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Coriolanus Snow is portrayed by a white man and Lucy Gray is played by a woman of colour and Romani coded, so guess what the hot takes are:
Lucy is an evil seductress who manipulated Snow.
It’s Lucy’s fault Snow turned evil, she abandoned him.
Snow was the real victim because he felt bad sometimes, Lucy never did.
Lucy deserves to die for hurting Snow’s feelings.
It actually makes me grateful Katniss was played by a white woman, Lord only knows what awful takes we’d be getting if Shay Mitchell had been cast instead.
ugh I was hoping to avoid the tags (I wasn't going to see the movie in theaters but my family does but I don't think we'll see it until xmas eve) but I guess since Rachel is getting racist hate I should start calling this out.
but just a few things
I knew this was going to be a shitshow based on reading the book alone.
I'm not sure where you're getting that Lucy is Romani coded? Is that coming from Collins?
Coriolanus snow was literally a conniving manipulater/murderer how is this Lucy's fault? (again based on the book).
Not sure where you're getting that Shay Mitchell should have been Katniss (don't get me wrong I love shay she's the main reason I watched so much of pll but like... this fancasting is news to me).
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cinemaven99 · 2 years
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captaincolossal · 2 years
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I gotta be honest, I think the third Hunger Games film does a lot of important narrative work, but as a film it's kind of disjointed. It's a lot of, like, getting pieces in place for the fourth film, which...you need, obviously, but there's so much world building, exposition, and character stuff, that there's not really A main story arc to Mockingjay - Part 1 (2014) itself. Again, not to downplay what the film does, because it covers a lot of ground, but it's just. Tricky. Because while it's the third of four films, it's also the first half of the third installment in a trilogy and there isn't really a story there, and it is - by necessity, honestly - very unresolved, and not just in a "oh what a terrible cliffhanger!" way. I didn't dislike it, but even last night I didn't really have any closing thoughts or particular feelings on the film as a whole. There are actually a lot of things I like about it, but if I had to summarize the film in one sentence? I don't know. It's a good time, but it is all world building, politics, and character development.
The Hunger Games: Mockingjay - Part 2 (2015)
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Mm, I actually find Movie!Gale kind of tedious.
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fictionadventurer · 5 months
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Personally, it's always a bit wild to me to see commentators interact with the Hunger Games franchise as if Collins were writing science fiction stories instead of essays with faces. She's just not that interested in fleshing out side characters or digging into the details of the worldbuilding. These characters are concepts and symbols before they're people. There's an almost mathematical precision to who and what she explores and how deeply she does it. This is a step or two away from pure allegory. If she were writing a couple of centuries ago, she'd have named her characters things like Innocence and Anger and Watch-Carefully-Your-Soul-Lest-Ye-Be-Damned, but since she's writing for modern audiences, she has to settle for puns and allusions. If she has another essay to write, she'll assign some faces to it; she's not going to look into backstories or other eras just for the sake of storytelling, and it's not a failing as a writer that she doesn't.
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homosherb · 29 days
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“i thought you hated straight couples??”
how DARE YOU assume i would EVER mean them
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fictionaltrvlr · 6 months
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I’m obsessed with all the repeating themes in the Hunger Games, but one I’m absolutely in love with is how Snow can never escape Lucy Gray.
[This post contains spoilers!]
We know this almost immediately simply from the title, Songbirds and Snakes, as we remember Katniss and her mockingjay and singing in the arena. But this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Snow hates Katniss for the rebellion, of course. But perhaps more than that is what a call she is to his lost love, not in personality so much as spirit.
Lucy Gray is Truly Inescapable
Lucy Gray is named for the Ballad of Lucy Gray, and immediately when we learn this, there is the sinking knowledge that she will not survive this story.
But after the disappearance of the ballad’s Lucy Gray, they follow her footprints, the impressions she’s left behind. And later is one of my favourite lines from the ballad:
Yet some maintain that to this day She is a living Child, That you may see sweet Lucy Gray Upon the lonesome Wild.
To all the knowledge that the girls family has, she has died. But they still see her.
And also pulling in the newly released Can’t Catch Me Now:
But I'm in the trees, I'm in the breeze My footsteps on the ground You'll see my face in every place But you can't catch me now
(I’m so in love with how well this song ties the franchise together, it’s so perfect)
From the second he lands in Twelve, Snow hates the mockingjays and does his best to eradicate them. He sees them as unnatural creatures who survived not only without the Capitol, but inspite of them. And yet he fails to get rid of them, the mockingjays survive despite his best efforts.
And even years later, their sheer existence haunts him, eventually proving to be one of his greatest failures.
And all of the messes you made Yeah, you think that you got away
This is a great line to me because, since this being told from the perspective of Lucy Gray, it turns the story on its head. We and Snow are never really sure if she survived, so you could think that she got away. But it’s in fact Snow who has deluded himself into getting away from her. She will follow him, everywhere, for the rest of his miserable life.
At the end of TBOSAS, he says there would be a vague memory of a girl who had once sung in the arena, and that Lucy Gray and her mockingjays could never hurt him again.
Then gloriously, devastatingly, 65 years later Snow sees another girl with braided hair from Distinct Twelve in the games, adorned with a mockingjay, who sings Rue to sleep, who escapes the arena by cheating with something the Capitol themselves has provided (Katniss with the berries, Lucy Gray with the snakes).
Katniss, who then goes on to spark rebellion with that same symbol of mockingjays, with the song that Lucy Gray penned.
Snow is seeing Lucy Gray everywhere, in the mockingjays, in Peeta’s personality, in Katniss’ appearance, in the song about that tree that changed his life. But he cannot catch her.
He tried, and never knew if he succeeded. But she is everywhere, the symbol of his weakness, the one thing that maybe could have made him give up his future. The person who made him come to detest the very idea of love, who made him swear that if he ever married it will be to someone he hates so they could never manipulate him.
Her spirit chokes him. He is drowning in her and her mockingjays, and they finally are his downfall.
And that is beautiful.
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the strangest part of YA books stipulating the ages of their protagonists is like,,,,, eventually, you get to that age, and you reread the books, and you wonder at how any of these characters survived for so long when the average 15-18 year old can barely organise and complete a group project, let alone topple governments
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fandomcentralsposts · 5 months
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I want to know why Peter Dinklage has such a problem with Jennifer Lawrence 😭
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ssparksflyy · 3 months
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" Peeta blushes beet red and stammers out. "Because... because ...she came here with me." "
FIRST TIME READING THE HUNGER GAMES AND I SLAMMED MY BOOK SHUT IN MATH CLASS
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mzannthropy · 3 months
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How about, instead of Sam Claflin playing Finnick's dad in a prequel, he plays older Finnick in a sequel, living happily with Annie and their son (played by that same young actor you guys fancast as 14yo Finnick). Suzanne massively blundered by killing him in the books and the films didn't correct this, but there's still a chance: they could just say that the story told in the original trilogy was wrong. This could also be a good way to show what the rest of characters got up to, like Johanna, Gale, Effie etc.
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ambrozjas · 2 months
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louis-xiv-was-gay · 4 months
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you know what i think i like the death game genre so much because it’s finals weeks right now and consuming so much death game related media gives me the opportunity to think about my final projects and finals and go “you know what? it could be worse”
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criminaldelusions · 5 months
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someone needs to write a hunger games au saw fic with all the best ships pls and ty
just spent 2 hours making saw XI in that one hunger games simulation instead of doing my coursework 🙌🙌🙌
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todaysawtrap · 5 months
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Todays saw trap is this picture of Josh Hutcherson suspended on a chain above a pit of teenage girls. If they manage to retrieve the photo before you, you will be dropped into the pit and torn to shreds.
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hepbaestus · 5 months
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Thoughts on The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes (2023) NO SPOILERS
Holy shit.
What a film.
Bearing in mind that I've not read the book fully just yet.
The line right at the end though?
Overall it made my younger, Hunger Games obsessed mind so happy.
Overall score: 8/10
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thesweetnessofspring · 8 months
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In your opinion, please rate thg movie series with 1-5 scale.
(1 = I hate it, 3=neutral, 5 = I love it.)
1.The Hunger Games :
Things that you like :
Things that you don't like :
2.Cathing Fire :
Things that you like :
Things that you don't like :
3.Mockingjay part 1 :
Things that you like :
Things that you don't like :
4.Mockingjay part 2 :
Things that you like :
Things that you don't like :
Thank you 😊
@curiousnonny
So honestly I think I've seen each of the movies like...twice for Mockingjay 1 and 2 and three times for THG and CF. The movies are basically an opportunity to have gifs displaying events in the book more than movies for me. But here we go:
The Hunger Games: 2.5. I like the opening with the interview with Seneca Crane and then transitioning to Prim's screams. I overall like the casting--they should have gone for POC Seam characters, but Woody and Jen are at least good in their parts and Gale could have been played by a cardboard cutout for all I care about him (which is basically what Liam Hemsworth was). I do like the Crane and Snow peeks. Dislike: Shaky cam. Terrible, nonsensical bread scene. Cutting out Madge. The gruesomeness of their injuries being sanitized. Cutting down Everlark. Peeta lost his cheekiness and endearing qualities (not Josh's fault, it's the script/direction). The cave scene is disappointing. Get Gale out of my face during the Everlark kiss please. Taking out how desperate Katniss was to save Peeta and reducing her to rebelling and him to being an idiot in love was AGH. The ending is also super rushed. And cutting out Peeta being an amputee!!!
Catching Fire: 3.75. I love this movie from the Reaping onward. There are little things I'd change, like Peeta giving Katniss the pearl after the beach kiss so he'd recognize she was still planning on dying for him. But again, good casting for new parts, good expansion with Plutarch/Snow, they kept up the tension and shot the action really well. Dislike: Too much Everthorne (SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE KISSED HIM BEFORE GOING TO THE QUELL AGHHHH). Softening Gale too much (having him save a woman from a whipping instead of being caught poaching, reducing the fight he had with Katniss and his pettiness about Peeta and Haymitch to him just wanting to fight against the Capitol). Not even referencing Haymitch's games was a bummer. And a repeat of Peeta not being an amputee in the Games. This is definitely the strongest out of all of them.
Mockingjay Part 1: 3.25. I like for the movie that they replaced Fulvia with Effie. Jen and Josh are at their acting peak in this movie. Snow taunting Katniss during the rescue and the quote "It's the things we love most that destroy us." Dislike: Once again things are too sanitized. Cutting out the prep team being abused by 13. Also too much Everthorne. They needed to add more rifts between them as it was in the book.
Mockingjay Part 2: 2.5. It's shot well. Um. Idk, it follows the plot of the book so for me that's always an automatic 2 points at least. Donald Sutherland shined in this one as Snow. Dislike: This is when things being sanitized bothers me the most. Katniss should be absolutely DESTROYED at the end of the war, as should Peeta. They screwed up Everlark post-war. Katniss returning from hunting when she first sees Peeta instead of emerging from the worst of her depression and PTSD and grief was a misstep, as well as Everlark not sharing even a kiss post-war. The filmmakers were just cowards when it came to Everlark.
Personally I'm still advocating for a THG animated series. The movies had a lot they were trying to cram in for a movie runtime and were limited in terms of timeline. Maybe if TBOSAS does well Hollywood will come to return to an established property.
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