I don’t know, and that is a wrap for this stream bois! Nothing too lore abt it other than Dream coming to Techno’s house (he def knew Tommy was there...)
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I'm loving all your ILY posts! I've also seen your comments on reddit and I enjoy reading your insightful analysis there, too. I would like to know your thoughts on Kousuke and Alyssa. Do you think they will become narrative foils? I noticed they were acting awkwardly around each other too (it kind of reminds me of how annoyed Soushi reacts around Maya) and she seems to have a crush on him 👀 I think she'll be used to contrast how he's still capable of redemption. 1/?
I mean Yui groomed them both successfully. They have shown to emulate her behavior, value their reputation over other people's feelings, and refuse to take accountability for their actions against Shin Ae and Nol. But unlike Kousuke, Alyssa has shown no hint of remorse or even guilt. 2/?
Waaahh thank you so much, anon! Isn't it silly that I still go :O when I realize people actually enjoy what I have to say? I started yelling into the void on tumblr because I got worried I was too active on reddit and I was possibly annoying people lmaooooo so I'm actually really glad you're able to find me on both platforms! It means a lot that I'm not just yelling into a total void.
If you don't mind, I'm breaking your ask down into two parts, because I might leave somethin off/this will get too long if I keep it all in one lol. BUT you bring up things I love to think about!!!!! So!!!!!
I think we are deliberately kept in the dark about Alyssa - whether it's to subvert the scheming girl trope, I'm not sure, but there's a lot of things we don't know about her and that's definitely on purpose. She's a character who probably won't be revealed more to us for a while yet, too, which is frustrating if only because I want to know everything NOW, but it does serve to make her more interesting.
Alyssa's interest in Kousuke is so obvious I can't believe I never noticed it in my original reads. I've seen this brushed off as "She just admires him" and I'm just like... she actually sulked for a moment about Kousuke leaving! Meanwhile she was straight up all but telling Nol she'll help him pack his bags lmao.
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I feel like the cast of her shadow is deliberate, too, but look at that face. Sulking.
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There's room to argue that we can't see Alyssa's face when she first tells him she won't stop him, but she kind of makes it abundantly clear that Nol being away doesn't really affect her. And, I mean, look at how their relationship is conducted. She's bragged to Meg that she and Nol are so casual and cool and easy breezy.
(I guess that means there ALSO is room to argue that Alyssa is putting on a front and just saying this to make sure people think her relationship is great, but the only People who know is Meg. And as a people pleaser, if Alyssa felt uncomfortable with the casual nature of her relationship with Nol, wouldn't she actually do more to make the relationship more of what she wants? Notably during the conversation on the balcony, she basically tells Nol this isn't really her dream relationship, which leads to the admission that they are together not for each other but for the benefits they each get so......)
Kousuke is the one who confuses me the most, because it strikes me as really weird that Yui has used Alyssa as leverage before against Kousuke. "You should bring a date, Kousuke, Alyssa will be there." What does this mean? What does it have to do with him and why would it entice him to bring anyone, anyway? I'm still really baffled on this one, tbh. Something that really stood out to me was during the dinner when Nol finally revealed he was planning to attend Oxford, Kousuke was distracted by his own news that the CFO position would be opening. In fact, when Nol mentions attending Oxford later, Kousuke seems to act like this is his first time hearing it.
Nol takes note of Kousuke's state of distraction before he finally starts talking about his plan.
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The way quim does the dialogue and suddenly Kousuke's interest returning is.... interesting isn't it? From the moment Nol notes Kousuke's disinterest, we don't see his face again until Rand brings up Alyssa. Quim doesn't do anything without reason - in a movie, you wouldn't waste film on Kousuke's interesting returning at the mention of Alysa unless it meant anything, right?
There's so many little moments that make me go what the heck is going on here, too.
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What the heck is up with THIS? Why does Kousuke deliberate SO LONG before he calls Alyssa? Like, do I think he's really so weirded out about calling his younger brother's girlfriend, considering he has one of his younger brother's own friends reporting on him and at his beck and call? You can't convince me that he's hesitant only because Alyssa is the sister of Meg. It just seems too wary.
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It really does have the same tone as Soushi's wariness of Maya, except is Kousuke wary of Alyssa in the same way? Is he wary of her intentions? This one is so hard for me to read, because frankly, at this point it's hard to tell if Kousuke even cares about Nol as a brother or because he was forced to and he feels deep-buried remorse for the way he treated him and doesn't know how to handle it. Is he just aware of Alyssa's keen interest in him and that puts him on edge? Would he even care about Alyssa's keen interest unless she starts to get pushy?
I HONESTLY HAVE NO IDEA and frankly, it drives me nuts, so I love to discuss this and see what other people have to say. I'd never even noticed how long he deliberates before finally calling her until someone on reddit pointed that out.
lmao this so much preamble to get to the point but anyway YES they are absolutely parallels and I do wonder if they would become foils. Again, it's hard to know with Alyssa because we've been deliberately shielded so much of her personality right now and it's hard to tell what's real and what's not with her. The way that she worries about Shinae telling Nol what she did absolutely reads to me as a lack of remorse, but maybe I'm just projecting because we haven't been given much reason to like her lol. Shinae definitely makes it seem like Alyssa never actually apologized and the way Shinae just brushes it off makes me feel like there was never actual, proper closure. What Alyssa did is worse than just causing her injury: it was why she did it and how she reacted like Shinae was something dirty and how dare she even talk to her even though Shinae probably just wanted to know why Alyssa stopped being friends with her. Maybe she was even seeking closure at the time.
In the same way that Nol and Shinae are mirrors, Kousuke and Alyssa are their parallel abusers, grooming victims of Yui, those who care more about their image and reputation than anything else and have hurt others (Nol and Shinae) in their quest to fill the role. We still don't know if Alyssa dated Nol because she genuinely had a crush (doubtful so far) or because she figured out the family he's from and wanted to get closer. I try so hard to give her the benefit of the doubt but narratively we aren't privy to that yet. Also, have you noticed that Nol and Shinae both have a relationship of some kind with each others' abuser? This mirror and their parallel abusers thing is INTRICATELY woven.
That's what makes it so difficult to tell if she'll become a foil or merely a parallel that highlights what Nol and Shinae have been through. We know Kousuke will receive a redemption arc, because he's a main character, and also because I think part of subverting his trope is that he has to take responsibility for his past actions, rather than being loved in spite of the things he's done or whatever. In order for Kousuke to proper and develop further, he has to be held accountable and he has to break free of his family. Can we trust the same for Alyssa? At this point, she doesn't want to lose Nol because she knows if she loses him, she can just as easily lose her career and access to the world she's only just gained access to (and if she were to lose it all right now, it would be worse for her because she'd have all those trainee fees to pay back).
I think both Kousuke and Alyssa are likely in for a very public airing of their sins; for Kousuke it may come in the form of the expose YuJing is working on, collateral damage in the quest to take down Yui. I also think the only way to nudge Kousuke to change is that his image has to take a hit in some form. Is it that Rand isn't his father? Is it a reveal that he abused his brother? Is it whatever happened in the past that Nol got in trouble for was caused by Kousuke and he let Nol take the blame? Likewise, I think the fact that people knew Alyssa in middle school means she's not so safe, either; what if one of the girls from after school duty reveals what happened? Surely there were rumors going around school about what happened - Shinae is out of school, Alyssa is pulled from school, kids talk. Frankly, a scandal like that could ruin her career, and worse, if Nol knew what she had done, would he be able to remain shackled to her?
While I know Kousuke won't immediately take responsibility for his actions, I've always believed that such a catalyst would at least make him start thinking about it and force him to admit it. It wouldn't happen over night, but in time it will. But will Alyssa? Would she deny the allegations? Would she just shift blame, insist that it was all an accident, that it wasn't bullying like you think? (Cos look, I do believe it was an accident, but there's a way to call it an accident and still admit fault and blame; but just as easily you can call it an accident and try to shirk responsibility.)
I do love the idea of her being a foil for Kousuke, an Aesop's fable, if you will, of what happens when you barter with the devil (Yui). I'm not opposed to the scheming female character type, but I do oppose it when they take down others to raise themselves up, and if that's the way Alyssa will end up doing it, then I'll be happy to watch her fall. If she can scheme and use her connections without hurting people then hey power to ya. Unlike Alyssa, Kousuke never had a chance to evade Yui, and being able to walk away from her as an adult will be a choice he can make. Alyssa loses... so much if she breaks her deal.
I guess that's the thing about where she and Nol are in their relationship now - it's been made clear he's hanging in here because he's forced to and as a sort of act of self-sabotage, full well knowing she's here because she's taking advantage of the opportunities that "dating" him brings so... if they're in an agreement, is it okay to watch her climb right now? She leaves me conflicted and I know it's largely because she's one of the characters we know just enough to hate but so little to justify. Could it be that it all just got out of hand for her? At first she just wanted friends, was trying to find a place to belong, something good in a life that deprived her of social connections. And then comes along Yui, seducing her with ideas of fame and fortune? Was the desire to be loved and admired so strong it powered over the need to fit in with friends and she readily cast them off? Did she not anticipate what it would actually mean, thought she could have her cake and eat it, too? The way she responds to Nol's texts, and the fact that Dieter and Soushi ask him about her, means she probably isn't even in touch with them at all anymore. Idk, I really look forward to seeing their dynamic pre-idol Alyssa, because I want to know how she fit with them, what was it like?
And then, because this was supposed to be about foils lmao you have the fact that Shinae basically foils both Alyssa and Kousuke in regard to Nol, both as a person who cares about him and also as "a good friend" vs "the person I'm currently seeing" lmao like, everyone is literally set to juxtapose each other and man, I'll never get over how well this has been done lmao. Compared to Kousuke and Alyssa, Shinae is the one who accepts responsibility even when it's difficult, who knows when and how to swallow her pride (even if she's not the one who should) and I think it's why she is the one seen a the champion at Nol's side - they are the ones who care little for their images and who know how to apologize (even when they aren't the ones who should be) and that's why they are at each other's sides.
So yes, this is a very long essay response lol to essentially say: I'm still undecided if I think Alyssa will become a foil or merely remain a parallel. I would love to see her redeem herself but something tells me not all characters in this story will be redeeamable. Maybe one day we'll understand her motivation, even if we don't agree with it. I hope at the very least she makes peace with Shinae, but I get the feeling she'll be forced into it (as in, her secret gets ousted) and that's not as satisfying, but hey, if it helps Shinae then I'm for it.
A friend of mine has mused that maybe Alyssa will be the one to oust the secret herself and I'm ngl, I like that idea though it does feel kind of vindictive towards her character. Maybe accidentally spilling it to Nol would be the segue to a couple episodes from her POV though!
Gosh this was so long I'm so sorry lmao but please follow up with your thoughts and feelings, too, or if this made you think of anything or what! I think at this point in the story we've been given a lot of information but we just don't have enough of it to totally piece together what we're supposed to be seeing. I think Kousuke and Alyssa's weirdness around each other is very deliberate, though, and I'm not sure "She's Meg's sister" is enough to warrant so many panels of Kou being SO WEIRD about her, you know? Am I missing thing? Is there more to be revealed? Are we just blind? lmao Aaaahhhhhhhhhhh
#I Love Yoo#ILY Brainrot#Alyssa Cho#Kousuke Hirahara#at this point always anticipate a read more cos whew i can't shut up!#BUT I'VE BEEN FIXATED ON THIS FOR A WHILE NOW AND I STILL HAVEN'T COME TO A CONCLUSION I LIKE#AND I'VE BEEN DYING TO TALK A LITTLE ABOUT ALYSSA AND KOUSUKE AS UNREPENTENT PARALLELS AND YUI PUPPETS#the way that Nol and Shinae are mirrors and they each have their own version of Kousuke/Alyssa#and conveniently they each have a relationship of some sort with each others abusers does not escape me#what will Shinae think when she finds out how Kousuke has treated Nol?#What will Nol think when he finds out who Alyssa was during her brief stint at public school#I'm dying for flashbacks with Alyssa because I JUST! WANT! TO UNDERSTAND!!!!!!!#so far it's so easy to villify her because we don't know otherwise#we've been given no reason to justify or forgive her#and you know what i am okay with villifying a character like her in a story with some pretty dimensional female characters#Maya is one such character who was easy for readers to hate but redeemed herself by being mature and honest with Shinae#do I trust Alyssa to be mature and honest?#only if she ever becomes okay with the idea of losing her image#i think that's a big thing for Kousuke and Alyssa?#at some point Kousuke will realize his image is a fraud#something he was manipulated into despite what he likes to believe#and once he comes to that realization after he breaks down and crumbles and rebuilds he will find a new path and build his own image#one of his own making#but Alyssa....? Who or what would she be if she lost her image?#if she couldn't control the narrative?#AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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nct 127 kibbe types
key: (D) dramatic, (SD) soft dramatic, (FN) flamboyant natural, (N) natural, (SN) soft natural, (DC) dramatic classic, (C) classic, (SC) soft classic, (FG) flamboyant gamine, (G) gamine, (SG) soft gamine, (TR) theatrical romantic, (R) romantic
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the boyss ! ! ! 
taeil: SG? little unsure about this one... i considered R but his limbs are longer than an Rs would be but i would probably say he has a R essence as flowier fabrics like this look good on him
relatively large head in comparison to body
isnt delicate the way a TR would be
also TR lines don’t look great on him
im so sorry i always use ten for TR but like, TRs are freaking hard to type and hes non ambiguous so whoops
you can really see the contrast here
i feel like they always style him as a FG? and he just doesn’t have the yang to handle it 
think all the hair colors, excess excess amount of details that ty wears a lot
johnny: SD - sliGht C undertone 
long and lanky ass balloon man
thats all i got... jk. kinda
not a D, too much yin.
i’ve seen FN but really, hes not frame dominant, just looks tallish with a little squish in him
handles details decently well - oversized isn’t the best look
the reason i said a tiny c essence/undertone is because i prefer him in more minimalist SD clothing, more detail does start to look a little ridiculous (i promise i mean that in the nicest way possible lol, don’t come for my entp ass)
the classic comes in cause he looks PHENOMENAL in traditionally classic lines with a little umph and also looser classic lines (the yin in SD)
i needed to include this masterpiece
taeyong: FG. ah yes, the debate about ty... some argue D but he just doesn’t have the vertical line
(sitting somewhere btween D and FG, but FG fits better)
obviously a yang type
but you immediately remove any sort of natural and SD cause he isn’t wide and he isn’t squishy
doesn’t have the vertical line for a D, even from a lower angle you don’t look at him and go “yes, hes really tall” and thats what Ds are really about
it doesn’t matter how tall someone actually is, its how tall they appear to be, and taeyong just looks his height
think about how well ty carries every concept
thats a FG thing. (i can’t find the exact quote but a staff member said that its really interesting to style ty because u can put so many elements on him without it overpowering him
yuta: FG. if taeyong is a FG then so is Yuta
somewhere on the spectrum between FG and D but has to be put in FG just cause a dramatic’s first and foremost trait is vertical line
my next guess would be SD but really he doesnt have enough yin in him, hes all sharp
but because hes sitting somewhere in between he’s not gonna carry as much detail as a “purer(?)” FG
hes 100% yang based but doesn’t have the vertical line of a pure D
this looks phenomenal
he looks like a friggin anime character excUse me sir
i’m fine no i’m not
doyoung (dongyoung): SD. i’ve seen DC, and i do get the argument, but he isn’t as sharp as a DC would be.
you take a look at this and he just isn’t sharp in the way that seonghwa or vernon are
hes definitely a yang type but hes got an undercurrent of yin 
how do i explain this
SDs actually have a lot more yin than DCs despite them being placed closer to dramatic in a lot of graphs. (you know the ones i’m talking about)
even if you could make an argument for vertical line (as i think doyoung has a moderate to long one)
kai (a DC/C) is over 180 and yes he has a vertical line, but he has more yang than doyoung - hes just more boxy and has less yin
when i’m having trouble typing an idol i start looking really heavily at outfits and how they suit each style
doyoung just doesn’t make classic suits pop in the way a DC would
he looks restricted and needs a little extra yin detail to match 
the neck scarf with the draping absolutely ties this look together and he absolutely rocks it
he just doesn’t give me DC vibes and i really do think that SD fits him better
jaehyun: SC. leaning on pure classic with some sort of yin essence
okay, ngl i had problems with this one
I saw somewhere (probably reddit lmao) that jaehyun has a SD head on a not SD body... and i couldn’t agree more
my first instinct was to go to SD but really, he doesn’t have the vertical line and details don’t feel right
idk if its just how he’s styled but i really can’t find an era where i lOve what jaehyun is in
i genuinely think he’s just a larger boned SC with some SD mixed in with a weird combo of essences
a good example of a SC ish look is this where you can see the moderate vertical line (despite being 5′11/180)
it might be my personal bias coming in but i really do like him in more minimal and somewhat looser clothing opposed to him drowning in details
this confuses me cause it feels like it should work but it doesn’t...
this looks awesome this is pretty darn decent but i still feel like something is missing 
i compared jae’s vertical line to the SC poster boy joshua (svt 5th from the left) and kai (DC/C) and felt they josh’s was pretty similar but really, i wouldn’t rule out any of the classics or SD
idk if its just how he’s styled but i really can’t find an era where i lOve what jaehyun is in
tldr: big boned SC and thats as close as i’m gonna get lol
mark: FG. pretty self explanatory lol
leaning yang but obviously not a natural or (S) dramatic or classic
leaves you with FG
very sharp facial features
sharp sharp sharp
and a decent vertical line (looks his height ish)
rocks pretty much every hair color on the planet
if you asked me to nail down an essence i wouldn’t be able to hes just a FG lol
jungwoo: FN. classic essence
heres my problem with jungwoo... like jaehyun his type gets really ambiguous cause of essences not matching his actual body type (classic essence, FN type in this case)
because really, hes just too tall to be a DC,
too box like for SD
and his skin is much too yin to be a pure D (he is very squish, a true D - wonwoo svt is taught and yang through and through)
and once you rule out DC cause of height you’re kinda left with??
but his vertical line is just too prominent to be a DC, but hes not as shoulder heavy as most FNs and just?
*insert clown face*
a DC wouldn’t carry an oversized outfit like this
i actually like him in stuff like this, if not a little less oversized, he just looks so cozy
this gets close-ish but he looks a tad bit constricted
the reason i finally just gave in to FN is cause its as close as i think i can get. SD and D aren’t right, hes not a SN or pure N (jun svt) and in this pic (and others) you can kinda start to see that he IS actually more frame dominant than you first expect. (think like yanan pentagon, - minus the shoulders - super long limbs, lanky but still relatively squarish)
so FN it is
tldr: FN with a classic essence cause really thats (imo) the closest and best option you have and confused kpop fan 
haechan (donghyuck): G. right now i would put him in pure G but he might hit FG at some point in the future cause he isn’t 21 in international age and his type is still settling
boom vs resonance
okay its not that different but i sWEar hes picked up more yang somewhere
not a SG because his isn’t absolutely massive in comparison to the rest of his body 
chenle i’m looking at you (fifth from the left)
moderate to short-ish vertical line
sharp jawline vs squish face but he doesn’t have the sharp yang of a FG (mark)
just still got some squish on him 
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