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kittanthalos · 2 years
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jazzymarie1006 · 10 days
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Logan and Ororo in the two parter episode "One Man's Worth" are still so very great!
Warning: Long post is LONG!
First there's this gem of a scene. Not sure which is better. Logan believing that Ororo called him beautiful, Ororo telling Logan he's beautiful in his own way, or the implication that they've had more than one picnic (with or without Charles).
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The apple scene was great. Ororo knowing that Hawk would make a "Garden of Eden" parallel is too great.
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When the Timeline is being absolutely DESTROYED, Logan and Ororo run into each other's arms as Charles disappeared from existence.
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Which brings us HERE! A timeline where Magneto is leading the mutants in a war against machines and super humans. And Logan and Ororo are married! Also Logan took Ororo's last name, that's the only right answer.
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The close-up on the the rings was great! But it had me thinking... how were they even married in the first place sense Mutants clearly aren't treated as people? Did Morph turn into the Justice of the Peace again?
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Logan catching Ororo and making sure she's safe is great! Love to see it.
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Absolutely LOVE how Logan puts the claws away when Ororo says she believes Bishop and Shard. The fact that they weren't together in the main timeline had Logan so upset. You know he was just looking thoroughly through what Bishop and Shard were showing them!
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Ororo: My Dearling... would you condemned the whole world just to keep our love.
Logan: You bet I would. Why would I care about anything else?
This man didn't even hesitate! The kiss Ororo gave him was brief, but it of course shows that she’s also going to miss their marriage.
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Of course Logan was gonna go if Ororo was going. That's a no brainer!
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Later we get one of the BEST scenes in the show! Logan and Ororo are snitched on for being an interracial couple in the 1950s. And Logan immediately jumps into action when Ororo's insulted!
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Ororo is also the only person able to stop him. She couldn’t even stay mad at Logan!
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Logan coming in the save again! Ororo can NOT be in any form of danger around this man!
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After the mission to save Charles fails, Wolverine's ready to go back to where he and Ororo were before (this man said fighting a war alongside Magneto wasn't so bad!). Of course Ororo knew Logan wasn't going let Bishop and Shard down and he knew too!
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These two weren't apart from each other for few seconds while in the bad future!
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Logan really pretended to pass out JUST TO STEAL A KISS!
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How he wiped her tears!! I can't with them!!
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Just gonna get this outta the way... Charles fainting when Logan threatened him was hilarious! He rejected immediately! He does NOT like it when Ororo's upset with him!
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After Charles reads their mind, he quickly reveals that someone (Logan) doesn't want the mission to succeed! Of course this has Bishop ready to start blasting. Which gives us this line (which Charles most likely remembers later on).
Logan: I feel the way I feel bub. That don't mean I'd turn traitor!
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Watching this now should NOT have still been able to make me tear up!!
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After Logan says "Don't you leave me", the two kiss and the timeline is restored. The two are even seen hugging!
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The bit of flirting near the end!! The writers KNEW what they were doing!!
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Then Charles pulls up, reveals to us that he remembers what happened with the Alternate Duo and watches them briefly before leaving them alone. He knows that these two are willing to give up happiness with each other to do the right thing for the world!
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I love all of this so very much!
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ladyluscinia · 6 months
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I have rewatched the mean lesbians episode in hopes I would like them more the second time, but I'm afraid I'm still not vibing with it. Credit that they tried to undercut the "lesbians who drop in to give our main couple therapy" with the whole reveal it was game and Mary's little rant about their relationship "losing the magic", but like... did they really? Do Anne and Mary not successfully tee up the really touching BlackBonnet airing of grievances and reconciliation? Laughing at them a bit for being dorky doesn't change that they really didn't do much sabotaging, overall, so it's not like they weren't pushing them back together.
I mean, even Mary's whole rant happens after Anne leaves the room. By the time they really start telling us how this couple has their own foundation cracks and issues (vs the veneer of just keeping it interesting) and aren't a longstanding example of a healthy relationship, Anne is literally offscreen making a grand romantic gesture that will solve Mary's discontent. I know they are fitting a miscommunication arc into half an episode instead of 2-3 seasons, but the end result just feels like speedrunning a knock off of BlackBonnet's issues.
And that along with the fact they function as BlackBonnet mirrors first and characters second, it all just feels very... underwhelming (?) to me.
Like why do I care about Anne and Mary? Is the face stealing gimmick supposed to have hooked me? They also, imo, really fucked up by ending on a hug - it just spotlights the fact that, for all the sex jokes, they don't really bother to sell physical intimacy between the two. They maybe bump shoulders at the shop, sit in separate chairs in every scene in the house... honestly the best they do is the offscreen knife flicking. Which funny metaphor but like. Why can't the lesbians be into each other without the metaphor? Or am I supposed to think that Anne "burn the whole house down the second her wife admits she doesn't like swamp life" Bonny didn't pick up that Mary was maybe unhappy when they entirely stopped touching each other and replaced it with murder attempts.
Even a repeat of the offscreen joke but this time imply they are hardcore making out as Stede and Edward slip away would have probably hit better? (I'm assuming for some reason kissing was off the table, otherwise even more wtf why not just kiss?)
(Can you tell I've been thinking about the sorry state of femslash?)
Also I'd be remiss not to tie my dissatisfaction with Anne and Mary to my dissatisfaction with OFMD's prevailing approach to female characters. Spanish Jackie's entire thing is being so awesome and desirable that she has 20 husbands that all work for her, which is super fun. Mary Bonnet became a widowed girlboss with a Doug, which was also fun. Then suddenly we're meeting Zheng Yi Sao who is a girlboss Pirate Queen better than any man, and her right-hand woman that seems like a more stable and competent Edward/Izzy parallel, and her crew of only hyper-competent women... do you see how this is getting a bit repetitive?
Now we add Anne and Mary speedrunning BlackBonnet parallels to teach them a grand gesture romantic lesson? So... doing Stede and Edward but Better™?
Zheng Yi Sao still has time to get more interiority that could offset the whole "girlboss" gimmick which would help, but until that happens the only real female character standout to me is Archie - a woman who has something deeply wrong with her but has so far just kind of slotted in as a equal crewmember instead of the Competent Woman Character.
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pinetreesonfire · 9 months
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things that wouldn’t make sense if byler wasn’t endgame/canon or if milkvan IS canon/endgame:
- the airport hug (mike made that awkward, not will)
- mike not saying ily to el during the fight abt him not saying ily. might just be me but a pretty obvious way to get out of that fight is to say ily
- the painting. why include it all if milkvan is gonna be endgame?
- the last shot where el is in front and byler is together with the other couples. no show writer would place them like that not on purpose.
- the parallels between both jonathan and nancy AND vickie and robin
- the last shot AGAIN. seriously how does this not convince everyone? it’s what convinced me of byler endgame. if they wanted it, they could’ve had will go in front pick up the flower and el stayed behind with mike. super plausible but noooo, pair them up like couples
there’s more but this is the main stuff i thought of
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cozyforjate · 9 months
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What a season finale?!!!
It was a great episode, probably one of the best of the season for me but damn, i hate cliffhangers! Especially when there's a strike going on and you have no idea when the next season will air!
But it is what is… The only thing we can do now is pray for the strike to be over as soon as possible.
AMPTP, please pay your writers and actors!
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So lets talk about Spock and Chapel (and a little bit about Pike&Batel)
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The episode starts with Batel and Chapel helping the colonists. We learn that Chapel left the Enterprise early to start her Fellowship with Dr. Korby and Cayuga is basically her ride.
Can i just say that i love how SNW portrays their female characters? Batel and Chapel are 2 women who are really good at their jobs, love helping people, ambitious, strong, beautiful and charming!
The episode made a clear parallel between 2 relationships: Spock&Chapel and Pike&Batel.
At the beginning of the episode Batel and Chapel’s fates were unknown, both Spock and Pike were worried about losing the women that they love, but refused to give up hope and they were both ready to do whatever it takes to save them.
Both couples reunite at some point in the episode. Pike&Batel’s hug is lovely and sweet. Spock&Chapel holding each other’s hands in space is a beautiful and almost poetic moment. That scene was designed to look visually stunning and it did!
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If we quickly remember the status of both relationships:
Batel had a bumpy relationship with Pike at first, she even walked out on him bcoz just like Chapel, Pike had issues maintaining a serious relationship. But unlike Spock&Chapel, Pike&Batel fixed their problems bcoz Pike noticed his errors, they talked, they understood each other and made up!
Spock and Chapel still haven’t done that and we have to wait for season 3 to see them properly communicate again. But there’s still HOPE for them.
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“Hope” is one of the main themes of the episode. We have seen different characters talk about “hope” and use it as a motivation to keep fighting.
Una to Spock:
“I would never tell you not to hope.”
Pike to La’an:
“Sometimes... hope is a choice.”
Despite every single fact pointing to Christine’s death, Spock chooses not to lose hope.
“and Nurse Chapel, who I HOPE made it to the surface as well.”
“I have not given in to grief yet. Logic dictates we do not know Chapel's or Batel's fate. And until we do, the best chance we have to save them is if Enterprise takes out the Gorn's interference field.”
Hope is the thing that keeps him going. And i think, one of the reasons why he insisted he should be the one doing the space mission is bcoz he really believed that it might help save Christine’s life (and others').
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The zero gravity Gorn fight was amazing. Spock and Chapel defeating the Gorn together was so satisfying to me!
After that, they move towards each other and have an “almost” space hug. Beautiful! And then they slowly fly up together. The filming of the whole scene is breathtaking. Feels like a space dance in EV suits. As a big piece of Cayuga falls down, they reach for each other’s hands at the same time and hold so tight! Aww. The music, the scene… You get the sense that there’s HOPE. Against Gorn but also for Spock and Chapel too.
They energize still holding hands. Chapel seems pretty shook and Spock intensely watches her. He must be feeling so many things at once in that moment.
The way Spock loves Chapel is too pure.  He would do anything for her. ANYTHING. Vulcan emotions are stronger than human emotions. That’s why they suppress them. And what happens when they choose not to suppress them? Take a look at Spock! Ethan Peck has been doing an amazing job portraying a half Vulcan-half Human in love. But perhaps his feelings for Chapel can not even be described with the word love.
I have no words for what I feel.
Bcoz it’s more.
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Anyway, before they go Spock stops her. He wants to apologize but she doesn't let him. She tells him that they'll have time later. She smiles at him, eyes shining, holding his arm… Spock recognizes that look and that smile. Its Christine. His Christine. And he smiles back. There’s HOPE.
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Look guys, I don’t know if they’ll break up or decide to try again. All i know is, Spock and Chapel love each other. Despite their differences, despite Boimler’s “you’re doomed” BS, despite Chapel’s struggle with relationships&deep trauma, despite Spock’s struggle with human emotions… They LOVE each other. Feelings are there and not going anywhere.
Star Trek loves “on again - off again” relationships. So i predict Spapel be the new on/off relationship that will last for as long as the show goes on.
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I don't understand why you Byler shippers persist in thinking that Mike may like Will romantically. everyone is free to have their own opinion but for me you are exaggerating and you could get very upset when the fifth season comes out.Will is important for Mike I don't deny this but Mike felt his absence as his best friend,it also happened to me in real life,i’ve missed some of my friends but his behaviors are platonic and it shows. when he is with Eleven he is much more nervous because love has this effect,it is difficult to express himself with his girlfriend.I don't know what they will do with Will’s feelings for Mike but for me they made a big mistake to make him fall in love with Mike and then make him suffer so much, probably in the fifth season he will also be friendzoned or even his feelings may never be explored. I'm sorry but it's the truth, don't be disappointed if byler won't be canon so :)
please actually come back in my inbox and reply to this answer because i genuinely wanna know.
why do you think mike didnt hug will at the airport?
i dont know how antibylers interpret this scene and im curious to know. why wouldnt mike hug his best friend since kindergarten after not seeing him for like 8 months? and dont say its because mike knows how will feels, the duffers and finn have confirmed that mike has no idea.
why do you think mike couldnt say he loves el as she was SOBBING in front of him because he couldnt say it only to then suddenly be able to say it when she wasnt even conscious and on the verge of death?
nerves in a relationship or love interest is shown by being awkward and blushing or talking too much like robin and vickie, not letting your gf sob as she lists off every time you’ve said “from” instead of love.
why do you think they paralleled these scenes and then have robin and vickie end in a way that implies that they will get together next season?
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dont tell me it’s just to show how sad will is, he wasnt even thinking about mike in that scene he was just happy to see his sister is alive.
and lastly, although i have SO many others that i could go on about,
why do you think they framed mike and will in the middle with the other couples and had el completely separated from them?
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we know that will’s going to be the main character next season so it would make sense for them to have WILL be the one in the front and mike and el together, but they kept mike with will. what do you think the reason for that choice was if not foreshadow?
im not even trying to be like “YOU MUST SHIP BYLER AND HERES WHY!!!” i literally wanna know how you interpret these scenes in a way thats not leaning towards byler.
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strawberrybyers · 2 years
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idk thinking about what the cast has said and all the details throughout stranger things, volume 2 doesn’t add up! idk something’s off. vecna gets to your head. he alters reality. maybe they’re portraying the events in a weird way because it’s not reality? like the 2 day time jump was really awkward. the cut to nancy, steve, and robin going through donation boxes was not the next scene i was expecting. it felt like something in the middle was missing. also, i don’t know if it’s because it had been 3+ hours of intensity and action, then it moved to a more solemn tone quite awkwardly and quickly, but when hopper and el reunited, i didn’t feel as emotionally moved by it the way i thought i would. the energy felt a little off to the point i was anticipating something bad to happen. i kept thinking “oh shit vecna is messing with el this isn’t actually hopper”, but no the scene kept going. we then see mike hug hopper. i’m sure mike does care and love hopper, so him hugging hopper isn’t my issue, it’s the fact he hugs hopper and we understand he’s hugging him because he’s been gone, but we know with will they’ve been separated too but he couldn’t hug will and yet don’t know why? this is the beginning of my villain origin story i stg.
and why did they make el and mike have this big “i love you” issue and have it be mike’s only conflict then the season ends and he says “they’ve barely talked to each other”? they never talk about anything ever lmao. that’s what i don’t get about their relationship. the season starts off with mike not being able to say he loves her, but then is able to when will tells him he’s the heart? why did he have to hear that from will? el was literally in tears, begging him to say “i love you” and he still couldn’t say it, but i’m supposed to believe they’re an endgame couple? 😂 i understand they’re 14/15 years old, but lumax is written really well! even suzie and dustin who have only had 4 minutes of screen time together make more sense. el and mike just barely have any development in regards to their relationship. mike doesn’t have any character development at all. they literally assassinated his character for no reason lol. also, el’s arc has been about her finding autonomy and i thought the way they’ve written her discovery to independence, finding family and loving herself was really good. i just feel like her storyline doesn’t fit in with mike. i’m sorry but there’s not much there in my opinion. we’re going into season 5 and they still feel like two people who barely know each other.
and since when can el bring people back to life? why did karen have her own poster if she had like 5 minutes or less of screen time? a poster is an advertisement for the show. the poster is giving a hint as to what will happen in the plot, but karen isn’t even involved in the main plot. she’s completely oblivious to everything lol. then noah said they’re building up byler, but in what way were they building it up? if anything they just brought it down. will and mike barely even feel like friends anymore. why are we going into season 5 still dealing with the nancy/jonathan/steve love triangle? then the parallels between will and henry/vecna/001 couldn’t have been coincidental, right? they both talk about not being able to fit in. they both have experience with the upside down. they even have will dressed like the child version of henry. will is one of the main characters who has an intense tie to the upside down and yet it hasn’t been fully explored for 2 seasons. why did vecna keep him alive? vecna never even mentions will. i’m just wondering in a very delusional way if there’s something else at play? could it be that volume 2 feels so chaotic and messy because it’s supposed to be? i have no idea anymore does anyone have any thoughts
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luighseach · 5 months
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My thoughts on Stranger Things Season 4:
[These are my opinions -obviously- and I don't mean to offend anyone with them.]
Is it my favourite season? Hell no!
Overall, how do I feel about it? Meh… It was entertaining but, yeah, meh…
Things that got me or that I thought were good:
Max's storyline. In general, I liked her storyline. I feel like in the past, while we got to see her quite a lot, it was never too deep. Like in s3, it was mostly about her and Lucas and having problems or whatever. So, with this storyline we got to see a deeper part of her character, and I enjoyed it. (There are things that I didn't like, but I will mention them later).
Max's almost death: it got me… I know I'm sensible right now (lots of things going on) so that might have played a part in it, but yeah, it was sad and it got me.
Eddie's death. I have refused to watch this season for two main reasons: 1) I was -and still am- pissed at s3 and Billy's ending; 2) I wasn't in a good mindset to watch sth like Stranger Things. The reason I decided to watch it was my curiosity about Eddie. I knew that people in general liked his character, and now that I'm no longer lurking in the harringrove fandom, I've seen how much the fandom loves him (to the point of shipping him with Steve, Billy, and the three of them together). So, yes, my curiosity was peaked. I knew about this fate, I've seen that spoiler, so it was really sad when he says in the first episode that 'this is my year.' However, for the first 5 episodes, I was just 'yeah, he's ok' but that's all. I think the actor did a great job at making him charming in a way, but that was about it. It wasn't until the latest episodes that I really grew to like him. And they definitely pulled at all the strings. Him saying to Dustin not to change, being playful, wanting to be a hero, etc. His death got me… I shed some tears… and it sucks that he died, but also that everyone thinks he is the worst.
Dustin's talk with Eddie's uncle… so sad, and it got me, lol
Jonathan's talk with Will. One thing that I've loved since s1 is the bond between the brothers. Love to see Jonathan in protective older brother mode. So, I loved this talk and their hug.
Robin and Steve continuing to be besties. They have one of my favourite friendship dynamics. So, yes.
Hopper and El's reunion. Could it have been better? Yes, but I still liked it.
Steve and Dustin being Steve and Dustin.
Things that I didn't like nor care about:
Hopper's storyline. It just dragged on for too long… way too long. Most of the time, I just wanted to skip it. I just didn't care. Even things that I objectively know were not bad, it just ended being like 'yeah, whatever'. Like, the reunion with Joyce, I was just 'finally, took long enough. Can we move on now?' And listen, I love Hopper and Joyce as single characters and as a couple, but this was just annoying.
Yuri.
Eleven's bullying. I get it, I understand why it was there, I get the parallel with what happened with 'Two' and the rest, but once again, I was just 'can we skip this? thank you.'
Similar to the point above, Jason's storyline. I understand, I get it. He was beyond traumatized and yes, I get it. But I just don't care. It was really just something to delay other storylines and to work as an obstacle.
Jonathan's storyline… or I should say: Jonathan's lack of storyline. They really didn't know what to do with him, huh?
Nancy and Steve. Just no, no! What were they thinking with that? Forget the fact that I ship harringrove… Nancy and Steve?!?!?!!? Fucking again?!?!? For what? Why? This is a completely unnecessary love triangle (I fucking hate love triangles) that's been going on since s1. Just stop! I refuse to believe that anybody would want or ship Steve and Nancy… I refuse!! Make it stop!!
Brenner and his constant attempts at keeping Eleven to himself. In general, every single obstacle that they wrote to delay the story was annoying as hell and most of the episodes could have been shorter if they had deleted unnecessary scenes and plot lines. Him 'arresting' Dr. Owens, putting the collar on Eleven and all that part was just too much.
Mike being the heart of the group. I don't know who is the heart… but it's not Mike, lol
Neil leaving town because he couldn't stand to be there without Billy. Yes, he was such a good father, and he was heartbroken about his son's death, who he loved *rolls eyes* Get out of here!!! He was upset that he no longer had him as his punching bag.
Having Max saying that Billy maybe did deserve to die an awful and extremely painful death. I just can't…
I feel like there were more things that I didn't like, but these are what it's coming to mind
Things that were just 'meh' (It's not that I didn't like, it was just 'yeah, fine, whatever'):
Argyle. I know that he is a fan favourite (sorry, sorry!), but for me, he was just there. He was more than anything a comic relief character, and while, yes, he had his funny moments, I'm just meh about him. Hopefully, if he appears next season, he will have more depth besides being high all the time lol
Vecna. I know, I know!!! But… he just came out of nowhere lol, and I might have missed it bc I'm stupid, but I still don't get how he got any powers or anything. And… I don't know… to suddenly have him being the reason for everything just seems… I don't know… Also, I totally imagined him singing the song from “WandaVision”: instead of Agatha, it's 'it was Vecna all along' lmfao
Will and Mike car scene. One of the things that I liked a lot about s1 and s2 was their friendship (I know that many people ship them, but here I'm really just talking about bromance). Mike was the most affected by Will being missing, when he thought he was dead, he literally ran to cry into his mother's arms. In s2, Mike was all the time with Will… I loved the scene with 'crazy together' and then Mike saying how glad he was that they were friends (paraphrasing) in the shed. I just love their friendship, but since s3 it has been left completely behind. And it's all about Mike and El… Mike's character has become all about El and I don't like it, lol
Nancy and Robin's friendship. While I do find them to have a good dynamic, it felt more as a reason to help along the Nancy and Steve's storyline, which I hated so… yeah.
And I think that's it… I will just add that I did like seeing Billy again, though it was painful!
I will probably have more thoughts as time passes but well...
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As promised here’s my long Brettsey post, because Chicago Fire pulled me back in despite my hesitancy. 
Okay, to start with, I’m probably somewhat delusional, but that didn’t feel like an open-ended storyline nor closure. It felt like an opening for either a recurring role for Jesse next season or a Kara exit. 
They had two chances to give Brettsey closure. At the end of season 10 at the Stellaride wedding and this last episode. Neither happened. Everyone was worried they’d have Matt say that he was happy for Sylvie in her new “serious relationship”. And that he was happy in Portland. Which was totally implied in the season 10 finale. Either they threw that in for the drama of it all or the writers now know something they didn’t know at the time. 
Thinking back to Jesse’s exit interviews and Haas talking about the long distance problems and obstacles, it feels like this was maybe somewhat planned out. Outside of the little things like Sylvie losing her phone for a bit in an episode and her and Matt not being able to catch each other at the right time, there weren’t very many obstacles for them in season 10. She went to visit him twice and only when she came back the second time did the problems start to show. Then they broke up in the season 11 premiere. And honestly what main Fire couple hasn’t broken up at least once for the drama? Brettsey’s was different because Jesse left right after they got together. Also, as the anon brought up earlier, Jesse even said he’d pop in once Sylvie got in a new relationship and look what happened, lmao. 
Now to the episode itself. Despite how sad the ending was, it gave me more hope than 10x05 did. Which, tbf, while I was more than happy they decided to try the long distance thing, I knew it’d be unlikely to be successful in the long run. They could have used this opportunity to give Brettsey real closure like Haas was trying to do in 9x15 for D@wsey. He just couldn’t get Monica back so he had to improvise by having Matt say he wasn’t in love with her anymore after the phone call. That they weren’t in love with each other anymore. Matt all but admitted he couldn’t move on because he was still in love with Sylvie to Stella.  That’s a big parallel to season 9 when he said being with other people makes it worse. He didn’t have that problem when he hooked up with the reporter after his divorce. Why go this route if there’s no plan to get them back together? I mean I know the Fire writers are cruel but they’re not stupid. Or that stupid anyway. And Sylvie? Poor Sylvie. I think they captured it perfectly. She thought she was moving on until she saw Matt again. Then after the hug? That was it. She knew she wasn’t over him. Showing her crying? Weirdly enough gave me hope. This is all leading somewhere because the easiest thing would have been to give them closure. 
This is leading to one of two things, I think. Matt coming back via a recurring role for Jesse. Which seems like the more likely scenario considering the other hints we got with Matt telling Boden that Chicago was home and that a few things had to fall in place to come back, etc. Plus Jesse talking about wanting to come back for appearances but not full time. They could easily have him in a handful of episodes and make it work. Second thing would be a Kara exit. Yes, they’ve written it as she didn’t want to leave for another guy and Chicago is her home. But Matt isn’t just a guy. He’s the love of her life (thank you Wolf Entertainment Twitter for admitting that) and she’s obviously not happy without him. They could have her expand paramedicine out to Portland and become a paramedic out there. She wouldn’t be giving up her career and life for someone else. She’d just be changing location. But this really does feel like more of a set up for a Matt comeback on a part time basis. 
Anyway, I’m preparing to be a clown about all of this. 
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v-i-r-i-d-i-a-n · 1 year
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The most unexplainable evidence of Byler if it’s not canon/meant to be perceived as a possibility in no specific order // proof you can bring up to ease people into Byler
“We’re friend. We’re friends.” - Classic love trope, person A telling person B they’re friends because they think their love in unrequited and/or telling others they’re ‘just friends’ when it’s obvious they’re something more
The Airport hug/shoulder pat thing - We know from interviews and promo that Mike canonically doesn’t know about Will’s feelings for him, so there’s no reason for that awkward side pat thing unless Mike is trying to physically distance himself from Will, and why would he be doing that??
The final scene of S4 where all of the couples we know and love are lined up with Byler, with El standing away - What was the reason for this if we’re not meant to question something
The multiple times they play into the ‘interruption trope’ the most obvious being both instances in S4 when they’re talking in Wills room - there is no reason for them to look longingly into each other’s eyes just to be interrupted by an outside force, that is also the second love trope Byler falls under
Will is canonically in love with Mike, and has been for a really long time, and it hasn’t been fully addressed until S4, why would they wait until the final battle, and have him be the main focus of S5 if it’s gonna amount to nothing - another thing, there’s no reason to “solve Mike and El’s problems” at the end of S4 when we still have an entire season of problems to work through
Who writes a slow burn rejection? - To go off my last point Will has been in love with Mike sense at least S2, who the hell writes a slow burn rejection story?
Why are do they parallel canon couples, as well as canon couples paralleling them? - if you aren’t aware of what I’m talking about (though if you’re on this tag I’m fairly certain you are) Byler was paralleled and been paralleled to ships like- Jancy, Jopper, and Lumax, in a lot of these parallels/heartfelt moments Byler did it first
Why does Mike look at Will like that in the van scene?? - He looks so enchanted and in love with Will here, what is the point of that?
The triple take in the dessert scene when they’re burying the body - a triple take is a more extreme form of a double take, a double take means ; a nonverbal communication in which a second look is taken at something with a marked physical reaction such as shock, astonishment, and amazement, in more simple terms it means, surprise or excitement, why is he so surprised Will’s looking at him that he has a psychical reaction to it??
From a story perspective, why would they make Will in love with Mike if it were to go nowhere ? That’s just poor story writing, and if we know anything the Duffers are good writers
Anyways you don’t have to believe in Byler but I’d love to see you explain these things :))
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matan4il · 2 years
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I just wanted to say that I love your blog! You seem like such a lovely person. I wanted to ask what is one thing you really want to see in season 6 of 911 and one thing you really don’t want to see in season 6?
Hi Nonnie! Oh, thank you SO MUCH. That is SO kind of you to say. I really do just want my little blog to be a nice, cozy place for anyone coming to it. I’m so glad if it is to you! *hugs endlessly* Thank you for letting me know, and just know that you’re lovely, too!
Oh, one thing I want to see in s6 is anything that makes the feelings of one of our guys for the other canon. Even if it’s not said explicitly, but anything where we can tell from a look, a lingering touch, that oh expression that lets us know one of them now realizes how they really feel about the other one. I fully expect that if 911 lets Buddie go canon, it will do so understanding that Buddie are a slow burn goldmine, so it will take its time with them. So I tend to think we’re not gonna get to the point of both of them expressing their feelings too soon. If both are finally aware of how they feel, it erases tension when it comes to the audience. Sure, Buddie won’t know that they both feel the same, but we will, so the only question for us would be when will they get together, not if. Which is a route the show might take, but the suspension is so much greater if only one of them is aware of how they feel at first, and silently pines away. It keeps the audience guessing and engaged... So yeah, I want us to get that little bit of canon that still doesn’t tell us whether Buddie, as a couple, are going canon, but it lets us know that the possibility is real.
One thing I really don’t want is any other love interest for either of them. Meaning, even if the show doesn’t go canon with Buddie just yet, I think Ana and Taylor were difficult relationships for us as viewers who love the characters to get through because the boys were so obviously miserable with them. And I think any other love interest brought in now would pale in comparison to Buddie anyway. So even if the guys don’t get together, I want them to get to be single and growing as people, and as friends / a family unit with Chris. I would normally think this would be impossible, ‘coz... A show which is quite invested in the emotional side of things for its characters, and only has two single main characters, why would it keep both single for a whole season? Yet, that’s exactly what 911 did during s3. And what golden material we got thanks to that! I’d rather have them single, then have to deal with the show feeling that it has to give them a love interest. I do think Buddie learned and grew from ending their relationships in s5 (and don’t get me started on how in s2 they both had a r/s ending not of their own choice and in s5 they both chose to end their r/s, the perfect parallels of their love lives is making my head spin), but having them hop into something new in s6 will feel, well. Probably even more forced than the relationships they just got out of. I feel like if 911 gives us another season of Buddie being single like in s3, that in itself will supply us with even more golden material as well!
I hope I managed to answer? Thank you so much, darling! Please never hesitate to reach out! *sends tons of love* xoxox
(If you're looking for my ask replies, here is my ask tag! xoxox)
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anguigenus · 2 years
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It’s criminal that so many people overlook the original Hexsquad — the crew included!Canonically, it doesn’t feel like Luz is even friends with Willow and Gus at this point. The narrative has shifted to focusing on Hunter, Luz, and Amity, while Willow and Gus are just shoved into easily fandomizable boxes with Hunter. I’m really disappointed that they didn’t even get one moment in S3 (so far).
Forgive me, but I'm going to be bitter here for a minute because I'm exhausted. If you're having fun with the owl house, go ahead and keep scrolling—this is more a personal vent than anything, I suppose—there's no need for you to be bogged down by my personal problems with the show.
Anyways.
They're never coming back.
I have fully given up at this point.
Gus will have a scene with Hunter about the grimwalker stuff and they'll be all brotherly and all awwww how sweet. The scene will be about Hunter. He might have a reunion scene with Matt that teases Gustholomule. He'll have an after credits scene where he's a human ambassador. (It'll be played for comedic relief somehow).
Him having a strong connection to the humans won't have any actual significance because Vee's the one that actually knows humans, Gus is some silly little boy.
Willow will have a couple scenes with Hunter to tie off the romance plotline that'll be all about how important Hunter is to her or something. She'll use her plant magic to grow the palisman seed so Hunter can grow a staff and it'll be so romantic and Evelyn parallels etc. This is because the pinnacle of her self-confidence arc is to use that strength to support Hunter.
Both of them will spend most of their time being comic relief or just another gun in a fight scene.
The only reason they had any attention in the first place was because Luz needed someone to have zany adventures with and Amity had to be distant at first for that sweet sweet enemies to lovers plot.
Why would they be written as important to Luz anyways? I mean, it's not like they're a love interest or The Main Character (Hunter).
Oh whoops, almost went on a tangent there where I started to convince myself this was intentional, that Luz is just isolating herself from them because she's so stressed. That they're actually going to mean something beyond a group hug set to moving music that Wow Pulls Luz From The Brink With The Power Of Friendship!
wouldn't want to make the mistake of giving myself hope for the uhhhh 20-something-th time.
Sorry, by the way, that I'm so bitter. It's just been building up for a couple of years.
Anyways.
The bright side is that the show doesn't have to matter so much.
AUs exist for a reason. Fix it fics, show re-writes, fics that focus on your favs or extrapolate as much depth as you want.
If I had the energy I'd certainly still be churning them out, because it's fun! I want to think about my most beloved blorbos and give them awesome stories! There's so much potential to dig at!
I'm still hoping I can put my disappointment aside sometime and get back to enjoying my own little content.
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softjakehoon · 3 years
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Can We Pretend?
Pairing: Idol Jay/Reader
Warnings: Smut. For 18+ only, minors dni.
Includes: Corruption kink, friends with benefits, protected sex, squirting, mild choking, slight biting, rough sex.
Authors note: I might edit this later. I apologize for any errors, I wrote this at 5 am instead of sleeping. Lmao.
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"Do you want me to stop?" He asked, in case you wanted to back down. 
You were watching a drama just a couple of minutes ago when he kissed you by surprise. You remember teasing him and questioning his innocence because of a scene in the drama where the main leads were hugging before having sex for the first time. 
Your brain stopped functioning for a while to remember how it all came to this. 
"Pft. Who the fuck hugs before having sex?" You almost choked on your drink out of laughter. 
"Why? Isn't that a normal thing for couples?" Jay asked you with innocence plastered on his face. 
"Are you being serious? You.. don't tell me you're still a virgin?" You were so shocked that you had to pause the drama you're both watching. 
"What's wrong with being a virgin? Also, you already know I haven't dated anyone in my life, why are you so shocked?" His lips pouting cutely as he argued.
"But that was 3 years ago, Jay. You're literally 21 now, you need to get laid." You teased him out of habit. A sting of pain suddenly grazing your heart at the thought of your best friend on someone else's bed.
"As if I have the time for that. Besides, I can't just hook up with anyone. I have a reputation to protect as an idol." He's right, you nodded in response. A sudden thought crossing your mind. 
"Wait a minute, how do you release tension then? Do you just get off by yourself or?" Your face inspecting his eyes closely for some hint. "Don't tell me you don't jack off either?" You were beyond shocked by his blank expression, showing no sign of guilt at all. 
"Holy shit, how do you even do that? You poor thing." You taunted him. 
"Enough, y/n. I'm fine, I have a lot of ways to release stress. Unless, you want to offer yourself to help." Jay knew he wasn't thinking straight when he said this but he maintained his cool and unbothered expression to see how you would react. 
"You want us to be fuck buddies, is that it? Fine, I'll help you." You weren't sure why you agreed without giving it a second thought. But you know deep inside you've been in love with Jay for 6 years already. For all those years, you tried so hard not to be overly affectionate and clingy to the boy you liked the most--in fear of him drifting away from you. You wanted to be someone constant in his life, someone he can go to whenever he needs someone to lean on. You wanted to be his soulmate. 
You've done a great job so far, but you're not sure anymore. How the hell are you going to manage pretending from now on? When you're overly sentimental and you tend to give meaning to every single thing he does. 
"What? How can you agree so fast?" He jokingly covered his mouth, pretending to be shocked. 
"What? Do you want me to take it back? It's not like this is my first time having sex anyway." You tried to act cool as much as possible, pretending that this setup isn't that much of a big deal at all. 
"Right. I'm not. But you're gonna be my first." You're almost sure he sounded hurt when he said that while looking deeply in your eyes. 
You couldn't resist it anymore. You wanted to be the one to erase his innocence but you were surprised when he kissed you first. 
You couldn't honestly tell if this is his first kiss or not because he's definitely good at it. 
You pulled away out of shock. You didn't expect him to be this good since you thought he's just gonna go for a quick peck. He looked confused at your reaction.
"Do you want me to stop?" He asked, in case you wanted to back down. 
"No. No, I was just shocked. I thought you were just gonna go with a quick peck, that's all." For some reason you can't look directly in his eyes. You're sure of it. If you do, you're gonna fall for him again, like you always do. 
"Well, we're not gonna go further with just a peck, right? Stop acting so shy, I thought you're gonna help me." He lifted your chin using his thumb, your eyes meeting in parallel. 
"You sure about this, Jay? I mean, I may get clingy after all of this. You know how sensitive I get. I tend to feel a lot of emotions." You warned him, followed by a fake laugh to ease the tension. You wanted to give him an idea of what could happen at least. 
"Then, don't. We're just using each other for sex, keep that in mind." You're aware he didn't mean to hurt you by this. He was just stating the obvious--drawing the line between the two of you for safety precaution. But this hurts, and you wanted him to take the pain all away, even just for a while. 
You kissed him roughly in frustration. He picked up your pace quickly, he really is a fast learner, you thought. And his lips, they're small and cute but they felt so damn good on yours. You grabbed his face, feeling every inch of his jawline, circling your fingertips on the mark on his neck. You looked deep into his eyes before gently sucking on it. He moaned at the contact, grabbing a fistful of your hair gently and pulling you back to a kiss. 
"Don't leave marks, y/n. I have a photoshoot tomorrow." He said, firmly. 
"Too bad. Wanted to fucking mark you as proof of getting your virginity taken." You chuckled. 
"Let me mark you instead, then. Proof that I let you take it." He whispered into your ear, biting into it gently, and kissing your neck while sucking on your skin up to your cleavage. 
You moaned from the sensation. You're already melting from his touch, you couldn't help but to rub your thighs together, wanting some kind of pleasure on your core as soon as possible. 
"Jay, I want your cock in me so bad." You whined, desperate to feel him inside of you. You palmed his cock inside his shorts, pulling it out. This is your first time seeing your best friend's dick and it was prettier than you imagined it would be. And you always thought he would be huge, but this doesn't even compare to the one in your dreams. The length, the girth, the tip of his cock, all red from arousal, leaking with precum already. Your mouth is watering from the sight. 
You couldn't help it. You dropped on your knees, eyes levelled to his crotch. You pumped his dick with your small hands, earning a gasp from him. You circled your tongue in his tip, gathering all the precum in it before fully deep throating him. He let out a growl this time, surprised by your sudden action. "Fuck, y/n. That's it, your mouth feels so good." You hummed in his dick, sending vibrations to his senses. You kept bobbing your head up and down, making sure to go as deep as you can, his tip hitting your throat making you slightly gag. You pulled it out for a moment to spit on it, and put it back inside your mouth, sucking him sloppily.
"Fuck, y/n. I'm close, keep going." Your jaw is starting to hurt a little, but you wanted to taste him so bad. You continued sucking him off while cupping his balls, massaging them gently. 
"Fuck, I'm cumming." He tried to get you off of him but you wrapped your arms around his thighs, pulling him closer. His cock, burying in your throat even deeper as he cummed. You looked up to him, eyes closed and mouth open from the pleasure. His head tilted back, and his hair slightly wet from sweat. The view of him from below caused a pool of wetness in your core. You milked him dry and swallowed his load without hesitation. 
"Shit, y/n. That's just.. insane. Come here, I wanna taste you too." He helped you get up, both of you smiling from ecstasy. 
You sat up on the couch, your thighs closed involuntarily trying to hide your arousal. "Can I?" He looked into your eyes, asking for permission if he could eat you out like a gentleman that he is. 
"Y-yes." You shyly answered. This is the first time someone is getting down on you after all. Your ex never liked foreplay and always went on ahead with penetration every single time that it hurts most of the time. Nervous of what's to come, you covered your face with your hands, not wanting him to see your state. 
"Let me see your pretty face, y/n. I wanna see how good I'm making you feel." He grabbed your wrist and placed your hand on his head, giving you something to hold on to while he flicks his tongue in your clit. He looked at you, your head tilted on the side, your mouth open releasing soft moans. He took the chance to put two fingers in your mouth, making you suck on them only to put them inside your cunt. He continued thrusting his fingers in and out while licking and sucking your bud, driving you insane from the pleasure, your arousal dripping down his chin generously. 
You grabbed his hair firmly as you focused on reaching your climax, clenching on his fingers. "Jay, I.. I'm gonna cum." You're almost out of breath at this point. 
He curled his fingers, hitting your g-spot several times that had you squirting around his digits. He eased you from your high, fucking your hole with his tongue and sucking on your juices. He looked up to you with lust all written in his face. His cheeks and chin, all wet and covered with your scent. 
"I always knew you'd taste good. Though I didn't know you're a squirter." He chuckled and sat on the couch. 
"Shut up. It's because it felt too good." You got up and climbed on his lap. He grabbed your ass to spread them and began kissing you again. The taste of his cum and yours both mixing in your mouth as you kiss him back. You began grinding at his erection, coating his length with your juices as he guided you by your waist. 
You're getting impatient at this point, wanting nothing more than to feel him inside you. You felt Jay searching for something in the corner of the couch, eventually bringing out a condom. 
"Why do you have that there?" You asked him, curious if he knew this would happen. 
"The boys left it here just in case. Didn't know I'd be the one to use it though." He tore the packaging and started rolling it down to the base of his cock. 
"You're such a good boy, aren't you?" You smiled at him.
"I don't think so." He whispered in your ear and bit your jaw, leaving a slight mark. You moaned a little bit louder this time. Surprised that it didn't hurt at all. "Aren't you such a pain slut? You're getting turned on by that? Huh?" His voice is so deep and velvety, making you clench your walls on nothing.
You started positioning yourself in his cock, slowly sinking down while biting your lip. He gasped from the unfamiliar sensation when he felt his tip enter you. You made sure to bottom all the way down, training your cunt to adjust to his size. 
"Shit. Move for me, baby. Be a good girl and ride my cock." He's holding you by your waist, pinning you down roughly. 
"Fuck, Jay. Your cock is so deep in me." You continued bouncing up and down, grinding back and forth on his cock from time to time whenever your legs would start to get tired.
Jay sensed that you’re starting to slow down so he started thrusting deep and sloppily into your core. You tried to meet his every thrust, biting your lips to keep yourself from screaming.
“Jay, I’m close.” He wrapped his right hand on your neck gently, while his left hand stayed at your waist. You're left at his mercy at this point. He’s in charge of the moment, giving you a smack on your ass as he growls from the intense pleasure.
“Cum for me, y/n.” With a couple of thrusts, you reached your orgasm, your walls convulsing around Jay’s cock that sent him to the edge as well.
He stayed inside you for a moment as both of you tried to catch your breath and then he pulled out after, discarding the condom in the trash bin.
He helped you get up and prepared a warm bath for you to enjoy. He knows that both of you just entered a complicated situation but he doesn’t regret it. As long as he’s with you, nothing else matters. 
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soysaucecas · 2 years
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MEGSTIEL (this is just to give you an excuse to talk about megstiel)
THANK YOUUU
i think ppl who hate this ship bc of meg’s actions in s1/2 are incredibly valid but other than that well.
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[ID: an edited 5-star google review that reads, “Do not believe any ratings that is less than 5. Its a ship with the most pleasant interactions. What’s the last star you’re holding off. Is it the scenes were too sexy, too fresh, the chemistry was spread too generously. Stop being jerks.” /end ID]
there is so very much to say about them but i’m gonna just make a bullet point list of my main thoughts right now
- the way cas’s rebellion from god and his father parallels the way meg is constantly looking for gods and fathers (through azazel, through lucifer) and then chooses tfw as well is sooo good and i wish they got to talk more about that
- this fanart always makes me scream and cry and perish. any post about them being girlbestfriends in s7 makes me scream and cry and perish. this is a time when cas feels soo lost and guilty and meg feels so directionless and they find meaning in each other! she’s a demon who kills other demons and an angel to save HER angel and it all happens in ONE episode! oh my god!
- the scene that initially got me into megstiel was seeing the gifset of him wrapping her wrist in 8.17 and the thing is. physical touch is so lacking in spn and cas very rarely gets to give physical comfort and meg very rarely receives it and also. cas has healing powers he could literally just zap her wrist back but instead he chooses to painstakingly wrap it in bandages while flirting with her about festering wounds like. oh my fucking god. and then there’s ALSO the chance that cas CAN’T heal her bc his grace would somehow Interact with meg’s demonhood which is also SUCHHH a sexy concept and couples so well with meg’s “i feel so... clean” after their makeout session in 6.10. the idea that something in their natures is fundamentally oppositional and yet they are making it work...
- on a similar note the fact that when cas sees her (as evidenced by his reaction as emmanuel in 7.17) he doesn’t see rachel miner (*twirls hair* *giggles*) but her true demon face? like i loveee meg but i am not going to try to say that rachel miner ISN’T a huge part of that so the fact that that isn’t even a Factor for cas speaks more to the strength of their connection. also i love the idea that meg can see hints of CAS’s trueform or even that looking at cas hurts her eyes like looking into the sun and yet SHE KEEPS DOING IT. sorry for getting obsessed with good omens a few years ago and subsequently being obsessed with demon/angel relationships forever. as if it’s my fault
- they’re literally nice to each other idk how to stress that more. they’re NICE to each other and she DIED FOR HIM
- i just think meg’s moral code of picking a cause and devoting herself to it is sooo... i LOVE the idea of characters without an internal moral compass still Choosing to be good. which is why i also love thinking about meg being soulless jack’s cool aunt through cas. i love meg lives aus in general regardless of megstiellification. god can you imagine if she was there during human cas
- meg being just like a dean who was never rescued from hell before demonification is such a good thing to think about. i love thinking about cas wishing he had saved her beforehand i love her wishing cas had saved her beforehand and then pushing that down
- megstiel heaven endgame is everythingggg to me. i KNOW in my heart that he meets her in the empty and that she absolutely propositions him to “make it loud” and he laughs and they hug and then jack gets them (and ruby and like. maybe p much everyone else) out of the empty and cas lives with her and kelly and jack as they restructure the afterlife and emotionally support each other i KNOW it
- did i mention they’re nice to each other and she died for him
Send me a ship and I’ll give you my (brutally) honest opinion on it
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korra-the-red-lion · 3 years
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Legends of Tomorrow and the Zarlie Incident: Is it happening again?
As many fans of DC’s Legends of Tomorrow are aware, during season 4 and 5 of the series, the ship “Zarlie”, a pairing of Zari Tomaz and Charlie, became quite popular during this time, especially during season 4.
Zari was a fan favourite character who was introduced in season 3. Throughout the season, Zari kept mostly to herself until she began to warm up to the others on the Waverider. Due to Zari’s closed off nature, she never had a LI in season 3. There were jokes about it, of course. Zari was very attractive to one Mr. Jonah Hex, and honestly. who wasn’t from the Waverider, haha? We’re told them as viewers that Zari is attracted to men. Sounds good.
Then s4 rolls around and Charlie gets introduced to the crew. Charlie takes an instant liking to Zari, affectionately calling her ‘Z.’ Maisie previously played Amaya on the previous two seasons, who was quite close with Zari as a friend, so it only makes sense that there is some chemistry between the two actors since they’ve been friends for awhile now. I wasn’t surprised when people starting shipping the two of them, thus the ship ‘Zarlie’ was born. What I wasn’t expecting was the writers to play into it. They had some pretty close scenes, and by close I mean there wasn’t enough room for two hands between their faces. And Zari made a comment about Charlie picking Amaya’s form because she was hot, implying that she thought Amaya was attractive. Thus the infamous scene happened:
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No denial from Zari, just her usual annoyed look she got whenever Charlie started picking at her. Thus, the Bi Zari headcannon was born and mostly accepted by everyone in the LoT fandom. Of course, with Avalance and I believe Constangreen at this time, many people doubted it would become canon. And unfortunately, shortly after, Nate and Zari began dating, which felt sudden to me personally, and Steelhacker was born.
However, Steelhacker canon did not stop Zarlie from continuing. If anything, the writers only added more fuel to the fire so fans could have discussions. This is where I started to get annoyed, because why continue to bait the pair if you have no intention of making it canon? It felt a little dirty to me, even as I enjoyed the banter and chemistry between the two of them. Oh well, I thought at the time, it’s just shipping for fun now.
Season 4 ends with Zari being replaced by Zari Tarazi, or Zari 2.0 if you will. People still shipped Zarlie, though it was mostly from Zari 1.0. Fans were a little put off when Charlie said she slept with Behrad, but it also called attention to the fact that Behrad technically replaced Zari from the original timeline, meaning that Charlie wanted sleep with Zari, yes? Very confusing, but in a weird way, it was almost like they canonized the ship further.
Maisie had been on record several times acknowledging the chemistry between the two, and how much she wished they could have explore that more. Then of course, the news of the filmed but deleted kiss broke out and everyone from the Zarlie fandom lost their mind. There was a kiss, so in some strange way, Zarlie is canon, but only behind the scenes. From a show that does have amazing queer characters and content came a strangely bizarre queerbait that is now semi-canon, but only because the news of the kiss came to light, otherwise it would be another ship lost at sea, dragging people down with it as it lured them with its content. That should be the end of it, right?
Wrong.
Season 6 came out this season with Astra, the villain being manipulated by the Fates in season 5, being elevated to main cast. Joining her was newcomer Esperanza “Spooner” Cruz. Some people were hesitant because Astra was a bit of a polarizing character in s5, with reason. And of course, with any new character coming in, people are worried on how they will fit into the show. However, Spooner easily became a character that people enjoyed, and she somehow grounded the show, due to her very emotional character arc.
Spooner and Astra didn’t interact much until the animated sequence, when Astra turned her into a fork, much to the fans delight. Spooner actually encouraged Astra and after that, the two slowly became friends. They could have some snarky yet fun back and forth conversations and remarks to another, and the two actors played off each other well. They also connected from their lost mothers, Spooner who thought her mother had been taken by aliens and Astra who lost her mother to hell. They had a sort of emotional vulnerability between them that only they could understand.
Then the bowling episode came out and I think this is when the ship really got rolling. There was the big hug at the end of the match were a much taller Astra scoops Spooner up off her feet into a massive bear hug, smiles between the two. I know this is when I became a solid Esperastra shipper.
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The pair continued to partner up after this. They partnered up again during the Clue-esc murder mystery game. Something that is very interesting about this is the pairings themselves. Ava gets killed by Sara right away (lol) and Nate dies shortly after, with Sara following behind. When Sara dies, her and Ava are shot together in a typical lovers pose in death. Makes sense, as they are engaged. Zari 2.0 is paired with Behrad and John, her brother and her lover respectively. Everyone is paired with someone they love. So...Astra and Spooner are paired up. Okay, no comment. JUST KIDDING. They die together, and this is shot in such a romantic way:
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I know it’s dark, my apologies. But Spooner is leaning on Astra, and Astra is falling on top of Spooner. I’ve watched and read a lot of stuff, and this is a typical lovers in death position as well. 
Then we get to the final two episodes which see Spooner and Astra pairing up again. Spooner leans on Astra for emotional support throughout these two episodes, because she knows that Astra understands what she’s going through. Astra was devested when she thought she lost both Spooner and John at the same time. Luckily, Spooner did come back and the two shared a very emotional hug.
Now, this is where it gets a little frustrating as a fan. The writers and showrunners have stated clearly that they are Just Friends(TM). It seems like, based on some decisions from this past season, the writers are pushing for Astra/Behrad, which is like, not terrible but a little strange. However, Tala Ashe (Zari), has been on record to say that she thinks the actors have great chemistry and she ships them. So there is clearly a small divide yet again. So, if season 7 leans into this any more, is Esperastra the new Zarlie?
Of course friends can love each other, hug one another, and use each other as emotional support. However in this case, there does seem to be some underlying tension between the two that I wonder if the writers are going to explore. Is Esperastra going to stay friends, or end up becoming yet another queerbaited sapphic couple from Legends of Tomorrow? I guess only time will give us an answer on this. However, I will say, the parallels between the two ships is slightly uncanny, and perhaps even intentional. Zarlie connected by being two people who felt lost without family, and Esperastra may be doing the same thing now that John is gone, who was functionally Astra’s only family left.
Let’s hope Legends of Tomorrow doesn’t do the same thing twice.
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literaryfic · 3 years
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Episode 11 breakdown
chayenzo has reached their bonnie & clyde peak in this episode and i’m living for it.
cha-young TORTURING and KILLING the three killers and vincenzo not holding her back
vincenzo letting her take the lead while ‘interrogating’ them... WHILE HOLDING HER COFFEE
at one point he looks worried when she ups the toxic smoke(?) flow (i think he doesn’t want her to lash out and regret what she did) but he doesn’t stop her.
he looks at her when they say they want to answer for their crimes in front of the law and she says “and who would that benefit?”
he’s letting her handle this all throughout the scene, and he’s seeing first hand what she’s capable of, what’s she comfortable with and how far she’s willing to go (which is all the way)
their dynamic has changed a lot from the previous episodes. they’ve truly become partners IN CRIME. (murder couple!!!!).
and as a good husband he tells her he’ll help her throw the people who killed her dad in the tiger’s cage when they’re done using them.
him telling her she belongs in the mafia!!!!!!!!!!! he fully recognised her as one of his own, someone who is capable of the same atrocities as he is and who he can rely on and trust as his equal.
her not reacting negatively when she finds out the extent of vincenzo’s mafia past / when shown the pictures of his killings. she even takes the picture of one of his murders out the prosecutor’s hand....
the HUG scene!!!!!!!!!!!! the chayenzo one, i should say. i think this is the most transparent vincenzo’s feelings have been made for cha-young and the audience to see (excluding the scene where he watches sleep).
first, he doesn’t want to stop drinking and uses the snacks as an excuse to continue drinking until 4 am. i think it’s important because so far vincenzo has done everything he’s said he would do. he does not lie or goes back on his words easily, EXCEPT WHEN CHA-YOUNG IS INVOLVED. the only time he does it for something else, it’s because he breaks the promise of not hurting others. although we’ve seen before how he lied about buying wine, it could just be because he was aware they were being followed and wanted to make sure nothing happened. but here, he clearly says they’ll only drink until 2 am, and when 3 am comes, HE’S THE ONE TO ASK HER TO DRINK UNTIL 4. he uses yet another excuse bc he doesn’t want to part ways with her yet.
then, she apologises for hugging him all of a sudden and he says there’s no need to say sorry, because she was worried. HE NOT ONLY DOESN’T MIND, HE’S TELLING HER IT’S A NORMAL REACTION. i truly think this says a lot bc all throughout the episode vincenzo is being hugged and he HATES it. he’s not a touchy person (except with cha-young ofc) and doesn’t like to be touched. but not only does he hug cha-young BACK, he’s saying she’s allowed to do that. They’re both testing their boundaries with each other.
also, when cha-young tells him she doesn’t know if her heart was beating bc of the situation or bc of her feelings for him, he looks like his own heart is beating really fast!! he swallows, looks away... vincenzo cassano, the mafia consigliere with no fear, is NERVOUS bc of hong cha-young 😭
finally, the HUG. when she says she’s testing to see if she has feelings for him, he smiles bc he finds her cute and he says he won’t move BC HE WANTS HER TO HUG HIM. he smiles as she’s hugging him bc he likes it UNTIL she hugs him harder and he feels nervous again (like he doesn’t want her to hear his fast heartbeat hahaha.) and his holding the chair bc he wants to hug her but he’s holding himself back. and then they look at each other and i just know he doesn’t know what to do hahaha.
meanwhile, cha-young looks at him intensely and i can just TELL that when she says “ah, i was wrong, it was because it was a dangerous situation” she’s LYING YOUR HONOR. she has the softest expression on her face, she’s definitely deeply in love with him lol.
then when she goes back to lie down, vincenzo literally doesn’t know what to do with himself. you can see he’s almost distraught!!! and the way he looks and smiles at her really softly just proves he knows she’s lying as well lol.
i think it’s interesting how the background music from chayenzo’s hug scene introduces his scene with his mom
in this episode vincenzo truly deepens his roots in South Korea, first with cha-young, then his mom, and finally the tenants
it’s also super symbolic that he picks up a thread and gives it back to her haha. it means that instead of serving their relationship, he’s ready to come back to her. he’s healing from the scar of being abandoned and he’s forgiving her.
also am i the only one who thinks the mom lowkey suspects/knows he’s her son? i really can’t tell if she can tell or not....
CHA-YOUNG BEING JEALOUS OF MIRI/POSSESSIVE OF VINCENZO IS SOMETHING I DIDN’T I NEEDED. the way she pushes her chair and hides her face hahahaha... and then she holds his arm!!!!!!
cha-young also puts her hand on his shoulder a lot this episode. they’re so naturally touchy with each other, and the contrast between how vincenzo handles physical touch from literally anyone but cha-young makes it even more domestic 😭
ALSO, vincenzo asking cha-young to come with him when he’s arrested... the parallels between him saying ‘let’s go, lawyer-nim’ when he protects her and ‘come with me, lawyer-nim’ when he’s in trouble...... PARTNERS IN CRIME
the tenants being not only understanding of his past, but PROUD and IMPRESSED???? they respect him much more now than before 😭
the whole Mr. An scene was soooo cool and satisfying!!!!!!
today’s episode was just ‘everyone wants to fuck vincenzo because he’s hot’ and where is the lie???
the tenants throwing him A LITERAL PARADE when he’s back. CHA-YOUNG ASKING IF IT’S A WEDDING HALL WHILE RESTING HER HAND ON HIS SHOULDER AND EVERYONE THROWING CONFETTI AT THEM????? they’re married in canon idc
she even tells him “with all the support that you have, why don’t you make your own family here?” YOU TELL HIM, HE CAN JUST SETTLE HERE WITH THE GEUMGA GANG BC THEY HAVE HIS BACK AND STAY WITH YOU
the tenants telling him about the gold was so funny... hopefully V finds a way to get the gold and they all divide the money equally or something
now the scene where he tortures the arms dealer..... THIS IS THE HOTTEST SCENE IN THE DRAMA IDC IDC IDC
playing the Russian Roulette himself and not blinking an eye i’m— “there’s no limit to fear” your honor i know he murdered countless people but have you seen him at work???? who wouldn’t forgive him
I’m so glad we’re getting darker!vincenzo... i want to see the ruthless consigliere everyone fears !!!! more vengeance and murder everyone !!!!
i’m thankful they didn’t drag on the “who’s babo” story line bc that would’ve been frustrating. when vincenzo called cha-young and told her who junwoo was WHILE SHE WAS WITH HIM!! AND SHE ACTED SO PERFECTLY!!!
also she didn’t doubt vincenzo for a second and she straight up asks him if he’ll stick to the plan (of killing him) without a beat
this episode just showed that everyone in this show is a morally grey villain and i don’t think they’re going to be like ‘the main couple went to jail for a few years to pay for their crimes and then lived happily ever after’. if we follow that logic everyone has to go to jail for something loool. i want them to win with no consequences, get away with everything they did and destroy Babel, idc!!!!!!
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