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class1akids · 6 months
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The full list of every Todoroki family panel:
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That's it. That's the list. 7 panels. Not a single double spread or even a full-page image. Actually, there is no panel where all their faces are visible.
I don't think there is any other prominent group / dynamic in the manga that got an endgame of nothing but low-quality, tiny panels without a piece of art emphasizing them as a unit. It's just really weird... That after more than a decade, the family is finally together, and that moment after the long build-up doesn't get a single "impact" art. A framing that shows that something big happened here.
And if this is about Shouto "becoming who he is meant to be" why is there no double spread or a big page art to emphasize it?
I'm not sure if that last panel is supposed to be Enji's "father" moment - but it's certainly not framed like it. You need a magnifying glass to even see what's happening, in a chapter otherwise full of gorgeous art.
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Okay one thing i really don't get it. Izuku was reckless to an extreme where he didn't take himself into account and many times including the villain hunt arc we have seen him not care about himself. Him not taking himself is due to his lack of self worth and for some reason All might is to be blamed for this ?. His lack of self worth was due to the bullying and being called worthless for 11yrs by Bakugou. All might is also blamed for Izuku pushing away his friends which i cannot agree. Izuku has a caring heart and he cares too much about his friends. It doesn't mean he looks down on them like Shoji asked. The kid has fear of putting some one in danger due to the effects of the war as well as watching Nagant explode which in-turn made him more desperate to find Shigi and AFO to a point where he didn't eat or sleep and all might is supposed to be blamed? All might has been looking out for his well being and telling him non stop to not be like him since the Kamino fight with AFO. All might was the one who suggested for Izuku's protection in UA in CH306. constantly prepared food for Izuku. i will say Izuku was stubborn to listen to all might in the villain arc but his stubbornness is also due to his underlying fear and Trauma of losing people he cares about which is clouding his judgement. I really can't stand Horikoshi's canon and how many blame All might for this.
Hori needed someone he could lay the blaime for izukus self destroying tendencies and zero self worth one and choose all might for that, because blaiming bakugou for it, would course an abroar in the fandom.
Everyone who pays at least a little bit attention should be able to realize that the reason izuku feels that way about himself, is because of the 10 years of abuse he had to endure and was told on a daily basis that he is worthless and useless trash. And izuku still believes that! He STILL calls himself by the insults bakugou used to call him! That alone makes clear that izuku is NOT over his past abuse by bakugous hands. He still suffers from trauma, he wasnt able to heal from!
Bakugou layed the blaime for izukus non existent self worth on all might, because at the time, he couldnt tell his classmates "oh by the way, the reason why deku gives a fuck about himself is because I used to call him worthless, useless trash and similar things on a daily basis since kindergarten and I also liked to use my quirk on him, destroyed his property and also liked to use him as my punching bag."
Pretty sure the rest of the class wouldnt have reacted very well to that. Maybe they even would have told him to stay in ua, while they search for izuku. I also think bakugou doesnt want to face the fact that HE is responsible for izukus fucked up mental wellbeing. In the latest two chapters we found out that bakugou wants to move on from the past. He believes with the apology everything is forgiven now and he has a white vest again! But its not that easy. Its not in the abusers right to decide, when its time to move on. Thats only the victims priority, espicially if the victim hasnt moved on yet and wasnt able to reflect over the bad things that happened to them and so far izuku still hasnt said anything about the apology nor accepted it! I really hope hori does all that with a purpose in mind and means bakugou will be called out later and izuku will be able to heal! And to be able to heal, bakugou needs to stay away from him.
All might is not at fault for the way izuku treats himself. Like you said, all might did everything he could to help izuku and was worried sick about him! Izuku was ALWAYS selfless. Already as a small child he did everything he could to help others, even standing up to his bullys to protect an other boy from bakugou and his minions. The self destroying and zero self worth came LATER, after the bulling startet! And izuku cant have copied that from all might, because back then they didnt know each other on a personal level. When izuku and all might met each other for the first time, izukus feeling of self worth was already long gone!
Bakugou simply needed someone to lay his own wrong doings on, because he doesnt want to face backlash from the people around him that could destroy his reputation and his chance to become the nr 1 hero. Nobody wants a nr 1 hero, who told an other person to kill himself! Bakugou is not dumb enough, not to get that. He is actually quite manipulative. It was all might he layed the blaime one, because to his luck neither all might nor izuku were there to contradict him and he choose a moment to apologize, when izuku was not in the right mind to process what bakugou was telling him.
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I love how Endevour, Overhaul and AFO are the most despised people in this fandom because we can forgive a lot of shit, but NEVER child abuse
I mean, for me is the fact that these three men know exactly what they were doing and choose to consciously do every step of the way. In Overhaul and AFO's they are not even sorry. If they were in the same situation, they'd do it again and again.
AFO has zero excuse for anything he has done because his crime are not even human anymore. His the only case along with Doc Ujiko's where I defend the right to just kill them both. And being completely honest the more I read about bnha and the more I think about it, the more sick I feel.
Overhaul deserves his human rights? Yes. He is a piece of trash but I can't push aside the possibility of him getting better. STILL, (and this is very important) I'd like to point out that this man, after doing all he did to Eri, hasn't yet show remorse. When Deku faced him out of jail, Overhaul could only think about his boss. Overhaul's priority is himself, no one else. He did not care for his boss, did not care for any member of his mafia and did not care for Eri. We're talking about a man cruel enough to take apart Eri and rebuild her each time. A kid. He did that several times. And he doesn't regret it.
Endeavor has in his favor that Horikoshi loves him that he st least feels some regret and shame for what he did. He's really lucky he has privileges, because of course he has. I mean, compared with Overhaul who was introduced to a cycle of violence when being a poor child on the streets, (and Overhaul faced many years of living in a violent environment, because that's a mafia), Endeavor had the privilege of a good life, of the possibility to become rich and famous and important, of having a family, etc.
But don't get mistaken. Endeavor knew very well all he was doing and he traumatized all his kids and his wife and many many people not because he was ignorant. He saw all the damage he was making in the process of reaching his selfish dream and he still did it. Now that he's older and he's facing his worst dreams, now is the only time he tries to correct himself. He knew the type of marriage he was having with Rei was problamtic. He knew the risk for his children, he even saw it in Touya. And he did it again more three times. Even after Touya died. He was beating his wife, beating his kids, physically and mentally abusing them. Endeavor didn't stop there. He kept doing it, so much that we see how Endeavor treats Shouto all along the manga. He, a hero supposedly devoted to protect and safe people. Even after the War arc, his reaction to seeing Rei was "omg Rei are you better?" like bitch, bitch, if it was for you that woman would be rotten in a hospital. You broke her and threw her away.
He deserves living? Yes, living in shame. Dying has always been the easy way out in this cases. He deserves to live and face the consequences of his actions, he deserves to be responsible for once in his life and fix his mess. Even if he doesn't like it, he had four children. He can't just simply pretend that, just because he's aching (for the crimes he committed!) someone is going to arrive and tell him "everything is okay, you don't have to hurt". No, he has to hurt. Not because I say so, but because the right thing to do when you have done something wrong is feel bad about it and find a solution.
No one owns Endsvir forgiving him. Endeavor deserves to live and he deserve to be held accountable for what he did.
AFO has to face what he did to all the people he hurt, specially Tenko. Overhaul has to face what he did to Eri and to Nighteye, Endeavor has to face his own family and the world.
And you know why people never forgets child abusers or animal abusers? Because it takes something really awful inside to hurt an animal or a child. And if the person knew what they were doing and if they do it many times, it speaks volumes of how rotten they are.
This is not fighting a child. This is grooming and manipulating and seeing that child every single day of your life and choosing to hurt them. This is around 15 years of AFO hurting Tomura (and around 200 years of hurting the world), around 5 years of Overhaul hurting Eri and around 25 years of Endeavor abusing his family. In a domestic environment. Every day, I repeat.
The logic answer is to hate them. People can like them or whatever, that's their problem, but people who hate this three should never have to suffer backlash for hating them. Never.
You can understand what they did and why, but you don't have to sympathize with them.
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ignitification · 3 years
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I'm glad we could handle this respectfully.
Two questions
Do you think Endeavor will Die in the Future,Like Dabi Kills him?or will he stay alive throughout?
Also I feel like and hope him and Rei Should get a divorce.She should'nt be with someone who's hurt her Physically and psychologically.I think them not being married would be very healthy for them
And In response,People can change but I haven't seen the villians wanna change since they believe they're in the right.you have to want change in order to change.Shigaraki,Toga,Dabi and All for one have shown no signs of wanting to change.this is all my opinion but like They honestly don't wanna change since they believe,due to their pasts,that they're doing the right thing.Dabi has Murdered 30 innocent people,Toga is literally a wanted Serial Who drinks blood like Juice,and Shigaraki Murdered many heroes and ordered his Minions to destroy everything.
Imo,that doesn't look like wanting to change.
I feel like they work well as villians So Horikoshi probably won't redeem them But again I can't predict the future so I'm getting ahead of myself 😅sorry for wasting your time
It was just my two sense
Plus we need to fix hero society but they're doing it in a cruel and hypocritical way
I'd like to address the three points you made in three different sections:
Endeavour probability of staying alive (of which I already talked here, so it will be short)
Rei's involvment with Todoroki Enji
The Three Villains (the three mains) not wanting to change (on which I already hinted at here and here)
Trigger warning: mentions of suicide; violence; self-harm.
1.) Endeavour’s course of life (and action)
To be honest, I think this is the easiest point to address and I’ll refrain from going over and over again the same point. My answer, as before, is no. I do not think that Enji is going to die (refer to the linked before post for a more in depth analysis of why). However, on the question whether Enji Todoroki will still be alive at the end of the manga, I think the answer might be different. I utterly think that where the manga is going so far foreshadows a lot of pain to come. And I’ll let Horikoshi do whatever he plans, but my spider-senses tell me that even if he does survive, Endeavour is unlikely to get a happy ending (or at least a canonically happy one). He will be hold responsible of his actions, and that is the most important thing. As long as he gets on the right path, everything could happen. Especially considering the events of Ch. 300, which might be interpreted as a first step on regaining the real narrative of what went down (and which might be even more cruel than we think) , so this means we are getting at the root of the problem. 
2.) Rei’s involvement in Enji’s life
This, on the contrary, is the most delicate point of the post. Rei is introduced as a 'weak' and heavily mentally abused character. She is confined in a hospital and she seems to be closed in her own world so much she does not notice time passing and stares out of the window trying to make sense of the world. Which, on one hand, I think is very fitting for her, but at the same time I am included to think that this is the furthest thing from what Rei' character is supposed to be.
Rei Todoroki is a victim. But she is not weak. She made her mistakes (of which she is aware of and feels guilty about, but that's for another time because Shouto's scar - mental and facial - is a whole lot deal to unpack) and she had way too much time to think. Shouto never held it against her and now, he, together with Natsuo and Fuyumi helped her to regain the confidence she knows Enji took from her. He closed her off in a hospital to prederve her health, but instead he just took off years of her life from her children and viceversa.
However, I am not sure whether Enji and Rei are still married or separated or divorced or whatever. It seems like on paper they are still together, but there is a rift in their relationship.
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I mean, look at this panel: Rei is behind her children, looking at Endeavour like the douchebag he is, and telling him promptly that, this, is not about him and that however he might feel, he is not the victim or the one who needs to be forgiven.
I, personally, have never thought much of her character, besides of her being sick, in hospital and trying not to relapse so hard.
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The first time we see her, she looks lifeless. They looks listless. And I can't stress that enough, it is not that she did not try to fight it. But accepting that the trauma happened in the first time is a stress for her mental health. But instead of getting worse, Shouto and her family's presence revitalizes her.
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Which beings me to the point made in the last panel. She knows that in his shallow way, Endeavour tried to tell her that he is still there, and while he does not want to impose his presence, he will still wait for her when she wants to.
Funny thing, is that we discover is that she does not want him back. She is done with everything that happened and she is ready to take the reigns of her life back. And in order to do that she needs to wash their dirty landry. And she does not care of how this might affect Endeavour, but instead she wants justice, truth and not tears and excuses.
Rei ia going to fight to have her way. Be it out of Endeavour 's life or inside the life of Touya, time only will tell.
And finally point 3.) The Big Three Villains' on change and saviours
I am very hard trying to get through to everyone out there while I say that change is something that comes to you regardless of whether you want it or not. Shigaraki, Dabi and Toga do not recognise that they might be able to change, and that they might be saved. In their minds, fairly, they do not have to change in order to be eligible for salvation. I already stressed this in my other answers, they should not change in order for them to ‘deserve’ being saved. Maybe they do not even want it. But if the chance presents itself, of them being offered a hand, would they dare to take it? Probably not. And this is not because they are happily wasting their time to kill and fuck around, no. It’s because it’s a mechanism ingrained into their minds: Dabi escaped home after he abused and neglected, Shigaraki accidentally killed his family and then was left to himself, and Toga was deemed weird and creepy and just cast aside as trash. Do you see a pattern here? If yes, well congratulations. It’s a quirk-based society, and since their quirks somehow became synonym to their worth, these individuals were deemed not worthy or villains from the get-go and they just choose to embrace whatever life threw at them, instead of just letting go. And let me tell you, that in their cases, letting go would mean die. They all, in some degree, suffer from auto-destructive and self-harm tendencies, which should be telling enough. And if it not, just think about why people behave this way. Why do people feel the need to destroy themselves? They do because they feel like the pain inside them feels a tiny bit lighter if they externate. Shigaraki told Izuku that as this failed society refused and never forgave him, he won’t forgive anyone in return. He does not care about his crimes because apart from those crimes he commits for a reason, he has nothing else going on. He does not have a family to go home to. He does not have a home. He does not have anything apart from the League, his memories hunting him and the eternal stigma of society labelling him as unsavable.
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So excuse me very much when I say that they do not want to change and they might be right. Nothing changed, and nothing changes now. The only hope they have to be redeemed, it’s not for the heroes to forget their crimes, and to enjoy further destruction but to understand that the only way someone can help you is if believe in them. Dabi does not think he deserves to be saved. Toga had hopes which were destroyed right after Hawks killed Twice. Shigaraki put everything on the stake because the kid never knew how to genuinely smile. Let us for a moment think what would have happened to Eri if she did not get saved. It’s not hard after all: the kids of the League are all examples of what happens then.
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It’s not because they change that they need to be saved. They need to be saved because they need to change. 
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Can we just talk about how amazing Boku No Hero Academia is?
Seriously, Horikoshi doesn't get enough credit for this. Boku No Hero is one of the BEST mnaga as of 2017 in my opinion.
AND NOTHING. NOTHING. WILL CHANGE MY MIND.
This guy is a fucking SICK. First of all, the character designs are so amazing, and of couse in a superhero themed anime it does have to be like that. But honestly it really is cool. They're all so different in unique in their own ways. You can even tell their personalities just by looking at their designs. Their hair is all so different and not like the usual 'long hair / short hair with bangs', their hair is not like other anime y'know? All the main characters and important characters (including villains) have some sort of physical feature that make them stand out. The eyes, the hair, the height, EVERYTHING MAN.
Their personalities also stand out all so well. In most animes, the main characters are usually normal and there's just gonna be 1 or 2 funny people right? Ex: There are 5 main characters, 3 of them have normal personalities and 2 of them are funny and stand out more.
All of their personalities are gold! Honestly everyone is so funny it really does give a high school vibe. Most high school anime really forget this important feature, comedy. It wouldn't feel like a normal high school if there weren't any comedy in it. The anime doesn't only focus on quirks and fights but it also focuses on shit in a normal high school like final exams and funny classrom scenes.
And there are those funny idiots too (Mina, Kirishima, Kaminari, Sero). Somehow Horikoshi has also managed to make the serious and responsible students funny (Iida & Momo). If we were to put ALL of these characters into several different animes they would certainly be best girls n boys (except Mineta because nobody likes a pervert). Horikoshi managed to do THAT. Something most mangaka artists can't do. Really, think about it. Every character is lovable (except Mineta), HELL EVEN BAKUGOU IS LOVED AND HE WAS HATED BU THE FANDOM AT FIRST.
Not only that but Horikoshi, this fuckstick, also gives screen time to the side characters. Even if it was just for a short amount of time, it was somehow meaningful and unforgettable. Take class 1-B as an example, most of them are already introduced in the manga, and they're also LOVABLE- LIKE--- FUCK YOU HORIKOSHI STOP BEING SO DAMN GOOD AT THAT.
Character development is also amazing in bnha. Midoriya, from a weak and self doubt having boy grows into a strong and confident boy. Same goes for Todoroki, he used to be a cold boy who rejected his left side and he grows up to see a change for the better and starts to show more care for people. Bakugou, from an asshole that considers himself the best grows up and acknowledges his classmates. Momo at first didn't have self confidence in her plans either. Kirishima didn't have confidence in himself.
The characters in bnha don't just grow in terms of power like most shonen anime like naruto & fairy tail. mentality and personality also change.
Not all characters are created equal, they all have their doubts and obstacles. People and even some magaka artists doubt the importance of character development. Although most characters haven't been given their time to shine yet, we can certainly say that these have great character developmemt and I can't wait to see other character developmemt in the future.
Boku no hero characters are not overpowered and the character list isn't too overcrowded. Even if it was overcrowded, Im fucking sure that fuckstick Horikoshi will somehow manage to find a way to make each character memorable and special. Anyways, BNHA is realistic. Even the strongest characters have their weaknesses. Bakugou, thE LORD EXPLOSION MURDER that has an amazing quirk also has weakness to it. He has a power limit where if he uses too much his muscles will rip apart. NOW THIS IS REALISTIC. Unlike fairy tail's Natsu, his fire never seems to finish unless he's hungry for fire or something.
The school life it has is also realistic. There are first, second and third years. And with that being said, it's most likely the anime will have many many episodes and chapters for that. I can't wait to see what obstacles Horikoshi has planned for them.
Bnha plot is amazing and special too. Horikoshi done shit that most anime mangakas don't. Horikoshi is aware of normal shit happening in the anime, and he does something different too. Bnha might seem overrated but it's overrated for a good reason, you can't deny that it has good plot.
This smartass, Kohei Horikoshi. Does things that have rarely been done in the anime industry. It's a shonen but it's really different than most Shonen animes. Horikoshi makes an anime based off of western superheroes and adds a twist of japanese superheroes in it as well. Horikoshi has made an anime with a superhero based plot where the main characters learn do grow and develop as well as facing a whole bunch of painful shit. Unlike the normal shonen anime where it's jist teenagers fighting for a better future or doing something with unbelievable overpowered physical strength. It stands out. Horikoshi has made an anime with and amazing potential to be one of the most iconic animes in history. I'm very excited to see what he does in the future and what he has planned for bnha. I am very grateful for new and very original anime with such amazing plot, animation, voice acting, OST and most importantly character development.
When all chapters and episodes of Boku No hero end, I will certainly miss it.
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(inspired by the most recent chapter) Mirio's S/O worrying about him because they can sense something's off but he can't tell them... etc?
(Nothing better happen to him the next few chapters or words are gonna be exchanged with Horikoshi)
Toogata Mirio: 
There was something wrong. 
You knew that since he’d started interning under Nighteye, there would be times where he couldn’t tell you things because they’d be confidential. That had never bothered you because for the most part, the stories about villains were made public; there was nothing to inquire about. But recently, there’s been a problem that was clearly eating away at your boyfriends happiness. You desperately wanted to ask, but you knew he couldn’t tell you. 
“…Mirio?” You’ve been trying to get his attention for the last ten minutes but he’s clearly lost in his thoughts; you finally snap your fingers in front of his face which makes him jump, but brings him back to reality. 
“What’s wrong?” He tilts his head but you can tell he’s only half there. The situation is growing more frustrating the more neglected you feel, but you didn’t want your own selfishness to get in the way of Mirio’s hero career. He couldn’t tell you what was wrong, so what could you do to give yourself piece of mind?
“Can you just… promise me one thing?” This manages to grab his full attention and his brows furrow, perhaps now realizing the effects his silences were having on you. 
He couldn’t get his mind off his failure, or Eri. He had taken the best steps he knew to keep himself and Midoriya safe, and saved Nighteye’s investigation from going completely downhill. He knew he had thought on his feet and done what was right in his own eyes, but why did he still feel guilty? They had plans to save Eri, that’s why the meeting had been called to begin with, but… He was more anxious for the day of the plan than he liked to admit. He had never quite felt so down about something like this before, but perhaps it had to do with Eri’s age and what was being done to her- it was atrocious. 
But that didn’t give him the right to completely shut you out, did it? 
“What do you need?” All he could do now to make up for his actions was listen to what you needed him to promise. He didn’t want to let you down, you were too important to him. 
“Promise that whatever you have planned for this week, this month, or anytime beyond… You’ll be careful. Don’t do anything stupid to save someone just because you feel compelled to!” Your arms are crossed and he can see the days of frustration that came from dealing with him being completely closed off was coming to a head. “You’re an amazing hero, Mirio, but please just keep yourself safe.” 
“I’ll try-” He can see the look on your face change from angry to sad, your eyes now downcast. There was no quick way for him to fix the situation, there was no way for him to just make you not worry about the days to come because despite not knowing any details, you had sensed the seriousness of the situation. “All I can say is that I’ll try, I can’t lie to you.” 
“I know...” He reaches over to grab both of your hands, bringing your knuckles up to his lips to kiss them. 
“I’ll come home to you time and time again, until you’re completely sick of me!” 
He musters up a bright smile, knowing that despite the conflict happening inside of him, he could always find a smile for you. 
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