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#i definitely made many a mistake which is why im not really like. Angry at her because i understand and i’ve had to change a lot and grow a
odetolovers · 4 months
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it is absolutely wild the way i’ve allowed people to treat me
#every year i write an end of year recap i’ve been doing it since 2019#this year So much happened but one of the big things was breaking up with my ex#and it genuinely blows my mind how badly i was treated and the fact i stayed as long as i did#year and a half of clownery when i knew after 4 months i’d been sold a lie 😭#i feel so bad for past me because girlie you didnt deserve that!! nobody does!!!#it’s helped me sm in my current relationship because i know what it’s like to be the collateral for someone’s self hatred#it’s motivated me to heal and develop self esteem so i dont do that to my wonderful partner#they have really shown me what love is and let me tell you! it’s nothing i experienced with my ex!#mind blowing mind boggling i am never letting Anyone treat me that appallingly ever again#literally crazy i wish her a lot of healing and growth cos goddamn how are you terrified of being a bad person yet treat people like you#treated me. no wayyyy no way#i so believe in that thing of what people are most scared of they’re most likely to do#goddamn! 2023 man. wild time#valentina talks#i definitely made many a mistake which is why im not really like. Angry at her because i understand and i’ve had to change a lot and grow a#lot too. i think everyone just is perpetually making mistakes and growing and that’s okay. but it doesn’t mean the people you hurt need to#forgive you or think your actions were okay#just yeesh. i’m glad it’s over and i moved on
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“I can admit she made mistakes im not willing to tolerate anyone saying she didn't do it out of love”
This is why the sister relationship doesn’t work for me. Kate, even her actions inadvertently hurt Edwina, was trying to protect her from getting hurt the entire time. The same isn’t true for Edwina. She didn’t mind when Anthony hurt Kate with his behavior at the races. Edwina was ok with Kate being hurt and pushed aside.
Edwina obviously had every reason to be hurt and angry after the wedding when she saw the Kanthony of it all, but instead of going after Anthony for creating the mess, she blames Kate for having feels (that Kate did not act on), she blames Kate for putting her in the position she is in (not sure if she meant raising her to marry into the aristocracy or specifically marrying Anthony), she blamed Kate for her not knowing who she is, she blamed Kate for how hurt she was in ep7 and acted like Kate was purposely hurting her…it goes on and on and even when Kate recovers and they have their convo, Edwina is still getting her questions asked and then telling Kate what’s what and even though she encourages Kate to go after Anthony in the end, there is no acknowledgment on Edwina’s part that she was being unfair to Kate, that everything Kate had done for the past 8 years was sacrifice herself for Edwina’s sake and that she had broken her own heart rather than hurt Edwina (when she asked Anthony to marry Edwina anyway) and that made the relationship feel horribly unbalanced.
Edwina never seems as motivated by love for Kate because she kept getting Kate to do things to get her what she wanted (Anthony) even though she knew Kate disapproved. So she was always defying Kate a little and never prioritizing her unlike Kate who always prioritized Edwina. If Edwina had thanked Kate or realized that Kate has given up her future to raise Edwina it could have been ok but they didn’t do that which is why it felt imbalanced and biased against Kate imo
Yes, exactly! Kate made mistakes but she always did what she thought was best for her sister. She was trying to protect her. She time after time tried to gently let Edwina know that Anthony was not what he was pretending to be and definitely not what she wanted. Because 1) she didn't want to hurt Edwina by explicitly telling her that he didn't return her feelings and 2) with how Edwina found ways to excuse his behavior and convince herself that he was into her, i doubt she would have believed Kate. She really needed that reality check, it was just unfortunate that it had to happen in front of so many people and at such a big occasion.
But Edwina had to know that the half sister comment was going to sting. Especially because Kate is her sister and therefore she should know her and realize that Kate feels like she needs to be useful to others in order to be loved. She did it on purpose because she wanted to hurt her. I'm not saying she is a bad person, she was angry and she was hurt and at that moment she definitely wanted to hurt the person she blamed for her unrequired love. But... why didn't she apologize??? Why were we robbed of seeing these two sisters talk over what had happened?
They could be leaving that for season two but I don't know. As you said, the love is very one sided. Edwina is pretty selfish, which isn't uncommon at that age but still, and I'm not expert in sibling relationships but I would have liked a scene in which Edwina fiercely protects Kate or feels enraged for something that happens to her.
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coexiising · 3 years
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west coast - anakin skywalker
SUMMARY ◆ you and anakin have just never gotten along and there seemed to be no way to get you guys to cooperate. hate sex basically. 
WARNING(S) ◆ smut, degradation, some bad names, rough sex, but there’s consent because consent is sexy, cursing,  choking, unprotected sex, fingering, anakin skywalker is a tease and a bitch, witty banter,  i pretend to understand the force and probably make up my own rules, unedited
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THE EVENING LIGHT OF THE SUN SPILLED INTO THE LARGE HALL OF THE JEDI TEMPLE, BLANKETING EVERYTHING INSIDE WITH A SHEER COAT OF GOLDEN RAYS. coruscant was always so beautiful in the evenings, the way that the cars sped past each building with a low hum and the rush of traffic. it was a sound that you have grown to welcome these days, especially because it had been many years since you’ve lived here. the capital was beautiful, bustling with life and opportunities. 
your elbow was on the table, palm pressed against your cheek as you leaned against it lazily, poking at the food on your plate with a fork in your other hand. obi-wan was mouthing off in front of you, not that you were really listening anyways. you were too focused on trying to stay awake listening to this mission that he was assigned to bring both you and anakin on in a weeks time. though his speech was pretty much worthless since the other padawan was no where to be found. neither of you had seen him for a couple hours. 
oh well, you thought to yourself. it’s not like you missed him anyways. besides, he was probably with padme or getting in trouble somewhere like he was always doing. 
anakin and you . . . well, it was a complicated relationship. you had been assigned to work with master obi-wan after your master died on a freak accident, and ever since then, you were forced to work with anakin skywalker. you two didn’t get along, you never did. you were even surprised that obi-wan put up with it, but he wanted to train both of you. to say that you missed your life before you had to talk to anakin every day would be the understatement of the year, you longed for the days where you didn’t have to be in the same room as him and watch as everyone fawned over the chosen one. god, even your thoughts were going to make you throw up. it was better to bask in this non-anakin-ness the most you could before he came waltzing into the hall. 
unfortunately, right as you stopped thinking about him, anakin walked into the hall towards the food and would most likely make his way over and sit at your shared table with your master. you felt a groan go past your lips and looked down at your food, stabbing your starfruit and popping it into your mouth. 
a chuckle came from obi-wan in front of you. “you can at least act like you like him you know, might be easier to deal with it that way.” you shrugged, shaking your head and looking up to face your master. “I mean, saying that as your friend not your master.” 
“you’re one to talk, what did you call him yesterday? oh that’s right, insolent. if memory serves you said that to him pretty confidently,” you said. 
“well, yes, but I'm allowed to say those things,” obi-wan countered, popping up one of his expressive eyebrows as he looked at you. 
you stifled out a weak laugh, “I'm not going to give him the satisfaction of me liking him.” and that was the truth, there is no way that you weren’t going to do what almost everyone does here: allow him to get away with the things that he does. sometimes your master calls him out on things - but it was incredibly rare. 
anakin walked over in his usual fashion, which you deemed as strutting, but others didn’t see the humor in it. maybe it was just because every time he even was in the same room as you, you felt the need to insult something about him, you had to keep him grounded, right?
“good evening, y/n.”
“oh, it was,” you said to him, glancing in his direction and then instantly going back to your food. from the corner of your eye you could see as his face feigned hurt, then he immediately went to talking with obi-wan about the mission that your master had previously been briefing with you about. it was something about some trouble on the outer rim, separatists spotted trying to negotiate with the rulers of a planet that was vital for the republic to maintain peace with. a typical mission, one that you’ve been on one too many times. but maybe something exciting would happen, you never knew. 
dinner was, for the most part, uneventful. the only thing that happened was anakin threatening to throw his starfruit at you because you rolled your eyes at one of his comments, which didn’t end up happening because obi-wan gave him that look and a stern ‘anakin.’ 
for the rest of the night you retired to your rooms, telling the two you would meet them in the morning. 
you sat at the edge of your bed, kicking off your shoes and stretching your arms up. you set your comms down on the small nightstand you had and got dressed in something more comfortable for sleeping. the sun was fully down now, and the only thing that lit up your room was the tall lamp in the corner of your room and the distant lights of other buildings through your windows. 
as you slipped into bed under the covers, you allowed your mind to wander. first, to the mission, where you silently went over the details in your head to make sure you had them all memorized. you knew for certain that anakin didn’t, which could possibly give you a leg up in the future. and the more you pondered, the more they landed on anakin.
it was strange, thinking of him. typically you would be cringing at anything that included anything to do with anakin skywalker, but this time you allowed your mind to expand instead of bringing up the protective barriers like you always did. the calming effect of letting the force just make its way through every neuron and crevice of your mind was almost enough to lull you to sleep. 
that was until you heard a whisper, just the faintest, tiniest little sound that you were almost uncertain that you had even heard anything at all. 
your eyes stayed closed, again letting the force do what it wanted in your mind and waiting to see if it happened again. there was a presence there, just on the outer barriers of your mind. there was silence, complete and utter silence and you were about to call it a night when-
you’re thinking about me? 
you jolted up to sit, eyes snapping open and your head getting dizzy from the sudden shift in position. it was anakin’s voice, clear as day in your mind, that was what you were hearing. how could you be so stupid? it was like the force was trying to push that connection. and now that it was established, you knew that you would have to put up more barriers in your mind in order to keep him out. 
and the worst thing was that he was still there. you could feel it. you put your hands on either side of your head and closed your eyes, reaching him and saying, 
i was not. 
it was the weakest lie you had ever made in your life. 
you’re such a liar, anakin chided. you could practically feel his smirk. just admit it. 
you groaned to yourself, feeling a bead of sweat drop down your face from the focus. goodnight, anakin, you said to him and then immediately cut off the connection. 
now you were wide awake, you were sure that there was no way you could get any sleep after that. you weren’t even angry at yourself for doing that, but more embarrassed that your thoughts connected you to anakin - because you were thinking about him. you knew there was no way you were getting out of this tomorrow. 
you busied yourself at your desk with some books you had previously gotten from the archives, trying your best to basically bore yourself to the brink of sleep. and just as you thought it was beginning to work, you heard a knock on your door. glancing at the clock, you saw that it was a little bit past midnight. who the hell was at your door at this hour?
for a moment you stilled, thinking that perhaps it was a mistake and they would leave then you could finally try and sleep, but there was again another knock a few moments later. you finally stood up and made your way to the door, opening it and being greeted by none other than anakin skywalker. he was dressed in his comfort clothes and hair messy, like he had been awake for way too long. 
he didn’t give you any time to say anything, instead pushing his way past you into your rooms. your eyes widened and you took a peek outside into the halls to make sure that no one saw that. luckily, the halls were dead. closing your door and turning the lock, you faced him and stood there deadpanned, waiting for some kind of explanation. 
“well, don’t act all happy to see me,” he said sarcastically. 
you laughed. “im not. what are you doing here? do you understand what could happen if someone sees you and me in my bedroom alone?” there would be rumors spreading like wildfire, something that you definitely didn’t need to be confronted by the council about this. you hated to admit that you knew the exact reason he was here - because of your mini conversation through the force. but that still begged the question as to why he cared so much about it in the first place. 
anakin rolled his eyes, running a hand through his hair. you took a second to look him over, seeing that the black shirt he was wearing was sheer enough for you to know what he was hiding under it. you shuddered, coming to your senses again and frowning. “you were thinking about me, and i think i deserve an explanation,” anakin told you, shrugging his large shoulders and cocking an eyebrow up. “you were thinking so loud.” 
“I wasn’t trying to, i was trying to go to sleep.” you countered. 
“you think of me while trying to sleep?”
damn. wrong thing to say. and now he was giving you a look, one that you’ve never seen before from him. his eyes were almost dark, filled with lust. you felt like your fucking legs were going to give out at the look that he was giving you. it was enough to make your face heat up and clear your throat, not having anything else to say, there really wasn’t anything to defend yourself with. 
and it all happened so fast. one second you were both standing there, staring into each other’s eyes, and the next you both were walking towards each other and colliding your lips onto each others. the kiss was hot and searing, instantly making your head go dizzy at the feeling. his lips were soft, albeit a little harsh as his tongue forced its way into your mouth and prodded against your own. anakin’s hand came to grip your jaw, the other on the small of your back. 
you attempted to grab onto him, get your hands on him as much as his were on you, but he didn’t let you, using the hand on your back to pull you closer to your bed. you were still kissing, lips starting to swell with the agressiveness of the kiss. 
you still hated him, you had to keep telling yourself that, even though just by kissing he was making you feel so good. no attachments were to be made, this was purely just acting on normal human instincts, right? 
soon enough the backs of your legs were hitting the edge of your bed, anakin pushed you down onto the bed like it was nothing and you were silly putty molding in his hands. he fell on top of you, instead of kissing you on the lips, he went for your neck, one of his hands came and grabbed a handful of your hair and yanked it down, exposing your neck for him. 
and he made sure that you would have to somehow cover all the marks he was making, because his teeth seemed to graze over every inch of your skin and lightly nip anywhere he wanted. and you felt dirty because you let him. you would let him do whatever he wanted to do to you. 
anakin pulled away from you for a moment to pull his shirt off, discarding it to the floor and helping you to do the same with your shirt. you took a moment to look him over, seeing that his body was practically sculpted and personally handcrafted by the maker themselves, basically knocking the breath out of you. he noticed and you didn’t even care, instead of cringing at his smirk, you found it incredibly hot. 
your hands came to his torso, wrapping your legs around his waist as his mouth began kissing along your chest. you pressed your hips up against him, trying to get friction against your already wet core. sadly, it wasn’t enough and you were left with whatever he decided to give you. 
“anakin, please,” you whispered out towards him, looking down to watch him slip one of your nipples into his mouth, your mouth hung wide open. he came off of it with a ‘pop’ and tilted his head, waiting for you to finish whatever you were going to say. 
“please what?” anakin asked, going back to kissing your chest until he landed on your stomach and started painting masterpieces on your skin. 
you made the tinest sound, feeling sparks send right down below. “just touch me already,” you stated, putting your hands in his hair and giving the curles a good tug. he groaned against him, the vibrations going through your entire body. anakin came up face to face with you, pressing yet another kiss against your lips and pushing down your pants and underwear to the ground. you were now all exposed to him, while he still wore half of his outfit. you pouted at the unfairness but you knew it would get you nowhere now. 
he held his hand out in front of you and for a moment you looked at him confused. he sensed this and said blankly, “spit.” you did what he asked and spit into his hand, watching as he took that same hand and touch your clit, feeling the wetness of your spit and your own mixing together. your mouth hung open as he rubbed his fingers around, experimentally pushing the tip of his finger into you then immediately pulled it out. 
you felt yourself almost whine, needing him to give you more or you felt like you would simply die on the spot. right as you were about to say something, anakin’s other hand came and grasped onto your neck, his fingers digging into your skin and putting pressure on your throat. 
holy fuck. 
typically, you would be angry with how much control anakin skywalker had over you, but now you were just giving into it, liking that he was being rough with you. it was like a form of argument without the words and you were becoming addicted to it. he was able to make you feel so good and you were completely in his power. 
finally, as if he was putting some pity on you, one finger slipped into you, curling up and hitting a spot inside you that made you moan loudly. the hand choking you became stronger against your neck, his mouth coming to your ear and whispering, “be quiet, you don’t want anyone to hear us and have this be over too soon, do you?” he was looking for an answer. 
you shook your head, understanding that this would not be the best time to get caught by anyone else. you tried your best to keep yourself quiet as one finger pumped in you, the thumb of that same hand pressing against your clit and making your toes curl in pleasure. you could feel how hard he was against you and that made the fire in your stomach ablaze, nearing towards that edge desperately wanting some kind of release. 
as soon as you felt yourself getting higher to that point, his hand came off your throat and his hand stopped moving, your eyes opened up and looked at him, who was busy pulling down his pants and grabbing his cock with his hand. 
it didn’t take long for him to position himself at your enterance, his tip teasing you by rubbing it up and down against your slit. “is this what you want?” anakin asked you, his other hand tracing down your body and coming to grip the side of your hip. 
you nodded your head fervently. “yes, anakin, please just fuck me already,” you said to him. 
and that was all he needed before he was ramming himself into you, giving you no time to adjust, which was expected. you took the pain that came with his harsh motions, both of his hands gripping your hips with such force that you were sure that you were going to have bruises there in the morning in the shape of his hands. 
anakin pounded into you, your voice was already hoarse from his choking and you made as quiet sounds as you could. all that anger you had for each other had bubbled up onto the surface and there was only the desire left, the sickly sweet feeling that you had only dreamed about with anakin in your deepest fantasies. you could never get tired of this, perhaps you should’ve initiated this sooner, or pushed his buttons so he would take it out on you this way. 
“god, you’re so fucking tight,” anakin said in that deep, gravelly voice that basically sent you into orbit the second that it came past your lips. you were so far gone, head empty of any incoherent thought other than anakin skywalker. and he continued to move into you shamelessly, neither of you caring about anything in the world except this feeling both of you were chasing. 
you were close, you could practically feel the tidal wave starting to form inside your stomach. his pace would not let up, practically tearing into you with all the energy and stamina that he had from years of training. and anakin looked so good like this, his mouth hung open and sweat forming on that tanned brow of his. his muscles working overtime and flexing with every single movement he made. and his eyes, which were so blue like the oceans of naboo, were staring right into your own, almost like they were telling you to give everything to him. 
you were so worked up, that it only took his hand to come down and rub down against your clit, the pressure enough to push you over the edge. it was like a firework went off inside and the scream you wanted to make died in your throat, wishing that you could be as loud as you wanted. your back arched up and your hips faltered against his own, cumming around him and squeezing, earning a moan from his lips as well. you looked so good coming undone that anakin basically was just sent into fucking orbit with no trace of coming back down. 
the second you regained your composure and came down from your own orgasm, you watched as anakin hit his own, hips shifting and releasing right inside of him. you felt him fill you up to the brim, anakin falling down with his chest pressed against your own. the room smelled of sex and you wouldn’t have it any other way. 
the only thing was the sounds of your pants throughout the room, and soon enough anakin was pulling out of you. you frowned at the sudden loss of not being filled up anymore by him. just a second ago you felt like you were on fucking cloud nine and now you were crashing right down to reality at what you had done, and whom you had just done it with. 
you propped yourself up on your elbows, watching as anakin pulled his pants back up and started gathering the rest of his clothes in his hand. he was still shirtless, about to go towards the door when you said, “are you seriously going out there half naked?” 
“no one is up this late, trust me,” he said back. 
you bit the inside of your cheek. “well I don’t know about that after all the noises coming from here.” 
“that wasn’t me making all the moans,” anakin says in such a casual way you stare daggers back at him. he stifles out a laugh and then turns, leaving the room and closing the door behind him. you can hear his footsteps recede from the door and you are left here alone, thinking about what the hell you had just done. 
once you regained your composure and felt like you could walk, you stood up on your wobbly feet and made your way to your small mirror. the second you got there, you gasped at your appearance in the mirror. hair all messed up, marks all along your neck along with bruises from his hands, and the bruises on your hips. and to top it all off, you could feel what he left in you trickling down your thigh. 
that may have just been the best sex of your life. but you still hated anakin skywalker . . . 
. . . right?
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darlington-v · 3 years
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A Sympathetic Character is Better than a Morally Just Character
part of this was drafted from a month or so ago but i’ve been thinking about it so i’m going to finish it now and post it on this blog instead of the og ranboocore blog haha! 
i would really wish this fandom would understand though that, 
a morally good, righteous, upstanding character =/= a GOOD character like yes. they are morally good. but that does not inherently make them the better written, more satisfying character. like i enjoy characters like dream, ranboo, technoblade, wilbur, quackity, and sam (my favorites especially are dream and ranboo) because they have depth. they are multifaceted and have internal conflict and clear character flaws. 
sam is actually a good example of a character being righteous and that being a flaw. BECAUSE of his values, tommy died on his hands. because he adheres to laws, he has internal conflict as the world has shown him that maybe he was wrong. maybe it is not good to be so righteous. 
i see a lot of posts like condemning characters for their actions and i get so utterly confused because thats the point. like yes. they did the bad thing. yes. you’re right that is bad. but like... can you analyze it? can you break down the character motivations, that characters reasoning behind it, is it relatable? is it sympathetic? is it compelling to you? 
if it’s not why are you here. because these ARE sympathetic characters. they make mistakes and it is clear that the mistakes they made ARE INDEED MISTAKES. because that is human. and we can relate.  “dreams not sympathetic, he’s evil” immmmm SORRY are you telling me that if you were repeatedly told that you were an awful person, that you were toxic, that you were the bad one EVEN THOUGH YOU WEREN’T, you wouldn’t get frustrated? you wouldn’t get upset and maybe act drastically? you wouldn’t lash out? 
“i wouldn’t manipulate someone and blow up a country.” no shit! i wouldn’t either! but i would get angry! i would get mad and upset and i might say something mean or out of line or like make a mistake and start a fight. the beauty of writing is that we can exaggerate things to extremes. this raises the stakes and makes the actions so much more meaningful, but because we at our core can relate to similar actions and the line of logic, it makes it moving. it makes it sympathetic and relatable. like? no obviously, i don’t condone abuse or like manipulating someone. but i can understand and relate to the idea of “the ends justify the means.” which is the type of character dream is. in his head, the ends will justify the means. 
so i need you to understand that a SYMPATHETIC character is better than JUST a MORALLY RIGHT character. ESPECIALLY in the dream smp. this is the narrative where EVERYONE is their OWN MAIN CHARACTER. and the main character NEEDS to be sympathetic. the villain doesn’t necessarily, though a sympathetic villain is always so much better than a flat, 2D villain, but the protagonist NEEDS to be sympathetic. and by sympathetic i mean like... can i follow their line of logic? can i understand this character? like maybe i personally wouldn’t do the things they’ve done, but can i understand why they’ve done what they have? am i rooting for this character because i can relate and sympathize with them?
this is SO important in writing. it GIVES characters depth. it makes them feel real, and not just like... a 2d caricature of something. thats part of WHY i love ranboos character and WHY he is very obviously a fan favorite. ranboo, hands down, undoubtedly, PUTS THE WORK IN. his character is deeply flawed and for that extremely relatable. ranboo makes SURE that there is subtext there for you to understand it. the way his character rationalizes things is such a good testament to him providing subtext, but it’s definitely not the ONLY way he provides subtext. he doesn’t TELL you that his character has anxiety (in lore i mean out of lore he’s said it plenty of times) BUT HE SHOWS THAT. 
his character catastrophizes, his character is pessimistic at times, his character is worried pretty frequently, he displays signs of paranoia among like... so many other characteristics that are clear results of anxiety or just SHOW his anxiety. he doesn’t just SAY that flat out, but he shows it in the way he talks, the way he thinks, his actions. like YES. yes ranboo IS a hypocrite but you can understand WHY he is a hypocrite. it’s because, ironically enough, his character VALUES being morally correct. ranboos morals are important to himself and he CANNOT conceptualize being the morally wrong one. and that’s SHOWN in the way he rationalizes his acts of hypocrisy. he excuses himself because he doesn’t want to be the one thats wrong, and it’s clear that that is a character flaw of his. 
it’s intended that you pick up that ranboo is wrong, but he is excusing himself and trying to rationalize that he’s not the wrong one because thats one of his character motivations. whenever ranboo monologues and its him rationalizing, it is clearly him CONVINCING himself that he hasn’t done anything bad. he KNOWS he has done the wrong thing, but he DOESN’T WANT TO ADMIT IT.
his character HAS depth. his character feels REAL.
there are plenty of characters you can break down in this way, and i know people are aware of it because i’ve seen posts about how tubbo provides subtext through largely his actions rather than monologuing (which is a pretty good way to get across inner thought in this medium). i think that ranboo’s character is amongst the ones display depth the best because he very clearly does dedicate himself to his character and his narrative. he provides subtext and small mannerisms and goes through a monologue fairly realistically i feel where he’s working himself through a situation.
there’s also sam, who i’m VERY excited for more lore from, because he’s had a fall from grace. this is such an extraordinarily human thing that i think so many people can relate to and i think it makes him such a driving character. like no, i’m not gonna torture someone, but because i can and have fallen from grace before, i’m inherently intrigued by his story. how did he get here? and what was he thinking and where did the lines begin to break down for him? also he’s just kinda ahhah hah hah whus poppin babeyyyyyy but thats irrelevant
other characters i can think of off the top of my head are quackity, technoblade, wilbur, and tubbo but im sure there are other streamers im missing simply because i don’t watch them enough? i feel like niki’s character probably has depth it’s just that i don’t follow her character arc enough, so i wouldn’t actually know.
either way though, these characters all have depth because they’ve dealt with their issues in interesting, pressing, and ultimately human ways to their barest degrees because like i said the beauty of writing is that we can exaggerate these feelings to their extremes, but... ultimately we still experience these feelings.
like no i wouldnt do any of the shit these characters have done, but i can follow their line of reasoning and i can relate deeply to all of these issues.
and i think that’s what we really should be discussing rather than morality on the matter of like “good character” or “bad character” because i see that happen so frequently. like, in enjoying a character you’re not justifying their actions and if someone assumes that then... they should really go back to english class. that’s not how human nature works, and it’s not how literature works. 
a good character is someone i can relate to and understand. including a villain. 
TLDR; a sympathetic character is far more enjoyable and better than a morally just character. sympathetic characters are undeniably good characters because they are inherently characters you root for or simply just enjoy more. morally just characters, while they can be sympathetic, aren’t inherently good because being morally just isn’t inherently relatable. a good character is one that has depth.
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tooweirdforyou · 4 years
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Hiii! Can I request headcanons for Doffy, Mihawk and Crocodile accidentally hurt their s/o. Female s/o please. Thankyou sm🌸
Accidentally Hurting Their F!S/O - HCs
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A/N : you didn’t specify physically or mentally hurting their S/O, so I’ll randomize it.
I don’t know if you can tell, but I’m pretty excited I get to write for Mihawk. I love this man so much, and I hope I did his character justice! 😭
Summary : Doflamingo, Crocodile and Mihawk accidentally hurting their female significant other.
Doflamingo
This man is rather sadistic, mostly because of what he’s been through, yes. But if he grew up another way, I believe he’d be a pretty decent person. Someone who doesnt want to destroy the whole world-
Doflamingo cares a lot of his family, ( don’t you dare tell me otherwise ), and considering that you are dating THE Doflamingo, you’re pretty high up in the ranks yourself. He’ll go to many lengths to protect you, im sure.
But because he has a reputation to uphold and he is pretty sadistic and an ass, he’ll say some pretty harsh things and tease you and sometimes make fun of you as a joke so much, it’s not cute.
But it was to be expected dating Doflamingo. Doffy did have a good side to him too, he was pretty sweet under everything.
Though, everything he says can be a bit too much to handle.
Already feeling insecure that you’ve somehow ended up with a warlord and a king of a country, when Doffy could have anyone else,
You actually felt your heart shatter into pieces when Doffy carelessly spoke to you, with his shit-eating grin.
You wouldn’t say anything, not even plastering the forced small smile that you’d always wear. You’ll just brush it off and turn away, walking off and went to go talk to Baby 5.
Doflamingo would be taken back, expecting you to fight back or anything for his entertainment. He thought it was amusing and kinda cute seeing you get feisty when he teased you, but seeing your hidden hurt expression and walking off made him know he messed up.
He’ll be annoyed. Annoyed he didn’t get entertainment but even more annoyed that he caused you pain, for his own amusement especially.
He’ll bring up his strings and start to control you from where you were, bringing you back to him forcefully, which you’ll start to squirm and struggle in your hold.
When he sees you as he pulls you towards him, his grin would be gone and a tight thin line would be plastered instead.
He’ll bring you closer until you’re right in front of him, and before you could say anything after he releases his hold on you, he’ll grab you and pull you in to his chest silently.
He’ll force you to sit there all day, without moving as he placed his arms around your torso, your head laying in his shoulder.
“I’m sorry.”
It was a simple two words, but even then, just hearing it made you relax and ease into his chest more as you snuggled into his hold with a small smile.
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Mihawk
Mihawk is blunt and straightforward, so there are some things that he’ll say outwardly, without sugar-coating it.
So you’re pretty used to it. You’d have to be, if you even ended up dating Mihawk in the first place.
Sure, the swordsman is romantic, but he’s blunt most of the time.
It would be when you return from a trip, having left to pickup some things, personal and essential items for the two of you.
You were pretty eager and excited when you came back, wanting to share the many things you’ve come across and seen while you were out.
However, Mihawk didn’t share that feeling. He had been sitting in his castle alone for a while, enjoying the peace, despite having feeling a bit lonely without you.
So when you come back, chatting and talking pretty excitedly, with your eyes lit up, hearing Mihawk’s blunt words absolutely destroyed your joy.
You’d immediately shut up and murmur an apology to him. Feeling pretty embarrassed and humiliated, you’d leave the room quickly and keep distance away from Mihawk.
He didn’t realize how much he truly missed your presence until he saw you walking away, a pained expression across your face. He’ll sigh at that, rubbing his temple a bit and wondered why he felt so stressed.
You were just like Shanks in terms of easy excitement, and although he often got annoyed, he never snapped at him like he had did with you. Was it because he actually did miss you?
He’ll see that you left behind one of the bags you’ve brought from your trip and see a particular wine that he enjoyed, knowing it was expensive and that you went the trip to get it for him. He’ll frown in distaste towards himself for hurting you and go find you.
He’ll find you in bed, under the covers with your eyes shut. Knowing you weren’t actually asleep, he’ll go over and crawl into bed beside you, wrapping an arm around you and kissing the back of your head lightly.
“I apologize for my words, [Name]. It wasn’t my intention to hurt you. I missed you.”
It was simple yet held so much in it, you turned to face him and wrap your arms around his chest, accepting his apology and just wanted to cuddle with him right then and there, to which he obliged and pet your hair as you fell asleep in his arms.
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Crocodile
Crocodile is also a bit of a blunt person, but he has a heart for sure.
Crocodile, as a lover, will spoil you to no end. He’s a loving man, and he most definitely cherishes things he values most, which you are the most valuable thing he has.
He’ll do anything to protect you and keep you from harm. He never has any intentions on hurting you unless he has a real reason to.
And so, when Crocodile realizes the mistake he just made when he sees you staring wide-eyed at him, on the ground and grasping your shoulder, he becomes shocked himself
and immediately, whatever was angering him just seconds prior is forgotten.
Crocodile would be frustrated with both him and you for a quick second before rushing to your side.
Seeing you flinch would break his heart but he’d understand.
“[Name]... Are you alright?”
He wouldn’t even remember what he was so angry about. He was just stressed, to the point that he had hurt you, for just trying to comfort him.
He’ll slowly reach out to you, a bit hesitant because he knows he’s hurt you and you’ll remember this for sure.
But seeing that you aren’t pulling away, he’ll gently pick up you bridal style and bring you to the bedroom, setting you on the bed softly.
“Show me your shoulder.”
And to the best of his ability, he’ll check your injury and patch it up, it’ll be sloppy but A for effort.
When he’s done, he’ll pull you down to lay on his chest and whisper his apologies to you once more and promises to buy you the world one day.
Although your shoulder was still in pain, you knew he didn’t mean to hurt you and you’ll curl yourself into his arms, closing your eyes and relaxing with a soft smile.
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As much as I love Crocodile, he’s a lot harder to write than I thought. Especially when it’s so late and I’m exhausted as hell.
Regardless, I really hope you all enjoyed this. :) I definitely enjoyed writing this lol it’s so cute.
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spnshameblog · 3 years
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My issue is not people reasonably criticizing Jensen's decision but rather outright canceling him completely for it. Should he have said no? Definitely and I wish he had. Does saying yes mean he's suddenly a racist asshole despite everything else that shows he's anything but? No, it doesn't. It means he made a stupid decision, that's it. He's human. He screws up. Criticize him fairly and let him learn and improve from his mistakes. Canceling him does nothing.
Tbh i dont think ive seen anyone cancelling him? Most people who made (rightfully) angry posts about his decision seem to still be fans of his, which is probably why the disappointment hits harder.
The thing about cancelling is that it doesnt exist the way people think it does. There isnt one council of cancellation who looks at a celebs mistakes and then officially declares them cancelled. What most ppl call cancelling is actually just people explaining why they cant support someone and why maybe other people shouldnt either. Sometimes ppl agree and follow suit, most of the time they dont and instead choose to defend the celebrity.
In jensens case i havent really seen either? I have seen people who were really upset about his decision to support a project like wanker and the people defending his decision and i have seen people trying to offer up meager explanations as to why he might have felt pressured bla bla. I havent seen anyone actually say "you cant support anything he does ever again" and i havent seen people say "he has done nothing wrong, dont you dare criticise him" but maybe we just follow different people?
I dont particularly like the defeatist "well what did you expect, hes a white guy from a cw show, of course hes ok with racism" because what is that even supposed to mean? That you shouldnt expect better of people? That you shouldnt waste your time calling out ppl for shit behaviour?
Its up to you if you still want to engage with his content or of you feel like a line too many has been crossed and youre gonna have to expect that people have a different opinion on this, which might make them not want to interact withyou anymore, thats just how it is. You cant control the degree of how much a celebs actions upset someone.
Im very annoyed at his decision to contribute to a harmful project like walker, but i still dont think hes a thoroughly shitty person. And i also think he deserves to know that people are disappointed, you know?
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reawritesthings · 4 years
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Stand By You | Rafe Cameron
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you agree to a family dinner with the cameron’s, when ward boasts about his daughter and not your boyfriend, you finally stand up for rafe.
requested: by @drewstarkey!! ( this was originally something she requested for the 100 ways, but i decided to do it into an imagine)
a/n: im not the best writer but i just thought this could be a cute little imagine for you all. I take requests if you any of you are interested, but i understand if you don’t sksks.
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You always avoided attending the glamorous Cameron family dinners, and Rafe completely agreed. From the stories he told you, it was definitely not something you could sit through. You could barely sit through a whole forty five minutes of keeping up with the Kardashians; Wheezie’s favourite.
Being Rafe’s girlfriend was a lot of work. It definitely wasn’t a walk in the park. A lot has happened regarding Rafe’s weed addiction and Ward almost kicking him out, he needed you more than ever.
“Babe..” He hummed whilst playing with your hair.
You looked up at him, staring into his blue eyes.
“I know you always say no to this but since you love me very mu-” You rolled your eyes, sitting up as you knew what exactly he was asking you. “Yes, I’ll go to dinner, which is tonight I believe?” You laughed pointing towards the fridge with recipes that Rose had out.
“How did you even know i would ask you that?” Rafe questioned.
“Rose made me clean the cutlery before you decided to wake up. She even made me be her advisor on what dress to wear. Plus, judging by the fridge full of recipes, it wasn’t a hard guess.”
Rafe was amazed, he didn’t even think he knew your family as well as you did his.
“God, that just turned me on.” Rafe smirked, connecting your face with his but you pulled away.
“It’s almost three and you haven’t changed. I need to ask Sarah for an outfit and make a good first impression.” You chuckled, getting up from the sofa stretching out your limbs before the mayhem begins.
“I’ll see you soon, baby. If you need me to help you with the zipper, let me know.” You winked, turning away to find Wheezie shaking her head at the two of you.
“Gross.” She groaned opening the fridge.
“Don’t you have to get ready?” You asked her, placing one hand on your hip.
“Don’t you have a zipper to fix?” She imitated you, even placing her hand on her own hip.
“Wheezie.” Rafe spoke, walking up to her.
“Fine, I’ll go get ready.” Wheezie moaned as she dragged herself away from the kitchen.
“About the zipper….” Rafe whispered but you walked away too, leaving a very frustrated Rafe to fend for himself.
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Getting ready for an event like this wasn’t your favourite. It wasn’t you, you didn’t like putting on makeup or dresses just to cover up the drama that goes on inside these walls. Rose peeking her head through the spare bedroom every five minutes wasn’t exactly helping you either.
The creamy fabric of the silk dress fit nicely on your shoulders, hugging your body like a tight embrace. The colour of the dress matched your eyes, and as you turned over to check the back you noticed your boyfriend standing there, mouth open.
“How’s it goi- you look beautiful.” Rafe swallowed his pride as he noticed how your figure stood out in the dress.
Rafe never really tried to make you blush this much, but it was his raspy voice that always got your cheeks burning. Planting a small kiss on your cheek, you turned around giving one back on his lips.
“And you clean up nicely.” You chuckled as Rafe fiddled with his sleeves.
“Are you nervous?” You asked, shoving him off you as you tried to find your earrings.
Rafe nodded. He didn’t exactly have the best relationship with his father right now, and hosting a family dinner certainly wasn’t exactly the greatest redemption. But, that’s the Cameron’s.
“Dad still isn’t getting off my case about me smoking. And that I ruined some stupid business contract.” Rafe huffed, searching for something to press his anger on.
“Baby, breathe. Just ignore your dad for the night. There’s going to be like, over a hundred people here and I’m sure he will be too busy boasting about Sarah. We can hang back with Wheezie…” You chuckled as you saw her figure enter the room.
“No you won’t. I have a reputation to hand out. Plus, Mum wants us down in exactly thirty seconds or we won’t get dessert.” Wheezie threatened, looking over at Rafe who knew that was a legitimate reason to go downstairs.
“Why do we have to go downstairs? It’s not even 7?” You questioned as Rafe pushed you out of the room, closing the door behind you.
“After this, I’ll need a drink.” Rafe whispered in your ear and you rolled your eyes at how dramatic he could be.
“Listen up, Cameron’s and Y/N. Best behaviour, best manners and always be elegant. Y/N since it’s your first dinner with the family, a few little rules.” Rose cleared her throat, taking out the list she hid in her dress.
You looked at Rafe with a look, even Wheezie shook her head too.
“No kissing, no flirting, try not to start any drama and when eating, you start outwards and go in.” Rose sternly looked at you, she wasn’t playing and neither was Ward who was examining the whiskey.
“Who had some whiskey?” Ward spoke, looking directly at the both of you.
“Who do you think?” Rafe spoke, rolling his eyes as he was the only one who would drink at this time.
“How many times have I told you not to fucking drink? Especially my own whiskey. It’s like you want me to kick you out.” Ward roared causing Wheezie to cling onto your hand, which you gripped firmly.
As Rafe was about to defend himself, you opened your mouth immediately regretting.
“Stop being so hard on him, he just had a little sip and I had the rest. You never scream at Sarah when she’s drinking, and she’s what? 16?”
Rafe and Sarah's eyes widened, so did Rose’s, but Wheezie gave you a thumbs up.
“Watch your mouth, girl. You don’t speak to me like that, one more word out of your mouth you aren’t welcome here.” Ward threatened looking at Rafe to make sure he got the same warning.
The awkwardness had now invaded the room, you didn’t even know what to say, but the touch of Rafe’s hand squeezing around yours made you breathe a sigh of relief.
“Let’s just get this dinner over and done with.” Rose stuttered, walking out of the room to finish setting up the dining table.
As everyone made their way out, you and Rafe were left behind. When the door shut, you turned to Rafe but was taken back by his lips attacking yours.
You quickly pulled away, wanting to apologise for what had happened. “I’m so sorry, I know I shouldn’t have done that but he makes me so angry.”
Rafe shook his head making sure the strand of your hair was tucked nicely behind your ear.
“It’s okay, but baby.. try not to start something tonight. No matter how much you want to strangle him, let’s get through this dinner and I can finally rip that dress off you.” He smirked opening the door, leading you to a dinner party you won’t forget.
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It wasn’t too bad, there were a lot of people but you were quite happy staying at the back with Wheezie whilst Rafe was mingling with his family.
“How come you aren’t talking to your cousins?” You asked Wheezie who was tapping away on her phone which you took out of her hand.
“Because they are lame and I’d rather hang back here with you, than be with them.” Wheezie whined looking up at you but you just responded with a laugh.
You and Wheezie had an odd friendship, she would often refer to you as Buzz Lightyear and she was Woody.
“I’m flattered.. but, your mother has been staring at us for exactly five minutes. Let’s mingle with the commoners. How about later, we steal the cake and watch a movie?” You negotiated with her, knowing cake always ends up winning.
Wheezie nodded holding your hand as she directed you towards her cousins, not letting go of your hand.
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“This is delicious, Rose. How did you make these potatoes so cheesy?” One of the aunties said, taking a sip of wine.
“Cheese?” Wheezie laughed looking at Rose who gave her a glare.
“Funny one you got there.” The aunty mimicked, but Rose just gripped onto her fork hoping no one would see.
“Did I tell you that Sarah is now applying at the top schools in NYC? She even has a scholarship.” Ward beamed at his daughter who frankly couldn’t care less, but for her mother she just smiled.
Before anyone could congratulate Sarah, Ward again, had something to say. “Also, Wheezie has gotten straight A’s in all her subjects. How did I get so lucky?”
Every word that Ward spat out, made the flames inside you burn. Every time he boasted about his daughters and ignoring Rafe, made you want to add more fuel to the fire. Your fist began to clench and Rafe quickly noticed, placing his palm over top but that didn’t stop your rage.
“I almost forg-“ Ward was taken back by the sound of your chair creaking back made everyone’s attention divert to your body.
“Anything you like to say, Y/N?” Ward faked a smile looking over at Rafe.
“As matter of fact, I do. You do realise that you have a son too? A son that tries so hard to make you see him as a human being and not a disgrace. He has worked so hard to get you to value him like you value Sarah. He’s made mistakes but he is human, he may have gotten into smoking weed, but you can’t talk, you’ve done worse. Rafe is just as clever as Sarah and Wheezie are, you may not see it and don’t believe in him, but I do!” You shouted as you noticed a lot of crumbs on your plate.
Ward was boiling, his veins we’re slowly appearing and that was never a good sign. You looked down at Rafe, but he didn’t meet your gaze.
“Rafe, take your girlfriend out of here now.” Ward sneered through his teeth as he grabbed onto the plate, gripping on tight.
Rafe nodded, pulling you harshly away from the table, escorting you towards the garden.
He was mad, you could tell from the eye contact and how tight he was grabbing your wrist. “Rafe, I’m sor-“
He cut you off, “I don’t want to hear it, Y/N. Why couldn’t you just leave it alone? Why couldn’t you just let him praise my sisters and leave it at that? He’s going to kill me now.” Rafe signed, pulling his hair as he didn’t know what to do in this situation.
“How can you stand there and just let him degrade you like that? He was acting as if you weren't even there? You are just as clever as they are. I hate when he treats you like this Rafe, I fucking hate it.” You screamed kicking the swan floaty away from the pool.
“I know, baby. But, you just have to get used to it.. I have.”
“I hate how he treats you… you deserve a better father.” You whispered not wanting Rafe to see the tears that boiled up in your eyes.
Rafe shook his head, lifting your chin up as he pushed away the hair from your face. “I love you, and I’m fucking glad to call you my girlfriend.” He smiled, softly kissing your lips as you slowly moved back to make more space between you both.
The kiss deepened, his hands were firmly tight on your bum as he lightly gripped it causing you to chuckle.
“Your family is inside.. they can see.” You whispered through the kiss but Rafe didn’t care, he was already embarrassed enough. As Rafe took a step closer to you, cupping your cheeks, your shoes got caught in the flare of your dress causing you to fall into the pool.
“Rafe!!” You screamed swimming up to the surface, looking at him whilst he was laughing his head off.
“Are you okay baby?” Rafe laughed, ripping off his suit jacket and jumping in causing the water to splash against the window.
“We are in so much trouble….” You giggled, looking over at the window as you saw someone pull the door open.
Wheezie.
“Can I join?” she asked looking at the two of you.
Rafe nodded, holding out his arms so Wheezie could jump in
“I hope you never break up with her, Rafe. She’s the best sister I ever had.” Wheezie complimented you, as she pulled you into a tight hug.
“What about Sarah?”
“Eh, she’s alright.” Wheezie scoffed, embracing you into a bigger hug that Rafe suddenly ruined.
You may have lost all privileges from the Cameron’s household but in this moment, you didn’t even care. You were happy that you stood up for your boyfriend, and extremely happy that Wheezie finally accepted you. It was definitely a night to remember, and you couldn’t wait until the next one.
If you get invited…
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diegoshargrieves · 3 years
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luther was most definitely an asshole in season one. undisputed. his actions were wrong, though they stemmed from a place of good intention. everything from locking his sister in a cage to his self obsession about the moon and constantly antagonizing his siblings because of childhood prejudices- it was all wrong and he should be held accountable for his mistakes.
however, even after season two released im still seeing a lot of luther hate around these parts, which is kind of ridiculous considering he went through extreme character development in the new episodes, and i think ive figured out why. y’all cant romanticize his trauma like you can with klaus, vanya, five, and all your other fan favorites. 
you pin someone who was groomed by his abuser from birth to view himself as, literally, number one, and stay loyal and devoted and, above all, obedient to him no matter what as an asshole and the worst of all the siblings. like allison didn’t rumour her fame and family and career into being? like vanya didn’t reveal her siblings’ trauma to the world in the form of her book, put it on a pedestal, even, to highlight her own abuse and neglect because it was a different brand from theirs? like five isn’t a literal trained assassin who had no problem with the idea of taking the lives of innocent people to prevent doomsday and, more importantly, mass murder? like diego wasn’t also bitter and angry and messed up due to his upbringing, like he didn’t take it out unfairly on other people and treat his siblings like shit on a whim? like klaus wasn’t an addict who was shown to have taken advantage of and leeched off of his siblings for food and for money for more drugs, like he wasn’t selfish to the point where he left eudora patch to die in the hotel without so much as a warning that there were not one but two trained assassins lurking around? (i have many thoughts about the idolization of klaus in the fandom but that’s a whole other post). like ben didn’t possess his brother’s body and tried to have sex with a girl he liked without explicit consent from klaus, like he wasn’t bitter himself at various points throughout the two seasons?
but of course, let’s just blame luther for everything that went wrong in the show because he’s the only one out of the seven who is capable of doing anything wrong ever.
what do you expect someone who was put into that circumstance to do? he obviously wasn’t aware of the trauma klaus and vanya went through surrounding the mausoleum, because it’s not like r*ginald went around with a megaphone announcing how he locked his kids away for days on end to ‘help’ them hone their powers. he was ignorant of the extent of the abuse his siblings faced because he was r*ginald’s favorite, and made to believe his whole purpose in life was the umbrella academy. that’s why after everyone left, he stayed. that’s why he felt like he was indebted to their father for saving his life (which is a whole other brand of fucked up when you think about it). that’s why he went to the moon without question- because he believed it was for a reason. 
and when all his trauma unravels at the end, when he finally finds out that his whole life was a lie and what he thought was his purpose in life really amounted to nothing more than a lonely childhood, an old domino mask, and thousands of reports stashed underneath the floorboard of his father’s study? he’s ridiculed even then, because he somehow deserved it and for some reason is less deserving of sympathy than the rest of his siblings.
well, i say for some reason, but the reason is because luther-antis can’t romanticize his trauma and the abuse he suffered. and they’re the same people who’ll automatically turn around and fawn over klaus, the uwu soft disaster gay baby who deserved better.
i’m not justifying his actions. they can’t be justified. but let’s not be hypocritical when it comes to how we analyze characters who are victims of abuse and dealing with trauma as a result of it, hm? 
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As a fellow Kakashi lover, I’m curious if you feel that Kakashi is pretty misunderstood by a lot of fans? I’ve seen people say that he should’ve defected the village, and that he’s messed up for hiding his trauma. (Which he could’ve been more open about, yes, but I’m not sure that he even knew how to go about discussing it at the time) He could’ve easily left the village, but instead he wanted to change things and make society better by teaching teamwork, and to value everyone’s life by putting yourselves before the mission. He never lost hope for the future of shinobi and knew that it could be better. He definitely could’ve been more open about his past, but he’s always been more of a quiet and reserved kid (even before the trauma lol) Idk, I feel like a lot of people overlook his backstory when talking about him!
Istg every time i meet another person who shares this view i just wanna give em the biggest bear hug and im boutta go OFF
Remember back in their childhood when gai was being bullied by these men one time about his dad and kakashi dropped in and whacked them? He always had the conscience to stand up for what was wrong and be there for his comrades but sakumo's death was so traumatic for him, it forced him to change his own beliefs. He became a machine and he believed that carrying out missions as instructed was his only purpose in life, irrespective of what HE felt
because GOD YES he's so so misunderstood by fans half the time and I've seen so many people throw around the term bootlicker for him just cause he didn't throw away everything and leave the village and and join some criminal cult and like no?? The fact that he stayed only shows his strength of character if anything. He could've easily left if he wanted to, he would've made a very sexy villain too but he chose to be hopeful and he chose to remain good and that shows strength of character because it took him a fkn lot to stay in the right path and continue working for the village that took away his father from him.
And it had nothing to do with him being a bootlicker because kakashi is very much his own person and he has his own morals and ideals and he's not a stickler for rules until he believes in them. Yes he did become awfully rule-abiding after Sakumo's death for a while because he saw what listening to your heart instead of adhering to the rules did to his father. He saw the extent to which a previously respected shinobi was villified that he had to resort to taking his own life
And kakashi was angry at sakumo because he was only a small boy who had just lost his father. He couldn't help resent sakumo bc he kept thinking that if only sakumo had just stuck to the rules, he would've still been there with him. that if only he had just done what the village had asked him to, he wouldn't have lost the only family he had. Those were very valid thoughts for a child whose father had just committed suicide but kakashi did know in his heart that his dad was right and that's why he wanted to teach those very principles to the younger generations later on. That's why he told sakumo when they met in the limbo that he was proud of him. But back then when sakumo had just died, kakashi was a grieving child who was angry and dealing with so much pain inside him that he decided he'd never do what cost his father his life. Because he saw right in front of his eyes what happened if you broke the rules and so he did what his 5 year old mind thought he should. But even then, that was never who he was at heart. He never believed in mindlessly abiding by rules and that's what made him consider obito's words and ultimately go back to save rin. Obito's words did not change him, they only helped him see what was already in his heart.
But when obito said those words to him, it resonated with what he truly believed in inside his heart. So yeah, he's no bootlicker, he was just strong willed enough to not give in to the bad things that happened to him. He didn't make an impulse decision. He didn't want to abandon his village. It was his home and despite everything, he loved his home and he valued the people around him. He didn't want to just leave it all. He wanted to stay instead to make the village better, to pass on sakumo's values to the upcoming generations so that they became good shinobi AND humans. To teach his students the power of love and friendship so that they didn't grow up to become the kind of people that had denounced his father. Kakashi didn't want to take revenge for sakumo's death because his actions were never motivated by hatred, but he ensured that his father didn't die in vain.
Leaving would've been much easier for him too,he may have almost even thought of it on nights that were extremely painful, nights when he was completely engulfed with pain and anger at the horrible unfair world but he would've never done it bc that's not him. He CHOSE to listen to the part of his heart that still saw good. Betraying the village that was his home wasn't an option for him
So yeah the fact that he stayed only shows his strength of character. his determination, his judgement, his will to change the village for the better. He refused to pass students unless they knew the value of teamwork. He was the only one who failed team after team and sent them back to academy bc no matter what, he never would've let students who didn't value their comrades become shinobi. Would a bootlicker do that? He broke into root and freed tenzo; when everyone in the village ostracized naruto and iruka had almost made up his mind to ask hiruzen to assign him another student, KAKASHI was the one who told iruka to approach Naruto with love instead. He always had a mind of his own. When team 10 wanted to get their revenge after Asuma's death, kakashi himself offered to accompany them even tho tsunade wasn't initially very enthusiastic about the idea. Would a bootlicker do that? He sneaked naruto off to meet the 4th raikage bc he understood that it was important to Naruto. Would a bootlicker do that? He always did what he thought was right
He realised his mistakes and he changed for the better. He had to raise himself and yet he managed to stay on the right track and make not just a great shinobi but also a great person of himself. He didn't want to leave his home. that was his very identity, that was his world. He wanted to change it, not abandon it. I'm sorry that is not a bootlicker. Danzo had even tried to recruit him or smth once but he'd had the judgement and sense to turn him down
As for hiding his trauma idk what to say to that i mean you can't dictate how someone deals with trauma?? Sure, his ways weren't ideal but what can you expect? He was only a kid. He lost everyone that was important to him before he was even 15 and it's not like he received any help from anybody to heal and get better. The one time he tried to approach jiraiya, he turned kakashi away saying he was putting everyone off by being sad. Ig after that he just decided to stay quiet and keep it all inside himself. The village treated him as a human weapon and he started to see himself that way too because he really didn't care for his life anymore. He suffered from survivor's guilt and he wished he'd die, he hoped one of these missions would kill him. And he was this way for many years but what matters is that he did slowly let himself open up. It took him a long time but he did. He taught his genin team but he learnt from them too. They grew on him, he loved them and cared for them. Sure they were a handful but he they were his handful and he adored them. He could gather up the courage to finally let gai in too and even be verbal about how much he meant to him. It took a long way for him to get there and it was not easy but he got there and that's what matters
SO YEAH PHEW
im sorry that was so long but i get v riled up when people shit on kakashi about these things like you're missing the point and essence of his character and i will throw hands goddamit
The fandom really does misunderstand and misinterpret kakashi v often and there are many instances where i don't agree w the majority so it's so beautiful to me when i see people who think the same way THANK YOU SM I COMPLETELY AGREE W YOU LY <3
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gracelessfighters · 4 years
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don’t feel (2)
JJ Maybank x female reader
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Part one // -- // Part three // Part four
Summary: A week after the last incident with your parents, you’re invited to a kegger with your friends, and unsurprisingly a fight breaks out (literally an awful chapter summary but my brain is mush so you’re gonna have to deal with it)
Word count: 2.8k
Warnings: mentions of abuse, actual abuse, fighting, swearing, (highkey haven’t read through so definitely mistakes)
——- I am in no way romanticising abuse if you have any issues with my writing pls message me
A/N: thank you all for the great response to the first part 🥺 🥰 im not 100% sure how many parts there will be because that involves being organised but anyway I hope you enjoy this chapter :)) (also i promise the next chapter will actually have more JJ in it) and I originally wasn’t gonna spend much time writing before the keg but I got carried away so sorry
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“Y/N!” You heard from behind you, turning around you’re met with the smiling face of Topper Thornton running up to you.
“Hey T,” you smiled at him, “You good?”
“Yep, um I was wondering are you free tonight?” He asked, you narrowed your eyes at him.
“Depends on why you’re asking.”
“There’s a kegger at the boneyard tonight and we haven’t spent time together in ages, Kelce wants you to go as well.” He tries to widen his eyes in a pleading manner.
“We haven’t spent time together because you’re always with Rafe now, and you know how I feel about him Topper.”
You turn to walk away, but he catches your arm, “I know, but Rafe won’t be there tonight, it’ll just be like old times, please Y/N.”
You consider his offer for a moment, “He really won’t be there?”
“Nope I promise.”
“Fine. I always like a kegger and you better not break that promise T, or it’ll never be like old times again.”
“Yes ma’am.” He salutes you, you roll your eyes at him, trying to hide your smile.
“See you later then.” You give him a small wave and continue heading to your car.
You, Topper and Kelce grew up thick as thieves and they still held a special place in your heart, but ever since they started hanging out with Rafe you’d grown apart. At first you were always invited to hang with them when they were with Rafe, but it didn’t take long for him to start to creep you out - not only by how he looked at you, but also because when he got angry at something he reminded you of your parents, and you never wanted to hang around someone like that. In truth you did miss them, but your mental health was bad enough without another person like that in your life, so you made other friends, not that you liked them as much.
The drive back to your house was nice, the idea you were seeing your friends again made you feel more relaxed than you had in a while, that was until your house came into view, both your parents’ cars sitting on the drive.
It had been a week since the last incident, and life felt suspiciously normal, you knew it was too good to be true though, your parents always acted like they were sorry after hurting you or Grace, then they would still hurt you again. It was a cycle you hated, but not one you could escape easily.
Obviously you couldn’t ask them to go out tonight so once again you were going to risk sneaking out and hoping for the best.
You took a deep breath and got out of your car, heading towards the door, bracing for the possibility your parents might be in bad moods.
Opening the door, you were met with silence, maybe your mum was already passed out from drinking on the sofa or something, but you were sure as hell going to take advantage of it. You crept through the hallway towards the stairs, checking your dad wasn’t in the kitchen, a sense of relief coming through you when you saw he wasn’t, and made your way up to your room.
You fall onto your bed, sighing and looking at the marks on the ceiling. You must have been tired enough to fall asleep, as the next thing you knew there was a soft knock at your door, rousing you from the calm state you were in, “Y/N,” you heard Grace whisper as her head came around the door.
You lifted your head to smile at her, “Hi.”
When she didn’t answer you sat up properly, taking in her appearance, her eyes were red and puffy, her body slightly hunched over, and her lips quivered. Realisation as to what had happened dawned on you, your heart sinking, “Hey come here,” you opened your arms for her.
Without hesitating she moved into your embrace, your arms sliding around her slim frame, pulling her in even closer when you felt the tears on your shoulder.
You stayed like that, rubbing circles on her back with one of your hands until her tears began to subside, when this happened you pulled back slightly, trying to meet her eyes, “Where?” You asked.
She pointed to her ankles, where they were already swollen and bruising.
You stood up, going to the draw you kept supplies for situations like this and pulled out a cream for the swelling and some bandages to try and support the injury.
You began working on it, “What happened Grace?”
She breathed in, sniffling slightly, “I was getting a drink and Mum asked me to get her some wine,” you clenched your jaw, trying to keep your mouth shut until she finished, “and I went to but she had obviously drank a lot already, so even finishing the bottle there wasn’t much in the glass. And when I gave it to her she thought-“ she hiccuped as the tears began falling again, “she thought I was trying to control how much she drank and she pushed me to the floor, and um I think I twisted my ankle on my way down.”
You couldn’t help but seethe with anger, how dare they hurt her, every time it happened, especially when you weren’t in the house, you couldn’t help but hate your parents - they were awful people who you wished would die sometimes, however bad that thought was to have.
“I’m going to kill them.” You stood up quickly, ready to go downstairs and fight your mum, or dad, hell even both of them.
Grace grabbed your hand, “No you won’t.”
You looked at her, the pain in her eyes making you realise she needed you, “I’m sorry, I just hate them so much, especially when they hurt you when I’m not around.”
“Y/N, I know - this is how I feel when they hurt you.”
“Yeah but I’m the older sister, I’m meant to protect you.”
You sank down next to her on the bed, taking her hand, “I’m meant to protect you Grace.”
She leant into your shoulder, “I love you Y/N but you can’t always protect me.”
Closing your eyes you kiss her hair, “I can try, and I love you too.”
You lay on your bed together, using each other’s presence as a comfort until your phone go off, you grab it and see a message from Topper light up your screen:
T - I’m on my way to pick you up please be ready
“Shit I forgot about that”
Your sister sits up to look at you, “What?”
“I said I’d go to a kegger with Topper earlier, obviously I’m not now.”
“Um yes you are.”
“No I’m not, I’m going to stay with you.”
“No,” your sister gave you a hard look, “Our parents ruin so much of our lives at the moment, you’re going to go have fun, even if I have to push you out the window myself.”
You smile at how stubborn she is, “Are you sure?”
“Absolutely, now lets get you ready for Topper.” She says teasingly.
You roll your eyes at her comment, she knows full well you don’t see Topper as anything more than a friend, and she’s always loved to tease you about it.
You end up wearing a small black skirt and a crop top with some red lipstick, ready in time for the next text Topper sent you saying he was at the end of your drive.
“Okay,” you turn to face your sister, “are you sure you’re okay with me going?”
“Yes, now please go.”
“Fine,” you kiss her on her head, and give her a small wave as you climb out your window.
Once you’re in Topper’s car, Kelce jokingly wolf whistling at you, your only response to smile and stick your middle finger up at him.
“It’s been so long since you’ve drank with us I bet your tolerance is shit now Y/N.” Topper smiles from where he’s turned to look at you.
“In your dreams T, I know I could still drink you under the table.” You laugh, sticking out your tongue at him so he could see in the drivers mirror.
By the time you arrived at the boneyard, there were already lots of drunk teenagers stumbling around on the beach, clearly enjoying their night.
Topper clapped his hands together, “Right, let’s have some fun.”
The three of you made your way towards the keg, which tonight was manned by Kiara and JJ, you gave a quick smile to Kie when she handed you your drink, then you looked up at JJ. You had felt his eyes on you as you interacted with Kiara, but only looked at him then, you stared into his blue eyes for what seemed like ages, until Topper took your arm and guided you to where Kelce was sat by the fire.
“How did your exams go then guys?” You asked once you’d sat down.
“Really? We’re at a kegger and you’re asking about exams? You really need to get out more Y/N.” Kelce laughed, nudging your leg with his.
“Fine, what do you want to talk about?”
“Not that.” Topper smirks at you, tossing a coin into your cup.
“Fuck you.” You say before you down the bitter liquid, “Now I’ve got to get another one dipshit.”
As you stand you playfully shove him off the log he’s sat on, and head back towards the keg to get a drink.
This time Kie wasn’t there, only JJ, who you could tell was looking at you as you made your way towards him.
“Uh can I have a refill please?” You hand your red cup to him.
“Wow a kook with manners, that’s almost unheard of.” He smirks at you.
“Unlike the rest of the kooks, you haven’t done anything to make me hate you, yet - so I’ll be nice for now.” You give him a smile and go to reach for your cup, only for him to move it out of your reach, giving you a look you couldn’t decipher.
“What’s your name? I don’t see you around often.”
“Y/N Y/L/N, now can I have my drink?” You say, reaching towards it again.
Before he can say anything else, you hear Topper’s voice from behind you, “Y/N, is this dirty pogue bothering you?”
You can’t help but feel the dread in your stomach, whenever words like that are said there is almost always a fight, and you hate it.
You swivel to look at Topper, “No he’s not, I was just getting a drink,” you try to manoeuvre him away from JJ, not that it was easy, especially when JJ started speaking.
“You know, Topper,” he sneered his name, “she’s her own person you shouldn’t be such a controlling bastard towards her.”
You turned to glare at JJ, but he only grinned at you.
Topper let out something almost like a growl and tackled JJ to the floor.
“For fucks sake, Topper get off him!” You shouted, ready to try and get him off of JJ.
That was until, your head felt like it had been run over by a car, a splitting headache already forming, you looked down to where JJ was being repeatedly punched on the face by Topper, his nose bleeding, and his eyes already beginning to swell up.
Shit. Shit. Shit. Shit. No way is he your soulmate - as far as you know you’ve got nothing in common? And everyone you know hates him, especially because of the fights he gets in. You can feel the stress and tears begin to build at the thought of a life with someone who seemed like he enjoyed fighting, you won’t survive that sort of relationship. Not with how your parents have treated you.
You tried recovering yourself, deep breaths in and out, blocking out the cheers for the fight around you, blocking out the pain in your face as JJ got punched again. And once you’d stopped shaking, you reached forward to try and get Topper off of JJ, for both your sakes apparently.
“Topper! Get the fuck off of him!” You shouted, but as you tried to wrap your arms around him to drag him off, he didn’t move, he was too invested in the fight, not even hearing you apparently - because of this he must have thought you were one of JJ’s friends trying to get him off, so without looking at you, Topper elbowed you in the gut, hard enough you staggered back in pain.
JJ seemed to register the pain you felt, his eyes wide as he looked at you, blood covering his face, but it gave him enough strength to push Topper off of him, and he made his way to you, worry somehow etched on his face even if he was much worse off than you.
Topper seemed to see where JJ was heading, and seeing you bent over, holding your stomach in pain made him realise that he’d hurt you, he pushed past JJ and knelt in front of you.
“Holy shit I’m so sorry Y/N.” His hands were on your cheeks, but you felt nothing, nothing except the tears that now escaped from your eyes.
You removed yourself from his touch, “Don’t fucking come near me Topper.”
You stood up, turning in the sand and began heading off the beach, only to feel Topper grip your arm, “Y/N I’m sorry, please don’t be mad.”
“I said not to touch me!” You shouted, ripping your arm away from him, when you noticed the stares you were getting from other people on the beach you lowered your voice, “It didn’t matter that Rafe didn’t come tonight in the end, because you’re just as bad as him now and I don’t think we should be friends anymore.”
He stared at you wordlessly, shock and hurt written on his face - not that you cared right now, he had hurt you, maybe by accident yes, but he knew about your home life and because he lost control, you wanted to hate him and never see him again.
He let you walk off that time, passing Kelce who looked like he wanted to talk to you but instead went over to Topper.
When you got to the road you realised you’d now have to walk home, so you quickly shook the sand out of your shoes then headed down the road in the direction of your house.
It was only a minute until you got interrupted again, “Hey Y/N,” JJ shouted from where he was running to catch up with you.
God you didn’t want to deal with this tonight but he’d probably just follow you home if you didn’t talk to him.
So you turned to face him, “What?”
“Are you okay?”
“Are you?” You raised your eyebrows at him, he’d been the one to get beaten up properly after all.
“I’ve had worse.” He shrugged, then rubbed the back of his neck, looking at you shyly “but um I felt your pain which means you must’ve felt mine and you know what that means.”
“Right now it means nothing JJ, I can’t deal with this tonight so please, leave me alone.”
He could obviously see how rough you felt, you were pretty sure you were still crying, and you were tired, so tired, and falling out with topper was one thing, but also realising your fucking soulmate was JJ Maybank was just something you couldn’t handle tonight.
He raised his hands, “Okay we’ll talk about this at some point, and I am so sorry Y/N, truly.” His eyes were shining slightly, but you could tell he was being genuine.
You nodded and turned around again to head home, leaving him at the side of the road.
You weren’t sure how long the walk home took, it seemed to pass in minutes with the number of thoughts that were racing through your head, it was as if you were on autopilot, climbing the trellis with ease, not even thinking where you were putting your hands and feet.
You were so out of it, you didn’t even realise your bedroom light was on, when you hadn’t turned it on before you left, so when you climbed into your room the last thing you expected to see was your mum and dad sitting on your bed with their arms crossed, expressions of pure anger on their faces.
(feel like this isnt my best but I am enjoying writing it also there might be fluff at some point but certainly not the next chapter whoops)
Part three
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tintinwrites · 4 years
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i’d rather be lonely | Javier Peña x Reader | Part Nine
A/N: I’m guessing y’all enjoyed the previous part!
Rating: 18+
Warning: Oral (F receiving). Naughty words. Mentions of a scar.
Word count: 2,849, apparently!!
Summary: You and Javier talk about what the two of you are doing.
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You woke up to lips pressing slowly down your side and you smiled, knowing full well who was in your bed and being happy about it.
You and Javier had so much to make up for that you invited him back to your place where you fumbled in the dark then laid there in a tangle of limbs where you fell asleep together.
It was the first time in a long time that he’d stayed when sleeping with somebody, but you were different.
His eyes were hooded with sleep and lust when you turned your head to look at him, immediately trailing down to your breasts the moment you moved from your stomach to lay on your side.
“Good morning,” you said pleasantly, perhaps you would’ve been uncharacteristically giddy if you weren’t thinking about how you were going to need to talk about why you’d slept with the man you supposedly hated.
“Morning.” He leaned in to kiss you and even with your worry, you couldn’t help but kiss him back because he was good at it.
When his lips trailed down your chin, along your jaw, down your neck, moving towards your chest, you reluctantly put a hand on his shoulder to push him back. He obeyed the command without hesitation, but there was something in his eyes; concern, maybe, that you hated him again and it was just some sex to put all that pent up emotion somewhere.
Fuck, why did that make his chest squeeze like that when he’d done this with so many women before?
“I’ve been...I know I’ve probably been really frustrating to you and I want to talk this out with you to see what...what are we doing?” You finally asked, sitting up and grabbing the sheet from your lap to cover the breasts he’d been sucking on at one point.
“I don’t know...every time I think we’re doing one thing, you turn it around on me.” He propped up on his elbows, not meeting your eyes because he knew this conversation was necessary, but it was still awkward and something he didn’t often do.
“That’s what I mean, and I think I owe you an explanation that...that...when…” You closed your eyes for a moment, then looked at him even if he wasn’t looking at you. “When I was...shot...I saw the side of you that I didn’t want to, I saw that you were caring and thoughtful, and I liked that. I started thinking about how much of a mistake it was to assume things about you, how it might be nice to try and be friends or more, and then I went to your apartment and…”
“Ah, fuck.” He ran his hand through his hair, sitting up a little bit more. “I was wondering if that’s what this was about, because you saw me with her and I showed myself to be the jackass you knew I was.”
“No, Javi...seeing you with a prostitute when we were growing closer hurt and I...instead of letting myself be hurt, I went back to hating you because it was easier.” You picked at the finely sewn threads of the sheet awkwardly.
“Oh.” Javier simply didn’t know what to say to this, though there was something about you being hurt by the idea of him being with someone else that made him almost happy in a stupid way, knowing he was right when you mentioned more with you and that you genuinely wanted him.
The two of you fell silent for a long moment before he asked you,
“So, you wanna go back to hating me?” It was partly a joke and partly a genuine question.
“No, I don’t, but...I know this is usually a one time thing for you, so if you want to pretend we never did anything, then that’s fine, and I promise to be civil to you because I understand sex doesn’t make you a bad person seeing as I—” Your eyes widened when he pressed his lips to yours, then you slowly let them flutter shut as you kissed him back.
He pulled away after a moment and just admired the passion you put into the kiss, how your lips were still slightly pursed as if waiting for more. “I’m not that much of an asshole and...fuck, I don’t know, I want more than one night with you.”
You looked at him with a dreamy look in your eyes like you’d longed for him, which a part of you did, and you reached up to run your thumb across his chin. “Be straight with me, Javi, and tell me what you want out of this.”
“Why don’t we just try this out and see where we end up?” He knew you were using his nickname a lot more and it sounded so natural, so beautiful. “If you hate me, then we can break things off, or maybe it’ll be something more. No pressure.”
“No pressure. That means if you realize it’s too much commitment, you can run away.” You smiled, though you honestly were a bit worried that he would be scared and decide to leave you and you might be in love with him at some point.
Could you fall in love with Javier?
That was an idea you would’ve laughed at until there were tears in your eyes not long ago, but now it seemed like you could.
Like you would.
You understood being afraid of relationships in this line of work and maybe you’d put those things off because of more than independence, but it would break your heart if he treated you the way he often treated other women, the very thing you’d hated him for without seeing the man beyond the womanizing.
You were afraid too, obviously, of being hurt, whether it was by abandonment or…
You tried not to think of how dangerous this could be even if DEA agents weren’t supposed to be touched. You’d been shot, for fuck’s sake, which could easily happen again or happen to Javier.
You were afraid of pain or being taken advantage of or being seen as an object or many other things for so long that you ignored so many advances and now you were opening yourself up to the very man you’d hated for making them, which was terrifying itself.
Javier noticed the look in your eyes, smirking slightly. “I know I said no pressure, I didn’t think you’d leave that quickly.”
You were so wrapped up in your thoughts of being afraid yet wanting this that it took you a moment before you realized he said something. “Huh? Oh...no, I, um...I was just thinking about how…”
“About how…?” He prompted, raising an eyebrow high.
“I thought it was better to be lonely and angry because I wouldn’t be hurt that way, to lash out because I didn’t want to be seen as just something to fuck or...something to leave. It was easy to hate you because I wouldn’t let you hurt me, but you still did because I wanted this and...and, I don’t know, I thought I was okay being alone because of my job, but…” You met his eyes. “I think I realized when I thought of more with you that I’d rather not be lonely, you know?”
He chuckled, understanding you even if he wasn’t going to admit it.
You weren’t even sure you made any sense with your emotions being terrified even though you wanted this, realizing how lonely you’d really been now that you’d let yourself want someone.
“No pressure,” you reminded him softly, then looked down. “Can we...keep this between us for now?”
“—sure.” His hesitation made you look up to quickly reassure him.
“I’m not ashamed of you, okay? I know you’re a good man, it’s just that I don’t really know if this is allowed, and we don’t even know what we are. I don’t wanna know what Steve will have to say about this. Fuck, or Alvarez.”
“Hey, it’s fine, you’re probably right that we should keep it a secret for right now.”
Both of you fell silent again because that was that; you wanted to try this out, no pressure, you’d figure it out along the way, and you would keep it a secret for now to avoid any unnecessary drama.
With that conversation out of the way, Javier was able to focus on the aspect of your relationship you’d indulged in.
“I think we can agree we’ll be having sex as we figure all this out, right?” His hand moved under the sheet, finding your bare hip.
“Uh, yes.” You couldn’t blame anyone who’d ever slept with Javier because he was as good as he made himself out to be.
“With all the shit we did last night, I don’t think we looked at each other.”
“—you’re right.”
Both of you definitely groped and fucked certain parts of each other, but you’d been mostly dressed at the office and you didn’t turn any lights on when you went back to your apartment.
“Show me.” He tugged on the sheet and you made a noise of protest, tightening your grip on it to hold it to your chest.
“No, you show me!” The idea of being naked in front of Javier Peña was nerve wracking because he’d been with so many people, and there was still some part of your brain that insisted you weren’t supposed to show yourself to this man even though you didn’t hate him and you’d let him inside you...and there was also this fear to show him that you weren’t...perfect.
He rolled his eyes and moved out of the bed with no shame whatsoever, standing there for you to see with his hands on his hips.
His shoulders were as broad out of his clothes as they were in them, yet the rest of him was fairly slim and you would guess fit since he ran so much. Your eyes were immediately drawn to the patch of hair between his legs that led to a part of him you knew was sizable when it was inside you, your eyes still widening at the sight anyway.
That look made his lips twitch into a lopsided smile, chuckling softly. “You know, you’re a lot more flattering when you don’t hate me.”
“Unfortunately you were sexy even when I thought I hated you,” you said without really thinking of your words, almost wistful as you let your eyes roam over him.
“Are you treating me like a sex object?” There was a joking lilt to his tone, mocking your behavior towards him lightheartedly since he understood you were just trying to remain professional in a job that worked against women when you’d railed into him.
“Yes.” It took you a moment to realize what you’d answered and you looked up at him for a moment in a way that made him think he might’ve just made you hate him again, but then you let out a laugh.
“Your turn.” He liked the sound of your laugh more than he wanted to admit, so he decided to change the subject with something he was happy to admit he liked.
You hesitated for all those aforementioned reasons, but it was only fair now that you’d seen him, so you slowly slid out from under the covers to stand on the other side of the bed.
His eyes went to your breasts and lingered for a long moment before moving down the rest of your body, lips parting at the sight of your pussy. It was fun to be inside it, obviously, but it was nice to see the place where he’d pounded into you.
Your hands were on your hips like his, but he noticed that one of your hands was over a little and he knew that was where you’d been shot.
He tried to meet your gaze only to find you were staring off to the side. He thought for a moment and then nodded towards you.
“Come here.” His words made you look at him and he stared hard, telling you he wasn’t kidding and you needed to listen to him.
It took a moment, but you slowly walked around the bed to stand in front of him, and he grabbed onto your wrist to gently pull your hand away from your hip.
You were definitely reluctant, staring down at the floor as he revealed the small scar on your hip that you were so unashamed of for some reason.
He could’ve told you that it was nothing, that you were sexy with or without it, that it would probably fade one day, but those types of things usually sounded like someone was just trying to be polite because they didn’t know what else to do.
So he looked at you until you met his eyes, then he moved to his knees and kept his gaze on yours as he pressed a slow, gentle kiss to the scar.
There were tears in your eyes and he wasn’t sure whether they were happy or not, hoping they were as you gently ran stroked over his hair.
His own hands slid up your thighs and moved to hold onto your hips, gently pushing you down to sit on the bed where he knelt between your legs.
“What are you doing?” Your legs opened wider almost of their own accord when he began pressing little kisses along your inner thighs.
He didn’t answer you, moving his hands down to lay them on the tops of your thighs, his thumbs going to your folds and pulling you open for a good look at your cunt. He let out a low groan at the sight of you, wasting no time in leaning in and pressing his face against you.
His tongue lapped and flicked at you, fast and firm, and you were crying out in mere moments from how good at this he was, knowing exactly where and how to touch you.
He would run his tongue up your slit then stop at your clit for a moment to suck on it, then go right back to licking at you, teasing you perfectly to turn you on that much faster.
Once he’d made you thoroughly wet and you were moaning out his name, he stopped teasing you and dipped his head down to shove his tongue into your entrance, fucking you with it as he nudged at your clit with his nose. It was amazing for those two areas of you to be stimulated at the same time and you tightened your grip on his hair, tugging hard.
“Fuck, Javi!” You couldn’t believe how easy it was for him to make you come even if this was the third time he’d be doing it, so close within a couple minutes when your other partners needed a lot of guidance.
Sometimes you had to do it yourself because they didn’t know what they were doing or didn’t care enough to try.
But not with Javier, who was thrusting his tongue into you with such precision that you were practically lifting up off the bed to press yourself to him.
It only turned you on more when you looked down to see him staring up at you darkly, obviously turned on himself based on the look in his eyes that basically told you how much he wanted to fuck you.
“I’m gonna come…” If anything, your words made him move his tongue faster inside you, one of his hands moving so he could rub his finger against your clit.
Your hips jerked and he groaned into you the moment your cunt clenched down on his tongue, continuing to lick into you as you came for him, lapping you up and letting you know how much he enjoyed the taste of you with little encouraging moans.
The way you jerked his head back when your orgasm faded and his touches were too much made his cock twitch, part of him liking that hint of dominance as he gazed up at you.
His lips and chin were shining from your wetness being all over him and you let go of him because the sight was turning you on all over again.
He smirked, leaning in to press a few more kisses to the scar on your hip.
“I think...I should probably return the favor.” Not only was being eaten out a rare occurrence for you, but he took the shame at your scar and made it go away so easily.
“Seriously?” He didn’t think you were the type, but he’d only really known you as a person who was seemingly always angry until recently and the look in your eyes told him you wanted to return the favor.
You nodded and he was on you, kissing you as you let out another beautiful laugh against his lips, pushing you down onto the bed.
Neither of you could believe you’d wasted so much time.
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Well, this is it boys. My final character analysis. Dream, Techno, and Tommy. I’m pretty sure I’m going to be skirting the word count here. Thank you to all of you who have been reblogging and liking the posts, it means a lot. That being said, because of the characters I’m going to be talking about and the weird split between Techno and Tommy viewers, I want to remind everyone that below are my own opinions and analyses. You are entitled to your own opinion. Well, let’s get this show on the road!
Dream:
One of the best things about the server is that there are no black and white characters. There are no good or evil, but verying degrees of gray. That said, Dream’s pretty close to black; he’s the closest we get to a main villain throughout the story. Dream’s been the underlying antagonist for a while, but I feel he’s taken a bigger role in this season. As far as I can tell, Dream’s got two motives: bringing the server together as one big family with no factions who he definitely doesn’t control, and prolonging the conflict with Tommy. Tommy is entertainment to him. Dream doesn’t want to give up the disks because then the story, Tommy’s story will end. I’m in the camp of beleiveing that if the disks return to Tommy, the plot line will essentially be over. Dream doesn’t want to part with his plaything just yet, but he can’t kill him either. After all, what happy family goes around killing its members? Horrible punishments? No! But emotional manipulation, is fine. That doesn’t just apply to Tommy: Dream manipulated Tubbo, Eret, Techno (to an extent. There’s a favor floating around still) among others. I think, if Tommy wins, Dream will be forced to either find a new plaything (I personally think Tubbo. L’Manburg is kind of Tubbo’s ‘disks’ in a way. Oh, I’m sorry, Snowchester) or he will have to kill Tommy. My speculation for tomorrow is that Tommy and Tubbo will defeat Dream, but Dream will snap and either call on Techno’s favor to in prison Tommy, or will just pull a god thing and kill Tommy outright. But that’s just a theory, a GAM-
Techno:
I’m very much a middle of the road sort of person. I pretty much watched or partially watched everyone’s perspective (from except Phil’s sorry) on Doomsday, and since then I try to catch both Techno’s and Tommy’s when they are streaming. Why do I say this? Well, you’re going to notice that I am not going to make a clear decision on who I support. I’ll try my best to keep these last two as unbiased as possible...
I’ll start by saying that Techno is... strange to me. I can’t tell if I really like his character, or hate it. I’ll begin with the negatives, I think. I don’t like how Techno points to everyone betraying him instantly. Tommy did use him for supplies and shelter and what have you, but something I find people don’t consider is that Techno used Tommy too. Tommy said over and over he wasn’t going to blow up L’Manburg, and time and time again Techno brushed Tommy aside. Techno forced Tommy to choose between a lifelong friend who’d made a mistake and been manipulated, and someone who barely deigned themselves to respect him. I saw people were really surprised by Tommy choosing Tubbo, but... was it all that unexpected. That’s not to say Techno was unjustified. He did extend his hand to Tommy, only for it to be batted away, and maybe he meant well, but he was kind of an ass to Tommy. It wasn’t manipulation like Dream did, but he did use Tommy to help him gather supplies and get into L’Manburg and what have you. I guess the real thing that defines the dislike side of things is that Techno really doesn’t try to see from other’s perspectives. He tends to take a ‘my way or the high way’ approach. Also... I don’t really know how to feel about the syndicate. I can’t tell as of yet if it is truly as open as Techno made it out to be.
Alright, Techno’s good things. A lot of Techno’s actions were justified. I feel like L’Manburg waaaaay overreacted, and Techno’s anger was extremely justified. L’Manburg, for all of its good intentions, was corrupt. It needed to fall. (The builder in me would have just preferred a coup or disbandment or something, not a chunk error, but I guess what happens happens not like you can fix anything now.) I still think Technos story will continue beyond this season. He’s still got people he needs to take down. I don’t think Tommy’s on that list actually. I mean... he didn’t kill him on sight today, and he let Tommy say goodbye so...? Either way, there are still people that need to be taken down. I feel kind of bad for Eret tbh. It’s gonna be a bumpy road for him, even if he means well. Techno also was right to be angry at Tommy. They betrayed each other, in a way. Their alliance was as doomed as L’Manburg.
Tommy:
Our protagonist. Our ‘hero.’
Like Techno, I feel there are good and bad things to be said about Tommy’s character. Unlike Techno, Tommy’s character both changed and didn’t change at the same time. I noticed a lot of people saying that ‘Tommy is so immature,’ or ‘why doesn’t he just give up the disks he didn’t change at all,’ or whatnot. My response to this is: Tommy did not have a chance to develop. He spent the season being tormented by Dream, then dragged into the anarchists where he didn’t really have a say. Why did he ‘betray’ Techno? It was all Tommy knew. He’d been betrayed over and over again himself. Tommy, for so, so long, did not experience any sort of support. Tubbo exiled him, Dream nearly destroyed him, Techno didn’t listen, and Tommy? Tommy didn’t know what to think because not once did anyone care about what he had to say, until it was much too late.
For of all his stagnation though... Tommy did change. And it all comes down to one line. “The disks are more important then you ever were.” I’m that moment, Tommy realized that somewhere in exile, or somewhere in the tundra, he’d lost some sort of humanity. In the same way that Quackity realized how much like Schlatt he was, Tommy realized how blind he’d been by his want of the disks. He was willing to give up his own best friend for material wealth. He betrayed Techno because he realized that Tubbo was more important. Ever since then, Tommy has been a bit more attentive to other people. He apologizes to Tubbo and Connor. He offers IOU’s to people, which doesn’t seem like a big deal, but would old Tommy have done that? But then, why continue to go after the disks? Well, something changed in that motive to. Before, Tommy wanted the disks back because, “The disks were mine and he stole them from me.” He wanted them back because having them stolen was an insult that needed repaying. Now though, I think Tommy wants them back because he truly believes that it would solve conflict. He doesn’t want them back for himself anymore, he wants them back because that’s the only way to achieve peace. Whether that is true or not, I can’t say. I also saw a lot of people wondering ‘why the disks. Why were they so important to him in the first place?’ The disks represent the good old days. When it was just a server playing Minecraft. Before L’Manburg and Techno and Wilbur and hto dog vans and exiles, before everything. That’s why they are so important to him. They represent memories. Peace. Happiness Tommy hasn’t felt since then. It’s why it’s so hard for him to let them go. Letting them go would be letting the memories go; letting the people attached to those memories go. Tommy is trapped in the past. I by no means support the obsession, nor do I find it justifiable... but it is understandable.
Let’s see... I already touched on why Tommy left Techno... so let’s finish off with some interesting things that Tommy has learned. As awful as Dream was to him, Tommy learned somthing very important from him. Sentiment is a weapon and a bargaining chip. He secures Sapnap’s Loyalty by returning Mars, Sapnap’s ‘disks’, an item of sentiment to him. I also think of the pair, Tommy is better equipped to let L’Manburg fade then Tubbo. If Tommy succeeds, I wonder what will happen. And does loosing mean dying. Tommy thinks it does, but loosing to Dream could mean many different things. The battle tomorrow will not be so straightforward as Tommy seems to think. We wait with bated breath. For some dark levity at the end of it all. If Tommy wins, Niki’s gonna off ‘im anyway so...
Thanks for reading! If you made it all the way down here, kudos. I hope you enjoyed. I hope to post more in the future, not only DreamSMP, but other fandoms as well. I’ll see you all later!
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Hello again! Im the tinfoil hat anon with the long ass asks and I finally had the time to read your response. Thank you, it makes my day reading your answers. I honestly just enjoyed them over a cup of coffee like a good book.
Now, the gun pointing scene I mentioned was in fact the one from the droid fight facility like the other anon suggested. But I really liked that you covered the boat scene too, I haven’t thought of it much myself and now I definitely have!
I also would like to mention I love your “candy bar” choice analogy and I 100% agree Hunter’s “invitation” to join back wasn’t welcoming in the slightest. It is very likely just an obligation as you said. Sort of “you gave us a chance, we owe you a chance too”.
And the problem with it is now I am struggling to figure out how the batch members might change their attitude toward Crosshair going forward, especially Hunter. As of right now Crosshair’s best relationship is not with his brothers but with Omega(as surprising as this is). And I think he does realize now she cared about him the most out of all of them during the short time they interacted(both 1st and last episodes). Even between themselves(not counting Omega) I find most of the bad batch members to be cold and distant to each other. They feel less like a family than Rebels for example. And they aren’t even a “found family”(a trope everyone loves) but an actual one! And I get that they’re soldiers and supposed to be tough, I don’t expect them to share all “the feels”. I just can’t put my finger on it but something feels off. I agree with your previous post, the show doesn’t do a very good job showing or even telling they love each other.
Will Hunter and co only start caring about their brother again only after he leaves the empire?(assuming he does at some point). What about Disney’s prevailing theme and message that “family always love and care for each other no matter what”? I guess it’s “family always love and care for each other but only if you’re good guys making right choices”. There is no room for mistakes or wrong decisions. In the last episode everyone form the batch seemed to have given up on Crosshair(besides Omega). For now their attitude seems to be just “you’re not our enemy” and that’s that.
I realize Crosshair is a “bad guy” and consciously made his choice(and we know it’s the wrong one) but to me it felt like he thought he didn’t even had a choice or rather became so lost and confused he actually thought he chose the empire as “the lesser evil”(as in the less shitty choice out of all the other bad ones). We as audience have the benefit to know exactly how atrocious the empire really is but maybe Crosshair still doesn’t realize that.
So what exactly must Crosshair do to get back “in their good graces” as you say? Start saving “the good guys”? Save the bad batch multiple times? There is a popular opinion on how Crosshair can redeem himself. That he eventually heroically sacrifices himself to save them. I personally REALLY hope it’s NOT what’s going to happen but I heard so many people speculating his story is set up to be redemption=death. I know you mentioned you don’t want “Vader style redemption” either. Personally I think it would be a waste of a character who has a lot of potential. And I just think that the batch kind of don’t really deserve his sacrifice(maybe save for Omega) after how they never tried to save him themselves and how they treated him overall. Maybe he will risk his life to save Omega at some point and that will “prove” to Hunter he cares? Although he has already shown he cares by saving her(even if in Crosshair’s own words it’s just so they’re “even”). And the thing is, he doesn’t need to prove that he loves them, he already did that in episode 15 and made it clear he does care. He actually went to extreme by shooting his squad to prove his loyalty. What were the moments the batch demonstrated they care about him? Hunter saying “you never were our enemy” and taking his unconscious body to safety? To me Hunter “not leaving him behind” during bombardment felt more like guilt about the last time it happened and an obligation to Crosshair for helping them with droids, rather than them showing care. And I kinda of think if that was any random civilian(or anyone other than an enemy or a threat) they would carry them out too just because that’s what good guys do and not because it’s their brother. You also mentioned that minutes later Hunter snaps at him with “if you want to stay here and die, that’s your choice” which I agree can be interpreted in different ways. And I think it’s one more point to it being an obligation that in Hunter’s eyes is fulfilled now. He corrected his mistake of leaving a brother behind and saved him this time, now his guilt won’t burden him any longer.
Anyway, I can’t wait for season 2 and I appreciate you and all the anons sharing the tinfoil hat, interacting and speculating together. Those discussions have been a lot of fun!
TLDR: How do your think the relationship between the brothers will mend or evolve in the next season? Do you think S2 will improve in portraying the batch more as a family rather than a group of mercs doing missions together? What are your thoughts on the popular idea of Crosshair’s redemption by ultimate sacrifice? As in, how likely do you think this scenario is?
Anon, that is just wonderfully hilarious to me. Ah yes, the sunrise, a good cup o' joe, and the overly long character analysis of a snarky, fictional sniper. Exactly what everyone needs in the morning! 😆
You know, TBB is far from the first show I've watched where there's an obvious, emotional conclusion the creator wants the audience to come to—the squad all love each other Very Much—yet that conclusion isn't always well supported by the text. It creates this horribly awkward situation where you're going, "Yes, I'm fully aware of what the show wanted to do, but this reading, arguably, did not end up in the story itself. So what are we talking about here? The intention, or the execution?" It's like Schrödinger's Bad Batch where the group is simultaneously Very Loving and Very Distant depending on how much meta-aspects are influencing your reading: those authorial intentions, understanding of how found family tropes should work, fluff focused fics/fan art that color our understanding of the characters, etc. And, of course, whether someone saw TCW before they watched TBB. I personally wouldn't go quite so far as to say they're "cold" towards one another—with Crosshair as an exception now—but there wasn't the level of bonding among the squad that I expected of a show called The Bad Batch. Especially compared to their arc in TCW. The other night I re-watched the season seven premiere and was struck not just by how much more the squad interacted with each other back then, but how those interactions added depth to their characters too. For example, Crosshair is the mean one, right? He's the one picking fights with the Regs? Well yeah... but it's also Wrecker. While they're trying to decide what to do with Cody injured, Jesse calls out Crosshair on his attitude—"You can't talk to Captain Rex like that!"—and Wrecker's immediate response is, "Says who?" and he hefts Jesse into the air. And then he just holds him there, clearly using his superior strength to do as he pleases, until Hunter (sounding pretty angry) tells him to put Jesse down. If Wrecker had put him into a more classically understood bullying position, like pinning him to the ground, it would probably read as less funny—less "Haha strong clone lifts Jesse up in the air!" and more "Oh shit, strong clone can do whatever the hell he wants to the Regs and few are able to stop him." It's such a quick moment, but it tells us a ton about Wrecker. That he's going to stick up for his brothers, no matter the context (Crosshair deserves to be called out). That he will gleefully assist Crosshair in bothering the Regs (something that is reinforced when he later throws the trays in the mess hall, after Hunter has already deescalated the situation). That he's likely been hurt by awful treatment from the Regs too. That he'll only listen to Hunter when it comes to backing off. Little of this work—that interplay among the squad that shows us new sides to them other than basic things like "Wrecker is the nice, happy brother"—exists in TBB.
Or, at least, little exists after Omega becomes an official member of the squad.
Because, as said previously, she becomes the focus. I don't mean that as a total criticism. As established, I love Omega. But if we're talking about why the squad can feel so distant from each other, I think she's the root cause, simply because the story became all about her relationships with the Batch, rather than the Batch's relationships with each other. Having dived headfirst into reading and writing fic, it occurred to me just how many of the bonding moments we love, the sort of stuff we'll see repeated in fics because we understand that this is where the story's emotional center is, are given to Omega in canon:
Someone is hurt and in need of comfort. Omega's emotional state is the focus + moments like her being worried over Hunter getting shot.
Someone needs to learn a new skill. Echo teaches Omega how to use her bow.
Someone reveals a skill they never knew they had before. Omega is a strategic genius and plays her last game with Hunter.
Someone is in serious danger and in need of rescue. Omega rescues the group from the slavers + is the most vocal about rescuing Hunter. (Which, again, is a pretty sharp contrast to the whole Crosshair situation.) Omega, in turn, needs rescuing from things like the decommission conveyor belt.
Similarly, someone is kidnapped and in need of rescue. Omega is kidnapped twice by bounty hunters and the Batch goes after her.
Someone saves another's life. Omega saves Crosshair from drowning.
Someone does something super sweet for another. Wrecker gives Omega her room. Omega gives Wrecker Lula.
A cute tradition is established between characters. Wrecker has his popcorn-esque candy sharing with Omega.
Someone hurts someone else and has to ask forgiveness. Wrecker is upset about nearly shooting Omega and they have that sweet moment together.
Note that most of these examples could have occurred between other Batch members, but didn't. Someone could have created a space for Echo on the ship too. Wrecker also could have apologized to Tech for choking him, etc. It's not that those moments shouldn't happen with Omega, just that there should be more of a balance across the whole season, especially for a show supposedly focused on the original squad. Additionally, it's not that cute bonding moments between the rest of the Batch don't exist. I love Hunter selling Echo off as a droid. I love Wrecker and Tech bickering while fixing the ship. I love the tug-of-war to save Wrecker from the sea monster. Yes, we do have moments... it's just that comparatively it feels pretty skewed in Omega's direction.
So, as a VERY long-winded way of answering your question, I think we need to fix the above in order to tackle Crosshair's redemption in season two. Now that we've had a full season focused on Omega, we need to strike a better balance among the rest of the squad moving forward. We need to re-established the "obvious" conclusion that the rest of the Batch loves Crosshair and that's done (in part) by establishing their love for one another too. To my mind, both goals go hand-in-hand, especially since you can develop their relationship with Crosshair and their relationships with each other simultaneously. Imagine if instead of just having Wrecker somewhat comically admit that he misses Crosshair (like he's dead and they can't go get him??), he and Tech had a serious conversation about why they can't get him back yet, despite very much wanting to. Imagine if Echo, the one who was rescued against all odds, got to scream at Hunter to go get Crosshair like Omega screamed at them to go back for Hunter. Imagine if we'd gotten more than a tiny arc in TCW to establish the Batch's dynamic with each other, providing a foundation for how they would each react to Crosshair's absence. Instead, what little we've got in TBB about Crosshair's relationship with his brothers is filtered through Omega: Omega's embarrassment that she knocked over Crosshair's case, Omega treating Crosshair's comm link like a toy, Omega's quest to save Hunter that just happened to involve Crosshair along the way.
Obviously, at this point we can't fix how the first season did things, but I think we can start patching over these issues in season two. It would be jarring—we'd still be 100% correct to ask where this "Brothers love you, support you, and will endlessly fight for you" theme was for Crosshair's entire time under the Empire's thumb... but I'd take an about-face into something better than not getting any improvement at all. It is frustrating though, especially for a show that I otherwise really, really enjoyed. For me, the issue isn't so much that the show made a mistake (since no show is perfect), but that the mistake is attached to such a foundational part of the franchise. Not just in terms of "SW is about hope and forgiveness" but the specific relationship most clones have with each other: a willingness to go above and beyond for their brothers. The focus on Omega aside, it's hard to believe in the family dynamic when one member of the family was so quickly and easily dismissed. I couldn't get invested in Hunter's rescue as much as I should have because rather than going, "Yes!! Save your brother!!!" my brain just kept going, "Lol where was this energy for Crosshair?" It messes with your reading of the whole story, so in order to fix that mistake going forward, we need to start seeing the bonds that only sometimes exist in season one. Show the guys expressing love for one another more consistently (in whatever way that might be—as you say, soldiers don't have to be all touchy-feely. Give us more moments like Wrecker supporting his brothers' bad habits) and then extend that to Crosshair. Which brother is going to demand that they fight for him? Which brother is going to acknowledge that they never tried to save him? Which brother is going to question this iffy statement about the chip? In order to buy into the family theme, Omega can't be the only one doing that emotional work.
Ideally, I wouldn't want Crosshair to go out of his way to prove that he's a good guy now. I mean, I obviously want him to stop helping the Empire and such, duh lol, but I'm personally not looking for a bunch of Extra Good Things directed at the Batch as a requirement for forgiveness. Simply because that would reinforce the idea that they're 100% Crosshair's victims, Crosshair is 100% the bad guy, and he's the only one who needs to do any work to fix this situation. Crosshair needs to stop doing bad things (working for Empire). But the Batch needs to start doing good things too (reaching out to him). Especially since Crosshair made a good play already, only to be met with glares and distrust. He saved Omega! And AZI! And none of them cared. So am I (is Crosshair) supposed to believe that saving one of their lives again will result in a different reaction? That doesn't make much sense. And no, his own life wasn't at risk when he did that, but does every antagonist need to die/nearly die to prove they're worth fighting for? As you say, he's already shown that he loves them, far more than they've shown the reverse. Every time Crosshair hurt them (attacking) it was while he was under the chip's influence. In contrast, the group has no "I was being controlled" excuse for when they hurt him (abandonment). Season two needs to acknowledge the Batch's responsibility in all this—and acknowledge that they're all victims of the Empire—in order to figure out an appropriate arc for Crosshair's redemption.
Right now, the issue is not Crosshair loving his brothers, the issue is how Crosshair chooses to express that love: trying to keep them safe and giving them a purpose in life by joining the organization that's clearly going to dominate the galaxy. The only way to fix that, now that his offer has been rejected, is for him to realize that a life on the run from the Empire, together, is a better option for everyone. And the only way for that to happen is for the Batch to seriously offer him a place with them again. They need to make the first move here. They need to fight for him. And yeah, I totally get that a lot of people don't like that because it's not "fair." He's the bad guy. He's with the fascist allegory. He's killed people and has therefore lost any right to compassion and effort from the good guys... but if that's the case, then we just have to accept that (within the story-world, not from a writing perspective) Crosshair is unlikely to ever come back from this. When people reach that kind of low, they rarely pull themselves out on their own. They need other people to help them do that. Help them a lot. But with the exception of Omega's reminder—which Crosshair can't believe due to how everyone else has treated him—they leave him alone and seem to expect him to fix himself first, then he gets their support. It needs to be the other way around. Support is what would allow him to become a good guy again, not "Well, you'll get our love when you're good again, not before." That's unlikely to occur and, as discussed, it doesn't take into account things like this bad guy life being forced on Crosshair at the start. If the story really wanted this to be a matter of ideological differences... then make it about ideological differences. Let Crosshair leave of his own free will, right at the start. Don't enslave him for half the season, have him realize he was abandoned, imply all that brainwashing, give him no realistic way out, and then punish him for not doing the right thing. This isn't a situation where someone went bad for the hell of it—the story isn't asking us to feel compassion for, say, the Admiral—it's a situation where Crosshair was controlled and now can't see a way out. That context allows for the Batch, the good guys, to fight for him without the audience thinking the show is just excusing that behavior. They should have been fighting from the start, but since they didn't, I hope we at least start seeing that in season two.
Ultimately though... I don't really expect all of the above. The more balanced dynamics and having the Batch fight for Crosshair rather than Crosshair going it alone... I wouldn't want to bet any money on us getting it, just because these are things that should have been established in season one and would have been more easy to pull off in season one. (If the Batch wouldn't fight for Crosshair while he was literally under the Empire's control, why would they fight now when he's supposedly acting of his own free will? It's backwards in terms of the emotional effort involved.) But again, it could happen! I'd be very pleased if it did happen, despite the jarring change. I don't want to make it sound like I think they're going to write off Crosshair entirely. Far from it, I think there are too many details like his sad looks for that, to say nothing of Omega's compassion. But the execution of getting him on Team Good Guys again might be preeeetty bumpy. I expect it to revolve around Crosshair's sins and Crosshair's redemption, even if what I would like is balancing that with Crosshair's loss of agency, the Batch's mistakes, and their own redemption towards him.
Honestly though, I just hope that whatever happens happens soon. It's a personal preference, absolutely, but after a season of Crosshair as the antagonist, I'm ready for him to be back with the group, making the Empire (and bounty hunters) the primary enemy. Whether his return happens through a mutual acknowledgement of mistakes, or through Crosshair being depicted as the only one in the wrong who has to do something big to be forgiven... just get him back with the squad lol. Because if the writing isn't going to delve into that nuance, then the longer he remains unforgiven, the longer some of us have to watch a series while going, "Wait, wait, wait, I really don't agree with how you're painting this picture."
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bluebirdsbluebells · 4 years
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you get what you get - part six
pairing: jj maybank x reader (some topper x reader but it’s not romanticized at all)
summary: one mistake. one little mistake. that was all it took for everything to suddenly flip. you knew that you should’ve stayed in that night, and you were right from the beginning. you should’ve never let the blonde from the beach walk you home, and you were paying the price for it.
words: 4.1k
warnings: swearing, fighting, angst, some fluff...
a/n: oh my gosh. i can’t believe how patient everyone has been with me while i’ve been away from this site. it’s truly so amazing to have such a supportive fandom here, and im so grateful to be a part of it every single day. i love you all, and here is your new chapter! 
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You struggled with Topper for what seemed like years. Every time that you tried to work things out, he just got all fired up again, and he would hang up the phone, change the subject or just simply walk away. You knew that he wasn’t one for important talks, but you would think that he could’ve just sucked it up for one hour so that the two of you could fix things. It was starting to seem like some stupid game that he was playing, and you hated it.
“I just don’t get it Em,” you said, sighing heavily. You laid on Emerson’s fuzzy grey carpet, your feet on the wall. The two of you had spent the day on her dock, and you were both tired from the sun, but you sure as hell weren’t done with your irritation. “I don’t get it either,” Emerson replied. She was on her bed painting her toes with some kind of harshly overpriced nail polish that was meant to draw energy from the earth. “You know I told him last night that maybe things weren’t working,” you said quietly, wincing as you stared at Emerson’s ceiling. “Shit, you did?” “Yeah,” you mumbled, shaking your head and feeling the carpet tickle the back of your neck. “He got super angry at that as well. He said he couldn’t believe I would want to break up over something like that, and that I wasn’t trying hard enough. Okay, so he doesn’t want me to leave him, but he also doesn’t want me to stay?”
You heard Emerson sigh from the bed, and you craned your neck to look at her. She had her chin resting on her knee, and she was biting down on her lip, focussing on the polish. When she caught your eye she placed the little bottle down, and cocked her head at you.
“Normally I like to look at both sides of the story, but this time…” she pinched up her face, “not this time. He’s being an asshole.” “I know. The least he can do is let me talk about it. Nothing is going to get fixed if he doesn’t just talk about it with me.” “Exactly,” Emerson said. She was silent for a moment, and then she bit her upper lip, pulling the skin between her teeth. “You know, I think he likes this.” “Fighting?”
“Maybe not that… but having you always right there. He knows you’re not going to leave a problem unsolved Y/N. He wants you to beg for him.”
You pulled your feet down from the wall, and then sat up, tilting your head at Emerson as your brows furrowed. “He doesn’t think I’m actually going to leave him,” you said quietly, and Emerson nodded.
“I think it’s more that he knows that you’ll give him the attention whether you’re fighting or not. You won’t just walk away.” You shook your head, an angry flame beginning to settle in your stomach. It was easy for him to sit there and have you grovel in front of him, begging for his attention. You hated it because you knew that it was true. You had -- of course -- always known that Topper was controlling, but you had shoved it aside because you told yourself that you were capable of standing up to him, and you were capable of living your own life without his regards, but you hadn’t stayed true to that.
“That motherfucker,” you cursed, shaking your head as you got to your feet. Emerson cracked a half smile as she watched you stride across the room, grabbing your things.
“Where are you off to now?” She asked, fanning at her toes with one hand. “I’ll catch you later, okay?”
Emerson just shook her head at you, a small laugh escaping her lips. If she said something else you couldn’t hear it, because you bolted down her hallway, then hopped down the steps in record breaking time. As soon as the warm air hit your skin you whipped out your phone, dialling a very familiar number.
“Shit,” you cursed when JJ didn’t answer, but you tried again, then a third time, storming your way down the sidewalk. You really had no idea where he was, but you thought that the beach was the best option, so that was where you were headed. “Uh, yeah?” JJ finally answered on your fourth time calling, and you were relieved that he had picked up. You hadn’t talked barely at all over the weeks that Topper and you were fighting. You thought that it was best not to make anything worse for him, but in reality you were just making things worse for yourself.
“Where are you?” You asked JJ as you crossed the road, looking over your shoulder quickly. “Why?” JJ asked, but you could hear the distinct sound of the waves crashing against the shore in the background. “Is everything okay?” “Everything is great,” you said, nodding to yourself. “It’s great. What part of the beach?” JJ seemed taken aback, and that was fine with you. You had expected that.
“South end.” JJ sounded confused. “You sure everything is okay?” “Are you alone?” “Whoa now Y/N,” JJ laughed, and you rolled your eyes. “Let’s not get too frisky.” “I just want to talk to you, alright?” His laughter died down, and then he sniffled. “Yeah, yeah I’m alone. Pope just left.” “Alright.” You ended the call, then tucked your phone back into your pocket.
You hurriedly made your way across town, feeling slightly nervous, but just mostly frustrated. You couldn’t believe that you had gone so long putting up with Topper’s shit. You didn’t know what to do about him quite yet, but you had a pretty good fucking idea. “What’s the problem Y/N?” JJ teased, holding up his hands as if he was in trouble. As you neared him he wiggled his brows, and you shook your head at him, already preparing your apology. “Oh god,” you breathed, and he dropped his arms, tipping his head at you.
“What?” “I’m sorry,” you said, and then you pulled him into a hug, your hands wrapping around his neck. He didn’t do anything at first -- in fact he was rather rigid -- but then slowly he hugged you back, his chin settling on your shoulder. “What’s this?” He asked, and his breath was warm on your exposed skin. You pulled away, continuing to shake your head, and JJ dropped his arms to his sides, looking more confused than ever. “I just wanted to apologize,” you said. “You helped me on the beach and you taught me how to surf and you actually fucking talked to me and all I did was push you away. I’m sorry.”
JJ stared at you, his mouth hanging open slightly. He blinked, clearly shocked with what you had just said, and then he slowly ran his fingers through his hair, which you just then noticed was still damp. His surfboard wasn’t far behind him either. “Well,” he started. “It’s not a problem; there’s nothing to be sorry for. You didn’t do anything wrong Y/N, I was a bit of ass to… Topper.” He twisted up his face at the mention of your boyfriend, and unfortunately so did you. “He was the bigger ass though.” “Topper and I… I don’t think we’re gonna make it.” His name left a sour taste in your mouth, and you frowned. You had finally admitted it to yourself, and you knew that it was true. You had to end it, and sooner rather than later. “Really?” JJ asked, cocking his head to the side. “You finally realized what a fucktard he is?” You rolled your eyes, stepping back from JJ as you let out a heavy sigh. He watched you, and a couple drops of water dripped down from his hair and onto the sand.
“He’s controlling,” you mumbled, then plopped down onto the ground. You brought your knees up, and then rested your forearms on them, sighing again. “Yeah, I think everyone knows that,” JJ stated as if it was the most obvious thing in the world. It actually was, but you wished that it wasn’t true.
“I know,” you answered, chewing on the inside of your cheek. “I just… I always knew it but I never wanted to admit it because it made me look-” you frowned “- helpless.”
“It didn’t. Nobody thinks you’re helpless,” JJ said, sitting down beside you and mirroring your position. “Nobody thinks that.” You bit down on your tongue, then the inside of your cheek, thinking. “Maybe not helpless, but just like a pushover.” “Hey,” JJ warned, turning his head to give you a look. “You are not a pushover. You’re definitely not a pushover. Don’t you dare think you are.” You looked back at him, still chewing on your cheek. You weren’t even sure what you were to everyone else, but to you, you were just angry. “I’m just fucking fed up,” you said quickly, your chest falling heavily. “I’m just angry at Topper and at myself for not doing anything about him earlier. You know how many things were ruined because he said or did something stupid?” “Probably a lo-” “A lot of things,” you cut JJ off, but he didn’t seem to mind. He just nodded along. “And it just makes me mad because I’m normally not the type to let things slide, but I just wanted it to be easy, right? I didn’t want to make him upset because fighting is always messy and would hate it when I didn’t know if we were on good terms or not…” you trailed off, suddenly feeling overwhelmed. There were so many small things that you had overlooked because you just wanted Topper to stay with you. You knew it was wrong, but you also knew that it was unfortunately common for relationships. Topper was, after all, your first boyfriend.
“I think that’s common,” JJ said, as if he was reading your thoughts. “I mean I don’t know jack shit about relationships, but I’ve heard that they can get like that. Excusing shit ‘cause you don’t want to make it worse.” “Exactly. Or not wanting to cause a scene.” “Mhm,” JJ hummed. He lowered one hand down to the sand and subconsciously raked the grains through his fingers. You watched him do so; your eyes trailing from his hands to his face, where he looked out over the water, head swaying slightly. He glanced over, catching your eye, and you held his gaze for a moment before looking away.
“Have you talked to him yet?” JJ asked suddenly, cutting through the silence that had begun to fall over the two of you.
“About what?” You asked, dragging your fingers through the sand. “About breaking up?”
“Yeah.” “Sort of,” you answered, shrugging to yourself. “Kind of. Not really. I tried to tell him that things weren’t working anymore but he blew up at me; said I wasn’t trying hard enough to fix things and that I just was walking away from the problem.” JJ laughed. “I think that’s quite the opposite.” “I agree,” you snorted, shaking your head. A few pieces of sand lodged themselves up under your nails, and you frowned, picking them away. “Emerson told me that I should walk away; let him be the one to ask for forgiveness.” “And you’ll deny it?” “I think everything will be over before he gets the chance to ask,” you said, and JJ stared at you. This time he was the one to sigh, and then he raised his arm to grab your shoulder and shake you lightly. “You’ll get through it. You’re a bit of a bad bitch, you know that?” You laughed, looking back down at the sand. “Maybe.” “No you totally are. That shit you said to Rafe? That still sticks with me,” JJ said, dropping his hand from your shoulder and back down to the sand. “So badass.” He stood up suddenly, then wiped his palms on his shorts before offering a hand. You blinked at him.
“What?” You asked, and he gestured for you to get up. You gave him a funny look, but took his hand, the skin calloused and rough against yours.
“Come on,” he said, leading you over to his board, and you shook your head in confusion. You let your hand slip from his as he reached down to grab the board. “What are you doing?” You asked, drawing your brows together. “What does it look like I’m doing? We’re going surfing sweetheart.” Your jaw dropped slightly as he grabbed your hand and dragged you towards the ocean. A laugh escaped your lips as the cool water hit your ankles, and you tried to pull away, but JJ was persistent.
“JJ!” You laughed, slipping your wrist out of his grasp. “I’m not wearing the right shit!”
JJ looked at you, then down at his board, then out at the waves. He shrugged.
“So take it off.” You frowned at him, but a smile tugged at your lips. “I can’t do that.” “Those shorts look fine to me. Just take the top off.” You looked down at yourself. You had luckily worn your lululemon shorts, which you knew wouldn’t give you much of a chafe, but your bra was the problem. It was black, but it was slightly lacy and pushed up your boobs a little more than normal. There was nothing wrong with that, but something was just a bit more embarrassing when it came to your situation.
“I can’t,” you said, stepping back, and JJ gave you a look.
“Sure you can.” He waded back to the sand, then dropped his board down, his hands going up to cover his eyes. “I won’t even look.”
“You’ll see me after. I’m just not dressed properly-”
“I know you want to,” JJ mumbled from behind his hands, and you sighed, looking up and down the beach. It was a mostly secluded area that the two of you were in; only two houses up the shore, but the yards were littered with trees. It would be hard for anyone to see you.
You looked back at JJ, who’s eyes were still covered, and then slowly you peeled your top over your head, then kicked off your shoes. JJ kept his hands over his eyes until you were standing right in front of him, barely three inches away, and then he uncovered them. “You ready?” He asked, his eyes darting up and down your frame quickly before he turned around to grab his board.
“There’s only one board JJ,” you laughed, crossing your arms over your chest as you waded out into the water. JJ followed, and when you looked back at him he shrugged, shaking his hair out of his eyes.
“Well I believe we can manage, don’t you think so sweetheart?” He asked, and you giggled, turning away from him.
The water was up to your waist, and it chilled the skin of your stomach, sending goosebumps down your arms. You dipped your torso into the water until it was just hovering under your chin. Your fingers brushed the sand beneath you as you waited for JJ to wade out to where you were.
“You know, I think-” you had just started when a large wave crashed over your head, sending you under. You tumbled through the water, head over heels, and you only stopped when the sand grazed against your stomach, burning your skin. “Shit!” You laughed as you surfaced, and you could see JJ was struggling to bite back his own laughter.
“You gotta keep an eye out Y/N,” he called. “The ocean can play pretty fucking dirty.” “Oh yeah?” You called back, swimming over to where he was. In one swift motion you yanked the board out of his grasp, and then you pushed it along the top of the water, away from him. “The ocean isn’t the only thing that can play dirty!” You yelled, and then you slid yourself up onto the board, quickly dipping your hands into the water to swim away from him.
“Hey!” JJ yelled, but you were already spotting the perfect wave. You had no idea if you were going to be able to try any kind of trick with it on JJ’s board, but you were so full of adrenaline at that moment that you didn’t care; you would’ve done anything he asked you to. “Ten bucks if I can do a cutback!” You yelled out, and JJ just shook his head at you. “Five! And you have to do a bottom turn too.” “Eight!” “How about six, and a quick kiss?”
“Seven, and we’ll see,” you called, looking over your shoulder to time the wave. You sucked in a deep breath, and then right as you felt it beginning to pick you up, you got to your feet. The board certainly didn’t feel as steady as the one that JJ had leant to you before, that was for sure. You had also never actually successfully done a cutback before, but JJ had shown you multiple times, and you were feeling confident. Your curls were definitely getting better, and you wanted to ride out the thrill while it was there.
You sliced along the water, doing a short bottom turn so that you faced the water. You felt your balance slipping, but you held your core, trying desperately to stay on the board. Just as you were about to do the turn, you felt a wave of panic, and instead of cutting a crisp 180 along the wave, your foot slipped, and you fell backwards, the board kicking up into the air as you went down. When you surfaced again you heard JJ’s cheers, and he dashed through the water.
“Woo!” He yelled, and he grabbed you by your shoulders, shaking you lightly. “That was wicked!” “I didn’t even make my cutback,” you laughed, wiping your palm across your forehead to push the hair out of your eyes. “So?” JJ replied, his grin stretching even wider. “That shallow turn was so clean! You would’ve totally made it, I know it.” “Maybe if I try again,” you said, dipping your head as you smiled, the back of your neck going warm.
“Be my guest,” JJ said, sweeping his arm out towards the horizon. He still had one hand on your shoulder, and you didn’t really want to move it. His touch was warm; it felt different than Topper’s.
You sucked in another breath, then nodded at him. The surfboard’s leash tugged at your ankle, and you used it to pull the board back towards you, and then you were off.
The second time you fell, and then the third, and then the fourth. JJ cheered you on the whole time, and you were definitely feeling the support, but you were also feeling slightly defeated. “Shit,” you cursed after your sixth failed attempt. “It’s not fucking working.” “It’ll fucking work if you have a little fucking patience,” JJ said, pursing his lips and wiggling his eyebrows at you. “I know you’re an absolute God and everything comes easy to you… but this may take a little more time.” “JJ,” you whined, dropping your head back and sighing. Your chest heaved, and then you looked back at him. “Okay, I can do it.” “You can do it,” JJ assured you firmly, nodding his head enthusiastically. “You got this!” “I’ve got this,” you breathed, then slid down onto your stomach on the board once again. You spotted a fairly good wave in the distance, and you set yourself up, taking a couple deep breaths as you paddled ahead, waiting for the wave to rise. When it did you jumped to your feet, planting them firmly. You lowered yourself slightly as you glided across the wave, applying pressure to your back foot and dropping your hand to the water just as the wave peaked. Using all your upper body strength, you whipped the board around, making the 180 as the wave began to crash. Your jaw instantly dropped open, and you could hear JJ’s hoots and hollers before you even hit the water.
“Holy fuck!” He cheered, and as soon as you stood up he barrelled you over again, sending the both of you back into the water. “I did it!” You yelled, and his jaw dropped open as well as he nodded.
“You fucking did it!” He yelled back, grabbing your shoulders yet again. His eyes lit up as you grinned at him, feeling an overwhelming sense of pride. You had done it. All of that hard work had paid off.
“I couldn’t have done it without you,” you said, nudging him lightly before you reached down to pull the board towards you. “You’re the best cheerleader.” “Aw,” JJ cooed. “How cute.” You smiled at him, hugging the board to your hip as it continued to float in the water. There was a still moment between you and JJ, and he let his hands drop from your shoulders. “I expect my profit,” you said, raising your brows at him. “Don’t think I’ve already forgotten.” “And I expect something too you know,” JJ replied, and your smile faltered slightly, but you tried not to let it show. “You’re bold,” you commented, and a wave rocked you slightly as it passed underneath you. “Extremely cocky.” “I’m going to admit to that. 100%.” JJ grinned, and then he flicked his head at you. “So I’m waiting.” “I’m still in a relationship you know,” you said quietly, and JJ bit his lip. He then turned his head to the left, tapping his cheek. “Easy money, c’mon,” he said, a grin still on his face. You rolled your eyes, then sighed. Leaning in, your lips had barely grazed his cheek before he turned his head back towards you. His lips brushed yours, and you instantly pulled away, your cheeks going red, but JJ appeared entirely unfazed.
“JJ!” You hissed. You hated that you had expected that, and still done it anyway. “Easy money,” JJ repeated, then he lazily turned on his heel and waded back to shore. You sucked in a heavy breath before you followed him back to the sand, picking up the board and holding it in the crook of your arm.
Something twisted in your stomach, and you averted his gaze as you placed the board back on the sand. He shouldn’t have done that, he really shouldn’t have.
You shook your head at yourself, then leaned down to pick up your shirt. You had almost completely forgotten that you were only in your lacy bra, and you quickly pulled the top over your head, feeling your neck go warm. You could tell that JJ was watching you, but you avoided his gaze.
“You okay?” He asked, pulling his baseball cap over his damp hair. He placed a pair of black sunglasses on his nose, and then frowned. “Fine,” you answered, shaking your own head slightly. “I should talk to him.” “You should leave his ass,” JJ said, clicking his tongue. “That is what you should do.” “I will,” you said firmly, running the situation through your head. You had to be smart about it, but you also had to do it with enough punch that it would make Topper realize that he had truly hurt you. “You want me to come?” JJ asked, and you gave him a funny look, dropping your head to the side. You knew that he just wanted to help, but that was in no way going to make your situation any better. You had to do it alone. No JJ, no Rafe, no Emerson, just Topper and you.
“It’s okay,” you assured him, then gave him a slight nod. “I’ll be fine.” “You’ll be fine.” He nodded back at you. “You’re badass, remember that, okay?”
You gave him a smile, still feeling the warmth on your skin from where his lips had brushed yours, but you let it go. You had to let it go. You needed a clear mind, because you knew that there was hell waiting for you just across town, probably sitting in some plastic yard chair and drinking hours away, all while believing that there was nothing bad coming, but that was wrong. taglist: @tangledinsparkles @ponyboys-sunsets @heliopvth @dontjinx-it @jolomez @queen1054 @k-n-e @thewackywriter @alwayshopeless @ilymarkchan @dar3devils @jjsthumbring @nostalthicc @sspidermanss @poguelifeeee @mieczyslawmikaelsonn @maybebanks @itsriasblog @dolanfivsosxox @vnderoos @kaylinfayezink @imsad05 @sidon-and-sybil @alexa-playafricabytoto @uglygal123 @outrbank @toomanypeopleoutthere @annedub @jjmaybnks @hiddleless @ineedmorestyles @babyhoneystvles @lovelyfreshfestival @ravenclawmarvel @maddiebee2019 @ellystone @girlsru1eboysdroo1 @heimdoodle @yeahbutharrystyles @tutucrazy19 @certainstatesmantoadartisan @honeymendesx @rockyyc77
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i saw this post and IMMEDIATELY started writing an essay, so I moved it here so as not to clutter up someone else’s post...........
it absolutely blows my mind that, today in 2021, i honestly can’t remember what’s canon from the turnabout serenade case, what i read in a fanficition, and what is my own personal HC. like, it’s been more than a decade since i played the case for the first time and it’s probably been 5ish years since the last time i played AJ (definitely forgot to play it again before writing youngblood which is.... contributing to this) so i really don’t know if what goes on in my head is accurate, but, over the years, i’ve come up with a Lot of Thoughts, which i’ll discuss below. 
tldr; it’s all about power (the desire for, the subversion of, the need to maintain), but if you’d like the specifics, here you go:
daryan: i think the explanation that he did it for “the money” is a line. please don’t mistake me, daryan is an asshole and a murderer, im not discounting that, but in court ive always thought that he was playing the part that everyone- especially klavier- is expecting of him. he’s the bad guy. might as well make it a finale for the books.
i’ve always seen daryan and klavier as opposite sides of the same coin when it comes to family and career aspirations. where i imagine klavier came from a well off and well loved family before his parents died, i see daryan from a working class, difficult upbringing. i read a few papers on the psychology of children/parenting style of police officers and decided early on that daryan’s dad was also a cop. his mother is either dead or (more likely) left them early on. dad coped by working a little too hard, gambling/drinking a little too much, and was overall not around a lot and kind of an authoritarian/controller when he was. it left daryan with a lot of anger he had to cope with, about what it means to be a cop, the idea of a “just cause” and the ends justifying the means, and an issue with authority (which is laughable, considering what a bully he turned out to be. sometimes we emulate our parents unintentionally; it’s the only thing we have to model our behavior on). so daryan started off at a disadvantage. klavier started off loved and supported and surrounded by expensive belongings, but the death of his parents and the subsequent emotional and financial abuse by his newly appointed guardian/brother left him in a similar place by the time he and daryan met. i think it was probably the foundation for their bond, and i think it’s why klavier decided to become a prosecutor instead of following in his brother’s footsteps and why daryan ultimately decided to enter law enforcement as well. i think they had a lot of optimistic, idealistic thoughts on being better than the people that hurt them, on utilizing the law to make the world a better place. i don’t think klavier ever conceived that kristoph could have wanted him in the prosecutors office as another pawn to play, and i don’t think he realized how fluid daryan’s morality could be.
shipping alert—you guys know me, im crazy for the idea of a “best friends to on again off again lovers to tenuous coworkers to bitterly disappointed in but still harboring feelings for the other person despite being on opposite sides” dynamic between daryan and klavier. i honestly can’t separate the ship from the case and im sorry about it. if you read youngblood you know that i think daryan started to resent klavier pretty early on, when they were still together, when the band was still successful, because klavier was able to move forward and work through the issues of his past while daryan was seemingly stuck. yes, daryan had made detective and the gavinners were a hit, he’d risen above his initial social standing and thrown off the control his father, he had money and fame and a future. but everything he had was because of klavier. daryan needed klavier, emotionally, morally, financially. but even when klavier was professing his love for daryan, both privately and in the form of chart topping songs, he didn’t need daryan. it was obvious (and of course, healthy, but how do children of abuse learn what a healthy relationship looks like without help? especially when the only relationships you’ve ever had are codependent and, in some ways, just as toxic?) and so things spiraled. daryan got possessive and angry again and klavier got distant and they broke up and got back together and broke up and didn’t get back together but kept ending up back in each other’s arms for comfort and for support and because how the hell do you move on when the person you’ve been in love with since you were 15 is sitting next to you on a tour bus and is also your partner in a homicide case and singing songs he wrote about you on stage in front of thousands of screaming fans?
okay, shipping glasses off, sorry. but no matter how you look at their relationship, daryan’s promotion out of homicide was probably the most distance they’d had from each other in years, as it removed a large chunk of the daily “working relationship” aspect. and without klavier there to act as a moral compass, it was likely easier to slip back into his earlier thoughts about what constitutes justice and his intense hatred of being pushed around by someone who has more power than you. so enter the chief justice with a son who is sick, dying even, but can’t get the medicine he needs because there’s a government out there telling them no. The reasons are arbitrary: the medicine could be used as a poison and can’t be found anywhere else so it might come back to bite the country in the ass if it’s misused by criminals. newsflash: pretty much all medicine is poisonous if it isn’t used correctly, should we stop using penicillin entirely because some people might be allergic to it? they’ve essentially condemned a whole bunch of people to death because they’re worried about their reputation. and that doesn’t sit well with daryan, who is caught up remembering the bullshit justifications his dad would spout when he knocked him around, that kristoph would give when withholding every single penny of money klavier was entitled to until he agreed to do what kristoph wanted. it isn’t right, it isn’t fair and unfair laws shouldn’t have to be upheld, especially when they’re the unfair laws of a country you most definitely did not swear to uphold and protect. it was never about money, though daryan agrees to take it when the chief offers it to him, more for his comfort level than for daryan’s need or desire. it’s about justice and putting a bully in it’s place with a (seemingly) victimless crime that should be so easy given his role in the international division of criminal affairs and klavier’s sudden hard on for the country of borginia. seriously, how could this have been any more straightforward? daryan is capable of murder, though. all cops are. and if it came down to a “them or me” shootout, of course he’d pull the trigger. 
machi: when you come from nothing, the desire to have something of your own is overwhelming. the idea that machi is famous and financially set is disingenuous; he is not individually famous, he is Lamiroir’s “blind” pianist. yes, she views him as a son and seems to care deeply for him, but his main purpose in her life is to perpetuate a lie. machi has been abandoned before; what will happen to him if lamiroir suddenly remembers who she was in the past? what if she has a family and a true son of her own and has no use for him? what if their secret is found out and the public rejects him for his role in it? he is 14. what does he know about being provided for? about contracts and trust funds and royalties? he ended up in an orphanage originally because he was unwanted, and that led to a life of poverty and hardship. abandonment issues are rooted in fear and are rarely logical. i find it far easier to believe that machi did it for the money, but more for the power money might have given him towards independence in an unfeeling and capitalist world.
kristoph: i won’t get into this, because this is supposed to be about daryan and machi and the guitar’s serenade, and kristoph is not really involved in that at all. but i think everything that kristoph has ever done in the game, good or bad, is rooted in a pathological need to constantly be in control. i think that kristoph and klavier both have very intense personalities that they have sought to control over the course of their lives for the sake of their careers. kristoph believes that to be a good lawyer, you need to play your cards close to your chest, that to show your hand is to expose a weakness that the enemy can exploit, that to show no weaknesses at all places you in a position of power. klavier believes that to show his true self, to display his weaknesses and fears to the public, would result only in their rejection. as such, they both wear masks of their own creation even under the most intense of pressures: kristoph as pleasant and calm, klavier as magnetic and dynamic. note the primary difference in their rational? klavier wants to be wanted, while kristoph wants power. and power corrupts, after all. once you have it, what could be more overwhelming than the idea that you might lose it all? it can drive even the most rational people to commit acts of passionate irrationality in the name of holding on to that power. and kristoph has so many pieces involved in his strategy to maintain.  
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SnK Chapter 132 Results
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When we compare “Wings of Freedom” with other chapter results we’ve recorded, it comes in 25th out of 41, making it middle of the pack as far as ratings go.  Looking at the chapter on it’s own, however, it’s very well received with nearly 86% of the fandom rating it good (30.4%) or great (55.3%).
I think it was definitely just a classic aot chapter, had that plot that always had you on the edge of your toes, had the emotional moments, the momentary funny and bittersweet moments, 10/10 chapter
It couldn’t have gone any better besides Hange’s death :/
wish Floch got a little more screen time upon death but otherwise, awesome chapter.
It felt a little bit rushed but I enjoyed it nonetheless
It was so well executed yet so sad. I'm pride of our Hanji but feel so much distress thinking it's over for her.
It was a great emotional piece, and last moment before the true final battle begins. There’s no going back.
It was a good chapter but I would’ve liked if there was more dialogue between the alliance members
The deaths were rushed and poorly written
It was good, but alliance focused chapters are still a drop in quality.
It was a solid chapter and did what it aimed to do well, though I think it had pacing issues with the two deaths.
It had a little something for everyone. Except Zeke stans.
WE’LL GET TO THE GOODBYES IN A SECOND, BUT FIRST, WHICH OF THE FOLLOWING WAS YOUR FAVORITE MOMENT?
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Hange’s sacrifice was the moment that people liked the most at 30%, and seeing the old Survey Corp crew was a stand-out moment for 21%. Seeing Mikasa and Annie have an almost casual conversation brought joy to 12.1%, and Floch’s determination and brutal death were appreciated most by 11.6%.
I love the final shots of the scouts being shown in the afterlife. Ty Isayama
The little moments between the characters was great because it reminds us that they're still human.
The overall scene was legendary seeing Hange dying for her comrades and even in her last seconds she thought that she sacrificed herself in order for her comrades to live. That's what she thought a great commander would look like. That's why Hange was one of the best commanders of the Scouts.
Mikasa is such a boss, love seeing her fight and hopefully we'll get more big moments from her (as opposed to Levi).
Chad, King, hero. Every moment that Floch was in is a great scene.
I loved the Colossus slipping down the mountain
My favorite part is Kiyomi refilling coal with a shovel alone :)
  WHICH OF THE GOODBYES WAS YOUR FAVORITE 1,699 responses
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In a chapter filled with goodbyes it was Levi and Hange’s final moments that we found most endearing with close to 60% selecting it. “Please don’t make me choose” was a very distant second with 14.7%. Interestingly Annie and Reiner (10.4%) beat out Annie and Armin (6.5%) for third place.
i think isayama truly gave hange a great goodbye, and writing them still being cheerful and joking around made me feel so much more for their death.
It made me cry because of all the goodbyes. It reminded me of Erwin saying goodbye to the people inside the walls and people of the military. And his iconic “roar”. All of that before the battle.
Hange’s and Levi’s goodbye was very well done (that look in Levi’s eyes too, ouch), props to Isayama for breaking my heart.
The Reiner/Annie hug was all I could ask for, bless Yams.
I wanted a Levihan moment for this chapter and NOT a last levihan scene 😭
  WHO WAS THIS CHAPTER’S MVP? 1,700 responses
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Who else could it be? Hange Zoe is the chapter MVP according to two-thirds of all poll respondents. Floch (13%), Engineer-kun (3.4%) and Mikasa (2.6%) all got tiny slivers of the remaining pie.
Hange was truly the hero of this chapter and i'm so happy to have been witness to their characters journey over the years!
Hange is overall my second favourite character and I looked up to them. For me Hange is the true embodiment for the Survey Corps which is for Humanity and their courage, optimism and selflessness really made me love them so much.
Hange was a flawed commander. We all know this. They made mistakes like any other human being would when faced with the stress of a leadership position. They tried desperately to fill Erwins shoes but in the end accepted that they should be themselve. But overall Hange Zoe is an incredible person and I will miss them so
Best girl Mikasa rocked it this chapter with the way she swiftly killed Floch!
While I don't agree with some of Floch's beliefs, he died trying to save his home by slowing down the Alliance. Goodnight, sweet prince!
Floch did his best he anchored all the way from the beginning to the hangar with a bullet wound and that mustve hurt like hell all that salt water coming in
Someone please send me help I can't do this my family and friends got so worried because I've changed. They be like "Bro you've changed and I be like yeah Hange died bro what do you expect I'm in genuine pain you won't understand."
  HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT HANGE’S HEROIC EXIT? 1,701 responses
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Just over half of respondents loved the way Hange went out at 51.4%, and 26.5% liked it despite some quibbles. Not many of us saw it coming but it was at least emotional and a badass way to go. However, 9.6% hated it – there is an undeniable trend of every vaguely older character getting the chop. Who will poor Levi sit with in the retirement home with now?! 6.8% don’t really care about how the scene went. I suppose they’re the ones most prepared if no one in SnK gets to go to the retirement home.
A great ending to an amazing character, it's sad to see her go, but her time was up and she died fighting the creatures she loved.
I'm disturbed by how much it affected me
I loved it, but its not something i'll cry over.
I don't hate it but it did seem kinda unnecessary tbh could've been better
I STILL CAN'T STOP CRYING ABOUT IT. OPTION ONE IS GOOD BUT DOESN'T EXPRESS HOW MUCH THIS CHAPTER HURT ME.
It does break my heart,however the way and the time she do that, That was... Memorable
It happened too quickly for me to consider it perfect, but I'm glad she got to go out on her own terms.
Not heroic at all, she didn't even stop the colossals and was a cheap way for her to never face the consequences of her betraying the island
It was dope but Floch indirectly killed her so he takes that dub
I'M STILL CRYING ABOUT IT, SHE WENT OUT LIKE A FUCKING CHAMP
I'm super frustrated that she died, but she was heroic
She’s a traitor, nothing more to be said
i hated it. it was perfect. she really did go out with a bang and i hate it
Felt a bit pointless, would've loved to see some emphasize why it was crucial to kill these exact two titans. For me it looked like plain suicide
Had to go through the 5 stages of grief after that one, honestly. I was so angry immediately afterward because Hange is my favorite character of all time in any piece of media, losing them was almost like losing someone I've known and cared about for almost 7 years of my life. I've now come to accept that maybe death is the only happy ending any character can achieve in this story.
I don’t want to think about it
I don't like the idea of every Scout commander having a ""curse"" that they have to inevitably pay for with their lives. They're outstanding people and volunteers, just like their comrades, no one forced them to join.
  WHAT WAS THE ASPECT YOU LIKED MOST ABOUT HANGE’S LAST MOMENTS? 1,687 responses
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This question was fun to write but looking at the even distribution of selections, I suspect choosing an answer was difficult. Levi saying devote your heart to Hange was top pick with close to 30% selecting it. Retaining their sense of humor to the end (17.1%), being able to reunite with their old comrades (14.7%), having a moment of amazement while confronting the titans (14.4%), being able to die on their own terms and say goodbye (12.3%), stealing death from Reiner yet again (8.2%) and telling Armin he can boss Levi around (3.4%) were the other selections.
I really love Hange and when i see her died and see erwin and other old friends and morbit helping her i just cannot cry (sorry for my english im french ^^)
I was never a really big fan of Hange, but that exit was badass as hell.
It was a heroic death but it felt forced and unnecessary and she was my favorite character, so I'm extremely salty and in denial.
Hange seemed too eager to just die, like welp, i guess my contract is up, gotta go die.....It felt like when actors are written off a show
I never really considered myself a fan of her, but her death got me good. I think it was because how she marvelled and was genuinely amazed by titans, even in her final moments.
glad to see the old titan obsessed hange back before her final sacrifice
Most people seem to think that Hange's death was a bullshit ending, but I think that it was perfect, going out the way they were introduced.
To have hange say that titans are amazing before she dies was just perfect! It shows how she stayed true to herself until the end. And the part where she reunited with Moblit, Erwin, Mike and the others was so beautiful.
  WHAT WAS YOUR FAVORITE HANGE QUOTE THIS CHAPTER? 1,686 responses
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Hange really got to shine this chapter as we’re reminded of how off-kilter and fun they can be, even when the situation is at its most serious. We got a chapter chock full of memorable lines, but the favorite was of course “Titans really are incredible,” a call back to the reverence and respect for titans that made so many love the character to begin with.
"titans.. are truly incredible." was a fitting last(ish) words for hange.
  SO GOES THE 14TH COMMANDER OF THE SCOUTS, HANGE ZOE, FOLLOWING IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF THEIR PREDECESSORS. WHAT ARE YOUR FINAL THOUGHTS ON THEIR OVERALL LEGACY? 802 responses
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I think their legacy is one of grit and determination in the face of seemingly insurmountable odds. Not as revolutionary as say, Erwin, but they were perseverant and selfless, and innovative in their own right, as a scientist and researcher, always seeking new possibilities.
I will always remember Hange as our awesome scientist who came up with ideas for weapons! and was passionate about titans! and would stand up for a better comprehension of them instead of... whatever it is that Isayama made of Hange post-time skip that they no longer could shine about anything or would even reflect about what Eren was going through. Love you, Hange, you deserved that we followed your struggles more closely. <3
Hange became the commander in the most difficult moment and had bad times having to deal with politics, a whole new world and their own powerlessness. I think the Alliance is their most precious legacy and it really represents the old SC's spirit.
I adored seeing them go from loony scientist to a powerful and serious commander, even if it did come with a boatload of trauma. I also respect the hell out of them for being willing to watch their own culture destroyed if it meant not committing genocide. On a more personal note, as a nonbinary person it's just been really wonderful to see a character like Hange treated with such respect.
Amazing character and leader. Not on Erwin's level but she was a badass 😭😭 #rip
*you tried star*
A bit hypocritical. She was willing to stop Eren and endanger all Eldiana to save strangers from other nations that want to kill them. She also says killing is wrong, but proceeds to kill multiple Eldians unbothered, but when she sees Marleyans or people from other nations, she softens up.
Being a commander is not an easy job, and Hange's start was even more difficult because of Zeke annihilating like 90%(??) of the Scouts and the reveal in the basement and the crisis that followed. Still, she kept going, never giving up, even if she clearly had some moments of selfdoubt. I feel like Hange can be proud of herself and the life she lived, and I am happy that she was able go in her own terms. Her death bought them precious time, but it was a great loss as well. I feel a bit empty and wistful...
Brilliant character, brilliant way to let them go. I’m most interested to see how this death will effect Armin and his leadership as they alliance approach the founding titan. I’m also glad we got to see them in the afterlife, that was a bittersweet comfort.
Every commander dies young, rip armin
Hange was annoying. Glad they're dead.
Hange was incredible in their own field of interest, but definitely not fit to be the commander. Loved how they could be themself once again at the end.
Followed in Erwin's footsteps and even went beyond. Hange will be remembered as the commander who took Paradis from the titans and who explored beyond the island for the first time in 100+ years. Plus a rational commander, putting facts and science before everything else, as well as grasping how important diplomacy and politics are even beyond Paradis. Also although quirky, an example of tolerance.
Fuck that.. Their death was worthy of them.. it was a very sweet goodbye.. But I really thought they would make it to the end... And I really wanted them to. Hange was such an important character, they did so much for the cause and for everyone. They were someone who could be trusted but who didn't hesitate to do what had to be done. Incredibly smart and humbled, I just wish they believed in themselves a bit more.. cus they are incredible.
Hange was given a shit-circus to try and handle- complete with clowns, children causing mayhem, and a giant fucking monkey.
Her "gEnOcIdE iS wRoNg" quote with no actual solution in 126 really turned me off for her for a while as a character; overall however, Hange was one of the more memorable and likable characters from the series and it's sad to see her go.
Given the difficult job of rebuilding the Survey Corps after its destruction with very little help. Had to deal with the wannabe hegemon in Zackly who was doing lots of underhanded power grabs in the background. Had to deal with a populace who finally realized they were not alone. Had to deal with a moody weapon known as the Attack titan who knew all the answers but shared it with no one. Poor Hange who was never given a chance for victory
Hange was amazing character that got entirely too much flack for not being a "good commander" This is a character that above all stayed true to themselves in what they fought for and believed in.
Hange Zoe spat on the legacy of the scouting league by squandering their sacrifice to protect their families and communities. Hange's actions if successful will likely lead to the deaths of all their families which is something they would never support.
Considering how we never truly knew if Erwin was totally devoted to humanity or totally selfish, and considering Shardiz' inferiority complex, Hanji was the true one who gave her whole being to humanity and who truly embodied Survey Corps' abnegation, without any regard toward such senseless conception like homeland. No wonder why the title of her final battle is "Wings of Freedom"
Legendary commanders, each one going out with with a bang. Erwin going out by distracting Monke and Levi taking him out. Hange going out by taking care of a few Bert ripoffs, having the alliance survive a few more hours. And Armin, wait-
Hange helped the main characters in the story with her quick thinking and managed to put the missing pieces into place for us. Their different outlook on the whole situation gave us a fresh perspective and there’ll be no one else like them.
hange is great!!! too bad she tortured bean and sawney tho and sannes smh but 10/10 regardless love that mad scientist
Hange embodied the spirit of the survey corp. She was the commander that made unlikely alliances and advanced Paradis infrastructure.
Hange has been one of my favorite characters. They are the best Titan Scientist. RIP.
Thank you Hange, you did great 💖
  FLOCH FINALLY GOT THE GLOCK. OR ACTUALLY, THE ANCHOR. WHAT DID YOU THINK OF HIS LAST HURRAH? 1,660 responses
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Let’s not forget that Hange wasn’t the only major death in this chapter.  After months of being voted most likely to die, Floch’s time finally came.  About 30% of respondents are just celebrating that he’s finally dead, a quarter are glad he’s dead but got this last fun scene, and 20.4% are glad he was able to screw with the alliance once more before dying.
🦀🦀🦀FLOCH IS DEAD🦀🦀🦀
A fitting ending for an interesting, yet very unpleasant character. Love how his death was contrasted with Hange's, and the fact that Mikasa was the one to off him (the symbolism of the person who represents Eren's humanity killing the person who keeps referring to him as the devil is... well, not subtle but it can't be ignored).
Could have done more, but he never wavered or lost his convictions, more of a hero than any of the alliance will ever be
he should have been dead since 129, makes no sense
He should've stayed on the island and failed
Died a hero, wouldn’t even beg for his life but for his friends and countrymen instead
Even though I didn't really like him, I have my full respect to him for following his beliefs till his last breath
Floch is one of the best characters, and most complex characters, he got a very good ending.
I love eren’s boyfriend ♡
He died a hero's death after carrying chapters 124-130 on his back. He also did nothing wrong.
He's a mega chad and I love him. Managing to survive underwater for 2 days and slowly losing blood, and then shooting the ship to stop the Alliance, and then having a bomb-ass speech? He was a legend that needs to be appreciated more.
His arm should've been blown off to begin with and even if it wasn't, he should've died from hypothermia. I think it was needed drama, but done poorly.
His death was far better executed than I thought. He shot the fuel tank instead of one of the SC or one of the engineers/Onyankopon. That should tells you that he just want them to stop, not killing them all. He stays true to his belief of saving Paradis by following Eren, even in his last words he is pleading for Paradis' instead of his own live. From someone whose country has been colonized once, I say that is a true soldier for his nation.
Oh fuck off floch, he was a dick with volatile ideals anyway. Fuck that guy honestly. Like I agree with his stance but like. Everytime it feels oddly implanted when he has an opinion, like he does think with his own head but gets influenced very easily into changing sides too fast? Like, he does the right things but jot for the right reasons because he doesn't really think them through enough? That's my vibe. Idk. Ignore all my answers I feel stupid
RIP Hero of Paradis. To save your civilisation is an admirable goal, although it being achieved through genocide is still morally wrong
I'm sad he didn't get to know how Eren used him.
  FLOCH FORSTER WAS A COMMANDER IN HIS OWN RIGHT, FIGHTING HIS WAY UP FROM HIS ORIGINS AS A BACKGROUND CHARACTER. ANY OVERALL THOUGHTS ON THE BIRD NEST BOI AND HIS IMPACT ON THE STORY? 912 responses
Best boy. Fly high you little devil :(( <3
a bitch but i respect the fact that he did what he believed in (even if its genocide😕)
Controversially, I have no opinion on him.
Ding dong the witch is dead
A character that was perfectly written for his purpose. AoT World isnt black and white and he showed us. Pain and loss made the Floch that died in 132. but Eldia and Marley made the Floch that survived to see all his comrades dead.
Floch is shit :) but also is a good character because its represents a real human.
A complete and satisfying character. It's not easy to summarize, but the way he went from a naive gloryhound to a single-minded guy trying to make his own survival/the deaths from the charge mean something while still remaining a relatively normal, unremarkable soldier was great. Also, I appreciate how he, Eren, and the Yeagerists basically reenacted Uprising by overthrowing a regime that would've just continued the royal family-eating and messed around until the island got destroyed. The prediction from Sannes all those years ago turned out to be too accurate, unfortunately.
A lot of people did hate Floch, I didn't. I think adding Floch to the story was just as essential as the other supporting characters. He played out a good and effectively annoying enemy. I think in every Action-thriller story, a Floch is a must as a villain. The hate on Floch reminded me of the hate on Joffrey from Game of Thrones. But Joffrey did have a great impact on the story, so did Floch. The way he was written just really did manage to get on our nerves, and I think that's what makes a character great.
A true patriot.
An asshole but at least he went out feeling like a rounded character
An nazi ass bitch
Based and Redpilled
Best character not named Eren or Erwin.
By far exceeded expectations.
Disagree with his agenda, but he's a very real character and a representation of the monster someone can become when driven by survivor's guilt and trauma.
He was the literally epitome of a roller coaster ride.
Floch always felt like a background character, and even though he gets far more to do than other background characters, he never felt like an actual person but rather just a plot device. He has no personality.
Floch was surprisingly good given he was such a minor character. He fully displayed the shades of gray of the narrative.
Heck him >:(
Floch has always been someone who held an opposing view to the main cast, and his entire arc revolved around his need to "bring back the devil" in order to ensure the safety of his land and his people. Some people seem to have forgotten that, but at his core he never changed. Sad to see him go out like this.
Floch has my respect for fighting until the very end (and even after the end since we all thought he'd been killed by Gabi) for what he believes in, but obviously it is not what I and my favourite characters believe in, so I'm glad he's gone. His impact is great as he earned the title of "most tenacious villain ever" when he only really started as a coward rookie soldier many chapters ago. Also props to him for holding onto this boat for such a long time and being up for a fight after probably being hauled in the sea and swallow more water he ever had his entire life.
The panel of him shushing Hanji will always be iconic. His descent into nationalism (new Eldian empire, anyone?) however, was not so cash money"
When Floch had captured Miss Kiyomi (ch. 128) he dismissed what she said and had his speech about ‘it’s important to know your place’, and then not even a minute later he was taken down by this same old lady smh. Previously, he wanted to kill Onyankopon and Yelena, but Jean deceived him and he failed. Later, he wanted to kill someone on the boat, but Gabi shot him and he failed. He wanted to stop the alliance, but Mikasa got him with her anchor and he didn’t just fail, he died. I’ve seen some readers applaud him for fighting for what he believes in and having a strong will, but they don’t see what else there is. Strong will? Not giving up? So many characters have the same traits in AoT. The difference is that Floch repeatedly never achieved what he wanted to accomplish, despite his strong will and belief to not give up. His determination and willpower made him achieve nothing. By contrast, Hange’s will and determination to keep fighting made her kill about 2-4 colossals and save her allies just in time for them to get away. Is the difference obvious enough? Their deaths are even put in the same chapter. Floch was not important, admirable, or whatever you want to praise him like. He kept interfering with the alliance and for what? He simply never knew his place.
He played a larger role than I ever thought he would and became one of the most interesting characters during this time. I’m glad he was here to push the story along, and I’ll miss him.
His fans are insufferable but he is a needed counterbalance to the alliance characters and stuck to his beliefs to the end.
He started up as a fodder and ends up as one of the biggest threats for SC. I might be in the minority when I said I already like him since pre time skip. He showed us how the war is like from the perspective of a normal soldier, not the talented ones who got into the 10 top ranks. Just a normal soldier who was inspired by the words of his leader to devote his heart, and came to a realization that it's an actual hell, just like reality. Maybe he's wrong to vent about choosing Armin instead of Erwin when Armin was feeling down, but I can understand. All his friends died, he's currently having emotional and survivor trauma over the suicide charge, and all of those sufferings came to a waste because of the people in front of him.
Pee pee poo poo
Good riddance. What a worthless pile of garbage.
Goodnight sweet prince
  ARMIN WANTS TO BRING ALONG THE LEFTOVER EXPLOSIVES. HOW WILL THEY BE USED? 1,638 responses
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Chekov’s explosives are now in play.  37.7% of you think they’ll be used to try to blow Eren out of his nape, and 33.7% think they’ll definitely be used for another suicide mission.
Another failed suicide attempt by Reiner
Any of the above, depending on the situation. I think Armin isn't really thinking of anything in particular, simply that having the option to explode something is better than not.
Armin could use them as a suicide necklace to threaten Eren. If Eren still cares for Armin he may stop the rumbling if he knows it will stop Armin from killing himself and possibly Mikasa.
dude there's been so many unexpected turns and plot twists right now I really don't want to make any assumption. But the plane idea is interesting.
i still think armin will fight eren with his colossal titan. I can only hope for something truly epic.
I think they'll be used for more than one of the above
Idk, but for sure they want to damage Eren's Titan to buy some time in doing something
If Eren doesn’t comply I’d assume they will be used to destroy his “nape” if they can even find it. Someone probably has to go on a suicide mission to do so.
Kamikaze Onyankopon like its written all over the poor fellas face,
Levi will suicide bomb Zeke to cut off Eren's connection to paths
make my brain explode hopefully since this plot is ridiculously bad
Only Armin (and Isayama) knows how the explosives will be used. I'm sure it will have something to do with stopping Eren.
Plan A: Blast Eren nape, but it will fail so Plan B: Kamikaze
Reiner will try to use the bombs to commit suicide and take Eren with himself
they'll probably kaboom zook with that idk (I missed my monke so so much)
They will be as useful as farting on Eren.
  WHAT DID YOU THINK OF MIKASA AND ANNIE’S CONVERSATION? 1,665 responses
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Mikasa and Annie have a heart to heart near the start of the chapter, after being rivals early in the story.  The two most popular options were being in awe of the cuteness when Armin became the topic, at 34%, and just loving seeing these two characters interact, at 31.3%.  17.5% are wondering how they made the switch to friends so quickly, 9.5% view it as rehashing what’s already been talked about, and 7.8% are more interested in that Mikannie action.
Mikasa's reaction was so cute after realizing Annie has a thing for Armin.
The chapter was also surprisingly humorous, with Mikasa's reaction to learning Annie likes Armin having me burst out laughing.
The sudden closeness between Alliance members who used to be enemies, such as Mikasa/Annie, feel forced and unearned, and the extra Armin/Annie shipping is just unnecessary and a waste of panels when we are so close to the ending yet many things still need closure.
Aruani😍
Mikasa and Annie's conversation almost made me gag because I feel so sorry for Annie having to put up with the constant misunderstanding of her feelings. Annie is aromantic and Mikasa needs to sit down and respect that fact quite like Armin himself does.
I legit laughed out loud when reading Mikasa and Annie's chit chat. At 1 AM.
  MIKASA TELLS ANNIE SHE HAS KEPT THE SCARF WITH HER. WHAT DO YOU THINK HER PLAN IS? 1,662 responses
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The scarf has become an actual plot point as of late, with Louise stealing it and now this.  Will it be important for the end game?  45.1% of you believe Mikasa will use it to try to see if the Eren she used to know, who gave it to her is still in there somewhere.  29.1% of you don’t think she has any particular plans as of yet.  15.2% think she’ll comfort Eren in it once they stop him, and 10.5% are putting their money down on the “She’ll use it to strangle Eren” option.
Mikasa need to understand the Eren she remembers is no longer coming back from this.
Mikasa is really a frustrating character... but I think it's on purpose that she keeps swinging from realizing who he really is (chapter 123) and still wanting to be with him (or rather the idealized version she has of him aka the ""old Eren""), because her whole character arc is to separate herself from Eren and coping with it."It's up to Mikasa whether or not she'll be a slave. If she decides to fight against her slave instincts, Eren will have no choice but to kill her since, as an Ackerman, Mikasa, is immune to the memory-fuckery.
In fact, Mikasa should just hang herself with Eren's scarf and the story would become infinitely better and women might finally have better representation. I have never liked Mikasa, but now I actively despise her. She is nothing more than an Eren simp as was revealed to us when she said she's still holding onto that threadbare rag of hers despite everything Eren has proven himself capable of doing. You know, that whole genocide thing that Mikasa herself barely survived in this very chapter while her Commander very much did not. "
I feel tired of people who make fun of Mikasa. She is the one who still believes in Eren's good side and doesn't see him as monster. Everyone else see Eren as devil, while Mikasa still keeps memories about kind Eren and believes that this "old Eren" still is somewhere there. He is the most important person in her life and she will not give up on him as fast as everyone think. She is not obsessed. She is aware of Eren's dark side, of his cruelty and everything he has been doing, but on the same time she will still keep trying to help him and show him that he is NOT the devil, he is not as horrible person as he thinks he is. Everyone are saying that HISTORIA saved him in the cave when he was in his dark moments. Maybe this time it will be Mikasa who will save him from his darkest nightmare.
I can't wait for Eren × Mikasa confrontation "
  WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN WITH THOSE ON THE BOAT? 1,653 responses
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The party has split in two, with one half going directly to Eren, and the other half…?  Nearly half of you think that they’ll certainly end up doing something to help the alliance still.  21.8% think they’ll run into the survivors of Liberio, 17.9% think they will in fact be absent for most of the story no, and 11% think they’ll dock at Paradis and do something of import there.
Please isayama, please don’t add any more needless sideplots with the boat doing something
Could have done many alliance interactions/good-byes better. Reiner didn't seem to care for the kids, despite them being his motivation to live. Bert never mentioned. Annie/Armin had no discussion. What are the boat crew even going to do?
"Falco & co. WILL join the battle! At least he has to, because the Jaw Titan is the only one who can break through the Warhammer's hardening!
With them leaving Falco behind (and therefore the Jaw titan's power), I think the explosives may at some point be used if Even tries to shield himself using the Warhammer's power.
Anyone that thinks Annie, Falco and Gabi sailed off is an idiot.
The only thing I'm not too sure about is Annie, Gabi, Falco, Yelena and Kiyomi staying behind. I was every character to have their chance to shine in the final battle. Hopefully, Isayama will find a way to bring these characters back into the conflict.
  WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT LEVI EQUIPPING HIMSELF FOR BATTLE? 1,661 responses
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After being blown up and almost out of the story a year and a half ago, Levi is finally suiting back up to get a slice of someone or something, despite still being heavily injured and scarred.  Almost half of the fandom, at 44.6% are excited for his upcoming role in the story, but find it hard to believe he’s ready to fight, as it hasn’t quite been a year and a half in their world.  About a quarter, at 23.2% have been waiting for this moment to finally come for all that time.  15.1% want him to stay away from danger the way he has been, and 9.2% wish he would have just died all those chapters ago.
Kinda silly, but I'll roll with it.
Now that we know Levi is ready for battle, I think his role in the story at this point is for one final confrontation with Zeke (assuming Zeke is within Eren's Founding Titan body somewhere). There, Levi will kill Zeke once and for all to finally fulfill his promise to Erwin, but something tells me Levi will die shortly after he lands the killing blow on Zeke.
Beast Titan vs Levi Round 3
Can't wait till he's forced to team up with Zeke
He will go out in a blaze
Definitely going out with a bang. He’s done with life, it’s obvious he is just here now to complete an objective, he wants to go out strong because of the weight of the survey corpse members gave him. Everyone he has cared about has died. He wants make them proud in a sense, at least dying with pride, and finally getting to meet them again in the afterlife.
I think he should have died in the explosion BUT I think that to do that, he should have had a longer philosophical talk with zeke and overcome his erwin issues, AND THEN die
He’s survived this long- he’s definitely earned the rights to go out on his own terms.
His comeback to fight is just another asspull.
How can he even move, let alone fight? If he survives all of this I’ll be shocked.
I can only see a Pyrrhic victory. I'm scared.
Isayama still has the chance to have Levi die by Eren's hands. The entire story has been leading up to this. Levi was always right about Eren and the sweet irony is that Levi always fought and saw all of his comrades die for Eren only to get killed by Eren as well.
I don't know why people are angry at that. Levi is a soldier and is not a suicidal one. He has a definite role to play and I don't want him to sit around. He's been through much worse.
He is a liability, I don't see him surviving.
-Death flag initiated-
He ain't surviving this one, huh?
Good that he’s feeling better. But I don’t want him to die.
He’s going to make a final charge and die
The man can barely stand on his own, so I think fighting is pretty much out of the question. Really interested in seeing what a character who has always relied first and foremost on violence is going to do now that this has been taken away from him.
As a good commander (and letting annie stay) Hange or Armin had to tell him to stay in boat, like he s only going to kill himself against zeke if he crossed him
He'll be fine...right? RIGHT?!
he'll probably die in a suicide attack on the monke
I feel like this may be a death-sentence. Levi dying and finally getting the burden of killing Zeke off his chest is a likely/ and good way for his character arc to end.
I just hope he doesn't have a cliche death alongside Zeke.
He'll rest with his comrades soon
He will get more injured, then give a speech to mikasa about letting the man he loved die instead of becoming a monster, then he will die
Watching him makes my anxiety level raised to 100
He's gonna give monkey chan a thousand years of death two finger style
Please just let him rest, he's tired, I'm tired, we're all tired ffs
  YELENA IS HOLDING FAST TO HER BELIEF IN THE EUTHANASIA PLAN AS THE ONLY WAY TO PEACEFULLY END THE CONFLICT. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ZEKE’S PLAN IN HINDSIGHT? 1,620 responses
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While the plurality of fans acknowledge Zeke’s plan is better than Eren’s (at 48.2%), only 7.7% say they agree in hindsight, and 5.8% always agreed with Zeke, for a combined 13.5%.  This makes a total of 61.7% who would vote for it over Eren’s plan today.  Interestingly, when Zeke’s plan was first revealed in 114, 76% voted for his plan when given the choice between that and rumbling the world.  So after seeing the rumbling, the support for Zeke’s plan as an alternative has actually dropped.
I get it, Yelena’s something of an ideologue but the fact that she still thinks euthanasia is the way to go is sad
I originally thought forced euthanization was disgusting and now I’m hindsight it’s still disgusting and solves nothing.
I still hate it. The lesser evil doesn't mean it's an optimal solution. Would've kept Kiyomi's plan by sacrificing Historia and only attacking the military forces to keep them at bay.
Thinking with logic only, Zeke had a good plan, but if we put emotions and moral in to play, it's just horrible. I don't support it, not even now.
It's a terrible plan. Eren's plan is evil AF, but it's not stupid. Zeke's plan it's stupid. Imagine throwing your entire nation under the bus because your dad didn't hug you? Zeke's a loser.
Maybe so in this messed up world, but then again no. Both plans are awful, the answer to solving this question was to stop hatred in the first place and find a way to have a conversation with everyone. Clearing the air, stopping the rumors and fake news regarding Eldians being devils, etc.
Both plans are shit. 50 year plan + a partial Rumbling (in other words probably Armin's choice) is the most logical plan.
Denying children being born is denying a human being to grow and live their own live, and experience the world. I never accepted Zeke's plan and never will.
Depends whether you were born in Paradis or outside of Paradis.
Eren's plan is better. It ensures Eldians can survive and continue to grow. Zeke's plan just makes them die out. Me no likey.
50 year plan gang 50 year plan gang
Both plan suck.. But everything fair in love and war so...   The winner was the one who right
There has to be some third option we/they just can't think of that doesn't involve genociding the entire planet *or enslaving another young woman (Historia in this case)
Zeke's plan was the lesser evil OF THESE TWO (Rumbling and Euthanasia). They should have found a third, peaceful option that doesn't kill anyone off.
“Evil is evil, Stregobor. Lesser, greater, middling, it's all the same. Proportions are negotiated, boundaries blurred. I'm not a pious hermit, I haven't done only good in my life. But if I'm to choose between one evil and another, then I prefer not to choose at all.”
  JEAN SEEMED RATTLED BY FLOCH’S FINAL WORDS. HOW DO YOU THINK THEY WILL AFFECT JEAN? 1,641 responses
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We’ve seen Jean yearn for a peaceful life on Paradis, and Floch has tried to convince him to give in to that desire before.  Did Floch’s dying words do anything to further affect Jean?  About 69% of respondents say that we will see Jean think on them, but he’ll end up staying with his current convictions.  Interestingly, among the 17.8% who think he will change his mind on helping the alliance, 12.9% think he’ll join Eren and actively oppose the alliance, vs. the 4.9% who think he’ll just abandon the mission like Annie.
After 127 no way is Jean leaving the Alliance. However, I think this will affect his resolve and affect whatever discussion they end up having over how to stop Eren.
Dies trying to avenge Mikasa
He was rattled by Floch's dying moments, as he was one of the last survivors from the Survey corps of Erwin's time
He'll single-handedly stop Eren by telling him how cringe his followers are
he's gonna hesitate when he shouldn't have and will die for it
I feel like it's not the words, but the actions--Floch is who Jean could have been if he didn't see past his own self-interest.
Floch died so his homeland could live. His noble death will inspire Jean to fulfill his duty as a soldier of ELDIA, and oppose the alliance. Thus, Floch will have helped Eldia one last time. Even after he died.
He's too coward to do something about it. Jean's arc was all about suppressing his own desires and keep moving forward; he's a slave of his sense of duty.
I smell another sacrifice coming.
I think it's too late for him to change his mind at this point. We're almost at the end. He'll move forward because that's what he promised Marco. He won't be able to look him and his comrades in the eye if he alters his stance.
  WAS ARMIN THE BEST CHOICE AS COMMANDER? 1,639 responses
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From Keith to Erwin, to Hange to Armin.  Was that the right step to take in the line of succession?  The majority, at 61.8% believe that Armin is the perfect choice, at least for this particular Eren scenario.  Just over a quarter, at 26.5% are sticking with Marco saying Jean has the potential to lead.  11.7% are wishing Hange stayed in command instead.
I didn't like the way Hange died and how she left the commander role to Armin. He's probably the worst person to take the job, not long ago he was literally trying to kill himself (chapter 126) cause that's how insecure he is.
"I both believe Jean makes a better overall commander than Armin *and* that Hange's choice in this instant was the correct one.
Jean has more of a skill and flair for leadership. He is, as Marco once said, the every man which makes it easier to follow him. With his attitude, he can inspire others to follow his plans even if they do not closely know him. He also has some more confidence in himself. He doesn't have Armin's mind for crazy strategies, but he still can reasonably think of his feet and is willing to take hard decisions and sacrifices as they are needed. If the story was still like it had been earlier in the manga, with a big Survey corps and regular missions, he should be the commander.
People are arguing who ""deserved"" to be the commander between Armin and Jean, when it doesn't fucking matter because there are like 5 people left in ""old"" SC and they are all on a suicide mission. What *does* matter is that everything was pushed on poor Armin yet again, first Erwin was allowed to die and his legacy was put on him and Hange, who never asked for this, now Hange killed themselves too and left Armin to solve this shit by himself. I wish he would call out Levi, because his decision in Serumbowl is what led to this mess, but we'll probably not get that.
Jean shouldve be the commander but it's okay to be armin
Either Hange should've lived or Jean should've been the commander
Armin becoming Commander was probably the highlight of this chapter for me
I thought it was a good death for hange, but also kind of a combo of all of the above choices; their death seemed rushed just to make armin commander. I don’t hate armin, but I don’t think he should be commander, and it feels so much like isayama had NOTHING planned for hange ad commander, which was extremely disappointing. but at least hans is at peace lol
Armin as commander? Really? He has never really led troops in to battle. He is not a logistician or a tactician. He is only a good strategist, but even then he failed to plan for everything that Eren has so far done. Can you imagine him turning into a titan and attempting to direct everyone? He’ll kill them all or put them on fire by waving his arms. I’m so worried for him and for Jean too. Jean is suppose to be the next commander or why else is he even here?
A bit sad we didn’t get much time with her a commander, but she was a GOAT
A "You Tried" commander that was truly ineffective. Erwin should've been kept around.
Each Survey Corps Commander (current or former) all dedicated their hearts to protect humanity. If someone or something threatens their mission and their lives, they do what is necessary to uphold the mission, mainly giving up their lives in order to give time for their comrades to act. Their sacrifices affect their closest allies to the point that they have to carry on their mission by any means necessary.
Felt like a filler commander for Armin wish Hange had gotten to do more and be more successful
1- Armin isn't the new commander of the survey corps because the SC belongs to Paradise island and he & his group betrayed that place .
2- Armin is the new commander of the alliance .
Not sure of making Armin commander the best choice but mmm yeah, Isayama needed them out of the way to make a final Armin/Eren confrontation *sigh*
survey cops commander is the worst position you can find yourself at the moment. I can't even imagine what's on Armin mind right now
Armin does actually make the better leader. The problem in front of them is Eren. Even though he doubts himself right now, Armin has always been able to understand Eren and get through to Eren in a way others (and definitely not Jean) can't. He's also capable of thinking outside of the box in a manner that this situation needs. Though he's only now made commander, throughout the Rumbling arc, we've already seen that his closest friends look to him for leadership/plans. And while he still lacks self-confidence (though, who knows, maybe he'll get a special Levi talk??) a lot of his other leadership flaws (like his limited ability to command and inspire groups) are not relevant now because there isn't huge group of people anymore. There is just a handful of his friends left who already trust in his abilities. He doesn't need to inspire loyalty right now; that has already been built over years.
Narratively speaking the Alliance are the true successors of the SC, not the Jaegerist and the 15th commander is Armin, not Floch.
Hange should've stayed alive.
king jean commander jean ftw
  COULD SOMEONE ELSE HAVE TAKEN CARE OF THE COLOSSALS IN PLACE OF HANGE? 1,621 responses
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We’re losing a lot of veterans lately and suddenly.  After Magath and Keith’s sacrifice a few chapters ago, was Hange’s necessary as well?  The vast majority, at just over ¾ say that others could have technically taken the role, but Hange was still the best choice to stay behind, as morale would be drained much more by the commander sending others to their deaths.
A mix between love and hate. With Shadis' death (specially after Nile and Pixis) I thought that Isayama was judt getting rid of a veteran again. But Hange's death at least had her in character, and she was the one who deserved to see her comrades the most.
At first it was nice to see them sacrificing themselves but then I noticed i didn't really care much. It was too sudden and a copypaste of Magath's death
Hange died because the situation called for it. She did what she had to do because of Floch. I feel like the anime will make it much clearer that Hange HAD to die.
Shoulda been Reiner bruh
I think Armin could use his titan, stand on the water and push avery titan that was going to destroy the Angar but anyway
Shadis' death left a bad taste in my mouth since Magath could've handled the deed on his own. Shadis didn't need to die. Hanji too could've sent someone else in her stead; she is (was) the commander, a veteran, she was necessary. Not saying that I would've wanted Jean or Connie to die or anything, but sending one of these two or Mikasa to hold back the titans would've made sense.
  WHAT IS THE TRUTH BEHIND THE SCENE WHERE HANGE MEETS THE DEAD SCOUTS? 1,649 responses
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The scene where Hange, after having died, seems to wake up to meet the rest of the deceased Survey Corps members was a scene unlike any we’ve seen before in this manga. Isayama hasn’t shied away from the depressing reality of death before, so what exactly is happening here? 45.9% of respondents think it was strange enough that something real was happening, Paths, afterlife… something. 30.3% don’t buy it being real and think it was a symbolic scene, perhaps to lessen the pain of Hange’s death. 23.8% think it was purely in Hange’s mind, a euphoric experience to lessen the physical shock of death. Whatever it was, it was remarkable.
Purely symbolic, though I don’t mind if it has to do with Paths
The comrades scene its a metaphore of the relief she had sacrificing herself, being useful just like her comrades and friends before her.
Probably Valhalla, would be pretty badass if it was confirmed in the end to actually be Valhalla or something.
THE AOT AFTER LIFE  IS REAL AND MY BBYS LIVE AGAIN 🤧😭
The author was trying to Placate the audience over killing off a popular character
The characters that died may have their happy ending in heaven
The dead comrades have always been watching over the living.
We only see Eldians, it very well could be a connection to Paths. And it seems like the people you go to are people you knew well and had a strong connection with. ALSO I'M HAPPY WE GOT A GLIMPSE OF SASHA and seeing Erwin for most likely the final time is cool too.
Afterlife real. Dead characters keep on living. Shifters go to PATHS, probably. Expect a specific someone to appear :)
Delusions of a naive and idealistic character. Hange saw what Hange wanted to see.
Dunno, but i REALLY hope that was just Isayama softening the blow for Hanji fans and what not, otherwise having a true afterlife would render all deaths and racrifices pointless and would ruin the whole theme of survival the manga has.
Eren may be using PATHS fuckery to comfort Hange in her death.
I believe the final scene did happen as Instructor Keith is seen in the back and Hange should have no knowledge of his death.
I don't think Isayama particularly cares for fan service in any regard (though Annie x Armin might signal a change), so I don't think he'd dedicate that to make Hange's death any less tragic. I think there's something to it.
  NOW THAT WE’VE SEEN THAT IT’S POSSIBLE FOR OUR DEAD FAVORITE CHARACTERS TO STILL HAVE THEIR SOULS, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE REST OF THE STORY? 1,621 responses
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If these ghostly figures do make another appearance in the final confrontation, what on earth will they do?! 43.1% say they don’t matter damn it, because they’re not even real. 32.2% think the dead characters might be alive in some kind of afterlife, but it’s just an interesting part of the SnK universe. 18.8% think that PATHS will make its infinite fuckery known once again, and 6% think that those ghosts are going to make a difference standing up to Eren – how is he gonna fight against a million dead guys, huh?
The most interesting part about the data we got was a surge in responses for only this and the previous question. About 300 entries to the poll which only wanted to submit that “It was purely symbolic and Hange did not experience this,” and “I ain’t afraid of no ghosts. It was just in Hange’s mind or symbolic.” Now that is curious indeed. For someone who ain’t afraid of ghosts, I’m sensing some real trepidation here!
They likely will not interact with nor affect the coming events, as their roles have already played out.
" Valhalla’s battle-honed residents are there by the will of Odin, who collects them for the perfectly selfish purpose of having them come to his aid in his fated struggle against the wolf Fenrir {Fenir had been previously associated with Eren by fans} during Ragnarok – a battle in which Odin and the einherjar are doomed to die."
Setup for Reiner to converse with his fallen comrades.
Afterlife. Not convinced it's significant in any way, but would love it to be
An afterlife would be completely unnecessary for the story and make things needlessly more complicated for little reason/narrative payoff.
Feels like a set up for an ending where even if everyone dies they can be together in the afterlife
Mobuhan is fucking real
Hange is in heaven, surrounded by everyone who she's fought alongside. She can't help the alliance in any way, but she can watch them win. And they will win.
They are bystanders.
  CARE TO EXPOUND YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS SCENE AND WHAT IT MEANS? 611 responses
Through PATHS the thought of 'Afterlife' is possible. And if it isn't, then it's nice to hallucinate something good while they're dying.
Is hange really dead?
it means ERWIN KNOWS WHAT'S IN THE BASEMENT AYEEEE
IT MEANS ERWIN GETS MORE LINES WOOO
y'know how from the start there's been the idea that the survey corps have been making sacrifices that no one will ever care about? this is a rebuke to that. Hange, like every other survey corps member, is watched over by their own dead and now Hange gets to be a part of the ghost crew that watches over the corps and occasionally appears to freak out the commander. I also tend to dislike the idea that this manga has a perfectly happy afterlife because it cheapens the goal they're fighting for and comes dangerously close to validating Reiner's attempt.
You should have given a choice of this is symbolic. Ya'll should really read more fiction if ya'll think this is really the afterlife ffs
Afterlife makes all the deaths useless and less impactful, hope it's not a thing.
All the Eldians have the ability to “stay” alive after they die thanks to the paths dimension.
All this suffering to get an afterlife?!?
Although I do think that an afterlife could be possible, I don't think it'll affect the story. It may come back during the epilogue, but I can't figure out how Isayama could use it for the main story plot.
Anything is possible, either it's Hange's own hallucinations or something real. Though i would like for it to be smth tangible, (esp since a clue was that Hange didn't know Shadis died but he appeared anyways). idk I'd just like for everyone to be happy and see each other again 😭
Beetroot alive in PATHS and he's gonna kill Eren
Being dead is happier than living in this world, such an uplifting moral Isayama
Both Hange and Erwin thought about their comrades and "saw" them when their role was weighing on them. I don't think I have nothing against it being real, but I like the symbolism. Some things are cooler when I don't overthink.
Perhaps it will be less edgy to see so much death if there is an afterlife in SnK, but use the opportunity well! For me it was a gift to see the veterans again: Moblit caring for Hange, Erwin being in peace, Mike being there after the impact that he gave us…
every time "ghosts" have been shown in attack on titan they've just been visual depictions of the character's mental state.
Everyone who begged to see Erwin in another chapter can finally be at peace
Expansion of what chapter 85 already implied
I don't care, I'm just happy we get to see our babies again.
I think it is some sort of a special place in paths because they are standing on where Hange died, that's really weird if if it's afterlife, if it's afterlife they should be in a paradise or a peaceful place, but no. It's weird if they are all ghosts like almost the survey corps are in that area
I think it means that every dead soldier have meaning and we shouldn't forget them
I think it shows that their deaths weren’t in vain and they are watching over their comrades. It was a truly moving scene.
I think it's symbolic. Honestly with all the discourse around this scene I am not sure if it was even worth it to include.
I don't believe she's dead. We have an unexplained memory shard of her without glasses (ch130) and one of the panels this chp looks like she lost her glasses.
if levi could hurry up and join them that´d be great
If Yams tries to pull a kny I'm gonna rip him a new one. This is bullshit and he should stop before people believe there is an afterlife in aot. This doesn't fit into the story he created for years. But he is willing to kill his own world in hopes to get some readers back from stealing smth from a way more successful manga. It's pathetic.
Im still in doubt if the afterlife scene really happened since erwin is still missing his arm while the others are just fine. I hope its all just in hange's head and that someone from the boat could rescue her.
It might be the Path. Because just like Eren Kruger said, "All Eldians is connected to what we say the coordinate." This maybe a paradise or a heaven that Eren or someone with the founding titan and royal blood can control.
It only serves to dramatize hange's death. No shit, I was crying like hell when I read this scene😭😭 other than that it's just like other deaths we've seen before, only to set a dramatic and brutal tone for a thriller series
The remaining of Hange blood in the floor indicates she/he was already dead,  so no hallucinations in her last moments. Symbolic? Doesn’t sound like isayama. The only symbolic stuff in manga concerns the cult to Ymir. Has to be a connection through paths.
They really gave their hearts to humanity, they were all incredible, and it's really nostalgic to see them in this way
This scene wasn't here for no reason. It just felt different from any other vision we've seen, and I believe it'll come into play later on.
This was Hange's imagination because she saw the dead ones in the same shape she saw them alive last time like Mike and Nanaba. Erwin too(without one hand)
those who died are finally set free
You just died and entered spectator mode
  FAVORITE PIECK MOMENT THIS CHAPTER? 1,601 responses
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For a chapter not focused on Pieck plotwise, there sure were a lot of short moments with her.  The two most popular options being her shooting down Hange’s ask for a ride with no hesitation, and vowing to give her comrade’s sacrifices meaning.  A moment of meme and a moment of serious nature, perfectly balanced.
Idk but Pieck is a bad bitch
Pieck sounds like she may turn on everyone in the end but I hope not.
pieck finger = some kind of marleyan erwin smith
Pieck is gonna DIE 😭
Pieck isn't really interesting....and she doesnt do any Import to the others....Just for Reiner maybe
Pieck will sacrifice herself for the sake of her fallen comrades. (that's what I think)
  WHICH “FRINGE” THEORY DO YOU BELIEVE IN? 1,597 responses
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Despite the manga racing towards its conclusion crack theorists have had no shortage of new material, most recently with the bizarre amount of focus given to birds and Hange’s warm welcome to the afterlife. We wanted to find out which of these fringe theories have a broader appeal.
Nearly half the fandom is no fun at all, selecting “These theories are all just cope” (49%). For the rest of us “Birds are spies” apparently requires the least amount of tin foil since just over a third of the fandom thinks it has potential (35.4%). “The ghosts are real” (16.7%), Historia’s pregnancy is fake (13.7%) and the “The birds ARE the ghosts” (8.7%) didn’t fare quite as well.
Overall a great chapter. But this whole Theory of there being an afterlife in Attack on Titan is utterly ridiculous and extreme coping.
The afterlife thing was completely garbage and was easily the worst part of the chapter.
I believe that afterlife exists. It has nothing to do with paths, titan powers or religions. It is just afterlife, where souls of dead soldiers may find a peace. The world of SnK was always "cruel but also beautiful". Cruel - because innocent people die, but beautiful - because there is still a hope for happiness for their souls.
the birds...work for the bourgeoisie
I hope it's all symbolism but these "dead people" motive have been weirdly often mentioned in the story. People asking Erwin if he thinks that "dead have no regrets" in season 1. Levi Ova called " No regrets". Erwin asking Levi if he thinks that dead are watching them in S.3. There is also role Valhalla plays in Ragnarok in Mythology...
  WHICH MOMENT OF LEVITY BEFORE THE DOOM OF THIS CHAPTER WAS YOUR FAVORITE? 1,633 responses
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THAT face from Mikasa was the highlight for 28.2% of you. I don’t think she’s ever been that stunned. 22.8% loved that one of Hange’s priorities was getting to ride the Cart Titan in the future, and Pieck not having it. 17.6% enjoyed Levi being the butt of a joke even as Hange was about to meet their doom, and 14.5% appreciated Levi throwing his fans a finger bone. Annie talking with Reiner about the good old days earned a laugh for 13.3% of you, and 3.5% liked seeing Levi throw shade at Yelena’s kinks.
the "what the heck" face on mikasa's face  after realising annieés feelings made my day.LOL
Levi x Yelena is cute and soon to be canon
Poor Levi. He cearly is still not recovered but his comment on being forgotten was a nice knock on the fourth wall.
Uh... you feeling okay, Yelena?
"I AM GONNA KILL THE BEAST TITAN"   "Okay grandpa, now let's get you to bed"
  DESCRIBE THE CHAPTER IN ONE WORD 1,065 responses
I get the feeling this chapter was a little upsetting for many. But then again, three over the top five words were the same as last month! Such is the life of an SnK fan. The top five words this time were:
Pain [143] Sad [56] Heartbreaking [29] Emotional [24] Sacrifice [20]
For those of you still thinking this is a cookbook, it's obvious you're making soup for your souls. Tangy, Cheesy, Hot, Chile, and YAMS must be the dish that represents this chapter.
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  WHAT ARE YOU MOST HOPING TO SEE NEXT CHAPTER? 1,634 responses
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Are we actually about to see the final confrontation?! I can hardly believe it, but 48.6% of you are goddamn ready for it. 17.9% still want to see Historia’s own POV (what, weren’t you satisfied with that one convoluted flashback?), and 15.5% would like to see some kind of discussion before the alliance launches into an undoubtedly insanely reckless maneuver. Also, Zeke had better come back soon or I’ll forget to put him in the options again!
girl i wanna see eren with the alliance
Next chapter I hope to see Zeke, you didn't put the option
We really really need to see Historia. She's been missing from the narrative for so long, and the flashback crumbs from Eren's memories explained nothing.
Surprises ..!!! More of them...flashback about carl fritz ...zeke ...more about eren ...we wanna more important moments and facts
I'd like to know what happened with Zeke. Is he dead? Is he merged with Eren? Is he still back on paradis? What's going on?
Alright, where is Zeke? I've lost my patience.
  WHERE DO YOU PRIMARILY DISCUSS THE SERIES? 1,492 responses
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Reddit maintains the lead this month, with just a few percentage points over Twitter, which takes second. A bit behind Twitter is “In real life”, which goes to show that Attack on Titan fans are total chads with social lives. Stay safe and don’t die though! After real life comes Discord, with 22.3% of the vote. Trailing Discord, in order, is Instagram, Youtube, “I don’t”, Facebook, 4Chan, the wiki, Snapchat, and Steam. Much to my dismay, this question was made multiple choice this month, which MEANS that, in theory, some of you could have ~erroneously~ voted Snapchat. Either that’s the case, or you lot are multiplying far faster than I’d anticipated… I’m going to elect to believe the former on account of not wanting to believe the latter.
  ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON THE CHAPTER? 497 responses
What the fuck is doing the survey corps
where is that goddamn monke
WHERE IS THE MONKE
snkpolls admins please hold me
Floch with wet hair looks cool.
Glad to see yams isnt afraid to kill characters, I was getting worried.
I have a love/hate relationship with Floch, and while I disagree with the rumbling, his last words got to me and it was sad.
I honestly found Floch's death to be tragic, even though he was a bastard, he still believed he was fighting for Paradis's wellbeing
I laughed when random Floch appeared, but I hate that his actions lead to Hange deciding to sacrifice herself.
Even though the manga it's coming to an end Isayama really gives us details which is interesting in order to understand the storyline but I'd like more action
Even though we didn't see him this chapter, Hanji's sacrifice took me from "Eren must be stopped" to "I WILL strangle Eren to death with my own two hands". Dude's ground-breaking idea of rumbling got Hanji killed and he will pay for that.
Everything about this chapter was just so breathtaking. I Loved this chapter so much it was just amazing. Words can’t even describe how I feel. Only thing I didn’t like was floch shooting the plane. God answering these just makes me wanna cry.
Also Bert mentions! We're finally going to see him soon and have a long-awaited RB-union!
REALLY GLAD I FOUND AOT BEFORE IT ENDS , I wish Annie and armin ends up, and jean and mikasa 👀👀👀 dont judge me please. It really gave more insight on the feelings of the alliance now.
WHY ISAYAMA, WHY?!
Why no Bertholdt :(
Why no one is happy?
I feel like the fandom would've broken if only an Alliance member died, so to make things equal, we lost a Yeagerist and an Alliance member.
EREN IS A VILLAIN
FLOCH DID NOTHING WRONG
Listen. I couldn't stop crying, like UGLY sobs, from the moment Hange says they're gonna "do it" and then they become all "Armin Arlert" and "I hereby name you" and then I was DONE. Buckets of tears, squealing noises, repeating "no no no" while rereading the same panels over and over again. I Loved Hange. I loved them so much. They were THAT kind of weird, they were passionate, smart, funny... I loved them, but I love how they got to choose how to die, and when, and especially knowing their death will be useful for the others. They died fighting brilliantly, and I will love them, and they will inspire me forever. Farewell Hange, have a nice time in the afterlife with all your fallen comrades, knowing you can stand tall and proud among them.
No one can force Annie to stay. But I can't believe everyone's just fine with this. The world is fckin' ending and only by a miracle they can win, there's NO WAY those people are compromised to the gravity of the situation if they're all just "yeah, Annie is a titan and she's out, let's get the other titan too because he's a kid, Pieck I thought you were coming to the ship too?", because it really sounds like they're not even trying at this point. Is this a walk in the park or the destiny of all people in the world?? :/
Levi’s “see you later, Hange” reminds me of Mikasa’s “see you later, Eren” in the first chapter. A foreshadow of Eren’s eventual demise?
There still isn't a third realistic alternative.
Hange sacrifice was the greater good and I hope the alliance makes the most of this chance, For those they have lost. For those they can yet save
Hange knows their time is near and they are correct.
There was no need to kill off Hange, felt forced and rushed
this armin/annie stuff had better go somewhere plotwise after wasting cringy panels on it that could have been dedicated to less rushed interactions between other alliance members. might as well just kill the alliance off at this point and let reiner finally die, since their chapters are such a drop in quality.
This chapter and the previous two are perfect reminders that we're at the point of no return in the final arc. While I want to see some good moments, twists, and any loose ends tied by now (Zeke, WHERE ARE YOU?!!), it's all going to be all doom and gloom from here on out. Whether Eren or the Alliance succeeds depends on how these next chapters turn out; Whoever wins, bloodshed will continue until the Rumbling ends.
I realised Hange probably has huge survivors guilt and that she wanted to die, and wanted to make her old friends proud(who are dead)
They all really cared for Hange a lot and that's sweet.
They should have a concrete plan on how to stop eren if they could
Things are gonna get wild.
Great chapter, and I'm really excited to see how the Alliance and Eren confrontation plays out. This ending has the potential to be absolutely legendary.
Half of the characters have no hope in what they are doing (the "leaders") but do that because "ThEY hAD tO" and another half will makes me sad because they dont care about eren plan really (not speaking about gaby and falco)
Hange could have exited the story in another way, I guess.
Hange's death should have been more dramatic.
Hange's death was handles perfectly and the chapter had it's fair share of humour.
Hange's death was rushed, could've been better handled. Floch's selfless death was the only high point,  and maybe LH being semi-confirmed.
Honestly, I don't hate Hange but I wish she had lived to see the consequences of her betrayal of Paradis, by putting her own feelings and morals over her own people's wellfare; for better or worse, her actions will have huge repercussions on the entire island and she should be there to take responsibility over the inevitable fallout. Even though she never tried to avoid responsibility over her choices, and I genuinely respect her for sacrificing herself over her ideas, it honestly feels to me like death was an easy way out from having to deal with Paradis' fate (SPECIALLY if the Valhalla stuff is real) while leaving Armin to clean up her mess.
Levihan is real
i expected sex on the ship or aruani huge/kiss/touch
Honestly, I'm just following it because I got used to reading a chapter every month, but the story is terrible now. Hange's death only served to confirm that Isayama intends to have a 'final battle' between childhood friends, nothing unexpected.
hope we get more from Jean
Hope we now start going into the final confrontation cause this chapter seemed setup to that.
As I've said before, I'll miss Hange. RIP you absolute legend.
Hopefully we get to see historia
Hoping for more Hanji backstory.
I don’t need a heart to live
I don’t see how this story can have any sort of a happy ending
I dont see a possible ending where all these characters can live the rest of their lives in peace but oh well
This chapter dropped massive death flags on Armin and Pieck. These two aren't going to last. Yelena is probably dead from compartment syndrome next chapter.
This chapter honestly makes me more scared for Levi because I was hoping he would get the kind of ending that Hange got. Now we just have to wait and wonder about how much more pain Isayama is going to put him through.
ZEKE WHEN ?????? I MISS YOU
I’m frustrated with the direction the story is going in. Armin being made commander, Hange dying, Annie being brought back just to confess to Armin and then be sidelined, Mikasa being the one to kill Floch, it all just seems to make little narrative sense. I don’t feel like we’re building to a clever twist, it all feels capricious and random
After comparing Hange’s death in the manga to Erwin’s death in the manga, I can safely say that Hange’s death was better. Hange’s had comedy like her complaining about how hot the CTs were and of course that line she said to Pieck, it was sad with the Levi and Hange moments and the chapter’s conclusion, and it was epic with her killing 3-4 Colossal Titans, getting scorched to death and her dead body falling until she got trampled in the Rumbling. Erwin’s was just epic with bringing the entire Survey Corps going down with him. If Mappa does well with the anime, this will break the internet for sure and this death will be remembered.
bruh my favorite character just fucking died
It was a quick way for removing another veteran. I feel that the vets sacrifice their lives too easily. They see their own existance like it was some rpg game and they were going to go back to life after while. First Magath and Shadis decided to commit heroic suicide, now Hange decided to leave this world "just like that"/ C'mon, people don't give up with their lives so fast..
Oh, and this chapter made me start shipping levihan!
characters stop dying challenge
This and next chapter are the calm before the storm. And once that storm comes, this is going to end up as either a great story or a perfect story. Also, what the heck happened to Zeke? I need answers on that matter.
At this point the only way for this story to end in a satisfying manner is for Eren to kill everyone, successfully finish the Rumbling and save his people.
Aún estoy llorando.
I feel Hange should have been given more space to make a bigger impact as a commander. It’s like, Erwin always made gambles that magically worked out for him in the grand scheme of things (for the most part and in a group with a horrible survival rate like the SC no less) but for whatever reason Hange just stuck their thumb up their butt and twirled the whole time. Sometimes making one character smart results in everyone else only being allowed to have one shared brain cell. Overall I liked Hange a lot but they were done dirty. And blaming Eren for everything? Lol Hange. You can put your clown nose on now.
Overall best leader? Jean. Best leader for this particular set of circumstances? Armin.
I can't wait until the Alliance realize their futile efforts and come face to face with the reality that, Eren has power over the memories of all subjects of Ymir and can control their titan shifting.
Isayama just want to kill everyone,isn't he? In every chapter we've got deaths this is just depressing. Isayama I respect you but I hate you but I respect you but I hate you.
I cried buckets while reading it, so props to Isayama for that! :)
I cried when Floch died and I laughed when Hange died .
I don't have words for that. I am just lucky enough to be able to witness this  work while
Pain. So much pain. Levihan pain. Aruani pain... *cries for a week while preparing self for more tears in the near future*
i just want everyone to be friends again😭
Jean has not been about stopping Eren from the get-go. I think we are up for a MAJOR revelation about his own involvement in Eren’s plans.
Hange should be survived
Hange should've not died in this chapter since we still do not know the clear plan of the alliance. Their death was written in a hurry, not as epic as Erwin.
Hange was my favorite character. But, as much as I am sad to see her go, her last moments were pretty epic, I am looking forward to see how it will affect the rest of the story.
Hange wasn't a good commander no matter how much her fans cry about it. her being a good character is another thing altogether.
My babies Yelena, Pieck, Reiner, Gabi, and Falco deserve the world.
Hange's manner of death, in her own terms fighting to save others, is my favorite so far.
Hanji death was unnecessary and Floch death only made Allience look worse then they already are
0/10 no Zeke
Jean is the only one who undestands eren and Floch
Jean never really supported the Alliance, he will try to reason Eren's plan isn't all that bad.
Jean will see Flochs words as a possible option but i dont see him going through with opposing The Alliance. He made his choice when he joined them.
(THE DEAD SPEAK LMAOOO) I really liked this chapter but it’s still horrible and traumatizing like the 131 (wait actually the 131 is way more horrible 😭)
Amazing art as always.
Amazing yet sad chapter since I respected both hange and falco and to see them die was pretty sad.
ANNIE AND ARMIN FOREVER. I want her to be free to be soft and caring and to have someone who loves and adores her. I love this dynamic and I think it’s a good foil to Eren and Historia
ANNIE IS THE BEST GIRL!
I want Reiner to live on as the clinically depressed sole survivor.
i’m still broken. hange and sasha were my comfort characters✌🏻😭
Idc but your quiz suck
Idk its just i'm pretty sad about hange's death cuz she was one oof my top waifus
One of my favorites ✊😔 rip Hange
One ship. I just want ONE CANON SHIP by the end of this, Isayama. JUST ONE. Is it really too much to ask, man. I've already given you plenty of my tears to sip on so idk what more you want from me...
Only Armin, Mikasa, Levi and Reiner will survive.
OUCH
Please stop making Levi suffer be it a final rest or a peaceful life anything PLEASE
Please, don't let anyone else die :(
Plot wise it was shit, but I love it for the drama
POGGERS
Poor Levi. Everyone important to him was taken away. Also, HANGE GOAT.
Poor Reiner.
rest in peace Hange "nonbinary icon" Zoe
rest in peace king, now is in Eren hand to keep giving meaning to your life
Really was good. Hange went out in a great way.
Surprised Floch didn't end up killing anyone, especially no named engineers, Yelena or Connie.
The way Mikasa shot the grappling hook at Floch’s throat was like how Levi killed an MP by shooting their throat during Uprising. Ackermans can access the battle experience of other Ackermans through Paths – Mikasa learnt that move from Levi.
I would think that this chapter should have gotten into more interactions between Armin and Annie, because i feel as though their relationship should be explored a bit further. Given that we know that both do like each other, it should be seen on how these two handled their possibly last goodbyes.
I'm just gonna let it flow
I'M NEVER GETTING OVER HANJI'S DEATH
Hange is one of the most well-written characters of a manga abounding with them. I love the way they always stayed true to their ideals without wavering, despite all their doubts about their suitability as Commander. Their open-mindedness, humour and love for knowledge make them truly special, and their most quintessential line must be this one from chapter 127: "'Just bringing freedom to this island is enough for me'. Do you think a single one of [the dead Survey Corps] would be so narrow-minded as to say that?" Chills. Very glad they chose Armin as their successor as well before taking down the colossals. They will be missed.
I'm quite curious about Armin's next moves. He is the commander now after all. Also, wondering what Levi is going to do now.
I'm really curious about the weapon that Yelena brought up to the alliance
i get the feeling that annie has had all the closure she needs and she’s gonna die but at least she might pass on her power to gabi ? either way i’ll be devastated to see her go
I HATE it that Hanji had to die, but loved the way she got her heroic moment. It's a love/hate chapter for me.
I have fears of Annie to die
I hope Levi lives just so he can be the most tragic character in AOT.
I hope soon, eren can stop all of this thing
I it wasn’t for the spoilers, Hange’s death would have break my heart.
I just hope Levi found his peace and die, please. He's already lost Hange, please don't make him suffering more.
I just thought it was impressive that this was one of the three moments in the whole story that actually made me ugly cry (Other two were Hannes' death and Serumbowl)
The more i think on Hanges death the more i like/understand it.
The sad looks on Levi and Hanji's faces are enough to say thousands of unspoken words. Nuff said.
Reiner is immortal
reiner looked hot af
This beast of a man, how many hours did he spend nearly drowning with a wounded arm? I got to really care about him even if his ""political"" choice was the worst. I just wanted him to have a dignified end and he had (even if Jean wasn't the one to do it). And the vignette... Perfect. In the end, he really fought as the devil he needed so much, no matter their identity. Relax, honey. Now you're safe from Eren's bullshit.
i miss hanji
I need HISTORIAAAA
I need more PATHS and I smell it coming
...i´m tired.
The Survey Corps never actually fought for humanity prior to the Rumbling, only against it. Hange even states this irony in chapter 89. The "well, the Corps was always fighting for humanity" rationalization is just disingenuous cope that ignores everything that got revealed with the basement and, by extension, the plot itself.
Super based
I really just want to see how this ends already.
I still can't believe Hange died. And to think that Levi's got no one else in his life anymore breaks my heart. I've always think that Levi and Hange should be together until the end. Not shipping them tho. I don't if it's platonic or romantic,but they love and care for each other. And Levi realising that his only friend is going to die and his eyes turn dark like an abyss really makes me feel like broken in half. And that dedicate your heart scene..oh my god I can't. And Hange still got some nerves to joke around at time really made me goes "HANGEEE-SANN!!"༼;´༎ຶ ۝ ༎ຶ༽
Floch's final moments were sorely needed to remind us just how human he really is. He didn't care about ruling the country or destroying the alliance. All he wanted was for his people and the island to survive, and he felt the alliance was putting that in jeopardy so he did what he thought he had to do.
Isayama keeps killing my favorite characters
I liked the chapter but it felt unnecessary Floch probably should have died before the boat left and Hange was killed off to lighten the cast and make Armin commander.  Hange and Levi probably could have died/stayed in the forest.
R.I.P. in horny titan jail
I like this manga. Very much so ❤
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