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#still doesn't excuse narcissistic manipulation though
awaiting-my-escape · 2 years
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Oh just in case I'm being scrutinized by someone who really could be doing a million other things that would be actually responsible instead of neurotic, obsessive, and narcissistic, the incorrect label you were looking for was "pretentious", but that's more of that whole projection thing that's textbook for narcissists and is not an accurate label.
Like for real I'm just trying to live my life and grow as a person so when I said I wasn't going to play narcissist's games with people who would rather waste time clowning around trying to "win" rather than also being mature and responsible and growing as people, I meant it. I don't need to dig for receipts, I never had any desire to use them, but even if I did they've not been made hard to access. I do not want to be involved in nonsense and if this were truly a game that I was forced into, I would quit.
If I am forced to continue playing a game which should have never been started, I will release what I have and the outcome will be brutal. Quit while you're ahead. I know it's virtually impossible for me to win a narcissist's game, but I absolutely know how to make everyone lose. Do not force my hand.
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privitivium · 25 days
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Nah cuz cheating!reader is wild especially if they can manipulate the yans to 'dealing and being fine with it' like the possibilities are endless. oh you wanna talk about loyalty, then why did you let that shop keeper flirt with you, that's what I thought end of discussion. And will proceed to cheat again, again so many scenarios to think of this, and not to mention how the yans would react, I can imagine one of them 'being fine' but then doing a full 180 and killing the fling and can't hate cheating!reader bc they make them feel special.. even though they are cheating
cheating on ur yandere boyfriend ?!
can't stop thinking about this,,, i have another thought about milkman reader milking househusband. mmm.
amab, narcissistic!dom!reader. mainly thinking of motherly yandere but it works with any i think /// oral/blowjob
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your boyfriend... ( he liked husband better - even if he wasn't, ) he just wants to love you, is all. he wants to be the only one to love you... intimately. he doesn't want anyone else to know your body like he does. he can't fathom the thought of someone touching you - caressing your skin, running their hands over their scratch marks left behind - but the proof was right in front of his face. irrefutable... this fucking tramp is the one you want to stick your dick into? good god... but fine. whatever you want. do whatever you want as long as you stay with him.
until he decides he has enough. the jealousy makes him sick and you seem to not care...
"who was that, honey?" he makes a point not to look at you, hunched over at the island of the kitchen. closing the front door after departing from your fling - date night. rather lovely... you inhale, exhale deeply. "none of your business, sweetheart." you run your hand along his back, gently as if comforting him when near. he trembles. you were so shameless... bringing them around the house now?
"what... happened?" his bottom lip trembles, finding the balls to look up at you. eyes glazed over with tears - merely in his feelings as he was nursing an aged bottle of jack like a fucking nerd.
"what do you mean?" you sigh, tilting your head at your lovers' antics. finding him to be a bit of a joke. wondering if you could still make use of his hand. "j-just... you... bringing other men around the house." he chokes out, nearly breaking down in sobs. alcohol makes him more sensitive. a fucking crybaby. "i- i don't want to... see it..." see you bring any other whore around... see you fall out of love?
"what was that?" you huff, crossing your arms over your chest. giving him a look. his heart clenches in his chest, staring you down,,, what do you mean? what was what? before he could utter a word, you were cutting him off and giving him no room to talk as you shuffled closer - chest to chest and pinning him to the counter.
"don't want to see it?" you mocked, hands steering clear of landing on his body.
ㅡ"you know what i don't want to see? huh? giving that damn barista guy bedroom eyes and you wanna talk about me having a fling?" good lord the two were not at all equal - and he didn't have the chance to splutter excuses of not giving a barista bedroom eyes - ( he'd never !!! )ㅡyou didn't care.
you strived for making him feel bad. to make him upset and beg for forgiveness... and my goodness was he gonna forgive you!! down on his knees, begging you please... slobbering all over your cock, lapping up the mixture of his own spit and your cum dribbling from your cock like a leaky faucet.
he's sure he gives oral better. haughty as he wipes the excess of your cum from dripping down his chin, eagerly lapping it up from his digits while gazing up at you fondly. a corpse can't give oral.
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Homelander being obsessed with his sister HC IV
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Warnings: heavy siblingxsibling implications, Homelander being such a narcissist that he falls in "love" with his own sibling, dubcon, noncon, manipulation, stalking, basically all the horrible parts of HL come out to play, MC has blonde hair and blue eyes like HL, different plot than 'All I Ever Wanted, All I Ever Needed', kidnapping,
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With you and Homelander demolishing the top floor of Vought Tower with your fighting, the rest of the floors are forced to evacuate.
You're younger and smaller than Homelander. Worse was your inexperience with fighting against another supe of his pedigree.
I imagine that somehow you manage to escape and get away but it's only a matter of time before Homelander sniffs you out. But both of you are battered from the fight, each tired.
He doesn't try to fight you. instead he sits down next to you, heaving out a sigh. You're scared, you won't lie. At any moment HL could just turn to you and grab you.
"I'm just. . . terrified to lose you again." HL finally admits. You've heard how he was raised. That isolating loneliness along with the terrible trials they put him through must have really fucked him up. You couldn't even fathom what he'd went through.
That was still no excuse for him kidnapping you. He understood what he had down in keeping you against your will. How else would he be sure he'd ever see you again?
There was obvious desperation in his voice, a tremor in his blue eyes as he has a death grip on your hand. He was just a child. An overgrown, murderous child that had never experienced genuine love and affection.
Don't get me wrong, you are fucking furious. You were kept against your will. You felt like his goddamn canary in a gilded cage. You'd never felt so powerless in your entire life. You hated that feeling. Was that how civilians felt around you?
All that time left alone in his apartment gave you a lot to think about. You'd rolled the situation over and over in your head. Analyzing all that you knew and all that you were still learning.
Both of you spend hours there, just talking. More than you had during your entire captivity. It was difficult for Homelander to be honest about his feelings. He told you all the fucked up shit he'd done. You tell him your own fears and he really listens.
By no means though have you forgiven him. You point that out but say "I suppose the only way you can ever get my forgiveness is if you prove to me that you're truly sorry."
You knew, in his twisted little head, that he loved you. More than anyone has. Maybe a little too much with the way he looked at you sometimes or certain things that would slip from his mouth every now and then.
If you wanted him to prove himself to you, that meant that you were willing to see him again.
You set boundaries, though a few of them you noticed him grimace at. If he wanted you in his life, willingly, he had to abide by them.
You were not going to be anyone's prisoner ever again. No matter how nicely they treated you
He wasn't going to like not having you easily accessible. This was how healthy and normal relationships worked. If there was any chance of getting you to trust him again, he'd have to go along with it.
At least it would give him the opportunity to see you and perhaps have you warmed up to him once more.
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lucianalight · 4 months
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Odin's Family Dynamic - Part 7
It's been days and I still can't stop thinking about What If 2x07. So I decided to write my thoughts down. While I did mention Hela in previous parts of this series, there wasn't enough material to do a complete analysis of her role in the family. But with this episode we have a more complete picture. Reading Parts 1, 2 and 5 might be necessary for a better understanding of this analysis.
Part 1- Odin: The Narcissistic Parent
Part 2- Thor and Loki: Golden Child and Scapegoat
Part 3- Frigga: The Enabling Parent
Part 4 - Can Loki Trust Thor?
Part 5 - Did Odin Love Loki?
Part 6 - Is Loki a Narcissist?
Hela: Golden Child Turned Invisible
In a relation to this series, I was asked what would happen to the golden child without a scapegoat. The answer is the dynamics of a dysfunctional family with a narcissistic parent are not set in stone. The roles the narcissist assign to members of their family can change based on the needs and desires of the narcissist parent. And sometimes a person can have multiple roles or change roles. Usually the only child of a narcissistic parent is given the role of the golden child by default, but they're also prone to having multiple roles.
We see Hela as a happy kid who loves her pet wolf and can't even stand seeing him chained. It is interesting that her first reaction is protesting his imprisonment not that Odin stopped her playing with Fenrir. The scene shows that she cares about others and doesn't want to harm anyone. But Odin seeks to control and tame anything that might be a threat to him, and as he chains Fenrir, he chains Hela too. He grooms her to be a fighter, to never pass on a chance to end a life, to be his executioner and consider that a great honor. He couldn't do that if Hela remained as sweet and caring as she was when she was a kid. And Hela reveling in the love and attention stayed his golden child.
Until Odin decided to stop at the nine realms. Now it's never mentioned why Odin suddenly made that decision. It definitely wasn't because of the goodness of his heart. He still sought powers he deemed others unworthy of with the excuse of "protecting peace". But what caused him to stop his conquests? The answer might be his "new girlfriend who is a dreadful woman" according to Hela and one of the people Hela has a quarrel with.
But why Hela doesn't like Frigga? They have two different personalities for start. While Frigga is a fierce warrior, she doesn't enjoy fighting or war. Definitely not the way Odin, Hela and Thor do(one of many similarities Loki has with Frigga). Also from TR we know Hela was aware of having a sibling but never met them. So her banishment happened when Frigga was pregnant. Stopping the wars and protecting peace might have been Frigga's condition for marrying Odin. It is also possible that Odin pitted Hela and Frigga against each other through triangulation, a manipulation method to provide him narcissistic supply.
"Basically, the game involves two or more people who get pitted against each other and usually they don’t even realize what’s happening. They’re just aware of the conflict between each other and there’s always this conflict. Maybe they can’t figure out what’s going on or where the conflict is coming from. Or maybe it’s very clearly this parent or this other person. Essentially the narcissist does this because they want you to turn on each other while having the loyalty of you both."[1]
The prospect of having another child could be the reason why Odin banished Hela without a second thought. But that's not all. Narcissists don't see their children as people with their own thoughts, feelings and needs but rather as an extension of themselves. The golden child is the positive extension of narcissist but only until they act exactly as their parent wants.
"Narcissists will turn on the golden child when the golden child stops being a source of validation, admiration, and reassurance. Even though narcissists give the golden child many opportunities, privileges, and resources that the other family members don’t get, they still view the golden child as expendable."[2]
That's because the "love" the narcissist parent has for their child is conditional. And if the golden child do anything that contradicts the narcissist's sense of self, they become the negative extension of narcissist and therefore will be treated as a scapegoat. Which happened to Hela. She was banished and imprisoned and forgotten for more than a millennium. Odin turned her literally and figuratively invisible to the world, because she was a reminder of his shameful past and his failures. No surprise that she went mad. She was treated like a tool and discarded as soon as her usefulness ran out. She didn't have any place in Odin's new future.
WI Hela on the other hand got the chance to know herself and choose her own path when she realized what she wanted all along was freedom from Odin's control. Which is a theme that repeats both with Thor's arc in TDW and Loki's arc. Because what Odin did to his children for all their lives and every punishment he sentenced them to, was ultimately for controlling them.
Sources:
[1]Scapegoat & Golden Child | How and why narcissists assign these roles (and not just in the family!) 
[2]Does the Narcissist Ever Turn on the Golden Child?
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slashingdisneypasta · 6 months
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SecretLover!Prof. Aaron Callahan x Fem!Reader || Oneshot
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Plot: What the hell kinda luck leads you and Callahan to finally decide to date- and then immediately end up with him subbing one of your classes that day??
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Warnings: Teacher/student relationship and sexual references.
"You want... to take me on a date??" Blinking, you look baffled at him. "... we can't go out." You exclaim, completely incredulous. "That's the secret part of secret affair."
A smirk slides across Callahan's face, looking cocky as usual. Like he knows everything, the handsome bastard. "I was actually thinking I'd cook for you. At home." The smirk broadens. "See,.. I know the rules."
"Well you should, you did help to make them."
"Mmm," He groans, annoyance laced in the tone. "Actually I think that you took control on that- but I digress. What do you say? I've cooked for you before, after all,.. its not like I'll poison you... "
"Uh, I stole leftovers out of your fridge. I don't think that constitutes as you cooking for me- but-- " Shaking your head, you taking a deep breath and think; drumming your fingers against the bench.
The two of you have been getting along better; that Halloween event was so much fun, and not just the bathroom rendezvous, you actually loved talking with him-- but do you really want to let this become... more? What would you even call him after you went on a date? Date is a hefty four letter word, filled with expectations and assumptions and a 'where is this going' conversation that you are completely unequipped for.
Callahan is an ass, though. A cold, manipulative, narcissistic ass. So... maybe... you shouldn't??...
Your eyes flicker up to his face then, though, and your moment of sobriety is over. There's just something in him that you like all of a sudden and the past week since Halloween, you've been all for him. Shrugging nonchalauntly, you give a grin. You cant help it. "Yeah. Cook me dinner- what do you plan on cookin me, then?"
Giving fully-pleased grin, rolling his shoulders. "Let's call it a surprise." He teases, leaning in and dropping a slow kiss to the corner of your mouth, his hand fitting to your waist. "I'll see you tonight- dress uhh... " He gives you a once-over and you gape. Excuse you???- "better."
Excuse y- glancing down at your pyjamas, just a t shirt and shorts, you give a sad pout. These pj's are cute! Hmph. "You know, I like you at the moment but you're still on thin ice." With a matter-o-fact, deadpanned look on your face now, you take a deliberate sip of your coffee/tea at him.
"Uhuh, whatever. Bye." One final waist-squeeze from him and an almost-sincere smile (on one side of his face at least) and he walks on out of the apartment for the day.
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What the HELL?
"Alright class, as you can hopefully tell I am not an English teacher," Professor Callahan stands at the front of your class after making an entrance of himself coming in (He couldn't quote a law & order but apparently he knows Hamlet- the Claudius bits) and you're closest to him in the front row so you're the only one who hears the next part even though he doesn't look at you. "and to be honest I look down upon and each and every one of you poor hippie losers."
What the hell is he doing in this class?? This is YOUR class!! He's a law teacher- Before you can think it through, your arm shoots up into the air. He sees you and nods to your hand. "Where's Mr Bradford??"
"Sick." He responds, and does not elaborate- he quickly looks back to the class in general. "Now, I want you to do the modules I write on the board and if you have a question... I don't care. Email your ailing teacher. Go."
Narrowing your eyes, you watch him turn and write the appropriate modules onto the board; using your eyes and mind power to insist he turn around... but he doesn't, not once. The jerk.
Finally when Callahan turns back to the front, gives the room once sweep with his eyes and then sits down at the desk to do his own work without even looking at you for a second you sigh and open your laptop to start the modules... awkwardly... and immediately see an instant message pop up in the corner of the screen. From Aaron- the name you put his contacts under when you realised other people might catch a glance of your messages or your calls and you didn't want them getting suspicious about a last name (Or 'the professor', which was another option that had passed your mind).
Aaron: Stop staring.
Huffing, you roll your eyes and immediately start typing out an answer.
You: Oh so you noticed me?? Interesting.
You: Couldn't tell.
Aaron: What do you expect? Am I supposed to walk into class and kiss you- then introduce myself as the professor for the day and expect everyone to respect me?
You: No one respects you. They hate and fear you.
When you glance up to see his reaction to that, you see a smirk slither across his face as he types back to you.
Aaron: So?? That's infinitely preferable.
For goodness sakes. Stifling a grin by pressing your lips together, you shake your head and open your classwork. Whatever, maybe you can just ignore him and get your work done today. Pretend you don't know him. Try not to think about the fact you were bent over your professors bed with him behind you in his teaching suit, well-
Woof... you think, eyes rounding and shaking your head again; trying to shake the memory out of your head. Okay, mind outta the gutter, lets do some work. Come on.
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For the rest of the 3 hour class you shift between actually doing work and sending Aaron random messages to try and get a visible reaction out of him (He does react, but he's subtle. Just soft smirks, a couple of headshakes... the biggest responce you got was an eyeroll). No one else notices because they're all terrified of Callahan, and are actually doing their work.
When 3 o'clock finally fits and its time to leave for the day, everyone else starts filing quickly out while you casually just pack up your things at your leisure and wonder what you're going to wear for your date tonight when you feel a tap on your shoulder. Turning around, you see Lewis.
Lewis, the guy you went on a date with a couple of weeks ago and Callahan - Aaron, - got weird about it. Before Halloween and everything... sorta changed. As Lewis gives you a cute grin, his tucked into his back pockets you look to the professors desk and catch Aaron the manipulative bastard pretending not to notice the cute guy approach you; busying himself putting his things back in his briefcase.
"Hey, Y/N. Sorry, I know we've both been really busy lately so we haven't had a chance to catch up, since... " Here Lewis gives a shifty-eyed glance between you two, reminding you of the almost-risqué moment the two of you had when he kisses you goodbye after the date. A wonky grin wibbles across your mouth, thinking about the worse, down-right-scandalous things you've done with the other man in the room- nearby- listening in... "But, uh, I was wondering! Heh- if you wanted to go on a second date??.. you know- with me? The new Five Nights at Freddy's movie is out and I got tickets." Oh- he remembers you love Five Nights at Freddy's!, damn him. Damn him and that cute lop-sided grin on his face. "Whadaya say?"
... Oh. "Oh."
You should say yes.
Lewis is cute, and he's sweet (He gave you his spare copy of Freddy Vs Jason on your date for goodness sakes! You cant get much better then that), he likes Five Nights at Freddy's!... and what you said to Callahan (To Aaron) two weeks ago still stands. You want to be married one day, you want something with someone that can last-
... But right now all you can think is that you have plenty of time to find that. You're young and you have years, and right now all you really want to do is be with Aaron.
A week ago the answer would have been yes but Halloween night changed everything.
You hear the sound of a briefcase clipping shut and take in a sudden, deep breath. "... actually Lewis, I already saw it- sorry!! You can take someone else, can't you??"
Lewis's smile falters, but not in a pitiful puppy-dog way- in a 'well damn, that's a shame' kind of way. You like that about him, after all you only went on one date together and he barely touched you. "Ehh, no worries. Maybe we'll hook up some other time."
"Maybe!" Giving a genuine smile, you nod; noticing Callahan at his desk waiting impatiently for the two of you, the last remaining students in the room, to move it and get out. His briefcase is stood up straight on the desk and his fingers are drumming against the leather. He can definitely hear what's being said, too, since he's barely 10 feet away.... and looking right at you both- "Uhh... well I'll see you next class, Lewis!"
"Yeah, see ya." With a last arm squeeze, and a kiss to the cheek, Lewis gives you casual smile and leaves the classroom.
... After a moment of embarrassed silence in which you think about where to go from here... you quickly glance at Aaron for a moment and pull your shoulder bag on right over your head. "Well what are you lookin' at?" You ask boldly, then go ahead and try to just leave. Like uh-yeah-no-see-ya-later-bye-
But- "Uh uh uh, not so fast." You were, of course, greatly mistaken to think he was just going to let you leave after seeing that. Sighing, you stop in your tracks and look nervously back at him. "... what was that?"
"I'm sure I dunno what you mean, Professor." You give him a pointed look. "Just chatting with a friend."
"A friend?... " He raises a brow. "Huh."
Welp. That 'huh' doesn't sound great. "... 'Huh'?"
"Mhm. 'Huh'." He agrees, folding one hand into one of his pants pockets and looking... thoughtful. Dangerously thoughtful. Oh lord- "... as your professor I feel I should warn you, Miss L/N,.. boys at that age are- " He pauses, considering his next words. " - fickle. And inexperienced. And... q u i c k." The last word comes out slow and you want to laugh.
You try not to laugh, wandering over to the desk and looking pointedly at him again. "Sir... I don't think its appropriate for you to be talking to me about this, is it? I mean- " Quickly you drop the good student act. "Not unless you're gonna gimmie good grades for listening to your jealous garbage, at least." You shrug, dropping your shoulder bag to the ground with a teasing grin.
Letting out a chuckle, he smirks and runs his hand that's not in his pocket slowly, wryly over leather of his briefcase. "... what else would you do for a pass, sweetheart?.. "
A snicker slips out of your nose, shaking your head. "You're not really my real teacher, Aaron, you have no power over my education."
"Well that's true... Also means its not against the rules- if I do this." After leaning across the table, Aaron presses his lips against yours in a hot, slow open-mouthed kiss that makes you dizzy. And you let him, in your classroom, where you learn about American literature 5 days a week. You even reach over and wrap his red tie around your knuckles, stroking his tongue with your own. When he pulls back, only a couple inches, he can obviously see the fog in your eyes from his kiss and you can definitely see it in his. "Or, this." He goes on, beginning to press kisses along your jaw and down your neck in a way that makes it hard for you to keep yourself together. "Or... "
Oh, fucks sake here we go, you're going to fuck him in the classroom. Pulling back with huff, you slowly let go of his tie; slipping the smooth fabric through your fingers. Your eyes flicker slowly from his lips up to his eyes and back. "... Professor I changed my mind, I'll do anything for that grade."
With a mocking smirk so close to your face, so pleased to have a girl in a classroom, even if its not his, Aaron holds one side of your face and rubs your jaw fondly with his thumb. "Is that so?.. What a good student you are. Hmm... go lock the door."
"Yes sir." You grin, heading off to do just what you're told.
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15 minutes later you leave the classroom with slick on your thighs and a warm feeling in your pants, as well a whole new appreciation for Wattpad authors and their vision.
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disgustedorite · 6 months
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I'm putting this in fandom tags for reach, as this directly concerns people in this fandom.
Hemoanarchist, Dante From Inferno, Rita, Reed, Skaianheresy, Gumblin, whatever name he goes by now that I have no way of knowing, hereby referred to as Dante, no matter what label is put on the relationship we had, made me completely dependent on him to approve of all of my writing, art, and personal politics by taking advantage of my greatest fear, by reiterating and reinforcing these two conflicting sentiments simultaneously:
That I was the only postcanon liker that he respected, the only one who wasn't crazy, and the only person he would trust to continue the story of Homestuck^2 (now Homestuck Beyond Canon), that I gave him hope that the story could work and redeem itself
That all of my ideas, all of them, were in some way bigoted in the exact same way as the postcanon or worse and had to be corrected lest my work and even my personal politics be judged for all forms of racism, transphobia, misogyny, fetishism, terfiness, and what have you
My reaction of becoming dependent on Dante for approval and sensitivity reading because of this is not my fault because this is clear manipulation that would send anyone into a spiral, let alone someone who already has a deep set fear of hurting people by accident.
Further, he then took advantage of this dependency by threatening to cut me off any time I stepped out of line. This is controlling behavior and did nothing but reinforce the dependency. I can only speculate on what his end goal was, though I'm starting to suspect it was an attempt to write his own ideal Homestuck^2 continuation through me.
The fact that I was also shitty doesn't justify any of this. Even the shittiest people you know still don't deserve narcissistic abuse. Which, according to my research, is precisely what it was.
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The last time I tried to come forward about this about 8 months ago, one of Dante's friends, ZeroBlogsHere/4lph4kidz, entered my inbox to convince me to take the accusations down with the claim that I was solely responsible for everything I felt and that the relationship wasn't real solely on the basis that Dante didn't consider us friends. Zero also acknowledged that what they were saying sounded like gaslighting, but tried to guilt me into not reporting it as such.
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I have also been told, at least as of August, that another one of Dante's friends, Terrawr/Beebo/Beebosheebo, also known as Mark, has been spreading cropped screenshots of me smack in the middle of a PTSD attack--more specifically, locked in the midst of a flashback to a repressed memory of being sexually assaulted as a child--as proof that I am incapable of respecting boundaries.
The attack in question, which occurred last year, has nothing to do with Dante, and the screenshots were missing the vital context--which Mark admitted to deleting--that it had been triggered by unsolicited exposure to a specific piece of themed porn, which I now know to be a trigger, and that I was trying to seek help in avoiding it. It is true that at the time, lacking any words for what I was experiencing, I described what was happening to me in an inelegant manner based on the literal sensations, but that doesn't excuse using an involuntary flashback in progress triggered by a specific event that he knew about as proof of such an accusation.
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All three people above are, as far as I know, administrators on the Alpha Chads server, which is the official discord server for the blog @/alphasesh on which they are also admins. Don't support that blog or server if you believe me.
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Whether I was also shitty or not, whether or not I contributed to Dante's paranoia issues that he already had, whether you believe what I uphold that my acting out about certain topics was directly caused by Dante triggering my PTSD and not something I was just doing for kicks as alleged, even if every single accusation against me is true, the fact of the matter is that Dante, Zero, and Mark all did inexcusably bad things as described above. I'm willing to forgive Dante's other friends who are just defending him, but I do not want this to be ignored or buried.
And anyone who tries to harass me into silence again, think about what you're doing, you asshole.
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trashlie · 1 year
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Maybe a little sad but Yui reminds me of my mom and what happened to Rand is kinda what's happened to my dad over the years. He's exhausted. Ran out of spoons years ago. (Thankfully my dad's been great to me despite this). But while Rand's convo with Shinae really upset me like, good God man, people who've run out of spoons really think that, and really think distancing themselves is for the best because they're not bad people they're just exhausted to the point of apathy. It's sad but it's hard for me to hate Rand or even Yui or Kousuke because that's just... kinda what my life looks like haha. People can be a twisted, narcissistic manipulator but someone can still love them without excusing the faults. However, the first thing that happens when you recognize who you're living with is just this seething uncontainable bitterness. I'm nervous for what will happen to Kousuke when his world shatters fully at seeing glimpses of who his mom really is. The paranoia doesn't go away, you still feel the scars on your brain sometimes. But it takes having the right people in your life to finally obtain a solid sense of "this is who I am without her, and she can't control me anymore." AND learning how to play the games your mom has without giving into the manipulation and causing scenes or losing yourself. It's tricky but possible. I don't think for the purpose of the story we'll get to see that be possible with Yui (she's objectively much worse than my mom lol but the vibe fits) but I do hope we get to see some peace for Rand and Kousuke someday. They deserve to grow past the exhaustion, paranoia, and apathy.
Oh nonny :( My heart goes out to you and anyone else who has had to endure and survive these situations. One of my really good friends has a narcissistic mom, and it took a long time for her to recognize her for who and what she is and start to see her tactics for what they were - tactics. And her mom grew so much worse once she lost that control over my friend. Even as a bystander, it's so difficult to watch, because you can also see the tactics for what they are, you get to see every time they put themselves first and every time they fight someone they're supposed to love that point of exhaustion. I'm glad you still have a good relationship with your dad despite that, though! That's such a hard thing to go through and I think there are some people who don't realize just how hard it is to tread those waters. :(
As a reader it is SO easy to sit back and go "they're adults they know better than this, they should do better than this" but the saddest thing about this scenario is what happens when this continues for years and yeas and years. Just as Nol wanted to get as far away as possible, can we blame Rand for distancing himself? Unfortunately not.
I, too, struggle to hate Rand and I've had some conversations with people lately who think that offering Rand empathy means you condone with his behavior. And while I don't think I condone "neglecting your children", it's far more than that. ILY really exemplifies the whole "be kind to others because you never know what they're going through" mentality.
For similar (but different) ways, reading ILY has left me grappling with a lot of my unresolved feelings with my family and parenthood in general. What scares me SO much about being a parent is exactly this: you now have a job that means putting yourself first, sacrificing your wants and needs to meet theirs. And a lot of people aren't good at it. A lot of people never learn how to do it. Or they can only do their best with what they have, they can only do their best but sometimes their best isn't enough. Sometimes they have less spoons, negative spoons.
It's not so cut and dry that we can say "You are a father you have to do better." I think there's a pointed difference between not wanting to be a father, not wanting anything to do with your child and not having the energy TO be a good father. I like exploring this because it's such a human thing, there's not necessarily a good vs bad here. Rand's choices have hurt a lot of people but it feels like he's not choosing to be an asshole dad - it just happens that it's turning out this way.
I think that's the big take away. Life is not a series of good people and bad people; it's just the culmination of everyone trying to get by. And yeah, some people actively make shitty choices. Some parents actively make the choice to not be there, to prioritize themselves. They actively choose to let someone else shoulder that burden for them because they don't want to be a part of this, they aren't attached. But I don't think that's the case for Rand and we can't view it through that lens. And tbh that goes for life in general. I don't think it means we MUST forgive the people who have hurt us, but at least it provides a little more understanding?
Regarding what happens after you come to terms with who that manipulative parent really is, yes, I've had that fear, too. I think Kousuke will crash and burn HARD before he gets to grow again. It's not just that he has to figure out what his mother has done and that he is a result of all of it, but that loss of security because of how well she's isolated him, it's that sense of identity that he won't know anymore. It's SCARY - I can't blame him for staying in his safe bubble. I can't blame him that every time he gets close to the truth he runs away because it isn't easy. In Kousuke's case, it means cutting him off from the only person he believes cares about him, the only person who has brought him comfort. That's why it's so easy for me to empathize with Kousuke now and take interest in seeing what he's going to do and how it will happen. He doesn't face an easy choice at all, does he :(
Mentioning that you have to learn how to play their games also made me think - I think one of the keys to putting a stop to Yui (or, at the very least, freeing themselves from her tyranny) is that they need that sense of community. And I think having Kousuke deflect from her and join them would be a great benefit from them all because he does, to some degree, know how to play her game. He's been doing it to Nol as long as he's known him.
Idk I think.... there's going to be a LOT of work for Kousuke and healing will not be easy. It will probably be ugly and might involve steps backwards even as he moves forward but I feel really hopeful about him. You and others who have lived in those situations go to show that it's possible to get out of that AND to heal and recover.
Thank you for sharing your story with us. I hope it can lend insight to others so that they might be able to view this part of the story through a different lens. No one has to forgive or even love these characters, but I hope it helps people understand better the grey nuances of enduring abuse.
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Hi: I have a bit of a theory (and I could be wrong about this) that Alastor, during his time alive as serial killer, would go after those he felt deserved punishment. Sort of like he would hunt down those that would prey on the weak. This is not to excuse him for things he's done, he's still a predator, but judging from the ending of his prequel comic and the way he dismissed Charlie's dream of redeeming sinners, makes me think that he has some sort of code (morally askew as it is). Thoughts?
Everyone get out of the way. My time has come. I'm going to heavily reference the fan wiki in this post to support this theory but I have a couple of my own ideas to coincide with this. I'll be putting all this under the cut for obvious trigger warnings concerning the whole "evicting a person from their body against their will" thing. This is the only warning you're getting.
Let's begin by agreeing that his reasoning for repeated murder isn't justifiable in any regard and he is no anti-hero vigilante, he was still a serial killer who took immense pleasure in the bloody gory death of his victims, if he didn't enjoy it he wouldn't have done it repeatedly through his life unless necessary to shoot down food or other people who threatened him as a last resort. This guy was a professional manipulator and knew how to twist words in specific ways to get the attention of his victims and keep said attention long enough to get them isolated and do his whole stabby thing. With that said, Alastor does have a very odd moral code, as stated by Viv more than once. She referred to him previously as "a reverse serial killer" where instead of targeting children, women or weaker people he actively selected men and people who could put up a fight. I'm not sure if this was because he genuinely has a soft spot for kids and women or if he just holds vendettas against specific people and has a bucket list of just names. Point being, we know he didn't go the easy route. Though he's seen in the show actively teasing Vaggie and displaying manipulative tactics on Charlie so perhaps he feels more pity than sympathy for women. (Or at least, people he refers to as women.) He displays many characteristics recognized in serial killers, his persona is intentional. However Alastor has been described as being very egotistical and holding other men to a very high standard. This may relate to trauma during his life. There has been no mention of his father this far and I'm inclined to believe his father may not have been around while he was alive. Not to suggest that's an excuse but it's a possibility. However he can be rather loose with these standards for himself, he has himself on a pedestal where he has more lenience than other men would be allowed. So he has a lot of narcissistic traits, possibly a defense mechanism, is sadistic and cruel when he wants to be but oddly takes that out on other men and has been shown to get along quite well with women in Hell. I'd like to believe if he hadn't gone the route of murder, he may have been accepted in heaven despite his grudge against people who targeted those who didn't stand a chance, however he chose murder and was damned for that repeated decision. In Hell he still continues murderous tendencies as a pass-time and in the prequel I didn't see any characters with female characteristics feeling intimidated or scared of Alastor. Perhaps, hear me out here - perhaps he believes redemption has a chance of working however, he doesn't want the sinners of Hell to have an easy route to heaven in spite of their choices while living. Let's remember that the worst of people go to Hell and he would have no issue seeking them out. In the pilot he stated, "the chance given was the life they lived before, the punishment is this! There is no undoing what is done." Inferring that every sinner is being punished for something terrible they did in life and while that's true, I think Alastor believes Charlie has her head up in the clouds. She was sheltered growing up likely and doesn't recognize just how terrible the sinners of Hell can be and believes they're deserving of a chance to heaven despite their actions while living, whereas Alastor believes the sinners of Hell are there for a reason and he's there to seek a new form of revenge on sinners who hurt weaker people. So yes, his moral code is a little odd but he's a very odd person himself. He seems to hold his mother to a high standard so perhaps that invoked his sympathy (or pity) for women and children? Viv has stated he wouldn't kill a child. TLDR: Alastor specifically targeted people he believed to have been deserving of a painful death for their actions, and Alastor may secretly believe redemption is possible but doesn't think many, if any citizens of Hell are deserving of an easy pass to heaven despite having hurt people while alive and after arriving in Hell.
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Since Nekomata and Ubume would, who else won't be above emotionally controlling their darling?
The bulk to worry for are whom aren't used to being on the receiving end of rejection, hearing "no". If a few strings need to be pulled, then fine. Anything to get you back onto your heel.
For the sake of time, I'll name the most manipulative ones from the top from my head and explain a bit. If you want a more direct and less descriptive list of the Onmyoji characters, go ahead and ask.
Orochi, Kuro Seimei, Taishakuten and Seimei are the top cases, being vastly manipulative with barely any second thoughts. Preferring you under their influence, they create constant excuses to wrap you around their finger. Orochi and Taishakuten tied first for worst.
Taishakuten would be replaced by Yato no Kami if he wasn't pitifully hypocritical, Yato is "argumentatively" less cruel (I would argue at least). Incapable of direct lies, he bothers not to feign unawareness of his brutality. There is no downplay in front of mere moral minds. Everything is for his amusement, but he is still honest.
'Miserable' and 'dependent' on them is what Orochi and Taishakuten do best. Terrifying and beckoning. Gods best strive on belief and worship, their kingdoms built bathed in pools of ruby. Death coating their powerful, porcelain hands. Lands ruled with fear, "peace" through tyranny. Content in using painful methods to get their way, gods are experts in ensuring those below them stay loyal. If a splash-a drop of crimson stings your eyes that's your fault.
Taishakuten does it for easier control, better access and assurance you stay in line. Narcissistic beasts hold no consideration for people and co-existence, but he is no less self-centered like one in obtaining what he wishes. Wants every command done and complete, no hesitation. Does what he must for his goals and future, to ensure you never oppose him. He respects a stubborn nature, but the line is drawn when it you consciously act in undesirable ways. His mind manipulation isn't amateur, singlehandedly snatching Asura out of his bloody rampages repeatedly in the past. Cards aplenty is up Taishakuten's sleeve, ready to play people like fiddles, turn them on their heels. Using his godly abilities isn't above him, he will hammer "obey" into your head, even during the reemergence of his memories and Asura's return. Though he developed guilty reluctance after. It's plain and simple, it's out on paper for you. Obedience reaps rewards, defiance results in torture. Just because he loves you doesn't mean it will be mild, nothing is held back, excluding death. The stars in your lips extinguished, the flames of your spirit drift apart ember by ember, he will rip limbs off.
If anything, his love for you inspires to make your lesson more apparent, difficult, thorough in teaching your place beneath his feet. Forcing you to pause, bow to him as your god. As Taishakuten takes everything from you, like he did him, he will witness it wearing a vacant, disinterested stare. Like a parent disciplining their child, as if judging you. In a way, he is.
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Orochi and Kuro Seimei do it with the same reasoning, and for the fun of it; there is satisfaction, twisting and toying with your mind like a puppet's, emotions are a sadist's playground. Climbing up along the monkey bars of bitter feelings, swinging on lines of sorrow and pain. Fixated beings of despair, hellbent on your tears. Dragging you, driving you to weep. Reactions are coal to the fires of ambition, and when there is no coal, they'll mine more one way or another. Diverting attention is what gods crave, what they live off of. Spread of their names and power, tightens the grip on their targets, intelligent life. Reminds them just how deep you are in their grasp; and you just keep sinking, so deep the Void sees you, amiss seas, you drown in limitless black.
Orochi busts a gut laughing, long curious fangs pear from in-between his thin purple gems. Kuro Seimei, amused beyond words, is drunk off the power and pleasure. Corruption is truly glorious to behold, so beautiful to witness. Finger-sized stripes drawn on your cheeks, bloody polka dots on your abused neck, bitten fresh. Eyes falling in dark eternity, quivering jaw grinding in anger. If you're the resistant type, oh please resist, breaking you down will be fun. It's a challenge, and they love it when fights get messy. The messier the better. Orochi leaves you in a puddle of your own sweat and tears, he wants you to crawl your way back to him, beg your God for forgiveness you never deserve. Any radiance you have is snuffed in his wake; every wound and weakness taken advantage of. He aims to make you a gray husk of your former self, an empty shell he can play with till day dies. Kuro Seimei is of little difference in how he acts, he makes you admit how worthless your life is, turns your smart-mouth words against you, malice in his sneers. His dreadful mind games may last longer than Orochi's, since he doesn't get as bored easily. No longer will you live for yourself, the only person you're living for is him and him alone. The darkness swallows your light, chaotic blight cuts the home you knew apart, eternal miasma left over.
Only him-the new world borne from the former's ashes. They wonder what expressions you will make when Orochi erases Kyoto and the rest of Heian-kyo off the map. You fall surely, snapping in so many tiny pieces that will unveil the truth within, they want you kept beautiful till the end is neigh, and very well may.
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Seimei hates manipulation, oh-so hates it. But he knows the value of stretched truths, the value of a jester's lie.
He doesn't want to do it, but will anyway. Itching his worry and paranoia, Seimei convinces himself it is best for your safety. For his own benefit, Seimei does everything to make it end how he prefers, his selfishness raised tenfold. The brave Onmyoji of the capital is no fool however, he is sound mind of what he is doing but doesn't bother to stop. His friends warn you themselves; Seimei is more then he seems. This man is prideful, super smart, and proud of it. He knows better than to waltz right in. Seimei portrays a cool, charming and docile persona after all. A gentleman. You trust him so far; you stand beside him, sleep on his lonely side of the bed and comfort his insecurities. Can't ruin that and let you run with your tail in-between your legs, can he? It's going so well, don't you think? Are you so heartless that you would betray him so easily? He provides for you, delicious food, clean water and a soft bed to cushion your sweet dreams. Your physical protection is guaranteed, thanks to his spiritual knowledge and loyal shikigami. Being an Onmyoji isn't a dream job, as a solider of the realms, protecting valuable humans and innocent life is his calling. He has everything a normal man could only wish for, and in turn, so do you. Is it really worth leaving him?
Studies before the test. It always works to experiment on what he can get away with before officially pushing the buttons, doubling checking his work. Worming his way into your head, you may find yourself telling him things sooner than you originally planned too, voicing thoughts you swore no other would hear. To trap you in ways you won't immediately notice, things in your routine flip slightly, changes so small you can barely see him trying to control them. It starts small, his controlling behavior masked as kindnesses; eating is where he insists first and eventually when, sleep is by his person at all intervals, 'his estate is smaller than it looks' he says. Disguising himself as a very generous host, he blinds you-giving you the most comfort possible (And kind Kagura is of no help in giving you reasons to leave either) while pealing back your defenses. He forces himself to fulfill the responsibilities of your personal care, without a single complaint he gladly takes charge of your needs, basically acts like a happy housewife.
Nothing effects people like the mind does, hence emotional manipulation being a useful tool. The worst part is you won't notice it at first, it's so carefully crafted and well planned. Your free reign over your schedule is delicately snipped minute by minute. Suddenly you have more reasons to stay home, because Seimei offers to cook all the recipes from your favorite street vendors, because he and Kagura offer to help wash your clothes. All you need is right here, where he can see you, let him be so kind and bring it to you. It builds up, one step at a time. Slowly, behind the scenes, his tracks are covered as finely as possible, hidden from you and any other unfortunate wanderer. Seimei may be your lover, but he is also your protector. Controls your love, time and soon, your undivided attention.
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To Intervene or Not To Intervene
Trigger warning: attempted familial murder, potential intergenerational abuse
I'm so terrified of generational abuse being perpetuated through the family, but with my brother now engaged, that fear just became so much more real.
For some context, I have an abusive biological father. He doesn't have any diagnosis as far as I am aware and I'm currently not a licensed professional that can make any diagnoses, but I suspect he has a narcissistic and/or antisocial personality.
I have two older brothers and of the three, only my middle brother, who I will call T, has a good relationship with our father.
As kids, our mom got all three of us into martial arts among a solid handful of other activities. Being siblings, we often got paired up for wrestling practice. During said practice one day, I accidentally kicked T in the stomach, and granted, I can see why anyone wouldn't be too happy with that happening to them, but what he did next was unwarranted.
Being older and stronger, he pinned me down. If I was on my back, he would press his forearm into my throat, putting his full weight on it. If I managed to get on my stomach, he would wrap his arm around my throat and squeezed. It wasn't close to being like it could have been an accident. He was clearly intentionally leaning on my throat, even when I tried to push his arm off, and just kept on doing it, wrestling practice be damned.
I tried to push him off me. I tried to wriggle out from under him. No matter how much or how hard I struggled to get out from under him, I could not get him off of me. No matter what I did, he would not stop, his intent very clear on his face.
That's what scared me the most. I still remember the feeling of my throat closing every time he pressed his forearm into it. I thought I was going to die right there in the dojo, surrounded by people and yet no one noticing what was going on, wrestling the perfect excuse and disguise for what he was doing to me.
I was helpless.
Since then, he has never apologized for it, shown any amount of remorse, or even acknowledged it. Him having done this, as well as having the best relationship with out biological father, I wonder how much he's like our father.
With his recent engagement, I am now worried for his girlfriend. If my brother is abusive like our father, I don't want someone else to get pulled into the same abusive trap and potentially bring children into the same situation. They've been together for just over 9 years now, so it's not like they haven't been committed, but marriage makes relationships so much more entangled and harder to get out of since it is legally binding.
I've been contemplating telling his girlfriend about what T has done to me in the past and warning her about what our family is truly like beyond what she may be aware of. I wish I had someone take me out of the abusive environment and now I want to be that person for her if my brother really is abusive like our father.
There's drawbacks though.
Dr. Ramani Durvasula says there is no way to warn people about narcissistic people (her video on it here). The only way for them to learn is for them to experience the relationships for themselves.
I'm also scared of the fallout that might occur if I try to come forward. I already mentioned it once to my step dad and he didn't believe what my brother did was actually him trying to kill me, that he also used to think his sister tried to kill him by leaving toys on the floor for him to trip on (even though it was very apparent my brother was trying to kill me), that my brother is grown up now. I may be ostracized from my family if they don't believe me and think I'm just trying to ruin my brother's relationship.
Granted, he could have changed since then, but he may also not have changed. Narcissists have this way of manipulating people and appearing nice but be worse than terrible behind closed doors. I have no idea what my brother does when no one else is looking.
I just want to prevent anyone from experiencing what I lived for years, but Dr. Ramani also brought up another point: at the end of the day, it is not my job to save people from these relationships. If there is no way for me to get people out of narcissistic relationships, my time and energy is spent elsewhere. I agree with this, but I also can't help but to think that I would be terrible if I knew something bad was going to happen and I didn't do anything to stop it.
At this point, I'm still trying to grapple with this dilemma in my head. I want to help people, but I also just want peace after all I've been through. I feel stuck between a rock and a hard place.
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College is a bitch, but I can't say that I'm any less of one. I tried to draft a post in the week leading up to my departure from home about missing the familiar splotches of green mixed in with gray geometry of cost effective city planning. How I would long for the same parallax as streets and alleys rolled by, and the ever present hum of the interstate two hundred yards from my house in the small hours of the morning.
What I've found myself missing the most is Ruby. We had been together for just under two years, and just under two weeks out from the severance of our official romantic relationship I realize that the geographical cocoon that spawned me will remain ever-present and my relationship to her will not.
I spent a regretful amount of time in our intersected lives feeling lukewarm to the idea of loving her back. I hate how long it took me to really mean it. I hate how narcissistic I was. I hate how long I felt so little for her. I of course, had issues—still do—and though I don't want them to be an excuse, I saw aging out of childhood in capitalist America as like being on vacation with a gun to your head, and it made me crazy. I am an odd flavor of legitimately caring (albeit in reserve) and skilled enough at manipulation to convince people that I care more than I do, and though I think that anyone in my situation would be just as megalomaniacal with their small bit of influence, she deserved so so much better. And if there is one thing in life I'm sorry for, it's not being better to someone who clearly loved me so much.
Ruby is everything you would want someone who loves you to be. She is funny, and though she lives a lot of her life in flux between her humor being muted and summoning the social wherewithal to vocalize it, she has always been absurdly funny; even on the nearly silent days. She is brave—and not in that she does any more dangerous things than idiots such as myself, but in that she lives her life farther outside of her comfort zone for longer periods of time in the name of fun and growth and beauty than any other person I've ever met. She lives in a better more well-kept house than me, and she knows how to be happy. She distinguishes and decides, and admittedly needs encouragement to act but she is wonderfully skilled at recognizing her feelings towards everything. She is a feminist; she exhibits feminine fashion and indulges in the culture and vernacular while exuding strength and fortitude. She is not toxic, she uses her support system and doesn't put up with my bullshit when I throw it her way. Ruby is gorgeous. Some people say she is not conventionally gorgeous. I don't. She has a beauty separate from her virtue, she is Venus.
I will admit that I had a mixed experience before her. I have had toxic exes and I have been the toxic ex. I did not want to repeat shitty patterns of unhealthy young love. Save for the major deception of the true depth of my feelings—which I thought would develop more quickly—I think that my experience and resulting paranoia regarding codependency led me to handle the administration of our relationship on the day to day fairly well. I encouraged her not to isolate herself from her friends—as tends to happen when you are newly enamored with someone—and made time for our own support networks and hobbies and established friendly relationships with each others' parents, and addressed issues and generally did everything I could to make our relationship a healthy one.
There is however a but.
I, in my jaded 'realist' wisdom, made the observation that relationships kind of just... don't last. Fucking brilliant epiphany I know, but I'll elaborate. Half of marriages end in divorce, and most long distance relationships result in emotional dissatisfaction or someone cheating (or both), and the not insignificant sample size of young relationships I have witnessed have mostly eroded—save for a few statistical anomalies—most commonly because one of the parties involved wanted to experience relationships with other people. I had seen teens get bored of the routine of their partners, or housewives wishing they had lived their twenties before marrying some dude named Cody and resorting to lifelong monogamy. I felt that I, alongside most others, would eventually get bored enough in one relationship to either cheat or mentally check-out.
I looked at the prospect of my graduating a year ahead of Ruby as an opportunity for us to get some space. Not because we needed it, but because the space would be there regardless and relationships ware thin. I didn't want that for us. Shitty making an executive decision like that I know, but neither of us were looking forward to long distance. Neither of us quite enjoy our predicament now.
It was a sad sequence of events, but she rode into the sunset with tears in her eye from my abrupt anchorage in this college town, and her obligation to go back home. I wouldn't say that it was the wrong choice, but I regret not loving her longer. We still talk on the phone about maybe getting back together if our lives synch up again, but those are far off days and that's no good to us now. I wake up in a sober daze, traipse into my theory classes and wave to nameless new characters. I'm sure she sits in front of her vanity mirror and does her makeup after dressing in clothes laid out the night before. We live our lives separately now. There is no resolution.
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Alright gotta get some opinions off my chest. Potential bad takes below the cut.
I've been seeing a lot of "ot6" tomoons on twitter and it's very frustrating. Because in someways I get where they are coming from? Like it is entirely possible for someone to make up or exaggerate shit because they are mad at their idol ex boyfriend. And like 95% of OP's story reads like a woman who was expecting a married man to leave his wife for her. She doesn't seem as upset by some of the more serious accusations she throws out as she does his lying, cheating and refusing to leave the other girl. Which like... are all shitty behaviors, but are they like career ending cancelable? Western artists do crap like that all the time and we call it entertainment. I don't care so much if he was dating or that he was a shitty boyfriend, I'm never going to date him. I've seen people call it manipulation and gaslighting or whatever, but like... I dunno, what happened to the whole "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"? thing. Is every shitty behavior at the level of like narcissistic manipulation? Is it not possible she just wanted the secret fun of dating an idol and bought his lies longer for that reason? I'm not trying to excuse his behavior and I'm not trying to victim blame... which is entirely what it sounds like I'm doing. I know. But the internet is getting me genuinely confused as to where the line is for gaslighting and manipulation vs just... being kinda shitty. I feel like those terms are thrown around so easily. But maybe it's the case of like... truly starting to call actions for what they are? Like we don't tolerate "locker room" talk or "boys will be boys" type things anymore? I dunno, I'm just too old lol
I'm not actually on the 0t6 tomoons side though because the other 5% of OP's accusations are really serious. Getting her drunk to have sex with her? Threatening or talking about wanting to kill other girlfriends? Breaking into her home? Those are all really serious. Those are beyond shitty boyfriend or general asshattery and go into legit dangerous and scary. They should not be taken lightly. There could be other victims and spamming all this "protectravn" stuff is going to keep them from wanting to report it. The same with like all the picking apart of OP's story. Which I know I did to some extent but here on tumblr without tags vs tagging and trending stuff on twitter feels different. So can't we leave that to the company and police? Slander is a really serious offense in Korea. If she doesn't have proof she can be prosecuted and you bet the company will to protect their income. I feel like the risk of protecting an abuser and silencing victims, not just with this case but with all SA in general, is more important than protecting an idol from a hit to his career.
Also, I know maybe it's not as important, but true or not, but seeing the other members so heartbroken is just gut wrenching. It's giving me 2019 mx feels. That was worse because wonho literally did nothing worth giving a shit about and ended up leaving the group. But still, like the whole situation is sad and shitty for the other members no matter what really happened.
It's just.... *sigh*
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Ethical question because I’m genuinely conflicted. Obviously people with NPD and ASPD are deserving of love just as much as anybody.
But in general, when someone is an abuser of a partner or child, whether they have NPD or ASPD or not, should they no longer be deserving of love?
I'm not gonna lie, I've been sitting here for a while trying to find words to answer this.
if someone hurts somebody else, no matter what disorder they have, there needs to be consequences and follow-ups for those actions, whether thats legal repurcussions or mental health treatment or just apologizing and working to be better.
the thing is like. to me, someones diagnosis is only important to the background. it provides a reason for why they may have done what they did, but its not an excuse.
I'll use an example that happened a lot when I was in school. I come home, and I'm incredibly overstimulated and overwhelmed. my mom comes in my room to talk to me, like she always does, and I can't handle it. I snap at her, saying a lot of very ugly things. if she tries to touch me or come too close, I'll slap at her hands or elbow her away from me.
I hurt her because I was overstimulated and about to have a meltdown. I was struggling to control my behavior. that is a reason. but even though I had a reason for acting the way I did, that doesn't make it okay. I still should not have hurt her. so as soon as I calm down, I apologize to her. in my next therapy appointment, we work on ways that I can cope before I get to that point.
here's where the hypothetical victim comes in, and again I will use my mom as an example. she is not obligated to forgive me just because I apologized or just because I had a reason. she is allowed and even justified to be upset with the way I behaved.
but here's the difference between my autism, which was used in this example, and people with NPD and ASPD: when the perpetrator has NPD or ASPD, it is taken one step farther.
when I lash out because I am overstimulated (a symptom of my autism), I am not told that since my disorder caused me to lash out, that disorder must make me abusive. my mother does not complain that she is suffering from "autistic abuse." I face a lot of stigma due to my autism, but the first word that pops into people's heads when I tell them I'm autistic isn't "abuser."
but people will throw around the term "narcissistic abuse" (instead of calling it emotional abuse, which is what is really is) even when their abuser isn't diagnosed with NPD. they hear "NPD" or "ASPD" and immediately assume that the person is an abusive, manipulative, evil asshole. actual evil, abusive assholes are armchair diagnosed with NPD or ASPD by laymen just because they're evil, abusive assholes.
acknowledging someone's mental disorder when they've hurt someone or otherwise fucked up is not bad. it can help determine the severity of it, as well as how to give consequences for the action. but people put so much weight on the diagnosis of NPD and ASPD when someone has done something wrong that it just becomes "abuser disorder."
to answer your question in a shorter manner: no, you don't have to forgive an abuser or reconcile with them just because their disorder provides a reason for the behavior. just be careful that you're not putting too much weight on their diagnosis instead of on the actions themselves.
TL;DR: a person's diagnosis is a reason for their behavior, but not an excuse. people with NPD or ASPD already face a lot of unfair stigma about being perceived as abusive. you don't have to forgive an abuser, but don't talk like their diagnosis was what made them abusive, or like all people with that diagnosis are as bad as they are.
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Loki can scream and cry his motivation out loud yet so many people still don't get it
You know it's really interesting(poetic? ironic? downright weird) that the way Loki is seen in-universe is also mirrored by so many people out-universe, specially when you consider that this perception of Loki parallels myth Loki who is known as the scapegoat of the gods.
And in-universe Loki is the scapegoat, not only in his family but in his society.
"The scapegoat doesn't get picked randomly or by accident. Usually they are either sensitive, unhappy, vulnerable, ill and/or the outspoken child or whistleblower. In other words, the scapegoat is the child who refuses to look content or stay silent in the unbearable atmosphere created in the family home."
- Glynis Sherwood
And Loki was that child. He confronted Odin on his lies, racism and his favoritism and got no answer. He confronted Frigga and got excuses and he screamed that he never wanted a throne, all he ever wanted was to be Thor's equal, and he wasn't heard. He practically begged for Odin's love and acceptance on the verge of falling to his death and he was rejected.
And the tragedy is that he was never understood, and his pain was never validated. He told he had imagined slights. His uncharacteristic behavior during the invasion was never questioned by his family. They just assumed the worst of him and that he wanted a throne. Odin told him that should have been grateful that he was saved as baby because his birthright was to die and then sentenced him to solitary confinement for life, one of the worst forms of torture. And Frigga tried to excuse Odin's actions, tried to put the blame solely on Loki and manipulate him into accepting Odin.
"Controllers, abusers, and manipulative people don't question themselves. They don't ask themselves if the problem is them. They always say the problems is someone else."
- Darlene Ouimet
And then MCU decided to retcon the character, to portray Loki instead of someone who had rightful grievances but committed wrong actions, as a narcissistic slimy betrayer. And since he was villain coded and the other characters were hero coded, people easily accepted that retcon.
"For scapegoating to occur, a community must agree on a target who can be blamed for anything that goes wrong. Sometimes a community just needs someone to BE wrong all the time, so they can know they are right. It really doesn’t matter if the person is actually guilty or wrong, as long as everyone agrees on it. That agreement allows the community to act against the scapegoat and feel justified. They can hate, abuse, ridicule, neglect, expel, wound or kill the scapegoat and actually experience feelings of joy and well-being afterward."
- Raven Foundation
And people prefer to see Loki that way, to blame him for everything, to scapegoat him because then it's easy to look at all the terrible things that happen to Loki in the story, all the mocking, humiliation, beatings and abuse that he goes through and laugh at him because in their opinion he is the bad guy and deserve all that.
What's ironic though is that despite the narrative efforts to frame Loki as a selfish narcissistic power hungry jerk, he still comes off as more relatable, empathetic and even heroic than the hero coded characters when you analyze the events objectively and don't let the narrative tells you how to think. Sth that yet again fits the definition of a vilified scapegoat.
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bored-mumma · 3 years
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TITLE: The bad guy
CHAPTER NO/ONE SHOT: One shot
WORD COUNT: 1673
ORIGINAL IMAGINE: Requested
NOTES/WARNINGS: Swearing. Verbal abuse (tried not doing too much). Manipulation. Toxic relationship. Domestic abuse. Boyfriend is called Chris but isn’t based on any actor. Leave that to your imagination. 
scorpionchild81  -  Hi - wondering if you would write a Tom Hiddleston x friend reader, how Toms reaction/response to her abusive boyfriend would be - maybe not in a physical way, but more verbally abusive (rude, sniffy remarks/comments and other disrespecting behavior) yes, I have been a victim to this and was stupid enough accepting it for a very long time... 
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Tom sat on the edge of his bed, slipping off his shoes as he pressed his phone between his ear and shoulder, waiting for your answer. 
“Hello.” Tom smiled a little as he heard your voice finally come through. 
“Hi,” He replied, “Fancy a takeaway tonight?” Tom heard you shuffling around, a little sigh coming from you. 
“No thank you.” Was all you said in a much quieter voice than usual. Tom's face fell slightly, instantly knowing somethings wrong. 
“You ok?” He asked
“Always am.” You said, a small amount of sarcasm coming through your tone. “I’ll see you later.” Tom opened his mouth to reply, but you had already hung up the phone. 
For the last few weeks, you had seemed completely off with him. Barely taking his calls, never replying to his messages and cancelling the plans you two had already made. Tom knew his best friend though. He knew you wouldn’t tell him what was wrong even if he was on his hands and knees begging you. You were too stubborn for that. So instead, Tom slipped back on his shoes and stood to pull on his jacket. If you weren’t going to tell him what’s wrong, the least he could do was try and make you feel a little better. Besides, he missed you. 
Tom knocked on your door with one hand, the other holding a bag with pizza, chocolate and some beer in it. He waited patiently for you to answer but when you didn’t he pulled out his keys - you both have a spare set for the others apartment in case of emergencies. He knocked again before opening the door in case you didn’t hear the first time. 
“You know, when someone doesn’t answer, it tends to mean go away.” He heard your voice coming from somewhere in the dark room. Reaching over, he turned on the lamp. You were lying on the sofa, phone in hand, eyes a little red from staring at the screen and wearing some tatty old pyjamas. Tom didn’t say a word. Instead, he walked over, placing the bag on the coffee table and pulled out a beer. Handing it to you, he sat next to you and let out a small sigh. 
“Are you going to tell me what’s wrong or are we just going to pretend you haven’t been acting very unlike yourself for the past month or so,” Tom said gently, looking over at you. You were yet to make eye contact with him. Instead of replying, you took a sip of your beer. “I can’t promise I can make it better but I can promise I’ll try too.” You looked over at him at last, seeing the concern in his eyes. You contemplated for a moment before speaking. 
“You really shouldn’t be here.” You stood, taking the bag of food and hanging it back to Tom. “You should go.” Tom didn’t move, only looked up at you with a frown. “Chris will go ballistic if he finds out your here.” You said with a little more desperation. 
“What do you mean go ballistic?” Tom tilted his head, finally getting something out of you. 
“I mean he’ll flip Tom!” You held out your hand for Tom to take so you can get him to stand from the sofa and leave, but he wouldn’t take it. 
“Talk to me, Y/N,” Tom said softly. You looked around the room, almost as if trying to find anything else to talk about. You bit your tongue slightly, trying to rack your brain with what to say. 
“I mean,” You started slowly. “He doesn’t like it when I have men over my house late at night without his permission-”
“You need permission to have dinner with your best friend?”
“When that friend is a man, yes!” Tom shook his head in slight disbelief. “Look, I’m tired of being blamed for stuff constantly by him. It’s just easier if i-”
“Blamed for what?” Tom stood now, feeling his blood start to boil. But before you could reply, you both heard a key in the door turning. Your heart sank, realisation hitting you at how close you and Tom are standing. You quickly jumped back and Tom noticed. Walking in, Chris looked between the two of you, eyes landing on the alcohol sat on the table. 
“Having a party are we?” He said, voice dripping with sarcasm. “Wish I got an invite.”
“I only had a sip-”
“I didn’t ask.” Chris interrupted you. Tom looked between the two of you, noticing how your aura had changed drastically now. It’s now one filled with worry and like it’s permanently on edge. “Get out.” Chris pointed to Tom, not even trying to hide the look of displeasure on his head. “I thought I made myself clear?” Chris said, turning his attention back to you. “I told you how I feel about this, why would you go against that?” He slowly started to walk towards the two of you. “I told you I don’t like it. I told you seeing you with other men makes me feel like shit, so why would you do it?” You opened your mouth to talk but no words came out. “Does it make you feel good about yourself? Huh? Whoring about? Does it make you feel pretty? Attractive? Well, news flash baby you’re-”
“That’s enough!” Tom snapped at Chris, rage started to edge up into his body as he listened. You had mentioned a few months ago how you had started to see someone called Chris, but he never knew it was this guy. He certainly never knew this was the kind of men you were getting stuck with. He thought it was weird when you didn’t want you boyfriend and best friend to meet, but now he understood.  “I think we should go.” Tom turned to you but you were rooted to the spot/ 
“Yeah, go with your lover.” Chris let out a dry laugh, making shivers go up to your spine. “How insecure does a woman have to be to fuck a new guy every night?” Chris’ voice was getting louder now. 
“That’s not true.” You said, voice so small it was barely above a whisper. 
“What was that, darling?” Chris said in a mocking tone. “Speak up dear, neither of your boyfriends can hear you.” You opened your mouth to speak again but Tom got there first. 
“Jesus Christ, you’re an asshole,” Tom said, more to himself than to Chris. “This is how you treat a lady?” 
“No, this is how I treat Y/N. There is no lady in this house.” Tom chewed on his cheek so he wouldn’t start yelling at this absolute prick stood in front of him. Instead, he took off his jacket and handed it to you. 
“Put it on, we’re leaving.” He said. You hesitated, but seeing the look on Toms face made you realise he wasn’t going to go home without you. Slipping the jacket on your shoulders, Chris laughed dryly again. “Excuse us,” Tom said, almost mocking Chris with his politeness. 
“You’re not leaving me,” Chris boomed. You flinched slightly at his words. Chris had never laid a hand on you and you highly doubt he ever would, but that doesn't mean he couldn’t beat you emotionally. You had tried to reach out before, to try and leave him. But he had threatened to drive his car into a lake with himself trapped inside. You were too deep into this abusive relationship to see how that was a controlling lie to get you to stay. However, in fear of Chris’ safety, you stayed. Now and again you would want to leave, be tempted to reach out to friends and family but Chris would turn again. He would be the kindest of men for a week or so. Would adore you, worship the ground you walk on, buy you beautiful gifts. Of course, once those few weeks were over, back came the abuse. - the name-calling. The picking on your appearance. The constant accusations of cheating. Chris was a master manipulator. He knew how to make you stay with him. But Tom wasn’t falling for any of it. ”You remember what I said right? I’ll do it.” Chris yelled, dangling his car keys in front of you. “I’ll fucking do it Y/N.”
“Walk.” Tom took your wrist gently, making you walk in front of him but so Tom was still stood between you and Chris. “Don’t say anything just walk.”
“You think you can find someone better than me? Guess what, you can’t. You’re a whore-”
“If you come within two miles of my home, I’m calling the police,” Tom said almost too calmly, nearly pushing you out the door and slamming it behind him. He kept his hand on your wrist as he walked you towards his car. No words were exchanged. None were needed. 
You slid into the passenger seat, head resting against the window. You felt like you wanted to cry. You felt the heavy feeling in your chest and how your body ached, fighting for so long to just stay strong. You had convinced yourself that Chris will get better. That one day, he’ll be that good boyfriend again. But you were so sick of pretending. 
“You deserve better than that,” Tom said softly. You didn’t reply, just stared out the window. The thing with narcissists like Chris, they make themselves seem like the victim. And you were feeling like the bad guy.
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Authors note: Obviously you’re not the bad guy but i felt like that since that;s the way narcissists tend to make their victims feel that it would be an appropriate way to end it. 
ALSO! If you’re experiencing any type of abuse, please please reach out. Abuse isn’t just physical.
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dragonbugsuperior · 4 years
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Something that I've been meaning to say about Miraculous's "Rich Girls".............
Before I even go into this, All you Lila, Chloe, and Kagami stans out there I suggest to skip this post, leave disgusting comments and I'll block and report you because I'm saying it now, that I will be saying some things about Lila, Chloe, and Kagami that aren't really pretty. If you like their characters "Yay!" good for you,
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Nobody cares. grow up
So........something has been on my mind lately and I would like to get it off my chest because it's just been stuck in my head and I think it's good if I do make some clear points that clearly people are missing in regards to the show's "rich girls". So Marinette.....has been going through alot this past season and people are saying stupid things like "Oh wE NEeD a NEw LAdyBUg!"
Or "oH MArINeTtE iS teRRiBlE At dOiNg heR jOB!"
Let's dive right into this
I'll start with Chloe first. Chloe bullied Marinette. She has for 7 whole fucking years. Marinette has done nothing to Chloe literally. She hasn't bullied her, talked about her, criticized her, she has done nothing to that girl. But oh! Chloe is some rich snobbish brat that thinks everyone below her should be treated less of a human than she is. Where was her mom when Chlow started to go to school with Marinette? Also Chloe's mom not playing a big part of her life doesn't excuse her terrible behavior and awful treatment she has given marinette and students at her school. Just because her mom is a total snob and shallow person doesn't mean Chloe has to be exactly like her. It's okay for Chloe to express sadness and frustration but what's not okay if for Chloe to lash out all her negativity on Marinette as if Marinette has done something to her. Her parents have really failed her and she has failed herself. She's so full of herself that I'm starting to believe she's delusional. Clinging onto Adrien 24/7 at school like their some type of couple is already mouth-gagging. Like girl, he is not some toy that is all yours and that you can just cling yourself onto. I'm glad Marinette calls her out on her bullshit and handles Chloe's ass and she's not afraid to do so.
And that tacky ass makeup really defeats the purpose because it's makes her look worser than her personality. Tired of these blonde stuck up popular rich girls that think they can just overrule people.
Treating everybody around her like her peasants is clichè mean girl shit. I'm willing to go as far as to say she's a fucking narcissist. Having excessive interest and admiration for herself and treating everybody around her like shit as if she's 10 times more important than they are when in reality she's nothing but a spoiled brat that's jealous because she knows Marinette is better than her.
2nd to last....Lila
Literally 'lie' is in her name. She lies her mouth off and thinks she's fooling every fucking body. Marinette knows damn well she's lying and tells her up to her face in Chameleon. I'm sorry but her lies are ridiculous and the class is so undeniably stupid for believing her bullshit. Yea she's another "spoiled rich girl" her mom is present in her life but we know nothing about her dad. Don't know what happened to him and I don't care to know what happened to him. I know one thing though. Just like in Chloe's case, her dad being absent doesn't make it "okay" for her to be a two-faced person who can pathologically lie to people for personal gain. That's disgusting and weak of a person. She literally frames Marinette and corners her in the bathroom to a wall and pushed herself down the steps to look like she's actually injured. Her fans can try to shed all the light they want on her character but that's never gonna erase all the terrible shit she's done. And once again! Marinette has done nothing to Lila and somehow Marinette is Lila's main target. She lied about her friendship with Ladybug just to impress a boy. Her negativity she's trying to pass onto Marinette isn't working because Marinette is strong and optimistic. I can't believe she had fans, cough looks like a knock-off version of Dora cough. She's so stupid she really thinks Adrien wants to be with someone like her. A liar and manipulative bitch. lol
Kagami.......
"But Jen she's only been a character since season-
Yea I already know how long she's been in the show but that doesn't mean that I'm going to get her the benefit of the doubt. First time she met Marinette she treated her terribly as if Marinette did anything to her. Then again, people like to claim she's from a strict household so that gives her an excuse when it really doesn't. Secondly Kagami in general seems phony, Marinette is trying to be her friend and give up on Adrien just for her!!! and so she can grow as a person!!!!! Kagami chose Adrien over Marinette while Marinette gave up Adrien just so Kagami can have him. Seems like the only reason Kagami really wants to be friends with Marinette is because of Adrien. But let's not get into that.... In Animeastro she acted like she had a problem Marinette was talking to Adrien. I just don't get her at all. One minute she wants to be Marinette's friend (which I believe is completely fake) and then the next she's glaring daggers at her as if she did anything to her.
I don't even want to fucking hear "Oh but Jenny, Marinette didn't confes- SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. Marinette has tried time after time to confess she's always getting interrupted. Kagami thinks of Adrien like some prize to win all for herself after only knowing him for not too long. Give me a break then she's the one who got akumatized over a fucking picture instead of asking Adrien "hey, what's this?" She got salty and got akumatized. In Frozer, Adrien told her that he had feelings for someone else, she jumped to conclusions and thought it was fucking Marinette and suggested him to "switch targets" he told her he wouldn't and she still pushes him to literally kissing him and then getting mad because he rejected it. Girl! Did he not fucking say that he has feelings for another girl and he won't be switching targets. She's really that desperate that she's telling Adrien to get over that other girl, and she's so fucking desperate she tried to kiss him then got mad when he didn't kiss her back. Let's not forget she literally cut out the fencing class picture and left Adrien and herself out. Then she gave us a little "insight" on how she views Adrien in Oni-Chan. "Image of Perfection" she likes Adrien because he's perfect? That's funny. Because for 1, he's not nobody is and for 2 that's a stupid reason to like somebody. Let's not also forget when she literally lied in Miracle Queen about the villain attacking people in love. She knows Adrien likes somebody else so why is she trying so hard to push into being with her? Desperate much? "We're so alike" and Kagami really believes their soulmates? She should just shut the fuck up. She sounds stupid as fuck. How are you "soulmates" with someone you just met not too long ago. Bless her delusional soul. After he rejected her kiss and only knowing him for 2 seasons. Liiiiike......are you that desperate for a boy. I can't wait to see her reaction to when Adrien dates Marinette. Lmao
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It's so funny how all these girls think Adrien's theirs when in reality Marinette is his true soulmate and is gonna end up with him in the end. Adrienette is literally endgame. There's no need for people like Chloe, Lila, and Kagami to get on the way of that. It's also funny how people like to claim Marinette as the possessive one when all these rich spoiled brats have gotten akumatized over him, cling onto him like he's some coat rack, and go out their way to make Marinette feel terrible. And marinette has given Adrien up. The only real clear reason I can see the 3 of them act bitchy towards marinette without a reason would be because they're jealous and don't have the best lives at home and wish to be like marinette.
If I'm not mistaken who's the one that got bullied for 7 years straight and tries her very best to be strong? Who's the one that literally got sexually harassed by Felix? Who's the one who has anxiety? Who's the one who has pressure and responsibilities hunched all over their shoulders? Who's the one that has go around every fucking day to save their city? Oh okay. Everybody always wants to talk about how tough they are without actually going through some real shit. Because I don't recall Lila, Chloe or Kagami going through any of these things while treating Marinette like shit. Kagami is the one that lied to Adrien, Kagami is the one that treated Marinette like crap, Kagami is the one that pushed Adrien after he said he had feelings for someone else /this b*tch didn't even wait/, Kagami is the one that is acting like Lila and Chloe. Let Marinette act like how Kagami did, I'm pretty sure she would've got bashed.
Once they go through all that bullshit then we can chit chat until then, they don't know what struggle is. Spoiled ass brats who clearly don't deserve Adrien because they're immature. They think Adrien's "theirs" they pushed themselves on him as if they can't live without him and they do sneaky shit in order to be with him. Lila and Kagami have clearly showed they would lie to get with him and Chloe does too. Marinette has the courage to let Adrien go, I'm pretty sure if the shoe was on the other foot Kagami would never let Adrien go.
And before people go around saying how it's their parents fault they act do toxically and immature (bc ppl like to give them excuses for their "mommy and daddy" issues) it's really not. Yes, it's partially their parents because they raised them but they also have a big role for their actions. No body is responsible for making Chloe, Lila, or Kagami a better person. No body. Stop putting the blame all on their parents because it's not just the parents I'm pretty sure Tomoe didn't teach Kagami to "lie" in order to get with a boy. Kagami chose to lie to Adrien in Miracle Queen with her own free will. Nobody said "lie to Adrien" Kagami lied that's her fault Nobody told Chloe to bully and belittle Marinette, Audrey is very shallow and brat-like but I don't recall her ever saying "Chloe bully Marinette" Nobody told Lila to constantly lie and manipulate people hell, her mom doesn't even know she's doing it! None of their parents are responsible for certain shit they do so stop pretending like their innocent kids that have horrible parents. I don't have time to analyze if Kagami is like Chloe and Lila or not because I know she is like them she acts just like them. Treats marinette like crap but acts different when Adrien's around. Simple. I tried to give her character a chance in Oni-Chan but after hearing how she views Adrien and how she acted in Miracle Queen I hated her even more than I did before.
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Truth be told, Chloe, Lila, nor Kagami are nothing without Adrien. If we're really gonna go there. Their just some pointless characters that want to get in the way of things and can't stay in their places. Marinette made this show, she's the center of the plot, without her their is no Chloe, without her there is no Lila, without her there is no Kagami.
Call me absent-minded but I see alot of jealous hoes and I'm not with that shit at all. Sorry not sorry
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