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#Velma 2023
BRO! HOW!?
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geekgirles · 1 year
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Thinking about how the only way a sex-related joke in a Scooby-Doo adult show wouldn't be juvenile and lazy is if the gang (adults, please) were investigating the case, heard some noises, and, thinking it's the monster, went to see what's going on, only to find two of their suspects getting freaky with each other, which would ultimately give them alibis, and I can't decide which would be funnier:
Should Velma cover Shaggy and Scooby's eyes while Daphne covers Fred's (despite all of them being, y'know, adults in an adult show), or Scooby covering Shaggy's while everyone else looks on, disturbed.
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cool-cactus123 · 1 year
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You know the Velma show truly fucked up when
Tumblr, a place where the cheesiest of media (specially horror) is revered including scooby doo and are probably the biggest scholars of the franchise, hates the new show with a passion
The creator of the show turned out to be a TERF
Mystery Incorporated aka the kids show is more mature than the "adult" show
Major media outlets and youtubers keep slamming it
Ppl finally learned about the concept of "hey if i know i wont like this maybe i shouldnt support it" and more ppl are embracing piracy
And yet the show is #1 most watched on HBO Max rn and probably will be marked as a success and get more seasons, all while good shows get ignored or cancelled beacuse bastardizations of beloved IPs make more money
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Look Scooby Doo as a franchise slays in part bc of how fluid it is in terms of premise and structure despite the initial concept being balls-to-the-wall 1960s niche BUT any iteration of Scooby Doo where the gang look down on/ talk down to each other bc of their respective differences just doesn’t Get It and should be expunged from canon imo… like, first of all that’s kind of the point- they all have a role to play in the group they all have their own strengths and blind spots they all bring something different to the table which is what makes them so ruthlessly efficient as a collective entity! And second, they weren’t thrown together by circumstance- they’re all very different people brought together by a shared passion, sure, but they all CHOSE to live out of a van with three other people and a bigass dog driving from town to town cross-examining the locals bc they all like each other!! They’re literally living the dream of every tight-knit teen friend group, where they all get to live together and hang out everyday with their shared weird pet doing their shared weird hobby enjoying the highs of low-stakes drama and unlimited resources. THAT is why the franchise has had such long-term staying power and that is what some of the modern iterations are missing. THAT is why Scooby Doo FUCKS- because of FRIENDSHIP and GHOSTS
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if you're an hbo max subscriber and you're trying your best not to hatewatch velma, please just watch scooby doo: mystery incorporated instead. it's on the same platform and it's a much better use of your time.
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while we’re all brainstorming ideas for how ‘velma’ could have been a good ‘edgier and more mature modern take on scooby-doo’, i have an idea!
the mystery gang are given more 21st century redesigns. no more bell bottoms, some of them start wearing sneakers, shaggy wears a baggy hoodie, stuff like that.
they still have their usual color palettes and individual styles (shaggy’s clothes are baggy and comfortable, daphne is stylish and fashionable, etc), but they dress more like present-day highschool students. but, obviously, no designs are too detailed that they’re hard to animate and their designs shouldn’t date the show by being too specific to the trends of the 2020’s.
but, in one episode, crystal cove high has a “60’s themed” school dance, and the mystery gang attends in their original outfits!! maybe some extra 1960’s flair could be added just for fun, too. and the episode could have other references to the og series as well. the episode could have other 60’s references and easter eggs scattered throughout the episode.
later in the episode the gang has a classic benny hill theme chase with the villian, and, when it stops, scooby says “reja ru!” (deja vu). then fred, being a himbo, leans over to daphne and says “since when does scooby speak italian?”. daphne naturally gives him a “???” look, but before anyone can react to what fred or scooby said, the trap goes off and the bad guy is caught. episode continues from there.
there’s so much potential with the mystery gang. it sucks that velma (2023) hates its source material so much.
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eileenguy · 1 year
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also, why are we so obsessed with adapting children's media to make it more "adult"? why does everything need a gritty reboot? do we really have such little respect for entertainment and art geared towards children that we HAVE to make it darker and edgier and more palatable to adults? like. that's literally Scooby-Doo. it's a show for kids. and most comic books were for kids too! like that man calls himself Batman! he has a car called The Bat-mobile! just admit that u think children's media is entertaining and well made!
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greenyandlazy · 1 year
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If they wanted to make a mature Scooby-Doo series literally all they had to do was show how four teenagers and a Great Dane survive travelling and living in a van while doing their usual mystery solving shenanigans.
I’m talking showing scenes of something bumping the van in the middle of the night while they’re sleeping shoulder to shoulder under a single blanket covering everyone. Scooby tumbles across the four of them and insists it was something outside, not him chasing a rabbit in his sleep.
In the mornings the guys wash and dress on one side of the Mystery Machine and the girls on the other. They shout theories over the van, occasionally getting side-lined by debating who’s setting up the gas cooker to make breakfast.
While Fred or Shaggy drives Daphne tests Velma with questions from textbooks so she can stay up to date on schoolwork. Fred always claims they’re students from a nearby city on a road-trip for a school project whenever they’re pulled over by the cops.
Each time they get paid for solving a mystery they stock up on non-perishable food that can be stored in the van (including Scooby Snacks of course!). Then they make a budget plan for stretching their money, fuel and supplies long enough to get to their next paid mystery.
Sex and drugs can be an underlining thing, but it doesn’t need to be a cheap source of humour. While they’re lounging in the back of the van Shaggy could be shown casually rolling a blunt while trying to convince everyone they shouldn’t venture into that abandoned office building the mayor insists is closed for repairs. Fred and Daphne sometimes insist that Shaggy, Scooby, and Velma go search for leads for a few hours while they’d stay at the van and “talk over some trap plans”.
On top of that, if they wanted to go dark mature they could add in backstories of the kids having troubled home lives, hence why there’s no concern for them being essentially homeless and dropping out of school. Also an explanation on why their parents haven’t sicced cops on them to bring them home.
Seriously, in the Scooby-Doo universe this is what constitutes being “mature and a deconstruction” on the typical premise. Not some edgy, holier-than-thou teens wearing Mystery Inc face-paint cracking flat jokes that are only relevant for this specific period in time.
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spoupysoupyy · 1 year
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continuing to indulge in scooby doo mystery inc fanart because i have no self control
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since this post constantly gets traction, thought id edit it to mention i dont use this blog or handle anymore! if you’re interested in my art and would like to support me, go over to @cavity-collector!
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0th3rw0rldl1n3ss · 1 year
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So I have a dormant scooby doo hyperfixation (that comes back now and then) and since the new Velma show is trending rn I feel the urge to tell everyone that in the Mystery Incorporated series Fred is canonically autistic with a special interest in making traps and I never see anyone mention this. It was confirmed in a video that’ll be linked at the bottom of this post.
But yeah, aside from all the other problems with the new Velma show (disclaimer: I haven’t seen the show yet but have seen some previews and have heard things about it that have given me very low hopes for how the show will be) one of the biggest icks for me so far is making Fred into a shallow and arrogant asshole popular rich boy stereotype instead of going the Mystery Inc route and making him a classic himbo and autistic who’s obsessed with building traps.
Autistic Fred Jones is the best version of Fred Jones. I love that he displays autistic characteristics without being a lazy one dimensional stereotype of autism. In the show, from what I remember (I need to give it a rewatch), he has a clear special interest in building traps to the point that it defines his life and affects his relationships, he struggles a lot with interpersonal relationships, indirect communication and social signals (especially when it comes to being oblivious to Daphne’s romantic signals, and the issues this causes in their relationship). But he’s not one dimensional, in fact he has more emotional complexity in this series than in any other rendition of Scooby Doo, in my opinion, and even though he’s autistic he’s still a conventionally attractive man and a central character who is desired by one of the main, attractive female leads in the show, which I almost NEVER see.
This Reddit post goes a bit more into the specifics of his autistic traits, for anyone interested.
Here’s the video I mentioned:
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This post is about Fred, but I also wanted to mention that I have a lot of love for the Mystery Inc creators deliberately writing Velma as a lesbian who was struggling with coming to terms with her sexuality throughout the show, and giving her a canonical sapphic love interest, in a time where having a queer character in the main cast of a kids show was unheard of.
Anyway, I recommend watching Mystery Inc if you don’t want to watch the new Velma show but still want to watch something that hits the Scooby Doo nostalgia spot. It still has the fun of classic Scooby Doo that speaks to my inner child but it’s also dark and complex enough to appeal to teen and adult audiences (as well as younger audiences) without over the top edginess.
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awakefor48hours · 1 year
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At this point, I’m more inclined to believe that Goncharov is a real movie than Velma being a real TV show
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geekgirles · 1 year
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luna--dragon · 1 year
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Don't you just love it when a kids show from the 2010s can explain talking animals in a unique and serious way, but the adult spin off premiering this year didn't even try?
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the-irreverend · 1 year
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For those of you who are (rightfully) livid about Velma for how it disservices representation in animation (especially with Mindy Kaling being a TERF)...
...here's something to make you feel a little better.
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Because ultimately, these are the kinds of shows that need/deserve attention. Not the self-serving, toxic, and hypocritical slactivism you see going on at HBO Max.
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corvus-woodfordi · 1 year
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The internet is alright :)
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