#vampires vs vampyr

[this-insidious-dawn]

Hello! What are the differences between vampire and vampyr? Why are vampyr discriminated against?

hello!

for your first question, i'll send you here, where i explain in-depth the difference between the two. in essence: vampires are 'tamed' vampyr, who've had their thread to rift magic severed.

as for the latter question, well, they're spawn. creatures borne of rift magic, creatures who have to prey upon humans to maintain their strength. spawns are, at best, pests to the rich and powerful, and, at worst, very real threats to the less fortunate. most spawn are like animals, stalking the wild and closing in for easy meals.

but vampyr keep charge of their mental faculties, to a point. often, newly-turneds will attempt to fight the calling of human blood, or to sustain themselves off of animals, but eventually they will become ravenous-- sent into a bloodthirst wherein they lose control over themselves.

so, the only vampyr your average human will encounter are either 1. ones who hide their vampyrism out of fear, 2. ones who are so ravenous they act like rabid animals, or 3. openly vampyric ones who were willing to feed off of humans in the first place and thus are often considered morally dubious at best. so the public interactions with them often are not stellar.

however, the Church most certainly doesn't help. they propagandize the existence of spawn themselves, and put out bounties for any known vampyr so that the Church can turn them into vampires. how deeply their meddling has affected the way sentient spawn are treated in Ghel, you'll just have to wait and see <3

#...the moment i get my ass in gear #sorry this got rambly </3 #worldbuilding #this insidious dawn if #vampyrism #vampires vs vampyr #ask #NOT proofread please tell me of any typos lmfao

[allfortheslay25]

Vampires Vs Vampyrs

Just like with any sort of monster, I have a difference between Vampires. In simple terms, there are two breeds of vampires in my worldbuilding: Vampires and Vampyrs

It isn’t wrong to call both Vampires since that’s what they are. However there’s a distinction between them that I want aware.

Considering how I have two separate vampire AUs for andreil (all for the fangs which is Twinyards as vampires) (all for the blood which is Neil as a vampire) I will be using them to demonstrate the differences

Vampires

They have no heartbeat and no blood

Pale (I don’t mean fair skinned I mean an unhealthy pastiness) with visible veins

Glowy eyes

Non retractable fangs

Super strength/speed/smell/hearing/eyesight

Super healing

Toxic blood that can turn people into vampires

Vampires can get sick from feeding on each other

When they feed, they gain a heartbeat for a few hours along with a healthy flush to their skin

Turns to dust in the sun

Garlic makes them break out into hives

Cannot be around holy things (burns them/does not kill)

Only capable of feeling sexual urges once they’re fed

Can’t taste food. Only blood can satiate them

Vampyrs

Have heartbeat and blood (the blood inside of them is not theirs and belongs to those they drink from so if the blood was tested it’d be a mix of blood types and DNA)

Not pale, often are very flushed when fell fed (start paling into gray and heartbeat slows once they go without blood for too long)

Eyes change color at will

Retractable fangs

Shapeshifting abilities (into animals like bats or dogs) (can make themselves look younger)

Super strength/speed/smell/hearing/sight

Can only heal fast when consumed blood

Can’t turn people into vampires/they’re born this way (reproduce sexually)

Can feed on other vampires (as in both)

Have abilities like hypnotism, flying, telekinesis, etc (varies) (not everyone has the same ones)

Boil in the sun and can bear it with willpower

Garlic/Holy things doesn’t work on them

Personality of a person affects how their blood tastes to them (picky eaters because of it)

Can taste food flavors but it doesn’t satiate them

Vegan vampires can sleep off blood hunger (just takes longer to recover)

There’s more stuff to cover but this is some important facts for simple distinction

#all for the fangs #all for the blood #aftg #all for the game #art #doodles #fanart #neil josten #andrew minyard #Andriel #vampires #vampires vs Vampyrs #worldbuilding

[furiousdinosaurdestiny]

Hehe he’s the only reason I watch the movies

#michael sheen #aziraphale #underworld #lycanthrope #underworld rise of the lycans #lycans #lucian underworld #vampire #werewolf #vampires vs werewolves #vampyr #kate beckinsale

[guttertalk]

New Gutter Talk Episode, December 2022

Comics Featured:

Mile Morales: Spider-Man #1

Invincible Iron Man #1

Leonide the Vampyr: A Christmas for Crows

Golden Rage #5

DC vs. Vampires: All Out War #6

DC vs. Vampires #12

Batman Spawn

#Comics #Comic Books #YouTube #Gutter Talk #Batman #Spawn #Golden Rage #Image Comics #Darkhorse Comics #DC Comics #Marvel Comics #miles morales #Spider-Man #Iron Man #Leonide the Vampyr #DC vs Vampires

[livefromcastledracula]

Book Carmilla vs Adaptations (SPOILERS)

Here are a few 'interesting' adaptations. I like some of them for their own merits, but mostly dislike them as Carmilla adaptations for the below reasons, with some notable exceptions: Vampyr: The Dream of Allan Gray (1932 film): The first Carmilla inspired movie, although it keeps almost NOTHING from the novella except 'female vampire'. In this case, a creepy old lady rather than a charming young lesbian. This is a really moody, slow, acid trip of a film though, a treat for fans of vintage vampire film. (3/10) Hammer Karnstein Trilogy: The Vampire Lovers is the gayest and most book-accurate. Carmilla still kisses/seduces men before killing them, boo. The second one her identically-named reincarnation is blonde and has sex with / falls in love with a man booooooo. She's not in the third one at all. It's all very 70's and nowhere near queer enough, but at least we got the incomparable Ingrid Pitt in the first movie. 5/10. Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust: 'Carmilla' shows up as a surprise third act villain. She's an elegant and imposing vampire queen with a castle called "Cjethe" and the Vampire King offed her previously for being A Bit Too Extra. She's... Bathory. She's Elizabeth Bathory, right down to the name of her historical castle, the elaborate gowns and the blood-bathing. Bathory in Castlevania Nocturne even looks a lot like this one. Cool scary vampire lady, but Carmilla In Name Only. 4/10 Castlevania (Games): She's fine here, but mostly just kind of a big Dracula groupie like most of the other non-Dracula vampires. Often depicting as a flying skull or mask crying bloody tears, with optional succubus-like figure reclining on top of it. Cool. Rondo of Blood has her appear together with a ninja vampire Laura with bunny ears because why the hell not. 6/10 Castlevania (Netflix show): Baddass, angry Karen. She's amazing in the first season when she's scheming against Dracula, but after that she just sort of sits on her butt sipping wine and griping about men for a whole season until Isaac storms her castle. A cool character but not a great Carmilla, because Carmilla for me is defined by how much she loves women, not how much she hates men. Still amazing voice work by Jaime Murray though and her last stand was insanely baddass. 7/10

Carmilla Web Series / Movie: My favorite adaptation. It's obviously playing waaaay fast and loose with the canon and reframing her as a charming antihero in a zany urban fantasy, but there's deep current of love for the source material, especially in the movie. Natasha Negovanlis has charisma off the charts and the Hollstein romance is adorable. This Carmilla might be a black-leather-wearing snarky millenial goth with a Canadian accent, but as the show goes on it peels back layer after layer of the romantic, poetic, wistful, world-weary immortal hinted at by the novella. This show redeems LeFanu's lovelorn villain in all the best ways. 10/10. 2019 movie / Styria movie: I still haven't seen these, have heard good things about the gothic cinematography on the most recent one but not good things about the rest of it. The trailer looked moody and pretty though, I may watch it at some point.

#carmilla weekly #carmilla #carmilla karnstein #sheridan le fanu #carmilla castlevania #carmilla of styria

[saturnsedan]

VAMPYR x FEMLAND SAGA

I started reading Dracula Daily again and I immediately got infested with vampire brainworms! So, obviously, I had to put VS characters into situations ^^

This is taking place in London during the late Victorian era. I'm a bit of a vampire purist so they'd follow most, if not all, of the traditional rules.

Canute is a lady who's yet to make a name for herself. Her mother is adamant about socializing her to little avail. Canute strikes a deal with Askeladd who's to kill Lady Sweyn in exchange for her blood.

Askeladd is a very old vampire who targets Canute. She strikes a deal with Bjorn who will pretend to hunt her so she can continue to feed with peace of mind.

Bjorn is a huntress specializing in big game. She became acquainted with Askeladd some time ago in France. Their relationship is rocky but Bjorn is willing to scam Askeladd's victims for money.

Thorfinn is Askeladd's unwilling thrall who refuses to feed on human blood. She sustains herself on small game so she's constantly hungry and not very powerful. She gets stuck doing Askeladd's dirty work like killing Lady Sweyn. Unfortunately, she's unable to complete this task as Lady Sweyn is vampire herself!

#saturn sketches #vinland saga #femland saga #canute #thorfinn #bjorn #askeladd #vampire au

[halloween-central]

🔮 Spooky Watchlist 🔮

I figured I’d share what I tend to watch around this time of year! This includes a wide range of shows/movies ranging from family friendly to rated R stuff so there’s something for everyone! That being said, I know not everyone will like everything I listed, please be kind!

Shows:

Over the Garden Wall

Buzzfeed Unsolved

Scooby Doo

Scream Queens

What We Do in the Shadows

X Files

Buffy the Vampire Slayer

Halloween/ Spooky Episodes:

BTVS:

season 2 episode 6 (Halloween)

season 4 episode 4 (Fear Itself)

season 4 episode 10 (Hush)

season 5 episode 1 (Buffy vs. Dracula)

season 6 episode 6 (All the Way)

Suite Life of Zack and Cody:

season 1 episode 19 (The Ghost of Suite 613)

season 3 episode 12 (Arwinstein)

Simpsons TreeHouse of Horror

(I’m not gonna list all of these because there are over 30)

That 70s Show:

season 2 episode 5 (Halloween)

season 3 episode 4 (Too Old to Trick or Treat, Too Young to Die)

Wizards of Waverly Place:

season 3 episode 2 (Halloween)

iCarly:

season 1 episode 7 (iScream on Halloween)

Zoey 101:

season 2 episode 4 (Haunted House)

Movies:

Scream (1996) (franchise)

Halloween (1978) (franchise)

Twitches (2005)

My Babysitter’s a Vampire (2010)

Halloweentown (1998)

Hocus Pocus (1993)

Corpse Bride (2005)

The Addams Family (1991)

Addams Family Values (1993)

Scooby Doo (2002)

Scooby Doo Monsters Unleashed (2004)

Scooby Doo Camp Scare (2010)

Scooby Doo and the Witch’s Ghost (1999)

Scooby Doo and the Goblin King (2008)

Scooby Doo on Zombie Island (1998)

Scooby Doo Abracadabra Doo (2010)

Scooby Doo Alien Invaders (2000)

Scooby Doo Legend of the Vampire (2003)

Coraline (2009)

Jennifer’s Body (2009)

Van Helsing (2004)

Blade (1998)

Underworld (2003) (film series)

Practical Magic (1998)

Clue (1985)

Zombieland (2009)

Zombieland Double Tap (2019)

Happy Death Day (2017)

Freaky (2020)

Fear Street (film series starting in 2021)

Ready or Not (2019)

A Quiet Place (2018)

A Quiet Place II (2020)

It (1990)

It (2017)

The Omen (1976)

Poltergeist (1982)

The Shining (1980)

The Evil Dead (1981)

Evil Dead II (1987)

The Exorcist (1973)

Horror of Dracula (1958)

Vampyr (1932)

The Birds (1963)

Rear Window (1954)

Vertigo (1958)

Psycho (1960)

Silver Bullet (1985)

Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1992)

I know What You Did Last Summer (1997)

Prom Night (1980)

The Town That Dreaded Sundown (1976)

Jeepers Creepers (2001) (this is a series but I’ve only ever seen the first two)

American Psycho (2000)

The Cabin in the Woods (2011)

Cloverfield (2008)

Paranormal Activity (2007) (also a series but I’ve only seen the first one)

Blair Witch Project (1999) (tbh I have never seen this I’m too scared)

Feel free to add anything you think I might have missed!

#halloween #spooky #autumn #spooky season #horror #slashers #movies #tv shows #watchlist #spooky watchlist #fall watchlist

[goryhorroor]

In genral whats your favorite movies?

my complete list of 60 of my favorite movies (i might make an edit of it sooner or later):

peter pan (2003)

nosferatu (1922)

I married a witch (1942)

black christmas (1974)

9 (2009)

fantastic mr. fox (2009)

metropolis (1927)

mars attacks! (1996)

the sandlot (1993)

vampire hunter d (1985)

sucker punch (2011)

the impossible (2012)

sword of the stranger (2007)

pandora's box (1929)

scooby doo! and the cyber chase (2001)

peter pan (1953)

scoody doo! and the legend of the vampire (2003) (i was a scooby doo child)

the outsiders (1983)

pacific rim (2013)

kramer vs kramer (1979)

howl's moving castle (2004)

captain america: the winter soldier (2014)

return of the jedi (1983)

willy wonka & the chocolate factory (1971)

midnight special (2016)

bottoms (2023)

now you see me (2013)

spirited away (2001)

shutter island (2010)

zodiac (2007)

trick 'r treat (2007)

juno (2007)

return of the living dead (1985)

rec (2007)

dumbo (1941)

double indemnity (1944)

the red shoes (1948)

the asphalt jungle (1950)

godzilla (1954)

the producers (1967)

the boy friend (1971)

coffy (1973)

rumble fish (1983)

oldboy (2003)

spring breakers (2012)

snowpiercer (2013)

green room (2015)

cleoptra (1963)

the florida project (2017)

house of wax (1953)

haxan (1922)

train to busan (2016)

blood on satan's claw (1971)

let the right one in (2008)

vampyr (1932)

pastoral: to die in the country (1974)

gold diggers of 1933 (1933)

grand hotel (1932)

terminator 2: judgement day (1991)

wicked city (1987)

#answered #horror #movies

[cleolinda]

Varney the Vampire: Chapter 16

Chapter 15: Our nephew can't marry some German vampyre!

PREVIOUSLY ON: We had a dance break to introduce two new comic-relief characters. But before that, Flora's sorta-fiancé that she met on the Continent and hadn't seen since showed up, and Flora's oldest brother started trying to warn him (Charles Holland) that since Flora has been bitten by a vampyre, he (Charles Holland) should not marry her. Flora said he should not marry her. The stalwart and faithful Charles Holland is not having any of that shit.

CHAPTER XVI.

THE MEETING OF THE LOVERS IN THE GARDEN. -- AN AFFECTING SCENE. -- THE SUDDEN APPEARANCE OF SIR FRANCIS VARNEY.

Or is he?

Our readers will recollect that Flora Bannerworth had made an appointment with Charles Holland in the garden of the hall. [...] The thought that he should be much urged by Flora to give up all thoughts of making her his, was a most bitter one to him, who loved her with so much truth and constancy, and that she would say all she could to induce such a resolution in his mind he felt certain. But to him the idea of now abandoning her presented itself in the worst of aspects.

Okay but. We just had like a chapter and a half of you swearing up and down that you'd never—

“Dare I be so base as actually or virtually to pad out out the word count say to her, 'Flora, when your beauty was undimmed by sorrow -- when all around you seemed life and joy, I loved you selfishly for the increased happiness which you might bestow upon me; but now the hand of misfortune presses heavily upon you -- you are not what you were, and I desert you?' Never -- never -- never!"

Atta boy.

James Malcolm Rymer decides to throw in that Charles Holland (if you are just joining us, I feel like you always have to say his full name. Rymer often does. It just feels right) "felt more acutely than he reasoned." I'm not sure if this is meant to be snarky or not; at least Rymer follows this up by lauding his "nobility of soul."

As for Flora, Heaven only knows if at that precise time her intellect had completely stood the test of the trying events which had nearly overwhelmed it.

On one hand, I get it: Flora's had a tough week. On the other hand, shut the fuck up, Rymer.

The two grand feelings that seemed to possess her mind were fear of the renewed visits of the vampyre, and an earnest desire to release Charles Holland from his repeated vows of constancy towards her.

She's still holding up better than her brother Henry, who was constantly wailing about how the horror of having a sister bitten by a vampyre ancestor is driving him maaaaad. Flora's intellect seems to be working perfectly fine, however, as she weighs her love for Charles Holland vs. the depth of his suffering: "To link him to her fate, would be to make him to a real extent a sharer in it."

In the sense that he might have to watch her be staked, and grieve her death?

In the sense that she might become a vampyre and come after her nearest and dearest (i.e., him) first, as vampires were folklorically said to do?

In the sense that she might bear… tainted children?!

[And] the more she [had] heard fall from his lips in the way of generous feelings of continued attachment to her, the more severely did she feel that he would suffer most acutely if united to her. And she was right.

But they were going to have a romantic rendezvous to talk this out, right? Charles is now waiting for her in Bannerworth Hall's [overdescribed] flower garden, secluded from the main building,

and in its centre was a summer-house, which at the usual season of the year was covered with all kinds of creeping plants of exquisite perfumes, and rare beauty. All around, too, bloomed the fairest and sweetest of flowers, which a rich soil and a sheltered situation could produce.

Honestly, I had a long discussion/comparison of Flora to Stoker's Lucy Westenra here, and I feel like it needs to go take a nap and come back some other time as a separate post. But suffice it to say, I think wealth is an important factor in how pleasantly "sheltered" these two characters are: not to take anything away from their sweetness and purity of heart (this is where I start going on about how misunderstood Lucy is), but they can afford to be sweet and lovely and naive, if you see what I'm saying (and this is more apparent in Dracula, in comparison to Mina, her level head, and her professional skills). As much as we need to point out that Rymer is romanticizing whiteness (figuratively and literally), I think we also have to consider that he's romanticizing wealth—class—by going on and on about a family estate with a large, "sheltered," professionally-tended garden.

Rymer continues this metaphor by saying that the "more estimable Flora floral culture" has declined,

for the decayed fortunes of the family had prevented them from keeping the necessary servants, to place the Hall and its grounds in a state of neatness, such as it had once been the pride of the inhabitants of the place to see them. It was then in this flower-garden that Charles and Flora used to meet.

I SAID, THAT SHE MET ON THE CONTINENT AND HASN'T SEEN SINCE

Nonetheless, Charles Holland has arrived early to this garden of lies. He is ready to romance. "Aníron" plays softly in the distance.

A light sound, as of some fairy footstep among the flowers, came upon his ears, and turning instantly to the direction from whence the sound proceeded, he saw what his heart had previously assured him of, namely that it was his Flora that was coming.

Alas, the flower that to his mind was fairer than them all, was blighted, and in the wan cheek of her whom he loved, he sighed to see the lily usurping the place of the radiant rose.

Yes, it was she; but, ah, how pale, how wan -- how languid and full of the evidences of much mental suffering was she. Where now was the elasticity of that youthful step? Where now was that lustrous beaming beauty of mirthfulness, which was wont to dawn in those eyes? Alas, all was changed. The exquisite beauty of form was there, but the light of joy which had lent its most transcendent charms to that heavenly face, was gone.

There's a reason Rymer goes to such lengths to (also; additionally; is there anything he doesn't) romanticize Flora's ill health:

While tuberculosis has been traced back thousands of years (and is still considered a pandemic), it wasn't named as such until 1834. And because it wasn't identified as a single disease until the 1820s, it was often thought to be vampirism: blood would appear on a patient's lips, people around them would also sicken and die, and so on. The colloquial name for tuberculosis (as you probably know) was consumption, even: being consumed by something unseen, unto death.

But as the Dead Maidens article up there points out, tuberculosis was glamorized among the upper class (not the only class who came down with it, mind you). Tuberculosis, as diseases go, had more dignity than dysentery and cholera, and happened to exaggerate what people already considered to be attractive:

[Early] symptoms seemed to heighten already established beauty standards of the time, and a wealthy young woman could waste away for years before the horrible end came. In the meantime, poor circulation turned fair complexions ghastly white. The blue veins and translucent fragile skin were treated as a crystalline delicacy. The constant low fever kept the cheeks and lips flushed with a rosy hue and the eyes wide and watery. Patients would waste away growing ethereally thin.

Chicken or egg: Did tuberculosis underline existing beauty ideals, or was it a matter of people glamorizing what they saw happening around them anyway? Yes, I think, is the answer to that.

Meanwhile, the contagion ramped up through the 1700s and 1800s, and when you combine this with the increase in both literacy and affordable publishing during the Industrial Revolution, you get the first era, the pre-Dracula era, of Western vampire literature, starting with Lenore (1773) and The Bride of Corinth (1797). (Which were published after the 1750s Austrian Vampire Problem we talked about last time.) Meanwhile, in 2023, I wrote a gigantic digression about heroes coddling heroines as validation for readers who feel unvalidated and beauty as virtue that I am straight-up going to have to cut out and maybe post separately, because this recap is already way too long.

ANYWAY, MY DEAR FLORA, said Charles Holland,

"remember that there are warm hearts that love you. Remember that neither time nor circumstance can change such endearing affection as mine. [...] Wherefore, Flora, would you still the voice of pure affection? I love you surely, as few have ever loved."

I love this shit. I absolutely love stories where Our Hero (Gender Neutral) tells me the Reader Proxy, for several paragraphs, that they love her/him/them heart and mind and body and soul for all time unto the heat death of the universe. LOVE. THAT. SHIT.

No, cries Flora! We mustn't! (But we MUST!) I will not quote all of this scene to you, but suffice it to say that they argue over how Charles Holland's entire face would shout his love if his tongue didn't happen to show up at the office that day. He is not just words! He is action! No, you mustn't! BUT I MUST! Love it.

Notice, though, how you must not is not I do not want you to. A lot of older romance writing either doesn't care about consent (I know a number of current romance writers who do, very much much so), or it stays sort of muddled and unclear as to how much a heroine is really into it. This may be either in the spirit of dubcon or honestly, because characters in an era when they weren't supposed to touch (Charles and Flora are actually pretty handsy. Waist action happens) are kind of pushing the envelope by talking too much about it at all. Flora may really be saying, "Charles Holland, we mustn't speak of love at such agonizing length in a wholesome publication!" ("I mean, is a pamphlet that wholesome, it's not a real newspaper or anything...") "Well, it has to be reasonably decent! I have to at least blush and avert my maidenly eyes every couple of sentences! We should probably talk about God watching us at some point!" ("Like... watching us...?") ("NO!!!")

"I must not now hear this. Great God of Heaven give me strength to carry out the purpose of my soul. […] Charles, I know I cannot reason with you. I know I have not power of language, aptitude of illustration, nor depth of thought to hold a mental contention with you."

POINTS:

Flora needing strength to carry out her purpose—refusing Charles Holland—underlines that this is something she does not, in fact, want to do. While Charles Holland's persistence might be functionally indistinguishable from Dude Who Won't Take No For An Answer, here in a fictional context, we're given cues that Charles understands correctly that Flora is only trying to break up with him For His Own Good.

Compared to these frequent comments on Flora's allegedly weak intellect, can you see how "She has man’s brain [and] a woman's heart" is actually a fairly decent compliment to Mina Harker on Stoker's part?

Shut the fuck up, Rymer

Why not speak of love, demands Charles Holland?? We spoke of love 24/7 on the Continent! Whyfore not thereunto??

"I am changed, Charles. Fearfully changed. The curse of God has fallen upon me, I know not why. I know not that in word or in thought I have done evil, except perchance unwittingly, and yet -- the vampyre."

Charles Holland insists that there's got to be a rational explanation, because he is not actually the one who shot a vampyre in the face, nor has he been anyone's repast. To which Flora basically says, "WELL FIND ONE THEN." Saying which, she flings herself onto a seat in the summer-house (I'm imagining a gazebo here), and "covering her beautiful face with her hands, [sobs] compulsively." To hundreds of words of Charles Holland's dismay, Flora goes on to say that he should go find someone else, and "justice, religion, mercy -- every human attribute which bears the name of virtue" calls upon her to dump him. Which, again: if Flora really wanted to break up with him, she wouldn't be talking about all the external factors making her do it. There are several great breakup scenes in English-language literature of the 1800s from Pride and Prejudice onward, and this, on many levels, is not one of them. Charles Holland (and a reader used to this kind of writing) would pick up on that subtext. (Truly, I cannot emphasize enough that fiction is not real life. Don't presume to know what other people "really" mean IRL.) Thus, Charles Holland counters with the wonderful marshmallow romance goo:

"Well I know that gentle maiden modesty [that we need to have in this Reasonably Decent Publication] would seal your lips to the soft confession that you love me. I could not hope the joy of hearing you utter these words. The tender devoted lover is content to see the truthful passion in the speaking eyes of beauty. Content is he to translate it from a thousand acts, which, to eyes that look not so acutely as a lover's, bear no signification; but when you tell me to seek happiness with another, well may the anxious question burst from my throbbing heart of, 'Did you ever love me, Flora?'" Her senses hung entranced upon his words. Oh, what a witchery is in the tongue of love. Some even of the former colour of her cheek returned as, forgetting all for the moment but that she was listening to the voice of him, the thoughts of whom had made up the day dream of her happiness, she gazed upon his face. His voice ceased. To her it seemed as if some music had suddenly left off in its most exquisite passage. She clung to his arm -- she looked imploringly up to him. Her head sunk upon his breast as she cried, "Charles, Charles, I did love you. I do love you now." "Then let sorrow and misfortune shake their grisly locks in vain," he cried. "Heart to heart -- hand to hand with me, defy them."

Their... gory hair? ANYWAY WE DEFY THE FATES, BELOVED! OUR LOVE CONQUERS ALL! WE CARE-BEAR STARE AT DESTINY, FLORA! Good hustle, that's what I wanna hear.

He lifted up his arms towards Heaven as he spoke, and at the moment came such a rattling peal of thunder, that the very earth seemed to shake upon its axis. [Flora screams and there is extensive discussion of how scary it is.] Another peal, of almost equal intensity to the other, shook the firmament. Flora trembled.

Gonna be honest, I thought for a moment that Varney was falling off a wall again. Flora declares that this is the Voice of Heaven insisting that they break up forever, but Charles Holland insists that

"The sunshine of joy will shine on you again." There was a small break in the clouds, like a window looking into Heaven. From it streamed one beam of sunlight, so bright, so dazzling, and so beautiful, that it was a sight of wonder to look upon. It fell upon the face of Flora; it warmed her cheek; it lent lustre to her pale lips and tearful eyes; it illuminated that little summer-house as if it had been the shrine of some saint.

Here we go again, let's note, with the insistence that Flora is intrinsically pure. How you like them omens? Now this, this is a promise of God, and yea, a dove with an olive branch probably flies through a rainbow somewhere over the house. Back in the day, I took a graduate class on (American, mid-1800s) sentimental literature, which my professor characterized as "weepin' and prayin'." A certain kind of Protestant piety runs deep through these texts—not just the American ones—and appears as a default mindset in a lot of 19th-century literature:

Most of the high profile female writers of this period were committed Christians. The Broad Church Brontës, the Unitarian Mrs Gaskell and the systematically unconventional Emily Dickinson made much use of their faith in their work. So did George Eliot, supersaturated with a religion in which she no longer believed, yet an accomplished theologian. The male writers were often committed believers too, despite the apparently worldly outlook of many, including apparently cynical Thackeray and robustly conventional Trollope. Throughout Victoria's reign, religious controversy simmers, not only among journalists but poets and novelists too. These Christian turf wars are sometimes edited out of readings of Victorian texts because they might not feel relevant to modern studies. Marianne Thormählen in The Brontës and Religion sees it differently: ‘The Christian life is a foreign country to most people today and I believe it serves some purpose to be reminded that to the Brontës it was home.’

The flip side of this is that vampire fiction tends to bring in a Catholic Christian vibe: no matter what denomination anyone was before the fangs came out, let's throw holy water and a wafer at the problem. But in the meantime!

She allowed him to clasp her to his heart. It was beating for her, and for her only.  [...] "Charles, we will live, love, and die together."

In "a wrapt stillness" and "a trance of joy," they stare at each other and smile and nearly cry for a good long while, which is very sweet. BUT THEN!

A shriek burst from Flora's lips -- as shriek so wild and shrill that it awakened echoes far and near. Charles staggered back a step, as if shot, and then in such agonised accents as he was long indeed in banishing the remembrance of, she cried, -- "The vampyre! the vampyre!"

Yeah, that's the chapter. You might recall that Sir Francis the Vampyre expressed hopes of courting Flora, so this is gonna get interesting.

Varney the Vampire masterpost

#varney the vampire #vampires #vampire studies #long post #recaps #tuberculosis #epidemics #beauty

[vickyvicarious]

If you wanted to read a comparative literature meta between Dracula and another novel, which one would you choose?

Ooh... This is a really interesting ask. First of all, it's not if - I definitely would want to read that! The only difficulty is in narrowing down the candidates. It's hard to choose, honestly. Ideally it would be nice to compare a novel that explores some of the same themes but in a different way.

The Beetle is also a horror novel that has the fear of foreigners/the other as typified by a supernatural entity arriving in London. It also has multiple narrators as well, who all have to hunt down their fleeing foe on a train in order to save the main woman in the cast. But it doesn't really delve much into old vs. new for example, and it is just... so bad. Every character is worse, the writing is worse, comparing these two books is all the way through just a case of ragging on Marsh's work for being worse, honestly. Ideally for me, both books in such a meta would be good.

Varney the Vampire, Carmilla, and The Vampyre are all classic vampire stories, and it's interesting to compare them to Dracula when you think about what kinds of influences Stoker may have taken from them. But they don't share the same themes as much outside of that. Varney is a penny dreadful and outside of superficial aspects of some scenes/character roles I don't see tons of resemblance to Stoker's work; it's written as a sprawling dramatic tale designed to keep entertaining casual readers over time, unlike the still large yet self-contained and more intense in tone novel by Stoker. (Admittedly, I'm less than halfway through Varney so that's what my opinion is based on. I do find the treatment of Flora as a victim of a vampire to be an interesting point of comparison to the way Mina and Lucy were treated.) And the other two are both much shorter and more constrained to their horror story. They don't have as big of a cast and they don't have as prolonged fights against their vampires, either.

Other classic 'gothic fiction' such as The Phantom of the Opera, The Picture of Dorian Gray or The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde have their own merits as well. Phantom has a similar path in adaptations making the main antagonist into a troubled romantic hero. But that's more about adaptations than the novels themselves, which don't have as much in common as others on this list. Dorian Gray could be a good comparison as far as homosexual subtext (or really, just text in DG) and if one wanted to discuss the idea of nonaging beings. But while Dracula doesn't age and doesn't really grow/change and there are some potentially interesting discussions to be had there, that's more a case of those two characters rather than the two novels as a whole. Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is presented as more of a detective story, which is both true to, and an aspect of Dracula that doesn't usually get as much attention as it should. So that could be fun. There's also an interesting thread with Jekyll's experimentation as a 'new manmade' horror vs. Dracula's 'old supernatural' horror, and potential contrast between that very homegrown versus foreign danger, and even the idea of an alternate self being released. But the Bloofer Lady and Mr. Hyde, for example, are very different cases in many ways. And there's again a much smaller cast and scale to the story, so there are a lot more pieces of Dracula that don't have as much of an equivalent to compare. (That too could of course be interesting to contrast, but it's a different sort of meta more focused on the novel's role in the genre for example, than the closer comparison your ask makes me envision.) Honestly, with its themes of culpability/respectability, I see it comparing more easily to Dorian Gray than Dracula.

The Woman In White would actually be quite an interesting comparison, even though it's not really in the same genre. It's not a supernatural horror, however much it flirts with dramatic gothic imagery especially at the beginning. But it does have a bunch of other stuff in common. The villainous foreign Count is an obvious one, but specifically Dracula and Fosco's attraction to certain individuals and like of breaking them is another link. Both have intelligent heroes who are quite methodical about their approaches. Jonathan and Laura's experiences have quite interesting similarities (as well as, to an extent, Lucy and Anne, not just to one another but to the aforementioned characters as well), especially in the contrasting ways they are treated later in the novels. The use of female characters in general has some really discussable similarities and differences (Mina vs. Marian as well as in general). Mr. Fairlie and Mrs. Westenra fill a similar role. Both books are epistolary, with a heavy focus on the characters themselves gathering documents with different perspectives of events to help them figure things out (that detective aspect). Trains and timetables are important in both in a way, and though Dracula is more intentional about the contrast of modern/ancient there is a potential thread to be discussed there. In general, they both get weird about foreigners in ways that could also be talked about at length, specifically in regard to the villains vs. the heroes and how nationality and perceived nationality/stereotypes play into their respective roles. The idea of madness vs. sanity is also a theme in both, and both have characters with differing degrees of memory loss and inability to talk about their experiences. If we're looking for an overall comparison of both novels as a whole, as well as multiple different points of connection/comparison, I think this may be the best one so far.

Of course, this is all just thinking of more contemporary works to Dracula. It's also a list influenced by what I've been reading and thinking about more for the past year, so there are probably other books I'll think of later. But for now, that's my long and rambly answer!

#dracula daily #books #dracula meta #not really meta itself so much as discussion of possible meta to be had but hey close enough #this was a great ask lots of fun to think about #i thought of other books too but in terms of both what's in the novel and the role it plays in 'classic fiction' these were the biggest one #that have occurred to me so far at least #replies #anonymous

[this-insidious-dawn]

I love vampire related anything, so was excited to find this.vampirism? And the concept is super interesting overall. I'm curious what the rules for vampirism are in this world? Standard can't go in the sun, aversion to holy things n garlic or something else. Also how does one become a vampyr?

alright this is the question huh.

so, first things first, vampires and vampyr are different things in the world of TID. the biological difference is really quite minimal, but the social difference is massive. vampyrism is caused in two primary ways: contact with 1. a vampyr, or 2. an especially powerful riftspawn (creatures from outside of this realm). to cause the vampyrism, rift magic (magic from out of the realm) must be sealed within their body in some way. this can be caused by nearly any wound gained from direct contact with a vampyr or riftspawn.

the transformation speed depends upon the amount of rift magic sealed within the victim, and the status of the wound. if the wound is left open, the rift magic slowly trickles out of them, resulting in a slower, more painful transformation. most of the pain is internal, but some physical changes also take place- the teeth, claws, and black-sclera eyes being caused by such changes. there is such a thing as an incomplete transformation, wherein there was either not enough rift magic in the body to constitute a full transformation OR an external event occurs that in some way stops it. those afflicted by an incomplete transformation usually die within a few days as their body is trapped in an odd sort of limbo and uses up an INSANSE amount of energy, both physical (ie food, water) and magical, just to maintain life.

either way, vampyrism manifests as incredibly volatile magic that can transcend the bounds of usual magic- but at the price of the vampyr not having any natural magic well to call upon. thus, their hunger for blood, the physical manifestation of one's life-force and magic. vampyr function as sort of...vessels. they cannot naturally hold magic from this world unless they drain it from someone else, but they can hold rift magic, and act as siphons- energy runs from Gorges (tears into other realms) directly into vampyr, strengthening them. the presence of this magic destabilizes the world and allows the vampyr literal immortality- as in, the ability to return from death.

vampires are vampyr who have had their connection to rift magic severed. they can no longer wield said magic, but it re-establishes their connection to the realm they're in to a nearly pre-turned point. vampires, while unable to control rift magic, can still sense its presence, and thus are used to hunt down Gorges and destroy any riftspawn that have crossed through. notably, the ritual performed to turn a vampyr to a vampire has only been seen in the League of the Third God, and they aren't exactly keen to share with outsiders.

as for the sun/holy things/garlic part of your question, only the sun out of these things has an effect on them. it has a particularly strong effect on vampyr, being able to send them into a sort of frenzy and, if they're out in it for too long, causing burning and warping of the skin. sun exposure can kill a vampyr. in contrast, vampires suffer headaches and general body pain from sun exposure, and may become irritable, but can suffer no deeper harm from it.

notably, iron weapons -- which have a particularly strong effect on nearly all riftspawn - have no special properties when applied to a vampyr or vampire. in fact, iron entering their body, be it through a cut, arrow, etc, helps to speed up their already-accelerated internal healing processes.

ty for the ask!

#this got VERY long winded lol #srry </3 #ask #worldbuilding #this insidious dawn if #i hope this is at all legible lmfao #vampyrism #vampires vs vampyr #<- smth tells me this may come up a lot

[haveyouseenthishorrormovie]

Stats from Movies 701-800

Top 10 Movies - Highest Number of Votes

Ringu (1998) had the most votes with 1,327 votes. Chillerama (2011) had the least votes with 360 votes.

The 10 Most Watched Films by Percentage

Beetlejuice (1988) was the most watched film with 80.9% of voters out of 780 saying they had seen it. Demonic Christmas Tree (2022) had the least "Yes" votes with 0.4% of voters out of 491.

The 10 Least Watched Films by Percentage

The Nun 2 (2023) was the least watched film with 70.6% of voters out of 633 saying they hadn’t seen it. Demonic Christmas Tree (2022) had the least "No" votes with 9.2% of voters out of 491.

The 10 Most Known Films by Percentage

Beetlejuice (1988) was the best known film, only 0.4% of voters out of 780 saying they’d never heard of it.

The 10 Least Known Films by Percentage

Demonic Christmas Tree (2022) was the least known film, 90,4% of voters out of 491 saying they’d never heard of it.

The movies part of the statistic count and their polls below the cut.

The Uninvited (1944) The Crazies (1973) Witchfinder General (1968) The Conspiracy (2012) When a Stranger Calls (1979) The Evictors (1979) The Birds (1963) Ice Spiders (2007) Rubber (2010) Eyes of Laura Mars (1978)

Daughters of Darkness (1971) Akira (1988) The End of Evangelion (1997) The Woman in Black (2012) Milfs vs. Zombies (2015) Knife + Heart (2018) It's a Wonderful Knife (2023) Attachment (2022) Gothic (1986) Jakob's Wife (2021)

Stranger by the Lake (2013) The Fog (2005) The Greasy Strangler (2016) Angel Heart (1987) Tumbbad (2018) The Snow Woman (1968) Sugar Hill (1974) Saloum (2021) WNUF Halloween Special (2013)

Sound of Violence (2021) Nosferatu the Vampyre (1979) The Haunting of Molly Hartley (2008) Death Laid an Egg (1968) Baskin (2015) The Last Will and Testament of Rosalind Leigh (2012) The Fearless Vampire Killers (1967) The Haunting of Julia (1977) The House That Dripped Blood (1971) Megan Is Missing (2011)

Ringu (1998) Three... Extremes (2004) Trench 11 (2017) Out There Halloween Mega Tape (2022) Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer (1986) The Driller Killer (1979) Berberian Sound Studio (2012) One Cut of the Dead (2017) Demonic Christmas Tree (2022) Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker (1981)

Urban Legends: Bloody Mary (2005) Motel Hell (1980) Shallow Ground (2004) Annabelle: Creation (2017) Annabelle Comes Home (2019) The Conjuring 2 (2016) The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It (2021) Morgan (2016) Sputnik (2020) Devil's Pass (2013)

Dracula's Daughter (1936) Dagon (2001) We Are Still Here (2015) We Are What We Are (2013) Somos lo que hay (2010) The Serpent and the Rainbow (1988) Midori (1992) The Believers (1987) Troll 2 (1990) Chillerama (2011)

The Town That Dreaded Sundown (1976) The Mortuary Collection (2019) The Little Girl Who Lives Down the Lane (1976) The Pit and the Pendulum (1991) House (1985) Flatliners (1990) The Town That Dreaded Sundown (2014) Crimson Peak (2015) Frailty (2001) Hell Night (1981)

Eyes of Fire (1983) Sister Death (2023) Tonight She Comes (2016) Bad Dreams (1988) Dead Snow (2009) Dead Snow 2: Red vs. Dead (2014) Veronica (2017) The Nun II (2023) Brotherhood of the Wolf (2001) Maniac (1980)

Man's Best Friend (1993) M.O.M. Mothers of Monsters (2020) The Reptile (1966) She Creature (2001) Beetlejuice (1988) The Incredible Melting Man (1977) Kandisha (2020) So Vam (2021) Bit (2019) Death Proof (2007)

#recap

[monstrous-tournament]

Igor¹ vs. Igor²

Apologieth for the delay, kind followerth; I have already booked a timethlot with the local torturer.

Well of courth you know which Igor ith which - ithn't it obviouth? Oh, all right, if you feel you mutht, you can peek under the readmore and read the footnoteth.

¹This Igor works for the Ankh-Morpork city watch. He is unemployable in Überwald because he is too modern; he refuses to call any man master, he breeds body parts instead of waiting for donors (he calls it bio-artificing) , and he doesn't lisp - at least most of the time.

²This Igor is the loyal servant of Bela de Magpyr, a vampire aristocrat of the old school. Igor knows that the true way of life for a vampire nobleman is to be a good sportsman, and so he assists Count Bela De Magpyr in making Don'tgonearthe Castle a good place for adventurous young men from recently attacked towns to have a good time hunting for the Count. Igor is in charge of making the doors creaky, making the candles dribbly, and making the dungeons dusty and full of cobwebs, taking dust to scatter on the floor and whipping the spiders into work when necessary. When Count Bela De Magpyr goes to sleep and his nephew takes over the Count title, the Castle, and decides to be a modern vampyre, Igor becomes very disgruntled. This Igor, like others, is a good transplant surgeon. He has a dog named Scraps Thcrapth who has parts of different dogs, including two tails. Other than being loyal to Count Bela De Magpyr, Igor's deepest emotional attachment is to Scraps.

#monstrous tournament #bracket #igor bracket #round 2 #igor

[dammit-theclown]

I haven’t seen much reference to it on tumblr, so here it is

My favorite vampire forum, Smoke And Mirrors

Disclaimer: I’ve never been a member as participation was at its peak around the 2000s and got really sparse after the 2010s. It’s both a real-life vampire forum and an otherkin forum; really interesting to see how these communities worked in tandem at the time. There’s not a particular psychic vs. sang bias; both are viewed as real and respected. Topics range from medical safety for blood-feeders to psychic protection to community chatter about identity.

Highly recommended for people interested in otherkin/alterhuman web history and vampyres alike! Feel free to talk to me about what you find!

#otherkin #vampyre community #vampire community #real vampire #otherkind #alterhuman #sanguinarian vampire #sanguinarian #psi vampire #psychic vampire #vampirekin #therian #therianthropy

[neversetyoufree]

Miscellaneous Meta

(Back to the Masterpost)

The volume 3 cover

Why I kinda like the horny scenes

How we see events that Noé didn’t

Vnc is relationship-driven like Hannibal

The arbitrary distribution of power

Vanitas paintings and significance

Luna’s “Vanitas” title

Dante’s nickname for Noé

The “salvation” of Catherine

Misha Apologia

Is fear of the Blue Moon innate?

The Dhampirs' Names

Louis’s name

Veronica’s relationship with Domi

What if Noé drinks Jeanne’s blood?

Vnc and the female gaze

Luna’s Self-Destructive Vengeance

VnC’s Metaphysics

Is Jean-Jacques a cannibal?

Who’s the bat guy?

VnC and Physical Desire

The Sexual Horror of Vampires

Jeanne’s Parents’ Execution

The Timeline of VaniJeanne

Why all the Romance Talk?

VnC FMA Parallels

Ship Discourse? (No.)

Death in VnC vs Tai Sui

VaNoé as The Great Gatsby

Vanitas vs Luo Binghe

Olivier and "Vampire Friends"

The Allusions of Doctor Moreau

Ruthven, The Vampyre, and Byron

Does Ruthven Hate Vanitas?

The Benefit of Roland's Poverty

Do Marks Transfer Power?

Could Murr Choose Noé?

Mikhail and Mischa Lecter

VnC and Classic Vampire Lit

Humans, Blood, and Sexual Violence

VnC and Banana Fish

Why Jeanne's Parents Were Killed

Machina's House of Cards

Is Francis Really an Archiviste?

#organization #long post

[letstalkwhump]

Let's Talk Whump No.11

Welcome to Let’s Talk Whump, a series of interviews that spotlight the amazing people in our whump community. I’m Malice and I’ll be your host. 

Today we have @zillstar13 joining us to share their whump story!

Good to have you here, Abraham! Let’s start with a fact about yourself?

I collect all sorts of things. From antique dolls, to rocks, to old bottles, to rusty metal trash, to Halloween decorations. 

And what does whump mean to you?

A story or art piece centered around a character being hurt in some way, especially if it is posted to the internet or put in a zine. 

My writing is whump. Dracula is whump. The doodles of Marie Antoinette I drew in elementary school are whump. It's very vague and fluid, just how I like it. 

How did you find the whump community? What made you want to join? 

Tumblr. My friend Mac N Cheese supported my exercises in writing whump before I was bold enough to post anything. He doesn't write whump (as of right now, I'm trying to get him hooked) but has been beta reading my writing since I started posting.  

Has your view on whump changed since you joined? Are there tropes you now love/hate that you didn't at first? Maybe your choice of OC vs Fandom? Or even your style ie going from mainly writing to gifmaking or art?

I used to hate most vampire whump. My first series, Our Man Flint, was a vampire whump story with heavy focus on colonial America period folklore and Puritan beliefs. 

I couldn't stand most modern interpretations of vampires written by people lacking my vast knowledge of Slavic and colonial folklore. But it's grown on me tons since then. 

I still very much prefer folklore vampires, or ones similar to Bram Stoker's Dracula. But modern vampires stripped of historical context can be fun sometimes. I do appreciate how fluid they are as a species. 

I guess Mill coaxed me out of my shell after I coaxed him in the complete opposite direction.

Do you have any favourite whump trope?

I love whump based on religion and folklore. Whether it be real/historical or invented for the story. Spirits, vampires, gods, and whatever else. It is simply fascinating and scratches a particular niche in my brain. 

What is a favourite piece that you've written? Hype yourself up, we want to hear it!

I love all of my work. But at the moment I simply adore Blood Sacrifices. Its position as my favorite will probably have changed by the time this is posted. 

It's an ongoing story about a vampire posing as a pagan god to take advantage of a society practicing human sacrifices. It's very dark for obvious reasons, but human sacrifice is such an interesting concept to me. 

There is a lot of religious abuse, for obvious reasons. Including heavily explored emotional and sexual abuse of one of the priests, and straight up torture of another. I view some of it as dark comedy, but in a truly twisted sense. And it could easily be interpreted as completely serious. 

I haven't gotten to delve into all of the folklore and religion yet, but boy do I have some amazing things planned. 

Religion based whump is so good! Do you mind sharing your writing routine with us?

I write every day, but the amount fluctuates wildly. I mostly write when I'm supposed to be doing something else, like cleaning or eating, but the executive dysfunction is throttling my brain. 

I write a lot in the evening. I drink a lot while writing. But that's incidental as I always have water, tea, coffee, or hot chocolate right on hand. 

Is there anything you struggle with writing? What comes easily for you?

I'm really good at writing emotional abuse, gas lighting, religious abuse, manipulation, and all that sort of thing. Writing is 80% trauma and 20% skill and I'm banking on the trauma, with a splash of purple prose for good measure.

I have a hard time writing about recovery. I write hurt/no comfort. I cannot find it in me to let my traumatized characters recover. Some people find it cathartic, but I'm the opposite. If I'm stuck with my trauma, they are too. I don't vibe with writing healing arcs. 

Is there anything you're working on at the moment? 

I have so many ongoing series, it isn't even funny anymore. I'm participating in the Whumpay event. I passed Whumpril with flying colors and am hoping to keep up the energy. The final chapter of Our Man Flint is slowly being picked away at but I have little motivation at present. 

Do you have any advice for our readers?

Write the most deranged things possible. Project your traumas and insecurities onto all of your characters. Weave pieces of your past, present, and future into the narrative that it can't be separated from you. 

Your writing will be much better if you pour your heart and soul into it. It will feel horribly vulnerable at first, but that does get better. And I enjoy it much more than I ever enjoyed writing popular cliches and random two dimensions ideas. 

Shout out to your favourite writing/whump blogs, bffs or people who've inspired you. We're hyping everyone one up here!!!

@elim-flower For supporting me so well, being a truly amazing best friend, talking through all of my problems, and letting me draw us as a vampire and a ferret. 

@heavenly-whumper For being my best friend in the whump community, and outside of it, and for keeping all my secrets and letting me keep yours. 

@devourerofcheesecake For letting me use our coffee/antique shop dates as an excuse to ramble about my writing for hours on end. 

@whumpshaped For helping me through all the niche fears of being a writer with NPD, and saying deranged things about my characters whenever I post. 

@whumpsday For all the truly extensive moral support, acceptance, good advice, optimism, and being a fantastic source of supply. 

@skittles-the-whumpee For being a good friend and staying up late talking with me about our lives, pasts, fears, hopes, and problems. 

Anything you'd like to add? <3

I fucking love this god forsaken community. 

Thanks for taking the time to chat with us, @/zillstar13!

And to all you folks at home, have a whump-derful day!