#just stop fucking shipping rl people

[5ivebyfive]

CELEBS AND IDOLS OWE YOU NOTHING OF THEIR PERSONAL LIVES.

DO NOT SHIP RL PEOPLE.

IF YOU GET HURT FEELINGS THAT IS ON YOU.

NO ONE LIED, DECEIVED, QUEERBAITED, OR MANIPULATED YOU EXCEPT THE EXECS WHO MADE THEIR STARS HINT OTHERWISE FOR RATINGS AND VIEWS. (WHICH IS THE FUCKING NORM IN THESE SHOWS. AND THE ACTUAL ISSUE.) THE PROBLEM HERE IS THEM NOT THE VICTIM.

THIS IS ABOUT PRIVACY BEING BREECHED AND AVERAGE PEOPLE NOT KNOWING THE LINES NOT TO CROSS. IT’S ABOUT SOMEONE BREAKING THE LAW. IT’S ABOUT FANS WHO THINK THESE PEOPLE OWE THEM ANYTHING THEY WANT.

THESE WOMEN WANT TO KEEP THEIR JOBS AND SO THEY DO AS THEY ARE TOLD. THEY DO WHAT THEY SIGNED ON TO DO. IT IS ONLY WRONG THAT THEY WERE MADE TO IN ORDER TO WORK.

REAL PEOPLE OWE YOU NOTHING.

GET THE FUCK OVER IT AND STOP ACTING LIKE THEY WERE OUT TO PERSONALLY GET YOU AND TRICK YOU AND HURT YOU.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU.

THIS IS NOT ON HER.

SHE DIDN’T DO ANYTHING WRONG EXCEPT AGREE TO FUCKED UP AND ACTUAL, NORMAL TERMS. (THE REAL FUCKING PROBLEM.)

SHE JUST WANTED HER JOB AND TO REPRESENT US. SHE FOUGHT FOR YOU. SHE CHAMPIONED FOR YOU. SHE LOVED YOU. SHE LOVES BECKY AND HER WORK.

THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU.

DO NOT SHIP REAL PEOPLE ESPECIALLY IN MEDIA BECAUSE NOTHING IS REAL. IT IS FUCKING ENTERTAINMENT. IT IS YOUR FAULT YOU ARE DISAPPOINTED. IT IS IDF’S FAULT. THAT. IS. IT. IF YOU THINK THESE TACTICS DON’T GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF FILM AND STAGE THEN DO YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH.

IF YOU’RE TOO YOUNG TO UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT FANSERVICE TO YOU THEN YOU ARE TOO YOUNG FOR FANDOM. YOU’RE IN THE WRONG FIGHT. YOU’RE ON THE WRONG SIDE.

SIGNED, A QUEER, TIRED, FED UP FAN WHO CAN’T STAND THIS OR YOU ANYMORE.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. MOVE ON AND LEAVE HER ALONE.

#freen sarocha #sarocha chankimha #sarocha freen i love you #becky armstrong #freenbeck #freenbecky #idols #idf #gap the series #gap yuri #and while I have you here #no one broke becky’s heart #she knew what was going on #she supports her friend #just stop fucking shipping rl people #you did this to yourself #idf did this #not freen #not becky #they are ACTORs #doing their JOBS #DO YOU REALLY THINK THEYD HAVE JOBS #IF THEY REFUSED?? #plus who cares if their friendship was flirty? #it actually fucking happens between women #ESPECIALLY #with actors that act like they are in love and make out #just GROW UP #THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU OR YOUR LIFE

[blacklegsanjiii]

Your ASL x Sanji and your RLS!siblings au's are so good omg-

I've been reading your posts about them and, what if both happened at the universe? Like, Garp brings his grandsons not much time after Zeff opens Baratie, and Sanji is still in grief about his siblings.

Of course, the scar and everything happened some time before and Dragon bring Sabo back to his brothers but promises to let Sabo join the revs when he's older.

(Sanji probaly just tells about his siblings to ASL near his 11 birthday bc, y'know, memories about the storm)

(And in Wano, Law and Robin have to deal with the ASL liking Sanji)

I stopped writing Mihawk/Sora soulmate AU for this. It's great. So not only do we have Zeff/Garp we have ASL all crushing on Sanji in an AU where Sanji lost his siblings who actually loved and cared for him during a storm. Also in RSL, it's SanLu. The ship that sailed is SanLu but they're all dating Sanji and it is PAINFUL for Law.

AMAZING! What a chaotic fucking mess that enraptures our cook so wholly. Fantastic. There is a cut because this is long.

So what essentially happens is Garp finds his not dead boyfriend/husband/lover man and finds out he adopted this kid and decides to bring his grandchildren. It's a chaotic disaster, it's a whole fucking mess. Sanji isn't exactly looking to get close to anyone, and he's still trying to keep Zeff an ocean away practically after what happened to him not too long ago.

Still, ASL wear him down and now he's just doing his best. The days spent with kids his age and not running good. As much as the Baratie moves they still see the same people a lot. No one has connected him to Robin despite his bounty, because he and Law have to have one for traveling with her and them being beginning pirates.

As it draws closer to Sanji's eleventh birthday and the stormy season coming in Garp and ASL are spending the night at Baratie. A dinner for them and the staff only. At some point it comes up because Luffy asks when Sanji's birthday is and Sanji tells them and says he doesn't want to celebrate. Zeff asks why and Sanji answers.

No one was expecting that he lost his family in a storm. His brother and sister and crew. In the North Blue. The storm that made him wind up in the East Blue, alone, and then another stranded him on a rock with Zeff. Garp is studying the kid before nodding and apologizing for his loss. Garp knows those brows from a bounty for a child, not as high as Nico Robin's but getting up there. Zeff tells him they're going to make new memories and that's that. And they do, Sanji cries, tears of loss and happiness. Everything continues, Sabo leaves and is brought back by Dragon with a promise to join the Revolutionaries at seventeen.

Time goes on they all set sail, Sanji goes with Luffy. They're sailing and it's going well. Everything is going well. They pick up Robin post Alabasta and she can see he's dating Luffy but when they're finally alone Sanji explains they don't know about who his siblings are but he's dating Luffy, Ace, and Sabo. Robin cocks her head and smiles and says something about plural marriages being relatively common in the old days and she's glad he found three men to provide for him until he dies. Sanji nods at that given his history and just says he hopes it's not starvation again.

They run into Law and Sabaody but can't talk to him and then when they're teleported away it's a weird situation. Robin meets Sabo and Dragon. Sabo comes back some months later and says Sanji's on Momoiro to her and Dragon asks how it was to see his boyfriend and Sabo is so pleased. Robin politely threatens him with stringing his entrails across the grand line and into the the depths of hell if he hurts her baby brother. Sabo chokes as Dragon starts laughing. She also tells him he shouldn't necessarily be worried about her but their brother who she also doesn't name. Sabo asks why she's so creepy and Dragon hits him for that.

After the time skip Ace joins and is all over Sanji and Robin looks unimpressed at him and Luffy and doesn't explain why. Luffy has not figured out they're siblings. Ace hasn't either. Then on Punk Hazard when Law starts traveling with them Law is looking at the brother's hanging off Sanji and then keeps throwing glances at Robin. Sanji is throwing apologetic looks to them as he pulled between the brothers and trying to calm them down as the anger and annoyance in his siblings is growing. Sanji feels like he's going to be skinned alive.

Obviously after Dressrosa when they're in the cabin after the split and Sabo is there and saying hi to Robin and his brothers and asks Ace if he got a threat from Robin yet. Ace is confused as he tells Sabo he and Luffy have not had any threats from Robin, why would they and Sabo is like 'she threatened me over Sanji, not fair' which makes Ace look at Robin in fright. Sabo repeats what she said to him verbatim and says that their brother would threaten them worse which makes Law nod and say they don't call him the surgeon of death for nothing.

Luffy is so lucky to be sleeping as Sabo quietly leaves and wishes the two of them luck. Law looks at Robin and asks if they'll ever fix his and Sanji's bounties as they were the two helping Robin run when they were younger and Robin says she doesn't know and Ace points out Garp never arrested Sanji whenever they were at Baratie and Law asks why Sanji was at Redleg's restaurant. The sigh of exasperation from Law and the laugh from Robin at finding out Garp dates Zeff makes too much fucking sense that they didn't consider it and that's also how Law and Robin find out about the rock.

Law throws his hands in the air and says that if the cook could stop getting starved that'd be cool and Robin says Law and Sanji's eating habits could be far better than what they were. Zoro is laughing so hard he's wheezing at the affronted look between the two. Usopp is practicing his breathing techniques. He is a brave warrior of the sea. He is a brave warrior of the sea. He is so glad he's not dating Sanji and Kaya is waiting for him because fuck that mess.

Law and Robin find out Sanji has been kidnapped by the Vinsmokes when they get to Zou as Luffy excitedly tells everyone that Law and Robin are Sanji's siblings. Ace asks if Robin and Law know about the Vinsmokes and they admit they do, though not much. Just that Sanji was declared dead at six and in the dungeons until he escaped at eight and found them. They don't mention the helmet. The crews are staring at them wide eyed. Bepo starts crying because he hasn't seen Sanji yet and he's gone back to his birth family. Law and Robin assure him he was taken by force which equals kidnapping. Bepo calms down at that but that does make Shachi and Penguin lose it. Robin laughs as Law groans and pinches the bridge of his nose.

Ace goes with the rescue team and Robin doesn't, she assures Law as they go to Wano it'll be fine. Sanji has two of his boyfriends going to save him. Zoro asks how they all ended up together as the crews are getting ready to depart so they tell the story and Luffy and Ace tell the story of them dating Sanji, Zeff and Garp and all that. Law sighs and Robin shakes her head. Bepo makes Luffy promise to bring Sanji back, Law is standing back and to the side of Bepo with a cocked brow and Luffy is like 'duh of course I will' and Bepo nods and they all leave.

Then a few weeks later in Wano when the rescue team and Jimbei come. It still takes time for the crews to have a minute to all be together and Bepo and Shachi and Penguin are all hanging off Sanji while Ace and Luffy look jealous. But then Sanji has Ace and Luffy with him almost constantly and Law and Robin roll their eyes, Law looks disgusted at some points. Then the raid of Onagashima happens and Ace has a nose bleed at Sanji being in his suit and Law shambles Sanji away from them.

After they leave Wano Sanji calls Law and Robin to the denden of the Sunny and they call Zeff and he introduces his siblings to the man he considers his father. When Zeff hears who his siblings are he is praying in another language and Sanji is laughing as he translates. Law is smiling and Robin is giggling because Zeff is losing it. He is saying this makes too much fucking sense and goes along well with why he dates those three boys. All of it.

#black leg sanji #monkey d. luffy #trafalgar law #portgas d ace #vinsmoke sanji #devil child nico robin #nico robin #straw hat luffy #sabo one piece #revolutionary sabo #fire fist ace #heart pirates #strawhat pirates #mugiwara crew #acesan #sanace #sabosan #sansabo #lusan #sanlu #nt!law #nt!robin #nt!sanji #red leg zeff #redleg zeff #vice admiral garp #monkey d garp #answers #zeff x garp #garp x zeff

[shylemon0]

Gareth x Will Byers (Headcanons)

Hehehe my first ship headcanons ever and they don’t even know the other person exists 😎

(If the characters could read our fics or Headcanons of them in their world, I think Will would probably read my Gareth x artist!reader Headcanons because of course he would lol)

Warning: Gay shit, bullies, implied homophobia, Will being flustered, Gareth lovingly teasing Will, kinda in a world where the upsidedown isn’t a thing (I honestly just forgot to write about and just don’t feel like writing about rn lol)

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· After Joyce decides to move her family back to Hawkins Will joined the hellfire club and there he met Gareth, a pretty cool guy that he totally didn’t get a crush in the second he saw him, Will started to hang out with him and rest of hellfire and quickly got over Mike, becoming really close with Gareth and almost seeing him as his best friend (besides Lucas and Dustin ofc)

· Basically after Gareth finally put the pieces together and realized that Will was gay he’d go all out with the subtle flirting and compliments, “Hello handsome” Gareth smirks “uh w-what- hi👋?” Will mumbled in flustered shock 

· Gareth mostly was freaking out internally about his new crush and had to pry his own eyes off of Will every time they saw each other, ‘Holy shit he’s handsome’ ‘No stop it brain- this is not happening’ he’d continue to think over and over again, ‘oh fuck he’s perfect’ · The both of them was pretty shy about any physical affection at first, like if they were sitting next to each other and one of them slides his hand slightly touching the others hand with their pinky, both of them would be a blushing mess as they finally lock their fingers together

· Gareth introducing Will to more cool music that they can listen to together · Eddie would probably subtly write in love scenarios with their dnd characters so their characters might end up being partners in crime (boyfriends) in the campaign, some of the others in hellfire might find it odd if they don’t know about their rl relationship but Gareth and Will appreciates it 

· Will has always been a big target for bullying his entire life and it all being mostly for homophobic reasons, but Gareth is here for him now and will defend him at all cost, especially since now bullies are being way more physical than before  · Gareth really helping Will come out of his shell and try out new things he’s always wanted to, like go to a concert, play a instrument, be more open about his sexuality or maybe dressing a little punk to see if he likes it

· Shyly kissing each other every chance they get but also being paranoid about being caught   · Jonathan thinks Gareth is pretty cool and that he’s a perfect fit for Will, basically he’s just their super supportive hype man that helps them keep their relationship secret

· Since Will is such a artist, you could only expect that he’d paint and draw a ton for his boyfriend, small doodles he’ll give Gareth during the day or a full blown painting with tons of small details for special occasions :) · After one of the shows Gareth’s band was playing he brought up Will to the stage and kissed him in front of everyone, and to Will’s surprise everyone cheered and “oooh😚” at them (since almost every single one of the people there were ally’s or queer themselves), Gareth just ended up chuckling at Will’s reaction and bringing him into a hug

· Will reading out loud to Gareth while he lays down his head in Will’s lap, and him recommending Fantasy books to Gareth, Also Gareth reading Horror books at night to Will when they have sleepovers which quickly ends up in Will being scared and paranoid and Gareth laughing while comforting Will, “oh shit- I think I heard something outside!” Will grabbed Gareth’s arm “it’s just a cat” Gareth laughs “you have nothing to be scared about, I’m here for you” he whispered as he put an arm around Will while laying back down

:D

Taglist: @la-vaca

(I have a taglist now! It’s on my pinned post if you want to know more about it!)

#will byers #Gareth #will stranger things #gareth stranger things #gareth the great #stranger things #stranger things hc #stranger things s4 #stranger things headcanons #character headcanons #ship headcanons #gareth x will #will x gareth #lgbt #relationship headcanons #they’re Gay #they’re in love <3 #two boys in love

[incarnateirony]

honestly getting out that post streamlining/reminding of the flow of the last 3 years of history felt. Good.

And you know what? Fuck you people. Yeah, Jensen doesn't want you here, but neither do I.

It's time to face your bullshit. It's time to face your homophobic tendancies whether internal or external. It's time for you guys to admit you're full of white supremacists and nationalists and actually DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT if you don't want to collectively be treated like the plague. It's time to admit you're rotten people with rotten opinions and nothing of value beyond the millions of dollars you've wasted.

It's time to recognize that the man you've spent those millions on can't stand you. He knows you're homophobic and racist and weird and possibly pedophilic or a sibling fucker. He doesn't think it's cute, he doesn't think it's funny, and you have never been a hero for harassing his friends or wife. J2 theory was never real, there was never an underground secret garage, the steak messages meant nothing, and the grilled cheese sandwich was just a sandwich.

He's an actor that has been paid, and for many years, basically forced as an employee, to tolerate your horse shit with a smile because you paid for it, and you did not have the common sense or contact with reality to understand that paid products, statements or events from performers are not indicative of reality, as much as indicative of a marketed product you desire to purchase.

And now, he's not an actor getting paid. Now he's the boss flushing them from markets, laughing and telling them to hate watch, and making everything their bigoted asses hate, and no amount of their screaming is gonna stop him, or the rainbow popping out of dean's head on premiere day that they said truly showed was binding this piece together and fated for success, almost like IDK, they see a message in that rainbow or some shit enough to premiere their show with it.

Jesus fuck. Go away you fucking homophobic cunts. I don't care what card you claim to wave, I don't care if you want to give yourselves gold stars for not abandoning your spouses when they came out, I don't fucking care. If you're a homophobic cunt you're a homophobic cunt, always have been, and the fun fact is the entire crew now knows you're homophobic cunts.

Process that shit. This is at hookerwitch and her homophobic shit about "prancing around", about Kelios' need to shove incest in real life LGBTQ tags, or 2po grooming people to accept RL incest in DMs. This is about Vinnie's willingness to pretend to be woke and use any angle to attack POC or LGBTQ content doing things she doesn't personally ship or whatever, to the point she herself exposes what a rancid racist cunt she is (like her reaction to the phrase "dirty south" being extremely freudian).

That's your shit. That's you being a problem nobody wants. Yes, you're right. They want you to go away. Stop being the weirdos screaming outside the party. Nobody wants you here. I literally paywalled my server and you guys are still so desperate for validation that's not stopping you. You lost, you fucking cunts, get over it.

Even if you refuse to process *who* in fandom outnavigated you these last several years to the success note we're on today, you HAVE to face the FUCKING. RESULT.

[trashquisitor-shirozora]

Will I ever be done ranting about the things I love from your fics? The jury’s still out, but today I’m thinking about the differences in the way Luke and Din express the importance of one another. Luke is comfortable voicing that stuff out loud. Outright telling Din that he dreams about him, that he thinks about their time on Vos 3 when he’s overwhelmed, that focusing on Din in the Force helps him settle his mind. Meanwhile Din is a man of few words and he has trouble expressing his thoughts and feelings as such, but his actions scream how much he feels with naming his ship after their time together, and keeping the blindfold safe and with him through the months and his fierce protectiveness of a man who’s more than capable of keeping himself safe. I just love them your honor

*crawls out of the hot messes that are RL and NaNo and flops on these words*

I lovelovelove all the different ways people show who they are and who other people are to them through their words and actions and even just thoughts. I love the idea that Luke is more expressive and open and balances Din's preference and habit of doing and showing rather than speaking. I love thinking how much they'd appreciate each other's love language, how freely Luke expresses it to Din and how carefully Din shows it to Luke. And I love the challenge of imagining and writing how they could and would express themselves to each other based on who they are and what we know about them.

Honestly, I will never stop talking about reading bell hooks in high school and being taken in by what she wrote about love (in this case, romantic love since we're talking about a ship lol). It's the idea that perhaps we'd all be better off if we treated love as an active thing, a verb, a choice and decision made every moment and every day, rather than some passive thing we fall into, that we let happen. It really moved me epsecially as a young idiot ace, and every shipfic I've written since always tried to keep that idea in mind.

I think that's a big part of the appeal of Din and Luke as a relationship and a partnership. I just love imagining all the ways they'd bond, the ways they'd choose to keep being near each other, the ways they'd show their love and respect for one another. They have different yet compatible ways of expressing their love and respect for each other, and I just think that's fucking neat.

*bonks own head* yep the feels are still super strong in this one

#shirozora awkwardly responds to asks #dinluke #i have a lot of feelings okay #i have SO MANY OF THEM #side note i have andor to blame for helping reinvigorate my brain #and being the inspiration i need to really get in my feels about complex storytelling and complex messy characters #and I am forever shocked that DISNEY of all entities allowed space for this kind of story to be told #fucking incredible i want ten more #i want ten more tightly knit and told stories that don't run for too long #honestly one of my biggest fears was having Dangerous Dreams unravel over the 3quelfic but i think i'm okay #Andor tells me I'll be okay and I can tell the rest of this Din Djarin story to you guys #and then I'll be free to go nucking futs on that one Mummy 1999 AU idea #ANYWAY back to NaNo and that dinluke positivity week fic

[guccifloralsuits]

okay i am so so sorry, i asked you a question and i am a larry (i ship them, im pretty sure they were real, but theyre both happy now, no hate to eleanor) im so sorry i didnt take your description seriously, you can ignore my ask,

It’s fine I prob answered it if it’s not about l*rry, I just don’t support the way people still conspiracy ship 2 men who haven’t been seen together in years while multiple band members have spoken about how harmful doing so has been & 1/2 of your ship has asked you to stop making theories, repeatedly, bc it makes them uncomfortable

#asks #if you ever decide to stop being a l*rry I’m open to talking though #update: it’s the next asks I answer it’s fine I just don’t want you following & know that I think shipping RL people is fucked up

[proudfreakmetarusonniku]

me: yeah I used to identify as a pro shipper but I don’t anymore because im not seventeen anymore and realised fiction and reality is a complex issue that cannot be summed up in one or two buzzwords. both sides have really good and really bad people and points, which people on the other don’t realise because it’s weirdly encouraged to send harassment to people and that keeps an endless war going on.

yes, fiction can spread negative ideas and bad messaging, but most of the time it’s genuinely people who don’t know any better and they need education and not shaming. not every depiction is intended to be an endorsement, and there’s a massive disconnect between people who define shipping as simply neutrally finding a dynamic interesting and thinking it’s somewhat positive at least that leads to mass miscommunication. thinking critically about your interests is important and fun but it’s okay to like things in a mindless way. literally like 90% of this whole discourse could be solved if antis and pro shippers literally just talked to each other because this whole thing is primarily severe miscommunication between people saying “dark fic is fine and cool” and “you can spread harmful messaging through fiction and you probably shouldn’t” which are not mutually exclusive and shouldn’t be.

99% of people on both side are lovely people who are biased through having a bad experience with the other side because the discourse breeds extreme toxicity and the 1% of people who are dickheads take advantage of that and turn decent people into harassers and influence them to have bad takes. i've probably had shitty takes in the past when i was seventeen and i appreciate being told that but also people change.

this whole thing is pointless bullshit between two points that both vary from very based to fucking awful depending on the person arguing for them and it’s fucking stupid to get involved which is why i've stopped doing it because it’s literally the dumbest thing and i do not give a fuck. people need to realise this is a complex issue and it cannot be boiled down to approaches that don’t work when followed to absolutes.

also, writing rpf of minors that is sexual literally makes me sick and is genuinely an incredibly fucked up morally bad thing but the worst part of the communities that do it is the fact they’re literally full of grooming and very literal cp not like written stuff as in actual real pictures of real children and i don’t think that should be ignored and kids that escape from that deserve support and sympathy because they were probably groomed.

some people, for some reason: metaru is totally a pro shipper, totally a paedophile despite being seventeen when they identified with that term and totally thinks shipping rl minors is ok and I am going to harass their friends over this. people cannot change ever.

like, seriously, just harass me instead I wouldn’t give a shit about that hate me block me whatever just leave my friends alone please? this has been happening for MONTHS direct the shit into my inbox not theirs.

#literally like I wouldn’t give a shit if you were sending me death threats or whatever #i just feel bad yall are harassing anyone who ever interacts with me? #please stop? #discourse

[supop]

I read your entries on Jimin and VL/ML and maaaan, you’re spot on and I’m a HARD CORE Jimin stan though RL are my wreckers. I’ve been following BTS since forever and it’s just fucked up that the rappers aren’t given the deserved recognition for carrying the entire group on their backs, especially j-hope. Yes, I’ve been accused by my fellow PJMs for being a traitor but talent is talent, you can’t deny it. I don’t give a fuck anymore at this point cos all I know is, I worry for Jimin, like A LOT! He doesn’t look too well in recent years and this insane obsession by us Jimin stans to always make him the perfect idol makes it even worse.

I appreciate your honesty anon. It’s hard to admit someone you admire isn’t always deserving of the pedestal everyone attempts to place them on. Yoongi is my bias, but even I can admit he has areas where he’s less than a “genius”. Which is fine because we’re all human and humans have a tendency to not be perfect. Granted, it’s never wise to place anyone on a pedestal, but that aspect goes beyond k-pop, so I digress.

Your last sentence made me realize that often times we reprimand fans for obsessing over their idols, not realizing the ripple effect it causes to the idol’s image. Jimin has a lot of insecurities (like most of his), and being in the spotlight has the tendency to exacerbate those insecurities. As if people watching your me every move isn’t bad enough, imagine if those same people refuse to except you have flaws like everyone else. We can chalk this up to fan culture but I think the biggest issue is when fans constantly make an effort to build and broadcast an image, that even their idol is incapable of reaching.

It’s sad because I’m pretty sure the reason Jimin stopped mentioning making music is because he doesn’t want to give his fans any false hope. It doesn’t take a genius to know he’s lacking in that department and HYBE’s “you guys have to make your mixtapes on your own” policy doesn’t go in his favor. I wonder if he ever looks in the mirror and think “why do people like me?” since the cutie sexy act can only go so far.

It also doesn’t take a genius to know that BTS’s current state of popularity is incredibly unstable and unsustainable in the long run. Their fandom is already split into fractions thanks to HYBE’s marketing and tendency to push some members more than others, and they’ve been leaning (relying) more heavily on shipping content the last recent years. There’s a difference between building an organic loyal fan based off of music alone and using gimmicks to build quicker emotional bonds between your artist and their fans. And if there’s one thing we all know about people’s emotions is that it’s fleeting. BTS can always explore different genres with their music, but the moment any other circumstance regarding their popularity changes, is the moment that parts of their already fragile fanbase collapses. In short, I hate to say it, but there’s a very high possibility that BTS has already peaked as a group, and if they haven’t yet, then they will soon.

It sounds ominous, but for some members, BTS will probably be the end of of their music career as they know it. For others, they’ll reach even greater (or at the very least) more fulfilling heights if they decide to pursue a solo career path. Hopefully, the ones that have the potential to do so can move forward boldly and not allow the less than capable members to hold them back.

#supop thoughts #asks #bts #jimin #vocal line #rapline #maknae line #hyung line #hoseok #yoongi #namjoon #taehyung #jungkook #jin #bts thoughts

[gra-sonas]

I love you but please PLEASE stop shipping Tyler and Michael irl, whenever you say something people take it as godspeak and we all know Michael is straight and, last we knew Tyler was in a committed relationship. You stopped identifying as bisexual but you shouldn't throw us all under the bus

Okay, my first reaction upon reading your ask was IGNORE IT, my second was MOCK IT (at least the part about Vlamburn). But it's been a couple of hours since you sent it, and I'm going to answer in earnest bc it really irks and upsets me.

First of all: I couldn't possibly ship them any harder than they ship themselves. If asked, I'm sure they'd very much agree with me describing what they are doing as flirting (or something similar). And there's nothing wrong with that? It's all harmless fun and feeds into our excitement for Malex. Big fucking deal.

However, I'm under no illusion that they could possibly be a couple irl. Apart from identifying as straight, Vlamis is clearly very happy in his relationship with Aurora (and vice versa), and I have the utmost respect for that (they are cute af together, and I wish them nothing but eternal happiness, if anything, I'm shipping their love!).

Tyler's personal life/relationship status on the other hand is exactly that: personal. I appreciate everything he's sharing, but I'm not going to speculate about intimate details (I get tons of asks about that regularly, and they all remain unanswered bc it's none of my fucking business 🤷‍♀️).

So, am I going to stop doing what I do regarding Vlamburn on social media or the way I post about them? Hell no, why would I? It's all harmless fun and very much on par with what they are doing. There's nothing "inappropriate" or "disrespecting" about my posts, and honestly, if there are people who can't differentiate between the harmless flirty fun they are providing, and assuming they are fucking irl, that's on them, not me.

I'm not responsible for how people read their relationship - which imo is that of two colleagues (who also happen to be good friends) who are clearly very fond of each other, adore each other, and have zero issues with intimacy, innuendo, or riling each other up in the comment sections. Do I believe they are a couple or fuck irl? No, I don't. Do I imply any of that in my posts? Also no.

They are (willingly and fully aware) playing into a fantasy, where sometimes the lines between the fictional couple they play on screen, and their rl friendship can get a bit blurry, but never in a way that would make me think there's actually more.

If anyone else does that, that's their thing (and I'm not shaming here, just keep it away from the actors), but I'm certainly not running an RPF blog here, where I promote the illusion that they are secretly a couple.

whenever you say something people take it as godspeak

Uhm... WHAT??? I'm fairly certain that's not the case. I have zero authority (least of all any kind of godly authority) over anyone. We're all just fans here. I happen to have an active blog, yes, but I'm only stating my personal opinion here, and I'm trying to provide information and facts, and that's it.

I'm not here telling anyone what to ship, how to ship it, or what not to ship. And really, for all I care, as long as no harm is done to any real persons (especially the actors themselves), if people want to ship Vlamburn "for real", go forth and do whatever floats your boat. RPF is first and foremost a fantasy, a what-if. And lbr, these two make it REALLY easy to imagine things.

I understand that it's not for everyone, and the concept of RPF/RP shipping makes a lot of people feel uncomfortable. And that's perfectly valid. No one has to like it.

But again, unless the actors are being roped into anything, are made feeling uncomfortable, or people do shit like attack Aurora for being with Vlam (to my knowledge none of this has happened, and I hope to god that it never will!), and as long as it's strictly kept in fandom circles, I have no issues with it.

You stopped identifying as bisexual but you shouldn't throw us all under the bus

And this is the part of your ask where I got angry and irritated and then really upset. What the everloving fuck are you talking about???

Last time I checked (THIS VERY SECOND), I'm as bisexual as ever. I've fought fucking hard to claim that label for myself, and just bc I also happen to identify as demi/gray-A, that doesn't make me any less bisexual.

Demi for me is just an additional identifier that describes a little more closely how I feel. I don't identify as asexual tho. I love and cherish the ace community, and I feel very close to them, but I am 100% bisexual, and no one gets to tell me I'm not. Fucking hell. How dare you!

Srsly, I'm so pissed about this. Do you have any idea how hard it is to come to terms with how you feel, how fucking hard it is to find labels that might fit, and then claim any of them for yourself, always doubting, always worrying you're not "bi enough"?

And then some holier-than-thou queer police asshole on the internet comes along and tells you you're not what you know is your truth? Don't ever do that to anyone else, it fucking sucks.

Thanks for making me angry and upset, I really didn't need that today (or any other day).

And really, where and how am I "throwing anyone under the bus"??? The way I identify has nothing to do with this blog, the way I post, and least of all with whether anyone thinks Vlamburn are more than friends/colleagues.

Man, next time you consider sending an ask like this to someone you claim you "love", think again. And then don't type any of this BS into a tiny box and send it to a real person.

Thanks for making an otherwise happy day unnecessarily more shitty.

#nonnie asks #fucking hell i'm so upset wtf

[spaceorphan18]

Question, since I was not around during the time the show was airing. So I know Crisscolfer (is that what they’re called?) was huge, probably the biggest of the rl actor ships, but I also know that there were so many people that massively shipped Achele and Heya. So, if the crazy CC shippers caused Chris and Darren to distant themselves in public, why wasn’t it the same for Heya (and Achele)? Did Heather and Naya not have any reaction to the crazy invasive people? Did they just not care? Because even after the crazy shipping started, they were still so affectionate both publicly and over social media.

I’m just wondering why it went so far for Darren and Chris.

So, first of all, I don't know how Diana and Lea or Naya and Heather reacted to their fans shipping each other. I can't tell you how they acted. I know zero things about Diana and Lea. But with Naya and Heather, from what I can tell, seemed to mostly shrug it off. They are bffs, and liked to play that up a bit. I also think that neither of their significant others were as harassed as, perhaps, others (I'll get to that in a second.) I also think, at the end of the day, it didn't bother Heather or Naya to be seen as a couple.

I want to state, first, that these are my observations. I do not know Chris or Darren personally, and so this is only from my third party view point. So, please keep that in mind...

Chris and Darren have a lot of other, more complicated (?) things going on.

First, let's talk about Chris. I think sometimes what is forgotten is that he was a literal child coming into the industry from a very sheltered and conservative place. It can be quite shocking to see how fans react to things on a big scale, and for someone who is deeply private and, as I said in the earlier post, deeply individualistic -- being tied to his costar like that upset him a lot.

(There's also a part of Chris that likes to control things - and not being able to control his image, especially his sexual image, seems to be something that has been hard for him. He's seems to have come to terms with it -- but I think it took him a long, long time, especially with people tell him he'd never be any kind of sex symbol, to deal with the idea that people write sex stories about him and his likeness.)

Now - RPS has been a thing forever, and honestly, it used to be a thing that people didn't necessarily believe, they just enjoyed the fiction. I know there were blogs dedicated to CrissColfer that were just fun fic blogs. No one believed it. They just liked to read about it. And honestly, while it's not my cup of tea -- it's fine. The real people are not supposed to be a part of that.

The problem becomes when people a) believe that it's reality and b) cross the line and start effecting the actors' real lives. (As an aside -- this isn't a unique phenomenon -- this kind of stuff happens all the time, which is unfortunate, because it does ruin the experience for actors.)

I think what people might not know, or have forgotten, is that Chris shot to fame really, really quickly. And with that come the crazies. He had a literal stalker for years that we all knew about because she was pretty vocal on the forums and LJ. I know that one reason he moved from his first house is because a group of fans rented out the house behind him and spied on him. People do some really stupid shit when it comes to famous people. And, for someone who, again, is very deeply private and wanting control of his own voice -- this is a part of fame that Chris has been vocal about HATING.

So, when the whole CrissColfer thing started to get out of control sometime in season 4-ish, Chris shut down and out of social media almost completely. (I think there were other factors, too, such as Cory's death and feeling tired of being on the show.)

I think one thing that didn't help (though he's perfectly right to his privacy) is how closed off Chris became about his life. Take Heather and Naya -- they're (were) on social media all the time. Their lives were public enough that (while they showed you probably what you wanted to see or only what they wanted you to see) you, as a fan, feel like you are a part of their life. You aren't, in reality. (which is its own set of problems.) But it makes you feel connected. And Chris disconnected that connection. Which just made people speculate more.

I also think -- around the time he shut down was around the time he started dating Will. Chris is a savvy guy, and, if I had to guess, wanted to protect that relationship -- which we know is rather special, because they've been together for eight years. Do we know that much about Will? Not really. And I'm totally cool with that. Because that's their prerogative. And I respect that.

As an aside -- I have seen first hand some of the stuff they try to pull with Chris. I was a children's event (CHILDREN'S event) where grown women were in the first row, taking photos of his ass, and continued to do so even after he asked them to stop. (my god, I was embarrassed for them.) I don't blame him for shutting people out, because it's truly disheartening to see people act that way.

Meanwhile... Darren. Darren's pretty public about how he mostly thought the whole thing was funny. But was respectful enough to Chris (I'm pretty sure they had a long conversation(s) about how to be in public) to not get too into. But it didn't stop him from, like, mentioning his name while doing Hedwig. If Chris wasn't Chris but someone more open like Naya or Heather, I'm sure Darren wouldn't have minded playing it up a bit. Because I don't think he cares about what other people think about him the same way Chris does.

However, there is one thing Darren does care very much about -- and where he draws a line -- and that's Mia. Mia is his wife. And he loves her very, very deeply. That is a fact. Not my opinion. A fact. And since Darren is the more open of the two, the tinhatters seem to have latched onto Darren (and his sexuality) and this weird obsession that Mia is either bad for him or a beard or whatever.... And they've done some crazy shit.

Now, one of the cool things about Mia is that she's been able to take it (at least publicly) with stride. At the end of the day, she's well aware that she's going to go home and fuck him and you aren't and neither is Chris Colfer. And who really cares about the rest of it. She's also a rather strong woman who doesn't need Darren's defending. But I've seen videos of stuff thrown at Mia, which has been nasty, and Darren step up to defend her. Because that crosses his line. And they've been doing throwing this stuff at her for nearly ten years now.

It's tiresome. It's tiresome for me and I'm not Chris or Darren. So I don't blame either of them for being over it. And the easiest way to do that is to avoid each other. I don't know if that puts anything in perspective nonny, but at least you now know some of the history.

#that's how s.o. sees it #ooofff

[incarnateirony]

"I get a lot of support in private. People want to stay off his radar, so they don’t say it in public, but I did this for my fellow Destiel fans who hate how toxic his cult has made this side of the fandom." -- waitwaitwait, bringing toxicity to the destiel lane, being snide and petty and making others feel judged and mocked is supposed to be a good thing? in what world does deliberately perpetuating negativity = a plus for those who don't want a toxic shipping environment??

The people he's appealing to are, themselves, incredibly toxic people. They're literally trying to play victim for me reacting to 2po's doxxing attack on my server, where I left a simple message. Because while I don't declare who people can casually hang out with, I don't allow people trying to cause real world harm to just sit in my house. They literally feel entitled to treat fandom like a warzone, invade safe spaces, take shits on the floor however they want, and clutch their pearls if anyone puts up a boundary. Or like... defends themselves from doxxing or physical threats.

OH, or he could be talking about the people that tried to hijack admin permissions to delete my server just because they were told to stop chasing people across four channels to harass them, and this clearly was me being hitler and demanded a coup.

That's the kind of people he's uwu'ing on behalf of. All he does is bring persistent anti negativity into the fandom. Just scroll his goddamn WALL of his psych break of anti spam today, then he makes confused moose noises and tries to put on a 2 IQ confused innocent face going "IDK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT." [spams gifs for a day until everyone forgets.]

What he calls a cult is "people watching the show," and "me having a limit on the abuse I allow people to subject me to within my own server, whether direct or indirect by exploitation and unreasonable emotional labor for people that aren't invested anyway."

Like. I can't emphasize enough this dude puts off rapist vibes. like. BEYOND his DM advocacy for RL incest. Boundaries are optional to him. Nobody is allowed a safe space. Nobody can defend themselves from him. It's fine for him to doxx whoever he wants, threaten whoever he wants, and spend the entire day trying to treat fandom like WWIII even with people trying to mind their own shit in their own space. But the fact that he isn't allowed to INFEST that space drives him batshit. The fact that every effort of breaking into my security permissions (A VERY STRANGE THING FOR SOMEONE TO DO THAT LIKES TO CLAIM I HAVE NO SOURCES) has washed out just makes him froth at the fucking mouth.

It's also why he's shaking like he has palsy worse than I do or something to deny the alchemists hired on set that. have it. in. their bio. and post. about it. As does the crew. While they all say it means something. But he is sitting here like literally shaking with rage, because that's ***WHERE*** his high pitched cult shrieking started, before he migrated it across to the audacity of me having a patreon (and confusing me with TheySilencedYou and coming at me about THEIR patreon). All while, of course, he himself was ripping dozens of thousands out of fandom to ride gold panels. Irony has no bounds.

That's ***why*** he can't accept any of this shit. Because well, that's where his fucking shrill teakettle noises started, and if people are telling the truth about pitches, it'd be awful awkward if the entire crew was tweeting out my mythos bible of the last four years nonstop, so NOBODY LOOK, NOTHING MEANS ANYTHING.

When you peel out his "MONEY GRIFTER" screeching at me bc I'm an artist with a patreon and compare it to his 50K fandom gold panel cruising; When you peel his "CULT, TRYING TO CONVERT PEOPLE TO WITCHERY" Christian Moral Panic shit out and compare it to the crew hired posting right now and Lata calling that shit out even in canon; All you have left is a very angry little incest-porn-watching basement dwelling man targeting an entire server of people with threats, doxxing, extortion and mass targeted harassment who has been goddamn wrong every step of the way and is taking out his fury on the people that were right the whole time.

That's it. That's all he is. Even his M&Gs aren't special, anyone could be a M&G funnel and probably better without blowing up his sources so easily like he did gayle and suzanne to make them followable for violations.

[miragesbian]

Tardy to the party but 🤢 + your Ryder(s) roast the problem twins

FORGOT TO REPLY TO THIS. i have 3 ryders actually (wes is 6ish yrs older than the boys, who r identical) so u get. three.

WES:

more serious: she's emotionally distant and hated the idea of potentially being sacked with her family's needs (bc she was close to the boys but did end up having to help raise them growing up and she hated having 2 b responsible) that when they got sent to earth, she would constantly disappear to live at temporary girlfriend's houses, leaving for months at a time, sending money home to help but not giving up her room or rly being present. she would pick fights with wyatt about it a lot too bc wyatt worked at a small lab running samples to help contribute but wes just did odd jobs and fucked around. a lot of emotional constipation.

the less serious: she had a kid with an asari in her matriarch yrs, didnt know it, and the kid showed up having lived aboard a space ship for 600 yrs chasing the arks lmao. she straight up slept w so many women for funsies that she didnt stop to question why one of the women SHE could get pregnant just. disappeared in her life JFJKALFKFJKS

WREN

the more serious: he has horrible parental/caretaker syndrome from fulfilling the mom and dad roles while ellen was dying and alec was working/with her at the hospital. on the upside he got good at a LOT of thinge bc of it (keeping house, cooking, cleaning, balancing bank accts, house repairs/upkeep, even growing plants!); but on the other his only rl coping skill was drinking and crying himself to sleep while alone and so coming to Andromeda he struggled to break from the support/parent role to be an actual leader. its a process.

the less serious: he straight up will not inform people of changes. in modern au his parents didnt know he was moving out until he moved out. he got a cat and his friends only knew when one went to use the bathroom and met the cat. theres private, and theres whatever the hell wren is.

WYATT

srs: hes so fucking mean! hes mean esp to wes! hes not cruel hes just rude and blunt and he makes wes feel like an asshole and he specifically doesnt get along with peebee because peebs is dating wes! he has so much bitterness inside him about that! he eventually softens up when he meets his niece but, oh my god!

less srs: please tell people you are the pathfinder's twin instead of just answering "no" when they go "omg r u the pathfinder???" this is getting to be confusing for people

#long post #text heavy #SORRY WAAAH THIS IS LONG #wes ryder #wren ryder #wyatt ryder #ask memes #uwu

[matan4il]

I was tagged by the lovely Cookie in two end of the year writing memes. I’m combining them here to avoid too much spam...

Writer Interview

Name(s): Alice (username matan4il)

Fandom(s): currently 911 (Buddie in terms of the ship I mostly write)

Where you post: AO3. Tumblr sometimes, until I have the energy to post that to AO3, too.

Most Popular One Shot (by kudos) Overall/this year: Hmmmm. When Jerusalem Bells Are Ringing (400 kudos) was first posted, it was a one shot, but now it’s a part of a series. Same for Fuck Me Yourself, You Coward (390 kudos) and It Will Last Longer (380 kudos). So I guess the answer is... The Swirl of Color and Water (341 kudos).

Most Popular Multi-Chapter (by kudos) Overall/This Year: Blue Against Blue (457 kudos).

Favorite story you’ve written so far: The idea that I can freaking choose! But... maybe I will nominate two fics that didn’t appear anywhere else, which are Every Journey and Dancing Where the Stars Go, because they were the most different in terms of writing style, so I’m really proud of that.

Fic you were nervous to post: Every single one. And I mean, anxious on a physical level. But I guess the one I was most anxious about was Winter Wonders ‘coz (a) I’m always more nervous when a fic has a recipient, I want them to like it and (b) I didn’t know how people will react to the magical elements I infused into the fic.

How do you choose your titles? Oh God, titles and summaries are the worst! I guess I try to use song lyrics (for example: Soulmate, Dry Your Eye), a quote that fits (Forever Hold Your Peace, which is actually a play on Eddie being the silent type, but also being the keeper of Buck’s internal peace), words lifted out of the fic itself (Blue Against Blue), trying to fit some of the themes of the fic into an awkward phrase (Found Ourselves Dancing in This Masquerade) or even some words that randomly pop in my head and I can’t stop thinking about them (So Grows My Heart with Every Line)...

Do you outline? Never. Not even when I was writing Blue Against Blue, which is based on a movie, did I outline the parts I wished to change/add/move around. I just go with what feels natural as I write, in terms of progression and trying to link it to whatever ideas I had in mind when I started writing the fic.

Upcoming work you’re most excited about:

I’m excited to be posting The Love Languages of Christopher Diaz (when I drafted this, it wasn’t posted yet), as well as completing fics I had started posting, i.e Found Ourselves Dancing in This Masquerade, the Buddie rom com AU that I hope will be just as fun to read once it’s completed as it is in my head, and Footprints in the Sands of Prayer, because we deserve wing fic, damnit!

AO3 stats (for 2020)

(but before I do this, let’s remember Benjamin Disraeli was not wrong when he said there are three types of lies - terrible, truly terrible and statistics)

amount of works posted: 41

total word count: 206,016

longest fic: Blue Against Blue (77310 words)

shortest fic: The Lyrical (97 words)

fic with the most kudos: Blue Against Blue

fic with the most bookmarks: Blue Against Blue

fic with the most comment threads: Blue Against Blue

total amount of kudos: 7074

total amount of bookmarks: 1012

total amount of comment threads: 1127

fandoms written for: 911/Buddie

fandom events you’ve written for: Crack Week (which I co-ran), First Kiss Week (which I co-ran), 911 Appreciation Week, PWP Week, 911 POC Week, 911 POC Appreciation Week, Trick or treat Buddie Discord fic exchange, Secret Elf Buddie Discord fic exchange, Buddie Week, 911 Xmas Week, 911 Merry Xmas Advent, Buddie Discord Advent.

pairings written for: Buddie

favorite fic you’ve written this year: see above in writer interview

goals for next year: Just to enjoy writing and posting!

Tagging my writer friends (in case you haven’t done it already, if you did, sorry! I hate rl making me so late!), and if you’re a writer and I wasn’t aware or I’m having a blanking out moment, please do this too as a tag from me! xoxox

@adamngoodbuck @missjmelville @nilshki @novemberhush @bicepsie @from-nova @afstory1988 @meloingly @cirrius-akiyo @sivan325 @faewithfangs @tarlosbuddie @loveyourownsmiilee @siflovesbuddie @letswearyellow @doctornineandthreequarters @mansikkaomenabanaani @toughpaperround @tylerhunklin @tabbytabbytabby @agnesclementineblog @ronordmann @gracieli @cinematicnomad @bamfbuddie @imyourbuddie @theycallmebobbob @roguesourwolf @fyeahbuddie @bvckleydiaz @indiguus @therogueheart @agentmarymargaretskitz @inawickedlittletown @woodchoc-magnum  @halinski @teambuddie-118 @harknessjack @diazbuckleysworld

#buddie #buddie fic #911 fic #911fic #9-1-1 #tumblr games #tumblr shenanigans #writing #fandom love #911 on abc #911abc #911 abc

[voxofthevoid]

Taking It Up The Ass Isn’t Character Growth - A Rant

So, in response to an ask a while back, I said I had a rant brewing on fandom and sex positions, and well, a lot of you wanted to see it, so here you go. You literally asked for it.

Disclaimer: This is going to talk a lot about top/bottom roles in slash fic and fandom attitude towards them and is heavily filtered through the lens of my own tastes and experiences with fandom. I’d also like to be upfront that I am 100% in favor of people writing whatever fictional content they want, and it’s not what fandom does with characters that bothers me but rather how that translates into attitudes towards real, live people. Also, this is the essay version of a slow burn AU because I regurgitate my entire fandom history before getting to the point. Beware.

I discovered fan-fiction around a decade ago, had no clue what the hell it was, got hooked and dived deeper. I started participating in fandom circa 2013, and I was fairly young and also completely inexperienced both sexually and romantically. The fandom in question was Hannibal and my ship of choice was Hannibal/Will. It was/is a very chill fandom in general, but we had our drama. And chief among the contentious topics was—you guessed it—the top/bottom debate. I can’t actually remember any other topic that was discussed and argued for so ardently in that fandom, at least in those days. Even after I drifted away, I came across a few posts on the matter.

Generally, you had two camps—people who supported strict roles and those who were in favor of switching*. And because we’re a society plagued by illogical assumptions, the strict role camp mostly had people who thought Mr. Big Bad Cannibal in the Fancy Suits wouldn’t take it up the ass because he’s older, more experienced, more mentally stable, and of course, more ‘dominant’ in personality. Yes, that sentence is chock full of problematic shit. I am aware. Lots of people were aware and argued strongly against attributing top/bottom roles to personality. I don’t remember anyone arguing as enthusiastically for Top Will, but those voices were also there. But the general idea was that assigning strict top/bottom roles to a male/male couple was casting them in a heterosexual mold and thus, the progressive option was to make them switch. Strict roles also garnered comparisons to “yaoi” and uke/seme stereotypes, which was of course bad and fetishizing and we, the Western media fans, of course had to do better. Stealth racism is fun to untangle.

Anyway, I lapped up the woke juice. Partly because I was a baby queer from Buttfuck Nowhere, Asia, who had zero exposure to LGBT+ communities and what queer folks did with each other. Partly because it was the stance taken by most of my favorite writers so it seemed like a good position to emulate.

Emulate it I did. Most discussions I had about this happened in private with the handful of close friends I had in fandom. Where it really showed was in my writing. I made sure to write switching—maybe not in every fic, but then I alternated between fics. Thing is though, I did have a preference. I liked Top Will. I created and consumed a ton of Top Hannibal, and sometimes it was okay, sometimes it was not, but I couldn’t pinpoint why it made me uncomfortable. Back then, I thought I was a cis questioning/bi girl and once again, the impression I got was that not being MLM, having a preference was automatic fetishization. So I tried my best to justify my preferences, to my friends at least. I think what I said was that fandom was skewed towards Top Hannibal, and I liked the opposite because I’m a contrary fuck. Which I am, to be fair, but this was just me desperately trying to figure shit out without being offensive.

That’s the line I touted all the way until 2018, which was when I fucked off to grad school in A City, finally freed of Buttfuck Nowhere and able to actually date. At this point, I was settled in my sexuality (girls only) and questioning my gender (non-binary or trans guy). I had also tentatively figured out during undergrad that I’m an exclusive top and a Dom. Actual attempts at dating cemented that, yes, those are my preferences, about as flexible as a steel rod. Cue motherfucking epiphany over my fanfic tastes.

And see, over these years, I was engaging intermittently with fandom. I dutifully wrote switch couples. I also continued to have rigid tastes and continued to explain it away as being a contrary fuck—to be fair, until Steve/Bucky, my preference did seem to be the opposite of the larger fandom preference. But correlation, as we know, isn’t causation. Until Steve/Bucky, I continued to write versatile couples because I honestly didn’t have the guts to just say I liked it just one way. I do now but even then, I feel compelled to add that it’s because I want to see my own taste reflected in fic, so I write/read the character I relate to as a top, it's not that deep etc. Would I be as forthright if I didn’t have that reason? Would I have such strict preferences in fic if I didn’t have strict preferences IRL? The latter’s a mystery, but the former isn’t—I wouldn’t be because fandom is still entrenched in the same ideas that got me to this point to begin with.

In every fandom I’ve been in, I’ve seen some version of this debate go around. Sometimes, it’s one party saying “why would you write Character X as a bottom, he’s so Reason A” and a reblog chain that insults the OP and/or extols the virtues of switching. Sometimes, it’s a general-ish message that says they don’t understand why people have strict preferences when we all know real gay couples switch. Sometimes, it’s blanket statements that accuse anyone with preferences of fetishizing. Sometimes, it’s the same reasoning that gets you “Character Y is a top because of Reason B” transposed on versatile couples except this takes the form of “they switch because they’re equals.”

Ya’ll, I’m fucking tired.

I have long since lost count of the number of stories I’ve seen where an exclusive top learning bottom and liking it is character growth. Where a character who prefers to bottom taking a turn on top is empowering.

Isolated, these are fine. But I’ve seen enough of such stories that it’s distinctly discomfiting and a major squick. Sometimes a trigger, if I'm too immersed in the story. I’m not going to try and burn an author at the stake because they pissed me off. I am just going to close that window and quietly handle my shit. People can write whatever they want. But this one theme hits too close to home, as you can see from this 1.6k rant.

My friend (also my ex-girlfriend) and I had an all-out bitching session about this the other day. Both of us are kinky fuckers who have rigid, complementary roles we prefer and we have both had our grueling days of struggling to reconcile our sexual tastes with our ideologies precisely because of how these things are frowned upon in conservative and progressive circles. Seeing that in fandom, of all places, is both insulting and exhausting. Topping and bottoming aren’t personality traits. Neither is D/s. It’s sexual preference and power play. It really does not have to be that deep. I am not exorcising childhood trauma using the bodies of women. My partners, former and current, have not been brainwashed by the patriarchy. We will not become better, more complete individuals once I magically stop being a stone top and my partners embrace the joys of a strap-on.

I have, with my own two eyes, seen someone say that in a really committed relationship, of course the couple will switch.

Bullshit.

It’s transparent bullshit. This does not get attributed to cisgender M/F couples. Even when the automatic assumptions of woman = bottom and man = top get addressed, switching isn't presented as the default. No one’s saying “oh, if you really love your husband, you’ll peg him”. I do know butch/femme sapphic couples get their own share of shit. Because it’s all heteronormativity, right? Can’t have any other reason for top/bottom roles.

You have two extremes with “so who’s the woman” on one end and “it’s woke only if they switch” on the other, and as far as I’m concerned, they’re equally damaging. There shouldn’t be a pressure, however subtle, to conform your taste in fiction to some arbitrary idea of progressiveness. People are going to like whatever they want anyway; all this does is create an atmosphere where those likes can’t always be freely expressed without a lot of mental gymnastics. We’re seeing so many versions of this in the pushback against so-called problematic content, but smaller, subtler versions exist too.

Fictional characters aren’t real. They can be whatever you want them to be. And yes, other people will often want them to be the exact opposite of your ideas, but that’s just how things work. Meanwhile, the people behind these usernames? They’re real. No one should be throwing real people under the bus to ‘protect’ characters that don’t exist. Hannibal Lecter doesn’t care whether he gets fucked or dismembered in Author B’s fanfiction, but the discourse that surrounds the dick up his ass? That does affect flesh and blood people.

I am not claiming that this is the only attitude in fandom. Middlegrounds do exist. Plenty of people abide by fic and let fic and there are folks who pipe up to say not every RL queer couple switches. But it’s often the extremes that reach most people. That was certainly my experience, and I’m not the only one.

I don’t really know how to end this post. It is 100% a rant and one that’s been building up for a while. Bottom line is that people’s sexual behavior varies wildly and whenever you attack sexual tastes in fanfic by saying it’s unrealistic - or worse because let’s be real, that’s a very tame word choice - please remember that there’s likely someone out there who practices it.

* I’m using switch and versatile synonymously in this post. It’s mostly concerned with top/bottom debates. A lot of what I’m saying is also echoed in portrayals of and discussions surrounding D/s dynamics, but I’m not addressing that as much for now.  

#fandom #top bottom discourse #wow that's a tag #here it is the rant i promised #because i don't quite trust tumblr i feel compelled to add that this is ofc not some kind of attack on actual people who switch either #you do you man #live your best life #vox has opinions

[my-artblog-is-ssjumi]

Tagged by @northernscruffycat

tagging everyone who sees this on their dash right now and hasn't been tagged yet (no pressure tho lol) and @19elaine

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How many works do you have on AO3?

14 (out of 174)*

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What’s your total AO3 word count?

34.922 (out of 1.057.034)*

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How many fandoms have you written for and what are they?

Overall?

10: Yugioh DM, Linkin Park, Dragonball Z, Sailor Moon, Inuyasha, Detective Conan, Tokio Hotel, Death Note, Magic Knight Rayearth and The X-Files

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What are your top 5 fics by kudos?

Okay, Fugue, Absence, The Dope Show, Idiotheque

* the vast majority of my fic is posted in other places than AO3 tho

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Do you respond to comments? Why or why not?

Most of the time, yeah (if I don’t it’s usually bc i either didn’t notice i got a comment since the first thing i do when i make an account anywhere is turning off all notifications, or it’s because i posted to an archive that won’t let me respond *cough*LPF*cough*no shade tho, i know website programming is messy and hard and the site is old af and i’m glad it still exists at all)

As to why... idk, it’s polite? Like, it’s nice for the person who left the comment to know the time they spent on it is appreciated. And back in the olden days, answering comments via DM and getting into conversations through that is how i made a bunch of the folks i now consider my RL friends :3 (idk how well that would work nowadays where replies to comments are all public and stuff tho and some achives don’t even have DMs + the whole purity cult shit where ppl are afraid to have conversations about fictional stuff they like and all that. we’ll see next time i’m actually active in a fandom again lol XD)

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What’s the fic you’ve written with the angstiest ending?

ASDFGHJKJHGFDSAS MY FAV GENRE IS ANGST, HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO REMEMBER THAT? XDDD

idk man... i had a lot of fics end with suicides or hints that the main character's abuse will keep continuing after the end... like. A Lot. i've been an edgelord ever since i was a teen.

don't make me choose between my children ;o;

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Have you ever received hate on a fic?

I used to do MSTings back in the olden days on animexx and there were a few people who weren't particularly excited by that, yeah lol (nothing serious tho as far as i remember)

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Do you write smut? If so what kind?

eh, not rly. the smut-writing process just doesn't spark much joy for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Have you ever had a fic stolen?

i don't think so? at least not as far as i'm aware.

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Have you ever had a fic translated?

Okay was translated to Chinese and Russian, i think.

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Have you ever co-written a fic before?

my very first fic (X-Files) was a collab with a classmate, and ofc the above-mentioned MSTs were collabs as well :3

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What’s your all time favorite ship?

........... >:(

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What’s a WIP that you want to finish but don’t think you ever will?

Not Like This over on animexx, bc i hate unfinished business like that :,)

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What are your writing strengths?

creating strong "dude, that's kinda fucked up" vibes probably lol

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What are your thoughts on writing dialogue in other languages in a fic?

try to only do it if it's actually necessary and IF you do it, don't be a US American about it and do some fucking research and treat the language in question with respect.

because even if other countries and their languages may feel like far-away made-up places full of people who will never know you don't give a fuck to you... that's bs.

especially when you're writing ur fic in English and posting it on AO3 where ppl from all over the world can see it and will know about your complete and utter lack of fucks.

(the German example aside, this is especially true for languages that are literally spoked within your own country by oppressed minorities)

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What was the first fandom you ever wrote for?

the first fic i wrote while being aware of what fic is was for The X-Files.

the first fic i can remember writing before that as a kid was for Story of the Alps: My Annette lol (i don’t count it in my statistics tho bc i don’t have it anymore)

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What’s your favorite fic you’ve ever written?

that changes from day to day depending on my mood lmao

(also i already told you to stop trying to get me to choose between my children! >:o)

#tag game #fanfiction #long post

[futuregws]

Honestly you clogging up the tag is exhausting because you and your anons are incredibly miserable and out of touch from reality. Do I think Tom and z are dating? Yeah. Do I ship it? No bc shipping rl ppl is weird. But the behavior here on your blog is JUST as weird and disrespectful as fuck to me. It’s not that hard to leave Tom and Z alone. You and shippers are just two sides of the same exact coin, toxic in your own ways. So yeah. Stop tagging your gross speculation about their lives, thanks!

You better send this to the shippers using the tags for their posts then, and guess what I don't care what you say, it bothers you?? To bad, block me then if other people talking about this can tag Tom and Z I can too, now go learn some basic respect for people

#Tom Holland anon #Zendaya anon