#team jyr

[hyperfixation-hideout]

Oscar isn't even a side character? XD Side characters would be Illia, Sun, Velvet, Winter and so on Oscar isn't one of the top main characters but he is still a member of the main cast lol

Right?? Oscar's not as much of a main character as RWBY but he's a strong deuteragonist with tons of plot relevance. Hell, I'd honestly say that narratively speaking he's more of a "main character" story-wise than JNPR. His role as Ozpin's reincarnation automatically put him high in the ranks of important characters, but he certainly wasn't acting as a main character early on. Important, yes, but not central or a major role, and only by proxy of Oz. He steadily became more involved in the storylines the main characters were in and began some arcs/conflicts of his own, but I can absolutely see why someone would see him as a side character even up through Volume 6.

But in Atlas? Sure, he was absent for a good chunk of the middle of v7, but he was a major player in it from the moment he confronted Ruby about lying to the moment he crash-landed in Mantle. He had more screentime in the v7 finale than any other character, was the inciting factor in bringing Ruby's inner conflict to the surface, was key advisor to Ironwood's moral quandaries (even being the one to convince him to open up to the council while he was mid-breakdown), was the reason Ruby changed her mind and decided to tell Ironwood about Salem, was the one to tell Ironwood, was the one to disobey the group's instructions and go extend another chance to Ironwood, had a whole speech about trust and fear (multiple, actually), got shot, unlocked magic, and took Ozpin's return in stride. He had a much larger effect on the overall plot and themes of v7 than JNR, or heck, even Weiss (they did play roles, of course! Just not as impactful cumulatively. Blake and Yang are debatable, but telling Robyn edges out arresting Jacques in terms of big-picture consequence, imo). Oscar was at the heart of the volume's core dilemma, along with Ruby, Ironwood, and to some extent Penny.

And Volume 8? Man, oh man, volume 8. Fun game: watch the first 10 chapters of v8 with the perspective that Oscar is the main character of the show. I know he's not, but just pretend as a thought experiment. It works perfectly. Team JOYR had more direct plot interaction for most of the volume than RWBN (Penny being an exception, of course), so when that yt channel posted "movie" versions showing each group's journey, a lot of people noted that it worked better to watch the RWBN one first and then JOYR, since the latter has higher stakes and feels more climactic and important to the story. There were comments like "wow, if you think about JORY as the main characters this volume makes a lot more sense." A large portion of that video was Oscar/Ozpin content. He got kinda shafted in the last couple chapters, but up until then, from a literary standpoint, Oscar was effectively serving as the primary protagonist of the volume, with Penny as the central character and Ruby as leader.

He was the first protagonist shown on screen for the volume, was retrieved and questioned with a setup for conflict with Oz, got captured by the show's Big Bad (prompting JYR's story to center around his rescue), was interrogated and tortured by Salem, was then tortured by Hazel for information, refused Ozpin's requests to take over and escape, came up with the idea to sabotage Salem from within, worked together with Oz to chip away at Hazel's devotion, had an introspective scene reflecting on the person he used to be and who he is now as well as fearing who he'll become, took over and took the risk of telling Hazel the password, which led to him trusting them and helping them escape along with Emerald (who had overheard Oscar revealing the password), BLASTED SALEM WITH MAGIC TWICE, blew up the whale that was destroying the kingdom (saving countless lives and allowing an evacuation to even be possible), killed Hazel as a sacrifice to save JOYRE, advocated for the group to give Emerald another chance even if they choose not to forgive her (she & others wanted her to leave; Oscar was the catalyst for her joining forces), vouched for Oz with a heartfelt speech, had the final moment of the reunion scene (framing his & Ruby's reunion as significant and cutting it off with him having to defend Emerald), and was constantly echoing the volume's core themes while mediating conflicts and bridging gaps to facilitate cooperation. He both acted as and was framed as the protagonist for much of the volume.

RWBY as a franchise is very centric on teams RWBY & JNPR. Look at the merch, the spinoffs, the supplemental material. Oscar's not given the "main character" treatment in the franchise, and is often (nearly always) absent from side content entirely. It's not surprising people don't tend to see him as a main character. But in the actual show? He is one. He's not THE main character, but he is A main character, and has more than earned that spot in the last couple volumes. I simply cannot see an argument for him being a "side character" after volume 8.

#well this got lengthy #ah well #oscar pine #rwby meta #rwby character analysis #quinpost #quinanswer

[richardsphere]

Rwby Catchup V8E4 (last one for the day probably)

Back into the prison. Qrow’s going full batman-level brooding. (but then, if I had a cursed soul i would too) Looks like they might be setting both Harriet and Wolfboy (do i know his name? I feel i probably should by now) up for “benevolent treason”. I hope so, they are the least boring members of the Ops. Chasescene, Grapplinghook the leg of the monster that has previously shown the ability to liquidise its own body at will. it definitly wont just shapeshift its leg out of constriction. High Fives! And Jaune instantly regrets it Aura is strangely inconsistent isnt it? There are episodes where Jaune, noted haver of an alledgedly above-average amount goes down in 1 hit, and then theres this scene where Ren leaves no surface un-facesmashed without ever feeling anything. Shield-enade turns into a ramp. (thats cool, did i mention how i like the creativity in their kits yet? I think i spend too much time criticising the often terribly flawed story but its moments like these that remind me why i stick around) And we lost Oscar. I thought Weiss had manners, but seeing as her first instinct on greeting her brother is to point a deadly weapon at his neck i seem to be mistaken. Maybe your brother would like you more if you didnt do that. I think that might’ve genuinely been Whitleys way of asking “how can I help”, and if it is that way. Man is Weiss being a bitch here telling him to “go to his room”. Like you do not live here and havent for years and his life is falling apart around the boy. JYR are stuck in the tundra without phones. (which brings me on a tangent, are their phones connected to the local Transit Tower in atlas? the one controlled by Ironwood? This seems like a gross oversight of our Dear Dictator.) Oh are they trying to play Ren’s single-minded obsession at the cost of politeness as an Ironwood Parrallel? not really working for me but i can respect the attempt. Ren is right that they werent ready, but then no one is ready for the apocalypse. and also Is Ren still on this “blind faith in authorities” thing? I thought we got over that with Ozpin, i get that you acknowledge that Team Goodguy doesnt know what its doing but newsflash No one in this universe has ever known what they were doing, Even the gods were only fucking around to see what they would find out with their MagiScienceproject.  Oscar wakes up, ozpin assures him everything will be fine. (the most recent in his ever-going string of increasingly unbelievable deceptions.) Salem used Torturebeam its visually stunning, but not verry effective. Cinder stepping closer and closer to her eventual betrayal, “without you I am nothing”. Now that is the second time we have heard her say that. Probably implies she may be about to get an actual backstory. If only the show had planted these seeds earlier i might even be bothered to care. Cinder doenst think Salem knows Team Goodguy is going to go after the satelite. Cinder is an idiot. Salem has admitted that the entire atlas arc is about setting the stage for her final act. Salem probably wants the satelite up in space because it leads to Operation 100 kuroyuri’s at once as established in V7E2. Neo is going to exit the story for a bit and emerald is taking the stage again instead.  “yeah ruby” followed by a tiny moment of jaune looking around, not confused but as if he’s putting dots together. This is the scene where the “years waiting for this” start.

#rwby

[plotsandplansarchive]

The In Crowd (1 of 2)

Your Love by Haerts inspired; Riverdale-ish, College insp; Freaks and Geeks-ish; Popular-ish; turning out to be OTH inspired

Characters:

Chs - Ren

Brt - Dylan

Clr - Ingrid

Vl - Matt

Sm - Christy

Gn - Jordan

Gf - Cassandra

Mka - Olivia

Jyr - Wesley

Chng - Bianca

Aic - Ashley

Tommy ----

Soundtrack:

Your Love - Haerts

New Flame - Chris Brown ft. Usher

Christy is new in school. She meets Jordan and becomes friends w him. He fills her in with what has transpired over the summer. His core group of friends, known for being the cool kids, has gone through a rocky time over the summer. The group's main couple, Ren and Dylan breakup for unknown reasons. This has led to Ren hooking up with different girls over the summer, including a brief fling with Ingrid. After which, Ingrid then starts to interfere with Matt's relationship with Bianca. This leads to Matt breaking up with Bianca, much to the dismay of his friends and starts dating Ingrid, while spending less time with his friends eventually isolating himself from the rest of them. Dylan on the other hand starts to slack off and spends time with other people while not disclosing the reason of their breakup while Ren starts to go steady with head cheerleader, Cassandra. This leaves Jordan and Wesley hanging out by themselves. Meanwhile, Christy is chosen to join the Academic league by head captain, Olivia. Wesley is struggling with his academics while trying to maintain his spot on the basketball varsity. He is asked to get a tutor and is assigned with Olivia to help his grades up. Meanwhile Jordan is struggling with his sexuality and starts to explore bisexuality behind closed doors. --- J: Yeah new girl? You can sit here C: Thanks. Christy btw J: Jordan. I like your shirt C: This? You got yourself some cool kicks. J: This is Wesley. Christy. C: Hey, nice to meet you. W: You too. Hey gotta run, got practice in 5. See ya! J: He's captain of the ____ team. C: Wow, are all of you this sporty? I feel so intimidated right now. I learned how to ride a bike like last year. ----

[short-wooloo]

Right now I'm predicting an enemy mine situation between JYR and the remaining ACE-OPS + Winter, putting things aside (at least Marrow and Winter will) to deal with the immediate problem

But when its "over" or things are calm, Ironwood isn't going to care

He's going to insist that RWBY and co still be arrested

And certain people will need to make a choice

#rwby #rwby spoilers #ace ops #winter schnee #team jyr #jaune arc #yang xiao long #lie ren #marrow amin #elm ederne #elm aderne #vine zeki #harriet bree #james ironwood

[sails4ship]

And then there were three...😰

RWBY v8

#rwby #team jyr #team trq #team strq #three #rules of 3 #yang #jaune #rin #taiyang #raven #qrow #rwby v8 #volume 8

[astraskylark]

We all talk about Neo shape-shifting into Pyrrha. But what if Emerald uses her semblance to show her instead.

#rwby #emerald susturai #pyrrha nikos #neapolitan #emerald is the one who's actually seen pyrrha #so what if to torment or stop team JYR she has them listen or see visions of Pyrrha calling out to them #i want to believe in emerakd redemption #but like #i feel she'll go solo rather than join with our protags

[frishbi]

That scene in v8 where team jyr is in the tundra shack is basically just Yang going "I miss my wife Jaune, I miss her alot" so I could totally see them talking about their gfs and Jaune just going "Cinder turned my gf into dust :(" and Yang responds with that's rough buddy.

AHAHA OH MY GOD YES

#rwbyavatarau

[rockets-and-raccoons]

I keep thinking about Oscar and how he's being held prisoner by Salem and while trying to escape was thought of, not once has it occurred to him that Jaune, Ren, and Yang would come for him.

He's working on trying to hand out redemption arcs. He's using the time he has to try and turn the tide in the war because he does not seem to expect that leaving the Whale is really an option. Whether it's because he doesn't think he would be capable of escaping, or whether he is expecting Salem to kill him.

So I honestly cannot wait to see his face as Jaune, Yang, and Ren show up in the Whale.

'I finally felt like part of the team.' He said to Ozpin. But still, he doesn't seem to realise what being part of the team really means to his teammates. Because they're going to show up, and he's not expecting them to risk themselves like that for him.

And he'll know it's for him, because no one knows Ozpin is back. Not to mention Jaune and Yang are the most vocal in their distrust of Ozpin. So Oscar is going to know - it's not Ozpin they care about. It's not Ozpin they came for. It's their teammate, Oscar.

I keep thinking about how much this is going to mean to the young kid who doesn't know if the team really care about him, or whether they just keep him around because of who his soul is joined to.

Not to mention he was knocked out during JYR's entire attempt to get him back from the Hound. So he really does not have any idea as to what these three are up to, nor does he suspect what they're willing to do for him.

A rescue attempt wont have even crossed Ozpin's mind either.

#rwby #oscar pine #professor ozpin #yang xiao long #jaune arc #lie ren #team joyr

[appleseverywhere]

I would very much like to point out how Winter and Oscar are on the Manticore together, and how she’s literally backing him up in every move he makes after that, like catching him with her glyphs and doing a time dilation before Ironwood could hit him.

Oscar Pine.

The very same person she nearly sacrificed in the process of bombing the whale.

The very same person she sacrificed Ironwood’s trust for by letting team JYR go.

Oscar has officially been added to Winter’s list of younger siblings.

#rwby spoilers #rwby #rwby8 #rwby 8 #rwby 8 spoilers #winter schnee #oscar pine #NEW SIBLING #PROTECC LITTLE SIBLINGS

[itsclydebitches]

Yes, Salem did not want Mantle but what Salem wanted didn't matter. She had brought an army of Grimm. They did not need Salem's direct orders to flood after the negativity from Mantle. If Ironwood had been allowed to fly away with Atlas has Salem just fucked off with Monstra and the Tempests that just leaves an army of straggler Grimm to annihilate a mostly defenseless Mantle, killing the vast majority of the Kingdom's citizens.

Except we saw what changed when Ironwood stayed: absolutely nothing. You're saying that if Ironwood had left and Salem had chased him, that would have left the straggler grimm to attack the people in Mantle, with the implication that staying would avoid that. It didn't. Who is protecting Mantle? Not Ironwood's army because, as established, Salem wants Atlas and they're busy defending Atlas from her. Not the Protector of Mantle because she's off on Amity sending a worldwide broadcast. Not Team RWBN because they chose to go launch Amity and then stay in the mansion (on Atlas). Not Team JYR because they're busy rescuing Oscar (on Atlas). The only people who chose to defend Mantle from the army of straggler grimm were the Happy Huntresses. That's it. There was an entire scene where May said, "You need to come help Mantle because we've got no one defending that city from the straggler grimm" and Ruby said, "No, I won't do that because that means choosing a side and there are no sides here." Ironwood refraining from leaving canonically did not help Mantle in any way. It arguably made things worse: it gave Ruby's team access to Atlas tech for Amity (sending out a potentially disastrous message), kept the fight above Mantle which put the citizens in more danger, kept at least some people from evacuating before the fight began, kept the Relics in danger (which were lost), kept the maiden in danger (two of whom died), and kept the question in the air of which city the heroes would choose to defend, with them choosing neither. We saw, on screen, what happens if Ironwood was forced to stay and nothing in that outcome led to Mantle being more protected.

In order to argue that Ironwood leaving Mantle behind would have resulted in its destruction, Ironwood (or Ironwood’s presence) needs to have done something to protect Mantle when he ultimately didn’t leave. The only reason Mantle was relatively safe was because Salem was focused 100% on Atlas, which she would have been if Atlas was over Mantle, or off in the atmosphere. I think what Salem wants absolutely matters when she’s the one coordinating this attack.

#rwde #rwby #mymetas

[theseerasures]

a yearning nation’s blueeyed pride

honestly there is just like. no point as of Witch (if not earlier) in thinking about Marrow and Winter as following along the same defection path, and downright facile to compare the two in terms of who is “closer” to defecting and therefore “less problematic” (even setting aside that making value judgments along those lines in fiction is...never that straightforward), when the narrative has emphasized REPEATEDLY how they are on entirely separate tracks in terms of character and role in the Atlas military.

seriously, it’s like saying “this orange is bad because you can’t eat the peel like you can eat an apple skin”

so like, yes, Marrow is the one who has verbally expressed his misgivings, and has clearly articulated scruples (as opposed to just the dial-up noise) and will blurt them out any second now as soon as he gets a word in edgewise. but also: Marrow HASN’T gotten a word in edgewise (except with Winter, fancy that), and has done approximately fuck all to actually subvert the system that he is growing to hate. both his theory and lack of praxis are tied into Marrow’s relatively low, overlooked position in the Atlas system, and feed into the fact that for Marrow the project of Atlas is not personal.

Marrow joined the military on ideological grounds. he clearly does want personal connection, but that has been denied him at every turn, largely by his teammates, largely by his partner, all of whom use him to enforce their own struggles with the clash between political duty and personal grief. he has been alienated by the system he upholds, which started even before we meet him. this makes it much harder for him to rebel in deed, because he doesn’t have a lot of power to begin with and he knows the system will not protect him if he does; at the same time, that relative powerlessness and isolation keeps his investment in Atlas abstract, uncomplicated, and much easier to dispel. Marrow is still with Atlas because he has a job to do, because it’s his duty, because he is still clinging to the Atlas military’s illusory altruism. he wants Penny to come with them so she can save Atlas. his protestations at seeing Team FNKI, that they are “just kids,” comes from the belief that it is categorically wrong to send children into battle. what is keeping Marrow from defecting is belief, and once the belief is shattered--like, say, when his boss’ new ingenious plan is to Nuke the Poors--there is nothing keeping him around.

and once his path is set he will not waver, because Atlas, by design, has no hold on him materially or personally (outside of his own life, which he was already happy to dedicate to a cause). Marrow then, is the limit case of Atlas being hoist with its own petard: an exemplar for how it gives its people nothing while demanding everything, but also an exemplar for how quickly the entire system folds in on itself when the veil is lifted. when Marrow defects (and it IS when) it will represent Atlas as a whole defecting from itself, even if we don’t see it visually--from the civilians, to the enlisted soldiers, to perhaps even members of Marrow’s own team.

NONE of the things i just mentioned really apply to Winter, because there is nothing about Atlas that is not personal for Winter.

i have no doubt that Winter is in some ways invested in same abstract principles that swayed Marrow, but that is constantly overridden by the fact that Winter has family at all sides of this, even before everything fell to shit, and the narrative will not stop reminding her.

“what about your sister?” “would you say the same thing if it was your sister inside?” her father was gunning for a seat on the Council. the man who took her in is essentially Head of State. Penny has made herself Public Enemy Number One, and Weiss is actively abetting her. even Whitley has now thrown himself into the fray, unbeknownst to her. and another person might be better at compartmentalizing all this the way Winter clearly wants to, and stick to the party line, but Winter cannot, because the more i watch her the more i’m convinced that the current crisis in Atlas is just a microcosm of the real issue, which is to say: everything is personal in Atlas for Winter, because everything is personal for Winter.

at a moment-to-moment level, and especially when backed into a corner, Winter defaults not to ideology but her tightly coiled lattice of personal relationships. and this makes perfect sense, because Winter grew up in a household where she had to perpetually crisis respond, and then she never stopped. Marrow does what he does because he believes in the dream, in making the world a better place, and therefore it is more difficult in some respects for him to defect, because it involves taking a long hard look at and then rejecting the structures he bought into and made himself complicit in. once lines are crossed and he DOES do that, though, he’s home free. for Winter, there are no lines to cross, because all Winter wants in the end is to throw her arms around everyone she cares about and drag them to safety. to keep them there, closely held, where she can see them and make sure that they stay safe.

but what’s tricky about Winter--what’s fascinating to me, what Jacques tried to beat out of her, what James alternately capitalizes on and tries to quash, what she resents about herself--is that in times of crisis (which for Winter is again ALL THE TIME), “everyone she cares about” becomes everyone, so that suddenly she takes a shine to the General’s war machine, so that she’s risking her life to give Penny and Fria a few more seconds of time, so that she’s stepping in front of Elm’s incoming fist, so that she’s letting JYR go rescue Oscar. Marrow has ideals he values, but at her core Winter has nothing but the people, who are real the moment she sees and feels them--real enough to defend, or defend against.

Winter jealously protects her web of people, but that web will also spiral out to infinity if she lets it--so she doesn’t. she has adamantly refused to move out of the mode where she lives present-by-present, only reacting to what is right in front of her, what she has been told, weighing her own life against the people who are closest, and no more. this is unquestionably a trauma response, but it’s also reinforced by 1) her choice to become a career soldier, and 2) the fact that Winter actually HAS quite a bit of power, and she knows that. but she has never trusted herself with any of it, largely because her hypervigilant response to situations has only ever been chastised instead of rehabilitated. Winter knows the weight of her name and her position, but she constantly tries to ignore it, or run away from it, so that she is only ever the heiress, the second-in-command, and never the Queen. she cannot be a leader until she is Good (that is to say, perfect and rational), so she tries to obliterate her power the same time she obliterates that pesky personhood: remaining still for as long as possible, avoiding situations that she knows will prompt action and choice, and when absolutely pushed to think through her power, moving the pieces around with extreme caution, hoping that the world won’t be burnt black by it.

Marrow and Winter are fundamentally at opposing ends of the personal-political bleed, and the story could NOT telegraph it any more clearly than their conversation in Witch, where Marrow makes a personal plea to Winter so that she can make a call far beyond just that, and she refutes him, by reminding him of his obligation to Atlas in the form of impersonal duty.

i’ll conclude by pointing out that there is something very interesting happening with Winter right now, that exceeds her power in-universe. because even as a Schnee, as Ironwood’s protege, what Winter can do is limited (partly because she limits herself), except for how the story has resolutely centered her actions and MADE them significant. in the course of this war Winter has let herself make exactly two choices--both of them noninterventionist, easily justifiable, and not meant to take any ideological stand--and they ended up altering the entire fabric of the war with Salem. all because she loved her sisters more than her duty. all because she was shown a slim chance to save the kingdom and a fourteen-year-old boy, and she thought just for an instant, what’s the harm

(and James Ironwood will never know. that even with his plan, his bomb, all his ships, all his soldiers...he was no match for her. his loyal lieutenant. the only child he will ever have, who has only ever called him “sir.”)

it is not about what Winter COULD have chosen in those moments, if she had the ability to stop Penny and Weiss from leaving, if JYR were even Oscar’s rescuers, in the conventional sense. it is about the fact that she DID make those choices, and the story has made them reverberate, in spite of the fact that she did not mean for them to. Marrow’s story is about being neglected and overlooked by the system, the moment of recognition that it needs you more than you need it, that there are so many more of you, and together you can stop chasing the dream and make your own. Winter’s story cleaves to the heart of not just Atlas, but the RWBY monomyth, which goes something like: stars are like us. the world was created because two brothers could not get along, and sundered because a woman could not cope with her grief. just because you move closer to the elite, to the center, to the top, to the sublime, it does not mean that you move farther from the fallible. we are all, at our deepest layer, people.

but the world does not tremble any less for it.

#winter schnee #marrow amin #rwby #helen writes meta #there is something like. gallingly poetic to the point where it's just shy of kitsch #about the throughline of winter letting penny go and then penny letting emerald go #(and then emerald helping free oscar with JYR and hitching a ride on the other strand winter left trailing behind) #it's not about causation. it's not that simple #it's about the ways that penny is both winter's apotheosis and (dare i say it) mirror #as maidens so often are for each other #so that winter's desperate compromise becomes in penny's hands a transcendent mercy #winter would not have spared emerald. and penny is not there solely because of winter #but they constitute and echo each other even apart in the kingdom of creation #winter might call that being 'human' but penny would call it something else #me yesterday: teehee i think i will make a leetle joke #about how winter has done more for the war effort than ironwood by basically doing fuck all #HOURS AND A ZILLION WORDS LATER #listen. do i regret it? yes. do i wish i'd done something more productive? absolutely. do i wish i could hyperfixate on anything else? ye

[hyperfixation-hideout]

How trans Oscar can still be canon because I said so

I wrote a scene for the trans Oscar theory because I love him. After Oscar is rescued/escapes the whale, if they can’t contact the others to know to take him to Schnee manor, they’d probably take him back to the Happy Huntresses’ base camp to heal him up in one of the medic tents.

Ren helps Oscar out of his jacket and onto a makeshift medical table.

Jaune, to May: Where are the others?

May: Last I knew they were at the manor up in Atlas. They wouldn’t leave, so I came back to help Mantle.

Yang: We have to go there, we have to get to them!  

May: Look, they’re not answering their scrolls, and we need to get him patched up before he can go anywhere. So unless you want to leave him here while we-

Jaune: No.

Yang: No way.

Ren: We’re not letting him out of our sight.

Oscar starts to speak, but he’s too tired to argue.

Jaune begins to heal his open wounds to stop the bleeding.

Yang: Here, let me help you with those.

She reaches to unwrap Oscar’s bandages.

Oscar, sharply pulling away: No! *winces from the movement*

MYJR: …

Oscar: I mean, uh, no – no, thanks. I don’t like taking them off.

Jaune: But, I can’t heal you with them on. You have a broken rib, and these bandages are too tight to set it back in place.

May, seeing Oscar’s expression: I think I can help. You good to walk, kid?

Oscar: Yeah, I can walk. Can someone hand me O- my – cane?

Yang hands it over, and Oscar is visibly comforted by holding it. He gets down from the cot and uses his cane for balance.

May: Come with me. [To the others] You all wait here.

Yang: We said we weren’t letting him out of our sight.

Oscar: No, it’s okay.

Jaune: But-

Oscar: Please.

May: We’ll be right back.

May leads Oscar to a nearby tent, empty aside from several large boxes. The citizens were told to pack, and a lot was dropped in the chaos, so this is the Lost and Found.

May, holding the tent flap open: You know, bandages aren’t really very safe.

Oscar: I know.

May enters the tent after him.

May: Don’t they hurt?

Oscar: Not as much as having them off.

May nods, and starts going through a box labeled “clothes.”

May: How old are you?

Oscar: Fifteen.

May: Ah, no wonder.

May pulls a half-length binder out of the box.

May: Here.

May tosses Oscar the binder and a simple, loose white shirt (not dissimilar to his original)

Oscar, who had been unable to afford a binder when he got his new clothes (which was one of the reasons he went shopping in the first place), holds it almost reverently.

May: You get changed, I’ll stand guard outside so no one comes in.

Oscar, sincerely: Thank you.

[Cut to May and Oscar re-entering the medic tent]

Yang: You’re back!

May: Alright, lie back down.

Oscar does so with Ren’s help.

Jaune: You good?

Oscar: Yeah, here.

Oscar pulls his shirt up just high enough for his broken rib to be exposed.

Jaune starts to heal him as Ren helps realign his ribs.

Oscar looks over at May and smiles softly. She nods at him with a trace of a smile, and heads out to help with evacuations.

#oscar pine #may marigold #team jyr #rwby8 #trans oscar trans oscar trans oscar! #make it canon cowards #JOYR #quinpost

[alexkablob]

We All Have To Get Along vs I Outrank You: Effective Leadership In The Kingdom of Atlas

Alright, so, Robyn and Winter (or Mantle and Atlas, if you will) actually provide us a great example of how—and how not—to be an effective leader.

Let’s start with the good example: a brief spat between Robyn and May in A Night Off.

May antagonizes Marrow to try and get him (and Penny) to leave security to the Happy Huntresses, because she obviously doesn’t trust General Ironwood’s assigned “security” as far as she can throw them. Robyn arrives, asking what’s going on, and May and Joanna both visibly expect Robyn to join in on their side and kick Marrow out.

But then she walks up to Marrow and...doesn’t do that. She tells him it’s fine, he can stay. May’s caught entirely off-guard—she gasps in surprise, because Robyn just sided with a member of the AceOps over her, what the hell?

But then Robyn provides her reasoning: she’s running for a seat on the Council of Atlas that she’s widely expected to win. They have to play nice, because even though they oppose Ironwood they’re going to have to be able to have a working relationship with him if they want to get any of their goals accomplished. May sees Marrow and Penny’s presence as a provocation, or maybe even part of a plot against them—Robyn’s choosing to see it as an olive branch, a sign that Ironwood is acknowledging them in an official capacity, and it can’t have escaped her notice that he chose to send the two members of his team that would be the least objectionable in Mantle; the city’s official protector and the only Faunus AceOp.

She looks at May, expectantly, with a smile on her face. Holds steady eye contact until May breaks off in a huff, rolls her eyes, and stalks away. She very much just pulled rank on May, in front of the enemy no less, but—and this is very important—she didn’t humiliate her. She didn’t make it hurt, she didn’t hit her in the ego. May walks off annoyed, grumbling under her breath, sure. But she also walks away knowing that Robyn is right even if she’s mad about it, because May trusts Robyn implicitly. Why? Robyn just demonstrated why. Because Robyn Hill is an effective leader who trusts her subordinates and so is trusted in return.

I ask once again what we would do without Robyn Hill, the hero Atlas deserves and the one it needs.

For contrast...the much remarked-upon moment between Winter and Harriet in War.

Winter tells Yang, Jaune, and Ren that she’ll let them make their attempt to rescue Oscar, but that they won’t wait for them to be clear before setting off the bomb. Harriet raises some very valid concerns, from her point of view—they’re fugitives, they’re traitors, General Ironwood explicitly ordered Winter not to let them out of her sight just a few minutes before this. And what’s Winter’s response? A cold, contemptuous “I outrank you.”

That’s it. End of discussion. Because this is Atlas, and the only thing they run on is appeals to authority for its own sake, or outright violence—both of which we’ve seen Winter has a history of resorting to with subordinates, be they common soldiers (”You have ten seconds to take those off before I start hurting you.”) or Weiss in V3. Which is a fascinating bit of cognitive dissonance on Winter’s part, because what do you know, General Ironwood outranks her. Yet here she is, directly countermanding an order of his in the field, and expecting her subordinates to follow her for no other reason than because she told them to do so. And they do, for the moment, because they’ve had that instinct instilled into them the same way Winter has...but man, they are not united in it.

Unlike May, Harriet comes away from this spat with even less reason to trust Winter’s leadership—and she already visibly didn’t. (There’s a brief but significant moment in Midnight where Harriet glances over to see how Winter is reacting to JYR’s appearance before she starts talking before Winter can, having seen Winter freeze up.) 

Which, she is, to be brutally honest, correct to not trust Winter’s leadership, because Winter being placed in command of the AceOps is entirely bullshit and reflective of how Atlas views its soldiers as replaceable cogs. Harriet, frankly, should have been promoted to replace Clover, because she was already acting as second-in-command, but Ironwood doesn’t care about making sure the AceOps are an effective unit right now, he cares about making sure they follow his orders no matter how suicidal they are. And Winter is the one who he trusts most, because his idea of trust is all about control, and Winter is the one who he’s spent years molding into someone who will gladly die for him. 

(How ironic, then, that Winter disobeyed an order of his that Harriet would have followed.)

Not to mention that Winter is most likely younger and less experienced than anyone else in the AceOps save for Marrow, that Ironwood has promoted her too far too fast, beyond the level that she has the experience and ability to manage, that the reason she caught his eye in the first place is due more to the social connections stemming from her last name than any skill of her own, that all of that has given Winter the subconscious expectation that she should be given more trust and authority than others—and damn, that subtext is barely even subtext, isn’t it?

#rwby #winter schnee #robyn hill #harriet bree #may marigold #long post

[luimnigh]

Team JYR: If we rescue Oscar before we meet everyone else again, we don't have to admit we lost him.

-fifteen minutes later-

Team JYR: ...we're gonna have to explain why Emerald is with us, aren't we?

#rwby #rwby spoilers #rwby8 spoilers #rwby8

[theangelofangst]

Oscar standing up for and defending Ozpin to Team JYR

Ya’ll when I tell you I acended to the heavens when Oscar defended and stood by Ozpin, I MEAN I SHOT UP INTO THE STRATOSPHERE I WAS SO HAPPY! I’M ALMOST IN TEARS! FINALLY SOMEONE IN THE SHOW DEFENDS MY BOY!

That “Thank you, Oscar” killed me and it’s all I’m gonna be thinking about for the next week.

#IM SOBBING #FINALLY SOMEONE STANDS UP FOR OZPIN #ozpin #rwby #rwby ozpin #professor ozpin #roosterteeth #rwby spoliers #rwby vol 8 spoilers #rwby volume 8 #oscar pine #Ozpin defense squad #headmaster ozpin

[aspiringwarriorlibrarian]

I understand that most of the people who criticize RWB for “sitting around and drinking tea” are not doing so in good faith. As someone who likes team RWBY and wants to see them do things, it was very disappointing to watch them do that while JYR got a cool chase sequence and actual character interactions and conflict. RWB barely interacted between the end of “Strings” and the beginning of “Dark”

Besides the conversation with May where they had character interactions and conflict over what to do? Cause it seems a lot of people are forgetting that that was the main point of that scene.