#intersex things

[intersexcat-tboy]

Maybe it's being intersex maybe it's being trans but I think the "force feminize our femboys, real femboys take e" jokes are all absolutely disgusting. I understand it's a joke about trans women eggs but it does not rinse the rancid taste from my mouth.

I was forced against my will to be feminized. I was traumatized, watching each day my body further betray me. Trans femboys exist. There shouldn't be barely ironic jokes about forcing or pressuring people into transitioning. Not in the sense of "one trans person represents all of us to bigots" but in the "we are fucking trans and should understand being against forcing someone into a gender. It's not funny just because you have the power" way

#intersex things #actually intersex #intersex #transintersex #trans theory #trans things #anti transmasculinity #transandrophobia #purrspectives

[theforesteldritch]

They should invent a kind of testosterone that works on me

#intersex #intersex things #bad voice dysphoria rn and I also want some small facial hair so bad rn and. None of that is probably ever going to happen for me #I just want a voice I can really feel in my throat #And I want stubble on my chin #And I can’t have it #at least at least I’m genderfluid. So I don’t always have this bad dysphoria #But I think if I could go on T at some point and have it work #I would

[azuremist]

TME and TMA as intersexist terms: as written by an intersex transfem

I’ve had a few different people in my inbox asking me why I view these terms the way I do. In particular, why I claim it’s intersexist. So, I thought I’d lay out a few examples, so everyone can understand where I’m coming from.

Imagine an intersex woman. She was assigned female at birth by her doctors, and was able to go about her childhood as a woman with no inclination that anything was amiss. Sure, she didn’t experience certain parts of puberty, but puberty was different for everyone, right?

But, later in life, she learns she has Turner syndrome. This is an intersex condition where a woman has only one X chromosome, rather than the usual two.

Soon after she learns this, she finds that laws are being made to attempt to keep trans women out of women’s spaces (often specifically sports) which use chromosomes as a defining factor of womanhood.

Would this intersex person be considered “transmisogyny affected”? She has been raised as a cisgender woman with no problems regarding being ‘clocked’, but she is also a direct target of transmisogynistic laws. She lies in a gray area.

Now, let’s go to another intersex person. Imagine an intersex man with PAIS. AIS is an intersex condition where babies are born with testes and XY chromosomes, but their body is immune to or can’t respond to androgens (which includes testosterone). Intersex people with partial AIS (PAIS) often develop a vulva and clitoris during puberty.

This intersex person identifies as a man, and he was assigned male at birth. However, his body does not produce testosterone, and he went through a feminizing puberty. To the average eye, he appears to be a woman now because of this.

Would this intersex person be considered “transmisogyny affected?” He was assigned male at birth, and now appears to be a woman, much like many transfems. However, if many saw how he looks now, stating that he is a male, they would probably clock him as transmasc. He was raised as a boy until puberty, and then faced astrozcization from his peers when he began a puberty that feminized him. What he was facing was a form of intersexism where transmisogyny was playing a huge part. Does his childhood matter? Can one become TME over time, when they were TMA as a child? Again, he lies in a gray area, where the answer is not quite so simple.

What about the “opposite”, per se — an intersex woman who had a masculinizing puberty? She has aromatase deficiency, which means that many ‘male’ hormones (which would usually be converted to ‘female’ hormones) would remain unconverted. She identifies as a woman, and was identified as a female at birth and was raised, until puberty, as a female. But now, she would be clocked as a trans woman upon looking at her. What does that make her? Is it different from the previous example? How and why? This intersex person also lies in a gray area. How she should be described with these terms is not clear.

And keep in mind, these are all relatively simple examples. All of the examples I listed self-identify as cisgender. But there are intersex people who are trans in any direction you can imagine.

If that last example identified as a trans woman, because she is now clocked as one, would you be able to say she’s wrong for that? What about if she identified as transmasculine, because of her experience with puberty? What if she’s multigender, bigender or genderfluid, and says she’s both transmasc and transfem because of her complicated experiences? Would that make her a TMA transmasculine person? But I thought that transmascs were all TME? That’s how it’s so often framed, anyway.

The reason why these questions are so difficult to answer is because these terms were not made with intersex people in mind. Very real intersex transfems were pushed to the wayside in favor of centering the perisex view of transgenderism. Intersex people are nothing but an inconvenient little afterthought, annoying perisex people with their demand for “inclusion” and “consideration”. (As per usual.)

You cannot simply make a new gender binary and say, “No, really, this time everyone fits into these two categories! Forcing people to confine themselves to these two rigid labels which are shown as opposites, and as never interacting, will definitely include everyone this time!!” No matter what the contents of the new binary is, it’s not going to work, because sex and gender alike are too complicated for that. There will always be people in the gray area.

This isn’t even getting into the fact that these terms, for all intents and purposes, seem to have been popularized by and associated with the Baeddelism movement around 2017, which was essentially “Radical Feminism 2: We’re Trans Women, So It’s Fine!” This movement is known for chronic villainization of trans men and non-binary people who aren’t transfem. (They act like this with cis people too, but noticeably less so than they do with non-transfem trans people. How curious.) Think along the lines of how regular radfems treat all men (and who they deem to be men) as inherently morally disgusting scum who deserve to be attacked.

Methinks that maybe these terms aren’t the neutral, fact-based descriptors of oppression that many people nowadays tout them to be, considering that.

So, yeah. “Transmisogyny exempt” and “transmisogyny affected” as terms: not even once. Listen to intersex people, stop trying to make sex and gender into binaries, and for the love of God, stop drinking the queer seperationist koolaid!

#intersex #intersexism #lgbt #transgender #actually intersex #long post #azure does a thing #i’ll get off my soapbox now #btw if you’re gonna argue with me on whether or not it’s intersexist you’d Better be intersex #or so help me god i will (REDACTED BECAUSE TRANSFEMS CANT JOKINGLY THREATEN VIOLENCE APPARENTLY)

[skribblez]

I love you trans boys with high pitch voices

I love you trans girls with deep voices

I love you nonbinary folks who arent as androgynous as they want to be

I love you closeted transgenders

I love you maaculine presenting nonbinaries

I love you feminine presenting nonbinaries

I love you trans boys who aren’t masculine

I love you trans girls who aren’t feminine

I love you mentally ill transgenders

I love you xenogenders

I love you agenders

I love you genderfluids

I love you intersex people

I love you those who are still figuring it out

I love you chubby transgenders

I love you skinny transgenders

I love you transgenders that can't take hormones

I love you transgenders who can't get surgery

I love you transgenders who aren't safe at home

I love you trans men and nonbinaries who can't get a binder

I love you trans girls and no binaries who can't get feminine clothing

I love you transgenders ❤️

#transgender #trans #intersex #nonbinary #lgbtq #lgbt #lgbt pride #lgbtq community #lgbtqia #queer #pride #queer pride #positivity #not tagging this under my normal thing bc this is important #trangender positivity

[purpleflameb0i]

Terfs and radfems be like "don't reduce a woman only to her genitals and womb!!" And then do exactly that

#anti radfem #anti terf #trans #transgender #intersex #Like #If you're gonna be a feminist #do it right #include EVERY woman #Not every woman has those things

[justdavina]

Such a pretty transgender woman!

#trans #transgender #queer #transgirl #transfem #lgbtlove #lgbtqia #trans pride #transgenderwoman #trans community #cisgender #gender identity #cis men dni #genderqueer #gender envy #fluid gender #gender stuff #genderfluid #trans stuff #queer stuff #trans things #intersex #queerness #gender critical #gender ideology #gurl #sexy gurl #hot gurls #mtf #trans girl

[intersexcat-tboy]

Over the years, I've felt more and more alienated, excluded, and ostracized from the trans community. Like I'm barely allowed to be there. Often, it's not even due to my own feelings on my gender, but rather me telling perisex trans people intersex experiences.

If I say "hey, not all people who don't agree with their AGAB are trans. It's not always as simple as being cis OR trans," I'm told I need a deep look into my transphobia, that apparently I think trans is a "dirty word". Someone not being trans isn't transphobic!

I see perisex trans people using our existences and stories for discourse or debates, but completely ignore how we exist at any other time.

Here's part of an interaction I had with someone I used to consider a friend. Their post said "you're either cis or trans […] it's not that complicated". I made a comment saying how it may not factor in how, for some intersex individuals it is complicated (such as AFAB trans women or cistrans) or how some don't like using either bc they're perisex centered ideas.

The following are some screenshots my friend sent me. She had liked my comment and the OP decided to message her asking what cistrans is.

It makes me furious. "It's a little more complicated than that for intersex people" "not really?" Who the fuck are you to speak on intersex expierences? They had sent me a DM as well, patronizingly saying how my friend had a "misunderstanding as to what cis meant" 🙄

#intersex things #intersexism #intersex erasure #transintersex #purrspectives #trans intersexism

[wc-confessions]

wtf is "intersex" and why are people shouting that certain cats (or sometimes ALL CATS??) are it???? Is this a gender thing that I'm ignorant of? Cuz that's cool I'd be happy to learn- but google says intersex relates to the actual physical body parts, and I'm just- Why do people care about this??????

Gender is one thing- affirming that shit correctly is SUPER important and I love the different hc's and interpretations there in ALL fandoms tbh, not just wc. But the actual physical body parts- how is that relevant. Why does anyone care. What are you using that info for. Why are people thinking about different body parts for these cats????.... Like why does a calico like Redtail HAVE to be intersex- does that mean something OTHER than Redtail having both male and female body parts??????? AND WHY IS THAT IN MY HEAD. I've never heard of an intersex pet cat in reality, even after working at the vet, is this just a genetics thing????

Like sure being able to have children can sometimes distinguish a character in terms of whether they will adopt or carry kits- but otherwise... why do people care what's swinging between the legs? What value is that info? Are these people DRAWING GENITALS OR SOMETHING??????

(Sorry if this ask is kinda iffy. I 100% understand if this ask gets deleted)

male calico cats are all considered intersex. the calico coat pattern is directly linked to two x chromosomes, which is why most calicos are usually female. male calicos have the xxy chromosomes which makes them intersex. redtail is intersex.

-mod ashensky

#not a confession #intersexism cw #like this is such a gross thing to say anon. do some research on what intersex is and how male calicos work before saying stuff like this

[turtleblogatlast]

Feeling a lot of trans Leo feelings rn and I would like to reiterate how possible it is for him to not only be trans but also have no idea at all about it.

Okay so, he’s bigger than Donnie, particularly carapace wise, which tends to be the case when the slider is female and the softshell is male.

Second, his coloring. He retains the same coloring his whole life, even as a much older adult, so there’s another tick in the trans checklist, especially being that said coloring is noticeably bright.

His demeanor is also pretty at odds from most male red eared sliders - one example of this being when Bullhop was staying with them and Leo is noticeably less angered by him being both in their territory and in general than the others are - male red eared sliders would be way more combative here.

Like alone none of these are 100% definitive indicators but all together it makes perfect sense to me personally.

Now, how would it work for Leo to not know?

Okay, bear with me, but I like to think it’s because of Splinter’s (or rather, Lou Jitsu’s) genetics! As in, of course Leo wouldn’t assume otherwise, after all, his human self is very masc, including his lower voice and overall body type, so he and his family would have no reason to assume that he’s actually trans! But I personally like to think that it is because of Lou Jitsu’s DNA that Leo’s humanoid half turned out so masc in comparison to his more female aligning turtle half.

So yeah. Female red eared slider mutated with the DNA of a human man equals a turtle teen with no idea he’s trans (or potentially intersex.)

#rottmnt #rise leo #rottmnt leo #trans leonardo #rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles #rottmnt headcanons #trans masc leonardo #the one headcanon I refuse to part with 😤 #I especially like this too because it in turn makes the boy’s voices in the show when they’re little make more sense haha #like obvs it’s because the voice actors are grown men so they can’t sound like children #BUT it’s funny to look at because hello these are babies with very low voices #of course this is all for design or for show reasons #but in retrospect it’s fun to look into more because it makes things like this work out that much better #I know ppl may disagree but alas! I cannot help but see rise leo as afab- or at least intersex due to mutation #it makes me happy #surprise trans Leo is so good #side note but putting Lou Jitsu’s adult human male dna into the turtles when they were infants is also why I think they were so wonky- #-immediately after they mutated #their proportions were much more align with an older human’s than a baby’s and it’s only later that they grew into more toddler-esque bodies #only to revert back to similar proportions upon reaching teenage years #it’s actually fun to think about because imagine being splinter in this scenario #he’s already dealing with his own transformations how the heck should he know what is and isn’t out of the ordinary

[thee-radio-host-is-a-kookaburra]

every day i log onto tumblr and resist to urge to tear apart perisex queer ppl with my bare hands

#max squawks #LET INTERSEX PEOPLE HAVE A VOICE FFS #STOP MAKING STUPID SEX BINARIES #LISTEN TO US WHEN WE SAY THINGS ARE INTERSEXIST #LISTEN TO INTERSEX PEOPLE #STOP TALKING OVER US #actually intersex #intersex #intersexism

[talisidekick]

For those coming into the 2SLGBTQIA+ community for the first time, those of you just peaking out of the closet, those of you lurking in the shadows, and allies: I have three words for you to learn in your fight against bigotry, against discrimination:

Obdurate - stubbornly refusing to change ones opinion, beliefs, understanding, or course of action.

Obstinate - stubbornly refusing to change ones opinion, beliefs, understanding, or course of action despite attempts to persuade one to do so.

Ignorant - lacking knowledge or awareness, uneducated or unsophisticated.

Many bigots often aren't ignorant. They don't need to be educated, because they won't listen to it. They're obdurate, and this can be easily determined within a few minutes of trying to reason or debate when their obstinance shows.

This isn't saying 'don't ever try to educate', this is saying 'learn how to read your audience and learn when and how to quit'. If someone is being willfully ignorant and unsophisticated (ie. obdurate) on an enlightening and sophisticated topic and won't consider any opposition (ie. being obstinant), there's no point in continuing because all they're doing is having fun being deliberately uneducatable. Instead, call them out on it. Point at what they're doing and why you're declining to play. You have two really good words here to add to your vocabulary.

And as a reminder: being bigoted is a fun game for them, one designed to make you look ridiculous. Don't play. They're there to win and they've already given themselves first place and you last. Just leave, or if you have the mind for it, change the rules and play a different one, but honestly, most times it's best to just leave. You can't force someone to change against their will, only leave them behind.

#2slgbtqia+ #lgbtqia+ #lgbtq+ #lgbt+ #lesbian #gay #bi #trans #queer #questioning #intersex #aromantic #asexual #two spirit #talisidekick #talisidekick things

[dumbdomb]

pervy friend that loves fondling your body when no one is looking, even in public. caressing under your clothes as they frot and, sometimes, dry hump you to get themselves off. knowing it turns you on to be felt up, pleading for you to let them cum in their pants. holding on to parts of your body as they frot faster, mindlessly repeating, "i wanna cum on you... fucking you... please, let me? may i... i... wanna cum... say yes... please? feel how hard i am, wanna cum for you..." ♡

Read my pinned before you interact! 18+ only.

#dom bottom #cnc k!nk #queer nsft #gender neutral nsft #trans nsft #ftm nsft #nonbinary nsft #transmasc nsft #intersex nsft #bi nsft #the friend thing #domb brain #my favourite thing 🥵

[angel-archivist]

It's so interesting and so exceedingly frustrating how agab is being utilized now within the queer community as a way to isolate and sort nonbinary and genderqueer folks into binary boxes that determine their moral purity levels, and their authority to do and write and exist.

The way nonbinary writers are being put under accusation of fetishizing gay men while their AGAB is continually brought up in a way that feels like queer-space-approved misgendering.

The way feminist circles that are supposedly trans-inclusive will use the word AFAB in a way that implicitly but intentionally isolates nonbinary people who aren't AFAB from joining. It's for women*.

The way the language is already flawed and leaves out intersex folks from the conversations while focusing on a binary of sex that isn't truthful.

The constant obsessing over whether someone is AFAB or AMAB and whether or not that gives them the privilege to join, do, write, or be present in certain spaces really really concerns me. How are we supposed to dismantle a binary system of gender if we can't even move past forcibly assigning and focusing on people's genders assigned at birth?

#and yes i understand! that agab language can in some circumstances be helpful in inclusive language and in the medical world but ultimately #is misgendering and unnecessary it should be up to the person to disclose their agab not an expectation of them to give up freely #I think that inclusive language shouldnt be misgendering in nature and agab as far as i can tell should only be used in select discussions #and certainly not as a way to frame a nonbinary writer as a “biological woman” but in a way where the queer community will nod along and sa #“oh they have a point” because you used the word AFAB instead #honestly afab is the term i see used most frequently and most harmfully towards other nonbinary people who don't identify w the label #to exclude trans women and amab nonbinary people #to frame nonbinary people as “still women” because of their assigned gender at birth #also i understand its not as simple as “not using” these terms bc they still serve a purpose and are important #but as they leave the queer community and as they enter the hands of cis queer people they become weapons #i wish i could like manifest my thoughts super clearly but i really cant bc its a difficult situation #its just another example of misogyny and bio-essentialism creeping into the queer community #because the patriarchy impacts all things including our discussions of trans oppression and gender we need to stop viewing it #as a strict binary of male female and oh sometimes we'll mention nonbinary people but we're all afab and amabs at the end of the day <3 #like flames literal flames #if you wanna like chip into the conversation just shoot me an ask or respond to the post i'd love to hear other peoples perspectives #im not infalliable so if i said anything you view as incorrect especially in regards to intersex folks and how you all would like to be #included in these discussions as im not intersex but am aware of how agab is a subject that leans into the idea of a binary of sex #so yeah rant over <3 #retro.bullshit #rant